About as gritty a combat movie you will ever see. Scott was brilliant in his direction. You feel that you are right in the middle of the fighting. American soldiers. The best. Sizemore, one of the best character actors, puts in a great performance.
23:10 In real life, gunships *did* provide air cover for the Durant crash site. It was only when these gunships ran out of ammo that the site was overrun.
Hearing your comments on the great formation flying by the choppers, I'm told that many of the pilots from the 160th SOAR (special operations air regment, 'The night stalkers') who flew the mission in Somalia also flew the choppers for this movie.
They did. Also the little bird pilot for star 4-1 that landed at the first crash site to drop off medics and rescue the 1 survivor was the actual pilot of that helicopter that landed at that site
I was skipping a bit a bit so I don't know if you realised you also see Atto (George Harris) in Layer Cake a month ago. He's been in loads of stuff, but mostly I think of him as Katanga in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
In regards to Sanderson's grenade throw, that actually happened. I believe it was Delta Sergeant Paul Howe that made the throw. One thing I love about this movie is that many of the pilots used in the film were in the actual battle. Chief Warrant Officer Keith Jones, pilot of Star 4-1, recreated his rescue of Delta Sergeant Daniel Busch from the 6-1 crash site. One thing they changed was that only Durant survived the 6-4 crash. In reality, everyone survived and defended the crash until Shugart and Gordon were dropped in. There was a third Delta sniper with them, Sergeant Brad Halling, but he was manning a minigun after the crew chief was wounded. An RPG hit Super 6-2 and took off half of his right leg.
Could have been more accurate, but I'm not complaining. The combat scenes are super accurate. I'd imagine that's literally how it was during the battle
@@captainbroadyyeah the energy and momentum was accurate but they changed some things for little to know reason. Roping a whole chalk takes ten seconds. Blackburn takes over a minute to exit. Didn't really convey the momentum there. Difficulties and confusion loading the trucks was changed to a planned five minute delay. Sure it didn't change much but that's not how it happened so why portray it that way?
@@Roddy556 well, it's a movie. If it followed the actual story it wouldn't be "as entertaining". I'm glad it followed the material quite closely though (except, for example, neglecting to mention the accuracy of the role of the Malaysians and Pakistani, and also exaggerating the Mogadishu Mile at the end)
@captainbroady I do feel it is an excellent and very well made movie overall so these are minor critiques. I understand the omissions and compressing things but the fast rope scene bugs me. The movie feels quite realistic/authentic over all but when Eversmann and Blackburn are the last two in the helicopter they don't have goggles on, they're stopping to chat and dick around. It's like a scene from an 80's action movie. Not a director but if it were me I would have done an establishing shot of the guy grabbing the rope ahead of Blackburn to show how rabidly they had to exit. Follow that with a brief passing interaction between the two of them, maybe a clap on the back or Go!Go!Go! Make sure to show to show how nervous Blackburn looks. Then you could show him trying to move and catch a toe/swing out too far/miss a hand over hand or whatever, a bit of panicked flailing to get the audiences heartrate up and he's gone. They could have also left the actual cause of the fall a bit unclear because that would have worked well with the medic and Col. McKnight trying to get an explanation of what happened and the audience would be just as confused and be more immersed in the fog of war. Plus Hoot later says it doesn't matter why someone falls out of a chopper. If you're still reading this wall of text thanks. I probably overthought that a lot over the years but I felt it would still be equally "entertaining", it would more accurately represent real fast roping techniques, and that part of the audience that really wants the movie to be as true to life is possible gets that, which is also a marketing angle.
@captainbroady I do have to say they nailed the exposition of the story which is often done poorly in other movies and is really cringy. There is a huge amount of information conveyed to the audience and it is all feels very organic. It may not be exactly true to life but the briefings, the conversations in the command center, the radio calls, on screen text, names written on helmets, and overall just really good writing and acting made it all work well.
You guys wondered about the vulnerability of the helicopters, but the idea of using RPGs to attack them was a new thing at that time. The first time Aidid's forces managed to shoot down a Blackhawk was about a week before the battle in this movie, and it was the result of a new tactic being tested to attack the Blackhawks by forming squads equipped with several RPG launchers, and using massed fire to take down the choppers. Once Aidid saw he could do it that way once, the tactic was adopted much more widely, and that is what led to the multiple helos being downed. The main reason why the helos had to hover was because the troops on the ground depended on the firepower of their door guns to hold back the Somalis. You also wondered why they did not have a tank or something to lead the convoy and make a path, but there were multiple reasons why that would not have worked. First, it would have slowed them down a lot to follow an armored vehicle, and the entire operation was based on speed. Also, once you get a tank in a city, it is actually much more vulnerable than speedy and maneuverable vehicles that can get out of trouble fast...any armored vehicle they brought would have just been pelted with RPGs until it was immobilized, and then you have the same situation as the crashed helos. Most of all, pretty much all the heavy firepower that they might have been able to bring they were not allowed to bring...no tanks or helicopter gunships or the AC-130 gunships that were mentioned...none of that was allowed to them by the National Command Authority at the time.
@@staffakartherma3303 Angola too! The South African accounts said that, during those cross border raids against guerilla bases in Angola, those RPG rounds just flew up by the score; there were so many warheads 'airbursting', it looked like 'The skies over Berlin during WW2'. I don't think the South Africans lost any choppers to the RPG fire, but it was very intense
The helicpter pilots in this film belong to the 160th SOAR. The actual pilot unit that flew in this mission. That is why they are so good. The 160th SOAR is a special operations helicopter unit. They know what their doing.
This is one of those movies that fully immerses you into the situation of the protagonists. Its one of the first films that while watching it, I kept forgetting its a movie that I'm seeing. So good, yet so painful to sit through. Keep up the great work guys, love your input & observations.
Responding to some of your comments: I was a turret gunner in Iraq almost 15 years ago. It is a tough spot, you're silhouetted with less cover than anyone else. The Army has gone to a system where you can control the crew-served gun on top from the inside of the vehicle. The helicopter pilots in the movie and in real life are phenomenal. In Somalia, it was the 160th SOAR (aviation special operations, best of the best). I've ridden conventional on blackhawks/chinooks a ton, but the best ride I ever had was 1 time in a Little Bird (the small helicopters the Delta guys hang out of in the movie). I was nowhere as cool as them, but the pilot was so smooth flying it NAP (near-as-possible) to the earth, hovering 2 feet above the ground going 50 mph hopping over fencelines/treelines. Those pilots are amazing, it was a rush.
Major said it correctly. when it comes to Delta. "These guys are just built different." Been around three who passed the selection course and one who missed it by a hair (the instructors figured out he was color blind, but being an innovator who didn't believe in quitting, he'd found a way to cheat on the first test they gave him). One of the three that went on to be an operator in the unit, I'm told by an unimpeachable mutual acquaintance, is the model for the William Fichtner. character. Well before Mogadishu, he was an impressive guy. Quiet, neck like a bull, could run all day, and just didn't believe in giving up, ever. They are just different.
Having a young kid bleed out in front of you and hear them talk about what they want their parents to know as he’s dying and being told that you will not be able to get any support or a medicvac has to be the most soul crushing thing ever. Great movie, I feel like with just a short amount of time, they were able to get that emotion in the film.
Tom Sizemore was in this movie too, very good role he played, as the lieutenant of the caravan of land vehicles, unfortunately the actor died a few months ago at a still young age, I think he was 61 years old.
Saw it three times lol. I was the first person in my town to enter the theatre. I remember an older couple getting up and leaving the first time a mini gun was used.
What most people don't know and you guys probably don't know is that DEVGRU or SEAL Team 6 were their to. One of them said he had to bribe a fishermen to get back to safety.
I was 19 years old and in Army ROTC in October 1993. My Ranger Battalion watched the news and saw this event and its aftermath. We were convinced the US Army was going to respond. Weeks later the president pulled all forces out of Somalia. I was just a kid, but I really felt like he betrayed every one of those soldiers. I still get chills whenever I watch this movie, to be honest, but I am a lot more mature than I was back then and I can understand why things happened the way they did.
and guess who was the president at the time..yep bill clinton..its all bill fault him and hillary is at fault they denied air support and other support..just like hillary did in Benghazi.."he" that you were refering to didnt betray anybody..he was doing his job
I remember having one of the most conflicted reactions watching this in the cinema. Just after “Irene” when Jimi Hendrix kicks in I shuffled back into my seat waiting for the action to start and had a flashback to seeing the bodies from super six-four on the news after the actual event. I don’t think I’ve ever felt guilty in a cinema before or after, but my frame of mind completely changed.
Btw the guys flying the helicopters were from the 160th Special operations aviation regiment, aka the nightstalkers. Many of the pilots had actually participated in the battle. Edit to add - one thing I miss from the dvd days are commentaries, if you get the chance particularly listen to the one from the military personnel who were there.
yep, those of us who saw it on the news will never forget the bodies of the americans being paraded around.. and the movie giving it more context made it a lot more powerful for me
2 things. I absolutely agree, because I have my own remembrances of the event, and cannot watch this movie even today without crying during the "Mogadishu Mile". Second, not to be "That Guy", but as a born-and-bred Texan, I have to point out that this was Stevie Ray Vaughan, not Jimi.
Shields for the turret gunners were available but weren't used for some reason. It could have been worse: they almost took the doors off of the hummers that morning, too, to make it easier to get in and out. There were one or two open hummers, like dune buggies, as well, one of them was carrying a few SEALs. Gunships were suppporting the Super 64 crash site. The Blackhawk that dropped the Delta men was one of them. It was hit by an RPG that very nearly caused it to crash and took the leg off of a Delta operator who had remained on board to work a minigun. The SAR chopper also almost crashed from its damage and I think was grounded. A resupply chopper did fly in to the first crash site after dark. It dropped off supplies (though much of the water was lost) but was unable to pick up the wounded man. As it was, that chopper was also very nearly shot down and I think was also grounded.
@@majormoviemadness9927 No, they didn't. There was concern in DC about collateral damage from using them, and they wanted to keep a small footprint for the mission. There are some claims that one or two were in Kenya but that may or may not be true, of this could have been after the events of the movie during the last weeks of the mission. Had they been sent it would have made sense too base them in Kenya or Djibouti even though these were a long flight away. This is because the Mogadishu airport was on low ground and highly visible to the rest of the city since it was on rising ground as it went away from the coast. The Rangers got mortared regularly as it was, ineffectively until after these events, but big planes like AC 130s probably would have drawn extra attention on that airfield.
Excellent reaction to an excellent movie. It does a fantastic job of telling the story of this event, and the movie making - from the lighting to the camera work - is exceptionally good.
8:27 AHB-dee …. Ok now that I feel better. Can we talk about the SCORE??!!? Easily in my top 5 and I’ve been listening to OSTs for 30 years. Zimmer is a force of nature
How nice were the 80s, 90s and early 2000s, when in the movies there was very little CGI and where 90% of the elements were real, like all those helicopters and war vehicles, today almost no one produces such a display, everything was replaced by CGI, maybe Nolan or George Miller, still filming like in the old days, even Michael Bay is from that old school and we can still see those production displays in his big budget movies.
There's actually quite a bit of cgi and compositing in Blackhawk down, but the quality and seemlessness is so much better than it is today. Even after seeing this movie a dozen times, when Super-61 is shot down, I can't tell what parts are real, when they're using models or what's composite or where the cgi is even though I know it was all used for the crash of Walcott's bird.
@@rsrt6910i agree. There is some CGI but its meshed with real world elements. Theres no completely green/blue screen CGI scenes. Any cgi that was used was used in a smart and seamless way. I think that's how it should be.
This is one of my all time favorite movies. This film made me do tons of research on this incident ever since I was a kid. I've watched the documentaries the interviews with soldiers that were there the news footage of the incident And even mapped out and looked at the entire route on google maps. I even got the video game
Very cool reaction. It's always nice to get those little insights to details I may have missed in movies like this. One thing I've always wondered about is the choice of color grading in this movie; specifically the green color grading which was pretty prominent throughout the film especially at night. What did that entail and/or symbolize? I have my suspicions, but I'd be really curious what you guys think.
There's a youtube channel called Operations Room, it's a little more detailed as far as map, and troop movement, there was helicopter support for Suggart and Gordon, but I guess there was just too many combatants
Just a note on your "cover image," it appears that you are saluting with your left hand. Normally, salutes are given with the right hand. It may have just been a result of mirroring the image. No criticism intended. Cheers!
What's really frustrating about the rescue mission Is that the pakistanis in their tanks turned around and left as soon as they got shot at. The malaysians stayed with their a p c's And help rescue the americans. Sorry if any spelling is off of using voice text and it is horrible.
The problem with tanks is that tanks aren't great in cities. Every strength tank has going for it is stripped away in urban environment, they're vulnerable to RPG's too and armor isn't gonna do much when fire starts coming from above. And once you lose a tank, well, it's just another thing you have to blow up. They blew up the helis, they'd have to demolish a tank too.
Has he always been part of the intro? I expect the chap from _The Bridge on the River Kwai_ to pop up but seeing Vyv was a surprise and he seems a little out of place compared to all the other iconic characters of the silver screen.
Well I find him iconic, but my intention of using that image was to suggest something of the British “piss off” spirit we’ve gone to admire. But I’m also a huge fan of that show. And “Bottom”
@@SJHD Kobe could have never scene MJ play and still be an amazing basketball player. Seeing someone do a thing doesn't make you good at the thing. it can inform how you become better at a thing. But you can inherently be a thing even withstanding other people having done the thing.
Well if you’d watched, which clearly you didn’t, you’d have noticed that I have seen this (20 times) and most of the films. Major my counterpart has not. And I don’t think you need to have watched all these films to be a film maker, since making films is about making them and not watching them, but watching them helps that’s the last I’ll say on this
@@SJHD what if you are good at basketball and you never knew that the NBA existed. I was a young sir, then first a Photographer, then second a Cinematographer.. We all grow as we learn. And we will forever be learning.
"They're like SEALs... but they don't talk about it."
- Best RUclips description of Delta yet.
It's like coachella... but with guns.
Delta is better than the regular seal teams lol devgru (seal team 6) is the only seal team comparable to delta.
This is how directors like Ridley Scott establish a reputation for greatness. He is consistent from The Duelists on.
Legit master
About as gritty a combat movie you will ever see. Scott was brilliant in his direction. You feel that you are right in the middle of the fighting. American soldiers. The best. Sizemore, one of the best character actors, puts in a great performance.
I was in Somalia for 2 deployments and this film really captured the look and feel.
Minus all the West Africans 😜 … ok on a serious note thank you for your service ❤️🇺🇸
Funny because people who have never been there said it was not accurate lol
23:10 In real life, gunships *did* provide air cover for the Durant crash site. It was only when these gunships ran out of ammo that the site was overrun.
The soldier that got friendly fire shot it is Tom Guiry, kid from The Sandlot
Hearing your comments on the great formation flying by the choppers, I'm told that many of the pilots from the 160th SOAR (special operations air regment, 'The night stalkers') who flew the mission in Somalia also flew the choppers for this movie.
They did. Also the little bird pilot for star 4-1 that landed at the first crash site to drop off medics and rescue the 1 survivor was the actual pilot of that helicopter that landed at that site
That scene of them running out is called The Mogadishu Mile. It's a training exercise that many units use now based of this battle
The Outpost would be a good watch. Not quite at this level but still excellent; very intense, good performances, etc.
I was skipping a bit a bit so I don't know if you realised you also see Atto (George Harris) in Layer Cake a month ago.
He's been in loads of stuff, but mostly I think of him as Katanga in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Oooh very very nice catch
The 160th SOAR, the helicopter unit that flies special forces, actually did all the flying for this movie. That’s why it looks so good.
In regards to Sanderson's grenade throw, that actually happened. I believe it was Delta Sergeant Paul Howe that made the throw. One thing I love about this movie is that many of the pilots used in the film were in the actual battle. Chief Warrant Officer Keith Jones, pilot of Star 4-1, recreated his rescue of Delta Sergeant Daniel Busch from the 6-1 crash site.
One thing they changed was that only Durant survived the 6-4 crash. In reality, everyone survived and defended the crash until Shugart and Gordon were dropped in. There was a third Delta sniper with them, Sergeant Brad Halling, but he was manning a minigun after the crew chief was wounded. An RPG hit Super 6-2 and took off half of his right leg.
The amount of detail they managed to bring into the movie from the book is amazing. Truly an accomplishment in cinema.
Could have been more accurate, but I'm not complaining. The combat scenes are super accurate. I'd imagine that's literally how it was during the battle
@@captainbroadyyeah the energy and momentum was accurate but they changed some things for little to know reason.
Roping a whole chalk takes ten seconds. Blackburn takes over a minute to exit. Didn't really convey the momentum there.
Difficulties and confusion loading the trucks was changed to a planned five minute delay. Sure it didn't change much but that's not how it happened so why portray it that way?
@@Roddy556 well, it's a movie. If it followed the actual story it wouldn't be "as entertaining". I'm glad it followed the material quite closely though (except, for example, neglecting to mention the accuracy of the role of the Malaysians and Pakistani, and also exaggerating the Mogadishu Mile at the end)
@captainbroady I do feel it is an excellent and very well made movie overall so these are minor critiques. I understand the omissions and compressing things but the fast rope scene bugs me.
The movie feels quite realistic/authentic over all but when Eversmann and Blackburn are the last two in the helicopter they don't have goggles on, they're stopping to chat and dick around. It's like a scene from an 80's action movie.
Not a director but if it were me I would have done an establishing shot of the guy grabbing the rope ahead of Blackburn to show how rabidly they had to exit. Follow that with a brief passing interaction between the two of them, maybe a clap on the back or Go!Go!Go! Make sure to show to show how nervous Blackburn looks. Then you could show him trying to move and catch a toe/swing out too far/miss a hand over hand or whatever, a bit of panicked flailing to get the audiences heartrate up and he's gone.
They could have also left the actual cause of the fall a bit unclear because that would have worked well with the medic and Col. McKnight trying to get an explanation of what happened and the audience would be just as confused and be more immersed in the fog of war. Plus Hoot later says it doesn't matter why someone falls out of a chopper.
If you're still reading this wall of text thanks. I probably overthought that a lot over the years but I felt it would still be equally "entertaining", it would more accurately represent real fast roping techniques, and that part of the audience that really wants the movie to be as true to life is possible gets that, which is also a marketing angle.
@captainbroady I do have to say they nailed the exposition of the story which is often done poorly in other movies and is really cringy.
There is a huge amount of information conveyed to the audience and it is all feels very organic. It may not be exactly true to life but the briefings, the conversations in the command center, the radio calls, on screen text, names written on helmets, and overall just really good writing and acting made it all work well.
You guys wondered about the vulnerability of the helicopters, but the idea of using RPGs to attack them was a new thing at that time. The first time Aidid's forces managed to shoot down a Blackhawk was about a week before the battle in this movie, and it was the result of a new tactic being tested to attack the Blackhawks by forming squads equipped with several RPG launchers, and using massed fire to take down the choppers. Once Aidid saw he could do it that way once, the tactic was adopted much more widely, and that is what led to the multiple helos being downed. The main reason why the helos had to hover was because the troops on the ground depended on the firepower of their door guns to hold back the Somalis.
You also wondered why they did not have a tank or something to lead the convoy and make a path, but there were multiple reasons why that would not have worked. First, it would have slowed them down a lot to follow an armored vehicle, and the entire operation was based on speed. Also, once you get a tank in a city, it is actually much more vulnerable than speedy and maneuverable vehicles that can get out of trouble fast...any armored vehicle they brought would have just been pelted with RPGs until it was immobilized, and then you have the same situation as the crashed helos. Most of all, pretty much all the heavy firepower that they might have been able to bring they were not allowed to bring...no tanks or helicopter gunships or the AC-130 gunships that were mentioned...none of that was allowed to them by the National Command Authority at the time.
Spot on, with one minor correction: The use of RPGs to take down helicopters was first noted during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
@@staffakartherma3303 Angola too! The South African accounts said that, during those cross border raids against guerilla bases in Angola, those RPG rounds just flew up by the score; there were so many warheads 'airbursting', it looked like 'The skies over Berlin during WW2'.
I don't think the South Africans lost any choppers to the RPG fire, but it was very intense
The helicpter pilots in this film belong to the 160th SOAR. The actual pilot unit that flew in this mission. That is why they are so good. The 160th SOAR is a special operations helicopter unit. They know what their doing.
This is one of those movies that fully immerses you into the situation of the protagonists. Its one of the first films that while watching it, I kept forgetting its a movie that I'm seeing. So good, yet so painful to sit through. Keep up the great work guys, love your input & observations.
Responding to some of your comments: I was a turret gunner in Iraq almost 15 years ago. It is a tough spot, you're silhouetted with less cover than anyone else. The Army has gone to a system where you can control the crew-served gun on top from the inside of the vehicle.
The helicopter pilots in the movie and in real life are phenomenal. In Somalia, it was the 160th SOAR (aviation special operations, best of the best). I've ridden conventional on blackhawks/chinooks a ton, but the best ride I ever had was 1 time in a Little Bird (the small helicopters the Delta guys hang out of in the movie). I was nowhere as cool as them, but the pilot was so smooth flying it NAP (near-as-possible) to the earth, hovering 2 feet above the ground going 50 mph hopping over fencelines/treelines. Those pilots are amazing, it was a rush.
NSDQ!
Major said it correctly. when it comes to Delta. "These guys are just built different." Been around three who passed the selection course and one who missed it by a hair (the instructors figured out he was color blind, but being an innovator who didn't believe in quitting, he'd found a way to cheat on the first test they gave him). One of the three that went on to be an operator in the unit, I'm told by an unimpeachable mutual acquaintance, is the model for the William Fichtner. character. Well before Mogadishu, he was an impressive guy. Quiet, neck like a bull, could run all day, and just didn't believe in giving up, ever. They are just different.
"Southern accents" came from a part of England, so Brits have heard them before, and probably imitated them before.
Having a young kid bleed out in front of you and hear them talk about what they want their parents to know as he’s dying and being told that you will not be able to get any support or a medicvac has to be the most soul crushing thing ever. Great movie, I feel like with just a short amount of time, they were able to get that emotion in the film.
Tom Sizemore was in this movie too, very good role he played, as the lieutenant of the caravan of land vehicles, unfortunately the actor died a few months ago at a still young age, I think he was 61 years old.
Was lucky enough to see this at the cinema on its release. Amazing on the big screen
Saw it three times lol. I was the first person in my town to enter the theatre. I remember an older couple getting up and leaving the first time a mini gun was used.
What most people don't know and you guys probably don't know is that DEVGRU or SEAL Team 6 were their to. One of them said he had to bribe a fishermen to get back to safety.
They deployed a sniper element as part of the Task Force.
I was 19 years old and in Army ROTC in October 1993. My Ranger Battalion watched the news and saw this event and its aftermath. We were convinced the US Army was going to respond. Weeks later the president pulled all forces out of Somalia. I was just a kid, but I really felt like he betrayed every one of those soldiers.
I still get chills whenever I watch this movie, to be honest, but I am a lot more mature than I was back then and I can understand why things happened the way they did.
and guess who was the president at the time..yep bill clinton..its all bill fault him and hillary is at fault they denied air support and other support..just like hillary did in Benghazi.."he" that you were refering to didnt betray anybody..he was doing his job
Tremendous movie, but the book Black Hawk Down is DEFINITELY worth a read........(might even be better than movie). Thanks for posting.
Generation Kill you guys would love
I remember having one of the most conflicted reactions watching this in the cinema. Just after “Irene” when Jimi Hendrix kicks in I shuffled back into my seat waiting for the action to start and had a flashback to seeing the bodies from super six-four on the news after the actual event. I don’t think I’ve ever felt guilty in a cinema before or after, but my frame of mind completely changed.
Btw the guys flying the helicopters were from the 160th Special operations aviation regiment, aka the nightstalkers. Many of the pilots had actually participated in the battle.
Edit to add - one thing I miss from the dvd days are commentaries, if you get the chance particularly listen to the one from the military personnel who were there.
I like the gun ho, kick some ass, blow everything to pieces mentality the movie has. It feels very American. Despite being directed by an Englishman.
yep, those of us who saw it on the news will never forget the bodies of the americans being paraded around.. and the movie giving it more context made it a lot more powerful for me
2 things.
I absolutely agree, because I have my own remembrances of the event, and cannot watch this movie even today without crying during the "Mogadishu Mile".
Second, not to be "That Guy", but as a born-and-bred Texan, I have to point out that this was Stevie Ray Vaughan, not Jimi.
That wasn't Jimi. It was Stevie Ray.
Very good film and reaction. One of the few films that has a lot of action that i enjoyed even more on my second viewing.
mr eto was the big guy in layer cake,so many british actors,even the guy with the plaster on his arm is mathew marsden,mr eto is also british.
Shields for the turret gunners were available but weren't used for some reason. It could have been worse: they almost took the doors off of the hummers that morning, too, to make it easier to get in and out. There were one or two open hummers, like dune buggies, as well, one of them was carrying a few SEALs.
Gunships were suppporting the Super 64 crash site. The Blackhawk that dropped the Delta men was one of them. It was hit by an RPG that very nearly caused it to crash and took the leg off of a Delta operator who had remained on board to work a minigun.
The SAR chopper also almost crashed from its damage and I think was grounded.
A resupply chopper did fly in to the first crash site after dark. It dropped off supplies (though much of the water was lost) but was unable to pick up the wounded man. As it was, that chopper was also very nearly shot down and I think was also grounded.
Did ac 130s ever get deployed?
@@majormoviemadness9927 No, they didn't. There was concern in DC about collateral damage from using them, and they wanted to keep a small footprint for the mission. There are some claims that one or two were in Kenya but that may or may not be true, of this could have been after the events of the movie during the last weeks of the mission.
Had they been sent it would have made sense too base them in Kenya or Djibouti even though these were a long flight away. This is because the Mogadishu airport was on low ground and highly visible to the rest of the city since it was on rising ground as it went away from the coast. The Rangers got mortared regularly as it was, ineffectively until after these events, but big planes like AC 130s probably would have drawn extra attention on that airfield.
Too bad could have made a difference
Is "make a difference" in the Ranger manual?
Recommendation...you simply MUST do The Limey...Steven Soderbergh's classic from 1999...it ticks all your boxes.
great movie - great reaction. some shots reminded me a bit of sicario which might be worth reacting to too if you havent watched it yet
Such a great movie. New sub. Keep up the great work!
No mention of Tom Sizemore chaps who was fucking badass?
I think we did maybe I cut?
Excellent reaction to an excellent movie. It does a fantastic job of telling the story of this event, and the movie making - from the lighting to the camera work - is exceptionally good.
8:27 AHB-dee …. Ok now that I feel better. Can we talk about the SCORE??!!? Easily in my top 5 and I’ve been listening to OSTs for 30 years. Zimmer is a force of nature
Love your channel. Cant believe how much white guy looks like spielberg
How nice were the 80s, 90s and early 2000s, when in the movies there was very little CGI and where 90% of the elements were real, like all those helicopters and war vehicles, today almost no one produces such a display, everything was replaced by CGI, maybe Nolan or George Miller, still filming like in the old days, even Michael Bay is from that old school and we can still see those production displays in his big budget movies.
For real
There's actually quite a bit of cgi and compositing in Blackhawk down, but the quality and seemlessness is so much better than it is today.
Even after seeing this movie a dozen times, when Super-61 is shot down, I can't tell what parts are real, when they're using models or what's composite or where the cgi is even though I know it was all used for the crash of Walcott's bird.
@@rsrt6910i agree. There is some CGI but its meshed with real world elements. Theres no completely green/blue screen CGI scenes. Any cgi that was used was used in a smart and seamless way. I think that's how it should be.
This is one of my all time favorite movies. This film made me do tons of research on this incident ever since I was a kid. I've watched the documentaries the interviews with soldiers that were there the news footage of the incident And even mapped out and looked at the entire route on google maps. I even got the video game
This should have a million views. Great job guys! Please do Kingdom Of Heaven.
Very cool reaction. It's always nice to get those little insights to details I may have missed in movies like this. One thing I've always wondered about is the choice of color grading in this movie; specifically the green color grading which was pretty prominent throughout the film especially at night. What did that entail and/or symbolize? I have my suspicions, but I'd be really curious what you guys think.
I don’t think it symbolizes anything, just adds grittiness rawness to the emotional feeling it gives
The US military has a program where they will provide soldiers and equipment for movies if they put the us military in a "good" light.
Best example of modern warfare, still never bettered.
There's a youtube channel called Operations Room, it's a little more detailed as far as map, and troop movement, there was helicopter support for Suggart and Gordon, but I guess there was just too many combatants
There was airsupport for the 2nd crash site but unfortunately it was so overeun they ran out of ammo too
Great film
Good double feature with Battle LA. Just replaced Ethiopians with aliens... this one was real though.
If you ever get the chance, listen to a couple of the podcast with Kyle lamb, he was one of the Delta operators on the ground in Mogadishu.
Just a note on your "cover image," it appears that you are saluting with your left hand. Normally, salutes are given with the right hand. It may have just been a result of mirroring the image.
No criticism intended. Cheers!
The original image is flipped so I could house the characters in the right corner, no disrespect intended
Love your comments on color, camera movement, and composition.
another awesome video
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They should have had armor, but washington thought that tanks and APCs would be too much, let alone a spectre gunship
this one does not let up
What's really frustrating about the rescue mission Is that the pakistanis in their tanks turned around and left as soon as they got shot at. The malaysians stayed with their a p c's And help rescue the americans. Sorry if any spelling is off of using voice text and it is horrible.
Disappointed you talked over the Voodoo Chile segment.
Wasn’t the real voodoo Chile tho, but that sequence is so cinematic I don’t know how we couldn’t comment on its craftsmanship
Go back GI!!...
Hi guys please watch this regarding the true story of Black Hawk Down. Please watch this link for the true story #blackhawkdown #malaysia
You guys have to watch Zulu
Um you salute with your right hand....not your left like the thumbnail shows
The image is mirrored to fit us on the other side of frame
Chased out of Somalia by civilians with guns.Another defeat for the US Special Forces
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The problem with tanks is that tanks aren't great in cities.
Every strength tank has going for it is stripped away in urban environment, they're vulnerable to RPG's too and armor isn't gonna do much when fire starts coming from above.
And once you lose a tank, well, it's just another thing you have to blow up. They blew up the helis, they'd have to demolish a tank too.
Vyvyan??????
You don’t like the young ones?
Has he always been part of the intro?
I expect the chap from _The Bridge on the River Kwai_ to pop up but seeing Vyv was a surprise and he seems a little out of place compared to all the other iconic characters of the silver screen.
Well I find him iconic, but my intention of using that image was to suggest something of the British “piss off” spirit we’ve gone to admire. But I’m also a huge fan of that show. And “Bottom”
And no he hasn’t always been in, maybe last few weeks. Same as Portia
I went to see "Bottom" live for my 18th. I've still got Ade's autograph somewhere in the loft.
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Dont waste your time watching this movie.. people know malaysia armies save them.. salute for what..lol
Someone's salty.
How can you be a film maker and not have seen most of these movies?!
Jeez haven’t heard that one before
@@majormoviemadness9927 well yeah, coz it makes no god damn sense. Its like being an NBA player and being like "first time watching MJ and Kobe"
@@SJHD Kobe could have never scene MJ play and still be an amazing basketball player. Seeing someone do a thing doesn't make you good at the thing. it can inform how you become better at a thing. But you can inherently be a thing even withstanding other people having done the thing.
Well if you’d watched, which clearly you didn’t, you’d have noticed that I have seen this (20 times) and most of the films. Major my counterpart has not. And I don’t think you need to have watched all these films to be a film maker, since making films is about making them and not watching them, but watching them helps that’s the last I’ll say on this
@@SJHD what if you are good at basketball and you never knew that the NBA existed. I was a young sir, then first a Photographer, then second a Cinematographer.. We all grow as we learn. And we will forever be learning.