Thanks for the great real world review! I think both are great, I choose the D850 simply because of having the full set of Nikon glass. one point , the buffer test is a bit not fair to the D850. If you set the D850 to 12 Bit compressed RAW you will get 200 shootsbefore the buffer ends. this is the mode Sony was while you were testing it. Thanks Again ! Yair
Easily the best camera review video I've ever seen. As a landscape photographer who also shoots concerts on occasion I'd probably go with the Nikon but being that I'm already a Canon shooter the Sony would be much less of a headache to switch to. If Canon doesn't put out a truly spectacular 5DSr mark 2 soon I'm jumping ship.
I can always count on you to go over details others missed, it is great to know that camera companies competitiveness has left this decision to personal choice. That also means that they are exceeding at what they are supposed to be doing, which is bring us the best capable cameras on the market!
See from the sample images I would pick the Nikon for portraits. The Sony almost shows too much detail there. For landscapes I would go with the Sony with its advantage of being a compact lighter system
Michael I was so going to buy the D850. But then Sony came out with a7r iii before I had a chance to purchase the Nikon. If I was only doing still photos these days I would have gone with the D850. However, I shoot more and more video so I pulled the trigger on the a7r iii. No camera is perfect. The only drawbacks for me with a7r iii is the touch interface is not as good as the D850 or the 5DM4. Also I wish Sony would've had 2 UHS-II slots instead of just one. I also can't believe there is no built-in intervalometer with the a7r iii. Anyway, I'm still very pleased with the a7r iii purchase.
Having Nikon glass can be a worthy reason for staying, especially since both cameras are worthy contenders. Weight can be an issue for some, but most males 'should' be able to handle the little difference. Looking forward to the D850 once the budget is topped up!
Looks like the D850 wins out with 8. Looking to upgrade from the D750...hoping it's a worthwhile upgrade! Would use the focus stacking, as I'm doing so manually with my current setup...thus making that portion of Landscape a nice fit.
You Maven, do the BEST comparison video on RUclips, Period. The precision, the scientific reasoning, the efforts, oh God. You deserve so many more views!
A feature landscapers should take into account, is the Low ISO of the Nikon. Lloyd Chambers tested and found that Nikon's 32 ISO (Low setting) is almost identical with the 64 but with even less noise. In essence, and in my own tests, the 32 ISO puts the D850 almost into medium format performance.
I absolutely love and look forward to your Epic Shootout videos! Even when I'm not planning on getting either of the cameras you're showing, I always enjoy watching all the details you provide and your insight, so thank you so much
I am a pro photographer, have been using Nikon form D750 thru D810, I know you are canon man, Bought the D850 in Dec 2017, and Bought The A7RIII in Jan 2018, I own the same lenses you demonstrated on both cameras, I do my share of sports photography, Yes the Nikon does have the edge, I do like the colors on the D850 also, I also use the grip for the Nikon, The Sony on the other Hand. the EYE focus on the Models is Stunning, Dead On The Portraits are Awesome, The D850 Lags Big, Most of my shoots are portrait . I Love Both Cameras, I have Used the Sony A9, The A9 is NOT the same as A7RIII, NOT even similar, The Camera is Amazingly fast focusing than The D850, The Shots are Crisp, you are WRONG there, I am Glad you like Nikon D850, Yes it is FAR More superior than any canon! Overall you Did the Best Comparison , Good Job there,
When you start with "i am a pro photographer", you sound like a douche. Just get to your point we don't want to know what level of photographer you are.
I have no clue what you said. None of it makes sense. Also I don’t know many pro photogs that rely on Eye auto focus to determine which camera is better. The only thing you’re saying is “I don’t know how to focus in manual focus”
Warning: I own a D810 with weather sealing…. and in a light rain.... the answer from Nikon after over one year waiting: "the camera got wet" Nothing more.
@@alestbest - much the same as my D750, wet didn't seem to make any difference long-term in the camera whatsoever! Works every time regardless of dry or wet.
Thank you so much for your support Rubi! It meant so much to me that nearly 1000 photographers came together in that way. All of our filters were delivered!
This was awesome Michael! Absolutely love these shoot outs and was looking forward to this one! I love my Nikon D850 and will say a lot of the issues you have with the sony system is the reason why I switched from the Sony a7rII and picked up the Nikon D850!
I agree! Also one thing a lot of people dont disclose with the electronic shutter is you will have banding issues when combining artificial and ambient light such as a flash mixed with ambient light and needing to turn on the mechanical shutter but a lot of the Sony RUclips photographers dont disclose as a tip which cost me a couple shoots, thank goodness it wasnt paid work but the photos were awesome but couldnt use them. As always love the unbiased results and glad you're putting them out there!
I think this would be a good test to add to the arsenal, Ive seen it in the past on other Sonys, but I haven't included it in the Epic Shootouts and I think it is important. Ill include it in my A7iii Review. I cannot speak for the other RUclips reviewers, I do think they are trying their best, but I was disappointed with the lack of criticism I saw for the A7iii and overwhelming support and endorsements given for it for the very reason you mention. The Sony Press Events have ruined those specific camera reviews IMO because it is all consolidated now, Sony controls way too much of it and reviewers are not testing on their own. Thats the short of it.
Saweet!!!!!! I think that would be awesome to add to the arsenal! Yes I agree they are trying their best and appreciate the tips on flash photography and how they use flash but definitely think it is something that should be disclosed.
Also very much agree with the Sony reviewing of cameras and how all you hear is positive reviews and dont disclose the negatives like your shootouts with the average consumers in mind. -TJ
Not only do you have a confident appearance, you have a phenomenal way of speaking and your review is literally the best review i have seen in regards to these specific cameras. I truly appreciate how you took the images side by side instead of just offering specs an "take my word for it". I will continue to trust your judgement and watch your hands on approach with is amazing! I chose the D850 thank you.
That was a very fair an unbiased review. I have the Sony A7RIII and I love the thing. I don't have the Nikon D850 but I still have my D750 which I also love despite its many limitations when compared to the camera bodies discussed in your video. Really good review mate!
This review might be 5 years but it's still relevant today. I have a dual 850 set up and also have the A7R iii. Both are brilliant cameras and it's hard to separate them.
Wow 6 to 6. Can't decide which one I like more. Been a Nikon customer for many years. Like the touchscreen and wish Sony had the same features in the touchscreen as Nikon. Very difficult decision. Thanks for the video. Very informative.
As an owner of Nikon D750 and Sony a9, I would definitely point landscape photographer towards the a7Riii over the D850. In bright sunlight, it is almost impossible to review photos on the dim LCD, but it's pretty easy to do that with the EVF. When you have an accurate exposure, you are less dependent on the dynamic range of the camera. I can't argue about the sports shooting, but if you're shooting sports like basketball, volleyball, tennis, table tennis, golf, swimming, the current 70-200mm f/2.8 is very adequate.
I got the chance to shoot the D850 and I'm impressed with it. Couldn't really tell the difference. I would go with it for Landscapes simply coz of the lower Native ISO. I do disagree with you in terms of the glasses. But while the Nikon system has more options at the telephoto range, for the rest of the glasses, the Sony glasses are just noticeably sharper. I've tested the 85mm 24-70 and 70-200. The Sony one's are just in a different league.
I like your comparisons. Very comprehensive. I would use D5 or 1DX2 for sports because of the higher fps and only needing the jpegs anyway, D850 for landscape and with battery grip - for wildlife, because the high number of MPs allows deeper cropping. And finally - A7R3 for video, portraits, street and even photography with all that goodness of EVF, eye detect, silent shooting, crazy low light and precise video AF and IBIS. Just my 2 cents :)
Michael that A7RIII is amazing and the Nikon is not far behind . I love Nikon’s ergonomics and really dislike Sony’s . However , that Sony eye AF feature is astounding and a game changer. Eye AF alone is enough for me to consider leaving Nikon for Sony . Lastly , I prefer Nikon’s more neutral skin tones to Sony’s as Sony colors are too orange for my taste . Great comparison and you’re the best reviewer on RUclips by far .
I believe that 12 photos contest is the real tie breaker here. As owner of Nikon D800 I was thinking about switching to Sony A7R III since it's getting a lot of positive comments, but I chose 10/12 in favor of Nikon. So much for system change ;) Great review! Kudos!
I picked the Sony 7/5 in the portrait test, but I will most likely buy the Nikon because most of my shooting is wildlife, which means the lens lineup decides it for me.
Great job Micheal I work at a camera store selling these cameras and they are both great! I happen to be invested in Nikon, I own the D850 and the D500. I use my D850 for portrait and landscape I use the D500 with the Nikon 200-400mm f4 and 200-500mm for the reach I get. For video, low light, and IBIS the Sony wins your right. The person who commented below was also right about the weather sealing Sony has none and Nikon has better lens choice.
Michael, I want to thank you so very much for this unbiased review. I was undecided what Camara to with until you had the 12 photo line up. That helped me to make my decision. Thank you so much. I am subscribed to you and once I get my camera I will buy your crash course so I can learn a thing or two. Please keep making videos like this! This is by far one of the best sides by side reviews I have seen. Thank you so much Sir.
8/12 for Nikon. I have a Nikon ans some lenses and now I know I will upgrade someday to this D850. Too many people speak about Sony, but well I don't shoot video that much, and sports neither. Another important question that does not appear in coparisons, is what about the manufacturing quality and the durability, I know Nikon's are build like a tank, what about the Sonys ?
I am waiting for the time that Sony puts a fast processor in all their camera's. The buffer clearing is always the weak point, even with the A9. For portraits I think the A7RIII is better because of eye AF and a big collection of fast high quality primes like the 85/1.4 GM , 100/2.8 STF and 50/1.4 Zeiss.
Today I bought a used D850 and I feel confirmed with my decision as the differences are in the" hair splitting" category - to be honest I have to say that I already own a D750 and a nice range of excellent Nikon lenses so the cost to switch would have been kind of prohibitive. But I am glad to know by this excellent comparison that my - somewhat forced - choice is finally not a bad one. Interesting that you didn't touch on ergonomics and the weight difference but I think once you mount good (read: heavy) lenses the weight of the body is not that important more so because I'm mostly interested in landscape photography where it's mounted on a tripod. Thank you for the tedious work! Great job.
A few things from this new amateur photographer: First, thanks for the detailed review and comparison. Appreciate it. Second, I am just a bit confused when you spend all this time making a detailed side by side comparison, why you wouldn't use the vertical grip with the larger/stronger battery to push the D850 at 9 fsp bringing it closer to the SONY (wouldn't the buffer fill up even faster?) - I'll also read your reply to the comment below to Tamman. My neighbor owns the A7Riii, I own the D850. We compare all the time and you're right, there are certain things that are excellent about both and sometimes those things don't overlap. In your test, I found that I picked the color science of Nikon 10/12 images. LOL Guess I might be bias as to what I'm seeing daily as well. One thing you didn't mention is price of the entire system. I don't know how prices compare of SONY Lenses to NIKON but there are lots of used lenses for the NIKON. Also, weight and ergonomics might be preferred by some for the camera to be smaller and light weight. Lastly, I'm curious about how easy or difficult and expensive it would be to get the sensor dirty and then cleaned. I would imagine without the mirror it's easier to get dust/dirt on the SONY sensor depending on where you're shooting. Thanks in advance for your reply to my long comment. :-)
Short answer is these tests are expensive and this one was not sponsored, so I basically paid for everything with my own money. That would be a good follow up test. There are actually a number of ways to tweak the tests, all good in and of themselves, worthy of doing, there is just no way I can do them all, and I won't try. I don't think there is a huge difference in cleaning the sensors but the Sony would be a touch easier because its not as deep. Thank you for your comment and best wishes
Thank you for responding Michael, and again, let me thank you for being so kind and providing the information you did. I can appreciate that these tests were expensive and came out of pocket and that there is always more that can be done. I really can't thank you enough just because I was interested. I do have one more question for you (again, because I am a beginner trying to learn). DId you do the test with the D850 burst /buffer test in lossless compressed because the SONY drops to 12 bit RAW instead of 14 bit RAW during bursts to better approximate the buffer's ability? Thanks, in advance.
Dude sony GM glass is rated higher than zeiss class, which to me is better than even canon's L series glass (which is said to be the best glass out there)
hofra moh Would you want or need a larger selection of glass for Sony, or would you be happy that the Sony lenses kick the ass of everyone else in every way?
I like Sony features and approach to the whole system however I would take a Nikon anytime, anywhere simply because it will work and withstand any conditions. To me, it's far more trustable camera and Sony still lacks a lot in this departement.
Even today I would still love to see an epic shootout between the D850 and the A99ii DSLT. The A99ii has the same sensor as the A7Riii, but is so much better in a lot of ways, as it brings so many great mirrorless features to a DSLR style camera, and features like the hybrid auto focus (on-sensor focus points of the A7Riii + a dedicated focus sensor). Not going to happen, but I'd love to see just how well they do against each other, as I'm shooting the A99ii and the D850 has to be one of the best DSLR's ever. For sports, I think the A99ii would even beat the D850 pretty handily, but very close everywhere else. Oh well!
Michael, I have bought several of your videos over the years and have learned from each. I think your approach, knowledge, and tone are great. I thought this video was outstanding and takes some of the tribalism out of reviews. There is so much great gear and so many large emotions attached it was really nice to see a calm, realistic side-by-side.
One thing you didn't comment on is the size and weight of each camera. This is important for me because I travel a lot and need to keep the weight down. All in all, I was seriously impressed by both cameras. They both take amazing photos that were only a dream just a few years ago. When I took your preference test, I landed on 9 Sony and 3 Nikon preferences but the preferences were not major. I tend to prefer sharp focus over color because I can post correct color but I can't correct focus. I'd love to see how much dynamic range you were able to reclaim in post on both cameras.
Congratulations Michael, this is in my opinion the best of these epic shootouts you've produced. I am a Nikon shooter and in the past felt that the criticism leveled over autofocus was overblown as there are literally no professional videographers I know that use autofocus. But that being said - the types of productions and cameras they use aren't slr's either and I don't personally know any vloggers or RUclips content creators. Here you're arguments in favor of the sony system for video are the most compelling I've seen. And on the other side of that you are literally the first RUclips camera reviewer I've seen who has drawn attention to the Sony's problem with autofocus while zooming in or out - that strikes me as profoundly important as someone who shots a lot of fast moving wildlife on my D500 and I am amazed that this is the first I have heard on the topic. Compelling arguments for either system and hats off to you.
Thank you Randy! Great to hear from you. As strange as this may sound, I’m the only tester I know of who checks the rack zoom during a burst for sports shooting, since the GH4 and A7s Test in 2014, because this is what sports shooters expect to do with DSLRs. Sony’s have always had this issue & they can’t seem to figure it out. Fuji xt2 did not have this limitation. It’s the last major focusing hurdle for Sony cameras. On the video side, I almost always shot manual focus for video, but Sony’s face tracking is so good, I’m starting to use it all the time in my normal shoots. Even at 2.8, it’s just so good. I can literally turn the camera on and jump in front of it without needing to dial focus in or shoot at 5.6-6.3, so for vloggers and tracking shots it’s pretty amazing. Nikon is almost there now. Thanks again for your thoughts
I say WOW when I saw the notification. You are the BEST with this Portrait Test. This test show me more than any other about what colors I realy like. Thanks!
This turned out extremely well. It really showed me what I was truly looking at in each camera. I’ve had my choice for a while on which I wanna go with but have been leaning towards one in particular. This review sealed that choice, but did so in an extremely unbiased way! Great review! Keep it up.
I think it is a great thing that both manufacturers are putting out stellar product where the buying decision comes out to a hair split. I think the only thing missing is Canon in the mix so hopefully Canon can get into the game. I have the Nikon D750 and recently just added the Sony A7R III to get IBIS, superior video, extra megapixels, and pixel shift. I have long been a Nikon fan and have four Nikon cameras so this is my first non-Nikon camera. For most events I need two cameras so I plan on keeping and using both the D750 and the A7R III. I will mount a wide angle lens on my D750 for group portrait, and a portrait lens on the A7R III for portrait.
Phenomenal review man... Congratulation on this review and your work I'm general. I've become a fan after seeing this video. Love to see someone that worked hard to produce this.
Excellent review. Have watched several times now. I'm trying to decide between the D850 and the a7rIII. Been leaning toward the latter camera for a few reasons, but, as a portrait shooter, this "posterization" business bothers me and I'm wondering if it should. What would be the "real world" dfference to the naked eye? Finer gradations in the Nikon images? Thanks.
There is another advantage for the Mirrorless over DSLR which is the game changer for me personally. I never have to take my eye off the viewfinder to review pictures! This is so important in Fashion shoots/Portrait work and tricky ambient light shifts as I can make f stop adjustments on the fly without having to 'chimp'. My time 'in the camera' is far greater with EVF. I don't do sport but can imagine the game change in relation to this fact once Sony has all tele prime glass ready. The Sony 400 f2.8 is here and that is just the start for those users.
By far the best review I’ve seen on the two. It’s obvious Sony takes the win for video. But as a long time Nikon shooter I had to stick with the 850. The portraits are just beautiful on this camera. But at the end of the day it isn’t the camera but the knowledge of the photographer.
**EPIC ~~EPIC** Another Best Review yet from you Michael. Thank you so much. It's difficult to pick the right pictures.They look identical. But I noticed Sony looks a bit sharper then Nikon images.
I think it's worth mentioning that while the af for sports on the a7Riii has a lower percentage hit rate, it is shooting at a higher fps so it's getting more photos. I think it would be about equal in regards to the usable photos. Correct me if I'm wrong. Great review btw, thanks.
Michael - 100% "Fair and Balanced"! I am a Sony guy but you bring completely valid points in your excellent real world tests. I could only suggest slightly expanded subdivisions in your user applications driven by light variables. You indirectly showed this in your tests but maybe better light conditions qualifiers would help in your conclusion. The Nikon seems like the obvious sports choice but good lighting conditions are critical. In pro/college, good lighting is common so few worries. But, in darker locations (outside, cloudy weather, mornings while birding) weak lighting rapidly re-levels the competition. Still, a faster focusing Sony A9 solution is needed as well as pending new long lenses by Sony for sports but based upon their recent lens release pace, it looks like that is resolved soon. As for weddings, the A7 family seems like they are wiping out Nikon and stealing a large fraction from Canon. Sony colors are approaching Canon in good and weak lighting. Portraits and architecture remain Canon's core strength but, again, with lower light the Sony starts pulling even or ahead.
All great points. The EVF in low light is a game changer. Who would have guessed even a few years ago that Canon would fade so fast into the background? At the pace Sony is moving I am not sure anyone can catch them anytime soon. Once they get that native telephoto lens line up, even these small issues should be resolved.
I've bought your books and guides over the last few months, they' re probably the best. As far as this test, one important note: I have measured my stock of new SD and XQD cards, all purchased new and genuine, and I have found huge differences between two batches (42 vs. 122 !!!!). They were supposed to be the same... this difference can hugely affect buffer performance.
Thank you so much for your support! Yes, there appears to be some variability with number of shots written without any explanation or understanding as to why! lol makes no sense!
The difference in measurements were so enormous that I suspected counterfeit cards, however, both batches were from B&H, same exact appearance/packaging, serial numbers checked out. I checked them in all my 4 computers - though the actual results were different numbers, the difference was the same percentage-wise (more than double!). Also, I've noticed two more things when I compared the cameras (the Sony was a rental): a) In pushing very dark areas in post, the Nikon was 100% color neutral (vs. the D810 which would make the recovered areas redish...), while the Sony would alter color. I was so impressed with the D850's sensor, I made a short clip about this finding: ruclips.net/video/l_PfFYRL6Zs/видео.html b) It was impossible to operate the Sony in cold weather with gloves. One day at minus 12 the Sony was hesitating and then stopped working. It started again after 10 minutes in the car. The Nikon took the shots as if it was normal weather after 25 mins exposure to minus 16 wind blast. I was always flirting with Sony for the size (and the D850s shutter makes ugly noise compared to the D810), but the above were deal breakers... for now.
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Your reviews are so good that I watch them, even though I have no intention to buy either of these cameras (for financial reason). If I may make a suggestion for future videos it would perhaps be that you consider skipping the dynamic range test, simply because at the development stage that sensors are at the differences are so small that it is not relevant for the majority of users, in my opinion. Thanks for yet another great review.
Richard Rönnbäck I appreciate your feedback. In this case yes, they are very close- however in past comparisons there have been huge differences, for example the A7rii vs 5DSR, or 70D vs D7100 & has I not included others would have asked for it, thanks again
First...So many of the samples lighting making it hard to discern. Second...LOVE this way of deciding as I would have Nikon bias. Third only one image was Sony selection for me. The A7 has some strange skin tone things going on. Keep doing this type of blind reviews despite I disagree with your conclusion of using the A7 for portraits. Also I was SHOCKED at how good the D850 was at video - you may have sold me on the 850 :-)
Your comparison reviews are the best i found on youtube .. we are eagerly awaiting the comparison review for mirrorless cameras (Sony A7III VS Nikonz6 VS Canon R) or (Sony A7RIII VS Nikonz7 VS Canon R) !!!
I love my D800 and I think i would upgrade to D850. My Sony A7s2 is nice but for Fotos I always prefer the D800. Thanks for the very detailed and super good comparison!
Excellent review Michael! I'm heavily invested in long glass for sports/wildlife shooting, so it's good to know that the D850 is solid if I want to continue on the Nikon side. But I am seriously impressed with the Sony A7RIII. Getting closer to the fork in the road. Just want to see what offerings Nikon will have later this year on the mirrorless side.
I love my D850 & for now Nikon has a terrific native telephoto lens advantage, but that gap is closing, and Sony is pushing innovation very hard. It’ll be interesting to watch how Nikon responds because it seems like they still want to fight. Where’s Canon?
Michael, great review and super unbiased. I do feel that you omitted the STRONGEST point on the D850 which is the native ISO 64!!!!!! Also you could emphasize the super fast buffer clearance of the D850. Another thing you could test for would be weather proofing (at which the Sony totally sucks!!). All in all a great comparison, I will be downloading your crash course on the D850. Kudos man well done👌
Great points, however I can tell you the weather proofing in the Sony is ridiculously good. I dropped my A9 in water and due to the weather it quickly froze after a couple of minutes without me realising it, all it took was for me to take the ice out and the camera took NO DAMAGE at all.
Don't forget to add 0:00 to your description Chapter Markers so that RUclips chunks up your video. Great review!!! I have a d800 and I am annoyed with the auto focusing for vlogging.
A good honest informative review can never be too long. Thanks mate, hoping to get the D850 one day but happy with the D500 for now. Look forward to many more of your reviews.
Great comparo I shoot Nikon for my sports/wildlife stuff, and Sony for portraits and general purpose In a real world scenario, the XQD clearing speed makes up for the buffer - as its not normal to hold down the shutter for that length of time, youd normally be shooting bursts Also one thing you could have tested was the 2nd card slot.... the UHSI slot in the A7rii makes it quite poor if you want to shoot Raw+Raw
Michael: You are one of the few I think could give a fair "real user applications" vs. camera "matrix" for users. I am sick of goobers' and their counter-top babbling so your camera matrix for each category would be a great reference. Also a "fix this and you win" step-up list for each camera would be fascinating.
Freaking beautiful job-- great production values, tremendous level of useful detail and accuracy... and you actually know what you are talking about (what a concept). This is my first video of yours I have seen, but it won't be the last, as you have a new subscriber. Thanks for caring enough to do such a great job!
I also owned both the D850 and the A7RIII, ended up switching 100% to Sony. Like Michael I also do video and the D850 just wasn't good enough in that department for what I do. I also preferred the Sony for portraits for the eye af, that is a game changer for me. However, if I did sports I would be going D850 all the way.
usually don't comment on camera reviews, but Michael this was an excellent one, im a Nikon shutter with 12 years of lenses purchasing history including the nikon 300mm2.8 and 200 f2.0( very expensive ones), to me the cameras just come and go, but the lenses are a different story, im working mainly with weddings and portrait photography and im very happy with the d850 performance, man I do admit Sony have some candy for me on the EVF and eye autofocus features, but is very hard for me to justify letting go my lenses that cost me years in getting, just for that. I do hope Nikon get those features in near future models. like I said cameras just come and go, also another thing that I noticed I may be wrong but Sony cameras seem to loose value faster isn't?
Good Review... I enjoyed it My 2 cents on something you didn't mention.... on the D850, if you want to increase from 7 to 9 fps, you not only need the grip, but also the D5's battery and the charger for that battery. And the grip, the battery and the charger will cost you an extra °$1000
Got the D850 a month ago. No regrets. It's an incredible camera with great video features!
See One, Do One Amen, I love mine, and it fits my hand.
See One, Do One Love mine and it fits a man’s hands.
Thanks for the great real world review!
I think both are great, I choose the D850 simply because of having the full set of Nikon glass.
one point , the buffer test is a bit not fair to the D850.
If you set the D850 to 12 Bit compressed RAW
you will get 200 shootsbefore the buffer ends.
this is the mode Sony was while you were testing it.
Thanks Again !
Yair
Easily the best camera review video I've ever seen. As a landscape photographer who also shoots concerts on occasion I'd probably go with the Nikon but being that I'm already a Canon shooter the Sony would be much less of a headache to switch to. If Canon doesn't put out a truly spectacular 5DSr mark 2 soon I'm jumping ship.
I can always count on you to go over details others missed, it is great to know that camera companies competitiveness has left this decision to personal choice. That also means that they are exceeding at what they are supposed to be doing, which is bring us the best capable cameras on the market!
As a Canon user it is refreshing to see a detailed review like this.
You're back! These reviews were greatly missed, Michael.
It’s good to be back - I need to do a better job of consistency. Thanks for your patience and support
See from the sample images I would pick the Nikon for portraits. The Sony almost shows too much detail there. For landscapes I would go with the Sony with its advantage of being a compact lighter system
Michael I was so going to buy the D850. But then Sony came out with a7r iii before I had a chance to purchase the Nikon. If I was only doing still photos these days I would have gone with the D850. However, I shoot more and more video so I pulled the trigger on the a7r iii. No camera is perfect. The only drawbacks for me with a7r iii is the touch interface is not as good as the D850 or the 5DM4. Also I wish Sony would've had 2 UHS-II slots instead of just one. I also can't believe there is no built-in intervalometer with the a7r iii. Anyway, I'm still very pleased with the a7r iii purchase.
All true and good statements
Having Nikon glass can be a worthy reason for staying, especially since both cameras are worthy contenders. Weight can be an issue for some, but most males 'should' be able to handle the little difference. Looking forward to the D850 once the budget is topped up!
6sony 6nikon damn.. but im lucky i dont have money to chose one of the this cameras :) im happy with my d750 :)
cooloox, the D850 color is quite good, I own one and the camera is excellent.
Looks like the D850 wins out with 8. Looking to upgrade from the D750...hoping it's a worthwhile upgrade! Would use the focus stacking, as I'm doing so manually with my current setup...thus making that portion of Landscape a nice fit.
@@dalewatkins9889 did you upgrate to 850? if yes please can you tell your feelings! i'm planning same upgrate too!
You Maven, do the BEST comparison video on RUclips, Period. The precision, the scientific reasoning, the efforts, oh God. You deserve so many more views!
Thank you my Friend!
A feature landscapers should take into account, is the Low ISO of the Nikon. Lloyd Chambers tested and found that Nikon's 32 ISO (Low setting) is almost identical with the 64 but with even less noise. In essence, and in my own tests, the 32 ISO puts the D850 almost into medium format performance.
I absolutely love and look forward to your Epic Shootout videos! Even when I'm not planning on getting either of the cameras you're showing, I always enjoy watching all the details you provide and your insight, so thank you so much
I am a pro photographer, have been using Nikon form D750 thru D810, I know you are canon man, Bought the D850 in Dec 2017, and Bought The A7RIII in Jan 2018, I own the same lenses you demonstrated on both cameras, I do my share of sports photography, Yes the Nikon does have the edge, I do like the colors on the D850 also, I also use the grip for the Nikon, The Sony on the other Hand. the EYE focus on the Models is Stunning, Dead On The Portraits are Awesome, The D850 Lags Big, Most of my shoots are portrait . I Love Both Cameras, I have Used the Sony A9, The A9 is NOT the same as A7RIII, NOT even similar, The Camera is Amazingly fast focusing than The D850, The Shots are Crisp, you are WRONG there, I am Glad you like Nikon D850, Yes it is FAR More superior than any canon! Overall you Did the Best Comparison , Good Job there,
I am hoping to do some of that testing. I am assuming that you are shooting very wide open...which is where eye auto focus comes into play the most.
Yes! wide open and 90 percent of my shoots are on aperture priority , D850 is Awesome at Static
When you start with "i am a pro photographer", you sound like a douche. Just get to your point we don't want to know what level of photographer you are.
I have no clue what you said. None of it makes sense. Also I don’t know many pro photogs that rely on Eye auto focus to determine which camera is better. The only thing you’re saying is “I don’t know how to focus in manual focus”
i went for d850 because of weather proofing and lens selection.
Warning: I own a D810 with weather sealing…. and in a light rain.... the answer from Nikon after over one year waiting: "the camera got wet" Nothing more.
Not better than a Sony 7rIII, the sealing is similar. Sony has the better lenses anyway
@@alestbest - much the same as my D750, wet didn't seem to make any difference long-term in the camera whatsoever! Works every time regardless of dry or wet.
@@bojangbg A7R3 is known for its worst weather sealing. If you have no knowledge about it, then check some of the weather test videos.
you won me over with the test! what a brilliant idea!!! I scored 7/12 in favor of the D850 - that was very eye-opening!
Shoot. Both amazing. I went with the a7r3 video, ibis and eye AF being the determining factor. Who would have thought that Sony finally has nice color
Totally get why you were gone and even was a sponsor for some filters. But you and these fantastic videos were still missed.
Thank you Michael.
Thank you so much for your support Rubi! It meant so much to me that nearly 1000 photographers came together in that way. All of our filters were delivered!
This was awesome Michael! Absolutely love these shoot outs and was looking forward to this one! I love my Nikon D850 and will say a lot of the issues you have with the sony system is the reason why I switched from the Sony a7rII and picked up the Nikon D850!
Thank you TJ! I love my D850 and don't see it going anywhere soon :)
I agree! Also one thing a lot of people dont disclose with the electronic shutter is you will have banding issues when combining artificial and ambient light such as a flash mixed with ambient light and needing to turn on the mechanical shutter but a lot of the Sony RUclips photographers dont disclose as a tip which cost me a couple shoots, thank goodness it wasnt paid work but the photos were awesome but couldnt use them. As always love the unbiased results and glad you're putting them out there!
I think this would be a good test to add to the arsenal, Ive seen it in the past on other Sonys, but I haven't included it in the Epic Shootouts and I think it is important. Ill include it in my A7iii Review.
I cannot speak for the other RUclips reviewers, I do think they are trying their best, but I was disappointed with the lack of criticism I saw for the A7iii and overwhelming support and endorsements given for it for the very reason you mention. The Sony Press Events have ruined those specific camera reviews IMO because it is all consolidated now, Sony controls way too much of it and reviewers are not testing on their own. Thats the short of it.
Saweet!!!!!! I think that would be awesome to add to the arsenal! Yes I agree they are trying their best and appreciate the tips on flash photography and how they use flash but definitely think it is something that should be disclosed.
Also very much agree with the Sony reviewing of cameras and how all you hear is positive reviews and dont disclose the negatives like your shootouts with the average consumers in mind. -TJ
Not only do you have a confident appearance, you have a phenomenal way of speaking and your review is literally the best review i have seen in regards to these specific cameras. I truly appreciate how you took the images side by side instead of just offering specs an "take my word for it". I will continue to trust your judgement and watch your hands on approach with is amazing! I chose the D850 thank you.
Thank you Amanda :)
You are most welcome :)
That was a very fair an unbiased review. I have the Sony A7RIII and I love the thing. I don't have the Nikon D850 but I still have my D750 which I also love despite its many limitations when compared to the camera bodies discussed in your video. Really good review mate!
Love the opening. You are like the "Indiana Jones" of photographers.
This review might be 5 years but it's still relevant today. I have a dual 850 set up and also have the A7R iii. Both are brilliant cameras and it's hard to separate them.
Best comparison video I’ve ever seen. Nice job.
Wow 6 to 6. Can't decide which one I like more. Been a Nikon customer for many years. Like the touchscreen and wish Sony had the same features in the touchscreen as Nikon. Very difficult decision. Thanks for the video. Very informative.
This is by far the greatest camera review out there and I watch A LOT of camera reviews. I love the 12 portrait picture too. 🙌🏼
As an owner of Nikon D750 and Sony a9, I would definitely point landscape photographer towards the a7Riii over the D850. In bright sunlight, it is almost impossible to review photos on the dim LCD, but it's pretty easy to do that with the EVF. When you have an accurate exposure, you are less dependent on the dynamic range of the camera.
I can't argue about the sports shooting, but if you're shooting sports like basketball, volleyball, tennis, table tennis, golf, swimming, the current 70-200mm f/2.8 is very adequate.
I got the chance to shoot the D850 and I'm impressed with it. Couldn't really tell the difference. I would go with it for Landscapes simply coz of the lower Native ISO. I do disagree with you in terms of the glasses. But while the Nikon system has more options at the telephoto range, for the rest of the glasses, the Sony glasses are just noticeably sharper. I've tested the 85mm 24-70 and 70-200. The Sony one's are just in a different league.
I like your comparisons. Very comprehensive. I would use D5 or 1DX2 for sports because of the higher fps and only needing the jpegs anyway, D850 for landscape and with battery grip - for wildlife, because the high number of MPs allows deeper cropping. And finally - A7R3 for video, portraits, street and even photography with all that goodness of EVF, eye detect, silent shooting, crazy low light and precise video AF and IBIS. Just my 2 cents :)
Michael that A7RIII is amazing and the Nikon is not far behind . I love Nikon’s ergonomics and really dislike Sony’s . However , that Sony eye AF feature is astounding and a game changer. Eye AF alone is enough for me to consider leaving Nikon for Sony . Lastly , I prefer Nikon’s more neutral skin tones to Sony’s as Sony colors are too orange for my taste . Great comparison and you’re the best reviewer on RUclips by far .
I believe that 12 photos contest is the real tie breaker here. As owner of Nikon D800 I was thinking about switching to Sony A7R III since it's getting a lot of positive comments, but I chose 10/12 in favor of Nikon. So much for system change ;) Great review! Kudos!
I recently came across your camera reviews and they are the best.
I picked the Sony 7/5 in the portrait test, but I will most likely buy the Nikon because most of my shooting is wildlife, which means the lens lineup decides it for me.
Great job Micheal I work at a camera store selling these cameras and they are both great!
I happen to be invested in Nikon, I own the D850 and the D500. I use my D850 for portrait and landscape I use the D500 with the Nikon 200-400mm f4 and 200-500mm for the reach I get. For video, low light, and IBIS the Sony wins your right. The person who commented below was also right about the weather sealing Sony has none and Nikon has better lens choice.
Both pretty awesome cameras, my pick would be the D850 but I do like what Sony has come up with as an alternative.
one of very few unbiased reviews i've seen...... great review
You deserve more subscribers for your hard work 👏👏👏
Michael, I want to thank you so very much for this unbiased review. I was undecided what Camara to with until you had the 12 photo line up. That helped me to make my decision. Thank you so much. I am subscribed to you and once I get my camera I will buy your crash course so I can learn a thing or two. Please keep making videos like this! This is by far one of the best sides by side reviews I have seen. Thank you so much Sir.
8/12 for Nikon. I have a Nikon ans some lenses and now I know I will upgrade someday to this D850. Too many people speak about Sony, but well I don't shoot video that much, and sports neither. Another important question that does not appear in coparisons, is what about the manufacturing quality and the durability, I know Nikon's are build like a tank, what about the Sonys ?
I am waiting for the time that Sony puts a fast processor in all their camera's. The buffer clearing is always the weak point, even with the A9. For portraits I think the A7RIII is better because of eye AF and a big collection of fast high quality primes like the 85/1.4 GM , 100/2.8 STF and 50/1.4 Zeiss.
Good comments
Nikon doesn't a large range of fast high quality primes???
The Sony primes are better quality. Check DxOMark. I don't think Nikon has a STF lens which gives a very special bokeh.
Birds On A Stick
Today I bought a used D850 and I feel confirmed with my decision as the differences are in the" hair splitting" category - to be honest I have to say that I already own a D750 and a nice range of excellent Nikon lenses so the cost to switch would have been kind of prohibitive. But I am glad to know by this excellent comparison that my - somewhat forced - choice is finally not a bad one. Interesting that you didn't touch on ergonomics and the weight difference but I think once you mount good (read: heavy) lenses the weight of the body is not that important more so because I'm mostly interested in landscape photography where it's mounted on a tripod. Thank you for the tedious work! Great job.
A few things from this new amateur photographer: First, thanks for the detailed review and comparison. Appreciate it. Second, I am just a bit confused when you spend all this time making a detailed side by side comparison, why you wouldn't use the vertical grip with the larger/stronger battery to push the D850 at 9 fsp bringing it closer to the SONY (wouldn't the buffer fill up even faster?) - I'll also read your reply to the comment below to Tamman. My neighbor owns the A7Riii, I own the D850. We compare all the time and you're right, there are certain things that are excellent about both and sometimes those things don't overlap. In your test, I found that I picked the color science of Nikon 10/12 images. LOL Guess I might be bias as to what I'm seeing daily as well. One thing you didn't mention is price of the entire system. I don't know how prices compare of SONY Lenses to NIKON but there are lots of used lenses for the NIKON. Also, weight and ergonomics might be preferred by some for the camera to be smaller and light weight. Lastly, I'm curious about how easy or difficult and expensive it would be to get the sensor dirty and then cleaned. I would imagine without the mirror it's easier to get dust/dirt on the SONY sensor depending on where you're shooting. Thanks in advance for your reply to my long comment. :-)
Short answer is these tests are expensive and this one was not sponsored, so I basically paid for everything with my own money. That would be a good follow up test. There are actually a number of ways to tweak the tests, all good in and of themselves, worthy of doing, there is just no way I can do them all, and I won't try. I don't think there is a huge difference in cleaning the sensors but the Sony would be a touch easier because its not as deep. Thank you for your comment and best wishes
Thank you for responding Michael, and again, let me thank you for being so kind and providing the information you did. I can appreciate that these tests were expensive and came out of pocket and that there is always more that can be done. I really can't thank you enough just because I was interested. I do have one more question for you (again, because I am a beginner trying to learn). DId you do the test with the D850 burst /buffer test in lossless compressed because the SONY drops to 12 bit RAW instead of 14 bit RAW during bursts to better approximate the buffer's ability? Thanks, in advance.
Nikon 850 for me !!! Nikon glass rules
Dude sony GM glass is rated higher than zeiss class, which to me is better than even canon's L series glass (which is said to be the best glass out there)
rated by who? BS mark?
Scotty Zepplin what Hector meant is the amount of the glasses that Nikon offers.
hofra moh Would you want or need a larger selection of glass for Sony, or would you be happy that the Sony lenses kick the ass of everyone else in every way?
Scotty Zepplin I have owned and used Nikon’s top glass, but Sony (especially the GM lenses) blows away the competition!
Probably one of the most honest review i have watched between the Nikon d850 and Sony a7riii. Video was really helpful.
I like Sony features and approach to the whole system however I would take a Nikon anytime, anywhere simply because it will work and withstand any conditions. To me, it's far more trustable camera and Sony still lacks a lot in this departement.
Even today I would still love to see an epic shootout between the D850 and the A99ii DSLT. The A99ii has the same sensor as the A7Riii, but is so much better in a lot of ways, as it brings so many great mirrorless features to a DSLR style camera, and features like the hybrid auto focus (on-sensor focus points of the A7Riii + a dedicated focus sensor). Not going to happen, but I'd love to see just how well they do against each other, as I'm shooting the A99ii and the D850 has to be one of the best DSLR's ever. For sports, I think the A99ii would even beat the D850 pretty handily, but very close everywhere else. Oh well!
Michael, I have bought several of your videos over the years and have learned from each. I think your approach, knowledge, and tone are great. I thought this video was outstanding and takes some of the tribalism out of reviews. There is so much great gear and so many large emotions attached it was really nice to see a calm, realistic side-by-side.
This painstaking review is worth the wait and always as a treat. Thanks!
One thing you didn't comment on is the size and weight of each camera. This is important for me because I travel a lot and need to keep the weight down. All in all, I was seriously impressed by both cameras. They both take amazing photos that were only a dream just a few years ago. When I took your preference test, I landed on 9 Sony and 3 Nikon preferences but the preferences were not major. I tend to prefer sharp focus over color because I can post correct color but I can't correct focus.
I'd love to see how much dynamic range you were able to reclaim in post on both cameras.
Congratulations Michael, this is in my opinion the best of these epic shootouts you've produced. I am a Nikon shooter and in the past felt that the criticism leveled over autofocus was overblown as there are literally no professional videographers I know that use autofocus. But that being said - the types of productions and cameras they use aren't slr's either and I don't personally know any vloggers or RUclips content creators. Here you're arguments in favor of the sony system for video are the most compelling I've seen. And on the other side of that you are literally the first RUclips camera reviewer I've seen who has drawn attention to the Sony's problem with autofocus while zooming in or out - that strikes me as profoundly important as someone who shots a lot of fast moving wildlife on my D500 and I am amazed that this is the first I have heard on the topic.
Compelling arguments for either system and hats off to you.
Thank you Randy! Great to hear from you. As strange as this may sound, I’m the only tester I know of who checks the rack zoom during a burst for sports shooting, since the GH4 and A7s Test in 2014, because this is what sports shooters expect to do with DSLRs. Sony’s have always had this issue & they can’t seem to figure it out. Fuji xt2 did not have this limitation. It’s the last major focusing hurdle for Sony cameras. On the video side, I almost always shot manual focus for video, but Sony’s face tracking is so good, I’m starting to use it all the time in my normal shoots. Even at 2.8, it’s just so good. I can literally turn the camera on and jump in front of it without needing to dial focus in or shoot at 5.6-6.3, so for vloggers and tracking shots it’s pretty amazing. Nikon is almost there now. Thanks again for your thoughts
I say WOW when I saw the notification.
You are the BEST with this Portrait Test. This test show me more than any other about what colors I realy like. Thanks!
This turned out extremely well. It really showed me what I was truly looking at in each camera. I’ve had my choice for a while on which I wanna go with but have been leaning towards one in particular. This review sealed that choice, but did so in an extremely unbiased way! Great review! Keep it up.
Wow, nearly two years ago, would like to see a real world review of the D850 and Z7II now!
D850 swiftly smoothly loving the look
I think it is a great thing that both manufacturers are putting out stellar product where the buying decision comes out to a hair split. I think the only thing missing is Canon in the mix so hopefully Canon can get into the game. I have the Nikon D750 and recently just added the Sony A7R III to get IBIS, superior video, extra megapixels, and pixel shift. I have long been a Nikon fan and have four Nikon cameras so this is my first non-Nikon camera. For most events I need two cameras so I plan on keeping and using both the D750 and the A7R III. I will mount a wide angle lens on my D750 for group portrait, and a portrait lens on the A7R III for portrait.
Phenomenal review man... Congratulation on this review and your work I'm general. I've become a fan after seeing this video. Love to see someone that worked hard to produce this.
Excellent review. Have watched several times now. I'm trying to decide between the D850 and the a7rIII. Been leaning toward the latter camera for a few reasons, but, as a portrait shooter, this "posterization" business bothers me and I'm wondering if it should. What would be the "real world" dfference to the naked eye? Finer gradations in the Nikon images? Thanks.
great video as usual ... Happy that someone else mentions the moire on the a7r III, its been annoying me since day one !
There is another advantage for the Mirrorless over DSLR which is the game changer for me personally. I never have to take my eye off the viewfinder to review pictures! This is so important in Fashion shoots/Portrait work and tricky ambient light shifts as I can make f stop adjustments on the fly without having to 'chimp'. My time 'in the camera' is far greater with EVF. I don't do sport but can imagine the game change in relation to this fact once Sony has all tele prime glass ready. The Sony 400 f2.8 is here and that is just the start for those users.
Superb Comparison! Hits all the points that really matter. Thanks for all the work here!
By far the best review I’ve seen on the two. It’s obvious Sony takes the win for video. But as a long time Nikon shooter I had to stick with the 850. The portraits are just beautiful on this camera. But at the end of the day it isn’t the camera but the knowledge of the photographer.
**EPIC ~~EPIC**
Another Best Review yet from you Michael.
Thank you so much.
It's difficult to pick the right pictures.They look identical.
But I noticed Sony looks a bit sharper then Nikon images.
I think it's worth mentioning that while the af for sports on the a7Riii has a lower percentage hit rate, it is shooting at a higher fps so it's getting more photos. I think it would be about equal in regards to the usable photos. Correct me if I'm wrong. Great review btw, thanks.
Best review of the best two mid range cameras on the market.
Thank's Maven, great video! I purchased your instruction video when I got my first DLSR years ago, the D7000!!!!
Thanks for the review man! Happy to go with the d850 next month! :D
Michael - 100% "Fair and Balanced"! I am a Sony guy but you bring completely valid points in your excellent real world tests. I could only suggest slightly expanded subdivisions in your user applications driven by light variables. You indirectly showed this in your tests but maybe better light conditions qualifiers would help in your conclusion.
The Nikon seems like the obvious sports choice but good lighting conditions are critical. In pro/college, good lighting is common so few worries. But, in darker locations (outside, cloudy weather, mornings while birding) weak lighting rapidly re-levels the competition. Still, a faster focusing Sony A9 solution is needed as well as pending new long lenses by Sony for sports but based upon their recent lens release pace, it looks like that is resolved soon.
As for weddings, the A7 family seems like they are wiping out Nikon and stealing a large fraction from Canon. Sony colors are approaching Canon in good and weak lighting. Portraits and architecture remain Canon's core strength but, again, with lower light the Sony starts pulling even or ahead.
All great points. The EVF in low light is a game changer. Who would have guessed even a few years ago that Canon would fade so fast into the background? At the pace Sony is moving I am not sure anyone can catch them anytime soon. Once they get that native telephoto lens line up, even these small issues should be resolved.
I've bought your books and guides over the last few months, they' re probably the best. As far as this test, one important note: I have measured my stock of new SD and XQD cards, all purchased new and genuine, and I have found huge differences between two batches (42 vs. 122 !!!!). They were supposed to be the same... this difference can hugely affect buffer performance.
Thank you so much for your support! Yes, there appears to be some variability with number of shots written without any explanation or understanding as to why! lol makes no sense!
The difference in measurements were so enormous that I suspected counterfeit cards, however, both batches were from B&H, same exact appearance/packaging, serial numbers checked out. I checked them in all my 4 computers - though the actual results were different numbers, the difference was the same percentage-wise (more than double!).
Also, I've noticed two more things when I compared the cameras (the Sony was a rental): a) In pushing very dark areas in post, the Nikon was 100% color neutral (vs. the D810 which would make the recovered areas redish...), while the Sony would alter color. I was so impressed with the D850's sensor, I made a short clip about this finding: ruclips.net/video/l_PfFYRL6Zs/видео.html
b) It was impossible to operate the Sony in cold weather with gloves. One day at minus 12 the Sony was hesitating and then stopped working. It started again after 10 minutes in the car. The Nikon took the shots as if it was normal weather after 25 mins exposure to minus 16 wind blast.
I was always flirting with Sony for the size (and the D850s shutter makes ugly noise compared to the D810), but the above were deal breakers... for now.
Your reviews are so good that I watch them, even though I have no intention to buy either of these cameras (for financial reason). If I may make a suggestion for future videos it would perhaps be that you consider skipping the dynamic range test, simply because at the development stage that sensors are at the differences are so small that it is not relevant for the majority of users, in my opinion. Thanks for yet another great review.
Richard Rönnbäck I appreciate your feedback. In this case yes, they are very close- however in past comparisons there have been huge differences, for example the A7rii vs 5DSR, or 70D vs D7100 & has I not included others would have asked for it, thanks again
This is indeed the greatest camera review channel and I will find some way to forever support this channel
Tony A thank you Tony! I really appreciate it.
You deserve much more audience !
First...So many of the samples lighting making it hard to discern.
Second...LOVE this way of deciding as I would have Nikon bias.
Third only one image was Sony selection for me. The A7 has some strange skin tone things going on.
Keep doing this type of blind reviews despite I disagree with your conclusion of using the A7 for portraits. Also I was SHOCKED at how good the D850 was at video - you may have sold me on the 850 :-)
Your comparison reviews are the best i found on youtube .. we are eagerly awaiting the comparison review for mirrorless cameras (Sony A7III VS Nikonz6 VS Canon R) or (Sony A7RIII VS Nikonz7 VS Canon R) !!!
Fantastic video Michael! Looking forward to purchasing your tutorials! Best to you!
Nikon yes,I'am happy with D810
excellent camera!!
Hands down the best comparison, well done!
Man, you make the absolute best videos brother!!! Thank you
I love my D800 and I think i would upgrade to D850. My Sony A7s2 is nice but for Fotos I always prefer the D800. Thanks for the very detailed and super good comparison!
Excellent review Michael! I'm heavily invested in long glass for sports/wildlife shooting, so it's good to know that the D850 is solid if I want to continue on the Nikon side. But I am seriously impressed with the Sony A7RIII. Getting closer to the fork in the road. Just want to see what offerings Nikon will have later this year on the mirrorless side.
I love my D850 & for now Nikon has a terrific native telephoto lens advantage, but that gap is closing, and Sony is pushing innovation very hard. It’ll be interesting to watch how Nikon responds because it seems like they still want to fight. Where’s Canon?
MORE DRAMATIC THAN EVER! YES! Thank you sir!
One word: Awesome! Thank you, Michael!
You're doing the best reviews! Thank you!
Michael, great review and super unbiased. I do feel that you omitted the STRONGEST point on the D850 which is the native ISO 64!!!!!! Also you could emphasize the super fast buffer clearance of the D850. Another thing you could test for would be weather proofing (at which the Sony totally sucks!!). All in all a great comparison, I will be downloading your crash course on the D850.
Kudos man well done👌
All great points!
Downloading the crash course thanks for going the extra mile Michael, great stuff!!
Christos Phillippou thank you so much for your support!
Great points, however I can tell you the weather proofing in the Sony is ridiculously good.
I dropped my A9 in water and due to the weather it quickly froze after a couple of minutes without me realising it, all it took was for me to take the ice out and the camera took NO DAMAGE at all.
Water damage can get you after months.
Don't forget to add 0:00 to your description Chapter Markers so that RUclips chunks up your video. Great review!!! I have a d800 and I am annoyed with the auto focusing for vlogging.
A good honest informative review can never be too long. Thanks mate, hoping to get the D850 one day but happy with the D500 for now. Look forward to many more of your reviews.
Thank you Steve!
Love the intro! Great comparison as always!
Fantastic work Michael on the comparison - enjoyed the unbiased review and thank you for that :)
Thank you! My pleasure- Im usually pretty happy with the final results even though there is always much to improve on.
Great comparo
I shoot Nikon for my sports/wildlife stuff, and Sony for portraits and general purpose
In a real world scenario, the XQD clearing speed makes up for the buffer - as its not normal to hold down the shutter for that length of time, youd normally be shooting bursts
Also one thing you could have tested was the 2nd card slot.... the UHSI slot in the A7rii makes it quite poor if you want to shoot Raw+Raw
Michael: You are one of the few I think could give a fair "real user applications" vs. camera "matrix" for users. I am sick of goobers' and their counter-top babbling so your camera matrix for each category would be a great reference. Also a "fix this and you win" step-up list for each camera would be fascinating.
The Maven Speaks! Great Stuff Michael, many thanks, i always enjoy these shootouts.
Thank you Rexx!
This is the best Video for A7R III vs D850. Thank you.
When the rubber meets the road ! Top man.
Best review on RUclips. Excellent job. Thank you very much. Love watching your videos
Best camera comparison I've ever seen.
Freaking beautiful job-- great production values, tremendous level of useful detail and accuracy... and you actually know what you are talking about (what a concept).
This is my first video of yours I have seen, but it won't be the last, as you have a new subscriber.
Thanks for caring enough to do such a great job!
Very kind words- thank you Andrew
this is a great vid! i own nikon d850 and im loving it so far
I also owned both the D850 and the A7RIII, ended up switching 100% to Sony. Like Michael I also do video and the D850 just wasn't good enough in that department for what I do. I also preferred the Sony for portraits for the eye af, that is a game changer for me. However, if I did sports I would be going D850 all the way.
Best review ever subscribed keep up the good work bro
Hey buddy you got a subscriber. Such a great,honest and impartial review
usually don't comment on camera reviews, but Michael this was an excellent one, im a Nikon shutter with 12 years of lenses purchasing history including the nikon 300mm2.8 and 200 f2.0( very expensive ones), to me the cameras just come and go, but the lenses are a different story, im working mainly with weddings and portrait photography and im very happy with the d850 performance, man I do admit Sony have some candy for me on the EVF and eye autofocus features, but is very hard for me to justify letting go my lenses that cost me years in getting, just for that. I do hope Nikon get those features in near future models. like I said cameras just come and go, also another thing that I noticed I may be wrong but Sony cameras seem to loose value faster isn't?
Love your reviews. Thank you for making this video.
Good Review... I enjoyed it
My 2 cents on something you didn't mention.... on the D850, if you want to increase from 7 to 9 fps, you not only need the grip, but also the D5's battery and the charger for that battery. And the grip, the battery and the charger will cost you an extra °$1000
Franco Farinelli you don't get the extra frames using the regular battery in the grip?
nop :(