My personal trainer is awesome, He does a great job teaching correct form for all the major lifts, along with the importance of warming up. He has helped me improve my strength a lot over the years. He also makes videos, so I can go back and review things whenever I want and best of all he charges me nothing. He also has an awesome beard. His name is Alan Thrall and has taught me almost everything I know about lifting.
Alright everyone, If you have any cringeworthy personal training stories please share.. Also, let's hear some of the outrageous prices you guys have paid for PT. I've heard some people who pay $600 per month!
The guy that manages the gym I go to, which is actually an overall pretty nice place to go for 15 bucks a month, does claim he invented "A revolutionary, high speed workout using both weights and body weight" also known to most people as, crossfit.
Well, it's nothing cringeworthy, but in my gym there is a trainer that is supposed to "supervise" the people (you know, in case they do something wrong to prevent injuries or equipment damage). But man does he suck, he never corrects anyone even if they do a cat back while deadlifting, and most of the time he is not even there because he is too buisy talking with a lady in the lobby. It fucking triggers me.
One time i was deadlifting on my own and i heard the guy talking to a client how bad lifting heavy weight is (it was just a high 300lbs) He said, in 10 years i would wish, that i never did that! All this deadlifting, squating heavy and deep is useless, you will be hurt if you are old 20minutes later i see him create an ab exercise with a rower and a bench and some push up handles.... Btw he looks live he doesn´t lift, hits on all the girls and never teaches barbell movements, so i think i got a jackpot! :D
My cringeworthy stories are a trainer who put different weights on either side of the barbell for me to squat because he wasn't paying enough attention. Also he suggested I do cardio regularly to improve my squat form.
I used to powerlift before I got injured from work and then a lot of life hit me for a long time. I let about 6 years go by without lifting, which was 100% my fault, but I still knew the fundamentals of programming, diet and form. Signed up at my gym and they did this "all new members are REQUIRED to have a free workout session with a personal trainer before being in the gym alone" bullshit. That was 3 years ago lol I've refused it for 3 years and they're still bringing it up 😂 I'm already totaling 1405 and building my way back up and they think I need to spend an hour with one of their curl-tastic douchebags. I almost want to finally give in and just troll the mother fucker the entire hour. Then again, that's an hour that could go to much more important shit.
I just re-joined a local gym after a long layoff as well, and right out of the gate the sales-guy / "personal trainer" starts badgering me to sign up for the "free workout session". *groan* He seems like a nice enough guy, and I see him in there lifting sometimes so it's not like he's a total tool. But I've been designing my own programs for decades, read Tudor Bompa, Pavel Tsatsouline, Louie Simmons, Fred Hatfield, the NCSA Strength & Conditioning Handbook, etc., and am always searching out stuff from people like Alan, Juggernaut Strength, and the like. So I'm thinking "there is pretty much no way I'm wasting an hour of my time with this guy, "learning" how to do leg curls and triceps pressdowns." :-)
I watch all 3 trainers at my gym stand there and watch their clients do reps with piss poor form. Quarter reps on squats, not touching chest on bench press(only coming down half way), and rounded back dead lifts. I want to scream at them every time I see it
Vlad C the trainers at my gym don't even teach their clients how to deadlift! One of their clients pointed at me deadlifting and asked if they could learn and the trainer said no and gave me a dirty look.
Holy shit, that dirty look thing. I had this one girl trainer who kept chucking the worst looks at me ever. Like dafuq does she want? I hate it whenever she's there
yep,I know that feel couldn't resist,I went and corrected several of them some appreciated and some noded but I know they didn't like it. The trainers made sure they instil fear of touching heavywts in the clients, whenever some of them looked interestingly at me and asked how this person is doing it why can't I.Thier answer-he isn't aesthetic you will develop a power gut like him besides he won't live long enough due to bp,spinal and knee problems,fitness is not about how much you lift its about bieng in best shape and having visible muscles.
fitness is not a sport. The client tells you their goals and you help them reach THEIR goals not yours. You have to keep them safe, but you cant over correct them or they will quit. You dont want them getting hurt doing stuff they shouldnt do unless they are supervised. Much more to it then people think. They want to do what everyone else is doing, what the fitness mags say, and what their friends are doing and whats trendy. If you show them the slow approach and they arent getting sweaty and huffy they will quit. If they are sore the next day, they will quit if its too severe. (ie if they trained right). They dont want to be sore all the time. and they arent going to eat enough protein to support recovery anyway. so then they will get sick. Its a long slow process to get someone into the truth. Sometimes you just have to give them what they want and save your pearls for the occasional client that really wants to know the details and wants to be dedicated. The former are the bread and butter clients so you can pay your bills, the latter are your disciples. Those you would train for free. Lots to think about. Its not so easy to judge trainers if you are not one. And face it most trainers dont care and dont even have this much insight.
yea bro i just moved so I switched to a new gym. I go in their and they all over me offering weightliftng classes and shit.(I was wearing a sweatshirt so they didn't see my gainz). Low key these guys suck and i wonder how they are able to be certified sometimes. Im certified myself so I just sitback and have a good laugh lol.
Lmao so truuuue. I used to workout with my friend in LA fitness 2 years ago(Wasnt serious) and 1 year later i got into 24 hour and lost some weight and gained some muscle. Beginning of 2018 i stopped going and couldnt afford the 40$ a month so i went to LA fitness in september. On my first day there was some trainer who told me if I wanted a free training session and I told him I know the exercises and politely declined. He proceeded to insist and told me that I should do cardio before a workout and eat all day even though i told him I do IF and run after a workout. He had a belly too so i knew he didnt know what he was talking about and I never showed up to the free session 💀
The reality of personal training when you start out is that you get half ass clients, flaky people and non-commitals who aren't serious and "just wanna look good, and toned, and ripped, and jacked etc.". A lot of them wanna give you money to show up once a week and get their ass kicked and not work out any other time than with you so they can check it off a list. The hat of the personal trainer changes depending on the client. And what they're doing that may appear wrong because it's cliche to think so might also just be giving someone the best possible benefit for their money. I agree with this video generally but some of the points I just felt are more situation dependent rather than typical signs of a bad trainer. But in a consistent trainer with a consistent client, I basically agree with the video that these are signs of bad training.
I help new guys at the gym every time and funnily enough i act more like a PT than our actual PT, an i am free. A guy i helped since a year just hit 315 for his DL and thanked me. Also fuck every PT recommending the Smith Machine.
I'm a PT out in the So. Cal/Redondo Beach area and I can confidently say that I have not broken any of these rules. I make it a firm point to explain to them the purpose of the exercise, how to perform them as well as positioning /breathing/posture and so on. If they want to do light stuff and break a low intense sweat session on their own -fine, feel free . But with my session, we're gonna grind! Overall these were all fine points. Excellent 'land mark' weights you mentioned! Deff gonna keep that in mind when heavy compound lifts are about to begin.
Thank you for this Mr. Thrall, its really hard being a trainer because the general public loves bull shit. I've been a trainer for a year now and I've learned you need a lot of patience. The worst is when those shitty trainers try to give you advise or a client switches to them because those BS workouts make them sweat a lot. Even for the classes I teach I always try to let them know that this is only good for burning some calories. Oh and just so you know whenever clients or my students ask for extra info your channel is always at the top of the list.
"Your personal trainer should be teaching as if you're going to teach somebody else in the future." -Alan Thrall. What an awesome quote. I will remember that forever.
Basically this channel has been my PT. I've learnt more from Alan about lifting via his videos than the PT I had at the gym, pretty much all that dude taught me was ... how to setup the machines I never use :)
@@3Runner95 Lol exactly, I never knew this was a problem in the US. For the rest of the world, you know how much the bar weighs, you see how much the plates weigh, you just do simple addition inside your head.
Dogs 4Life it shouldn't even be a problem in the U.S. since pretty much everyone in the U.S uses the imperial system you'd figure it'd be pretty easy to add 45+45
@@ficedulamortis6434 The problem is that 45 isn't a very round number to use, it's a consequence of the fact that the US secretly uses metric but pretends not to. If you're going to use pounds you'd think it would make more sense to use 50 pound plates, 50 pound barbells etc, the reason for the 45 is because it's 20Kg (the international standard) rounded up (it's closer to 44 but 45 is a marginally easier number to work with).
Exactly its not that its hard to do its just why would you. you find your max thats the only number that matters take a half plate off rep it out to muscle failure take a half plate off rinse repeat untill eventually your strong enough to move up thats allways been my method
Right on! I only wished I knew these things sooner. Starting as a client of a trainer then later a trainer myself I fell for all these traps. Once I realized the old approach was setting clients up for failure I went back to the basics and spent majority of my time researching and perfecting my own barbell technique and programming. Issues that followed was the amount of time I was spending and the negative reactions I got from potential clients who just want a "good" workout and burn lots of calories. Hope videos like this will help shaped the fitness industry for the better.
cool video! great channel! subscribed! I was training /teaching my girlfriend the other day, she's never done squats with a barbell or deadlifts, so I had her focus on her technique using just the bar which worked great for her. then she goes into work, and tells a girl she works with, who says " Ha! he had you just using a bar? they weigh nothing! my personal trainer had me doing the bar with 30kg on first time! what squats did.you do? deep! ha! no wide stance squats half way down are best for your arse! "... I think she could do with being introduced to your channel!
I was a personal trainer for a couple of years. When I trained my clients first thing I always mentioned was on how nutrition is most important,and depending on their goals. Second, I always showed proper technique and form and the reason behind every exercise. Didn't take long for them to master. Lastly, If I had a client that could only afford 10 session or up to 100, I would tell them that what I teach them, I want them to use for the rest of their lives after a certain period and hope they don't want or need me anymore.
sometimes when athletes NEED to put on weight, its easier to incorporate some junk foods/cheat meals in the diet despite the unhealthiness side of it, because of the extra calories
the diet that some coaches force on their players to gain more weight like eating Wendy's and raw cookie dough is the same reason that a lot of them don't live that long. the dietician of the Texans has a great lesson about proper athlete nutrition and why not to promote junk food for weight gain.
Alright Alan just confused me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't simply putting on two 45 lbs on each side of a barbell add up to 90 lbs? How does he get 25 lbs into 95 punds? Where is the extra 45 lbs coming into play?
Kirstie Pendergrass Well I guess in my defense, I've been only lifting for four months and I've been given advice that barbells arent all equal as in some range from 20-40 lbs. But I guess I should've just weighed it in the first place. Glad this info was given because it means I've been lifting and squatting more weight than I thought! :D
In my martial arts school we have a few rules that are similar. You need three things to happen every class, 1. learn something, 2. hit something/get hit, 3. get sweaty. We also say that training should be consistent, progressive, and goal oriented.
tagg1080 who the fuck takes martial arts these days.....a bunch of hooah chickens claiming status with a belt. step in the octagon if your s champion then maybe you should be allow to teach self defense. otherwise go learn ballet
My trainer is a power lifter and is a very great teacher who teacher me the perfect technique and has really made a difference. I love that he helps me set goals and actually reach them. I just hit my squat goal of 315 at age 15.
I find it kind of funny Americans have hard time figuring out how to put a determined amount of weight on the bar, I've never even thought it could be a problem for anyone really ...
Adding on those 1.13398092kg, 2.26796185kg and 4.5359237kg plates doesn't add any difficulty to the math, does it? (that's 2.5, 5 and 10 lbs for us Americans)
I'm loving that I subscribed and I see your descriptions almost everyday. A buddy of mine is a personal trainer who lets the people that he trains go for a max whenever they want. The worst part is he doesn't even have programming for himself. Then the owner who uses his body as a selling point does the exact same thing, except he has been an avid steroid user for years. Unknown to his clients.
Alan thanks for the awsome video, so true and I fully agree with everything you said. If I can request one thing of you sir, please never lose your brilliant sense of humor. Your videos are very educational, entertaining and inspiring, you also keep it real where needed, I solute you.
Perhaps his humor is more so misogynistic than brilliant. From a man's perspective, there is no issue because they have been socialized to disregard the subtler discrimination against women. From a woman's perspective, his portrayal of female weightlifters is alienating and stupidly wrong.
Dave G Why do you assume that disrespect and that disinterest is inherent in society? Why should we not endeavor to radically alter society such that our feelings are respected and our character is acknowledged?
lol I've had to teach myself everything... most Gyms in Bangalore suck... I've met a guy that claims to know powerlifting but doesn't even know the definition of linear programming... there are many trainers who don't know what a power clean is... A lot of trainers have bad squat cues for instance be vertical throughout the movement, look up, don't go to parallel or else you'll damage your spine... similarly for the deadlift they'll tell me on conventional to grip wider than shoulder width because Brian Shaw does it, also they told me a deadlift is called a deadlift cause it makes you dead... for front squats they tell me to keep my hips back and not to be vertical... for bench presses these guys don't even go the full range of motion and have their spotter help them push it up... they claim to be for injury prevention but don't know what prehab is or the use of a reverse hyper... they even give their clients steroids and lie to them telling them that it's safe since it's an imported roid...for barbell rows they allow people to round their backs... for deadlifts they tell breathe out on top... and they don't know what Starting Strength is and claim to know more about powerlifting, strongman and Olympic weightlifting than me....
averagejoe It's the worst. I had an argument the other day about being heavier generally makes you stronger and the acted like I had no idea what I'm talking about. They even tried to down play me by comparing me to Larry duck wheels? Larry wheels...compare just a average Joe to one of the strongest humans alive. Plus they think a singlet is a "Power suit" and it added a 100lb to your bench.
Jason Robinson lol I don't know what that is but unlike your gym I won't act like it. The guy that claims to be into powerlifting doesn't even know who Larry "Lottawheels" Williams is... which gym in Bangalore do you go to?
I agreed with everything you just said exept, "breathing on top of a deadlift" dumbest shit ive heard. you dont have the same kind of preasure on you on the top portion, your basicly resting at the top. keep core stable from bottom to top yes but you can breath on the top. i doubt anyone would get hurt from beating on top of a dl
rubenaunet I remember reading that in starting strength and stronglifts... maybe my memory might be skewed since it has been sometime... but as far as I remember even while coming down you want your core stable since you don't want to round your back... please clarify and explain to me if you feel this is wrong...
averagejoe I'm amazed that Bangalore has a good gym with a proper squat rack. Mostly places have the fucking smith machine for everything from bench press to squats.
@@andrewpaulstancer5704 KG plates in 5 kg increments is easier to count than jumping from 10 to 25lb plates and then other jumps to 35 and 45. 293 pounds in 5/10/25/35/45 increments is substantially more difficult in KG plates that are at 5/10/15/20/25 denominations.
Had this one PT who took the time to discuss with me what I looked for in my workout and what my goals were. Then he tested where I was at strengthwise and technique. Spent a couple hours with him improving my barbell exercises as those were the most important. And when we were done with the hours I had paid for, he taught me how to program and he sent me a program which he recommended I followed based on my goals and weaknesses. About 4 years ago now, Its hard to explain how much he helped me with my training.
Most gyms always market towards the uninformed which sucks. I used to be a PT at LA fitness and the thing I hated the most was you only had a 25 minute session with a client. This makes it hard to teach a compound lift to a client, especially if they arent a quick learner no matter how accurate your instruction is. They have to pay more to get a second session after. This approach is designed exactly on what Alan said with the "hard" workouts designed to make you tired as opposed to learning and progressing in a training cycle.
I acted sorta like a personal trainer for my buddy. kinda uneducated on bodybuilding (got him to switch from crossfit thank god). he knew almost nothing and his deadlift form was so shit, which was scary because in crossfit they do a lot of deadlift similar movements like cleans, snatches, etc. it was easy to immediately pick out what he was doing wrong and if the crossfit "trainer" didn't know what was wrong or just didn't care to correct it, it is so fucked up. now, my buddy is making crazy gains in strength (started at about 115 max bench and can now bench 135 for reps) and size, even though strength is his overall goal, im kinda making him gain muscle mass. he knows that lower volume means less size more strength, but I have him do high volume (we switch between heavy weight low reps and light weight higher reps every week). sorry not sorry
That's actually a good point. A lot of times I feel like I've always just placed the weight on for them. I forgot how confusing it can be for someone new. Good suggestion! I will advise my clients on barbell math!
These are brilliant advices for us clients and trainers also, we need to learn from everything and have an open mindset to keep growing. Thanks for sharing this information.
Great video. Glad that the first and only client I have ever coached recieved a proper deal. Thanks for this, I feel very insecure about my skills as a PT and this helped me!
this guy gave me really good advice a lot of years ago, now that i want to start all over again because of things getting out of control diet wise Alan gives clear easy to understand good advice :)
I should have watched this video before I paid for personal training a while back at LifeTime Fitness... because everything you say in this video is completely spot-on..
Love this video along with every other video of yours. As a novice powerlifter wanting to become a personal trainer and eventually a powerlifter couch, this was very useful!! Thanks Alan! Mad respect. ✌️
My friend just started training me, he felt like all the research and learning he had done was going to waste on just himself so he offered to coach me. For free! What I am commenting about is the fact that your video let me know that not only do I have a great coach, he is also way way cheaper than anyone else's
5:45 "That was... something else..." Hahahaha! Alan it's my first coment ever on YT. I do love your chanel. I started (i.e. fell in love with) lifting in August and you're my favourite youtuber!
4:10 Ironically, the greatest conditioning workout ever invented revolves around the use of a deck of cards. It's called the Gotch Bible and combat athletes have been using it for decades.
that's not entirely true though. Bodybuilding absolutely has it's place. Machines though, ehhh. Not so much. Thing is, you don't HAVE to squat properly and only do 3-5 rep sets. A lot of time, I think people confuse full squatting with powerlifting. It doesn't HAVE to be. Full squatting is good for virtually anyone given proper mobility and joint health.
It's a perception thing in the gen pop of gyms, though. You aren't wrong. My point is that it's good for everyone to do some A2G squatting. A good 90% of my warmup sets are A2G squats since I don't use a belt for them. The belt frankly inhibits me from super deep squatting because I'm not a giant :) Once the belt goes on, it prevents me from going too far below parallel. At 43, it's probably a good thing so I don't get too crazy.
Great video, just talked to one of my buddies who has worked with a personal trainer. Told me that the trainer would say you can do the weight as long as I can do it. Also gave him high rep workouts claiming it would build strength..
6:48 I literally laughed out loud! Love your videos, man! Props from Mendocino... wish we had a gym/good trainers here on the coast. I've had to self teach and home gym it.
Hey look. Someone that knows what he's talking about. Probably makes half of what Chris Jones makes for mostly just sucking the camera into his nostrils and filming his fucking dinner.
I see. The hot girl in the thumbnail trick.
got an ig?
Yeah... Works every time.
wackadoforever gets me every time
2:14 LOL. You absolutely killed this video dude.
couldnt stop laughing, im ashamed to say I know a lot of girls that are like that
Shit, I had to pause the video right there and look for the comments...just too good :D
Dimas in the back makes it look even funnier.
anybody know what the name of his intro song is?
5. They have no calves
Alan is prettier than my girlfriend
Cmon dude you're setting an unrealistic standard for all girlfriends now.
I know right? Mine's full of calluses :(
gay?
He's hairier than my dog
he is prettier than my wife dude... fuck :'(
My personal trainer is awesome, He does a great job teaching correct form for all the major lifts, along with the importance of warming up. He has helped me improve my strength a lot over the years. He also makes videos, so I can go back and review things whenever I want and best of all he charges me nothing. He also has an awesome beard. His name is Alan Thrall and has taught me almost everything I know about lifting.
Reason number 1: He's not Alan
Reason number 2: He's not Alan
Reason number 3: He's not Alan
Reason number 4: He's not Alan
Rip gains... ;_;
Yeah, I couldn't learn how to bench properly because of the shitty trainers in the gym. I learnt proper benching after watching Alan's video.
First Last I learned everything about a squat from Alan lol. No more lower back pain, hip pain, and knee pain because thanks to Alan!
amazing production- hilarious- and very very true with good insight. amazing video homie.
Alright everyone,
If you have any cringeworthy personal training stories please share..
Also, let's hear some of the outrageous prices you guys have paid for PT. I've heard some people who pay $600 per month!
The guy that manages the gym I go to, which is actually an overall pretty nice place to go for 15 bucks a month, does claim he invented "A revolutionary, high speed workout using both weights and body weight" also known to most people as, crossfit.
Well, it's nothing cringeworthy, but in my gym there is a trainer that is supposed to "supervise" the people (you know, in case they do something wrong to prevent injuries or equipment damage). But man does he suck, he never corrects anyone even if they do a cat back while deadlifting, and most of the time he is not even there because he is too buisy talking with a lady in the lobby. It fucking triggers me.
One time i was deadlifting on my own and i heard the guy talking to a client how bad lifting heavy weight is (it was just a high 300lbs) He said, in 10 years i would wish, that i never did that! All this deadlifting, squating heavy and deep is useless, you will be hurt if you are old
20minutes later i see him create an ab exercise with a rower and a bench and some push up handles....
Btw he looks live he doesn´t lift, hits on all the girls and never teaches barbell movements, so i think i got a jackpot! :D
My cringeworthy stories are a trainer who put different weights on either side of the barbell for me to squat because he wasn't paying enough attention. Also he suggested I do cardio regularly to improve my squat form.
Also I think Bosu balls should be made illegal.
plate math is so much easier in kg
Exactly what i was thinking :)
G Man well ot just math but kgs are only real numbers
GMan Steel it sure is ;) but I still have issues with my math. but that's for different reasons XD
GMan Steel bro I'm professional at multiplying by 45 now
BrandonHardy100 countries that use the imperial system USA, Liberia, and Myanmar...
I used to powerlift before I got injured from work and then a lot of life hit me for a long time. I let about 6 years go by without lifting, which was 100% my fault, but I still knew the fundamentals of programming, diet and form. Signed up at my gym and they did this "all new members are REQUIRED to have a free workout session with a personal trainer before being in the gym alone" bullshit. That was 3 years ago lol I've refused it for 3 years and they're still bringing it up 😂 I'm already totaling 1405 and building my way back up and they think I need to spend an hour with one of their curl-tastic douchebags. I almost want to finally give in and just troll the mother fucker the entire hour. Then again, that's an hour that could go to much more important shit.
I just re-joined a local gym after a long layoff as well, and right out of the gate the sales-guy / "personal trainer" starts badgering me to sign up for the "free workout session". *groan* He seems like a nice enough guy, and I see him in there lifting sometimes so it's not like he's a total tool. But I've been designing my own programs for decades, read Tudor Bompa, Pavel Tsatsouline, Louie Simmons, Fred Hatfield, the NCSA Strength & Conditioning Handbook, etc., and am always searching out stuff from people like Alan, Juggernaut Strength, and the like. So I'm thinking "there is pretty much no way I'm wasting an hour of my time with this guy, "learning" how to do leg curls and triceps pressdowns." :-)
No troll him so no one pesters you in future two birds one stone
I watch all 3 trainers at my gym stand there and watch their clients do reps with piss poor form. Quarter reps on squats, not touching chest on bench press(only coming down half way), and rounded back dead lifts. I want to scream at them every time I see it
Vlad C the trainers at my gym don't even teach their clients how to deadlift! One of their clients pointed at me deadlifting and asked if they could learn and the trainer said no and gave me a dirty look.
Holy shit, that dirty look thing. I had this one girl trainer who kept chucking the worst looks at me ever. Like dafuq does she want? I hate it whenever she's there
yep,I know that feel couldn't resist,I went and corrected several of them some appreciated and some noded but I know they didn't like it. The trainers made sure they instil fear of touching heavywts in the clients, whenever some of them looked interestingly at me and asked how this person is doing it why can't I.Thier answer-he isn't aesthetic you will develop a power gut like him besides he won't live long enough due to bp,spinal and knee problems,fitness is not about how much you lift its about bieng in best shape and having visible muscles.
jizzypuff LOL! How dare you perform a non-machine exercise in a commercial gym?!
fitness is not a sport. The client tells you their goals and you help them reach THEIR goals not yours. You have to keep them safe, but you cant over correct them or they will quit. You dont want them getting hurt doing stuff they shouldnt do unless they are supervised. Much more to it then people think. They want to do what everyone else is doing, what the fitness mags say, and what their friends are doing and whats trendy. If you show them the slow approach and they arent getting sweaty and huffy they will quit. If they are sore the next day, they will quit if its too severe. (ie if they trained right). They dont want to be sore all the time. and they arent going to eat enough protein to support recovery anyway. so then they will get sick. Its a long slow process to get someone into the truth. Sometimes you just have to give them what they want and save your pearls for the occasional client that really wants to know the details and wants to be dedicated. The former are the bread and butter clients so you can pay your bills, the latter are your disciples. Those you would train for free. Lots to think about. Its not so easy to judge trainers if you are not one. And face it most trainers dont care and dont even have this much insight.
You basically just described every la fitness trainer lol
Aj Gonzalez yep. a buddy of mine just joined LA and yeah it's pretty bad. saw the workout they made and it's just a generic workout.
I spent $5000 on an LA Fitness instructor and learned jack shit. Every good technique I know came from RUclips LOL
Aj Gonzalez true! And people pay for them!!
yea bro i just moved so I switched to a new gym. I go in their and they all over me offering weightliftng classes and shit.(I was wearing a sweatshirt so they didn't see my gainz). Low key these guys suck and i wonder how they are able to be certified sometimes. Im certified myself so I just sitback and have a good laugh lol.
Lmao so truuuue. I used to workout with my friend in LA fitness 2 years ago(Wasnt serious) and 1 year later i got into 24 hour and lost some weight and gained some muscle. Beginning of 2018 i stopped going and couldnt afford the 40$ a month so i went to LA fitness in september. On my first day there was some trainer who told me if I wanted a free training session and I told him I know the exercises and politely declined. He proceeded to insist and told me that I should do cardio before a workout and eat all day even though i told him I do IF and run after a workout. He had a belly too so i knew he didnt know what he was talking about and I never showed up to the free session 💀
The reality of personal training when you start out is that you get half ass clients, flaky people and non-commitals who aren't serious and "just wanna look good, and toned, and ripped, and jacked etc.". A lot of them wanna give you money to show up once a week and get their ass kicked and not work out any other time than with you so they can check it off a list.
The hat of the personal trainer changes depending on the client. And what they're doing that may appear wrong because it's cliche to think so might also just be giving someone the best possible benefit for their money.
I agree with this video generally but some of the points I just felt are more situation dependent rather than typical signs of a bad trainer. But in a consistent trainer with a consistent client, I basically agree with the video that these are signs of bad training.
couldnt agree more
I help new guys at the gym every time and funnily enough i act more like a PT than our actual PT, an i am free.
A guy i helped since a year just hit 315 for his DL and thanked me.
Also fuck every PT recommending the Smith Machine.
Spookwagen That's really nice from you!
I'm a PT out in the So. Cal/Redondo Beach area and I can confidently say that I have not broken any of these rules.
I make it a firm point to explain to them the purpose of the exercise, how to perform them as well as positioning /breathing/posture and so on.
If they want to do light stuff and break a low intense sweat session on their own -fine, feel free . But with my session, we're gonna grind!
Overall these were all fine points.
Excellent 'land mark' weights you mentioned! Deff gonna keep that in mind when heavy compound lifts are about to begin.
That bearded Harley Quinn hair character though xD
That was so epic!
Almost attractive. No homo of course.
almost?
Thank you for this Mr. Thrall, its really hard being a trainer because the general public loves bull shit. I've been a trainer for a year now and I've learned you need a lot of patience. The worst is when those shitty trainers try to give you advise or a client switches to them because those BS workouts make them sweat a lot. Even for the classes I teach I always try to let them know that this is only good for burning some calories. Oh and just so you know whenever clients or my students ask for extra info your channel is always at the top of the list.
"Your personal trainer should be teaching as if you're going to teach somebody else in the future." -Alan Thrall. What an awesome quote. I will remember that forever.
Untamed twins?
10/10 would bang. i definitely would love to see more of them ^^
fucking yes
The most fabulous Alli and Ella Thrall. They are stunning and brave.
Basically this channel has been my PT. I've learnt more from Alan about lifting via his videos than the PT I had at the gym, pretty much all that dude taught me was ... how to setup the machines I never use :)
Yo Allan, you should start doing skits man. Do gym skits with the two bearded chicks, that would be hilarious.
As a PT in training, id love to hear more of your tips Alan
7:43 That's why i Love the metric System.
Yeah, I got lost somewhere in the 245 to 275 and shit.
its what you're used to thats why. I'm used to imperial and i find it extremely simple to use and would never use metric.
If you can't do barbell math you need to question your life.
For someone who is using a metric system, imperial is really confusing.. Id bring a calculator lol
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Lol exactly, I never knew this was a problem in the US. For the rest of the world, you know how much the bar weighs, you see how much the plates weigh, you just do simple addition inside your head.
Dogs 4Life it shouldn't even be a problem in the U.S. since pretty much everyone in the U.S uses the imperial system you'd figure it'd be pretty easy to add 45+45
@@ficedulamortis6434 The problem is that 45 isn't a very round number to use, it's a consequence of the fact that the US secretly uses metric but pretends not to. If you're going to use pounds you'd think it would make more sense to use 50 pound plates, 50 pound barbells etc, the reason for the 45 is because it's 20Kg (the international standard) rounded up (it's closer to 44 but 45 is a marginally easier number to work with).
Exactly its not that its hard to do its just why would you. you find your max thats the only number that matters take a half plate off rep it out to muscle failure take a half plate off rinse repeat untill eventually your strong enough to move up thats allways been my method
Right on! I only wished I knew these things sooner. Starting as a client of a trainer then later a trainer myself I fell for all these traps. Once I realized the old approach was setting clients up for failure I went back to the basics and spent majority of my time researching and perfecting my own barbell technique and programming. Issues that followed was the amount of time I was spending and the negative reactions I got from potential clients who just want a "good" workout and burn lots of calories. Hope videos like this will help shaped the fitness industry for the better.
6:46. perfect use of an atlas stone.
Killing the fitness game! With humor included!
cool video! great channel! subscribed! I was training /teaching my girlfriend the other day, she's never done squats with a barbell or deadlifts, so I had her focus on her technique using just the bar which worked great for her. then she goes into work, and tells a girl she works with, who says " Ha! he had you just using a bar? they weigh nothing! my personal trainer had me doing the bar with 30kg on first time! what squats did.you do? deep! ha! no wide stance squats half way down are best for your arse! "... I think she could do with being introduced to your channel!
I was a personal trainer for a couple of years. When I trained my clients first thing I always mentioned was on how nutrition is most important,and depending on their goals. Second, I always showed proper technique and form and the reason behind every exercise. Didn't take long for them to master. Lastly, If I had a client that could only afford 10 session or up to 100, I would tell them that what I teach them, I want them to use for the rest of their lives after a certain period and hope they don't want or need me anymore.
fun fact the personal trainer at l.a. fitness told me to start eating more fast food and junk food because my bodyfat % was too low..
sometimes when athletes NEED to put on weight, its easier to incorporate some junk foods/cheat meals in the diet despite the unhealthiness side of it, because of the extra calories
la is such a joke. I know a few trainers there who have no cert or proper education at all.
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fuck that i just decided to eat more meals their is no "NEED" for junk
cheat meals also help psychologically; you eat something you like once in a while and that helps you stick to your diet longer
the diet that some coaches force on their players to gain more weight like eating Wendy's and raw cookie dough is the same reason that a lot of them don't live that long. the dietician of the Texans has a great lesson about proper athlete nutrition and why not to promote junk food for weight gain.
Honestly...what is not to like about this video. Solid information with a comedic delivery. Well done Sir Thrall .....well done!
do people actually got confused with "barbell math"??? it's like the easiest thing you have to do.. a lot easier than lifting the weight
Liongky Nugraha Actually I've heard numerous people argue how much a barbell weighs
its easier in kg
Alright Alan just confused me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't simply putting on two 45 lbs on each side of a barbell add up to 90 lbs? How does he get 25 lbs into 95 punds? Where is the extra 45 lbs coming into play?
Seriously? Do you think the Oly bar weighs nothing?
Kirstie Pendergrass Well I guess in my defense, I've been only lifting for four months and I've been given advice that barbells arent all equal as in some range from 20-40 lbs. But I guess I should've just weighed it in the first place. Glad this info was given because it means I've been lifting and squatting more weight than I thought! :D
I've been a personal trainer for over 20 years, and this is my biggest pet peeve with most trainers. You are absolutely correct! Love your video
In my martial arts school we have a few rules that are similar. You need three things to happen every class, 1. learn something, 2. hit something/get hit, 3. get sweaty. We also say that training should be consistent, progressive, and goal oriented.
Every sport should be done like that. You are lucky. In Turkey most of martial arts schools and gyms are rum by charlatans
tagg1080 who the fuck takes martial arts these days.....a bunch of hooah chickens claiming status with a belt. step in the octagon if your s champion then maybe you should be allow to teach self defense. otherwise go learn ballet
Tran Le wtf are you talking about? Wow humanity is devolving so fast
excellent advice. as a PT in training I'm glad my gym actually is teaching us what your video is teaching as well
this video is BOMB. Love it every second Alan :)
My trainer is a power lifter and is a very great teacher who teacher me the perfect technique and has really made a difference. I love that he helps me set goals and actually reach them. I just hit my squat goal of 315 at age 15.
You are the best, Alan. Learned so much from you.
Man, I almost died at 2:14. You really don't expect a dude this big to have such an awesome sense of humor. Thumbs up + subscribed!
Interesting about the barbell maths. Metric system so much better.
We speak American here brother! ;)
I find it kind of funny Americans have hard time figuring out how to put a determined amount of weight on the bar, I've never even thought it could be a problem for anyone really ...
Adding on those 1.13398092kg, 2.26796185kg and 4.5359237kg plates doesn't add any difficulty to the math, does it? (that's 2.5, 5 and 10 lbs for us Americans)
we use 1.25kg, 2.5kg etc
Outdoor Thor Never seen them, in every gym i've been they had 1,2,5,10,20 and sometimes 25 kg.
I'm loving that I subscribed and I see your descriptions almost everyday. A buddy of mine is a personal trainer who lets the people that he trains go for a max whenever they want. The worst part is he doesn't even have programming for himself. Then the owner who uses his body as a selling point does the exact same thing, except he has been an avid steroid user for years. Unknown to his clients.
Alan thanks for the awsome video, so true and I fully agree with everything you said. If I can request one thing of you sir, please never lose your brilliant sense of humor. Your videos are very educational, entertaining and inspiring, you also keep it real where needed, I solute you.
It is bizarre to me that "brilliant" and "misogynistic" have become synonymous these last several years.
Perhaps his humor is more so misogynistic than brilliant. From a man's perspective, there is no issue because they have been socialized to disregard the subtler discrimination against women. From a woman's perspective, his portrayal of female weightlifters is alienating and stupidly wrong.
It's quite difficult to do so when the society to which you belong continues to tell you that you have no value.
Dave G
Why do you assume that disrespect and that disinterest is inherent in society? Why should we not endeavor to radically alter society such that our feelings are respected and our character is acknowledged?
Misogynistic? why?
I bet I could go back as far as 2014 and still find quality videos from you. Bravo.
lol I've had to teach myself everything... most Gyms in Bangalore suck... I've met a guy that claims to know powerlifting but doesn't even know the definition of linear programming... there are many trainers who don't know what a power clean is... A lot of trainers have bad squat cues for instance be vertical throughout the movement, look up, don't go to parallel or else you'll damage your spine... similarly for the deadlift they'll tell me on conventional to grip wider than shoulder width because Brian Shaw does it, also they told me a deadlift is called a deadlift cause it makes you dead... for front squats they tell me to keep my hips back and not to be vertical... for bench presses these guys don't even go the full range of motion and have their spotter help them push it up... they claim to be for injury prevention but don't know what prehab is or the use of a reverse hyper... they even give their clients steroids and lie to them telling them that it's safe since it's an imported roid...for barbell rows they allow people to round their backs... for deadlifts they tell breathe out on top... and they don't know what Starting Strength is and claim to know more about powerlifting, strongman and Olympic weightlifting than me....
averagejoe It's the worst. I had an argument the other day about being heavier generally makes you stronger and the acted like I had no idea what I'm talking about. They even tried to down play me by comparing me to Larry duck wheels? Larry wheels...compare just a average Joe to one of the strongest humans alive. Plus they think a singlet is a "Power suit" and it added a 100lb to your bench.
Jason Robinson lol I don't know what that is but unlike your gym I won't act like it. The guy that claims to be into powerlifting doesn't even know who Larry "Lottawheels" Williams is... which gym in Bangalore do you go to?
I agreed with everything you just said exept, "breathing on top of a deadlift" dumbest shit ive heard. you dont have the same kind of preasure on you on the top portion, your basicly resting at the top. keep core stable from bottom to top yes but you can breath on the top. i doubt anyone would get hurt from beating on top of a dl
rubenaunet I remember reading that in starting strength and stronglifts... maybe my memory might be skewed since it has been sometime... but as far as I remember even while coming down you want your core stable since you don't want to round your back... please clarify and explain to me if you feel this is wrong...
averagejoe I'm amazed that Bangalore has a good gym with a proper squat rack. Mostly places have the fucking smith machine for everything from bench press to squats.
"I DONT KNOW WHAT IM DOING!!" ... Hahaha, great video man. Definitely been there.
Damn, barbell math is way easier with kilograms.
No its not its the same 10 is still 10
@@andrewpaulstancer5704 KG plates in 5 kg increments is easier to count than jumping from 10 to 25lb plates and then other jumps to 35 and 45. 293 pounds in 5/10/25/35/45 increments is substantially more difficult in KG plates that are at 5/10/15/20/25 denominations.
Had this one PT who took the time to discuss with me what I looked for in my workout and what my goals were. Then he tested where I was at strengthwise and technique. Spent a couple hours with him improving my barbell exercises as those were the most important. And when we were done with the hours I had paid for, he taught me how to program and he sent me a program which he recommended I followed based on my goals and weaknesses.
About 4 years ago now, Its hard to explain how much he helped me with my training.
Very helpful video for trainers too!
Starting Strength + Basic Math stuff. You teach everything!
2:18
"it was literally supposed to be a 60 minute training session."
"but I swear it lasted for like an hour"
If I ever hire a trainer, I'm going to show him/her this video first and see what their response is. Thanks Alan!
"It was supposed to be a 60 minute training session but it lasted like an hour"
Alan was ahead of "every 60 minutes in Africa, an hour passes"
Most gyms always market towards the uninformed which sucks. I used to be a PT at LA fitness and the thing I hated the most was you only had a 25 minute session with a client. This makes it hard to teach a compound lift to a client, especially if they arent a quick learner no matter how accurate your instruction is. They have to pay more to get a second session after. This approach is designed exactly on what Alan said with the "hard" workouts designed to make you tired as opposed to learning and progressing in a training cycle.
I acted sorta like a personal trainer for my buddy. kinda uneducated on bodybuilding (got him to switch from crossfit thank god). he knew almost nothing and his deadlift form was so shit, which was scary because in crossfit they do a lot of deadlift similar movements like cleans, snatches, etc. it was easy to immediately pick out what he was doing wrong and if the crossfit "trainer" didn't know what was wrong or just didn't care to correct it, it is so fucked up. now, my buddy is making crazy gains in strength (started at about 115 max bench and can now bench 135 for reps) and size, even though strength is his overall goal, im kinda making him gain muscle mass. he knows that lower volume means less size more strength, but I have him do high volume (we switch between heavy weight low reps and light weight higher reps every week). sorry not sorry
That's actually a good point. A lot of times I feel like I've always just placed the weight on for them. I forgot how confusing it can be for someone new. Good suggestion! I will advise my clients on barbell math!
Sounds like he was describing cross fit.
exact same thought
He kinda is lol
As usual, great video. The plate landmarks are way helpful to the new individuals in the weight room.
lmao at it was supposed to be 60 mins but it took an hour
Your tone of voice and facial expression when you said 'I have no idea what I'm doing' were so perfect. 😆
My personal trainer never showed me how to Tren Untamed. Can you hlp?
Anyone with At The Gates as their intro rules in my book. New favorite fitness channel. 🤘🏻
I told one of my gym trainers my elbow hurted when doing wide grip pulldowns. He said "so... what is your question exactly?"
Your question should be "why do I even pay you?"
xShr00msx Yep, that's what I thought.
superb video.. thanks to you my knowledge on lifting is skyrocketing...
“Air squats”
Real nice of your double to help with this!
Holy shit his facial expressions while that trainer is talking is hilarious 😆😆😆
These are brilliant advices for us clients and trainers also, we need to learn from everything and have an open mindset to keep growing. Thanks for sharing this information.
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Don't mind me I'm just showing my stylist the exact color blonde I want my hair to be this summer. Your hair is amazing😍 💇💆💁
You look good in pigtails 😂 awesome video!
Great video. Glad that the first and only client I have ever coached recieved a proper deal. Thanks for this, I feel very insecure about my skills as a PT and this helped me!
Everything becomes easier when using kilos... :-D
I dont get it I use the metric system aswell,but if I was used to the imperialsystem for my whole life how could calculating weigths be difficult
@@martinpatella3986 it's not. 2 plates+bar is 135. 4+bar is 225. 6+bar=315. 8+bar=405 10+bar=495.
this guy gave me really good advice a lot of years ago, now that i want to start all over again because of things getting out of control diet wise Alan gives clear easy to understand good advice :)
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Thanks! I’m wanting to become a trainer once I’m 18 for powerlifting, I’ve been watching your videos for awhile you’re very educated!
Tfw I train someone for free and do all the good things described in this vid
Alan should probably name his channel to "The Legendary Eye opener". Learning a lot from this channel. Thanks man !!
Barbell math? Im glad we use kilos in the UK. Barbell is 20kg and we have 1.25, 2.5, 5, 10, 15, 20 and 25kg plates. Simple.
so? in the US, barbel is 45 lb, and plates go: 45, 35, 25, 10, 5, 2.5 lb.
Cool
I should have watched this video before I paid for personal training a while back at LifeTime Fitness... because everything you say in this video is completely spot-on..
That thumbnail though...... thought I was seeing untamed porn in my subscription feed........damnnnn it.......
Love this video along with every other video of yours. As a novice powerlifter wanting to become a personal trainer and eventually a powerlifter couch, this was very useful!! Thanks Alan! Mad respect. ✌️
02:20 totally lost it
Never seen anyone sum up a video in such an efficient and articulate and poetic way 8:47
Who was that absolute knob at 0:26?? You're gonna build 20 pounds of muscle in half a year doing air squats and wall balls, huh?
Trent Blaser-Welch lol not without his special vitamin s program to go along with it. This Hollywood PT cracks me up.
the worst part is that he seemed so confident and knowledgable in himself, which makes naive people buy in to it sigh
I'm including this in a homework playlist I'm sending to my clients for the weekend. Bold move I'd say. Let's hope it pays off
This is gonna get a lot of hate, but I kinda think he'd look even hotter with a shorter beard. It's distracting this way lol
6:36 I've been there...Near the end of a sess my mind is fuzzy and I feel like I'm doing collegiate physics calculations.
6:46 :')
Something about a simple man and liking a video and stuff. Thanks Alan! Watching while shaving 😭
i think that alan likes so much dress like a girl... just im saying :rolleyes:
My friend just started training me, he felt like all the research and learning he had done was going to waste on just himself so he offered to coach me. For free! What I am commenting about is the fact that your video let me know that not only do I have a great coach, he is also way way cheaper than anyone else's
the part where he said I have no idea what I'm doing just made me crack up because that is something that I would do
5:45 "That was... something else..." Hahahaha! Alan it's my first coment ever on YT. I do love your chanel. I started (i.e. fell in love with) lifting in August and you're my favourite youtuber!
Hopefully your gains have been bountiful.
We are all gonna make it, brah.
4:10 Ironically, the greatest conditioning workout ever invented revolves around the use of a deck of cards. It's called the Gotch Bible and combat athletes have been using it for decades.
6:44 perfect delivery XD up there with Brick's loud noises ha ha!
What's a good way to introduce new clients to barbell movements who live and breathe bodybuilding dogma?
show them photos of Arnold squatting, deadlifting, and benching.
Ask them how the bodybuilding dogma has been working out for them so far. If they're your client then probably not good.
that's not entirely true though. Bodybuilding absolutely has it's place. Machines though, ehhh. Not so much.
Thing is, you don't HAVE to squat properly and only do 3-5 rep sets.
A lot of time, I think people confuse full squatting with powerlifting. It doesn't HAVE to be. Full squatting is good for virtually anyone given proper mobility and joint health.
Tim full ROM squatting isn't a power lifting thing. Most power lifters don't do ass to grass, they just do parallel.
It's a perception thing in the gen pop of gyms, though. You aren't wrong. My point is that it's good for everyone to do some A2G squatting. A good 90% of my warmup sets are A2G squats since I don't use a belt for them. The belt frankly inhibits me from super deep squatting because I'm not a giant :) Once the belt goes on, it prevents me from going too far below parallel. At 43, it's probably a good thing so I don't get too crazy.
Great video, just talked to one of my buddies who has worked with a personal trainer. Told me that the trainer would say you can do the weight as long as I can do it. Also gave him high rep workouts claiming it would build strength..
Oh and...
7. They do crossfit. Actually this is not only a sign of a bad trainer, its a sign of a bad human being.
6:48 I literally laughed out loud! Love your videos, man! Props from Mendocino... wish we had a gym/good trainers here on the coast. I've had to self teach and home gym it.
Hey look. Someone that knows what he's talking about. Probably makes half of what Chris Jones makes for mostly just sucking the camera into his nostrils and filming his fucking dinner.
tim72184 LOOOL
Other than his eating videos, his information is very valid
Alan is going Hollywood with the side by side effect. Great video!