never did that at the colts I think someone is not running the routes correctly or at least these players haven't played much together since several missed preseason. Last year Minshew Pittman AR etc got together before preseason
@@petercox6720 lmao, you're delusional. Everyone is running the wrong routes, and it's not his fault ? You mean to tell me that Davante doesn't know what route he's running ? Lol. Gardner Minshew had 5 turnovers against Cleveland last season. Let's see if he can be a little better this time around
No the offensive line wasn't pass blocking well. Cody Whitehair was pushed back into Gardner on just about every single play. And the run blocking scheme is garbage...
There’s literal tape. The O line is fine not the best but fine. Gardner holds on to the ball way too long and is only “mobile” when he’s panicked (and he panics a lot)
It's not a question anymore, the stats back the assertion that Min holds the ball too long and needlessly takes sacks. It's worthless to keep blaming the oline at this point. Are they stellar? no, but certainly serviceable at least and surely not our biggest issue on that side of the ball.
When I watch what he's done over the last 3 games, it makes me furious when people say "He makes plays with his legs" or "O'Connell is a statue". Dude is indecisive with the ball, stares down receivers, throws the ball late, is not highly accurate, looks at the rush instead of making reads, runs around in circles until he gets sacked. Aidan obviously has so much better command of the offense, is more decisive and gets the ball out quicker. Sorry, but we know what Minshew's ceiling is, and we're living it right now. It's not "Mania" or "Magic" it's MEDIOCRITY.
O'Connell's ability to process his reads much faster and throw the ball with zip would help the o-line. Minshew runs like a scared lil ass boy when there are receivers wide open!
Right. We need to go back to AOC for real. I know that we knock him Kuzz he doesn't scramble but he does read the play quicker and gets the ball out fast and accurate
@@abdulsmith9298AIDAN DOES SCRAMBLE OMFG HE DID THAT IN PURDUE!!! HE DID IT AGAINST THE PANTHERS THIS PAST WEEK AND VS THE JETS LAST YEAR!!! COME ON MAN!!!
@@youin24years He doesn't take off and run when the pocket collapse around him like a Lamar Jackson , Patrick mahomes and a Josh Allen he'll just stand there and take the sack which he did a lot of last year. But i've also seen him scrambled sometimes or what i like is when he moves up in the pocket to let the rush go by him and he'll make the throw right but what it is is he's just inconsistent with it . He said that he patterned his game after Tom Brady but hell even Tom Brady will scramble to get out of the pocket to keep the play going so damn man we're just saying keep the drive alive if you can. Look last thing , he even said out of his own mouth that he likes to stay in the pocket and try to get the play down instead of taking off and running lol. Come on man real talk but i want AOC like i said Kuzz even with all that said he gets the ball out quicker than Minshew and he has a stronger arm to throw the deep ball we want thrown and he's more accurate than Minshew.
Raiders offense like most is based on timing, when minchew runs his receivers are open when minchew looks they're covered, a fraction of a second to late, so this is what you get extending the play? another thing he has a tendency of holding the ball to long again a fraction of a second to late, One comparison I will make AOC will take a hit but will get the ball to his receiver if he was worried about taking a hit then he would probably run like minchew does.
I think Mark Davis and Tom Telesco are signing off on Gardner Minshew as our starter.AP was high on AOC all last year and this past off season.He made it known but Minshew named starter after the 2nd pre season game..Someone obviously stepped in from up top
AP is a rookie and yes the General Manager wanted Minshew to start and was hoping Adams would play a little preseason to get some chemistry. That fumble by Minshew game one was a miscommunication and interception game 3. Hope Adams can get on the same page as Minshew
Adams is always, and i mean ALWAYS OPEN on crossing routes and out routes. No one can guard him even if he has man coverage all over him, the catch is there! Yet, naw, mr minshew has to play hero ball and run around and gets the yips from being scared of his new team protection. It's worse than carr even after carr cameback from injury. We are on track to a 4-13/6-11 at best season. Everything else is just snake oil and pixie dust.
Thanks Carl! Absolutely great breakdown. Probably the best I've seen of a complete explanation of Minshew. AOC does not have mobility but has his eyes down field and willingness to stay in pocket and find open receivers. We don't know yet if AOC is the answer, but I believe we know Gardner is not, long term. Time for AOC.
Antonio Pierce doesn't see this, he should be fired for not doing his job. If the Raiders lose against the Browns someone needs to be fired ASAP 🏴☠️🏴☠️
It always felt like they were gonna give Minshew 4 games because they brought up the first 4 when he became the starter. One more loss and change is coming. 🤔
I was wondering him throwing early etc may be due to the fact he cant see over the middle...so he is always adjusting etc. Id imagine that could make it difficult
Your break down is good unfortunately we have 2 backup QB's and no run game with a OC that makes a skunk smell better than the perfume section at a department store
No running game due to oline,no pressure to the QB unless it's Maxx, Adams dropped multiple 1st downs and the playcalling is horrible so this was a team lost,not all on minshew but he is very limited and we knew this when we signed him to 30 mil guaranteed
@charlesrazo7246 that was the SB, AFC championship game loss and the tuck rule. At least the team was good and relevant. I blame the ownership for this. MD has made crappy decisions with HCs and GMs
Most of us did not want Gardner Minshew as the starter. Because we already knew all this about him. Aiden O'Connell processes information faster as a quicker release stronger arm and I believe would help that offensive line when he gets the ball out quicker.
How dare you watch the film Carl! Lol! Film never lies. Great job detailing your observances. My personal scouting report from Training Camp, which is from a coaches point of view and not a beat writer who has never coached, detailed Minshew's practices as an impatient hurried progression reader, erratic and sloppy eye discipline and pocket presence. Will sprinkle a good well executed play about 10-20% of the time. He specializes on completing the outlet pass which will produce a high completion % on the stat line. Big concern is lack of consistent ability to see 2nd and 3rd level reads. After 3 games and a little under 12 quarters of play, his performance hasn't changed my scouting report. AP obviously feels that type of Qb play merits the Qb1 job and continued opportunities to start for this team.
I’m still willing to give Minshew a little more time . New offense , different offensive line up every week, Bad play calls. No run game… So many other problems. He deserves a little more time.. a least a couple more games .
I don’t get some peoples logic. I’m not saying for sure Getsy doesn’t have any blame. But this is a QB driven league. When you think of teams playing in the Playoffs or the SB, you don’t think “oh it’s this OC vs this OC which one will draw up better plays?” When the off season begins, you don’t think “oh let me see which free agent OCs are out there, our record was bad.” No one says, “let’s not draft the best available QB, we need the 8th best QB prospect because he fits our OC scheme the best.” When you think of the greatest QBs of all time, is it because of the way they played the game, or do you think of the OC and say they had the best plays for that player succeed. I can carry on but I hope you get my point.
I thought starting Minishew would be better since he is better at scrambling versus AOC. But that becomes irrelevant if Minshew has happy feet & isn't looking down field.
the reason(s) i was PRAYING aidan was QB1 coming into the year minshew has and always will consistently miss easy/wide open throws because he bails on clean pockets and walks into sacks he's been making the OL look even worse than they've been since he took his first snap
Come on man! The OL has been terrible since week 1, I agree, Minshew has had a lot of mistakes, but the OL hasn't helped him, AOC would be in the same position or worse.
I think his deep ball is more catchable than 'good'. Ibalways feel like Tucker has to slow down for the ball with Minshew. And, yeah - this video is what I was worried about with him.
Wish Devante would run his routes correctly. It appears it has cost the raiders 2 turnovers and 2 dropped TD's. Raiders Great Eric Allen said these players havn't played together very much. Last year Minshew, AR, Pittman, etc all trained together before preseason and I don't recall Minshew making that kind of mistake.
We just watched the difference with Carolina. A real pocket passer who can get the ball out quickly was all the difference they needed. The same goes for the Raiders. Start AOC he has the arm talent.
Man I don't get all of the Minshew apologists getting all bent out of shape when he has played 1 respectable quarter. IDGAF who the QB is I just want to see wins and he ain't getting it done. He cannot see the field. Puts his eyes down so doesn't see patterns opening up. NEVER throws a receiver open. and has happy feet. I don't care what the name is on the jersey we need a different QB
it's much deeper Business Decisions AP is telling the players it's out of his hands. AP is a players coach he motivates players he takes players and makes them better on the field. AP telling players Telesco will have his job and Getsey job and the whole coaching staff walking papers when players don't show up for games. These players are under contract AP is telling them it's his job to make sure the players are playing 100% on the field if injury get off the field the next guy up. Telesco not seeing it 100 % on the field on Panthers game. AP telling the players they are making a business decision to get traded , cut and replaced before Telesco starts signing free Agents who want to play. If they can't play for AP they basically out. AP has a job to do and the players aren't doing it. It's a chemistry problem it's the players are not putting in the effort for what ever reason. They just need to focus on what the staff put together make it work. If it's power block your ass off for the backs. If your on defense play your ass off. Minshew has to read the open receiver. Raiders need yo focus ripping out the ball on defense. Linebackers and Defensive backs don't get burnt bt backs and TE and receivers.
Getsy is a micro-manager, ok? Gardner isn't lucky enough to call 1/2 his own plays, or else the Raiders would be having a different outcome, ok? Quit trashing Gardner, pa-lease!!!
On drives where he got sacked (1 drive) he also got 1 TD...AOC is only going to get better with time. We will lose the team and lose key players if they keep minshew in playing shitty ball like he has his whole career.
I mean, the lightning in the bottle was Crosby and Koonce. Maxx's high ankle sprain is no bueno. Those are season killers. Maybe the Raiders make a run in the second half of the year IF the ankle gets better someday down the road. So important to somehow get to 4-5 before the bye in week 10. Longshot.
Man Tucker would have had a day if all those shots got to him, wow I can't believe he gets that open. QB's never seem to throw the ball quick enough after the snap, guys are 5 yards past the defender, that ball needs to come out quick and in front of their route.
He didn’t say that at all. He said he wanted the best player to start and AOC had starting qualities, but he never specifically said which QB he wanted. Now if you bench Gardner Minshew and the offense still has poor QB performance considering AOC really didn’t play that well last season statistically speaking. Who are you going to blame next?? Chargers was a fluke game and he didn’t do shit vs the Chiefs. The team relied heavily on the defense last year and still couldn’t make a winning season. So I don’t understand why everyone is dick riding. Minshew is the better option right now unless the trade for someone else
@@elmorelee1140 fans were complained about Minshew when he played at Jacksonville and had a couple avg/bad games. Foles came in and was worse. I never seen Minshew with a fumble first game and interception 3rd game must have been miscommunication or a bad route. Raiders great Eric Allen said these players haven't played together much.
@@petercox6720 exactly! It’s not one specific position that is playing poorly, it’s the offense overall. With that being said you could point fingers at the offensive coordinator. But at the end of the day it all comes down to execution. The team is playing with no chemistr
They've had 3 fucking months to play with each other. If shit isn't clicking, it's on poor QB play end of story. You mfs are acting like MIDshew was just signed to the team a few days before week 1 started @@petercox6720
Excellent breakdown. Minshew is playing scared and with little confidence. Something has to change, AOC is going to get his chance hopefully soon. RN4L
I don't think changing the QB is going to turn us around. Our O line is terrible. 2.8 yds per Carry isnt going to cut it. If Gardner Minshew hasn't been effective after 5 games, then give AOC a shot . Or sign an o line.
Great breakdown, is it possible that the Head Coach doesn't have the say who starts at QB?, and it's the GM who wants Minshew to start because of his contract, getting paid more than AOC?
They really need to give AOC a legitimate opportunity to show what he can do. But because they paid Minshew and he was hired by Tom Telesco they are going with Minshew unfortunately. I say unfortunately because Minshew has already shown us what he can do.
Were are right...right and right again if Minshew doesn't keep his eyes up by now...what are we talking about...i think it's time for someone else...RN4L
Not sure why Minshew ever started over AOC or why this is still an issue? AOC can see the field, makes his progressions and has a quick accurate release. Why is Pierce "sticking w him?"
This is what I’ve been saying. You’re correct. The issue is Minshew. Why keep blaming Getsy for open ass WRs. Btw - I’d hardly call Dalton marquee. He was serviceable.
@@kungfuamerican how many times in the past has a Raiders defense made a serviceable quarterback look marquee? Many times. And made average running backs look like super stars...
Aiden couldn’t play any worse the Minshew so damn straight he should be moving to Aiden before this season is over! Aiden’s floor is Minshews ceiling..
People still saying it’s the o line and getsy play calling open your eyes minshew does not make quick decisions we couldn’t run the ball last year till aoc was playing
7:44 why are the WRs in the same area as eachother. Mayer and Tucker are basically running the same exact route. Meyers is running the shorter version. 2 things can be true. Minshew can be better. Getsy can also stop lining his WRs up on the same side to run identical looking routes.
BENCHshew is consistently inconsistent. The o line isn’t great AT all, BUT knowing that, if there’s ANY resemblance of a run lane on busted pass plays, TAKE OFF & RUN! I’d take a 2 yd gain over a sack, int or incomplete ALL DAY!
I love your videos! But can’t put the blame fully on Gardner that play calling is awful. And being honest that O line is horrible. Minshew gives us the best chance to win, AOC would crumble behind that o line. Anybody can look good in garbage time
The fact that Bowets o my got the ball four times in this game makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The TE are not being used effectively and that’s hurting us..
Also, his footwork is terrible when he’s moving around the pocket. He’s all over the place so it’s no wonder his passes are all over the place. He looks so uncomfortable in the pocket and I don’t understand why that suddenly an issue for him?
This way running QB sucks, different from a scrabbling QB…. Running QB thinks about run first before throwing. It works until the opponent starts film studies
Shout out to all the "Minshew Mania" bros whom I told before the season that Minshew is nothing more than a backup and that his mobility is vastly overrated for how quickly he gets off his reads 😊
Damn Carl this film review is getting me pissed! He has time all you need is roughly 2 seconds. Now granted I don’t blame him for pocket collapsing after half a second. That’s happened multiple times this season but Dalton wasn’t hanging on to the ball. He was hiking and popping the ball out of there. Minshew need to trust his receivers and his arm. Take advantage of what the defense gives you. I’m starting to think he is shell shocked. If he can’t cut it and the pressure is too much put the kid in. Have AOC know he has a stopwatch in his head for 2 seconds. Tom Brady, one I totally hate to bring up, was the master at getting the ball out. Hell all of the the elite QB’s minus Allen and Jackson do that. Football isn’t that hard we have weapons. Use them!!!!
I hate to have contradiction among Raider Nation theirs a reason Minshew is playing and not AOC. Getsey scheme is set for Aaron Rogers hit players on the run use the side arm throw at times if Bowers or Zeus drop passes it takes the players time to learn how to catch Minshew has throw ball has spin like its coming hard but then it's a sinker. I agree Getsey called a great game Minshew could of been better on the deep throws but Minshew is the Aaron Rogers not AOC. Getsey wants Minshew for sure. That means Raiders fans if your change your thinking to the Raiders OC Getsey get behind Minshew like me. "Just WIN BABY!" Al Davis. AOC not starting no matter what until Minshew not Getsey QB who cares about what other opinions there are it's Getsey call on Offense who the QB is to play. The defense look better today! The Offense look way better today! We Raiders are 2 and 2 baby!
Gardner scrambles to early and doesn’t see wide open receivers
its because he is in fact a lil a$$ boy
Exmactly
The INT he threw in Baltimore and the one against Carolina looked almost identical.
never did that at the colts I think someone is not running the routes correctly or at least these players haven't played much together since several missed preseason. Last year Minshew Pittman AR etc got together before preseason
@@petercox6720 lmao, you're delusional. Everyone is running the wrong routes, and it's not his fault ? You mean to tell me that Davante doesn't know what route he's running ? Lol. Gardner Minshew had 5 turnovers against Cleveland last season. Let's see if he can be a little better this time around
No the offensive line wasn't pass blocking well. Cody Whitehair was pushed back into Gardner on just about every single play. And the run blocking scheme is garbage...
Gardner isnt helping them, making it harder on them and runs into preasure too
There’s literal tape. The O line is fine not the best but fine. Gardner holds on to the ball way too long and is only “mobile” when he’s panicked (and he panics a lot)
@@Jarlfenris no no no. Getsy is making hard on the team
It's not a question anymore, the stats back the assertion that Min holds the ball too long and needlessly takes sacks. It's worthless to keep blaming the oline at this point. Are they stellar? no, but certainly serviceable at least and surely not our biggest issue on that side of the ball.
@@Desmo1 bull 💩
Whitehair constantly gets pushed back, and into the qbs lap.. and you call that pretty good pass pro ??
I've always believed in AOC he's a better QB
He isn’t better, but probably not worse either… both stink
You mean the AOC is complete a single pass in over 3 quarters? The AOC that we lost 3-0 in q game with, that AOC?
I think he has better arm talent, has chemistry with the receivers, and makes better reads than Gardner. I'd like to see him starting.
@@jesseturk1353 precisely, and Davante Adam's endorsed AOC to be the starting QB over Minshew.
Can’t wait till he gets his chance
You can't blame play calling for that shit. I would say Getsy is scheming recievers open. Minshew is just to skittish to get them the ball.
He is too skittish, but he has an arm. It's unfortunate cause he could be elite. It is evident this is his 4th team.
AOC has an arm too@@wheeler9161
@@wheeler9161Minshew doesn’t have a strong arm, he under throws a lot of balls.
Misses the easy throws! We need AOC
Exactly why Aidan should start. These casuals really wanted Minshew wtf
When I watch what he's done over the last 3 games, it makes me furious when people say "He makes plays with his legs" or "O'Connell is a statue". Dude is indecisive with the ball, stares down receivers, throws the ball late, is not highly accurate, looks at the rush instead of making reads, runs around in circles until he gets sacked. Aidan obviously has so much better command of the offense, is more decisive and gets the ball out quicker. Sorry, but we know what Minshew's ceiling is, and we're living it right now. It's not "Mania" or "Magic" it's MEDIOCRITY.
Exactly
O'Connell's ability to process his reads much faster and throw the ball with zip would help the o-line.
Minshew runs like a scared lil ass boy when there are receivers wide open!
Right. We need to go back to AOC for real. I know that we knock him Kuzz he doesn't scramble but he does read the play quicker and gets the ball out fast and accurate
@@abdulsmith9298AIDAN DOES SCRAMBLE OMFG HE DID THAT IN PURDUE!!! HE DID IT AGAINST THE PANTHERS THIS PAST WEEK AND VS THE JETS LAST YEAR!!! COME ON MAN!!!
@@youin24years He doesn't take off and run when the pocket collapse around him like a Lamar Jackson , Patrick mahomes and a Josh Allen he'll just stand there and take the sack which he did a lot of last year. But i've also seen
him scrambled sometimes or what i like is when he moves up in the pocket to let the rush go by him and he'll make the throw right but what it is is he's just inconsistent with it . He said that he patterned his game after Tom Brady but hell even Tom Brady will scramble to get out of the pocket to keep the play going so damn man we're just saying keep the drive alive if you can. Look last thing , he even said out of his own mouth that he likes to stay in the pocket and try to get the play down instead of taking off and running lol. Come on man real talk but i want AOC like i said Kuzz even with all that said he gets the ball out quicker than Minshew and he has a stronger arm to throw the deep ball we want thrown and he's more accurate than Minshew.
😆 🤣 I see what u did
Almost threw a pick when they put him in on Sunday. The defender just dropped it.
Whitehair on every passing downs was in the QB's lap. He can't block for shit. JPJ looked awesome.
People talk about AOC not being a runner. All I see from Minshew is happy feet.
AOC steps up in the pocket pretty well and throws accurate
Raiders offense like most is based on timing, when minchew runs his receivers are open when minchew looks they're covered, a fraction of a second to late, so this is what you get extending the play? another thing he has a tendency of holding the ball to long again a fraction of a second to late, One comparison I will make AOC will take a hit but will get the ball to his receiver if he was worried about taking a hit then he would probably run
like minchew does.
Does Aidan see the field better? If the answer is yes, then he would be a better option than Minshew, based on this presentation.
Yes thanks hope Ap see this ! Aoc should hv stated the season at qb i believe the team will rally behind him like thay did last year
I believe the ONLY reason Minshew is starting is because of Telasco.
I think Mark Davis and Tom Telesco are signing off on Gardner Minshew as our starter.AP was high on AOC all last year and this past off season.He made it known but Minshew named starter after the 2nd pre season game..Someone obviously stepped in from up top
AP is a rookie and yes the General Manager wanted Minshew to start and was hoping Adams would play a little preseason to get some chemistry. That fumble by Minshew game one was a miscommunication and interception game 3. Hope Adams can get on the same page as Minshew
Adams is always, and i mean ALWAYS OPEN on crossing routes and out routes. No one can guard him even if he has man coverage all over him, the catch is there! Yet, naw, mr minshew has to play hero ball and run around and gets the yips from being scared of his new team protection. It's worse than carr even after carr cameback from injury. We are on track to a 4-13/6-11 at best season. Everything else is just snake oil and pixie dust.
Thanks Carl! Absolutely great breakdown. Probably the best I've seen of a complete explanation of Minshew. AOC does not have mobility but has his eyes down field and willingness to stay in pocket and find open receivers. We don't know yet if AOC is the answer, but I believe we know Gardner is not, long term. Time for AOC.
Minshew is terrible bruh😂 but he’ll probably be benched by week 5
I hope so. I called under 6 games when the season started.
I call them the minshew maniacs they love that guy😂
O line is trash
He's not the only one; DeVonte had 3- 4 drops, I was wondering if the 'business decisions' AP talked about included those... :=8/
Antonio Pierce doesn't see this, he should be fired for not doing his job. If the Raiders lose against the Browns someone needs to be fired ASAP 🏴☠️🏴☠️
Wow. Excellent video. You make very good observations.
They can't run or stop the run. They can't pass block or rush the passer. Disappointing.
Yea but max crosby likes him so it’s ok. Just like he picked the coach that has no credentials thanks Max hope we get to like 6 wins this year
6:37 there is a deep safety when you say tre is breaking open.
True
Yeaa... But Adams and Meyers both open also
It always felt like they were gonna give Minshew 4 games because they brought up the first 4 when he became the starter. One more loss and change is coming. 🤔
I was wondering him throwing early etc may be due to the fact he cant see over the middle...so he is always adjusting etc. Id imagine that could make it difficult
Your break down is good unfortunately we have 2 backup QB's and no run game with a OC that makes a skunk smell better than the perfume section at a department store
No running game due to oline,no pressure to the QB unless it's Maxx, Adams dropped multiple 1st downs and the playcalling is horrible so this was a team lost,not all on minshew but he is very limited and we knew this when we signed him to 30 mil guaranteed
Same old Raiders roller coaster :(
After 1984 it’s been the same old story one excuse after another
We're you not around 99 thru 2002? Those were good years
@@dsnowman2675 wasn’t that the year that they lost the Super Bowl and blame it on the head coach ?
@@dsnowman2675 you weren’t around when the Raiders won them three Super Bowls 🏆🏆🏆
@charlesrazo7246 that was the SB, AFC championship game loss and the tuck rule. At least the team was good and relevant. I blame the ownership for this. MD has made crappy decisions with HCs and GMs
@@dsnowman2675 did you ever get to see the three Super Bowl wins or just the one they lost?
Carl, I’m disappointed you haven’t posted a video with game film of the “business decisions” and how they are costing the Raiders.
Most of us did not want Gardner Minshew as the starter. Because we already knew all this about him. Aiden O'Connell processes information faster as a quicker release stronger arm and I believe would help that offensive line when he gets the ball out quicker.
How dare you watch the film Carl! Lol! Film never lies. Great job detailing your observances.
My personal scouting report from Training Camp, which is from a coaches point of view and not a beat writer who has never coached, detailed Minshew's practices as an impatient hurried progression reader, erratic and sloppy eye discipline and pocket presence. Will sprinkle a good well executed play about 10-20% of the time. He specializes on completing the outlet pass which will produce a high completion % on the stat line. Big concern is lack of consistent ability to see 2nd and 3rd level reads.
After 3 games and a little under 12 quarters of play, his performance hasn't changed my scouting report.
AP obviously feels that type of Qb play merits the Qb1 job and continued opportunities to start for this team.
I’m still willing to give Minshew a little more time . New offense , different offensive line up every week, Bad play calls. No run game… So many other problems. He deserves a little more time.. a least a couple more games .
I don’t get some peoples logic. I’m not saying for sure Getsy doesn’t have any blame. But this is a QB driven league.
When you think of teams playing in the Playoffs or the SB, you don’t think “oh it’s this OC vs this OC which one will draw up better plays?” When the off season begins, you don’t think “oh let me see which free agent OCs are out there, our record was bad.” No one says, “let’s not draft the best available QB, we need the 8th best QB prospect because he fits our OC scheme the best.” When you think of the greatest QBs of all time, is it because of the way they played the game, or do you think of the OC and say they had the best plays for that player succeed. I can carry on but I hope you get my point.
Been saying AOC
But neither guy is taking us far
We need franchise qb and we have to draft
I was pissed we missed out on Daniels
Have faith friend, it’s only been 3 games.
I thought starting Minishew would be better since he is better at scrambling versus AOC. But that becomes irrelevant if Minshew has happy feet & isn't looking down field.
Fake Snake is going to cost us the season ! AOC is the man for the job.
the reason(s) i was PRAYING aidan was QB1 coming into the year
minshew has and always will consistently miss easy/wide open throws because he bails on clean pockets and walks into sacks
he's been making the OL look even worse than they've been since he took his first snap
Come on man! The OL has been terrible since week 1, I agree, Minshew has had a lot of mistakes, but the OL hasn't helped him, AOC would be in the same position or worse.
I think his deep ball is more catchable than 'good'. Ibalways feel like Tucker has to slow down for the ball with Minshew. And, yeah - this video is what I was worried about with him.
Looked like receivers were covered. With no run game the defense only has to play the pass
Adams is never covered! Happy feet is holding the ball to much !
Did you watch the same video as me?
@@brianpavlik9104 probably Sanji I watch all raiders content
Wish Devante would run his routes correctly. It appears it has cost the raiders 2 turnovers and 2 dropped TD's. Raiders Great Eric Allen said these players havn't played together very much. Last year Minshew, AR, Pittman, etc all trained together before preseason and I don't recall Minshew making that kind of mistake.
My Grandmother could complete those passes 'Check down Charlie' is throwing-and she can't go to her Left!🤣🤣
Minshew looks like Ray Gun breaking dancing in the pocket
We just watched the difference with Carolina. A real pocket passer who can get the ball out quickly was all the difference they needed. The same goes for the Raiders. Start AOC he has the arm talent.
I'm so surprised how tre and jakobi are not being used. Hardagree had them doing all sorts of versatile gadget stuff.
Man I don't get all of the Minshew apologists getting all bent out of shape when he has played 1 respectable quarter. IDGAF who the QB is I just want to see wins and he ain't getting it done. He cannot see the field. Puts his eyes down so doesn't see patterns opening up. NEVER throws a receiver open. and has happy feet. I don't care what the name is on the jersey we need a different QB
it's much deeper Business Decisions AP is telling the players it's out of his hands. AP is a players coach he motivates players he takes players and makes them better on the field. AP telling players Telesco will have his job and Getsey job and the whole coaching staff walking papers when players don't show up for games. These players are under contract AP is telling them it's his job to make sure the players are playing 100% on the field if injury get off the field the next guy up. Telesco not seeing it 100 % on the field on Panthers game. AP telling the players they are making a business decision to get traded , cut and replaced before Telesco starts signing free Agents who want to play. If they can't play for AP they basically out. AP has a job to do and the players aren't doing it. It's a chemistry problem it's the players are not putting in the effort for what ever reason. They just need to focus on what the staff put together make it work. If it's power block your ass off for the backs. If your on defense play your ass off. Minshew has to read the open receiver. Raiders need yo focus ripping out the ball on defense. Linebackers and Defensive backs don't get burnt bt backs and TE and receivers.
Great perspective on QB play. Very revealing! Getsy could help but he hasn’t.
Getsy is a micro-manager, ok? Gardner isn't lucky enough to call 1/2 his own plays, or else the Raiders would be having a different outcome, ok? Quit trashing Gardner, pa-lease!!!
AOC is being Developed.we cant put him in with a garbage O line that gave up like 10 sacks in 2 games and averages 5 yards a rush game.
The sacks are cause the qb is holdinv the ball for no reason
AOC SUCKS PLEASE STOP WITH THIS….HIS CEILING IS BACK UP
Ummmmmm, AOC started most of the last year soooo....
Aoc gets rid of the ball quick. Will def help our issue at the line
On drives where he got sacked (1 drive) he also got 1 TD...AOC is only going to get better with time. We will lose the team and lose key players if they keep minshew in playing shitty ball like he has his whole career.
Hope my raiders bounce back god in 2016 I never thought I’d have to pray for us to beat the browns
It’s a combination of the line and minshew! But honestly even though O’Connell can’t run, he’s shown to be more decisive
Tucker wasn’t open on that deep ball safety was over top it’s in your video
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I mean, the lightning in the bottle was Crosby and Koonce. Maxx's high ankle sprain is no bueno. Those are season killers. Maybe the Raiders make a run in the second half of the year IF the ankle gets better someday down the road. So important to somehow get to 4-5 before the bye in week 10. Longshot.
Starting that guy was a terrible decision ....
Man Tucker would have had a day if all those shots got to him, wow I can't believe he gets that open. QB's never seem to throw
the ball quick enough after the snap, guys are 5 yards past the defender, that ball needs to come out quick and in front of their route.
Another poor outing or bad start, we need to have AOC step in. Devante Adams has said before that he wanted him starting over Minshew
He didn’t say that at all. He said he wanted the best player to start and AOC had starting qualities, but he never specifically said which QB he wanted. Now if you bench Gardner Minshew and the offense still has poor QB performance considering AOC really didn’t play that well last season statistically speaking. Who are you going to blame next?? Chargers was a fluke game and he didn’t do shit vs the Chiefs. The team relied heavily on the defense last year and still couldn’t make a winning season. So I don’t understand why everyone is dick riding. Minshew is the better option right now unless the trade for someone else
@@elmorelee1140 fans were complained about Minshew when he played at Jacksonville and had a couple avg/bad games. Foles came in and was worse. I never seen Minshew with a fumble first game and interception 3rd game must have been miscommunication or a bad route. Raiders great Eric Allen said these players haven't played together much.
@@petercox6720 exactly! It’s not one specific position that is playing poorly, it’s the offense overall. With that being said you could point fingers at the offensive coordinator. But at the end of the day it all comes down to execution. The team is playing with no chemistr
They've had 3 fucking months to play with each other. If shit isn't clicking, it's on poor QB play end of story. You mfs are acting like MIDshew was just signed to the team a few days before week 1 started @@petercox6720
Excellent breakdown. Minshew is playing scared and with little confidence. Something has to change, AOC is going to get his chance hopefully soon. RN4L
I don't think changing the QB is going to turn us around. Our O line is terrible. 2.8 yds per Carry isnt going to cut it. If Gardner Minshew hasn't been effective after 5 games, then give AOC a shot . Or sign an o line.
Great breakdown, is it possible that the Head Coach doesn't have the say who starts at QB?, and it's the GM who wants Minshew to start because of his contract, getting paid more than AOC?
It was clean for a second but it gets dirty quick
They really need to give AOC a legitimate opportunity to show what he can do. But because they paid Minshew and he was hired by Tom Telesco they are going with Minshew unfortunately. I say unfortunately because Minshew has already shown us what he can do.
Were are right...right and right again if Minshew doesn't keep his eyes up by now...what are we talking about...i think it's time for someone else...RN4L
Not sure why Minshew ever started over AOC or why this is still an issue? AOC can see the field, makes his progressions and has a quick accurate release. Why is Pierce "sticking w him?"
TOM TELESCO climbing the ranks of all-time Charger GM's now that he's a Raider😮😅😊
This is what I’ve been saying. You’re correct. The issue is Minshew. Why keep blaming Getsy for open ass WRs. Btw - I’d hardly call Dalton marquee. He was serviceable.
@@kungfuamerican how many times in the past has a Raiders defense made a serviceable quarterback look marquee? Many times. And made average running backs look like super stars...
@@barrettcarl3009 100%. I’d say basically - every time.
Well Carl, you can see it and I can see it, why can’t AP see it or Getsy or Telesco???
Team Minshew !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Minshew will be great !!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would not want nothing to do with this shit you’ve been eating
6:18 #75 was getting past parham so gardner would've taken a sack in that scenario
Aiden couldn’t play any worse the Minshew so damn straight he should be moving to Aiden before this season is over! Aiden’s floor is Minshews ceiling..
AOC see the field and gets the ball out fast to wide receivers he's are best chance to win any games this year. GM is a back up that all
People still saying it’s the o line and getsy play calling open your eyes minshew does not make quick decisions we couldn’t run the ball last year till aoc was playing
“Don’t blame the offensive line” LOL
ITS FAIR TO BLAME THEM BOTH
AP should’ve never gone with him! Aiden is the better QB and it’s obvious.
I guess we know who AP was talking about when he said someone's making business decisions!
Man, I love your film vids, but the beats you put in the background sometimes are way too loud and honestly hella distracting 😅
This video proves our o line ain't as bad as ppl say....minshew is not a threat... ...tgsts why our running game is so bad
And the other question AP needs to answer to is why is he still playing GM, AO has outplayed him in camp and now his one drive week 3
I'm seriously wondering if Uncle Rico is Telesco's sacrificial lamb to tank our season for a shiny new QB?
7:44 why are the WRs in the same area as eachother. Mayer and Tucker are basically running the same exact route. Meyers is running the shorter version. 2 things can be true. Minshew can be better. Getsy can also stop lining his WRs up on the same side to run identical looking routes.
BENCHshew is consistently inconsistent.
The o line isn’t great AT all, BUT knowing that, if there’s ANY resemblance of a run lane on busted pass plays, TAKE OFF & RUN!
I’d take a 2 yd gain over a sack, int or incomplete ALL DAY!
He's only gonna get one more game . If he keeps shitting the bed he's done week 5
I forgot . . how many games has he shut the bed ?
I love your videos! But can’t put the blame fully on Gardner that play calling is awful. And being honest that O line is horrible. Minshew gives us the best chance to win, AOC would crumble behind that o line. Anybody can look good in garbage time
The fact that Bowets o my got the ball four times in this game makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. The TE are not being used effectively and that’s hurting us..
I think it may have more to do with his Brock getting hit then entering the concussion protocol.
Also, his footwork is terrible when he’s moving around the pocket. He’s all over the place so it’s no wonder his passes are all over the place. He looks so uncomfortable in the pocket and I don’t understand why that suddenly an issue for him?
This way running QB sucks, different from a scrabbling QB…. Running QB thinks about run first before throwing. It works until the opponent starts film studies
Shout out to all the "Minshew Mania" bros whom I told before the season that Minshew is nothing more than a backup and that his mobility is vastly overrated for how quickly he gets off his reads 😊
IMO Gardner hasn't shown that he gives us a better chance to win than AOC. So AOC should be given a chance to start.
At least O' Connell stays in the pocket until the last second, Minshew runs out and into the rush and doesn't let the receivers get open...
We was chanting for him at the home opener sec 124 and they put em in
I kept saying all game that minshew was creating his own sacks!! That boy has poor field vision
Damn Carl this film review is getting me pissed! He has time all you need is roughly 2 seconds. Now granted I don’t blame him for pocket collapsing after half a second. That’s happened multiple times this season but Dalton wasn’t hanging on to the ball. He was hiking and popping the ball out of there. Minshew need to trust his receivers and his arm. Take advantage of what the defense gives you. I’m starting to think he is shell shocked. If he can’t cut it and the pressure is too much put the kid in. Have AOC know he has a stopwatch in his head for 2 seconds. Tom Brady, one I totally hate to bring up, was the master at getting the ball out. Hell all of the the elite QB’s minus Allen and Jackson do that. Football isn’t that hard we have weapons. Use them!!!!
Getsy & the OL are the ones costing us
I hate to have contradiction among Raider Nation theirs a reason Minshew is playing and not AOC. Getsey scheme is set for Aaron Rogers hit players on the run use the side arm throw at times if Bowers or Zeus drop passes it takes the players time to learn how to catch Minshew has throw ball has spin like its coming hard but then it's a sinker. I agree Getsey called a great game Minshew could of been better on the deep throws but Minshew is the Aaron Rogers not AOC. Getsey wants Minshew for sure. That means Raiders fans if your change your thinking to the Raiders OC Getsey get behind Minshew like me. "Just WIN BABY!" Al Davis. AOC not starting no matter what until Minshew not Getsey QB who cares about what other opinions there are it's Getsey call on Offense who the QB is to play. The defense look better today! The Offense look way better today! We Raiders are 2 and 2 baby!
Start AOC , Go Raiders !!!