You DON'T Need an E6B Flight Computer (PPL Lesson 48)

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  • Make all your flight calculations WITHOUT a flight computer! This video explains how to make all the calculations you might need in flight without dragging out the E6B! This is Private Pilot Ground lesson 48! This training is intended to follow the aeronautical knowledge areas in Part 61.105 section b for single engine aircraft.
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Комментарии • 127

  • @aliptera
    @aliptera 2 года назад +24

    6 minutes is 0.1h. Flying at X kts means X/10 nm every 6 minutes. Any time/distance/speed calculation you can approximate using 6 min "chunks" without any calculator with sufficient practical precision. Also distance covered in 10min=X/6 nm, in 15min=X/4 nm, in 20min=X/3 nm, and obviously in 30min =X/2 nm

  • @kaikitree
    @kaikitree 7 месяцев назад

    Seriously, everything about these videos - they just get better. The perfectly rad music, the visuals, your calm and clear voice. Thank you, thank you. My dad's a retired captain for United Airlines, my bro's a certified instructor with a Cessna and because of your videos, this single lady artist can learn all I need and carry on the family legacy without digging deeper into debt. You rock more than words can say - life changing. Thank you to you and Mike! Ya probably don't need it, but feel free to quote me and would love to check out your app when it happens. -Molly M.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you so much! Hopefully I can start working on an app very soon! I also hope to remake some of my earlier videos!

  • @Ali-fx6qp
    @Ali-fx6qp Год назад +2

    Bro, I just want to shake your hand 🤝🏼 amazing! Thank you for all of this 👍🏼

  • @julien129
    @julien129 Месяц назад

    In France when I learned to fly we were not allowed any form of calculator. We would use a similar technic to determine cross wind correction quickly. If my airspeed was @100kts, we would write down on our nav log the 100/60 = 0,6 (Fb for base factor). And from there estimate the max drift (Dm) which is Fb x wind speed. For instance if wind speed is 30kts, Dm = 0,6 x 30 = 18 degree. And divide in 3 sectors. Full cross wind would be 18 degree correction, a 2/3 cross wind would be 12 degree, a 1/3 cross wind would be around 6 degree. The method is not perfect mathematically and does not give you the perfect answer but combined with good pilotage it worked pretty well!

  • @Arturo-lapaz
    @Arturo-lapaz Год назад +1

    20:40 easy calculation of true airspeed
    As a CFII since the late 60's , I have taught this method:
    1) the true airspeed is the product of the CAS, approximated by the indicated airspeed times the RDR.
    RDR ?
    This is the root density ratio:
    Square root of (sealevel density divided by the density at the indicated flight altitude). This RDR is so simple that it is easy to memorize:
    altitude (ASL) RDR temperature
    0 1.00 15 C
    3000 ft 1.05 9 C
    6000 ft 1.10 3 C
    9000 ft 1.15 -3 C
    12000 ft 1.200 -9 C
    15000 ft 1.26 -15 C
    18000ft 1.33 -21 C
    This is accurate as long as Your rule of the temperature outside is applicable:
    third column. When the outside temperature differs , then a correction can be used :
    by example
    at 12000 feet instead of -9 C say the OAT is +6 C, a difference of + 15°
    15 divided by 264, ( -9C in °Kelvin) is approximately 5.6% .
    Then the calculated TAS, incremented by
    ½ 5.6% = 2.8% is the accurate TAS, as you can verify on your computer.
    As you can verify all other factors on the table.
    Any error is due to the difference of indicated to calibrated airspeed.
    This is an accurate method that makes the calculation of density altitude for True airspeed unnecessary.
    It is based on exact computation of the density for the ISA .
    Used for the design of the scales on the flight computer directly.

  • @Herk_Derp_20
    @Herk_Derp_20 2 года назад +1

    Love the river tour!

  • @bodake2557
    @bodake2557 Год назад +1

    Holy crap! thank you, High res and well produced! thank you so much this was really pissing me off trying to figure out. Army proof...nice

  • @NiekLapidaire
    @NiekLapidaire 6 месяцев назад

    There is also a basic trigonometry way to determine wca and gs as well. With help of the sinus rule we can determine all sides and angles of a triangle if we know 2 sides and 1 angle. TAS/sin(windangle) = WS / sin (wca) where TAS Is true airspeed, windangle is the angle between true course and winddirection, WS is windspeed and wca is wind correction or drift angle. If wca is known the 3rd angle of the triangle is known because 180 - WA - wca = 3rd angle. And with that we can also calculate the GS (eg third side) by same sinus rule.

  • @JuanPabloParraMartinez
    @JuanPabloParraMartinez 4 месяца назад

    Simply use T(time) = D(distance)/V(velocity) formula.

  • @miked2662
    @miked2662 3 месяца назад

    Really bagging on us Army Aviation vets lol
    Great video man!

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  3 месяца назад

      😆 sorry, can’t help myself! Just a friendly rivalry! Thanks!

  • @libertycowboy2495
    @libertycowboy2495 2 года назад

    Retired Army guy here. Thanks for the rides AF! 😆

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  2 года назад

      😆you’re welcome! Sorry our air conditioning isn’t the greatest back there. 😂

  • @Jerry10939
    @Jerry10939 10 месяцев назад

    Wind correction the way you are doing it is called set and drift. It’s pretty much the same for boating. It’s how I do it. But I note how far off course I have sailed or flown in a certain amount of time. Note where I am off course, mark it. Then I draw a line from where I calculated from where I should have been to where I am . Note the distance. As set is the direction off your vector, and drift is distance and time. Now you can set up for an intercept of your old course or draw a new line to your destination and adjust your heading from there.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  10 месяцев назад +1

      I didn’t know that. Thanks for the comment!

  • @PghGameFix
    @PghGameFix 2 года назад

    another good video. Thanks for that. I'm talking a short flight today, and I will keep this all in mind.

  • @Jerry10939
    @Jerry10939 10 месяцев назад

    Interesting video and informative. I always want a backup to whatever system I am using. Analog to my digital electronic navigation. I actually prefer paper charts, my E6B and plotting , dead reckoning and pilotage to my GPS. But if any system fails have a backup, even if it is doing calculations in my head.

  • @Ребятамозверятах-э1м

    Там где ты делаешь 2 действия, E6B справляется за одно. При этом я вижу сразу все возможные варианты ответа при любом изменении вводных данных. Я пожалуй оставлю E6b

  • @thomasyuhas
    @thomasyuhas 2 года назад +2

    Hey Josh-- great video! I have come across another formula to determine Density Altitude. I think I found this on a web site about the affect of Density Altitude on ballistic bullets for those long range targets.
    The formula does not involve calculating ISA Temp. just need Outside temp in Celsius.
    1.24(PA) + 118.8(OAT) -1782 = DA
    PA= Pressure Alt.
    OAT= Outside Air Temp in Celsius
    DA= Density Alt
    You can easily calculate PA by the following:
    PA= (29.92-Baro)X1000 + Field Elevation
    Just watch that you have a negative number if current Barometric Pressure is greater than standard .

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  2 года назад

      Thanks Tom! That’s awesome! That’s much easier than the one I found. Thank you!

  • @CaptainCobra22V
    @CaptainCobra22V Год назад

    Thank you very very very much 🙏, you saved 💰 🙏

  • @duck8641
    @duck8641 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for sharing. Great video.
    Just one more question. Assuming inoperative GPS and calculating for a diversion how can you tell the NM travelled in a minute to find the GS? I cannot think of a way without the GPS and no planned checkpoint as well since it is going to be a diversion.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks! If you have a VFR sectional, you can use 1 minute of latitude. 1 minute = 1 NM.

  • @lesliecruz9559
    @lesliecruz9559 Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @izzat003
    @izzat003 2 года назад

    im used to CRP5, so actually for me personally its quicker to be using crp5 because im familiar with it.
    heard its expensive at europe and USA but at malaysia its super cheap. but now im using the crp5 apps instead of the physical one

  • @malakov5
    @malakov5 2 года назад +3

    All of these methods are nice during planning phase for sure. Question is: will my DPE blast me for whipping out my phone or calculator to do some of these conversions or will they prefer e6b? Personally e6b is close enough and fast enough that I’d prefer it unless the mental math is nice and round… maybe it’s just me

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  2 года назад +1

      It really depends on the DPE, but it won’t be any different than pulling out an electronic flight computer. Mental math is definitely the way to go after you get the license. It takes a little more practice, but it’s a very handy skill in the plane

  • @Nhawthorne9274
    @Nhawthorne9274 2 года назад +9

    You can use a calculator to figure crosswind and headwind components using Sin and Cos functions as well. Personally I think it is quicker.

    • @Nhawthorne9274
      @Nhawthorne9274 2 года назад +4

      Wind direction-runway heading to give you the angle difference. Take that number and press the “Sin” button and then multiply by the windspeed. Negative number is left crosswind and positive number will give you a right crosswind. (180wind direction- 140 runway heading)= (40)Sin = .6427* 20 knot windspeed = 13 knot right crosswind* rounded up.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  2 года назад +2

      Great tip! Thank you!

    • @Nhawthorne9274
      @Nhawthorne9274 2 года назад +1

      @@FreePilotTraining no problem! Thank you for all the great videos you do!

    • @freepilot7732
      @freepilot7732 Год назад +2

      I created an excel sheet with advanced formulas to figure the WCA and all other answers. All I have to do is plug in the factual numbers ie, wind and speed, TC Fuel burn. I can keep going.

    • @Nhawthorne9274
      @Nhawthorne9274 Год назад +1

      @@freepilot7732 That id awesome! Excel is an amazing thing if you know how to use it!

  • @NiekLapidaire
    @NiekLapidaire 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for your great video but should the ISA temperature not be 15 - 1.732/1.000x2 = 11.536 C ?

  • @carolinewynton-rhodes3810
    @carolinewynton-rhodes3810 2 года назад +1

    Pilot nav is perfect in flight. ln fact l expect my students to use mental arithmetic. Unfortunately today, those entering aviation have little mental arithmetic ability due to reliance on electronic devices. These electronic devices are fine until the the batteries go flat. Then they are in trouble.

  • @mikecoffee100
    @mikecoffee100 Год назад

    But I like my E6B Computer however this was a very very Informative video

  • @abeeconstable7877
    @abeeconstable7877 2 года назад +1

    Great videos but could you look into your audio setup please? Your sound level is very low, so low that we need to turn up the volume to hear you and then when an ad comes in, it's blaring.
    Could you also double check your music overlay volume is lower than your voice? need to rewind to make out what your saying.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  2 года назад

      I’m really sorry about that. I’m not sure why that’s happening. I’ve turned the sound up to keep that from happening, but it keeps doing it for some reason

    • @earlpener
      @earlpener 2 года назад

      I'm finding this as well.

    • @abeeconstable7877
      @abeeconstable7877 2 года назад +1

      @@FreePilotTraining Maybe it's Google doing it? They seem to like mucking up stuff.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  2 года назад

      @@abeeconstable7877 in my next video, I’m going to try turning my sound way up and making it really loud. I’m hoping that will fix the problem

    • @astorp12345
      @astorp12345 2 года назад

      I am getting plenty of volume. I suspect because the audio is lacking low end it might not be coming through for some. Just thought I would chime in with what I am hearing.

  • @brianberezowski5352
    @brianberezowski5352 2 года назад +1

    ANOTHER AWESOME video. LOVE the content, your explanations make it easy to follow. Now ... I gotta PRACTICE.
    Really looking forward to your next video .. x-country and pilotedge.
    THANK YOU CYQT 👍🇨🇦👍

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  2 года назад

      Thanks Brian! I’m looking forward to making that one. It’s going to be fun!

  • @rv-ation9603
    @rv-ation9603 Год назад

    It's not illegal to land an aircraft with less than 30 minute reserves onboard (Part 91-VFR NOTE: IFR wording makes it a bit more legally "sticky"). The regs only govern the flight planning portion. That being said, I'm not advocating running to empty and not trying to start a conversation about what's smart and what's not, just pointing out a common piece of mis-information. Cheers!

  • @TigerTrussell
    @TigerTrussell Год назад

    I think at 19:49 the interpolation is wrong; you say 12.3 C which I believe is at 1,372 instead of 1,732; temp should be ~11.536 C. Right?

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  Год назад +1

      Yes, there’s a mistake there. I interpolated in the wrong direction

    • @TigerTrussell
      @TigerTrussell Год назад

      @@FreePilotTraining Sorry not trying to nitpick, just following along and making sure I understand. Love your channel, thank you!

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  Год назад

      @@TigerTrussell nope. I appreciate comments like this. I do my best to fix errors. It’s going to be a while before I get to this one. I think it’s still helping students, so the video stays up

  • @tracer0017
    @tracer0017 10 месяцев назад

    Are we supposed to do this kind of Math in our heads? I cant divide 10 by 60 and get 1.833 for example LOL . So for me the E6B is just easier. Most of the examples were just complex. divide these 2 numbers then multiply by this number which of course included fractions. Or am I missing something?

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  10 месяцев назад

      No. In many situations you can use a normal calculator and find an answer more quickly than with a flight computer, PLUS this method allows you to estimate very quickly with no calculator. Say 10 divided by 60= Estimate 2 your estimations will be very close

  • @bobason456
    @bobason456 Год назад

    Who can divide 130 by 1.83 in their head? best to keep that flight computer handy.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  Год назад +1

      lol, I know of a few people actually. But, the point of this is that you can get fast and precise answers with a calculator just as easily as a flight computer where you have to round, OR you can round before you calculate and turn 1.83 into 2 and estimate 65 before you even pull your flight computer out of your bag.

    • @frankmuller73
      @frankmuller73 11 месяцев назад

      correct , i rather use e6b

  • @diegoramirez8674
    @diegoramirez8674 2 года назад

    You don’t need fuel😎

  • @mojo7618
    @mojo7618 2 года назад

    Thanks!

  • @nicjansen230
    @nicjansen230 2 года назад +2

    I think it's easier to look for pattens. For example: 7.5 gallons in 45 minutes, how many gallons per hour? 45 minutes is 3/4 of an hour, 7.5 is 3/4 of 10, so 10 gallons per hour. This gives indications If you can't completely figure it out in a few seconds, and you can verify it using a calculator
    In complicated engineering problems, you often use a computer to figure it out by simulating or doing a few steps or so, but you should be aware of what kind of number you should expect, so that's when I use this kind of estimation

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the tip! I actually do this too, I just didn’t realize it until you said it. Lol

  • @freepilot7732
    @freepilot7732 Год назад +1

    I must be mistaken all these years.
    Now mind you, I'm not arguing safety, merely legality.
    You can't land with less than your reserve of fuel? I thought you can't take off with the calculated needed fuel plus the reserve.
    Using some of your reserve is not illegal.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  Год назад +1

      That’s the way I read it, but I suppose you could look at it another way. It says you can’t “begin a flight unless there is enough fuel” § 91.151 Fuel requirements for flight in VFR conditions.
      (a) No person may begin a flight in an airplane under VFR conditions unless (considering wind and forecast weather conditions) there is enough fuel to fly to the first point of intended landing and, assuming normal cruising speed -
      (1) During the day, to fly after that for at least 30 minutes; or
      (2) At night, to fly after that for at least 45 minutes.

    • @freepilot7732
      @freepilot7732 Год назад

      @@FreePilotTraining that's what I meant. You can't begin a flight less than enough fuel to the (destination) plus reserve. You don't have to maintain the reserve in your tanks when landing. Though I agree with the concept not to push it. If I know I'm going to burn 1/2 of my reserve when I arrive (calculated) , I will make a pit stop. Though to be honest I've never flown that close. I manage my fuel much better to put myself in that situation. Happy flying.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  Год назад +3

      @@freepilot7732 Agreed. It’s just funny cuz the FAA is going to interpret it however they want if you run out of fuel though. Lol

  • @vanseelife493
    @vanseelife493 Год назад +1

    I don't think your ISA temp. for the calculating density altitude problem (19:40 mark) is correct. It's a linear variation with altitude, a 1,732 foot elevation is much closer to 2, 000 feet, than 1,000 feet, so your ISA temp. should be much closer to 11 degrees C, than 13 degrees C. Using the ISA temp. calculation formula you get 11.5 degrees C. Which matches eyeballing where it should be.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  Год назад +1

      Yep. You’re right. I messed that up. It should be around 11.5. Good catch

  • @julietphillips1991
    @julietphillips1991 2 года назад +1

    My head hurts. DIY MAN is so much easier! There is math there too, but knot like this! True altitude does not lie?!

  • @dkoz8321
    @dkoz8321 Год назад +1

    Small private planes need to be as easy to operate as passenger cars. Get in and go. With onboard computers making flightplans and managing fuel and systems. In an unsafe condition , such as insufficient fuel, the computer would let you know to land and reccomend where. Right now this is far too complex, risky, error prone for general aviation to grow.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  Год назад +1

      Yeah, it’d be nice if they were, but it does kinda make you feel a little more special being a pilot

    • @ericmeekey7886
      @ericmeekey7886 Год назад +1

      I think GA planes are more comparable to motorcycles than passenger cars. It's best to ride them in good weather, they require special handling skills to operate safely, and their lack of protection from mishap demands a high situational awareness for practical travel from one place to another.

    • @dkoz8321
      @dkoz8321 Год назад +1

      @@ericmeekey7886 Sorry. But no. Bikes and planes have no comparison. Aside that both are modes of transport. People ride in all sorts of weather, including effing freezing. No plans need to be made or loads computed.
      Boating and charter yachting is closer. Where planning, navigation, chart reading, weather, sea state, loading has real life and death consequences. Which is why masters licenses are required by Coast Guard.

    • @dkoz8321
      @dkoz8321 Год назад

      @@FreePilotTraining Screw special! You special people make mistakes that kill you and passengers. JFK JR. lost daylight due to time, horizon due to sea ,and moonlight due to clouds. Then spun himself and his two girlfriends into sea off Nantucket Is.
      20 year old hot singer Alyia , her musicians, and stage crew , along with flight crew of Gulfstream. crashed and burned on takeoff . Why? Becouse flight crew made errors in weight and balance of their Gulfstream . Resulting in heavy aircraft with CG out of envelope , so aircraft could not get and stay airborne. Ran out of runway and luck.
      First example could be avoided with synthetic vision projecting artificial horizon, ground , and artificial nightsky onto cockpit glass.
      Second could be avoided with weight sensors on landing gear and throughout fuselage to warn of hazardous weight and balance condition.
      Automatic download of weather report and GPS aided flight plan preview would alert crew of insufficient fuel for automatically computed flight time.

    • @ericmeekey7886
      @ericmeekey7886 Год назад

      @dkoz8321 It depends on scale. Part 103 ultralight flying has little/no regulation beyond what the pilot can put up with from the atmosphere. Sport pilots can do a lot without needing a towered airfield or climbing to high altitude. I imagine water is still harder to regulate strictly than airspace in most parts of the world, though--there's still piracy and illicit resource extraction using exploited labor going on, for example.
      But nothing will ever beat the convenience of being a passenger in all modes of transit. It's easy to forget all the liabilities with just driving a car 'cross town that many people in big cities would rather not deal with.

  • @NiekLapidaire
    @NiekLapidaire 6 месяцев назад

    Oeps sorry, you already answered this questions.

  • @jakehowe8676
    @jakehowe8676 7 месяцев назад

    Is it possible to use a normal ruler and protractor on a piece of paper for wind calculations if we don't have a plotter?

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  7 месяцев назад

      Yes. It is possible. It’s more difficult though and you’d have to use some kind of scale.

  • @Andreas-nh3cs
    @Andreas-nh3cs 2 года назад +1

    It's very useful video for me because I am not a pilot, yet )

  • @PaulPilot-ke1if
    @PaulPilot-ke1if 3 месяца назад

    E6-B is still a good foundation when first learning in the classroom. . Then ditch it for electronic and even rule of thumb.

  • @xaangagale4486
    @xaangagale4486 2 года назад +1

    Useful video I wish I knew this channel months ago

  • @informalfallacies
    @informalfallacies Год назад

    Maybe a nitpick, but want to ensure my math isn't whack. For the formula at 19:50, to find standard temp at altitude of 1732, I should subtract 3.464 from 15 to get 11.536. But you have 12.3. It's 2 degrees per 1k, and we have 1.732k, right?

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  Год назад +1

      You are correct. Somehow I got mixed up in that one

    • @informalfallacies
      @informalfallacies Год назад

      @@FreePilotTraining Thanks, man. Appreciate you responding to every question. Best free pilot lessons online. Wish you were in my area because I'm ready to start. The big flight schools in Indiana have tons of unnecessary overhead. :(

  • @informalfallacies
    @informalfallacies Год назад

    I never thought I'd prefer the whiz wheel for anything until now.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  Год назад

      Yeah, the whiz wheel is great, but this is nice for getting precise numbers

  • @tylerguerrero6978
    @tylerguerrero6978 Год назад

    Correction. You are required to know how to calculate density altitude. Source my instructor

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  Год назад

      You’re not wrong! 😂

    • @tylerguerrero6978
      @tylerguerrero6978 Год назад

      @@FreePilotTraining should probably take that part out or add a *note 🤷🏽‍♂️
      If a DPE asks you how and you say “I don’t know” you fail.

    • @motogirlz101
      @motogirlz101 Год назад +2

      @@tylerguerrero6978 So if you don't know the answer on your checkride, is it better to give a wrong answer than to say, "I don't know." I know you're supposed to say, "Let me look that up," but what if you can't find it?

  • @ryanlive819
    @ryanlive819 8 месяцев назад

    This was a great video! Thanks!

  • @tomstrickland4353
    @tomstrickland4353 2 года назад

    where are the links

  • @lesliecruz9559
    @lesliecruz9559 Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @PickleRickSanchez
    @PickleRickSanchez 2 года назад

    Real talk, is it worth it to just buy the e6b?

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  2 года назад +1

      It’s worth it. I’m just making a point that you don’t need one the military doesn’t give them to their pilots for this very reason

    • @rinzler9775
      @rinzler9775 2 года назад

      Its always good as a mental double check as well.

    • @dallasC822
      @dallasC822 2 года назад +1

      It’s nice to have both. I bought a flight computer and a E6B. I’ve used both. I prefer the flight computer because it’s a faster and can compute multiple metrics with the same base information that you feed it.
      Essentially it’s plug and play. The E6B does the same but in a analog fashion. Both e6b and flight computer have a learning curve but in my opinion the flight computer on the written tests and on the flight deck is the way to go. There’s something to be said however to analog in the case your computer has run out of batteries.

    • @carolinewynton-rhodes3810
      @carolinewynton-rhodes3810 2 года назад +1

      @@dallasC822 i won't allow my students to use any device other than mental arithmetic. However, I'm not that cruel, if they're struggling, l put them out of their misery where they can use a device to resolve the problem.....then back to mental agility

  • @PickleRickSanchez
    @PickleRickSanchez 2 года назад

    Wtf lol

  • @columbiabuzz
    @columbiabuzz 11 месяцев назад

    Hmm, congratulations you've discovered 6th grade unit analysis, now you can put those 2nd grade math skills to use. If you need to explain this to someone who is flying or wants to fly, do it in airspaces far away from me.

    • @FreePilotTraining
      @FreePilotTraining  11 месяцев назад +2

      I don’t mind negative comments, but this one is super annoying. Not everyone remembers these skills from the 6th grade. Many people who go out and work actual jobs don’t use these basic skills and they go away very quickly. This is why no one can spell anymore. Everyone relies on their phone to wipe their butt for them. For those of us who have had real jobs and worked our way into this the hard way, this information is extremely valuable. Re-learning the 60:1 rule doesn’t mean these people are going to be dangerous pilots