It’s the truth, literally no one cares what you are lifting at the gym. Unless you are competing or something it doesn’t matter. I go to the gym to stay, strong, and healthy. I literally posted a form check video on my FB that was me deadlifting 255 which is nothing to really brag about, and I had people who don’t lift at all comment stuff like OMG HOLY CRAP UR STRONG... lol my lifting friends were like umm ok....
@@Rivfader02 I did a form check vid on FB with 350 lobsters, and the guys mostly bitched about over-undergrip not being good for me and that I shouldn't wear shoes while deadlifting... They where nice about it tho, and some commented on my form too, but the shoeless over-over hookgrip or straps was better was what I got out of it with. And I wear shoes to get the correct ancle and knee angle, and did up to 330lbs with normal double overhand grip. That was in a "bearded men-group" tho those guys are less easily impressed than your average facebook surfin girl...
Renax the Man exactly my point. Those guys are experienced lifters, your average person that does not lift is gonna be impressed by just about whatever you do.
Personally lifting for me is just accessory work for partner acrobatics, my goal is to be able to press 10 sets of an average flyers weight. I also like the x times bodyweight rule that jujimufu uses on his website.
My mom’s in her late 70s her strength standard is: start laying on the floor, stand without using your hands. She can still do it, which to me, is impressive.
@@PHH1103 Lol, no she’s not kicking herself off the ground like a martial artist. She just gets her legs under her and works her way up. Now , granted, it’s not what anyone would consider graceful that’s for sure 😂
I am a doctor and I can deadlift 405 pounds. I utilized my metabolic biochemistry and molecular biology knowledge to optimize my nutrition and my anatomy knowledge to train their function in the gym.
Doctors and nurses need some strength standards, nurses especially. Quite a few nurses have gotten hurt trying to move super morbidly obese patients that fall on them. It happened to a girl i know. The nursing profession is really hurting for more males in it because there are so many large people who need moving and not enough strong people to do so
@@Zetsuke4 if that's true you should start posting working out and dieting videos. In the world of misinformation it cant hurt to have professionals weight in
at my school's rec i maxed out deadlift and was struggling to take the weight off and a dude, without saying anything, came by and rolled the bar onto a 2.5 and I'm so conflicted cause it was a great tip but the dude was so weird about it
I've been a barista most of my life and there is usually a "strength standard" when you apply for jobs, though it's just that you need to be able to lift either 30 or 50lbs. When I started lifting it was really rewarding to be able to deadlift 50lb sacks of sugar to the counter like they were nothing. I guess being on your feet for 7+ hours is a strength standard too.
There is an 80 lb box of comic books that doesn't follow any of the new standards and happens to exist in the warehouse. Getting it from chest height out of the shelf onto the cart seems like an achievement. But how much can I deadlift? No clue. Squat? Beats me. Carefully taking a stack of book packets with stretched out arms without dropping them- absolutely. And sugar has that awkward property of moving around in the bag.
Hey Alan, thanks for another fun video. Just thought I’d share a little story with you. I’m 50, IT project manager, big frame and have been in ok shape a couple of times in my life. I took a job two years ago that had me desk bound and working 70 hours a week. I put on weight and got weaker, stopped cycling, stopped working out all together and gained about 20 lbs. I left that job in February and in July started to start lifting. I got a used bench and weight set and started lifting in my basement. My lower back was almost seized and I had a hernia that would cause me some pretty serious discomfort a couple of times a week. When I started I could barely squat an empty bar more than 5x5. I started using the 5x5 app and started doing squats, bench presses, over head lifts, bar bell rows and dead lifts. I focused on form and finishing 5x5s safely. Today, I have no hernia pain, my lower back is almost completely pain free, my knee and joint pain that I experienced every morning has gone away. I’m only benching 135, DL 165, and OHL 97lbs. I don’t care. This is the strongest I’ve been in almost 10 years and I’ll soon be stronger than I have ever been. I’ve joined a real gym with racks and safety and I’m back to doing yoga a couple times a week. I think about your instructional vids on squats, and deadlifts every time I lift, at 6:00 AM in the morning. Thanks for the inspiration dude! 🤙🤘
I've watched about 4,000 of your videos since I discovered them back in October, and it has been a game changer. In the past, I could never squat or deadlift without neck and back pain. Now that I have made some adjustments and used the set ups you teach, I have felt great after each workout. Now, I'm looking forward to squats and deadlifts each week and, I I am already squatting and deadlifting more that I have in years. Thanks!!!!
Love your videos. I’ve learned a ton. One thing: If you shoot for the moon and fall short, you won’t reach the stars. The stars are further away. I clearly need to go train today because stupid shit is bothering me. Keep up the great work, Alan!
@@salmanko5610 I'm confused. He says "Train untamed" not "Train on time" at the end of his video. Train Untamed is the name of his gym. Is this what you guys are referring too? Or is this some kind of in joke and I am missing something? 😂
Thank you Alan! For a beginner lifter who’s worrying about how much he can lift before he can actually lift it, these words really put things into perspective. I will forget about “standards” and focus on progressing with the movement.
Im 6 months into seriously lifting first time in my life at 40 years old.. I am having a blast lifting... I was a marathon runner and ironman triathlete competing in dozens of these events. 6 foot 4 and 165 lbs. You can imagine how much lean muscle mass I had and what my strength was. I started squatting with just the bar, and sheeze that was tough.. deadlifts 135 and bench, maybe 85 lbs.. in 6 months im at 155 squat, 155 bench, and 265 sumo for 1 rep max. Im thrilled and feel great.. I'm up to 188 lbs, stayed lean and have a diet dialed in.. thank you again for reminding me that the numbers don't matter but big goals are a good thing.. maybe 6 months from now im 1.5x body weight squat and bench and 2x sumo. Thank you again!
Wildland as well. There’s a dude on a forest service hotshotcrew that runs lead saw who runs a mile and a half in 7:30. Couple that with the upper body strength needed to run chainsaw for say, 16 hours straight, and you’ve got an exceptional athlete. I think a lot of those dudes on hotshot/smokejumper crews are some of the best all around athletes in America.
Being one of these types myself (20 yrs Wildland Battalion Chief, 10 years on handcrews/hotshots) I can tell you that making the change from endurance athlete to strength athlete has been challenging to say the least and I'm still struggling with the balance to a great extent. I always did the 3 mile (better point value to run sub 21 min than 1.5 miles sub 9), 22 pull ups, 75 push ups, and 100 odd sit ups (Test standards are you get 10 min recovery after run, then 3 min to get as many pull ups with strict form without dropping from the bar with 7 min recovery, 3 min to get as many push ups strict form elbows break plane with 7 min recovery, and 3 min to get as many sit ups as possible). We are considered Civil Service Technicians (if fed govt categorized us as firefighters we'd get a crapton more benefits). Up till now I've always avoided bulk because it was just more weight to haul around the mountains....in many ways I'm wishing now I had put in less time cardio and more time strength training when I was younger. Edit: Minimum standards were mile and a half in 11:00, 7 pull ups, 25 Push ups, and 40 sit ups.
When you said “all doctors should be able to deadlift 405” I almost agreed 😂 I can’t even count how many times working in a ER I had to lift a limp body off the floor. Sure not 405 but you should be able to maintain some sort of strength in a emergency situation (even though OSHA would want you to use the lifting devices)
@@Hirnknaker cpr is actually fairly easy if you are mobile, all of the power needed can be generated just with the body weight of a regular person. if you're on a hard surface then staying on your knees for the cpr is harder than the cpr.
I work at fedex and they said “be able To lift up to a 75 pound box” a lot of the heavier boxes will have a label on them saying how much they actually weigh. I see a lot of boxes that are in the 90-105 lbs range. And will occasionally get something that’s in the 130 lbs range. Whenever you have to lift a box that’s 130 pounds, has no knurling, is very big and hard to get into your center of gravity or to even find a decent way to hold. Id say it’s probably close to a 180-200 deadlift.
harkriz415 and as for an example. One night they were sending tires down the conveyor belt. These tires were massive. No way they’d be going on any kind of street vehicle. They also already had the wheels in them. So big rubber tires, with the rims, and with air in it. The label said 135. Most boxes that come down the belt aren’t too big. But some are. We even get small boxes that can go from 75-90+ lbs.
First I want to say that I LOVE your videos! Keep them coming please. Second I want to say that WD-40 on raw or broken skin is a really bad idea.Really any skin contact is not a great idea. I spent 9 years working in an environment where I had to work with and know about the dangers of chemicals. You might want to try a cooking oil spray instead to get that tacky off. Way less toxic and can leave your skin buttery smooth ;-) Not trying to preach, just want to see Alan Thrall and his beard for many years to come!
You know, I was wondering for months how strongmen get that crap off their hands/arms/clothes, and when I saw the WD-40 I felt equal senses of "aaaahhh!" and 'AAHHHH!?!"
Others have lodged similar concerns in older videos. I've noticed it more and more in strongman videos since I started watching Thrall. I hope he isn't influencing more people to put this stuff on their skin. Honestly, I think it smells great...but I wouldn't intentionally use that amount directly on my skin. I've never used the tacky stuff they use in strongman, but Gojo works pretty well for most automotive chemicals, it seems like it would work on that stuff as well. I'm sure it's got some iffy ingredients as well, but since it was designed for skin, perhaps it's a better option?
@@guitarcrazy02 Just your bog standard hand-dishwashing liquid (Fairy, Dawn, Ajax, etc) works wonders on car-work stained hands and costs almost nothing :)
@@thomasjameswilliamson5225 If being 99% bodyfat made me the strongest dude on earth, I'd take that. I don't know where you get this stupid conflation of strength and lean-ness from. It's like saying: yeah, you are strong, but what about your make up?
"These numbers are meaningful to me, but they're completely arbitrary". I love that you are able to differentiate 'meaningless' from 'arbitrary'. We are free to be the arbiters of our own meaning. So it is completely ok (and probably healthy) to set - to "arbit" - goals, and they do count. They are meaningful to you, they motivate you, they work as goals should, even if there aren't many externally validated (military, medical, legal) standards to which those goals adhere. Maybe it seems like I'm talking semantics here, but I really do appreciate the real world examples and standards that you mention in this video. Being able to say "this matters because it compromises your health/effectiveness/legality in X, Y, or Z contexts" is such a grounded, reasonable, systematic distinction to make (compare it to the language of True Believers: "if you can't do X, you SUCK and should burn in hell" etc etc). The fact that, in the very same video, you also touch on personal, pragmatic and arbitrary meaningfulness...just goes to show how mature, thought-out and integrated your perspective is. Thank you so much for this.
Yes there are strength standards in the civilian workplace, when I worked in a lumber yard I needed to put a 100lb box on a platform at chest height to show I could handle moving awkward shaped objects of decent weight
Love the leprosy banner on the wall. Human is my favorite album by them but leprosy is easily top 3 tied with symbolic for #2 for me. Death has always been an underrated band. Just started getting in the gym again. Thanks for the tips. Most people would try to throw out numbers, but I think you're right. There's no one size fits all approach.
@@cynicaesthetics4341 hahahaha here comes the triggered powerlifter who cant explain why he is bullshit except for the same typical argument "athleanX doesnt teach u powerlifting" when it aint even a powerlifting channel to begin with
On a serious note, your videos have helped me to get back into training and scrutinies my technique, to improve massively. Thanks man, always love the content
I remember being very disappointed when my job never tested if I could lift a 50lb box. I was so ready to smash that lift and earn the job. Anyway, great video. I think the best way to measure strength standards is to just measure against yourself. I weigh 275. When I started training three months ago, I could bench 275. Yesterday, I hit 300. Likewise, my squat went from 425 to 455 and my Deadlift went from 445 to 475. My body weight also went from 285 to 275. With my body weight still being so high, I’m not meeting any of the internet standards, but I feel my training is effective and I can be proud of my lifts. I’m adding weight to the bar and moving it, and I’m losing weight around my belly. That’s what I go to the gym for. We’re all going to the gym to get better, and gate-keeping with useless, arbitrary standards doesn’t help. You want a good goal to shoot for? Take your current total, add 50 pounds to it, that’s your goal. When you hit it, set another one. Take pride in your victories, because frankly, unless you’re trying to be a world champion powerlifter, comparing yourself to others doesn’t matter. And if you are in the neighborhood of world champion powerlifter, you’re not posting your lifts and BW on Internet forums asking people if those are good
@@DusmaEduardo Because he Always instigates conflict, but then plays the poor religious victim, associates with a terrorist, a mass murder dictator (kadyrov), calls a man that stole millions from the russian people and was put in jail by putin his “big brother”, build his gym with that ilegal money, mocks homless people , say women don’t belong in MMA, among many other things, but some how he always goes arround saying “bE rEsPeCtFuL aNd hUmbLe”. A disgusting dude with twisted morals.
One of the most rewarding clients ever, an old man that only came in, to stand up out of his wheel chair. A retiree he had no need to do anything anymore, his wife was legitimately worried, never saw a workout so painful for someone...."sit to stand", he would be wincing in pain but later his wife came by and said his doctor was glad he had "trained". Thanks for this Alan, Godspeed, Long Live Our Republic.
190kg / 418lb for 3 x 5 (squat) thanks for calling me an advanced lifter, albeit at the bottom end of advanced.... Means a lot coming from you Alan.... Keep strong..
Thanks for the video man. I'm a pretty skinny dude, but I've always had an incredibly muscular looking chest. I was always insecure about doing bench press with my friends, who despite being much smaller and having flat looking chests, could consistently out lift me. But hey, as long as I'm making progress against myself...that's all that really matters. That's the beauty of lifting imo.
6:17 -- THANK YOU for the valuable tip! Was thinking today it would be great to have a dedicated "inner plate" that was of a larger diameter than the outside plates. But your tip solves the problem, too!
Dude your gym is awesome. You are slowly becoming my fav fitness channel. with all that humour. ALso you have helped me by teaching me correct deadlift. Major impact. I used to have so much pain in lumbar region. Now i am "alaning" that barbell without a single uh oh.
When I got hired to work at a Target warehouse they did test our strength as part of the hiring process. Idk what its called but we got tested on these machines that no matter how hard you push pull on them it goes the same speed. We had to do leg extensions leg curls. Ab crunch and back extension. Might of been one more thing. They had do 5 reps as hard as we could and a computer crunched some numbers. Not sure exactly what they were looking for. But it was kinda cool.
Only standard i remember from Target was unloading a 2000 piece trailer stacked loose for 50' floor to ceiling in under 90min after its been baking in Florida sun all day. Good times
My Dad was a paramedic for 25+ years He told he plenty times he saw many many new guys too weak to carry patients on a stretcher, especially down stairs & obese patients. He also saw loads of the older guys get injured when someone new would drop their end of the stretcher. By staying strong his whole life he managed to retire at 65 with no injuries. I imagine similar things apply to nurses when moving a patient from bed to bed. So yeah, healthcare workers do need strength standards too.
@@xiangweizhang8336 Lebron can say whatever he wants but he's a dumbass! And he made it clear that he didn't have a damn clue what he was talking about.
There are strength standards in civilian occupations. When I used to cut and stock boxes for Ahold, who owns Stop and Shop, Giant, etc. we had to do a full physical test along with a drug test. You had to be able to lift over 60 pounds above your head ten times (mimicking stocking boxes or stacking pallets), and lift other weights from a wide variety of odd angles with cables, push a box with plates in it across the floor, etc. It wasn't too difficult, but it was comprehensive. Some people failed.
@@MrCmon113 Funny you should say that, I'm in the middle of doing weighted pullups before I walk 2.5 miles to my job at a major distribution center. I'm going back into Sales in January though.
This has been bugging me like hell. I always look at the different strength standards websites that go by height/weight, but I suppose I won't anymore. I weigh 215, been lifting 3x a week for 18 months and my Squat 1RM is like 225. I feel like I should be a LOT stronger than that, especially after 18 months of perfect attendance. Just finished my second run of Barbell Medicines' Powerlifting Program. My numbers have been increasing, but very slowly.
Keep on it man. The issue is that when you see standards and numbers that people report, they are flaunted and also you have to remember that the people that are recording their numbers are the ones who had good gains. Those that struggled are not going to go around saying "oh I could bench 225 after 10 years of lifting". Make sense? I think the best website I have found is strengthlevel.com it has a huge pool of recorded lifts. Also you could look at like the USPA's strength standards and it will tell you what a level IV, III, II, I, Master, Elite lifter is capable of. You would be surprised that to enter into Nationals you have to be a Level II lifter....at your weight (215) which would be 220 you only need 1191 to enter the Nationals meet...obviously you will not win, but think about that. The issue is the internet....just go to a gym and see how many people are benching two plates, squatting 3 plates, and deadlifting 4 plates. If I am being honest when I started lifting I could bench 95 pounds, squat 135, and deadlift 165. I weighed 155. Now it is 3 years later and I weigh 185 and I am around maybe 950 on my totals...on estimates now. So there you go......and I have had some injury, went through a depression, etc. and have 3 kids and a busy life. So the only person you can compare to is yourself. That is what lifting is. Hope that helps. Also...all the people on Vitamin S really changes stuff...
Also a lot of people will take off like 5 years of lifting and then come back, get their gains back in like 3-6 months and say "Oh I have been lifting for about 6 months and can deadlift 500". There are so many factors to strength level man.
"Shoot for the moon because if you fall short you'll land on a star", is really dumb. Stars are suns outside of our solar system, meanwhile the moon is the closest thing to earth with a gravity well. If you shoot for the moon and fall short you will fall back to earth, crash and die.
6:50 Ray Williams was my strength and conditioning coach at Itawamba Community College (ICC) football (Fulton, MS) in 2015 and 2016. We had the #2 recruiting juco class in the nation behind East Mississippi so we had some extremely strong guys. But Coach Ray pretty much made us look like twigs.
last remarks on OHP , front squat & deadlift vs bodyweight i guess are a good standard for an elite level athlete ....not to mention that the music & posters kick ass. Rock on ,man !
Alan I love your advice your tips have brought me to new heights feels like I'm leveling up. I'm starting to get to where I want to be and I feel like I owe it to your advice alot so thank you
I gotta disagree about the strength standards. I find it to be very motivating to aim for and or reach a strength standard. So I don’t believe that they are dumb. Motivation is probably the number one factor of people quitting.
Depends on what they are. If you work hard for a year and you're still below "limp dick beginner standard" off of some website, I don't think that's very motivating. I've seen standards for "the average man" that were ~2 standard deviations above the average.
"There are a few reasons why your deadlift might be the same, or even less than, your squat. You could be a short, stocky, individual with a big front porch and stubby little arms." I did not come here to be attacked like this 💀
Whats wrong being a novice lifter? Imo if that is novice standard you shoud be proud if you break that treshold. Imo 225x1, 315x1,405x1 is closer to my view on novice treshold. And that is already pretty strong compared to the average individual. This is ofc if youre somewhat average height and weight. If youre significantly heavier or lighter than average you shoud adjust it. You cant expect a 140lb dude to be as strong as a 180lb dude with equal experience.
"Have you tried just caring less?" I'm gonna keep that in mind
Same! I was getting into a counter-productive circle jerk in my head, let’s all just fucking lift
It’s the truth, literally no one cares what you are lifting at the gym. Unless you are competing or something it doesn’t matter. I go to the gym to stay, strong, and healthy. I literally posted a form check video on my FB that was me deadlifting 255 which is nothing to really brag about, and I had people who don’t lift at all comment stuff like OMG HOLY CRAP UR STRONG... lol my lifting friends were like umm ok....
@@Rivfader02 I did a form check vid on FB with 350 lobsters, and the guys mostly bitched about over-undergrip not being good for me and that I shouldn't wear shoes while deadlifting... They where nice about it tho, and some commented on my form too, but the shoeless over-over hookgrip or straps was better was what I got out of it with. And I wear shoes to get the correct ancle and knee angle, and did up to 330lbs with normal double overhand grip.
That was in a "bearded men-group" tho those guys are less easily impressed than your average facebook surfin girl...
Renax the Man exactly my point. Those guys are experienced lifters, your average person that does not lift is gonna be impressed by just about whatever you do.
Personally lifting for me is just accessory work for partner acrobatics, my goal is to be able to press 10 sets of an average flyers weight. I also like the x times bodyweight rule that jujimufu uses on his website.
Strength standards piss me off especially when they're more than what I lift lol..
What really sucks is when I see a girl lift more than I can. Then I go grumbling back to my cave.
@@JohnnyRay920 bruh I find that kind of hot, not if she looks like rich piana though
@@TheMassageTeam then you aren't working hard enough
A lot of women say that.
@@JohnnyRay920 no kidding! I just remind myself there juicing and if I was juicing I'd blow there totals out the window..
Every man should be able to bring all the groceries to the car in one go
;)
Something tells me you don't shop at Costco haha, bringing all that in one go would truly be a sight to see
Found the guy who doesn't have a Costco membership and a minivan.
I WOULD BUT THE BAGS HURT MY FINGERS DAMMIT
@@daddynolegs Just rig yourself up like Sam Porter Bridges. Strap 'em on your arms and thighs, and you're good to go.
Yea, it’s called having kids
The real answer: As strong as you want to be
See you in the gym, my lifting brothers.
Brah. That made me tear up.
Will be in my garage deadlifting tomorrow.
I just want to be in the 1,000-pound club.
but for newbie,, some numbers for their goals is good tho
lift you in the gym, my seeing brother!
My mom’s in her late 70s her strength standard is: start laying on the floor, stand without using your hands. She can still do it, which to me, is impressive.
Wow
That's a great standard, something to definitely work on
How? Is she doing the flip thing, jumping on her feet? 😂
@@PHH1103
Lol, no she’s not kicking herself off the ground like a martial artist. She just gets her legs under her and works her way up. Now , granted, it’s not what anyone would consider graceful that’s for sure 😂
I do that with one leg, Basically a pistol squat from the ground.
2:14 If my doctor can’t bench 315 he isn’t qualified to treat me
Cue: Johnny Sins
I am a doctor and I can deadlift 405 pounds. I utilized my metabolic biochemistry and molecular biology knowledge to optimize my nutrition and my anatomy knowledge to train their function in the gym.
Doctors and nurses need some strength standards, nurses especially. Quite a few nurses have gotten hurt trying to move super morbidly obese patients that fall on them. It happened to a girl i know. The nursing profession is really hurting for more males in it because there are so many large people who need moving and not enough strong people to do so
@@Zetsuke4 that's great
@@Zetsuke4 if that's true you should start posting working out and dieting videos. In the world of misinformation it cant hurt to have professionals weight in
Alright then ..... I’m going to shoot for a 2,000 bench press hopefully I’ll land at 1,950lb at least
Make sure you got a spotter.
Or 4
lets be realistic... you should be aiming more towards like 1900lb
Rick Niu trueeeee
hell yeah
@@eric4681702 😂😂
"I wouldn't ask them why their deadlift sucks"
pure class
Yeah, they suck ass, only 893 pound deadlift
Thor, the guy who broke the world record deadlift with straps, actually deadlifted less than his squat in a powerlifting meet last year.
Could be because he has recorded nerve damage. And his strength career is based on maximal weight, which is through the use of straps.
DIY Deadlift jack is without a doubt the best training tip I have ever seen.
A good one is putting a 5lb on the ground and putting it up on it, if not maybe a piece of foam
Easily man idk how tf I never thought of that smh 😂
6:18 mind blown!!!
at my school's rec i maxed out deadlift and was struggling to take the weight off and a dude, without saying anything, came by and rolled the bar onto a 2.5 and I'm so conflicted cause it was a great tip but the dude was so weird about it
Great tip, I've always used a small plate
how strong should i be?
stronger than the dude talking to my gym crush
I've been a barista most of my life and there is usually a "strength standard" when you apply for jobs, though it's just that you need to be able to lift either 30 or 50lbs. When I started lifting it was really rewarding to be able to deadlift 50lb sacks of sugar to the counter like they were nothing. I guess being on your feet for 7+ hours is a strength standard too.
There is an 80 lb box of comic books that doesn't follow any of the new standards and happens to exist in the warehouse. Getting it from chest height out of the shelf onto the cart seems like an achievement. But how much can I deadlift? No clue. Squat? Beats me. Carefully taking a stack of book packets with stretched out arms without dropping them- absolutely. And sugar has that awkward property of moving around in the bag.
I work at a feed store and i knew i got stronger when i could lift the 80lb bags of horse feed 💀 who the fuck made them 80lbs? Idk but i hate them lol
Hey Alan, thanks for another fun video. Just thought I’d share a little story with you. I’m 50, IT project manager, big frame and have been in ok shape a couple of times in my life. I took a job two years ago that had me desk bound and working 70 hours a week. I put on weight and got weaker, stopped cycling, stopped working out all together and gained about 20 lbs. I left that job in February and in July started to start lifting. I got a used bench and weight set and started lifting in my basement. My lower back was almost seized and I had a hernia that would cause me some pretty serious discomfort a couple of times a week. When I started I could barely squat an empty bar more than 5x5. I started using the 5x5 app and started doing squats, bench presses, over head lifts, bar bell rows and dead lifts. I focused on form and finishing 5x5s safely. Today, I have no hernia pain, my lower back is almost completely pain free, my knee and joint pain that I experienced every morning has gone away. I’m only benching 135, DL 165, and OHL 97lbs. I don’t care. This is the strongest I’ve been in almost 10 years and I’ll soon be stronger than I have ever been. I’ve joined a real gym with racks and safety and I’m back to doing yoga a couple times a week. I think about your instructional vids on squats, and deadlifts every time I lift, at 6:00 AM in the morning. Thanks for the inspiration dude! 🤙🤘
My answer would be "Ideally, stronger than yourself in the past".
Realistically you only need to be stronger than the female joggers passing your dark brush in the night.
@@MrCmon113 well yeah
"I'm so sick of this gym having only one set of power stairs" this quote let's me know how weak my lifting game is...
untamed strengHT!
Alan Thrall 300 lbs for me tof
day 👏
Alan Thrall Thank you Alan!
I've watched about 4,000 of your videos since I discovered them back in October, and it has been a game changer. In the past, I could never squat or deadlift without neck and back pain. Now that I have made some adjustments and used the set ups you teach, I have felt great after each workout. Now, I'm looking forward to squats and deadlifts each week and, I I am already squatting and deadlifting more that I have in years. Thanks!!!!
Did you rub WD-40 on your forearms and hands? Why would you do that? Serious question
Love your videos. I’ve learned a ton. One thing:
If you shoot for the moon and fall short, you won’t reach the stars. The stars are further away.
I clearly need to go train today because stupid shit is bothering me. Keep up the great work, Alan!
"Have you tried just caring less?"
People who never cared to lift in the first place: "Yes"
He has arrived
You're late
Hey dud, what's your discord?
Why is this dude so concerned with me training on time?
Serious??
Graham Callaghan he was in the marine so that’s expected
@@salmanko5610 I'm confused. He says "Train untamed" not "Train on time" at the end of his video. Train Untamed is the name of his gym. Is this what you guys are referring too? Or is this some kind of in joke and I am missing something? 😂
@@grahamcallaghan5429 it's one of the worst /fit/ memes there are
He should try caring less...
Thank you Alan! For a beginner lifter who’s worrying about how much he can lift before he can actually lift it, these words really put things into perspective. I will forget about “standards” and focus on progressing with the movement.
When I saw that DIY Plate loader...
A whole new era has begun.
small 2.5 plate works good too
@@stelliumeleven2889 I was going to say, that's what I use. The circle makes a great little holder haha
It works as a belt too!
to be precise, it isn´t DIY. This Belt shaped deadlift jack is bought in a shop
I've always cared that I was getting stronger, not necessarily how strong I am.
I wish Alan would use his strength and throw a precise haymaker at my temple and kill me.
Hahaha wtf...Jeez I laughed at that
Hahahaha
You must be in college
No problem, I'll do it fucko
Seriously WTF.
Im 6 months into seriously lifting first time in my life at 40 years old.. I am having a blast lifting... I was a marathon runner and ironman triathlete competing in dozens of these events. 6 foot 4 and 165 lbs. You can imagine how much lean muscle mass I had and what my strength was. I started squatting with just the bar, and sheeze that was tough.. deadlifts 135 and bench, maybe 85 lbs.. in 6 months im at 155 squat, 155 bench, and 265 sumo for 1 rep max. Im thrilled and feel great.. I'm up to 188 lbs, stayed lean and have a diet dialed in.. thank you again for reminding me that the numbers don't matter but big goals are a good thing.. maybe 6 months from now im 1.5x body weight squat and bench and 2x sumo. Thank you again!
If firemen are civilians, there are strength requirements in civilian jobs
I guess one could argue they are paramilitary even though that's more based on rank structure
Wildland as well. There’s a dude on a forest service hotshotcrew that runs lead saw who runs a mile and a half in 7:30. Couple that with the upper body strength needed to run chainsaw for say, 16 hours straight, and you’ve got an exceptional athlete. I think a lot of those dudes on hotshot/smokejumper crews are some of the best all around athletes in America.
They're considered ems
Being one of these types myself (20 yrs Wildland Battalion Chief, 10 years on handcrews/hotshots) I can tell you that making the change from endurance athlete to strength athlete has been challenging to say the least and I'm still struggling with the balance to a great extent. I always did the 3 mile (better point value to run sub 21 min than 1.5 miles sub 9), 22 pull ups, 75 push ups, and 100 odd sit ups (Test standards are you get 10 min recovery after run, then 3 min to get as many pull ups with strict form without dropping from the bar with 7 min recovery, 3 min to get as many push ups strict form elbows break plane with 7 min recovery, and 3 min to get as many sit ups as possible).
We are considered Civil Service Technicians (if fed govt categorized us as firefighters we'd get a crapton more benefits). Up till now I've always avoided bulk because it was just more weight to haul around the mountains....in many ways I'm wishing now I had put in less time cardio and more time strength training when I was younger.
Edit: Minimum standards were mile and a half in 11:00, 7 pull ups, 25 Push ups, and 40 sit ups.
Firefighter's are different. They have a rank structure and protocols kinds like policemen and government employees (Gs1-GS15)
“Have you tried just caring less?” That sounds like him.
Stronger! Is my answer
Wise words
that‘s the spirit!
Not always possible, especially if you're getting old.
Moral of the story there are stars in between the moon and the earth.
No, there are not.
Fart then how do my crops grow in Minecraft?
No there aren’t
Shoot for the moon. If you miss you'll probably float endlessly through cold, empty space.
I remember that saying but they said it as "shoot for the moon because even if you miss you'll hit a star"
When you said “all doctors should be able to deadlift 405” I almost agreed 😂 I can’t even count how many times working in a ER I had to lift a limp body off the floor. Sure not 405 but you should be able to maintain some sort of strength in a emergency situation (even though OSHA would want you to use the lifting devices)
Ore for the cpr, but there is more cardio.
OSHA rules are written by people who have never been in a non standard emergency, violations are part of dealing with stuff
@@Hirnknaker cpr is actually fairly easy if you are mobile, all of the power needed can be generated just with the body weight of a regular person. if you're on a hard surface then staying on your knees for the cpr is harder than the cpr.
@@strawberryinthesky607 thats why you need more cardyo for cpr and not strength
@@Hirnknaker yup
It doesn’t matter how much you lift, it only matters how much you look like you lift.
The only strength standard for work i see is if you can lift 30-50lbs boxes
Yeah and then when you actually get the job you find out the boxes are actually more like 80-95 lbs
@@anomalous34 give an example of a 95 pound box you had to lift at work
@@harkriz415 I don't have to tell you shit little nigga
I work at fedex and they said “be able
To lift up to a 75 pound box” a lot of the heavier boxes will have a label on them saying how much they actually weigh. I see a lot of boxes that are in the 90-105 lbs range. And will occasionally get something that’s in the 130 lbs range. Whenever you have to lift a box that’s 130 pounds, has no knurling, is very big and hard to get into your center of gravity or to even find a decent way to hold. Id say it’s probably close to a 180-200 deadlift.
harkriz415 and as for an example. One night they were sending tires down the conveyor belt. These tires were massive. No way they’d be going on any kind of street vehicle. They also already had the wheels in them. So big rubber tires, with the rims, and with air in it. The label said 135.
Most boxes that come down the belt aren’t too big. But some are. We even get small boxes that can go from 75-90+ lbs.
Thank you, Alan. This video feels like a hug.
First I want to say that I LOVE your videos! Keep them coming please. Second I want to say that WD-40 on raw or broken skin is a really bad idea.Really any skin contact is not a great idea. I spent 9 years working in an environment where I had to work with and know about the dangers of chemicals. You might want to try a cooking oil spray instead to get that tacky off. Way less toxic and can leave your skin buttery smooth ;-) Not trying to preach, just want to see Alan Thrall and his beard for many years to come!
You know, I was wondering for months how strongmen get that crap off their hands/arms/clothes, and when I saw the WD-40 I felt equal senses of "aaaahhh!" and 'AAHHHH!?!"
Baby oil! That's what we use anyway haha
Does pressing like on things get it higher up in the comments? I wanna make sure he sees this. WD-40 can't be a good thing to be spraying on yourself.
Others have lodged similar concerns in older videos. I've noticed it more and more in strongman videos since I started watching Thrall. I hope he isn't influencing more people to put this stuff on their skin. Honestly, I think it smells great...but I wouldn't intentionally use that amount directly on my skin. I've never used the tacky stuff they use in strongman, but Gojo works pretty well for most automotive chemicals, it seems like it would work on that stuff as well. I'm sure it's got some iffy ingredients as well, but since it was designed for skin, perhaps it's a better option?
@@guitarcrazy02 Just your bog standard hand-dishwashing liquid (Fairy, Dawn, Ajax, etc) works wonders on car-work stained hands and costs almost nothing :)
Be however strong you want to be, you don’t need some guy on the internet to tell you what to do
lmao..let me guess🤔...youre probably a weak biotch
exactly man.A lot of guys are too fat as well, who gives a fuck that you can hit certain numbers when you are 25-30% body fat.
@@thomasjameswilliamson5225
If being 99% bodyfat made me the strongest dude on earth, I'd take that.
I don't know where you get this stupid conflation of strength and lean-ness from.
It's like saying: yeah, you are strong, but what about your make up?
Nearly every job I’ve worked has had a “must be able to lift 50lbs”
"These numbers are meaningful to me, but they're completely arbitrary".
I love that you are able to differentiate 'meaningless' from 'arbitrary'. We are free to be the arbiters of our own meaning. So it is completely ok (and probably healthy) to set - to "arbit" - goals, and they do count. They are meaningful to you, they motivate you, they work as goals should, even if there aren't many externally validated (military, medical, legal) standards to which those goals adhere.
Maybe it seems like I'm talking semantics here, but I really do appreciate the real world examples and standards that you mention in this video. Being able to say "this matters because it compromises your health/effectiveness/legality in X, Y, or Z contexts" is such a grounded, reasonable, systematic distinction to make (compare it to the language of True Believers: "if you can't do X, you SUCK and should burn in hell" etc etc). The fact that, in the very same video, you also touch on personal, pragmatic and arbitrary meaningfulness...just goes to show how mature, thought-out and integrated your perspective is. Thank you so much for this.
If you think you’re strong, that’s how you know you’re strength standards are too low!
Gotta have some debilitating body dysmorphia to confuse the ego, right babe?
Djxkoxx F - yes exactly 😍
Djxkoxx F hahaha
You may think you lift, but do you even?
@Adrijana Radosevic in all seriousness tho I know what your getting at and there is much truth in what you said
Really enjoyed every minute of this. Your attitude is spot on. Just live every day to meet the next challenge.
Yes there are strength standards in the civilian workplace, when I worked in a lumber yard I needed to put a 100lb box on a platform at chest height to show I could handle moving awkward shaped objects of decent weight
Hi Alan, neurologist here. I use sit to stands to test myopathy and NMJ disorder impairment. Totally agree it's a useful (and quick) assessment tool.
Liked before I watched. I needed this video.
Blasteon #2176 same
Love the leprosy banner on the wall. Human is my favorite album by them but leprosy is easily top 3 tied with symbolic for #2 for me. Death has always been an underrated band. Just started getting in the gym again. Thanks for the tips. Most people would try to throw out numbers, but I think you're right. There's no one size fits all approach.
Everything after human is just chuck masturbsting all over the place
These were all the standards I used in one of my articles. Solid video once again Alan. Keep it up!
Thanks, Alan, I needed to hear all of this. Especially while dealing with a couple minor injuries and a squat form reset.
I feel like Alan is the only one who talks sense anymore
Watch athlean x
@@theparijat1000 athlean-x is bullshit
Ole how
@@garrettMk3 He is not the type of guide that will help you achieve your best in strength sports. He is all about general fitness
@@cynicaesthetics4341 hahahaha here comes the triggered powerlifter who cant explain why he is bullshit except for the same typical argument "athleanX doesnt teach u powerlifting" when it aint even a powerlifting channel to begin with
On a serious note, your videos have helped me to get back into training and scrutinies my technique, to improve massively. Thanks man, always love the content
Ironically this makes me want to make up some strength standards for myself
This was a nice refresher to watch. After feeling 'unbalanced' after reading internet strength standards, thanks!
Among the best videos you've posted... Ever.
I completely agree. It’s about being slightly better than you were yesterday. The numbers on the bar don’t matter as long as they’re going up.
I remember being very disappointed when my job never tested if I could lift a 50lb box. I was so ready to smash that lift and earn the job.
Anyway, great video. I think the best way to measure strength standards is to just measure against yourself. I weigh 275. When I started training three months ago, I could bench 275. Yesterday, I hit 300. Likewise, my squat went from 425 to 455 and my Deadlift went from 445 to 475. My body weight also went from 285 to 275. With my body weight still being so high, I’m not meeting any of the internet standards, but I feel my training is effective and I can be proud of my lifts. I’m adding weight to the bar and moving it, and I’m losing weight around my belly. That’s what I go to the gym for.
We’re all going to the gym to get better, and gate-keeping with useless, arbitrary standards doesn’t help. You want a good goal to shoot for? Take your current total, add 50 pounds to it, that’s your goal. When you hit it, set another one. Take pride in your victories, because frankly, unless you’re trying to be a world champion powerlifter, comparing yourself to others doesn’t matter. And if you are in the neighborhood of world champion powerlifter, you’re not posting your lifts and BW on Internet forums asking people if those are good
You could bench 275 when you first started? Jesus Christ this is why I have insecurities.
lately, the vids are killing it. i was starting to think the channel was done, but this is top notch info
0:20 didn't know Khabib was a strength athlete too
@96hatt send location
The biggest hypocrite ever that dude is
@@nicoduran98 why?
@@DusmaEduardo Because he Always instigates conflict, but then plays the poor religious victim, associates with a terrorist, a mass murder dictator (kadyrov), calls a man that stole millions from the russian people and was put in jail by putin his “big brother”, build his gym with that ilegal money, mocks homless people , say women don’t belong in MMA, among many other things, but some how he always goes arround saying “bE rEsPeCtFuL aNd hUmbLe”. A disgusting dude with twisted morals.
power stairs? he smesh
Not what I thought this video was gonna be about. But something I really needed to hear. Thanks
I’m loving this week’s schedule goddamit
One of the most rewarding clients ever, an old man that only came in, to stand up out of his wheel chair. A retiree he had no need to do anything anymore, his wife was legitimately worried, never saw a workout so painful for someone...."sit to stand", he would be wincing in pain but later his wife came by and said his doctor was glad he had "trained". Thanks for this Alan, Godspeed, Long Live Our Republic.
190kg / 418lb for 3 x 5 (squat) thanks for calling me an advanced lifter, albeit at the bottom end of advanced.... Means a lot coming from you Alan.... Keep strong..
This is the best video I've seen all year.
So much wisdom, thank you.
You should definitely stream the event, I would love to watch
This video is 1000% worth it just for the DIY deadlift-jack tip alone. Been looking for a solution like that forever. Rest of the vid rocked too.
Thanks for the video man. I'm a pretty skinny dude, but I've always had an incredibly muscular looking chest. I was always insecure about doing bench press with my friends, who despite being much smaller and having flat looking chests, could consistently out lift me. But hey, as long as I'm making progress against myself...that's all that really matters. That's the beauty of lifting imo.
Same thing for me. Could even properly bench press the empty bar in the beginning (18 - 20 kg), a month later I'm nearing 40kg.
6:17 -- THANK YOU for the valuable tip! Was thinking today it would be great to have a dedicated "inner plate" that was of a larger diameter than the outside plates. But your tip solves the problem, too!
Actually i can deadlift 405 lbs. You all can't even imagine how helpful it is while i'm doing my job
It was nice to hear that its okay to deadlift less than you squat. I’m stocky, long torso shorter legs. You always give the best advice
"Every doctor should be able to deadlift 405 pounds"
Dr. Mike: ok ez numbers
Dude your gym is awesome. You are slowly becoming my fav fitness channel. with all that humour. ALso you have helped me by teaching me correct deadlift. Major impact. I used to have so much pain in lumbar region. Now i am "alaning" that barbell without a single uh oh.
When I got hired to work at a Target warehouse they did test our strength as part of the hiring process. Idk what its called but we got tested on these machines that no matter how hard you push pull on them it goes the same speed. We had to do leg extensions leg curls. Ab crunch and back extension. Might of been one more thing. They had do 5 reps as hard as we could and a computer crunched some numbers. Not sure exactly what they were looking for. But it was kinda cool.
Was it the DC in Woodland Ca? Lol i worked there seasonal... tough department. Twas fun!
They're called isokinetic dynamometers. They measure the force applied throughout a range of movement.
What? That’s fucking sweet, dude. Get to show everyone how alpha you are on day one
Only standard i remember from Target was unloading a 2000 piece trailer stacked loose for 50' floor to ceiling in under 90min after its been baking in Florida sun all day. Good times
@@ryank6824 lmao God damn
My Dad was a paramedic for 25+ years
He told he plenty times he saw many many new guys too weak to carry patients on a stretcher, especially down stairs & obese patients.
He also saw loads of the older guys get injured when someone new would drop their end of the stretcher. By staying strong his whole life he managed to retire at 65 with no injuries.
I imagine similar things apply to nurses when moving a patient from bed to bed.
So yeah, healthcare workers do need strength standards too.
7:19 bruh, this video is about to be banned in China
Fuck China and their shitty communist regime. And fuck Lebron James too!
@@ayo_k32 Fuck Lebron？where is your “freedom of expression”, Idiot fuck you!
@@ayo_k32 your country better learn from china before it collapses.
@@jamesjacob9632 I try to tell people to stop voting Democrat!
@@xiangweizhang8336 Lebron can say whatever he wants but he's a dumbass! And he made it clear that he didn't have a damn clue what he was talking about.
There are strength standards in civilian occupations. When I used to cut and stock boxes for Ahold, who owns Stop and Shop, Giant, etc. we had to do a full physical test along with a drug test. You had to be able to lift over 60 pounds above your head ten times (mimicking stocking boxes or stacking pallets), and lift other weights from a wide variety of odd angles with cables, push a box with plates in it across the floor, etc. It wasn't too difficult, but it was comprehensive. Some people failed.
In construction and storage I would suspect strength to be even more valuable than in the military.
@@MrCmon113 Funny you should say that, I'm in the middle of doing weighted pullups before I walk 2.5 miles to my job at a major distribution center. I'm going back into Sales in January though.
That rugby player is a BEAST!!
I think its hershel walker
Henry tuilagi, his highlights are insane
racist!
I've always wanted to know this! Thanks! Old Alan is back
Strong enough to lift Alan’s beard to the sky...
These last couple of videos are so good. (Well they all are but these are extra good)
7:19 Xi Jinping has a bigger squat than deadlift confirmed
So true, it's all about setting yourself goals, reaching those goals, and seeing your strength increase. And not comparing yourself to other.
This has been bugging me like hell. I always look at the different strength standards websites that go by height/weight, but I suppose I won't anymore. I weigh 215, been lifting 3x a week for 18 months and my Squat 1RM is like 225. I feel like I should be a LOT stronger than that, especially after 18 months of perfect attendance. Just finished my second run of Barbell Medicines' Powerlifting Program. My numbers have been increasing, but very slowly.
Everyone progresses at their own rate. Keep grinding, perfect your form, and eat right
Keep on it man. The issue is that when you see standards and numbers that people report, they are flaunted and also you have to remember that the people that are recording their numbers are the ones who had good gains. Those that struggled are not going to go around saying "oh I could bench 225 after 10 years of lifting". Make sense? I think the best website I have found is strengthlevel.com it has a huge pool of recorded lifts. Also you could look at like the USPA's strength standards and it will tell you what a level IV, III, II, I, Master, Elite lifter is capable of. You would be surprised that to enter into Nationals you have to be a Level II lifter....at your weight (215) which would be 220 you only need 1191 to enter the Nationals meet...obviously you will not win, but think about that. The issue is the internet....just go to a gym and see how many people are benching two plates, squatting 3 plates, and deadlifting 4 plates. If I am being honest when I started lifting I could bench 95 pounds, squat 135, and deadlift 165. I weighed 155. Now it is 3 years later and I weigh 185 and I am around maybe 950 on my totals...on estimates now. So there you go......and I have had some injury, went through a depression, etc. and have 3 kids and a busy life. So the only person you can compare to is yourself. That is what lifting is. Hope that helps. Also...all the people on Vitamin S really changes stuff...
Also a lot of people will take off like 5 years of lifting and then come back, get their gains back in like 3-6 months and say "Oh I have been lifting for about 6 months and can deadlift 500". There are so many factors to strength level man.
There probably is a better program for you, but as long as you are progressing and you like the training, why change right?
You sound like a little bitch.
Maybe that's why.
Allen I rarely comment on videos but this video is spot on. Great video man keep them coming.
"Shoot for the moon because if you fall short you'll land on a star", is really dumb. Stars are suns outside of our solar system, meanwhile the moon is the closest thing to earth with a gravity well. If you shoot for the moon and fall short you will fall back to earth, crash and die.
LOL!
so i get strong as fuck or die trying. yeah sounds about right
Or you can hit a satellite on your way down.
It's because the stars look smaller from our point of view
You're a clever one.
Your videos are some of the most informative stuff around. Thank you lad
Anybody else get crazy excited when Alan threw up that pic of Henry Tuilagi!? The Butcher!!
I really like how openminded you are. The music comment was a good example of that
5:10 "You should be squatting.....One THOUSAND pounds!"
6:50 Ray Williams was my strength and conditioning coach at Itawamba Community College (ICC) football (Fulton, MS) in 2015 and 2016. We had the #2 recruiting juco class in the nation behind East Mississippi so we had some extremely strong guys. But Coach Ray pretty much made us look like twigs.
That's awesome, Ray is an insanely strong athlete
@@drew.- during my freshman spring training in 2015 he went to Germany to compete and did really good
I've never even heard of power stairs! Your gym is awesome!
Deondre Clark nah, they suck, they only have one! 🤣
I love this man...so wise and so real. Great as always Alan👍👍👍
7:20 I almost choked on my food lol
last remarks on OHP , front squat & deadlift vs bodyweight i guess are a good standard for an elite level athlete ....not to mention that the music & posters kick ass. Rock on ,man !
You know a fitness youtuber is serious about this when he doesn't film every video shirtless
Alan I love your advice your tips have brought me to new heights feels like I'm leveling up. I'm starting to get to where I want to be and I feel like I owe it to your advice alot so thank you
Im a doctor and I deadlift 315.... Saaaad.
My max is 225 lol
aa dd My 90 year old grandma could pull more than that you puss 😂
@@qEnergize Oh and what are your credentials?
@@NeuronActivation Just a measly 500lbs... at 175lbs BW though
@@qEnergize I was talking about occupation genius.
4:56 Hit the Lights! Great video Alan. Speaking straight facts.
I gotta disagree about the strength standards. I find it to be very motivating to aim for and or reach a strength standard. So I don’t believe that they are dumb. Motivation is probably the number one factor of people quitting.
Depends on what they are. If you work hard for a year and you're still below "limp dick beginner standard" off of some website, I don't think that's very motivating.
I've seen standards for "the average man" that were ~2 standard deviations above the average.
Edit in the beginning was pretty sick dude gonna leave a like just for that
"I'm gonna quote the great Austin Baraki: *'BBRRREEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!'* "
Love the pic of Henry Tuilagi at 4:42 when you talk about rugby players, he was a true freak of nature haha
Dammit. I thought urs at the very least would be a gym where there will NEVER be any bloody reggaeton. I guess my dreams are crushed
One channel that I never regretted subscribing.
"Shoot for the moon, and maybe you'll land on the sun"
@P C is there a closer star to land on?
@@like2ROLL ThE sUn Is NoT a StAr ItS a SuN
@AbolK2 yes, that's the joke. Well done.
and burn up on re-entry..
It's better than landing in Uranus :D
"There are a few reasons why your deadlift might be the same, or even less than, your squat. You could be a short, stocky, individual with a big front porch and stubby little arms."
I did not come here to be attacked like this 💀
''If you cannot bench 225×5, squat 315×5, and deadlift 405×5, then you are probably a novice lifter'' - Alex Alpha Destiny. Im so fucked
Whats wrong being a novice lifter? Imo if that is novice standard you shoud be proud if you break that treshold. Imo 225x1, 315x1,405x1 is closer to my view on novice treshold. And that is already pretty strong compared to the average individual. This is ofc if youre somewhat average height and weight. If youre significantly heavier or lighter than average you shoud adjust it. You cant expect a 140lb dude to be as strong as a 180lb dude with equal experience.
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