@@epsyfn Nice! I swear to Logitech and all my gear is from Logitech, but i just got my Arctis Nova Pro and would like to test out this keyboard and Aerox 9.. so I am concidering it.
Ive ordered the wired version while on sale, lets see how well it holds up! Its up against a Gamdias hermes ultimate with mx reds in it that ive used every day for like 10 years. i still can´t feel a different between the WASD keys thats been used alot and, i dont know the pause/break switch which is practicly unused so!
Dear consumers beware of purchasing Steelseries 2022 wireless keyboards and if you take a few moments to read this article, you will understand the theory that leads you to buy them and why you should avoid that at all costs so you don't find yourself in the same situation like me. Also, there is a message for Steelseries to take some notes for future untested released launched in a hurry. I recently purchased a keyboard from Steelseries, the Apex Pro Mini Wireless but I had to return it because I couldn't accept the software errors it came with, especially since the list price is much higher than other commercial keyboards on the market. It's a shame because it's a well-balanced keyboard from a mechanical point of view, of the materials used, and it's a pleasure to use it for typing. Unfortunately, I didn't get to test it on the entertainment side because of certain errors and I still regret that I couldn't reach a compromise to avoid the return. I would like for them to solve the following issues from the software, which represent the reasons why I made the return: The battery, according to the software, lasts less than the specified time. The transition from 100% to 85% is done quickly, in less than an hour with the brightness kept at maximum, on the wireless function. It is not a factory defect or a software issue because I got a confirmation from 2 other people that tried this keyboard and stated that the battery fully depleted under 10h of usage. It's not designed to be used at maximum brightness! PLEASE STEELSERIES, DO SPECIFY THE BATTERY CONDITIONS OF USAGE, AS THIS IS VERY MISLEADING! You cannot completely disable the "Escape" key light manually or through software while charging in wired mode so that it no longer flashes with a different color than the rest, green. Also, once it is fully charged, 100%, the key stays lit in the respective color (Green Lantern Mode). This is specified in the user manual, but it should be a choice for the consumer and should permit the option to disable it in the software. Below I have attached 2 official photos from Rtings.com with the keyboard at maximum and minimum brightness. It is a distracting feature and basically you cannot use it wired due to the intensity of the key that stays lit at maximum brightness. Don't think this feature will be removed since it's designed that way and nothing was done since it was released, a few months ago. Since the battery doesn't last that long (a lot less than 30h with max brightness) you will find yourself in need to often plug the cable. The battery charging indicator is really a troublesome feature. It makes more sense for them to implement a 3 button press feature with the escape key included to indicate the battery level from F1 to F10 in 10% gradients without having to check the software and if they still want to keep the function of the blinking green color to include it there, but on press, to indicate that it's charging! i.rtings.com/assets/products/nlKpqxOP/steelseries-apex-pro-mini-wireless/brightness-max-large.jpg i.rtings.com/assets/products/GR7Ezkta/steelseries-apex-pro-mini-wireless/brightness-min-large.jpg Switching from idle to pairing on Bluetooth is not fast after entering the battery conservation mode, when the functions are closed. The color profiles for the lights do not remain set, if the connection with the dedicated software is lost. As long as the switch is made to another device where the software is not installed or supported, it will not allow them to be kept. To set the colors, the connection to the software is always necessary because only 5 light effects can be adjusted from the keyboard functions and it is not possible to select, for example, the color Orange or White (also recommended not to strain your eyes), reference colors associated with the Steelseries brand. Also, the effects cannot be set directly from the keyboard, present on previous models. For devices that come with IOS, the wake up function is not compatible, without the need to connect the USB-C receiver, for stability. Once one function on the key is replaced by another, from the software, the keyboard simply freezes and you have to switch it off and on. Also, in the reviews made by the online promoters, for this model, these aspects were not discussed, mentioned, and i wish that the respective information was more transparent because, after all, we are the consumers. Everything they mentioned negatively was related to the high price, stating the obvious. I would like Steelseries to do something about the user's choices in the software so that all settings can be saved on both Bluetooth / Wired / Wireless on a single profile and to be able to configure the effects and colors without depending entirely on the software. In their defense, the company does make quality products, though i don’t think they proceeded in the right way with the wireless variant, especially on the marketing side since they weren’t that transparent nor tried to fix some of the mentioned issues, since it was released. What's important is the action Steelseries should take after these constructive feedback. Also, I wish they offered a better support since I tried to contact them about this problems and got evasive responses. If you are unsure about this keyboard, undecided to buy it and wondering if some mentioned features, software issues have been fixed, that information can be checked here techblog.steelseries.com/ UPDATE 1: I bought another unit to test it more rigorously and after it was completely discharged it didn't want to charge overnight above 60%, it froze at that threshold! To fix this issue, I had to unplug and plug the wire! I want to mention that I had several keyboards from other manufacturers and so far I have not got my hands on any that had this many problems at once! I ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY FAR AWAY FROM THE WIRELESS VERSION! I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT AT ALL SINCE YOU WILL MOST LIKELY RETURN IT. ALSO, IF YOU FINALLY DECIDE TO GIVE IT A GO, DON'T THINK ABOUT TRYING YOUR LUCK WITH ANOTHER UNIT SINCE THEY ALL HAVE THESE PROBLEMS! I'm "GLAD" that instead of focusing on fixing these issues for products already released in the market and taking into account what other consumers are saying, they did the exact opposite and rushed with the release of the TKL APEX PRO WIRELESS VERSION... If it will have the same problems, it will simply cause you to lose all trust and hope in the company. HAVING AN AWESOME DESIGN, BEING COMPACT AND COMFORTABLE TO TYPE ON DOESN'T WORTH ALL THE OTHER HEADACHES IT COMES WITH! BATTERY ISSUES + GREEN FLASHES (acute dizziness) = UNACCEPTABLE! UPDATE 2: It took 7 hours to charge from 60% to 80%, and after i plug out the cable, the battery immediately dropped from 80% to 70% and apart from that i experienced another issue with 2 keys ("enter" + "" keys) that weren't responsive in terms of RGB colors. Those buttons were also deactivated from the GG software and they were grayed out, undetectable, impossible to select. Switched on and off the keyboard multiple times, switching between connectivity features, until they became responsive and I could again select them but that also reset the color selected for the other key lights. GOT ALMOST HALF A BATTERY THAT WILL LAST 5 INSTEAD OF 10 HOURS, GG = GOOD GAME! STEELSERIES THIS IS BEYOND RIDICULOUS! YOU ARE MESSING WITH YOUR CONSUMERS BIG TIME! FIX THE EXISTENT ISSUES BEFORE RELEASING OTHER PRODUCTS! If you can't possibly fix them after 2 months do what's expected of you and arrange a mass recall.
dont let negative reviews sway you. Every person that talks negatively about a product like this, theres thousands of satisfied customers. Though if any of the things mentioned (that are 100% occurance like the light) then yea consider something else.@@PikaPower131313
I first had a huntsman mini then went to the apex pro tkl absolutely hated how loud the keys are. But more annoying was the keys wobbling horrible while playing. How people can stand this is beyond me. Then I went to the huntsman v2 tkl and even more steady keys than the huntsman mini.
me from huntsman mini red I did some mod on it (Lubed + foam mod) then I sold it for $75 ($54 in USD) then I bought custom keyboard prebuilt AKKO ACR75 for $160 ($115 in USD) with Gateron Milky Yellow (Lubed + Filmed) I did some mod on it. Yeah, I still love my Huntsman Mini Red even tho it needs a little fix to remove those rattly problem..
believe me don't buy it , I just returned it with the lights off the battery last only two days and charging the keyboard from 0 to 100 takes like 6 and half hours. the switches super smooth and the keycaps other than that not worth buying it
I need to hear from people who are into wireless keyboards (especially for gaming). Why? Yo, why? For real. I have a wireless keyboard I use for work. That’s for functionality. I have two work laptops and also a personal laptop and the Logitech MX series lets me transition mouse and keyboard with the touch of a button. All of that is in the Mac world. I do have a PC for gaming. I have a keyboard with a cable. With a mouse it makes SOME sense to have it wireless. You move the mouse constantly and it can get caught on things. I still use a wired mouse for gaming. I’ve never once had to interrupt my gaming with friends to swap batteries or to plug something in. What is it you gain from having a wireless gaming keyboard? It’s just … for the sake of not having that wire that isn’t in your way? How much more would you pay for this? They seem to be charging a lot of money for the addition of wireless. How many hours of your current hourly rate would you have to work to pay for this one feature, that doesn’t seem to be needed at all?
I won't buy wireless keyboard as there's no need for me but my friend who has PC at home and at cabin has only one good wireless gaming keyboard and just takes it with him. Also apparently uses the keyboard with his laptop as well. For some people it's ofc about aesthetic and getting as clean setup as possible.
personally find it distracting to have a wire as my pc isn't placed in an area which makes it easy to hide these, also i enjoy a clean aesthetic and the ability to just move my keyboard off my desk when i ned space for other tasks.
1. Better cable management 2. Bluetooth isn’t slow. It’s practically the same speed as a wired cable depending on a lot of factors but it’s roughly around the same so there is no down side 3. It just looks cleaner having no cables especially if you want your setup to look clean/minimalistic.
now that was a proper sound test
I’m getting this today so hopefully it maximises my gaming abilities
How is it so far? :)
@@Niiipon it’s so good, I can tell a pretty big difference from my huntsman mini
@@epsyfn Nice! I swear to Logitech and all my gear is from Logitech, but i just got my Arctis Nova Pro and would like to test out this keyboard and Aerox 9.. so I am concidering it.
It feels faster than my hubtman but my scores are the same
This will my first mechanical keyboard for Mac
Ive ordered the wired version while on sale, lets see how well it holds up! Its up against a Gamdias hermes ultimate with mx reds in it that ive used every day for like 10 years. i still can´t feel a different between the WASD keys thats been used alot and, i dont know the pause/break switch which is practicly unused so!
Does the actuation point also change the reset actuation point? I’ve been trying to find what the reset distance is and I can’t find it anywhere.
Dear consumers beware of purchasing Steelseries 2022 wireless keyboards and if you take a few moments to read this article, you will understand the theory that leads you to buy them and why you should avoid that at all costs so you don't find yourself in the same situation like me. Also, there is a message for Steelseries to take some notes for future untested released launched in a hurry.
I recently purchased a keyboard from Steelseries, the Apex Pro Mini Wireless but I had to return it because I couldn't accept the software errors it came with, especially since the list price is much higher than other commercial keyboards on the market.
It's a shame because it's a well-balanced keyboard from a mechanical point of view, of the materials used, and it's a pleasure to use it for typing.
Unfortunately, I didn't get to test it on the entertainment side because of certain errors and I still regret that I couldn't reach a compromise to avoid the return.
I would like for them to solve the following issues from the software, which represent the reasons why I made the return:
The battery, according to the software, lasts less than the specified time. The transition from 100% to 85% is done quickly, in less than an hour with the brightness kept at maximum, on the wireless function. It is not a factory defect or a software issue because I got a confirmation from 2 other people that tried this keyboard and stated that the battery fully depleted under 10h of usage. It's not designed to be used at maximum brightness!
PLEASE STEELSERIES, DO SPECIFY THE BATTERY CONDITIONS OF USAGE, AS THIS IS VERY MISLEADING!
You cannot completely disable the "Escape" key light manually or through software while charging in wired mode so that it no longer flashes with a different color than the rest, green. Also, once it is fully charged, 100%, the key stays lit in the respective color (Green Lantern Mode). This is specified in the user manual, but it should be a choice for the consumer and should permit the option to disable it in the software. Below I have attached 2 official photos from Rtings.com with the keyboard at maximum and minimum brightness. It is a distracting feature and basically you cannot use it wired due to the intensity of the key that stays lit at maximum brightness. Don't think this feature will be removed since it's designed that way and nothing was done since it was released, a few months ago. Since the battery doesn't last that long (a lot less than 30h with max brightness) you will find yourself in need to often plug the cable. The battery charging indicator is really a troublesome feature.
It makes more sense for them to implement a 3 button press feature with the escape key included to indicate the battery level from F1 to F10 in 10% gradients without having to check the software and if they still want to keep the function of the blinking green color to include it there, but on press, to indicate that it's charging!
i.rtings.com/assets/products/nlKpqxOP/steelseries-apex-pro-mini-wireless/brightness-max-large.jpg
i.rtings.com/assets/products/GR7Ezkta/steelseries-apex-pro-mini-wireless/brightness-min-large.jpg
Switching from idle to pairing on Bluetooth is not fast after entering the battery conservation mode, when the functions are closed.
The color profiles for the lights do not remain set, if the connection with the dedicated software is lost. As long as the switch is made to another device where the software is not installed or supported, it will not allow them to be kept.
To set the colors, the connection to the software is always necessary because only 5 light effects can be adjusted from the keyboard functions and it is not possible to select, for example, the color Orange or White (also recommended not to strain your eyes), reference colors associated with the Steelseries brand. Also, the effects cannot be set directly from the keyboard, present on previous models.
For devices that come with IOS, the wake up function is not compatible, without the need to connect the USB-C receiver, for stability.
Once one function on the key is replaced by another, from the software, the keyboard simply freezes and you have to switch it off and on.
Also, in the reviews made by the online promoters, for this model, these aspects were not discussed, mentioned, and i wish that the respective information was more transparent because, after all, we are the consumers. Everything they mentioned negatively was related to the high price, stating the obvious.
I would like Steelseries to do something about the user's choices in the software so that all settings can be saved on both Bluetooth / Wired / Wireless on a single profile and to be able to configure the effects and colors without depending entirely on the software.
In their defense, the company does make quality products, though i don’t think they proceeded in the right way with the wireless variant, especially on the marketing side since they weren’t that transparent nor tried to fix some of the mentioned issues, since it was released.
What's important is the action Steelseries should take after these constructive feedback. Also, I wish they offered a better support since I tried to contact them about this problems and got evasive responses.
If you are unsure about this keyboard, undecided to buy it and wondering if some mentioned features, software issues have been fixed, that information can be checked here techblog.steelseries.com/
UPDATE 1:
I bought another unit to test it more rigorously and after it was completely discharged it didn't want to charge overnight above 60%, it froze at that threshold! To fix this issue, I had to unplug and plug the wire! I want to mention that I had several keyboards from other manufacturers and so far I have not got my hands on any that had this many problems at once!
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY FAR AWAY FROM THE WIRELESS VERSION! I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT AT ALL SINCE YOU WILL MOST LIKELY RETURN IT. ALSO, IF YOU FINALLY DECIDE TO GIVE IT A GO, DON'T THINK ABOUT TRYING YOUR LUCK WITH ANOTHER UNIT SINCE THEY ALL HAVE THESE PROBLEMS!
I'm "GLAD" that instead of focusing on fixing these issues for products already released in the market and taking into account what other consumers are saying, they did the exact opposite and rushed with the release of the TKL APEX PRO WIRELESS VERSION... If it will have the same problems, it will simply cause you to lose all trust and hope in the company.
HAVING AN AWESOME DESIGN, BEING COMPACT AND COMFORTABLE TO TYPE ON DOESN'T WORTH ALL THE OTHER HEADACHES IT COMES WITH!
BATTERY ISSUES + GREEN FLASHES (acute dizziness) = UNACCEPTABLE!
UPDATE 2:
It took 7 hours to charge from 60% to 80%, and after i plug out the cable, the battery immediately dropped from 80% to 70% and apart from that i experienced another issue with 2 keys ("enter" + "" keys) that weren't responsive in terms of RGB colors. Those buttons were also deactivated from the GG software and they were grayed out, undetectable, impossible to select. Switched on and off the keyboard multiple times, switching between connectivity features, until they became responsive and I could again select them but that also reset the color selected for the other key lights.
GOT ALMOST HALF A BATTERY THAT WILL LAST 5 INSTEAD OF 10 HOURS, GG = GOOD GAME!
STEELSERIES THIS IS BEYOND RIDICULOUS! YOU ARE MESSING WITH YOUR CONSUMERS BIG TIME! FIX THE EXISTENT ISSUES BEFORE RELEASING OTHER PRODUCTS!
If you can't possibly fix them after 2 months do what's expected of you and arrange a mass recall.
Wow I’m at the store about to buy it and a read this. Thanks for the heads up 👍🏻
dont let negative reviews sway you. Every person that talks negatively about a product like this, theres thousands of satisfied customers. Though if any of the things mentioned (that are 100% occurance like the light) then yea consider something else.@@PikaPower131313
I first had a huntsman mini then went to the apex pro tkl absolutely hated how loud the keys are. But more annoying was the keys wobbling horrible while playing. How people can stand this is beyond me. Then I went to the huntsman v2 tkl and even more steady keys than the huntsman mini.
me from huntsman mini red I did some mod on it (Lubed + foam mod) then I sold it for $75 ($54 in USD) then I bought custom keyboard prebuilt AKKO ACR75 for $160 ($115 in USD) with Gateron Milky Yellow (Lubed + Filmed) I did some mod on it. Yeah, I still love my Huntsman Mini Red even tho it needs a little fix to remove those rattly problem..
managed to get one from prime day, thank god I didn’t pay full price for this haha
sup i wuant 0 delay playing if i choose the wireless version instead of the version with cable will i feel any delay?
The delay will be minimal that it is barely noticeable assuming there is no interference
Can you play with that keyboard on xbox series s?
yes
believe me don't buy it , I just returned it with the lights off the battery last only two days and charging the keyboard from 0 to 100 takes like 6 and half hours. the switches super smooth and the keycaps other than that not worth buying it
coulda got a 5800X for the price of the thing.
I need to hear from people who are into wireless keyboards (especially for gaming).
Why?
Yo, why? For real. I have a wireless keyboard I use for work. That’s for functionality. I have two work laptops and also a personal laptop and the Logitech MX series lets me transition mouse and keyboard with the touch of a button. All of that is in the Mac world.
I do have a PC for gaming. I have a keyboard with a cable.
With a mouse it makes SOME sense to have it wireless. You move the mouse constantly and it can get caught on things. I still use a wired mouse for gaming. I’ve never once had to interrupt my gaming with friends to swap batteries or to plug something in.
What is it you gain from having a wireless gaming keyboard? It’s just … for the sake of not having that wire that isn’t in your way?
How much more would you pay for this? They seem to be charging a lot of money for the addition of wireless. How many hours of your current hourly rate would you have to work to pay for this one feature, that doesn’t seem to be needed at all?
I won't buy wireless keyboard as there's no need for me but my friend who has PC at home and at cabin has only one good wireless gaming keyboard and just takes it with him. Also apparently uses the keyboard with his laptop as well.
For some people it's ofc about aesthetic and getting as clean setup as possible.
personally find it distracting to have a wire as my pc isn't placed in an area which makes it easy to hide these, also i enjoy a clean aesthetic and the ability to just move my keyboard off my desk when i ned space for other tasks.
to flex on the brokies
1. Better cable management
2. Bluetooth isn’t slow. It’s practically the same speed as a wired cable depending on a lot of factors but it’s roughly around the same so there is no down side
3. It just looks cleaner having no cables especially if you want your setup to look clean/minimalistic.
I have a big OLED TV connected to my system so I need wireless keyboard when in need but tbh I still dont find this good enough for the job.
when a company does as many ads as SteelSeries, they have to gain profit margins elsewhere, so we get overpriced and often shitty products.
xd