Baling Hay! The Square baler still isn't working very good. So we finished by making Round bales
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- We are making square bales with a new holland super hayliner 78 and making round bales with a Gehl 1475 round baler. We are are using the TYM T654 tractor to run everything.
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The hay bale bucking days. Most of the time we got to buck it three times, once on the trailer, once on the conveyor and finally to stack in the loft. Oh the good old days. You definitely learn what a hards day work was. What I enjoyed was when the other farmers helped each other and the women put together a spread for lunch and dinner. We sure ate good and had good fellowship. Enjoy your videos and reminds me of when I was a kid. Thank you.
Same here! I would go back in a heartbeat.
That square baler was probably awesome in the 50s lol. Round bales is were is at
It is really wonderful to see Rebccca helping with the work.
I appreciate the effort that goes into these videos. Thank you
Add small fishing tackle boxes (or harbor freight 'ammo' boxes) on the balers to store shear pins and minor parts. Your scrap wire bin could be on the back of the baler too.
Love your videos. All of them are interesting to me. Good clear, calm friendly delivery, Evan and Rebecca!
Evan, you and Rebekah are a wonderful team! Thank you for sharing! God bless your family!
Pete from Just A Few Acres has the same brand round bailer you are using. Just watched him do his bales.
You need a hay hook sure makes it easier to pull the bales off the chute and stack them.
Looked like he was using one to me,
@@AfterTheRains I went back and looked again your right. I just missed it I guess. I always use them when stacking also. Be blessed.
Put some salt on them to draw the moisture out so they don’t catch on fire
I wonder how many attempts it to the person who invented the wire knotting machine until they had figured out the mechanism and how it needs to work.
Well, no attempt, actually... It was pure coincedence, a son of John Deere tried to catch his dog with a leash, and that fell fortuate enough, to do exactly this knot, and the knot of most other balers 😊 I am sorry for bad English, but I am from Germany, and never learned it properly 😁
I'm thinking back to a time when people were employed to do this job...
Time for af trip to the scrap yard
I think he was either incredibly talented or insane
@@trabantfahrer9252😂 good one 🤣
Always have the chute flipped forward until you get to the field.
Boy oh boy ...that bailer called the shots there for a while! Good you figured it out Evan ! That hay is surrrre beautiful ! You and Rebekah are such a great team ! Love y'all ! God's greatest blessings to you ! 🤗
main thing is you got it baled great job
In the 1960's we bailed with a International 45 baler. we did not have the money to have the knotters looked at, and the twine boxes were on each side of the bale chamber. So my dad had me sitting on one of them while he baled. If I saw a bale not tied, I would yell, and dad would stop and tie the bale that was not tied while it was still in the bale chamber to save twine. Many dusty days doing that.
Do you foresee yourself replacing this square bailer with a newer string bailer down the line?
Maybe if a good deal presents itself.
Evan, maybe it's time to donate the square baler to Farm Museum! Just kidding! You are turning Rebbeca into a Farm Girl!
Tks for the video!
We used to put blue salt on the hay and it helped to draw any moisture and helped preserve it a bit better. We also put round bales on their end and salted them mostly in the core and it helped with the clover which is so hard to cure perfectly.
I still use a New Holland super hayliner 69 wire tie. I piddled with it until I have very few problems. You’ll get it working fine! Use a little WD-40 in places and it will work great. I’ll give you pointers!
We are listening 😊 Do you think it could be bad wire? Wrong gage, too brittle, not annealed properly? The wire has to be sufficiently malleable so it can bend and twist but not snap. So that's what I'm thinking - the wrong wire or bad wire bought on price not quality by the retailer.
Hard to say without seeing but the old super 69 that I bought had wire that was 10-15 years old almost full but I used every bit of it. Oiled it up some then started using it. Broke a few bales to start with but I shined all the twisting units the best I could and it was better. I found some groves in the hooks that catches the wire and replaced those. (Expensive)
I made adjustments of the wire guide and wrapper tail according to the manual and have had very few problems since. I spray the twisting units with WD-40 before I start every time.
It was sort of trial and error but I have a great old Baler now.
The greener the hay the more salt we put on them and we never had a problem.
Oliver Wendell Douglas never had as many problems as you seem to have on every episode. Maybe Mr Haney could help you find some working equipment.
Sometimes changing the type of wire you use can help your tying. Good luck pard
It's definitely more fun watching this in the A/C, then to be the one stacking it ha ha. Keep up the hard work you two!
I so wish you guys could find a good twine square baler for the money. That one messes up just enough to be aggravating. I always loved to keep square bales around to feed in the manger in the barn on bad weather days or for if you got home after 4 (already dark). Enjoyed the video and pretty hay! Murfreesboro TN
I grew up with a twine square baler and knotters are always a problem.
I've noticed others with the round baler back up a few feet before releasing the bale so they get started before the load is on, saving the shear bolts.
It wouldn’t be farming without some challenges My dad could fix almost anything with bender-twine and duct tape. Binder twine because we always had extra from bales that wouldn’t tie property! Hay looks pretty good. If we don’t get some rain soon, second cutting around here might be a challenge too. Thanks for taking us along. Farm looks great!
NASA mission Apollo 13 (April 11-17, 1970) to the moon was aborted and the crew was saved by ground support and the astronaut crew. One of the many items that help was a roll of duct tape that was used to build a CO2 filter. I would not be surprised if the mission also had a small roll of baling wire.
@@johnwasilewski7390 Coming back from the moon on a hope and a prayer.
ITS ok to scream (or say choice words) when something is going wrong! i got to where i used two hooks to move bales , that way your not dropping one kind of a hazard, could also loose it off and run over it sure you are hearing that. we had a NH stack wagon to pick up the bales but would buck the bales into the barn ( to short to get the wagon in raised up). . could you have been getting some loose hay in the mechanism ?noticed a lot in the belts around the rollers. i added grease lines to the twine arm and cutting mechanism underneath our hesston 565a.
Just keep tinkering with the square baler, you'll get it figured out. Could try using your go pro to video the tying part and watch it in slow motion to see what's going on.
square baler needs a good rub down and a decent lick of paint and a lot of maintenance with a decent engineer to make it work the right way
It don't need no paint or a wash just new parts
Good looking hay. The quality of feed will be great. Bailers are fussy and you did just fine.
What a hoot you two are 😀
Thx
Good video. We went from an old New Holland 68 with string tie to a newer John Deere baler and switched to 9600/210 twine and have pretty much zero broken bales. It’s amazing how stopping and rethreading the baler took so much time. We have since assed a 4x4 round baler and are getting our sea legs with it.
Hey Evan just wanted to let you know that you should honestly look into a twine baler instead or a slightly newer square baler that is better working condition than the one you are currently using because finding parts to fix your current one is really hard to find them and for your round baler I would look into getting a baler that makes the pick up header use hydraulics instead of doing it by hand because you constantly have to climb in and out of the tractor to make adjustments to the pickup header which makes it more difficult when you get older in age
You've gotta fix that hay binder.
Also, if you didn't know the more you manipulate the hay the more nutrients your loosing.
I have a vermeer and autotie gives me some problems just like yours did I think it is the nature of the beast just another day in the hayfield, great video bud .
hope you had a cool beer after that you deserved one
If you ever have hay like that clover that wasn't quite ready to bale or got wet try using salt. I've heard alot of people talk about using salt to draw the moisture out of the hay. It's always worked good for us.
Although it had its problems the square baler made a nice bale. Always a good feeling to have hay in the barn. Thanks for the video. All the best 🇬🇧.
Maybe ask the BALERMAN about you square baler he has you tube channel and is familiar with those old square balers.
I'm glad that you got that camera before it ended up in a bale of hay. I hope you didn't hurt yourself at all springing off the wagon like that.
Rebecca is great on the tractor and the baler. You are a lucky guy
Do you watch other RUclipsrs? You might contact a guy named Pete at "Just a Few Acres Farm." He uses a Gehl round baler similar to yours. Maybe he would have some ideas about what's wrong with your baler.
Well... this is ONE way to get the wife onboard with the idea of investing into a new baler. Of course, I guess it depends on what else is on the honey-do list and what your other equipment needs are... Maybe you can find a good used one or get better at repairing the this one. Either way it looks like a problem that needs solved. I find this fascinating... There was a time before the Industrial Revolution when BOTH parents... the whole family really... stayed home in order to harvest everything the family needed in order to survive off of their land. Everyone had a homestead... and there used to be conventions we adhered to... like, when you leave the homestead you are representing the family... even putting the family at some risk... so you ALWAYS traveled in "traveling clothes"... and you never traveled alone unless it was an absolute necessity. If you didn't know how to carry yourself... if you didn't know how to be courteous, you weren't allowed to leave the homestead. The whole idea was that the social contract demanded that you harm no others and you did NOT breech the peace... and so your dealings and conversations were designed NOT to be offensive - rather, to ALWAYS be courteous. So... for what it's worth... your upload today reminds me of those times. I think we'd all be better off if we kept our connection to the land.
This brings back a lot of fond memories used to do 2000ish straw bales and 500 -600 orchard grass bales just like this good way to grow up never regret it wish I could do it again
When square bales missed one side tie, we'd take the scrap twine/wire and quickly tie the bale like a suitcase around the untied side: Slip the free twine under the tied side where there was slack, push it to the end of the bale and tie it, keep tension on the bale to get the twine around the free side to the opposite end of the bale, put the lose twine end through a slack point of the still tied side, slide it to the end of the bale, than lean your body to compress the bale square, and tie the lose end. After a few of these we could do it on the wagon before the next bale came out of the chute. If both sides didn't tie you'd have to shut it all down, or if more than one broken bale came out in a row shut it down and adjust the knotters.
That is why I purchased new equipment. Don't have time to waste repairing the same equipment over and over again. College days were over for me more than 32 years ago. Good luck.
Let the baler run while being dumped
Need to pour used motor oil all over that wire in the spools. Get that stuff all soaked up. Make sure you grease every knotter fitting and use chain lube on all the moving parts chains ect. of the knotters. There is timing on the twister shafts/hooks where they need to be when the knotter trips and begins twisting and gripping. That timing gets out it sucks and you will fight it. Once you get the hang of wire knotters, they are actually superior over twine because they have higher tensile strength, don't stretch, and rats and mice wont chew through them in the barn. There is actually more of a chance of animals eating twine then any metal wire. Wire isn't cheap but broken bales are.
There’s probably something wrong within the baler that’s causing it not to automatically tie or to let you know which side of the baler chamber needs more hay on it
Those bells are hate breaking would drive me crazy keep up the good work
I've been out this weekend, too, baling hay with my very old low pressure baler. 260 bales of wonderful green gras hay and no major hickups. The 1st cut is all done and stored, this is always a wonderful feeling! :-)
Great video, thank you! Also nice catching the falling camera while you were also falling! - 6:27
Sprinkle stock salt on the green bales they will cure out an be fine
I have never seen a wire baler, only ever messed with twine in both the natural fiber and synthetic type.
We never took the last two bales out of the baler, never had that first loose bale.
I did it because I worked on the baler in the previous video.
I just recently found your videos and giving me inspiration about possibly starting my own farm one day
Cute boots 😁
You need some portable blower for dust😅😊
Evan, you know that hay baler will push those bales right up onto the wagon for you. You're not going to last a day pulling those bales up the chute like that. Simplify you movements. You don't have to drop the hook when stacking a bale. Swing the hook into the end of a bale and use the bailing wire/twine to lift the other end with your hand. That hay hook is going to end up in one of your wagon tires if you keep leaving it adrift on the deck.
Great stuff Evan and Rebecca!!! Thank you for sharing your journey!!! My suggestion, and it is probably worth what you have to pay for it, is to always tedder after cutting your grass !!! Please stay safe and God bless you all , in Jesus Name!!!! Eddy
YUP thats farming
Surprised to see you here. You've certainly had your share of farming and square baling woes.
Evan you should get in touch with "Just a few acres" He works on equipment and help with your balers if he is willing.
Awesome. A few pickups but you got it all finished. Well done.
Baled our orchard grass yesterday. Used an international wire tie small square baler. My son, my grandson and I. Best times !!!
New baler time.
Keep up the great work love your videos thank you more videos thank you
Just a FYI that might help you. And granted, I know nothing about a Gehl baler. Yours looks to be a newer more sophisticated model than my 648.
However, I noticed you turn off the PTO ( or the baler has a a declutch mechanism) when dumping a finished bale. I have a New Holland 648 auto wrap. Once the bale is the size you have set the auto wrap to start. A buzzer in the cab sounds . This notifies you to stop the tractor. The twine arms move automatically to distribute the twine across the bale. The buzzer sounds again one the twine is cut. You at that point. Raise the gate. The bale falls to the ground. A push bar. Holds the bale far enough from the baler. To allow the gate to close. Without hitting the bale. At that point you can resume baling. Where I have the number of wraps set. The time from first buzzer to the finished buzzer is about 15-16 seconds.
You’re not alone, I’m having the worst luck with my NH 269 baler on the right side , still don’t have it right after so many parts and adjustments 🙄
Cool to see you can bail round and square bails makes my day to see farm equipment at work thanks for sharing Evan
Looks like you got er figured out. Hire a couple of high school kids for a day to help you out. With two guys stacking on the rack, you on the bailer and Rebecca shuttling racks to the barn you’d easily finish in a day. Interlocking your bails on the rack will make it a lot more stable. Lay the first bail lengthwise front to back on the edge then the next 4 (2 side by side) lengthwise left to right. When you start the next layer reverse the order. I’ve thrown a lot of wire tied square bails trust me.
I have a wire baler ,a old timer told me to leave the wire in the box a dump used oil on it to keep it lubed up an from rusting not sure if it makes a difference
Evan when it comes to cutting and baling your hay, you need to step back and take another look. You slowed down your RPMs and then sped up when you were mowing it. As you now see you didn't cut half of it. You are doing a great job on everything else. Hang in there and better luck on your second cutting. Practice makes perfect.
At least the camera work was spot on and should have an A.
I just love the hay making videos we find them do relaxing 😅
Another fine video Evan, one thing looking at the second field brought to mind that the next time you cut it, remember to slow down since it isn't cutting well on the clover at the speed you were using. js
That’s par , I could never remember the size of shear bolts
I feel your pain brother about being super busy. Seems like the start of every summer it's go go go always something needing done that couldn't be done during cold weather.
I had better luck raking two windrows next to each other instead of into one big windrow. I had a New Holland 846(?) baler and with two windrows just close enough to fit the pickup I didn’t have to zig zag while baling to make a full bale
Rainy season is over for the midwest they say. Farms around me have baled a lot this past week.
I said a prayer for you an do u ever go back an pick up what got left over
Hello Evan Rebecca glad you were not hurt falling off wagon. I put the shoot up when going to the field. I like the wire tie makes good sense to have. The can recycle the wire.Your hay looked to dry but that's my opinion. Have a great day.
I remember them days of square bails. Our old Bailey took the twine. Unsure what year it was but it was older than me. I'm 57
You need to take that hay baler to the scrap yard and buy a new one.
You left the pickup head up to generate comments, right? That wood deck thing behind the baler is usually called a "wagon" around here those that call it a trailer are often from the city. The difference is it has steering wheels. Trailers on farms bear downward weight on the tractor towing them. But hey, it's tour farm, your channel, call it what you will. Enjoy your well made content and seeing your struggles as you improve your farm and operations.😅
No, I didn't realize it was up till I edited the Video. Somehow it came down part way through baling.
You might consider putting a backboard on the wagon to make stacking bales quicker.
I didn't hear you mention the dangers of storing damp hay in the barn.( Self igniting and burning down).
Good job!!! Thank God for the God hay bailing weather.
I did that 4 times in my whole life in Flora and Louisville!
We just saw a pasture today with all the halfbaked rolls in it!
Well, at least you got some hay now. Hope you get some rain so you can get a good second cutting. It's dry up this way, we got a half inch today. But that. will be gone tomorrow. Great video keep up the good work
Does the round baler have a piece of metal that is hinged and triggers the tie-off? The way it behaves suggests that there is something like that which loosens up after some bales have been made so it can work properly thereafter.
old guy tip... it's hard to see what the issue is sometimes with knotters and wire twisters it happens sooo fast... but... if you film the knotting action with a cell phone then you can s l o w it way down and see what's happening way better. are you sure the shear bolt isn't 5\16th most are?
We always sprinkled salt on the not quite dry bales,cut edge up.
You are very impressive to us good job
Good looking rolls
Writing the bolt size is fine. But thread count doesn't matter.
It could even be a metric bolt the same or similar size.
You might want to write down the grade number of the bolts whether it's grade 5 or some other grade number.
The shear bolts are not a standard bolt it takes a special shear bolt from Gehl
All that work shifting hay ,and NO ONE Sneezes, wow , hope ya don’t suffer with hay fever,or pollen
Great job..videos are so relaxing...love how you keep your cool as equipment breakdown I would have same luck....great that you explain all to us...take care...good job...see you soon !
Good job. 🙂