The Simucube Active Pedals....worth the hype?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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So many people would love a clutch video @dave cam. Please release. I cant find any reviews and would love to know what heel toe feels like with active pedals.
Love your videos mate.
From Australia 🦘
Man fr I was about to comment something like this. It would be cool if u can feel the clutch engaged like in real life
‘You’ll never have to buy pedals again” next month: “announcing Simucube Ultimate Pedals 2!”
As an owner of the active pedal, passive throttle & baseplate, I can only agree with your comments Dave.
I've had them about 3mths & feel the brake pedal is the only necessary one to own, its incredible how consistent it is. The passive throttle is the best throttle I've ever had also. Previously had Sprints, V3's & Invictas.
My iRating has gone from a constant 2.2-2.3k to now being over 2.6/7 & feel i can improve more.
Yes they are a lot of money, but for me & the enjoyment level, worth every penny.
Great video as always Dave
Exact same setup and exact same feelings. Agree 100%! If you have the means they are the best thing going.
Me too. Have 1 x active pedal and the passive throttle. I am improving constantly thanks to them, enjoy them immensely and subjectively for me they are worth it. I would not expect that to be the case for everybody and I am sure I get regularly beaten by people with less complex rigs and more talent than I will ever have.
@@Nikki_Tr that's the thing, it's not about how others feel, it's about what you get out of them. Yes the price seems crazy, yes we get beat by people on lower end gear, but as long as we are having fun & getting value from them, happy days.
@liamconway3965 I have the fanatec V3's and hate them as the 90KG V3 brake is too soft so I struggle with modulation. Did you see much difference in sprints vs the V3's? I was looking at Ultimate's if I decide an AP is just to much for a controller. I also expect other's will come to market soon and pricing should come down.
@@RK-ql8ue I had the V3's for nearly 4 years before I upgraded to the Active pedals and like you I really struggled with modulating the brakes and trail braking. I went through about 6 months of debating whether to buy the Asetek's or the Ultimates.
Dave and Dan Suzuki make the most important point of all which is the ease of adjustment hence there is no penalty for trying different settings - it doesn't require an hour on your hands and knee's changing elastomers or dampers. Only now am I starting to discover how poor my braking really is given the active pedal is completely predictable. For what little it is probably worth if you can afford a single active pedal and passive throttle you won't regret it.
The other point of note is that you don't have to worry about not 'getting on' with them because you can make it feel however you want it to be. I have found I need about 60-70kg of force to get to the threshold point but with quite a long travel which would be almost impossible to setup up mechanically on another set of pedals.
In the end I booked a test session at Demon Tweeks and tried them out - after that it was only a question of persuading my debit card to go in the machine!
Really nice review on the pedals, Dave. You’re so right about how powerful they are.
You can also set up your left pedal as a brake and have the middle one drop all the way back out of the way for 2-pedal car profiles and pop over to a hand clutch.
If I could actually afford active pedals, this would actually be a huge incentive to buy them 😂
I’ve wondered about how the active pedals would work in this context bc I hate left foot braking on a middle pedal but I want to go drifting sometimes
This was an excellent review, showed really well the use cases. I think they are the future ultimately. The feedback will improve and the functions will too. There's something to be said about active throttle and clutch if you like driving around on a wide variety of cars and if your sim could talk to the pedals to reproduce their feel. I also feel like we're gonna see these in real cars, to simulate more feel as we move to electric cars and drive by wire controls...
"can make it feel like my Peugot 3008 brakes"
instant buy.
I'm getting close to the divorce threshold 🤣🤣. Just got the simucube wheelbase and already salivating for this.
Dave you gotta stop under selling yourself, your better at reviews then those who claim to be reviewers. I’d rather have your input then those muppets. (Their not muppets I shouldn’t be rude)
That's very kind of you to say 🙏
It’s also worth adding that they are stupidly precise - It can consistently measure the weight of the tip of my sock down to individual grams, as opposed to other Load Cells which can differ with several kg’s in LC output.
Good point you mentioned about using just one brake unit matched with other brand clutch and throttle. Thanks for that!
Got an active pedal at microcenter open box brand new for $1350 god bless America!
It’s also an amazing device! I paired it with the passive throttle. The ability to adjust on the fly with software is amazing.
Micro Center rules
looking forward to moza mBooster Active Pedals review and hopefully a comparison
The thing I like best is your sense of fairness. You're always fair in racing and you're fair when you review the product. You always say you got it for free and that they have no input.
Thanks for the video and explaining the settings on the pedals. I just ordered up an active pedal, throttle and baseplate while they are having a 10% off sale. Looking forward to setting them up on my rig. Hoping I don’t have to change things around too much. 😀
Hey Dave, great video - and I totally agree with your synthesis to these pedals.
I personnaly came from Fanatecs V3 via VRS to the active Pedal set. I completely made the same experience as you did - concerning consistency, feel of the car etc.
Yes indeed the're really expensive and I waited 2 years before I've bought them, BUT I will never ever get back to any other set.
Cheers from Germany
Best review of this pedal so far. Detailing how beneficial it is to have various brake profiles for different cars and how it’s impacted, positively, your racing is what I was hoping to hear. Thank you for the review Dave! I hope Simucube lets you keep at least one of the active pedals for your marketing work for them. I’d like to make the jump but $3k usd for one AP, throttle, and base is very steep. I might have to spend a bit more time looking at the the GitHub project where you can build an AP for well under 50% the price.
Appreciate that mate, thank you
Thank you Dave. I appreciate your take on the pedals and your straightforward breakdown. I will prepare my finances accordingly lol.
Simucube needs to set up an affiliate link for your channel at some point here as I prefer to support your enterprise. Hopefully that is coming. I am not in a big rush but will apparently be upgrading my Invictas at some point. Was waiting for you to seal the deal.
I need all the help I can get with braking consistency so.... best start saving. Thanks Mr DC 👍🏾 for you honest opinion 👍🏾 👌🏾
Amazing pedals. Bought them 2 months ago, it is so satisfying.
@davecamm Your review of the Sim-Lab pedals persuaded me to to go that route Dave, but unless the cost of these becomes far more realistic there is not a chance in hell I'll be doing the same again by taking your recommendation, I'll never be lucky enough to give these a go...Just one pedal alone is nearly the same as my entire investment in all my kit, seems absolute madness no matter how good they are. Nice review though as usual, if you could just re-do the ending to make the rest of us feel better that would be great 😉
Simply attach simagic haptics on your pedals.
Check the Open Source Active Pedal, I have that and is not far away from the Simucube for about 1/10 of the price ... you just need to be good with DIY and not afraid of getting your hands dirty.
Amazing project that was inspired by the Simucube Active Pedals without any copyright problems.
I think you're the first I've seen that does custom curves like this. It's the first time these pedals really made sense as far as customizing the brakes in specific ways. This seems like the only system that does a really nice "two stage" braking feel. I've had asetek Invicta pedals that never felt like a two stage, now I have simagic p1000 hydraulic pedals that feel smooth but not like a two stage setup. These you can really customize as needed.
Can you tell us about the new Sabelt seat and the padding on it Dave? Looks nice!
Yes they are worth the hype all day long
I look forward to this product category to become more reasonably priced over the next few years
Great video Dave!
Excellent review as always Dave. Thats the Mrs new Kitchen on the back burner. Need these for the winter months 😝
Nice summary, Dave. To be honest I’m still happy with my Sprints! That said, the brake pedal paired with my throttle would be very nice. I’ll tell the missus it was 900 quid 😂
Another great video Dave. Honest as usual. The fact you can make the pedal feel how you want is the biggest draw for me as most sim pedals are not that realistic
Super useful settings. Thanks!
This has got me wondering if i should be setting up profiles for my own pedals for different cars!
What seems like the ideal customer: A pro e-sports driver looking for every bit of potential advantage. Or someone with very deep pockets, drives a wide variety of cars, and wants the best of everything.
I love how Dave deals with all his Troll bots wishing they all had the percs or at the very least access to all Dave does LMFAO good stuff Dave
As always we get the things we need to know. Thanks Dave! The price is unreal tho. Currently im on vx pro’s and they are amazing! Maybe some day ill get one active… And may i say i love your socks 🍺 cheers Dave 😀😀
The VX Pros are superb 👌
Great stuff as always Dave
Did i skip the part, where you tell us about the benefit of feeling the ABS/TC?
You’re a sim racer that does reviews. You were on the Asetek bandwagon, you and Boosted media about a year ago 🤔 You’ve done plenty of reviews , own it 😎
Nope, I disagree 😁
@@davecamyt you can’t bs a bullshiter… ☺️
Are you open to sharing your profiles?
@@RacingWithChuck27So you’re a bullshitter. Got it.
Hahaha😂😂❤❤ its sooooo goood
I honestly want to try it but I can’t justify that price. If they were 1500 I may think about it.
Yeah. The markup on these pedals is insane.
@@dauntae24 yeah but I think this could pave the way for cheaper ones in the future. similar to DD wheelbases over the years
I think so too@@nuztuz903
Ima get SimuCube active brak pedal + passive throttle, and then one Moza active clutch.
Ain't that perfect or?
Been waiting for this my man. Not that my skill level could justify it but a man can dream dammit
Just bought two sets for my kids
Great review Dave, unfortunately my wife overheard it and gave me the “over my dead body” look😂
quickj question can u use only the passive throttle pedal?
How does the force feedback of the abs system feel when hitting the ABS in Iracing?
Do you set the brakes up so that you feel like they're the same across cars? For example, let's say you use an Indycar and a NASCAR Truck, which would have totally differely braking feels because they are totally different. Do you set it up so that the pressure inputs more or less match, or do you go with what you feel fits the car best? Or the third option, do you try to make it match what the car would most likely have?
My brakes feel pretty different for each car, although my GT3/GT4 are along the same lines 👍
Great thoughts Dave! I have 2 AP and won my first race in iRacing after having these for 5 months. Will you ever share your profiles?
yes I'll happily share my profiles. Just need to figure out how 😁
Hey guys, for anyone who is reading this. Could anyone help me with simulating the same ffb throught the simagic p-hpr for the brake pedal that dave has on his simucube pedals as 'brake treshold vibration'? I can't deem to set it up properly to use for the porsche cup car.. and it feeld odd... Like it doesn't react properly... And i want to find a way for it..
Thanks in advance anyone :)))
Dave, I’m on the verge of ordering the brake and the gas. I want to know if I can setup a convincing clutch bite. Is this possible? For instance in my C230 the clutch is light and long with minimal force. Great commuter peddle. But in my 1990 Porsche it’s a much heavier hydraulic pedal with a very pronounced resistance then boom, it gives. I’ve been searching for that feeling in my sims for 18 years. Will this finally do that? Thanks.
Yep, you can setup curves, travel, resistance quite easily 😁
@@davecamyt 😮 sold!
Thanks
Hi Dave great review just have a one question can you change the brake pedal profile in sim when in a test to help setup for best prefromance.
Yes, all done on the fly 👍
I always had this question about the pedals.. Can you feel the clutch bite with the feedback?
come to see for curiosity some pedals i can't afford, but finished to ask if in future there will be an "opinion" about that seat when it's ready. I'm pretty interested since according to Sabelt specs, it's larger than any XL racing seat (tall guy here) and sponsored as more comfy on gaming session.
Yes I'll be doing a video. Early impressions are very good 👍
I’m a Simucube2 fanboy, love my base. With these pedals The rumble on the pcup or any other car that you can add this is a “cheat” imo. I’m basing this on what you get in real life. Cars with abs yes, you’ll feel a small rumble in the pedal. I’m old enough to have been around when abs came to road cars. I worked for Cadillac and they used Bosch in the first abs. They pumped back so hard that you thought It was going to break your leg lol. This is a great product but it’s not for sim racing if you can produce “cheats” and cheats as I mentioned above if they’re not what your feeling in the Pcup or other cars without abs.
So the rumble motors on Fanatec pedals are "cheating" too? Is this a case of "if I can't afford it, it's cheating?
@@Stroker-Z28I think he’s saying because they vibrate mimicking abs in cars that don’t have abs…nothing to do with the price, no reason to be a dick
Hi Dave I’ve owned mine for months now, but I’d like to try your different setups for the cars you’re driving. Would you be happy to share them please for me and others to try ?
Absolutely. I just need to figure out how 😁
The price is laughably outrageous no matter how much money you have. I also would like to see them in 3 years time. They work via a screw, akin to a car jack, that's not going be smooth for long. Did Boosted not already report a graininess from brand new?
With that mechanism I can't see how it wouldn't be 'grainy' without power. Expensive yes, amazing yes, for everyone? No
@@davecamyt what I find surprising.. back in the day gp2, gp legends, the software was streets ahead of the hardware. The reverse seems to have happened, eventually the hardware has caught up. But the software is now somehow struggling, LMU for eg, with RF2 backbone and with an online competition system. One would think this would be a winner, life is tough in a very small pond of fish. With gritted teeth, IRacing has the monopoly, and it pains me to say it, feels good to drive.
As someone who currently has Heusinkveld Ultimate+ pedals, is this going to feel as a significant update over that? I am considering replacing my Brake and Throttle pedals with an active pedal.
Like I mentioned in the video, if you're a set and forget type of sim racer, probably not. But, if you'd like quick and easy changes, super smooth pedals then yes 😁
@@davecamyt I know, it would probably be a nice upgrade and I am in the lucky position to be able to spend quite some money on my sim rig. I just need to decide if the next upgrade will be a set of active pedals or a D-Box gen 5 system. :)
Thansk Dave, is there a way to downlaod your profile? its difficult to replicate exactly and would like to give it a go
I'll figure out how to share it 👍
Thank you 😊😊
Thanks for sharing your exp with the simucube pedals! 🫡
Priced from '€2.099,00 - €6.449,00', hell fucking no..
Sold! 👍🏼👍🏼
When you said you'd buy one pedal, I thought Julie was gonna slap you over the head... LOL.
I made sure she was out of earshot, don't worry 😁
I feel a purchase coming on
what hype ? these things cost 2,5k each ................
Excellent video Dave. Many thanks for making it. Quick question please: Which brake pedal are you most closely (if not exactly) simulating with the active pedal? And before you got the active pedals, were those you're trying to mimic, your favorite brake pedals? Many thanks!
It's a bit of a hybrid of all my pedals tbh. Not one specifically 😁
@@davecamyt ah, ok. Interesting. Can I ask you which of all the non active pedals you’ve tried over the years are your favourite pedals then? Many thanks again!
Hi Dave, and thanks for all your great content;-)
what do you think of your yellow Sabelt seat? good or bad?😊
It's great so far 😁
are the pedal vibration effects able to take telemetry from the game or are they just static effects?
It's from the sim 👍
Ive attached simagic haptics to my sprints. Its just as good.
"Shut up and take my money" 😂
Those look amazing, and the video was great. However they are a pipe dream... I'm stuck in PC upgrade land..LOL
Unfortunately I can't make any upgrades on my setup until I upgrade my rig 😢. I have a GT Omega with a tube frame, not the aluminum rigs that can be customized with nice pedals. I have the $ for the pedals. Just not the rig
Dave can you share you profiles somewhere? Would love to mimic your settings.
Absolutely. Next time I'm on the rig I'll look into how to do it 👍
Did you have a chance to be on the rig? :D also interested to use them :)
I was interested in getting them until I realized you can buy I used car instead of those pedals…. Holy moly they are expensive!
I see those active pedals as a novelty, nothing more, nothing less.
I find mine, one of, if not the very best addition to my racing enjoyment.
That little vibration before lock up is the cheating I need Dave 😅 no money so on wishlist. I’m going to mess with my P1000s & see what I can do
I'm not knocking anyone, if people are that competitive I get it. But for me there's something that just annoys me about people doing stuff like this. It's turning a sim that's supposed to feel like a real car and making it a physical algorithm instead of just getting better at a skill. If I did the 80% brake cheat I'd hate myself every time my foot used the brake pedal. Then again I'm not on iRacing and I don't race competitively, so I also don't care if I lock up my brakes and it's my fault.
@@Hardcaslte Pretty sure that people have been doing this same cheat with bass shakers etc.
I never limit my brake pressure.
@sp33dou this is different. I'm not referring to getting a vibration when the tires lock up, that's actually realistic. I'm referring to people limiting brake pedal travel to 80% so it's not possible to lock the brakes.
Re reading the comment (since it's been a little while since I've seen the video), this to me is "cheating" too if you use a vibration that comes on at 80%. If you're replicating actual tire lock up, that's normal, if you have a sensor shaking your body that you hit 80% brake pressure, that's kind of cheesing it in my book.
@@Hardcaslte I aggree that both of those are cheatin and shouldn't be happening. Probably most of the top tier players are cheating in one way or another. Sim racing just isn't what it was before...
Until iRacing can feed them real time ABS info they are an expensive set of paper weights for most of us.
Hey Dave any chance you can share some of these profile's particulary your pcup one cheers
If I can figure out how 😁
@davecamm think you can share in the paddock in the software. Would love to try your settings I've been using dan morad gt3 profile but I suck so bad with pcup this may help a bit 😁 feel free to email me direct if you can't work it out much appreciated
lmao the price
That price 😁, a 2500€ bargain for 1 active pedal
Watching this as if I could ever afford haha
Not with moza coming out with their active pedals and likely 90% of the feel with a 1/3 of the price.
Hopefully that's the case. It'll be great for everyone 👍
@@davecamyt I agree. I know it wont be as good as Simucubes. But if its close, and much less money then its a win. We will see.
$2k per pedal!?! Heck no!
It’s all about shaking…anyway I’ll stay with my HV Sprints 😅 I can dig in the profiles too, maybe not so easy way like with SC but I still love my wife and I don’t want any divorce 😜… for the moment 😎
Nobody of the simracer did it better !
But the Cost !!!! Simply can't afford it
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Crying in Simgrade Vx Pro...
Most people the price for the complete pedal set alone equals almost what they have invested in their entire rig including the computer tower and monitors.
At what point does one say enough is enough as far as driving their pretend car around the pretend track and admitting at the end of the day this is nothing really but a game?
Please say they are not worth considering 😂
My wife is going to be so upset
For that money I can buy good used car with all the systems including airconditioner.
And then go make that car track ready and run it on a race track....
If only SimuCUBE can get that price down. I like sim racing but not $3400aud likes for one blasted pedal?! For that price, they need to improve your lap times consistently by 1 secs+ per hot lap. Don't want to sell a kidney on the black market to get one.
If your kidney's are in good health you can probably get a two pedal set
So as always money buys you time and adventage. No money for fancy abs? Just invest huge amount of time to learn and adapt to your cheap pedals!
*crying while looking at wallet* thats me
it would probably be easier to buy a Porsche 911 RS and drive it on the race track ... 😂😂✌
🤡
My rig comes close to 25K but that is still less then the operational cost for running a real 911 GT3 car (and then of course you need 200 to 300K for the initial purpose of the car :))
I guess that's why I stick to sim racing
@@JJCAMulders it was a joke ;-)