WILL KETO KILL YOU IN THE LONG TERM? - Dr. Westman Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Another day, another alarmist headline about keto diets. You can practically set your watch by them! Is keto harmful over the long term? Is it only safe to eat this way for a short time? If keto massively improves your health, will you need to abandon it after some period of time or risk serious problems? Watch Dr. Westman’s latest video to see his reactions to these clickbait claims.
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My Mom lived to 94. She was over weight from age 30-60. While the craze back then was to eat low-fat, she went against the “grain” and began a no sugar/flour/wheat/rice/pasta way of eating. That was back in the late 80’s, it wasn’t referred to as low carb. When I reached my 60s, I decided I was going to eat her way. She was my role model and inspiration. She passed away last year, living her entire life disease free, med free and active until 3 day before she passed. I will always be an anti-sugar believer. Thank you Dr. Westman.
She probably read Dr. Atkin's first mass market book that was published in 1972?
She actually got involved with the 12-step program, Overeaters Anonymous. She believed she was a compulsive overeater. OA used AA’s 12-steps but it didn’t tell you how or what to eat. My Mom needed more guidelines so she got involved with a segment of that program called OA-HOW (I forget what the acronym stands for). They used the 12-step but also had a food plan. So to remain abstinent, their plan called for no sugar/flour/wheat/rice/pasta. Three meals a day and no eating in between. So in the 80’s she was doing low carb and intermittent fasting and just didn’t know it. Lol. Her friends thought she crazy and amazing at the same time. 😊
My grandmother had some similarities. She wasn't overweight at any point in her life, she largely stayed away from carbs, and her father, my great grandfather lived until he was 97 while being very fit during his last few days. The last time I saw him was when he was 96, and he was both cycling and rowing in his canoe every day, which is astonishing for someone at that age. However, my grandmother was a long time smoker and eventually passed away last year due to lung cancer at the age of 87. Lung issues aside, her cognitive abilities and health were both relatively good before she passed away in her sleep.
My grandfather was a non-smoker who, despite being tall and skinny for as long as I can remember, died at the relatively young age of 84. He ate low carb meals like my grandmother did, but he also made his own jam and his own desserts, which consisted of various cakes and desserts that he would consume daily. He eventually passed away from colorectal cancer. I think you can do certain things in life very right, and still fall victim to other, bad habits. The medical community has mislead themselves and others for several decades due to studies and surveys that looked at a specific part of human behavior, while at the same time ignoring behavioral patterns that are just as important, if not more important when it comes to reaching an accurate conclusion.
The studies on red meat is a prime example, where they have typically concluded that the red meat group in the studies had more health issues, therefore red meat must be bad for health. Not taking into account that a large portion of the so-called meat eaters in their studies were people who over-indulged, lived sedentary lifestyles, and consumed trans-fats and chemicals that clearly necessitated their own, separate studies.
And interestingly, just looking at age of death tells you nothing about quality of life.
2 of my Uncles lived past 105. Potatoes were included in almost meal. Except when they ate pancakes for breakfast.
Oh : That's carbs. And that's why they lived so long.
They ate what there bodies needed.
Been keto 41yrs Dr Atkins. Started at 28yrs old going on my 69th b'day. No meds
I've been almost completely carnivore for forty years, I'm seventy-one now and, thank you very much, healthy and happy.
Hi Pepper. Can you tell us more about your health changes please.
Hi pepper, what blood type are you? I guess it's type O a definite meat eater.
How many years have you been a compulsive liar????
@@Jack-gh2jethe blood type was disproven for those of us on the carnivore diet. 5 years here AB. 75 years old.
Those of us who have been doing this for a long time (15 years keto and 10 years carnivore in my case) get this objection constantly. After you fail to drop dead of scurvy in a year or two, you start getting the, "Well, this might be a good short term weight loss hack but it's clearly not sustainable long term", objection.
Also, it matters what kinds of health issues one was dealing with before adopting a low carb lifestyle. I'm still alive at 15 years past a serious cancer diagnosis. According to all the actuarial tables, I should have been dead a long time ago.
This guy thinks blue zones are vegan? One blue is in Sardegna, Italy. I've spent a little time there and their diet is a pure Mediterranean diet which includes a lot of meats like rabbit, wild pigs, etc , and seafood as the island is surrounded by water.
Yeah… still not dead….
@Bruce McKay same! I've been trying for 5 years now😂😂😂
@@blessedbygaia6862 That's a great place to start.
@Blessed by Gaia And I have absolutely no problem with that. Each human body is different, no one diet will ever suit the entire population (are you taking notice vegans?) and the aim is to find what makes you whole and well and living each day the way you intend to!
I’ve never heard anybody claim a low carb or any diet is proven to extend a person’s life? All I know is since I went full carnivore and I feel awesome all the time and I never experienced that before.
As other have said before, "at least I'll die feeling good".
Yeh there's no diet that can be shown to extend a persons life. The science required to show that cannot be undertaken. We just have to look to other areas like archaeology and anthropology and see what the evidence points too.
Your diet might be right for you i guess that you are not blood type A, that's what makes the difference.blood type A is vegetarian meaning meat is of no value for them.
@bruce lee TRUE the only way to extend life is to fast on a regular basis (24/48hrs min!)
Anyone who claims some diet will make you live longer is making things up. There is no way to prove that. They usually use intermediate markers, you have to make a huge leap to a conclusion from those.
Speaking from personal experience, it is impossible for a person who practises keto to live in the same house with someone on a high carbo plant based diet. The rift is real.
I love it when Dr. Westman goes to battle with these people!!
I think Westman is being too soft with the plant based propagandists. Westman should have pointed out how this vegetarian doesn't attack the SAD diet with the same enthusiasm. We've seen how sick people are getting on SAD.
@@jimrutherford2773 very true he is really soft to this guys
@@lucyc1223 Eric is a nice man, won’t stoop to plant chopper level.
Dr. Westman is a gentleman, but he’s no pushover. Look up the Q and A session from the Israel conference a few years back to see him (and Phinney) shut down a loud-mouthed endocrinologist.
the manipulation technique of the “false laugh while I say something I want you to think is obvious and incontrovertible” from Plant Chompers is such a give away, as is the appeal to authority manipulation technique of calling a scientist he agrees with “respected” but omitting it for scientists he wants to undermine.
My coworkers keep pushing carbs. I stopped talking about what I eat . It’s a lost cause. Same with my family, even though I’m in great shape 💪🏼🤷🏽♀️.
A lot of people who died of heart attacks in the 50s 60s and '70s smoked a great deal. I wonder if that might have contributed to some of these earlier deaths?
and if they didn't, they were exposed to smoke all the time, not to mention bad air quality outside too before the EPA.
I base my judgments on results! As a 74 y.o. 240 pounds T2 diabetic with high blood pressure, I don't believe that my eating a high-carb diet was going to lead me to a long life because I was gaining weight non-stop.
Then my best friend of 50-plus years died of a heart attack.
That shocked me into taking stock of my diet and health.
I instantly researched diets and settled on the Carnivore meat-only menu. That lasted only 10 days as I was always a raw veggie lover. So, I added broccoli, cauliflower, tomatoes, celery, kohlrabi, zucchini and yellow squash, cabbage (red & green), and avocados -- get the picture. I stayed away from pizza, doughnuts, sugar, cereals, corn, potatoes, bread, pasta, beans, rice, chips, etc. If the label indicated high carbs, then I didn't buy it!
As a result, I have lost 30 pounds. I did so slowly. It took me 4 months and I have another 20 pounds to go.
No diet plan ever worked for me as I never went longer than 2 weeks on any diet plan without cheating. I don't cheat on Keto because I am full most of the time. I can easily go 14 - 16 hours without eating anything at all. Not every day, to be honest, but I have stopped feeling hungry and if I eat more, I feel bloated and overly full.
All other diets told me to eat when I got hungry, which was about every half hour, so I snacked on whatever was available in my fridge. Now, I don't keep a lot of food in my fridge anymore.
I have not sat down at my dining table with a typical full plate of various kinds of food and bread in 3 1/2 months. My typical dish now is the meat of the day. If I eat a vegetable, it's usually raw prior to eating the meat.
I now keep my blood glucose below 100 in the morning and around the mid-70s during the day and evening.
I don't test for ketones, but I must be doing something right if I've lost 30+ pounds!
Plus, if I want pizza, I use a low-carb tortilla and homemade pizza sauce, cheese, and pepperoni. I am grateful that it tastes as good as a fast-food thin-crust pizza and better than any store-bought pizza I ever ate!
Thanks for your insights!
My wife and I are seeing the same results. We almost started Keto years ago but held off because of all the negative commentaries. We fell for it and wish we hadn't. We have been strictly keto now since Jan 1 of this year and have each lost over 55 lbs since then! We feel the best we have felt in decades. We are also full for long periods of time, have enormous amounts of energy and our whole kitchen and refrigerator has changed just like you describe.
Pepperoni aside, I think your decision to cut out processed foods from your diet is a recipe for success, regardless of whether you're a vegan or a carnivore. They cause so much inflammation in our bodies that both directly and indirectly influence our health in so many negative ways without us even noticing that the food we consume is the perpetrator behind it.
Contrary to popular belief, high fat meals will keep you satiated, combat sugar cravings and won't actually cause you to gain weight as long as you don't consume processed sugars at the same time. If you absolutely have to consume something sweet, fruit is a much better alternative than a donut.
This guy is off his rocker. Life expectancy in the US was 47 years in 1900 and 68 years in 1950. Most of the supposedly low carb authors and others he mentioned were born when life expectency was much lower. Living until your 60s or 70s was pretty darn good for someone born in 1920.
The life expectancy stats are a bit misleading because the higher infant mortality pulled down the average. A better measure would be life expectancy at age 18, not at birth. That makes for better comparison. In medieval times the life expectancy was in the 30s but that didn't mean that most people died in their 30s. You couldn't run a society like that.
Similarly the increasing life expectancy in the last 50 years is not because we are keeping people healthier for longer but because we are keeping people sick for longer.
@@coweatsman agreed. We've become good at extending life in a nursing home bed, as long as it is profitable. Drugs and cheap food. Cash cow corpse management. Sad.
All correct and life in 1900 was on average a harder life, more physical labor, more dangers to ones life and well being.
Terise D,
My mom was born in 1912 and lived to be 87 years old. My dad was born in 1907 and he lived to be 92 years old. They both only used eyeglasses to read.
@@skinnydee1886 Yes my grandpa was born in 1900 and lived to be 93, he grew his own garden and canned own food etc. But born in 1900 and living in late 1800's to where you are close to middle age or older in the year 1900 I assume is how they are figuring these things.
Dr. Richard K. Bernstein is (correction) 89 y/o low carber and a type 1 diabetic . Still going strong...
correction, by the time you read this, he will be 89.
@@sharkair2839
Thank you Mr. Smarty pants...
But remember he is not an endocrinologist even though many believe that he is apparently. Before making a bar bet always consider the possibility that what you read was wrong, not everyone does basic fact checking unfortunately.
@@jackschitt6235 Bernstein's efforts to publish articles on his experience in medical journals were rejected because he was not a doctor. He applied to and was accepted at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine at age 45 and graduated as an endocrinologist.[
@@sharkair2839 U r misinformed as are many. He is a medical doctor who focuses on diabetes but he is not an endocrinologist. You can view his CV at his site. I know his story well and read his book a long time ago.
Do these plant chompers not realize that no one makes it out alive?
We need to study witch group dies with the highest level of, smug. This guy will be off the charts.
Plant chompers. Live a lot longer and healthier. That's what counts.
You meatheads get sick suffer and die young!
As soon as you are born you are destined to death
Exactly. Healthspan, not lifespan. Death gives health is meaning 😘
@@Caladcholg
Plant eaters have the longest healthspan and lifespan.
Meat eater the shortest.
No plant based person has ever described the negative effects of grain/carb deficiency in detail. They all vaguely say "it's bad".
Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn explains it.
What do you mean, there's no studies on keto? We've been living on keto for millions of years. We're still here, Isn't that long enough?
Thank you for this Eric. Your credibility is needed in this space and Chris needed to be put in his place!
Who is the person in the video, Chris?
@@engc4953 the fibre muncher himself
@@darkfieldcarnivore3928 😂😂
@@engc4953 He is Chris Mcaskill of the Plant Chompers channel.
@@crocmandarin thank you!
Thank you Dr. Westman. Btw, Dr. Wolfgang Lutz (Life without Bread) died at 97. I have his book and it’s a valuable read with much scientific results of his patients as a clinician. Dr. Joseph Kraft, father of the insulin assay test was in his mid 90s when he died and he was articulate until the end. Then there’s Dr. Richard K. Bernstein who is still practicing medicine at nearly 90. You’re right that statistics like these are irrelevant.
Life Without Bread was my first low carb book.
The Carnivore diet IS without doubt BEST diet for humans 👍
Of course, Ancel Keys died old…
I love Lutz's book. Dr. Bernstein has also been a type 1 diabetic since he was a young man.
OMG Dr. Westman .. You have the patience of a saint responding to these videos !! 😊
The comment/question I have is to those who call themselves a “Vegan Keto”. This is something I’ve never understood or gotten a response to. A Nutritional Ketogenic diet is 20gms or less TOTAL carbs/day .. so how can someone who says they’re “Vegan Keto” do that ?? I often wonder when I hear these so called nutritional experts/influencers talk about keto .. whether they even know what it is. Do they actually understand the Biochemistry and Human Biology of being Metabolically Healthy at a cellular/mitochondrial level ? I’ve been living a healthy Nutritional Ketogenic/Fasting lifestyle for almost 5yrs now .. and one of the things I’ve learned over these years is that being Metabolically Healthy is something that can be measured. So whenever anyone (I don’t care who they are) tries to tell me that living this way is dangerous .. I simply ignore them and know that that’s not what my numbers say.
Thank you Dr. Westman .. for all that you do in teaching/helping so many people all around the world become Metabolically Healthy. For in the end .. the RESULTS will speak for themselves !!! ✨
Patience is surely required. I’m a nurse and have a nurse friend who constantly berates me for being low carb. It takes a lot of patience.
I suppose the keto vegans eat mostly leafy greens, nuts, coconut products, and avocados.
you can down olive oil all day, eat a few nuts and olives and probably be keto.
4 years ago I lost 85 pounds and got exponentially healthier by going keto. I’m still with it. People I work with wanted to know the whole story, I told them, and they did research, bad research. “That’s unhealthy….I heard!”…..
”You need to stop!”. Today they are very quietly moving towards keto but I hear them talk and they got it all wrong. “Popcorn has no carbs” I heard one say.
I started on keto in late 2021 and stayed on it for 12 months. I ended up losing 8kg in the first 4 months and maintained the loss until the 12 month mark. After which I am now on a very low carb diet and still able to easily maintain the weight I lost. I'm not great with consistent exercise but try to do something active 2-3 times a week.
@@uannie4749 Bravo! I’m not at all a cardio gym guy but I do split firewood 3 days per week. Handling a saw and lifting logs keep me fit.
I am not persuaded by the Vegan rhetoric any longer. He not only doesn't mention other lifestyle factors but in only a couple of those deaths does he mention 'heart attack' or 'cancer'. What did the others all die of? My boyfriend and I went vegan for 5 months after watching one of the vegan documentaries in 2019 or 2020. We followed all of the influencers' advice, supplemented, ate whole foods only, etc. Not only was it A Lot of work, but I gained so much inflammation weight, I could no longer get my shoes on my very swollen feet. I was weak and lethargic, had horrible brain fog, and my hair was falling out at a rapid pace. My boyfriend could hardly get through a day of work. We both felt like crap. Then we each ate a ribeye one evening and WOW the difference the very next day!
Vegans seem to think anyone can be vegan. Not me....I'd be hungry and tired all the time.
That's not a life I want to live. Especially if it's prolonging it for another 5-10 years! 😄
I went vegetarian 30 years ago. FAIL. @shannoncolleen what was your salt/electrolytes like when you & your bf were doing vegan?
I wonder if I'd supplemented my salt/electrolytes on vegetarian if I'd gotten more success.
I'm currently whole food low carb. But i make sure i get enough salt & electrolytes.
Electrolytes and salt were fine, we took whatever supps we needed and I eat a lot of salt. 😁@@kirkrasmussen2601
I had gastric bypass surgery in 2018. I have gained a few pounds and felt not so great so I am starting low carb/keto at the suggestion of my gastro provider. I just order Dr Westmans book and accompanying cook book. Can’t wait for more of this content. I am debating on registering for his course!
I don't see vegan authorities discussing the extremely poor adherence (it's clearly 'not sustainable'), the stunting of their children, their osteoporosis, insane incidence of depression, not to mention the widespread inflammatory/arthritic issues and their many diabetics. So reluctant to turn the spotlight inwards
Because it’s not about health, it’s about their ideology snuck in under a “health” disguise
My neighbor has been a hard core vegan most of his adult life, he rarely ate meat, only ate or drank organic food and never drank or ate anything that was in plastic. He worked out pretty much every day, drank kombucha tea, did everything by the book of health. He was an avid bike rider on and on. He got leukemia at the age of 61 or so and at the age of 65 had a heart attack and stints. I also knew a guy who drank a case of beer every single day of his adult life, rarely ate food of any kind, smoked for most of his adult life and lived to be in his mid 80s with pretty good heath overall. I guess my point is you can do it all right and die from the things you were trying to prevent or do everything wrong and live to be old. Its a gamble for most of us and genetics play a big role in our health. We have no clue really nor do doctors, after all they are just practicing medicine right?
He was a 'vegan' and 'rarely ate meat'. If he broke his clean streak, can he really be called a 'vegan'? I'm pretty sure that one steak he had 10 Christmases ago caused all his health problems today.
@@henrytang2203 😅😅😅
doctors PRACTICE medicine
So 4 -5 beers a day sounds ideal... i will try that one.
You know, when the history of this generation is written, we will see it as an age of growing confidence in out ability to control destiny through diet (and lifestyle). This old attitude of throwing up our hands and saying genetics controls everything is fast disappearing. I believe we have way more control over staving off chronic disease than our parents thought we did.
Jack Lalane was 96 when he passed away. He was still exercising and in good shape. He had complications from getting pneumonia and may have recovered but refused to see a doctor. He was exercising the day before he passed away.
I don’t really care what that plant based guy said, I am eating meat 😂
My doctor told me to stick with the Keto.
Keto has really been around for a mlion years as humans essentially ate a keto like diet, while vegan diets has only been around less than 100 years. I think keto has proven its case for longevity and sustainability.
Depending on where people lived. Planes of Europe or the tropics around the equator. The less vegetation, the less fruit and tubers we have and the more we depend on animals for food.
Dr. Westman is always so gracious -- he even refers to "doctor" MacAskill, though it seems to me his degree is a B.S. in geophysics. Also has executive and other business/entrepreneurial background. He's a good example of the mind's wonderful capacity to be a world-in-itself, while remaining completely divorced from reality.
That great intro to keto by Westman, Phinney & Volek was instrumental in helping me get my T2D under control after I'd been following Ormish ("Ornischkeit") and had experienced a steady rise in my BG, year after year.
Hats off to Dr. Westman! 🏆
There are super athletes that eat carnivore and run double marathons and are super fit. I don’t see a lot of vegans in the super fit space
It’s not about living longer….. it’s about feeling good in your skin, hopefully disease free, muscle toned, with good bone density. 🙌🏼
Keep it up , Dr W ! 🎉
It's also about living longer, and not having to hope you're not disease free.
Yeh you want a good quality of life along with a good quantity of life.
You could also get hit by a bus tomorrow, not diet related. If you get longevity out of this, than that’s awesome. But always go for the health with the allotted time that you have.
tHANK YOU
Your comment nails it.
I am 58 and healthy, I swim 1 hour a day and full carnivore.
No aches or pains, no medication and mentally strong.
I often get mistaken for being 10 years younger.
Life is good and and making the most of every day God gives me.
I love how Chris just flips through the pages of The China Study, full of graphs and charts, as though doing so proves his claim that it is science of the highest caliber.
I'm 56 years of age and for me low carb keeps my a1c in the middle 5 range and post meal spikes below 140, fasting 70s to 90s. I did lacto-ovo-pesce vegetarian for 2 years and my a1c was always 6.1 or higher, post meal spikes close to 200. There's no one size fits all diet. I don't even WANT to live to be in my 90s! I want high quality of health over obscene longevity. I don't want to have the last 15 years of my life with major diabetic complications. I tried both ways of eating and the no meat camp was a total failure.
I feel I should point out that fish, eggs and dairy are not plant based. You were not on a meat-free diet.
I like my cholesterol as well. My doctor wants me to take statins but I like my brain too much so I told her, "NO"
Not to mention one of the side effects of the cholesterol medication is dementia 😫
Well done!!!!
Did anyone one else notice that Bob Harper was on the list of Low-carb influencers that died young, and isn't dead? (Also was a low-fat influencer for the entire run of the Biggest Looser)
Doc, I'm so glad you reacted to Chris's video. Unfortunately, he has a lot of fans that believe him. I listened to a few of his videos to hopefully learn something but I didn't see him use any evidence to back up what he says. I would love to see a debate between both of you. My guess is that he will not be willing to debate.
I ask him if he has the platform why not to interview Benjamin Bikman. He never replied.
@@C.Medina He us not looking for the truth, he is pushing his agenda.
My dr told me yesterday that being in ketosis for long periods isnt good for you, i said thats what yall were taught.
Sounds like they were lied to, like many others. . I hope the doc gets enlightened.
From what Bart Kay said, you don’t want to be in ketosis for long periods. You want to be in and out of ketosis a few times a day. I’m positive he said that but correct me if I’m wrong. I can’t recall which one of his videos states that but I’m sure it’s what he said.
@@kylewtslaunwhite He basically said you don't want to be in a state of deep ketosis all the time. He recommends eating once a day and eating enough protein with your meal that it spikes your insulin and brings you out of ketosis.
He has a picture of the guy from Biggest Loser dead at 50. Bob Harper is still alive and 57.
And the heart attack he had was attributed to a hereditary condition.
I Love how he ends showing all the "keto" junk food, but doesnt talk about all the "vegan" junk food. Like there are junk food in all food diets, but if he actually read those books how many of them supported eating those junk food.
I eat atkins bars not that it is healthy but I want something sweet! Don't eat the whole box or you will be on the bathroom all day the next day craping!
It's hard for me to take this guy seriously when he includes "Zyzz" (Aziz Shavershian) under the list of low carb advocates who died young. "Zyzz" was a bodybuilder who died at 22 due to a heart attack. An autopsy revealed a previously undiagnosed congenital heart defect and cardiomegaly which triggered cardiac arrest. No doubt the steroids that he was heavily using had a lot more to due with his death than his diet.
Let alone all the supplements and party drugs
I would also like to see quality of life. On a standard diet I couldn't stand up with something to help me because of psoriatic arthritis. An elimination diet improved everything a solid 80% but carnivore is bringing me up to 95%. That said, kidney stones do worry me but I like my comfort level despite this.
I never listened to vegans nor vegetarians before, they always seemed "off".
The more I listen to these sort of ppl the more I'm solidified in my way of eating.
I lost 115lbs going carnivore and I have no reason to change it.
58 years old, Progressive MS, over weight, wheelchair bound, poor sleep, bowel/bladder problems galore, no energy, falling, frequent injuries and feeling like living another 5 years was probably going to be more than I wanted to tolerate. Was eating the SAD diet, but with loads of fresh fruit and veg, salads, chicken. Completely flipped the switch. Ketogenic, fatty red meat, butter on everything, fatty coffee, homemade mayo made with avocado oil, not seed oils, whipping cream, cheese, liverwurst, etc, etc and IF. I keep my GKI numbers to where I go into a state of autophagy where it actually starts to fix the immune system, not just for weight loss. Bottom line, in less than 45 days I’m at a healthy BMI, healthy body weight; blood pressure of a healthy 20 year old, mobile, no foot drag, sleeping, energy through the roof, my HDL cholesterol is at a level where it’s protective of heart health, not just “good” and I can paddleboard again, I am getting exercise again because I have my mobility and balance back. Chronic pain in my hip and joints, from poor compensatory gait to avoid falling on my face from my foot catching/dragging all gone thanks to autophagy and keto. If I’m only going to live another 5 years then I want to live it in a state of health, not as a living corpse just waiting to die eating carbs. ❤ KETO.
Wow! What a great testimony.
Low carb diet is absolutely not dangerous, you need no corn grains or sugar at all in your diet. Fasting is the answer
TY for another calm, reasonable video. The most difficult problem with informing people is confirmation bias. We all want to hear that we're right in our beliefs. (*I have a vegetarian friend who stated recently "I haven't eaten meat in 12 years". I was horrified and saddened, but I wouldn't try to bash her over the head with nutrition information - unless she ever asks.)
Benjamin Spock didn't grow up from a baby until ninety-four a vegan. Don't tell me that BS.
I looked it up. Dr. Spock became a vegan in his late 80s!
THANK YOU TO THIS GUY FOR OUR NEW"OLD" READING LIST TO INCREASE OUR LEARNING CURVE AS TO THE PROPER HUMAN DIET!!!
I'm going to pursue the list of reading and then take Dr Westman's keto class.😊
If Keto is written on a box you can bet it ain’t Keto.
Dr. I don't listen to any one else.all I know is that I'm feeling so good. Thank you. 😊
Proper nutrition without overconsumption of sugar and calories is the way. Doesn't matter if you're vegan, paleo, or low carb. Humans evolved to eat a varied diet, so they all work. You just have to figure out what works for you.
Vegan is not a proper diet. It lacks several essential nutrients for humans to thrive.
Anyone who disagrees with the sentiment “find out what works for you” has some other agenda than your health.
Ansel keys all over again.
Corrupt, misrepresentation and intimidation.
Not to mention cherry picking data.
Graveyards are full of people who died at all ages. Living into the 70s and 80s seems like good innings compared to people who've died in their 20s or 30s regardless of the diet they ate.
This "Plant Chompers" Guy is terribly persuasive. It seems that plant based diet helped him with some health problem and he feels that it is a solution for all the world. However, my experiments with plant based food were unsatisfactory. Aaaaaand I happen to know a little physiology. BTW, the fact that most of the people he mentioned died in their seventies certainly do not make keto diets a terrible risk that he implies it is. I have never ever heard of a vegan that lived over 100. Also, as a MD I have seen how epidemiological studies are done. "Plant Chompers" Guy has a lot of things to learn. (not that he'll ever want to)
Even in Okinawa, one of the honored Blue Zones, they studied centenarians.They could not find a single centenarian who was vegetarian.😄😄😄😄
Fun fact The plant chomper is 32 years old😅😅😅.
@@ActivateMission2ThisTimeline Whoa! The guy definitely looks older!
@@bahba9247 he is 69 or thereabouts
@@defeqel6537 Oh, ok. 😄
I love your react podcast you do an incredible job thanks from Toronto Canada
17:53 He wants a second opinion from a career anthropologist? Chris undoubtedly knows about the work of Dr Miki Ben-Dor from Tel-Aviv University who is OPENLY INSISTENT that the historically accurate diet of ancient humans is animal based. And he is far from the only one. If Chris is suggesting that he is having trouble finding anthropologists who are convinced meat is the ancestral human diet, he is simply being dishonest.
Interesting topic. I cut way back on carbs and now feel way better. Lower blood sugar, less weight, and just better overall health. Now I wonder if better health will cause me to live a shorter life. Hm, maybe I should start eating more carbs again, and, and, and, --- naaa, I think that I will stick to a low carb diet and keep improving my health. Thank you Dr. Westman.
I feel like the people who died young were also people who smoked, drank, and maybe they weren't fully honest on what they ate. They could've been eating Crisco and other industrial oils as well. also, I think I really started going into ketosis 24 hours after starting keto. I could even smell it! I kept an eye on my symptoms to make sure I didn't start feeling like I was suffocating or anything, and I felt pretty good overall despite the smell, but I did find it weird. It went away after maybe a week.
I appreciate these videos. They help people that are new to the Ketogenic lifestyle. Someone like me thats been doing it for 4 years, sees this, and I am like "More Lies!" and I don't even watch it. However, some people have been lied too for so long about their diet that the will find it easier to go back to believing the lie. Being low carb had healed my body, but it doesn't make me super human. I could still get hit by a bus or have a car accident, or get an infection.
Yeah, but if you do get an infection, your immune system won’t be busy trying to get rid of excess sugar, so it will be able to address the infection.
We live in the age of the self- entitled lie. It's in our politics, diets and education.
Thank you for your reaction podcasts. 😂 you clearly articulate your thoughts.
If diet improves one's quality of life, it is successful diet. How long is one going to live does not matter as that is in God's hands anyway.
Thank you, Dr. Westman! Let us do Good Science! Let us use Strong Evidence. Oh, and trust yourself as you get healthier on keto!
I lost 100 pounds on Keto in 5 months in 2016. It probably saved me from diabetes. I went off it for a few years and gained it all back. I'm back on it and plan on losing it all again. It's okay to call it YoYo but my argument is; Is it more healthy to just stay obese? Donuts make life more bearable.
@Andromeda garbage is what is available. The time I spent in the diet was over a summer I didn't have to work. I was able to cook 95% of my meals. Working prevents me from maintaining the diet. I have to adapt to not being able to eat daily. Today I went to a restaurant and tried to order something but of course the meal arrived containing potatoes which I specifically asked to replace with an egg. Very specifically; after attempting to explain the idea. Of course I ate it and was thankful for the meal but later on I had a bit of an emergency. Not a good scene.
We should gather a list of vegans who died young. Same logic, or lack thereof.
Too many nuances. Carnivores have died young as well. Without a controlled environment we will never know. We can always find people, even in blue zones that have died young.
@@DrAJ_LatinAmerica that's my whole point, it's not a sound way of establishing a conclusion.
It's so easy to cherry pick data to suit your needs. That's what Keys did with his junk science.
@@boink800 that is what Everyone does. No long term RCT'S proving anything for diet. None for vegan, keto or carnivore. We know what works in the clinic for "most" people, as nothing works for everyone. However no one has proof over long term. That is why so much debate. No one debates 2+2 is 4. It is reversible, repeatable and can be broken down and still, same answer. Nutrition science not as cut and dry.
it's not all about longevity -- let's not forget about quality of life! if eating low carb shaves a few years off of my life, that's fine. at least i'm living my best, pain-free, disease-free life while i'm still here, lol.
Since I started eating high fat low carb, I will eat up to maybe 20 to 60grams of carbs a day, my triglycerides are in the 40's on my last blood check, HDL went up by 20, LDL went up by 9, over all 220's. Very good, I feel better and acid reflux is pretty much 98% gone and I fast for at least 12 hours a day. I will check for Ketones, and it shows I have some most of the time.
All I know is that I feel sick and get fat and lethargic on high carb, plant based or not. My blood pressure rises and health markers are terrible. On low carb all of that changes. I can maintain a healthy weight and the health markers all look good.
I like the idea of the course. I've learned so much on youtube and read so many books, I don't think I'd learn very much. I also would like to avoid the price for this course - but is there a community I could join for a lower price??
Dr. Richard Bernstein turns 90 soon. Less than 30 grams total (not net) carbs per day since the 80's.
But this is a silly argument. Singling out the absolute number of "influencers" is an absurd thing to do. Is there any reason to expect there are the same number of vegan influencers as Low-Carbers? This is farcical.
Vegetarianism is an extreme diet. The veges I know have multiple problems.. sleep not good, rashes, women have hormonal and cycle problems, they look pale and sick, big drops in energy so hangry alot, eating ALL the time and snacking constantly.
They think this is healthy.
Went keto carnivore some months back and feel way better. Sleep like the dead. Rashes on my legs are gone. No brain fog. No drop in energy ie. no hangries anymore. I eat so infrequently. Boundless energy. Dropped weight and put on muscle. Recovery time from exercise is crazy short, and healing so much faster.
At 62 this way of eating for me is the way to go.
Love these vids,
Thanks Doc!
Authors die young, I get it now. Thank you, Dr Westman.
Right. Don't write, right? LOL
Astute observation warranting further study.
Yes, this sounds like a real problem. They should do that study that doesn't mean anything.
good content, thanks. might want to change the autofocus settings on your camera, a spot focus setting might be helpful.
YES, stress is a major factor. Air pollution, smog, vehicle exhaust, contaminated drinking water, over consumption of over-the-counter medicine...... Yes the amount of nuances is incredible. If all sides could join forces to first get rid of the junk processed foods.
I like the point you were getting to near the end ... 31st minute ... the remote and easily confounded causes of longevity are dietary choices. The proximate and measurable causes are... inflammation, blood pressure, blood sugar levels, HDL, Triglycerides, LDL (suitably broken down), and the like. If a diet produces great numbers regarding those traits, what does it matter the food choice that produces them?
Keto versus vegan debate??? Id call it a war, so let's get the vegan popcorn with bacon sauce out. (I'll stick to good old fashioned omnivore for now 😂)
Sugar is added to the formula when making alcohol drinks. This sugar makes the yeast activity of making the alcohol to ferment and get bubbly and foamy.
I’m following a girl in her 30’s who is a vegan and she has stage 4 non smoking lung cancer which has spread. So I would like to ask this Chris to explain how she got cancer being a vegan??!
What are your thoughts and concerns on Insulin Resistance and it's being a prediabetes marker? And how accurate is HOMA-IR in asserting a person's IR?
Why do all vegans attacking the keto diet look like Kermit the Frog? 😂
What kind of stupid reasoning is this? Why is he not saying the reason of death? Maybe a cancer that run in family, accident, infection? How on earth this dude thinks people will give up on keto because people who advocated the diet in the past died at 85 but not at 110?
I’m really enjoying your content. A random thing that I found really distracting is that the light source in your room highlighted the right side of your face from my watching perspective but your background had the light source on the left. I know that’s a really strange complaint but I just couldn’t get the incongruity out of my mind to concentrate on the message.
Remember, If you died in a car accident, it was Covid 19.
I was eating a diet of processed crap and felt horrible riddled with inflammation. The inflammation made my body not like vegetables. I didnt have any problems with meat/protein and fats. Once i got rid of the crap and was keto for about a month i was able to bring back vegetables. If i had gone vegan i would have been hurting because my body was too inflammed to except vegetables. Animal protein and fats are antiinflammatory for my body whereas vegetables are somewhat inflammatory regardless of what Drs and scientists say. I know my own body.
I had the same experience. I went 100% carnivore and was ok with it for 6 months but then started having joint pain and couldn't sleep. (Histimines or arachadonic acid?)
I added some veggies back and I'm better. I've since looked into the "eat right for your blood type" and I think that has worked for me, even though some experts say it's ridiculous.
No one will change my mind on keto. I do wonder sometimes if fruit and starches are terrible or if it’s just processed crap itself but I’m not taking the chance. I’ve never felt better on keto.
The chomper surely never meet Indonesian and/or live in Indonesia who's most of Indonesian believe death is only about a time which destined differently to every person. ☺️ Always a nice responded from dr Eric Westman The Wiseman. Greetings from Jakarta, Indonesia.
Thank god for people like you Eric 👍❤️
This guy’s dad died of alcoholism and he blamed the Atkins diet. When you see this video through that lens it makes sense
Dr. Westman would you turn off the auto focus? Your handsome mug keeps sliding out of focus 😊
I bet how much junk food you eat is a better indicator of longevity than which diet you subscribe to. I enjoy both your channel and Chris’s and your united emphasis on eating real food rather than the factory produced stuff that people fill their carts with in the supermarket.
Thank You Dr Westman... 😊 👍 A "Persuasive Non-Scientific Point of View..." THAT is what is properly called "Philosophy".. It is the Mental Technique that Aristotle used to "PROVE" that The Earth is STATIONARY and that The Sun Orbits The Earth.. And - We Can ALL SEE How 'well' that turned out... -StayWell Everyone -70SomethingGuy
Bottom line, Do what works for you. Intermittent fasting 18/6, carnivore diet, occasional berries works for me.
I’ve had brain fog since my late 20’s. The kinda fog that seems like your not really 100% on you game till sometime around noon. Of course I ate whatever I wanted and was 50 pounds so overweight. About 5 years ago I started eating relatively keto and started dropping a few pounds and the brain fog literally disappears. I found keto and thought what the heck. I’ll eat a modified version of it since I love berries, cabbage, broccoli, and cauliflower. Do I eat over 20-30 carbs some days. Yes, but the next day I’m right back to eating right.
What wrong with passing at 82 or 79? Looks pretty solid for me. Can we check on vegan authors passing age trend?
I have been on a ketogenic diet and it brought my TG/HDL ratio down to 1.2, with a 20lb weight loss. So for me, it worked but I am trying a HQLC diet for comparison.
What is HQLC?
@@stepheneverhardt4731 I am guessing but High Quality Low Carbohydrate diet. Maybe?
@@stepheneverhardt4731 High Quality Low Carb.....Proteins and fat primarily from vegetables, de-emphasizing refined carbs, but allowing whole grains and fruit. Here's a link: ruclips.net/video/GeL7_0FgsfQ/видео.html
Thank you for your reply.
Pulling apart Chris’s bias. Cheers
Runners die. I guess no one should run ever. 🙄
It’s all about who you trust…and this is at the root of this on-going RUclips nutrition dilemma for so very many. I happen to trust the scientific approach of your good self…and it’s clear that you’re very well aware of this never-ending “Tug of War” that is so confusing for so many of us watching and trying to self-educate.
His hoodie says ,”Maybe broccoli 🥦 doesn’t like you either.” 🤔
So dumb.