Considering glyphs are not maxed as well as aspects this BEAST performs really well using non-bugged Spirit hall so LOTS of room for improvement Not the most played spirit hall so I can see some changes incoming 👀 Build planner: mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/profile/cc3910a6-2ce7-4048-b28e-614ec80201b4/builds/5c0bc7b6-24f9-4a2a-87dd-dd21d420fd41 Live everyday: www.twitch.tv/ulfhednar
I respect that you aren't fully taking advantage of some of the bugs on spiritborn. No jaguar main spirit is awesome to see tbh. I've been wanting to do a thorns build for spiritborn since I got my first unique at lvl 25 which was razorplate when first playing the campaign. Now that my spiritborn is jacked I'll definitely have to try this build out!
hi Ulf, thx 4 your video. Payback looks so cool, can't wait to test it after completing pit 150 with bugged builds :D keep on doing your thing, you do a great job. See you on your Stream, greetings Gyldir
Another great build! I'm still running Rake Thorns, but getting frustrated by the lack of drops. I prefer to play solo and it's really rough. I hope they boost the drop rate of ancestral legendaries soon. I might create an alt and switch it up for a bit so I don't get burnt out.
I don't really see this as a Thorns build - it's basically the standard Payback build with a changed aspect. Thorns doesn't seem to be the large contributor of damage here. However, it does make for a nice headline to get people's attention...
I think builds like this will be the future of the class once bugs are sorted out. Personally, I am trying to get the weapon for basic attacks. I like basic attack builds and want to see how it performs. Honestly, I'll prob get disappointed, but it might be fun.
Thank you a lot! But why do we stack critical strike dmg when we dont have hight crit chance (I believe) and thorns cannot crit? Or with this build our dmg does not come only from thorns as with your other thorns builds?
I don’t think this would be top build if all bugs were fixed crushing hand would probably be better tbh. Because this build is using bug as well and the dmg would be wayyyy lower without it. As would all builds but very cool theory crafting. I dig it. Good job! 🤙🏼🤙🏼
I've been running this build since 4 days after the season drop and yeah.. its good.. only difference is im using Razorplate and Banished Lords for constant OP
@@UlfhednarTV indeed it is. I’ve completed pit 100 with this build. Still working of maxing out the glyphs I’m currently using but this build falls short because of the unique utilization I have going. It’s really good and covers certain things like All Res. Also it utilizes Rod Of Kep. I can link you to the build if don’t mind looking into it.
May have missed something but I can't figure out how every spiritborn is at max vigor constantly. Mine never goes above 20%. also. I got lucky and had a starless skies drop. is it worth using even if I have vigor problems or would I be better off just using a moonrise ring
@@briomhar5229 for regen its as follows - active ravager, sapping board node, midnight sun ring 50% max roll and that should do it! Starless cost reduction translates to damage with kepeleke staff instead
100% agreed. I really liked his previous thorn build. Wasnt the strongest but was so much fun not running what 90% was running. Was happy to see the next iteration but this wasnt it haha.
@Maginator1 exactly. Thorns isn't the strongest but it absolutely can be strong. I'm in t4 with a pure thorns build. And while it's not mopping the pits. It's fun and actually uses thorns to do damage
Definitely not a true thorns build. Build guide says Overpower is main damage source, which rings true since you're stacking max life. So really, you got Payback hitting hard but not thorns.
Considering glyphs are not maxed as well as aspects this BEAST performs really well using non-bugged Spirit hall so LOTS of room for improvement Not the most played spirit hall so I can see some changes incoming 👀
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I respect that you aren't fully taking advantage of some of the bugs on spiritborn. No jaguar main spirit is awesome to see tbh. I've been wanting to do a thorns build for spiritborn since I got my first unique at lvl 25 which was razorplate when first playing the campaign. Now that my spiritborn is jacked I'll definitely have to try this build out!
Been waiting all week for this🙏
Sorry had to wait until the patch that fixed 2 main things haha
hi Ulf, thx 4 your video. Payback looks so cool, can't wait to test it after completing pit 150 with bugged builds :D keep on doing your thing, you do a great job. See you on your Stream, greetings Gyldir
Thanks for watching brother!
Another great build! I'm still running Rake Thorns, but getting frustrated by the lack of drops. I prefer to play solo and it's really rough. I hope they boost the drop rate of ancestral legendaries soon. I might create an alt and switch it up for a bit so I don't get burnt out.
Sounds like a good plan! I am working on Barb myself
the Den gave me a few ancestral legendaries
I recommend the 6 wave hordes for quick ga items, hot the chest and get some gold or obs 🤷🏾♂️
Amazing build!
Glad you like it!
I don't really see this as a Thorns build - it's basically the standard Payback build with a changed aspect. Thorns doesn't seem to be the large contributor of damage here. However, it does make for a nice headline to get people's attention...
good stuff
I think builds like this will be the future of the class once bugs are sorted out. Personally, I am trying to get the weapon for basic attacks. I like basic attack builds and want to see how it performs. Honestly, I'll prob get disappointed, but it might be fun.
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Been running rock splitter build since expansion launch. Does great, but cant push pits well past 101 lol
I love all your non meta builds man! What should I use unless I have ss ring? An acenstral one is fine and what would be the aspecT?
@@ApexGamingMontage yessir slap moonrise or jaguar circle and affixes are life, atk speed, dex or resource cost reduction. Thanks for watching
@@UlfhednarTV Perfect! Also, would you go for a Razorplate double GA 115/200% or a 1 GA but 200/200%?
Hello, any alternatives instead of the Mythic Chest? Would Razorplate be good?
Yessir absolutely
Thank you a lot! But why do we stack critical strike dmg when we dont have hight crit chance (I believe) and thorns cannot crit? Or with this build our dmg does not come only from thorns as with your other thorns builds?
Our rune guarantees critical as well as overpower as explained in the video and kepeleke is also crit
@@UlfhednarTVthorns cannot crit??
@@lasertaco1452 can you read?
what aspect should i run on my ring if i dont have starless yet? moonrise?
Yessir either moonrise or even jaguar mystic circle would be INSANE, I need to find a way to use that aspect for this setup (activates from ravager)
Thx for that. How is working without Shroud of False Death ?
You just use Razorplate and can still hit for a trillion which I used before
I don’t think this would be top build if all bugs were fixed crushing hand would probably be better tbh. Because this build is using bug as well and the dmg would be wayyyy lower without it. As would all builds but very cool theory crafting. I dig it. Good job! 🤙🏼🤙🏼
I've been running this build since 4 days after the season drop and yeah.. its good.. only difference is im using Razorplate and Banished Lords for constant OP
I wish that amulet would work but Sadly Banished Lord Talisman does not make the Thorns hit crit, only overpower which is a huge damage loss
@@UlfhednarTV indeed it is. I’ve completed pit 100 with this build. Still working of maxing out the glyphs I’m currently using but this build falls short because of the unique utilization I have going. It’s really good and covers certain things like All Res. Also it utilizes Rod Of Kep. I can link you to the build if don’t mind looking into it.
@@1994quez sure thing!
@@UlfhednarTV discord is fine?
does Rod of Kepeleke works with payback? i thought its not a core skill.
Yessir it does. The passive upgrade for Payback is making it a core skill
So I follow this build… but how are you getting the fortify?!
from Raheir his left side ability when he auto attacks gives you fortify
May have missed something but I can't figure out how every spiritborn is at max vigor constantly. Mine never goes above 20%. also. I got lucky and had a starless skies drop. is it worth using even if I have vigor problems or would I be better off just using a moonrise ring
@@briomhar5229 for regen its as follows - active ravager, sapping board node, midnight sun ring 50% max roll and that should do it! Starless cost reduction translates to damage with kepeleke staff instead
@@UlfhednarTV Ah i see. I maybe don't have sapping node yet. cheers
Why do you have points into potent and furnace when the attack you're dealing damage with isn't a jaguar skill?
@@CayossAda as mentioned in the video Ravager is active buff like an aura that procs these passives
@@UlfhednarTV Thank you
Yeah calling this a thorns build is a real stretch. Its just a overpower payback build with thorns sprinkled on it
100% agreed. I really liked his previous thorn build. Wasnt the strongest but was so much fun not running what 90% was running. Was happy to see the next iteration but this wasnt it haha.
@Maginator1 exactly. Thorns isn't the strongest but it absolutely can be strong. I'm in t4 with a pure thorns build. And while it's not mopping the pits. It's fun and actually uses thorns to do damage
what are these numbers man, half a trillion dmg okay
Yeah pretty wild brotherrr
I'm stuck to T2 and this build is trash for most of the time. I got all legendaries except interdiction. but I'm getting oneshot all the time.
Definitely not a true thorns build. Build guide says Overpower is main damage source, which rings true since you're stacking max life. So really, you got Payback hitting hard but not thorns.
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@@UlfhednarTV does thorn have critical damage, if not ,what the staff for?
@@Daleyoung-p1s that crit dmg scaling from resource spent still adds to our big hits from overpower rune