Left out the use of the VSI VERY IMPORTANT and use of Trim. It's ok to use and will help you. So where is the instrument that gives 1.414 Gs. Learn toss that and scan interpret scan interpret scan interpret and use smooth inputs. In over 45 yrs of flying and years of teaching I don't know any pilots who are doing 45 degree turns with passengers on most flights. You need to know how to do them safely and that takes practice. Be safe
Excellent instruction as usual. During my training I had a hard time with steep turns because I was too focused on the instruments. At one point I told my instructor to be ready to intervene if something looks wrong and then I ONLY looked outside, trying to keep the point where the horizon disappears behind the dashboard stabilised. That was my first smooth steep turn and I didn't even lose or gain altitude. Now I mostly look outside and occasionally glance at the VSI and it works every time.
I was taught to do that, but never really understood what it was doing to the aircraft this makes perfect sense, and the illustration with flying that T makes it even easier to understand. Thanks.
Nice video. One hint that I was taught is see where the horizon intersects with the instrument panel. If you keep the horizon at the same intersection, you will maintain altitude and ergo, airspeed
Working on my private pilot license and I have been struggling as I transition to the the second turn. My first steep turn is generally stable and coordinated. When I roll into the second turn I fall behind the airplane and tend to lose altitude. I am going up today to practice and I am going to try these tips. Doing some chair flying to practice before my flight. Will let you know how it goes. Thanks for the tips. Your channel is great and your training videos are the best ones for me. You make the concepts simple and easy to understand and you don't waste time with irrelevant jibber jabber. Thanks for being an awesome instructor and for making this training available to a guy on a budget!
@@FreePilotTraining I am happy to say it went much better today. My first attempt was my best. I used my ailerons and bank to control my altitude. On my second attempt I over banked to 60 degrees once but corrected quickly and only lost about 50 feet. It was a bit windy but the over bank was on me. I need to improve at scanning inside. Your tips definitely helped! I will continue to review this video and chair fly. With a little more practice I am confident I will dial it in.
Hi Josh, I passed my checkride and I am now a private pilot! I kept my steep turns within 25 feet. They were some of my best. Your channel is great and I learned a lot of what I needed to know and reinforced my learning by watching your videos. Thanks for continuing to share your knowledge. Learning never stops and as my examiner told me after passing "this is a license to learn". Thanks again for providing awesome free content!!
Great video. I did the PPL steep turns today for the first time. This tutorial helped me to understand the actions and just as importantly what to do when things go a bit off. The result was that my first attempt was average, I kept going back to 30 degrees as I was pulling back. But my forth attempt was well within tolerances both left and right So thanks.
This is great. I have been using 2 - 2.5 turns of up trim on a Cherokee to maintain the turn rate. But if you begin to lose altitude and pull back more, it tightens the spiral and does not seem to correct altitude much. I noticed you keep both hands on the yoke to more accurately control the back pressure. I'm going to try that, without adding trim, because you are right, when you roll out the plane immediately wants to climb. Love these tips!
🛫📖🛬 Hey Josh, Another good round of "Higher Education" 👍. You briefly mentioned flying into your wake while turning. I was trained to really lay that wing down on a reference point (60° or more) and do tight 720s both directions. The object was after hitting your wake immediately roll the opposite way and find the Wake again. From that we would go to accelerated stalls. Have you ever ridden in a car with somebody that throws you all over the car while they are turning and stopping, etc. They are definitely not fun to ride with. Same applies to an airplane. When you can smoothly execute your piloting skills it makes people have a lot more confidence in you. Thanks again Josh it's always a pleasure to look at your uploads. And I find something in each one of them that I need to rehearse, and I'm sure that's true for all of us no matter how thick your log book is. That really goes for the Bible too. GOD BLESS 📖🛐✈️
Thanks Chuck! That sounds like a lot of fun! It’s crazy how much the training has changed! I totally agree! You still have to continue to practice! And the Bible is no exception!
@@FreePilotTraining Hey Captain J, Thanks for your speedy reply and I'm glad you did because, There was just one other thing that I wanted to insert in my message to you about steep turns as we used to practice them is; When you really rack it over on the wing, and you got your fix on the ground established, When you go beyond 60°, I remember we would really power up and pull like the Dickens, And when you did hit your wake and here is where I wanted to make my point, When you nailed your wake with that stick back in your gut it was a pretty hard wack, Followed by heavy stick forces to get out of the turn on heading and rack it the other way. Getting smooth at that was really quite hard. (For me anyway)! My instructor knew that I was trying to delay working on spins and he suckered me right into it by letting me go across the top one time. W O W🙈 that really got my adrenaline going. And I firmly believe looking back on it he played with the rudder pedals and assisted me in going over lol (No Doubt) Back in that day too many guys were trying to buzz their girlfriend's houses and do tight turns overhead while waving at them, And just like you said you got to keep it coordinated and if you don't, Like one of my very close friends did his last air show doing that exact thing. And you're right, We did not use aileron, it was always elevator. It was a long time down the road before I started using aileron to compensate. One of the great things I've noticed that following your teaching curriculum is, that it makes us think about the past, and present and how we can pick up some great nuggets along the way. GOD Bless 📖🛐✈️
Great presentation! I’m working on CFI right now, and my instructor and I have been going back and forth on the best way to maintain altitude in a steep turn. I’ve always used minor power adjustments and elevator to control altitude. Using bank angle makes more sense. I’m definitely going to give it a try.
What I found critical in preforming steep turns is controlling the wing loading at the entry of the steep turn. A quick glance at the vertical speed indicator is a good indicator in determining if you have the correct increase in elevator pressure as you enter the turn. Once the bank is established, small adjustments in the bank angle can be used in controlling the pitch attitude and altitude. No need in fighting the elevator control pressure when to can control the wing loading by increasing or decreasing the bank angle.
Also, I pick a mountain point out on the horizon to start the turn and roll out of. But you suggested a Cardinal direction. I will try both ways and see what works best. I am a student piliot
Great video! Oddly enough, steep turns are the one maneuver that I haven’t had any issues with in my training. They’re a ton of fun when you nail the turn and catch your own wake turbulence!
Awesome I get it same control standards regardless of type of airplane ✈️ thx for heads up as I work all up for my ATP and currently preparing for the PPL Written exam
Great video. My only comments are the potential loss of speed is due to the increase in drag. As AOA increases, drag increases. I’m not sure that neutralizing the ailerons is some big secret, if you don’t, the airplane will just continue to roll into a steeper bank. Also, over banking tendencies will require a little opposite aileron (depending on bank desired bank angle). Also rather than peeking at the ball, one should develop a sense for skidding and slipping. I agree with you on rolling a bunch of trim in...don’t do it. Finally, while technically accurate about the g-loading, no one is going to find a g-meter reporting Gs to the 1/1000 place and be able to fly it. Look out the window and keep the nose planted where it needs to be by small deflection of the ailerons.
Thank you! I appreciate the comment. I know that there is a lot of detail that may be difficult for students to replicate, but I think it helps give them a good understanding of what’s happening when they’re performing the maneuver.
imho the best video on steep turns, little talk and good practical advice clearly demonstrated in the video. thanks just in time as i am getting ready for my flight review, at 82 and 3/4.
I discovered right out of the gate, Trim is your friend in steep turns. My CFI very briefly mentioned trim in steep turns. He wanted to see how I reacted to the higher g force and how I maintained the numbers I was looking for. Energy management. It's a three dimensional thing.
I also recommend looking at the VSI. It will give you a better indication of what's happening. the three secrets are fine, but remember use all the resources like TRIM, POWER, SCANN SCANN SCANN the other INSTRUMENTS, and there is NO INSTRUMENT THAT tells you your holding 1.414 Gs so tossssss that. Learn to use your trim it's easy and you can use it in ALL Planes. We're not doing 45 degree turns in normal flying or at least shouldn't especially with passengers, but we must know how to do them safely. So PRACTICE and be safe.
Do you recommend to always utilize old school vfr navigation including thumb rule vs new day like proflight apps and too memorize all airplane specific emergency procedures out of the poh and check mate ref cards
Awesome video. Great advice on using aileron to control altitude on a bank! Video idea: What is a great way to remember critical steps on a touch-and-go, go-arounds, or climb? On a recent touch-and-go landing, I forgot to put full rich mixture back in before climb. It wasn't until about 700 feet, before turning into cross-wind leg, that I noticed my mixture was leaned.
I used to watch shappert who is good but you sir are great, the explanations are second to none my primary go to now! For additional education, phenomenal job Josh please keep them coming mate!
This video is fantastic has has been a huge help for me! I've been struggling with commercial steep turns and you gave me several 'ah-hah' moments. Thank you!
Thank you very much for the video! Where can I download the document that you have used to explain the relevant information about the checkride? Kind regards, Yannick
I had my 1st actually flight in the PA 28 161 past weekend and I feel home at the controls and it all comes naturally to me with my prior 7000 hrs flight sim 🙃 and I look more out the cockpit then chasing the ball lol
What about opposite aileron in the turn to prevent the over banking tendencies and reducing asymmetric lift? Kinda the whole point of the maneuver I was told by an Army Air Corps instructor. Splendid videos. I really appreciate your efforts. I know it a bunch of work.
This is a great question! Yes, overbanking tendencies are a real thing, BUT, if you neutralize the ailerons like I discussed in the video, the effects are so minimal in MOST airplanes that if you keep any opposite aileron in, your going to climb. Typically two or three quick corrections throughout the turn is all you need. You’ll notice I descended about 40 feet during my turns and I just used a little opposite aileron to correct that. Thank you for the comment!
Great video! If you can tolerate and manage the G loads, a 60° steep turn is easier than a 45° turn. The overbanking tendency of an aircraft is at its most at 45° of bank. Beyond that the differential tip speeds converge. The theoretical 90° bank is essentially a loop on its side with matching wingtip velocities and zero overbanking force. Who knew?
Awesome video! All I'll say is entering and exiting the steep turn on a visual reference, ie, lake, factory, sports stadium, is so easy. Plus it keeps your eyes outside. Great video!!
Great stuff. I have a couple of questions. When using ailerons during the bank to correct horizon, do you "clear" them as you do for initiating the bank? As the plane turns through the wind what adjustments would you expect to make? So head, cross, tail? Should you factor wind direction into the choice of initial heading? Thanks again R
You typically don’t need to neutralize the ailerons if you’re only making a correction. If you need to make a big correction, sometimes you have to take half of it back out so you don’t go past where you need to be. As far as wind goes, it’s not really a factor for this maneuver. We’re concerned about bank angle, not the shape of your circle
This is a really helpful video! Thank you! It's really frustrating in Florida because it has been so hazy for the last few months that I can never see the horizon.
I don’t know about 3 turns on trim wheel, but I trim for pressure like any other trim and it massively improved my steep turns. Also, I LOVE the suggestion to "fly the T". Will definitely try this next time.
I never heard about the use of ailerons to maintain altitude in the steep turn. I’m going to have to watch many more of your videos to get my thought processes trained to do things the right way instead of the hard or simply wrong way. Thanks
Fantastic tips. I've only had one trial flight and already experienced these points. I think the controlling altitude with aileron is a particularly helpful point 👍
Cool tip I learned was as you roll and hit 30⁰, apply 2 full turns... top to bottom... of trim and continue to 45⁰ holds the horizon like magic. Then as you roll out, put the trim back as you pass 30⁰ again to wings level. Magic I tell you!
I'm getting closer to taking lessons but this stuff really helps. That last part does seem like a secrete as I read the whole Jepson book and don't recall that on 45* turns.. I will soon buy one ouf your shirts as a way of saying thanks for keeping this ground school interesting.. I also hear there are great A&P schools online. Can you recommend any?
You’re welcome! I appreciate you joining me on the channel. I’ve heard good and bad things about A&P. If heard they have good training, but they kinda push you through. I don’t have any personal recommendations.
Another great lesson and I appreciate the any plain training not here is how to do it in a 172 or 5 tips to improve your flying but 4 are specific to the 172. Nothing against the 172 but I'm not training in one
Great tips, I am currently in CPL training and this is a very helpful review and info. For CPL in Canada we do a turn through 180º, with an angle of bank of 45º, then without pause, reverse the turn to roll out on the original entry heading with the same limits of ±100 feet, ±10 knots, ±5º of bank, and ±10º on heading.
Even simpler: From left seat and left turns, nail the nosecone on the horizon. Yes you can't see it but you know where it is. From left seat and right turns, nosecone is a little lower (instructor will see nosecone on the horizon). Glance inside to check bank angle, rudder ball and airspeed but mostly keep eyes outside.
Advanced autopilots also use ailerons to control altitude once in a steep bank, say 60+ degrees. Since a smaller and smaller percentage of the lift vector is vertical, trying to control via pitch would cause very large deviations in g-load.
Question I noticed that you use both hands during your steep turns. I haven’t asked my instructor but I assumed that we should keep one hand on yoke and other on throttle? Am I making the steep turn harder by just trying to use 1 hand to control it?
You should be able to use 1 hand without issues. If you have a good friction lock on your throttle, there is no harm in using 2 hands and I feel like it’s a little easier to make a smooth even turn.
To get my Private, I had to master entry into & recovery, from spins, critical attitude recovery, etc. But, Commercial/Instrument trainiing brought on much more airwork and mastery of the aircraft. Nearing the end of that training, my personal margins required being able to fly headings accurately without deviation and alitudes within 25 ft. Instrument training brought on much more precise control of aircraft without unneeded nor desired control imputs. Suddenly, I realized climbing out one day that after leaving the runway, the wagging of wings, the bobbing of the nose, and general chaos getting the plane on course was absent. Now the plane rose, sure and steady. The departure turn entry slow, smooth, and precise. Suddenly, the old Piper Dakota seemed to fly more like an airliner, and the plane seemed grateful for not being manhandled and abused. Oy Vey, What wonders a fortune in training costs brought forth!
Do you do instruction out of the Jenks area? I want to do private pilot training, but I'd like more info on where and what earning possibilities there are afterward.
It’s funny that you should ask that. I got my PPL at riverside back in 2014, but I’m based out of Little Rock Arkansas at the moment and I’m going to be moving soon, but I’m not sure where yet.
I practice with a 10 knots wind fron 140, the left side was easy, but the right turn was very hard, i even feel pressure in my neck ,will try again next week
@@FreePilotTraining dude, I literally watched the video yesterday and practiced on my sim, I nailed it first try today morning, thanks much man Basically I wasn’t using enough ailerons like you said
As good as my FI was - I had never such a good explanation. I was always wondering what kind of corrections I should make if parameters run away. Since it is different than in level flight. I will try that out the next time airborne! Thank you so much!
The best instruction I've seen about steep turns;excellent job!!!
Thanks Rafael!
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I agree
@@FeltonZackery-gm8yl thank you!
Left out the use of the VSI VERY IMPORTANT and use of Trim. It's ok to use and will help you. So where is the instrument that gives 1.414 Gs. Learn toss that and scan interpret scan interpret scan interpret and use smooth inputs. In over 45 yrs of flying and years of teaching I don't know any pilots who are doing 45 degree turns with passengers on most flights. You need to know how to do them safely and that takes practice. Be safe
Nailed my steep turns for private, but was really struggling for commercial. I now know why! Thanks Josh!!!
Awesome! You’re welcome
Excellent instruction as usual.
During my training I had a hard time with steep turns because I was too focused on the instruments. At one point I told my instructor to be ready to intervene if something looks wrong and then I ONLY looked outside, trying to keep the point where the horizon disappears behind the dashboard stabilised. That was my first smooth steep turn and I didn't even lose or gain altitude. Now I mostly look outside and occasionally glance at the VSI and it works every time.
Thanks! It’s amazing how much easier it is when just looking outside
The intentional "neutralizing" the aileron bump did it for me. Great video as always! Check ride coming up soon. Cheers!!
It was definitely an eye opener for me as well! Thanks Chuck! Good luck on that check ride!
I was taught to do that, but never really understood what it was doing to the aircraft this makes perfect sense, and the illustration with flying that T makes it even easier to understand. Thanks.
@@scottwarner7264 you’re welcome!
Nice video. One hint that I was taught is see where the horizon intersects with the instrument panel.
If you keep the horizon at the same intersection, you will maintain altitude and ergo, airspeed
Great man, human being, pilot and instructor.
Thanks! Lol I’m definitely the second one
great instruction , i was never taught this . been flying now for over 40 years . you make it so easy.
Thanks! I appreciate that!
Working on my private pilot license and I have been struggling as I transition to the the second turn. My first steep turn is generally stable and coordinated. When I roll into the second turn I fall behind the airplane and tend to lose altitude. I am going up today to practice and I am going to try these tips. Doing some chair flying to practice before my flight. Will let you know how it goes. Thanks for the tips. Your channel is great and your training videos are the best ones for me. You make the concepts simple and easy to understand and you don't waste time with irrelevant jibber jabber. Thanks for being an awesome instructor and for making this training available to a guy on a budget!
Your welcome Scotty! Let me know how it goes!
@@FreePilotTraining I am happy to say it went much better today. My first attempt was my best. I used my ailerons and bank to control my altitude. On my second attempt I over banked to 60 degrees once but corrected quickly and only lost about 50 feet. It was a bit windy but the over bank was on me. I need to improve at scanning inside. Your tips definitely helped! I will continue to review this video and chair fly. With a little more practice I am confident I will dial it in.
@@scotty-55YJ awesome! Thanks for the update!
Hi Josh, I passed my checkride and I am now a private pilot! I kept my steep turns within 25 feet. They were some of my best. Your channel is great and I learned a lot of what I needed to know and reinforced my learning by watching your videos. Thanks for continuing to share your knowledge. Learning never stops and as my examiner told me after passing "this is a license to learn". Thanks again for providing awesome free content!!
Really really clear instruction.
Thanks!
I'm not a pilot, however I love learning about aviation and this channel provides satisfactorily :)
Awesome! Thank you!
Great video. I did the PPL steep turns today for the first time.
This tutorial helped me to understand the actions and just as importantly what to do when things go a bit off.
The result was that my first attempt was average, I kept going back to 30 degrees as I was pulling back.
But my forth attempt was well within tolerances both left and right
So thanks.
Thanks Chris! I appreciate you letting me know that this helped you! It’s great to get that feedback
This is great. I have been using 2 - 2.5 turns of up trim on a Cherokee to maintain the turn rate. But if you begin to lose altitude and pull back more, it tightens the spiral and does not seem to correct altitude much. I noticed you keep both hands on the yoke to more accurately control the back pressure. I'm going to try that, without adding trim, because you are right, when you roll out the plane immediately wants to climb. Love these tips!
Awesome! Let me know if these help!
🛫📖🛬
Hey Josh,
Another good round of "Higher Education" 👍.
You briefly mentioned flying into your wake while turning.
I was trained to really lay that wing down on a reference point (60° or more) and do tight 720s both directions.
The object was after hitting your wake immediately roll the opposite way and find the Wake again.
From that we would go to accelerated stalls.
Have you ever ridden in a car with somebody that throws you all over the car while they are turning and stopping, etc.
They are definitely not fun to ride with.
Same applies to an airplane. When you can smoothly execute your piloting skills it makes people have a lot more confidence in you.
Thanks again Josh it's always a pleasure to look at your uploads. And I find something in each one of them that I need to rehearse, and I'm sure that's true for all of us no matter how thick your log book is.
That really goes for the Bible too.
GOD BLESS
📖🛐✈️
Thanks Chuck! That sounds like a lot of fun! It’s crazy how much the training has changed! I totally agree! You still have to continue to practice! And the Bible is no exception!
@@FreePilotTraining
Hey Captain J,
Thanks for your speedy reply and I'm glad you did because,
There was just one other thing that I wanted to insert in my message to you about steep turns as we used to practice them is;
When you really rack it over on the wing, and you got your fix on the ground established,
When you go beyond 60°, I remember we would really power up and pull like the Dickens,
And when you did hit your wake and here is where I wanted to make my point,
When you nailed your wake with that stick back in your gut it was a pretty hard wack,
Followed by heavy stick forces to get out of the turn on heading and rack it the other way.
Getting smooth at that was really quite hard.
(For me anyway)!
My instructor knew that I was trying to delay working on spins and he suckered me right into it by letting me go across the top one time.
W O W🙈 that really got my adrenaline going.
And I firmly believe looking back on it he played with the rudder pedals and assisted me in going over lol
(No Doubt)
Back in that day too many guys were trying to buzz their girlfriend's houses and do tight turns overhead while waving at them,
And just like you said you got to keep it coordinated and if you don't,
Like one of my very close friends did his last air show doing that exact thing.
And you're right,
We did not use aileron, it was always elevator.
It was a long time down the road before I started using aileron to compensate.
One of the great things I've noticed that following your teaching curriculum is, that it makes us think about the past, and present and how we can pick up some great nuggets along the way.
GOD Bless
📖🛐✈️
Great presentation! I’m working on CFI right now, and my instructor and I have been going back and forth on the best way to maintain altitude in a steep turn. I’ve always used minor power adjustments and elevator to control altitude. Using bank angle makes more sense. I’m definitely going to give it a try.
Thank you so much! Give it a try, let me know what you think.
What a great video and all the extra tips. What a difference. Many Thanks..... Let's go fly when you're in McKinney Texas..........
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching! I’d love that!
Thank you for doing this! God Bless!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching! God Bless you too
What I found critical in preforming steep turns is controlling the wing loading at the entry of the steep turn. A quick glance at the vertical speed indicator is a good indicator in determining if you have the correct increase in elevator pressure as you enter the turn. Once the bank is established, small adjustments in the bank angle can be used in controlling the pitch attitude and altitude. No need in fighting the elevator control pressure when to can control the wing loading by increasing or decreasing the bank angle.
Thanks for the great content, my last update on my Garmin G500 included a g meter. This will help on my commercial check ride.
You’re welcome! Let me know if this helps you
Also, I pick a mountain point out on the horizon to start the turn and roll out of. But you suggested a Cardinal direction. I will try both ways and see what works best. I am a student piliot
The reference on the horizon works well too. You just have to be careful about that because you technically need to roll out on a specific heading
Great video! Oddly enough, steep turns are the one maneuver that I haven’t had any issues with in my training. They’re a ton of fun when you nail the turn and catch your own wake turbulence!
Thanks!
Awesome I get it same control standards regardless of type of airplane ✈️ thx for heads up as I work all up for my ATP and currently preparing for the PPL Written exam
Great video. My only comments are the potential loss of speed is due to the increase in drag. As AOA increases, drag increases. I’m not sure that neutralizing the ailerons is some big secret, if you don’t, the airplane will just continue to roll into a steeper bank. Also, over banking tendencies will require a little opposite aileron (depending on bank desired bank angle). Also rather than peeking at the ball, one should develop a sense for skidding and slipping. I agree with you on rolling a bunch of trim in...don’t do it. Finally, while technically accurate about the g-loading, no one is going to find a g-meter reporting Gs to the 1/1000 place and be able to fly it. Look out the window and keep the nose planted where it needs to be by small deflection of the ailerons.
Thank you! I appreciate the comment. I know that there is a lot of detail that may be difficult for students to replicate, but I think it helps give them a good understanding of what’s happening when they’re performing the maneuver.
@@FreePilotTraining you’re doing a great job. Keep at it.
@@whoanelly737-8 thanks!
As a fellow AF reservist aircrew member working on his PPL. You are a godsend! Always appreciate the subtle jokes; It helps the content stick!
That’s awesome! I’ve found that I remember things so much better when something funny is tied to it. Thanks for the comment!
imho the best video on steep turns, little talk and good practical advice clearly demonstrated in the video. thanks just in time as i am getting ready for my flight review, at 82 and 3/4.
Thank you so much! That means a lot!
Thx this is by far the number 1 instructional piloting explained on youtube. Anyone looking for on hands instruction. Go here and learn. Thx.
Thank you so much! This comment means a lot!
I discovered right out of the gate, Trim is your friend in steep turns. My CFI very briefly mentioned trim in steep turns. He wanted to see how I reacted to the higher g force and how I maintained the numbers I was looking for. Energy management. It's a three dimensional thing.
I also recommend looking at the VSI. It will give you a better indication of what's happening. the three secrets are fine, but remember use all the resources like TRIM, POWER, SCANN SCANN SCANN the other INSTRUMENTS, and there is NO INSTRUMENT THAT tells you your holding 1.414 Gs so tossssss that. Learn to use your trim it's easy and you can use it in ALL Planes. We're not doing 45 degree turns in normal flying or at least shouldn't especially with passengers, but we must know how to do them safely. So PRACTICE and be safe.
Agreed. The only bad thing about the VSI is that it’s a lag instrument. It won’t always give you accurate info right away
You make it look so easy!! Excellent!
Thanks!
This help me out more then anything I've tried. This will fix me .this is great..
Awesome! So glad I could help!
Do you recommend to always utilize old school vfr navigation including thumb rule vs new day like proflight apps and too memorize all airplane specific emergency procedures out of the poh and check mate ref cards
I would definitely know how to use the old school methods and practice them regularly, but Foreflight really is king
I got my PPL 7 months ago and your videos are being very helpful to me to improve my skills, thanks! Greetings from Italy.
You’re welcome! You have a beautiful country! I lived in Porcia Italy for 3 years
@@FreePilotTraining I live in Palermo, Sicily, welcome back anytime!
@@Massimiliano-Fauci awesome! Thank you!
You are so helpful and awesome. Thank you!
You’re welcome!
Great video... I really like how you explained that you NEED to pull a minimum amount of G's to keep the 45 degree banking turn
Thank you! Yes, that is very important if you don’t want to descend
I have my biannual flight review this week. This information will be a big help. Thank you.
You’re welcome! Let me know if it helps!
Great video! Fun trivia: to find the required Gs for a level turn for a given bank angle, the formula is 1/cos(x), x being your bank angle in degrees.
Thank you! I wish I could remember trig better lol
Awesome video. Great advice on using aileron to control altitude on a bank! Video idea: What is a great way to remember critical steps on a touch-and-go, go-arounds, or climb? On a recent touch-and-go landing, I forgot to put full rich mixture back in before climb. It wasn't until about 700 feet, before turning into cross-wind leg, that I noticed my mixture was leaned.
Thanks! You might like my newest video on go-arounds
I used to watch shappert who is good but you sir are great, the explanations are second to none my primary go to now! For additional education, phenomenal job Josh please keep them coming mate!
Thanks Adam! I appreciate this comment! It really helps give me motivation! I’ll see you around!
Thank you very much, I’m working on my private pilot’s license and you’ve helped me a lot
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
This really helps a lot. Great explanation, thanks for posting.
You’re welcome!
This video is fantastic has has been a huge help for me! I've been struggling with commercial steep turns and you gave me several 'ah-hah' moments. Thank you!
You’re welcome! These AF teaches these tips because when you fly steep turns in formation, everyone has to know what they’re doing! Lol
Thank you very much for the video!
Where can I download the document that you have used to explain the relevant information about the checkride?
Kind regards,
Yannick
You’re welcome! Here you go! www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/training_testing/testing/acs/private_airplane_acs_change_1.pdf
@@FreePilotTraining Thank you!
Thanks
You’re welcome!
Your videos are THE best and helping me so so much, thank you!!
Thanks Molly! I appreciate that
I had my 1st actually flight in the PA 28 161 past weekend and I feel home at the controls and it all comes naturally to me with my prior 7000 hrs flight sim 🙃 and I look more out the cockpit then chasing the ball lol
I’m always amazed at how much flying a sim helps
@@FreePilotTraining perhaps some time you and I can take a flight together
@@Dappertrucker that’d be cool
@Free Pilot Training my airport is MKC and your airport? MKC is a class Delta
What about opposite aileron in the turn to prevent the over banking tendencies and reducing asymmetric lift? Kinda the whole point of the maneuver I was told by an Army Air Corps instructor.
Splendid videos. I really appreciate your efforts. I know it a bunch of work.
This is a great question! Yes, overbanking tendencies are a real thing, BUT, if you neutralize the ailerons like I discussed in the video, the effects are so minimal in MOST airplanes that if you keep any opposite aileron in, your going to climb. Typically two or three quick corrections throughout the turn is all you need. You’ll notice I descended about 40 feet during my turns and I just used a little opposite aileron to correct that. Thank you for the comment!
3rd video I’ve watched of yours so far and gotta say it’s better than any ground lesson online I’ve ever paid for.
Thank you so much for that! I hope to make many more!
Great video! If you can tolerate and manage the G loads, a 60° steep turn is easier than a 45° turn. The overbanking tendency of an aircraft is at its most at 45° of bank. Beyond that the differential tip speeds converge. The theoretical 90° bank is essentially a loop on its side with matching wingtip velocities and zero overbanking force. Who knew?
Yeah, I’ve noticed that. Thanks for the comment!
Thank you so much for great advice. You are amazing
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Awesome video! All I'll say is entering and exiting the steep turn on a visual reference, ie, lake, factory, sports stadium, is so easy. Plus it keeps your eyes outside. Great video!!
Thank you! Yes, that is the one thing I didn’t mention, but i definitely should have.
Can't wait to try the Air Force's "T Turn" manuever too!
@@lonhaenel3030 it’s a good one!
Great video, thank you. Passed my ppl exams last week yippee. Just flying and continue the learning curve.
Congrats! That’s very exciting! Thanks for watching, and I’ll see you around!
I have been struggling with my steep turns to the right I am looking forward to my next flight and trying out your method to the madness thx
You’re welcome! Let me know how it goes!
This guy is a genius,,period
Thank you!
Great stuff. I have a couple of questions. When using ailerons during the bank to correct horizon, do you "clear" them as you do for initiating the bank? As the plane turns through the wind what adjustments would you expect to make? So head, cross, tail? Should you factor wind direction into the choice of initial heading?
Thanks again
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You typically don’t need to neutralize the ailerons if you’re only making a correction. If you need to make a big correction, sometimes you have to take half of it back out so you don’t go past where you need to be. As far as wind goes, it’s not really a factor for this maneuver. We’re concerned about bank angle, not the shape of your circle
Perfect and simple explanation. So sad I didn't see it before.
Thank you!
Great tips
Thanks!
Really informative and useful tips , sub. Thanks
Thanks Dave! And welcome to the community!
Very good instruction. Thanks!
You’re welcome!
Comprehensive, thanks.
No problem! Thanks for watching!
Awesome video thanks.
You’re welcome!
@@FreePilotTraining Have you done videos on slow flights?
Thanks! Great stuff for the CFI toolbag. 🙂
You’re welcome!
love this video, thx for everything you did
Thank you so much!
This is very good thanks for your help
You’re welcome!
Really great instruction! Great video. Please continue producing your teaching videos for us!
Thank you so much! Will do! I’m hoping to make a video on power on stalls very soon
This is a really helpful video! Thank you! It's really frustrating in Florida because it has been so hazy for the last few months that I can never see the horizon.
Thanks! Yeah, that definitely makes it harder
Honestly, best explanation of steep turns.
Thanks JB!
Super valuable. I wish my cfi would have me watch this BEFORE going into the plane. There are a LOT of not so great CFIs out there.
Thank you so much! Yes, there are. I understand why. It’s hard to mash in all the information that a student actually needs.
Thanks for the tips. Starting my ppl next month
You’re welcome! Good luck! It’s a great time!
Great tips, i needed that! I’ll try the T tomorrow!
Awesome! Let me know how it goes!
How do you feel about very slight amount of opposite rudder near the end of rolling out of your bank angle to help hone in that original heading?
Yes, love it. Use opposite rudder as you’re rolling out of the turn as if it’s tied to the ailerons. This helps account for adverse yaw.
I don’t know about 3 turns on trim wheel, but I trim for pressure like any other trim and it massively improved my steep turns.
Also, I LOVE the suggestion to "fly the T". Will definitely try this next time.
Thanks! Yeah, the trim trick isn’t my fav, but it does work
I never heard about the use of ailerons to maintain altitude in the steep turn. I’m going to have to watch many more of your videos to get my thought processes trained to do things the right way instead of the hard or simply wrong way. Thanks
No problem! I’ve got a bunch already made, and I’m working on more all the time!
Fantastic tips. I've only had one trial flight and already experienced these points. I think the controlling altitude with aileron is a particularly helpful point 👍
Thanks! I’m so glad you found them helpful!
I agree, adjusting the trim will mess me up. I noticed you are using two hands on the yoke.
That’s my personal preference. I like to set the power and leave it, then make sure I pull symmetrical G forces
Thanks!
You’re welcome!
Great video! Very informative.
Thanks Scott!
This was so helpful! Thank you!!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Definitely needed this. Thank you! Ill practice on flight sim before i go real life again.
You’re welcome! Let me know if it helps!
Man, these videos continue to be the best I’ve found on so many topics. If I was a CFI, i’d be recommending them constantly. Thanks for all your work!
Thank you so much! That means a lot!
Cool tip I learned was as you roll and hit 30⁰, apply 2 full turns... top to bottom... of trim and continue to 45⁰ holds the horizon like magic. Then as you roll out, put the trim back as you pass 30⁰ again to wings level. Magic I tell you!
I’ve used that one before. It works pretty well
I'm getting closer to taking lessons but this stuff really helps. That last part does seem like a secrete as I read the whole Jepson book and don't recall that on 45* turns.. I will soon buy one ouf your shirts as a way of saying thanks for keeping this ground school interesting.. I also hear there are great A&P schools online. Can you recommend any?
You’re welcome! I appreciate you joining me on the channel. I’ve heard good and bad things about A&P. If heard they have good training, but they kinda push you through. I don’t have any personal recommendations.
Excellent instructor!
Thank you!
Another great lesson and I appreciate the any plain training not here is how to do it in a 172 or 5 tips to improve your flying but 4 are specific to the 172. Nothing against the 172 but I'm not training in one
Thanks! Yeah, the 172 is a great plane, but I love the Cherokee just as much. It is a very simple plane to fly
You’re a legend dude! Just typed this up and added it to my chair flying notebook. Thank you!
Thanks! That means a lot!
The checklist I have says 95 knots steep turns for the Cessna 172S. Good video!
Thank you! Yes, many POHs give you a speed
This channel is amazing. I show these videos to all of my students. Thanks for the awesome content.
Thanks Chase! I appreciate that!
such great content!! thanks big time for all the work you have put i to this series
Thanks JC! I appreciate that!
Great tips, I am currently in CPL training and this is a very helpful review and info. For CPL in Canada we do a turn through 180º, with an angle of bank of 45º, then without pause, reverse the turn to roll out on the original entry heading with the same limits of ±100 feet, ±10 knots, ±5º of bank, and ±10º on heading.
That’s interesting. I feel like that wouldn’t be too bad
Even simpler: From left seat and left turns, nail the nosecone on the horizon. Yes you can't see it but you know where it is. From left seat and right turns, nosecone is a little lower (instructor will see nosecone on the horizon). Glance inside to check bank angle, rudder ball and airspeed but mostly keep eyes outside.
Great job!
Thanks!
When i was struggling with this my instructor said to use trim more...mind blown!
@@erosnemesis that does work. I’ve used that method too
Excellent video. Am doing steep turns in my training at the moment, so these tips will help alot.
Thanks Richard! Let me know if it helped.
Advanced autopilots also use ailerons to control altitude once in a steep bank, say 60+ degrees. Since a smaller and smaller percentage of the lift vector is vertical, trying to control via pitch would cause very large deviations in g-load.
I actually did not know that
Question I noticed that you use both hands during your steep turns. I haven’t asked my instructor but I assumed that we should keep one hand on yoke and other on throttle? Am I making the steep turn harder by just trying to use 1 hand to control it?
You should be able to use 1 hand without issues. If you have a good friction lock on your throttle, there is no harm in using 2 hands and I feel like it’s a little easier to make a smooth even turn.
Awesome! Thanks!!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
To get my Private, I had to master entry into & recovery, from spins, critical attitude recovery, etc. But, Commercial/Instrument trainiing brought on much more airwork and mastery of the aircraft. Nearing the end of that training, my personal margins required being able to fly headings accurately without deviation and alitudes within 25 ft. Instrument training brought on much more precise control of aircraft without unneeded nor desired control imputs. Suddenly, I realized climbing out one day that after leaving the runway, the wagging of wings, the bobbing of the nose, and general chaos getting the plane on course was absent. Now the plane rose, sure and steady. The departure turn entry slow, smooth, and precise. Suddenly, the old Piper Dakota seemed to fly more like an airliner, and the plane seemed grateful for not being manhandled and abused. Oy Vey, What wonders a fortune in training costs brought forth!
Do you do instruction out of the Jenks area? I want to do private pilot training, but I'd like more info on where and what earning possibilities there are afterward.
It’s funny that you should ask that. I got my PPL at riverside back in 2014, but I’m based out of Little Rock Arkansas at the moment and I’m going to be moving soon, but I’m not sure where yet.
I thought I heard some familiar towns that are nearby in some of your videos. I'm a big fan!
Thanks Mike! I appreciate that
I practice with a 10 knots wind fron 140, the left side was easy, but the right turn was very hard, i even feel pressure in my neck ,will try again next week
Yeah, let me know how it goes
I don't even have any airtime yet and I already feel more comfortable with this manoeuvre. 👍👍 🐐
Lol 😆 Glad I could help!
Problem with me is, I always mess up on the first couple steep turns and then do them perfectly
That’s not uncommon. You’ll get where you don’t need the practice round
@@FreePilotTraining dude, I literally watched the video yesterday and practiced on my sim, I nailed it first try today morning, thanks much man
Basically I wasn’t using enough ailerons like you said
@@Aditya-wg3lp awesome! You’re welcome! Thanks for letting me know that this helped you!
Thanks for the great tip!
You’re welcome!
@@FreePilotTraining just passed my check ride and all of this was very helpful. Looking outside most of the time is really the key!
As good as my FI was - I had never such a good explanation. I was always wondering what kind of corrections I should make if parameters run away. Since it is different than in level flight. I will try that out the next time airborne! Thank you so much!
You’re welcome! Let me know how it works for you