Mid-Drive motors have True torque. Hub motors only have Torque with Rider assisting (pedaling) on the lower end. Like you noted, the Dual motor has much more low-end torque, however.
The Aniioki A9 and A8 (I have the dual motor version), because of their sheer weight, are better suited for street use. Unless necessary, I wouldn't take either off-road (short of upgrading both front and rear suspension... and even then, an e-moto remains preferable). As for the road, range anxiety is no longer an issue for my needs (30-50 miles, going between 60-80% throttle based on 45mph max, for this 270+ lbs rider). I think you might be surprised by the performance of the A9 dual motor.
This thing makes sense. It can go 37 mph for 55 miles. 2kw draw on 3kw battery is 1.5 hours at max throttle. Farthest destination I want to travel is 30 miles out so I can do it at 34 mph(80 percent throttle).
This bike ROCKS. I have 400+ miles on it. Not sure what the torque complaint is all about. I'm 50 lbs. heavier than the guy riding, and have no issues at all with torque. It eats trails. Glad you were able to recover from the trail suprise! Been there! I'm wondering if the CST tires came with the bike? my A9 came with Aniioki tires which are good. And this nonsense about 35MPH?? not sure of the settings that were used to get that pathetic number was. I have had my A9 way faster than what i'm reading in the articles posted. The Aniioki A9 is the current fastest production ebike shipped with pedals on the market for 2025 priced at 3K.
@@ENDOPRYSMofficial Did'nt know it was sold with a single motor. You will like the dual motor. Separate controllers for each motor also. A much different bike than the A8.
Hi! This info of lake of torque maybe not right. Possible wrong settings. All reviews I've seen, no one blames about low torque! I am waiting that Aniioki ships this ebike to my country and I have to know if this info is okay or not. I am 6.3ft 275lb! ... Maybe is better the dual motor version but will pay much attention to the cops... Damn!!
the a8 is the smaller version minus the front blinkers i am 5,7 an i raised it up one notch btw. so all that it needs is an 20 inch wheel variation for a9 an you set for front blinkers its only on a9 i have wiring knowledge so ill mount an y 12vdc plug from the controller to mod my a8 for front blinkers support. next note, light wight gas motorcycles of old used to be around 280 pounds, they are around 300+ now a days so its under 50% lighter then modern gas motorcycles. law note 50 miles is the max limit by law requiring an m1 motorcycles ID plate so long as you mod it to an max of 49 miles you safer by the law as of 2024. meaning American federal states it supersedes state laws speed tickers wise that's what you can argue, if a cop gives you an, HARD TIME. so on sidewalks with pedal bikes it 30 mph since you have pedals. extra extra note, to go into settings with hard left button press in their you can change the bikes max speed an even the bikes max eco speed. so if you want eco to be an max of 25 it can be done via speed adjust also you can adjust the response of the break sensors via an different setting id screen shot your settings before you ever adjust them too by the way. with dual motors you can be bucked so id recommend swamping the throttle for an half one for extra safety. also you can set each motor to have different max eco speeds, if you have dual motors.
I would switch out the 20 x 4 front tire with a 20 x 3" street tire. It will eliminate the tire noise and offer less rolling resistance. I purchased the YUNSCM street tires with the intention of replacing both but after only replacing the front tire the noise is completely gone.
God, I really want to hear about this and if the information is correct too. It would be very interesting if it could go 200 miles while top speed is 70mph
You have no understanding of how electric vehicles work. Even if this bike was capable of 70mph which it is not drawing 10k-12k watts needed for 70mph would drain a 3kw battery(52v60ah) from 100 percent to zero in 15 miles. Even the best e-motorcycles on the market that cost around 25K can only go about 150 miles on a charge at 70 mph. The highest end ebike you can get for under 5 grand is Motor Goat V3 with extended battery which would cost about 4500 bucks and would let you ride at it's top speed of 45-48 mph for about 80 miles. This bike on this video is the best bang for the buck e-bike on the market now and the Wired Freedom/Cruiser is a very close second.
Have you had any problems with the display cutting off? I've heard several people complain about the A8/V7 doing this and it looks like the same display.
Worlds largest vs smallest e-bike🤣 I still have it I’m just waiting on some parts for it that I messed up and they are being held by customs for no reason
@@ENDOPRYSMofficial Now that sounds like a feature length episode Ebike David & Goliath - facing off head to head: tug of war, top speed race , carrying a passenger/bag of groceries. Turtle and the hare long distance race ... potential comedy gold .
I would like to see the a9 dual and compare it to lyric graffiti x. I'm not super interested in off road aspect, more the practical range and speed for commuting along with comfort. Lastly I'm wondering if either has a add on or removable speed regulator. Something that is I was to get asked by police I could prove it's governed. I want the power there, but I want a switch I can toggle to restrict it where appropriate. That way I can say sure try it price you can go faster. The idea I'm thinking is tie a magnetic read switch to that switch so that if I get off the bike it's normal state is governed for any other rider. I mechanical switch with a read bypass.
Hey endoprysm so I just finished my enduro e-bike build I followed your tutorial I took it out for a test ride denned fine but then my rear wheel locked up and was extremely hard to turn I also had a ho2 error but I took of the tire and it went away so would you know anything about that rear wheel? Thanks!
Took off the tire? Interesting. I would play with the settings in the controllers app and most importantly make sure you run that hall sensor test. Take things slow and tweak it as you go. Let me know how it works out for you.
I can get a 5000w for 1300 hundred and it's lighter and cheaper i kind of happy i did not get it it does look nice and a beast tho it's because i already have a big bike
Hi there this a sweat bike but is it legal on our roadways the answer is NO it is not why the federal lay and most state laws state this no e-bike on the road with a motor over 750 watts period so if you get into an accident or pulled over you are screwed buy smart ride legal and have a blast as I am riding my legal e-bike on public roadways
I think this is one of my new dream bikes.
The Wallke H9 AWD was my dream bike until I got it. The grass looks green on the other side until you get there and all you find are weeds.
This Was a bike I was looking to buy but they don't supply that model to Europe.
Mid-Drive motors have True torque. Hub motors only have Torque with Rider assisting (pedaling) on the lower end. Like you noted, the Dual motor has much more low-end torque, however.
The Aniioki A9 and A8 (I have the dual motor version), because of their sheer weight, are better suited for street use. Unless necessary, I wouldn't take either off-road (short of upgrading both front and rear suspension... and even then, an e-moto remains preferable).
As for the road, range anxiety is no longer an issue for my needs (30-50 miles, going between 60-80% throttle based on 45mph max, for this 270+ lbs rider).
I think you might be surprised by the performance of the A9 dual motor.
Love your videos. You sound great and clear. What is your mic set up
DJI mic 2 I have it on the inside of my helmet right next to my mouth with the gain set to -12
This thing makes sense. It can go 37 mph for 55 miles. 2kw draw on 3kw battery is 1.5 hours at max throttle. Farthest destination I want to travel is 30 miles out so I can do it at 34 mph(80 percent throttle).
This bike ROCKS. I have 400+ miles on it. Not sure what the torque complaint is all about. I'm 50 lbs. heavier than the guy riding, and have no issues at all with torque. It eats trails. Glad you were able to recover from the trail suprise! Been there! I'm wondering if the CST tires came with the bike? my A9 came with Aniioki tires which are good. And this nonsense about 35MPH?? not sure of the settings that were used to get that pathetic number was. I have had my A9 way faster than what i'm reading in the articles posted. The Aniioki A9 is the current fastest production ebike shipped with pedals on the market for 2025 priced at 3K.
This is the single motor bike. Priced at 2k. Anioki is going to send me the upgrade parts to make it dual motor so I’m excited for that.
@@ENDOPRYSMofficial Did'nt know it was sold with a single motor. You will like the dual motor. Separate controllers for each motor also. A much different bike than the A8.
Hi! This info of lake of torque maybe not right. Possible wrong settings. All reviews I've seen, no one blames about low torque! I am waiting that Aniioki ships this ebike to my country and I have to know if this info is okay or not. I am 6.3ft 275lb! ... Maybe is better the dual motor version but will pay much attention to the cops... Damn!!
Nicely Done! Thanks so much!
the a8 is the smaller version minus the front blinkers i am 5,7 an i raised it up one notch btw. so all that it needs is an 20 inch wheel variation for a9 an you set for front blinkers its only on a9 i have wiring knowledge so ill mount an y 12vdc plug from the controller to mod my a8 for front blinkers support. next note, light wight gas motorcycles of old used to be around 280 pounds, they are around 300+ now a days so its under 50% lighter then modern gas motorcycles. law note 50 miles is the max limit by law requiring an m1 motorcycles ID plate so long as you mod it to an max of 49 miles you safer by the law as of 2024. meaning American federal states it supersedes state laws speed tickers wise that's what you can argue, if a cop gives you an, HARD TIME. so on sidewalks with pedal bikes it 30 mph since you have pedals.
extra extra note, to go into settings with hard left button press in their you can change the bikes max speed an even the bikes max eco speed. so if you want eco to be an max of 25 it can be done via speed adjust also you can adjust the response of the break sensors via an different setting id screen shot your settings before you ever adjust them too by the way. with dual motors you can be bucked so id recommend swamping the throttle for an half one for extra safety. also you can set each motor to have different max eco speeds, if you have dual motors.
I would switch out the 20 x 4 front tire with a 20 x 3" street tire. It will eliminate the tire noise and offer less rolling resistance. I purchased the YUNSCM street tires with the intention of replacing both but after only replacing the front tire the noise is completely gone.
Should have a 3000-5000w rear motor.
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Hills, get the one made for that, the dual motor, smaller wheels, get the a8
I think they have a 20x4" wheel version of that.
It’s the a8 and it has different forks and power level.
duo motor are a most
God, I really want to hear about this and if the information is correct too. It would be very interesting if it could go 200 miles while top speed is 70mph
You have no understanding of how electric vehicles work. Even if this bike was capable of 70mph which it is not drawing 10k-12k watts needed for 70mph would drain a 3kw battery(52v60ah) from 100 percent to zero in 15 miles. Even the best e-motorcycles on the market that cost around 25K can only go about 150 miles on a charge at 70 mph. The highest end ebike you can get for under 5 grand is Motor Goat V3 with extended battery which would cost about 4500 bucks and would let you ride at it's top speed of 45-48 mph for about 80 miles. This bike on this video is the best bang for the buck e-bike on the market now and the Wired Freedom/Cruiser is a very close second.
8:05 You sure? You know setting at 1 is max and at 3 is minimum right?
1 is minimum and 4 is max
I thought this only came in a dual motor??
Have you had any problems with the display cutting off? I've heard several people complain about the A8/V7 doing this and it looks like the same display.
Oh please put this bike beside that comically tiny Tuttio soliel 01 you had last month just so we can get a laugh!.
I’m gonna do that tomorrow and post it trust.
Worlds largest vs smallest e-bike🤣 I still have it I’m just waiting on some parts for it that I messed up and they are being held by customs for no reason
@@ENDOPRYSMofficial Now that sounds like a feature length episode Ebike David & Goliath - facing off head to head: tug of war, top speed race , carrying a passenger/bag of groceries. Turtle and the hare long distance race ... potential comedy gold .
I would like to see the a9 dual and compare it to lyric graffiti x. I'm not super interested in off road aspect, more the practical range and speed for commuting along with comfort.
Lastly I'm wondering if either has a add on or removable speed regulator. Something that is I was to get asked by police I could prove it's governed. I want the power there, but I want a switch I can toggle to restrict it where appropriate. That way I can say sure try it price you can go faster.
The idea I'm thinking is tie a magnetic read switch to that switch so that if I get off the bike it's normal state is governed for any other rider. I mechanical switch with a read bypass.
IS THE HANDLE ADJUSTABLE?
Would you do s review on there pro max 8
Put a real hub motor on it. Only problem is the bms low amp output
35? I have the lower model (A8 pro max),and i got 43
Hey endoprysm so I just finished my enduro e-bike build I followed your tutorial I took it out for a test ride denned fine but then my rear wheel locked up and was extremely hard to turn I also had a ho2 error but I took of the tire and it went away so would you know anything about that rear wheel? Thanks!
Took off the tire? Interesting. I would play with the settings in the controllers app and most importantly make sure you run that hall sensor test. Take things slow and tweak it as you go. Let me know how it works out for you.
Ok thanks I did run the test but I’ll run it again
35MPH? My A-9 Pro Max "dual motor" has a ton of torque and easily does 45 all day
Single motor. [nerfed version)
Siiik
I can get a 5000w for 1300 hundred and it's lighter and cheaper i kind of happy i did not get it it does look nice and a beast tho it's because i already have a big bike
Hi there this a sweat bike but is it legal on our roadways the answer is NO it is not why the federal lay and most state laws state this no e-bike on the road with a motor over 750 watts period so if you get into an accident or pulled over you are screwed buy smart ride legal and have a blast as I am riding my legal e-bike on public roadways
Hey man, hit me up if you need some editing done :)
Email me-business email is in channel description. I’m good for now but if I need it I’ll let yk.