Doom II - MAP20: Gotcha! (Nightmare! 100% Secrets + Items)

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  • @arpy4428
    @arpy4428 Год назад +253

    As a kid it blew my mind seeing the Cyber Demon and Spider Mastermind fight each other for the first time, kid me went wild with headcannon about the demonic factions and the tech/zombie factions having a rift in their cooperated effort to take over earth

    • @TivonSanders
      @TivonSanders Год назад +35

      That sounds more exciting than the standard cannon. LOL

  • @mowerds33
    @mowerds33 Год назад +46

    decino: "This map has all the weapons."
    The Chainsaw: "You're dead to me."

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Год назад +7

      I actually have a Mac 130 which is the chainsaw id modeled the weapon after. I still think the game chainsaw is worthless though. My chainsaw is older than Doom is. Still runs too. I paid $89.95 for that saw.

    • @TreeAgon
      @TreeAgon Год назад +2

      @@1pcfred that’s so cool!

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Год назад +1

      @@TreeAgon it is pretty funny. I know I chuckle a bit every time I see the Doom sprite. The yellow color and the black brake are very distinctive features of that saw. The saw in Doom is a Mac 130. I still use my saw but I'm really due for a new one. I've definitely tackled trees with it above it's weight class.

    • @TreeAgon
      @TreeAgon Год назад

      @@1pcfred for the longest time I always thought they made the doom weapon sprites handmade. How wrong I was.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Год назад +1

      @@TreeAgon They made the game assets any way they could. They actually made physical models of some of the monsters. Weapons they used images they could get ahold of. The BFG 9000 is based off a toy. But then I think they doctored everything up in editing. So there's certainly hand work going on.

  • @СергейМисюк-ж1к
    @СергейМисюк-ж1к Год назад +64

    I think, demons sure run some sort of bookmaking business on this map. Two big badasses beating the living heck out of each others, while others watch, make bets and drink health bonuses.

  • @YeenMage
    @YeenMage Год назад +126

    Sgt. Mark IV made a very good interpretation of Gotcha in his level "Eye of the Storm". Because it is the spot closest to the demon portal in the end, this part of the city is being transformed into a hellish landscape faster than the rest of the earth. Yeah, he imagined the bloody and lava pits across streets as the city streets literally cracking open due to hell's influence, and explaining the abstract nature of this place as apartment blocks and offices suffering their final transformation. He even gave a sweet interpretation that the place where the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind is infighting as a badly-damaged shopping mall.

    • @dryued6874
      @dryued6874 Год назад +5

      Is it a part of a level pack, or is it standalone?

    • @СергейМисюк-ж1к
      @СергейМисюк-ж1к Год назад +5

      Oh, I remember this level. Urban part of EDay is my favourite.

    • @tenhundredkills
      @tenhundredkills 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@dryued6874 I know this is a old comment, but in case you're still wondering: It's in the Doom II Hell on Earth Starter Pack. It's a Brutal Doom level pack.

  • @rankoinazuma6788
    @rankoinazuma6788 Год назад +18

    *ring ring* Announcer: The following contest is scheduled for one death, and it's your main event of the night!
    *crowd erupts in cheers*
    Announcer: Introducing first, on my left, from the inner parts of the Tower of Babel, the rocketing monolith, the Cyberdemon!
    *crowd cheers*
    Announcer: to my right, from the depths of Dis, the mind behind the Earth invasion, the thickest spider momma, the Spider Mastermind!
    *crowds cheers again*

  • @BigMacDavis
    @BigMacDavis Год назад +19

    I've had excellent RNG one time and the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind killed each other at the same time. Nice run, decino, see you in Nirvana, where it does not smell like teen spirit.

    • @iguana9173
      @iguana9173 Год назад +2

      Lol I see what you did.

    • @nikkingman
      @nikkingman 11 месяцев назад

      go away furry

  • @negative_joy
    @negative_joy Год назад +22

    The layout of this map is almost dreamlike. I'm in a castle! I'm in a cave! I'm in a weird metal factory thing! Now I'm in another cave! Now the factory is in the cave with me!

  • @TheKalZul
    @TheKalZul Год назад +46

    I think it's terrorformed (geddit?) area of Earth since this structure is where the invasion is originating from as per the episode text. Makes sense to have the two leaders of the original invasion standing guard over the portal.

  • @SickBoyOC
    @SickBoyOC Год назад +12

    I had the cyberdemon and spidermastermind kill each other at the same time before. It was one of the greatest things I ever witnessed in DOOM

  • @JangianTV
    @JangianTV Год назад +66

    This level's progression is very peculiar indeed.

  • @fallingmasonry
    @fallingmasonry Год назад +3

    Love the enthusiasm at 6:04!

  • @empresscarrie6230
    @empresscarrie6230 Год назад +1

    1:31 decino chan: UWAAAH! ~~~

  • @lankymaccrazyhair264
    @lankymaccrazyhair264 Год назад +1

    Man, it took me like a dozen attempts to beat this map in UV, and i wasn't even going for 100%. You make this game look easy, my man!

  • @TivonSanders
    @TivonSanders Год назад +1

    1:21 I've played Doom 2 pretty much all my life, and did not know that secret was there. Wow.

  • @tormuse2916
    @tormuse2916 Год назад

    1:20 Huh... I've played this level dozens of times over the decades and never knew about that secret. You learn something new every day. :)

  • @travishaselden
    @travishaselden Год назад +8

    Happy April Fools Eve, Pumpkin Man!

  • @AlexeiVoronin
    @AlexeiVoronin Год назад +41

    One of my favorite levels - as a kid, I loved jsut going around it with the "no monsters" option - not so much because I was scared of them, but rather beause our PC at the time was a potato with 4 MB of RAM and the game tended to crash from time to time when played with monsters.
    I remember I really liked the tower near the start, the beating heart on the green pedestal, and the exit portal too - felt like jumping into the sky! I didn't even imagine the engine was capable of such things.

    • @linusgustafsson2629
      @linusgustafsson2629 Год назад +8

      I liked it to as a kid. Though I usually played co-op and the level then featured double cyberdemons for a nice fun rocket dodge fiesta.

  • @ihaveaweirdnotsolonguserna5270
    @ihaveaweirdnotsolonguserna5270 Год назад +1

    Plain relaxation, just keyboard sounds and the pumpkin man's peaceful voice

  • @Quillyik
    @Quillyik Год назад +1

    Spider v cyber fight was such a spectacle as a kid. The sheer panic of walking in there and seeing both appear.

  • @RevenantFTS97
    @RevenantFTS97 Год назад

    To think that a month ago the Pumpkin man was dealing with Doom 1's E4M2, and now he is about to beat DOOM 2! Incredible progress!
    Thanks very much decino for showing us that epic battle at 3:06! Not surprised the Cyberdemon won! Back in 2020, I was playing Doom 2 with fast monsters, single segment and no pistol start, this map took me many attempts. Whenever I got into this room, Cyberdemon always beat the shit out of the Spiderdemon.
    Anyway, impressive playthrough! And the sillyness at the intermission screen is totally welcome and a nice touch as well!

  • @DoomGuy512
    @DoomGuy512 Год назад +16

    This man is the real Doomguy on RUclips! Great Videos Mate ! Rip And Tear !

  • @MuTheSlime
    @MuTheSlime Год назад +2

    I'd say it's a pillar of demon mineral that came into existence early on, and was excavated to investigate its composition. so a pillar with tunneling and rudimentary elevators carved in later as researches bore through the thing, eventually discovering the demon teleporter inside. It's also in a pool of lava, so there's an argument to be made for it being a sorta... Demon Monolith that shot up out of the earth from some sort of hell fissure.

  • @ViscusLupus
    @ViscusLupus Год назад +4

    3:42 another great solo in doom2 ost, surprisingly funky!

  • @StoneHill777
    @StoneHill777 Год назад +6

    Great run, the way you said gotcha at the beginning was indeed funny.

  • @OniMurasame
    @OniMurasame Год назад +7

    I love all your videos. Especially the ones that talk code.
    I sometimes watch them several times. Thanks for great content my man!

  • @JangianTV
    @JangianTV Год назад +9

    Decino's all time favourite level next! 😈😈

  • @TKWAZTX
    @TKWAZTX Год назад +1

    I love these gameplays a lot, since the first game I have been aware of each one when I get from college.
    Keep up with the great content and quality of your videos, Decino.

  • @Chozo_Ghost
    @Chozo_Ghost Год назад +1

    decino at 6:11: Ha-ha, hoo-hoo, hee-hee
    YT auto-captions: [Music]

  • @Nob1ej0n
    @Nob1ej0n Год назад +11

    Something feels very wrong about respawning archies. Also, you made this map look a lot easier than I expected.

  • @Olek54321
    @Olek54321 Год назад +1

    That was quick :D
    1:20 father John Romero created that hahaha
    in my opinion this is one of the most iconic Doom2 maps, because of that fight between cyberdemon and spidermama. I think Cyberdemon wins most of the time :D
    Love the soundtrack in this map, it's awesome

  • @subnormality.
    @subnormality. Год назад +4

    Wow, the chaingunner tanking that rocket at the end there. He died a hero.

  • @doomrevolver8387
    @doomrevolver8387 Год назад +1

    1:08 mother nature obviously

  • @brandonschwertley2723
    @brandonschwertley2723 Год назад +1

    Cyber Demon and Spider Mastermind fight finishes
    My inner child: AGAIN!!!

  • @nathansyoutubeaccount
    @nathansyoutubeaccount Год назад +6

    I think the stone buildings could be hell outcroppings but don't discount that the lifts could simply be representative of climbing up a hill or boulder. Like a quick vertical climb plus accommodating the gameplay first and foremost.

  • @SkullKingofCarpathia
    @SkullKingofCarpathia Год назад +3

    Nice to see that Gotcha didn't get you. As for the natural/vs demon made/vs human made, I think it's human made, but corrupted by demons as the text reads,
    "You are at the corrupt heart of the city, surrounded by the corpses of your enemies. You see no way to destroy the creatures' entryway through this side, so you clench your teeth and plunge through it.
    There must be a way to close it on the other side. What do you care if you've got to go through Hell to get to it?"

  • @DeltaV287
    @DeltaV287 Год назад +1

    I always felt that the Spider Mastermind got gypped on this map because they're kept separated. If they can get closer together, the Spider wins a lot more often.

  • @Geniraul
    @Geniraul Год назад +1

    This map is legendary. Still one of the most iconic maps, it never gets old!

  • @victoriouswinner7745
    @victoriouswinner7745 Год назад +4

    THIS SONG FIRE!!! WE GETTING OUT THE DOOM WIT DIS ONE!!! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @shopo6847
    @shopo6847 Год назад +11

    This map is iconic.
    Good and original design.
    Challenging but doable.
    Good atmosphere.
    Epic battle: Spider Mastermind vs Cyber Demon
    Amazing music (message for the archvile)

  • @devorezz
    @devorezz Год назад +1

    The music for this map is weird. It sounds so gloomy at first and then suddenly a guitar riff. I love it.

  • @georgeheilman885
    @georgeheilman885 Год назад +2

    I presumed the majority of the buildings were either made by the demons, as they are next to their entryway, or if they did exist before, were reshaped to fit Hell's aesthetics.
    One of the best looking of the city levels, especially for exploration.

  • @EnemyAce88
    @EnemyAce88 Год назад

    This level is just so cool.
    To answer your question, I think the tower and everything else here was built by humans, but then the demons came and took it over. This level is the outpost between the human world and Hell.
    The only drawback to your playthrough is that there are some areas of this map that you don't need to explore.

  • @adinocc2042
    @adinocc2042 Год назад

    Thanks for making my day, Decino!
    Keep up the good work!

  • @thalligator016
    @thalligator016 Год назад +3

    Wow, didn't even know that gotcha is a Romero map. And it actually has a SSG! My mind has been blown

  • @chriswaudby1084
    @chriswaudby1084 Год назад +6

    Excellent great map this one I'm happy to say ch as always👌

  • @jnechaevskaya
    @jnechaevskaya Год назад +2

    Thank you, decino! Amazing to watch, just as always! 🤟

  • @iguana9173
    @iguana9173 Год назад +12

    2:54 I didn’t know that door opened from that side I thought it was always locked until you hit the switch next to the spider mastermind. I’m excited for the next level I don’t think it’s that stinky you handled playing it the last time on the recreated from memory version. At least we’ll get to see the Hungarian flag 🇭🇺 room properly. There is 3 soul spheres 1 megasphere and 2 mega armors in this level.

  • @eduardodiaz9942
    @eduardodiaz9942 Год назад +1

    You ought to put Guile's theme while the Cyberdemon and the Spidermama fight. As we alll know, Guile's theme goes with everything.

  • @fellow_doomer
    @fellow_doomer Год назад +13

    this map really did get me!

  • @cheesyweezy866
    @cheesyweezy866 Год назад

    that "gotcha!" at the beginning was just the cutest thing

  • @popenderaza
    @popenderaza Год назад

    Looking forward to watch decino playing his most favourite map in doom.

  • @ardag1439
    @ardag1439 Год назад +3

    1:54 Was that a double inhale? First time I've seen anybody use that tactic.

  • @Moleoflands
    @Moleoflands Год назад

    @5:50 Probably would have lived, but the chaingunner so nearly got you to face rocket with that respawn lol

  • @OldMovieRob
    @OldMovieRob Год назад

    I used to love watching the Cyber/Spider monster showdown. I can't imagine doing this level on Nightmare where they could regenerate again!

  • @lhfirex
    @lhfirex Год назад +1

    Gotcha! is one of those levels even a casual player who's only finished Doom 2 once should remember.

  • @brandonbailey7686
    @brandonbailey7686 Год назад +3

    I'm looking forward seeing you play map 22 that's going to be a challenge with the chain gunners

  • @CaveyMoth
    @CaveyMoth Год назад

    I don't know if I've ever heard decino so excited before!

  • @avvn9331
    @avvn9331 Год назад +1

    MIDI is nice this looks like a watch tower or outpost in the start, cool map

  • @lukebehrendsbro.
    @lukebehrendsbro. Год назад +7

    Gotcha! This map was awesome! Nightmare Mode could be in pain, but thankfully SuperCharge & MegaArmors & MegaSpheres oh my's! 😮Almost done with this game I say. Can't wait for next video. 😄

  • @Nuclearstomp
    @Nuclearstomp Год назад

    Nirvana more like uh uh umm uh Nightmarevana!
    I got nothing. By the way, props for showing the cyberdemon and spider-mastermind fight lol. Always fun.

  • @jonbourgoin182
    @jonbourgoin182 Год назад +1

    "ha ha, hoohoo, hee hee"
    - *Decino, 2023*

  • @Gencoil
    @Gencoil Год назад

    "I'm not sure what this building is supposed to be", the majority of classic Doom level designs in a nutshell.
    If I had to guess, this is some kind of industrial facility that was fused with a demon fortress. That little cave structure you were talking about might be a watch tower.

  • @jrock718
    @jrock718 Год назад

    Nice run pumpkin man

  • @1pcfred
    @1pcfred Год назад

    Gotcha! "It's got everything. " --decino

  • @HuxleysShaggyDog
    @HuxleysShaggyDog Год назад

    I woke up feeling exhausted. Barely wanted to leave bed. Did it anyway.
    NIGHTMARE GOTCHA!

  • @Batakanta
    @Batakanta Год назад +9

    "They can go fight again... actually no" - Good Ending

  • @ridethelapras
    @ridethelapras Год назад

    3:45 Those are some bitchin' guitar licks!

  • @xMrGreeneJeansx
    @xMrGreeneJeansx Год назад +1

    It was this level that clued me in on my first playthrough that the final boss was definitely not a cyber/mastermind.
    I'm curious though how often the mastermind wins against the cyber without fast monsters. Seems like it's about 50/50.

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 Год назад

    Hellish reality warping really made this map, a lot of us can tell.
    Whatta buncha Arch-Viles. Thank heavens you gave them a fair amount of "messages".
    3:00: Pshaw! Doom is as anime as Avatar: The Last Airbender... or maybe I should pick the Fleischer Superman theatrical shorts.
    The plot has returned for this:
    *"You are at the corrupt heart of the city, surrounded by the corpses of your enemies. You see no way to destroy the creatures' entryway on this side, so you clench your teeth and punch through it.*
    *There must be a way to close it on the other side. What do you care if you've got to go through Hell to get to it?"*

  • @proosee
    @proosee Год назад +1

    It's a "stock" map although, it is so quirky and innovative, I love it

  • @TheBrutalDoomer
    @TheBrutalDoomer Год назад +2

    I just thought of it now - resurrection by arch-vile and by timer should be mutually exclusive - every tick one always goes before the other, so resurrecting the same monster twice or crashing the game is impossible. I mean, it should be 😅

  • @Skelly57
    @Skelly57 Год назад

    Nirvana being tomorrow is perfect, the ultimate April Fool's prank: having fun on that map lmao

  • @vinamratarnekar1698
    @vinamratarnekar1698 Год назад

    Oh man your voice is sick. I can understand your problem. I am also in the same condition from a week.🤧

  • @Arlan64
    @Arlan64 Год назад +2

    It would have been even funnier if you had projected yourself shooting a rocket at the wall to fall into the hole and finish the level, I don't know if you had already done it once in the first Doom but in any case I personally love this map ^^

  • @superstev1790
    @superstev1790 Год назад

    The battle of the ages is here!

  • @Lagoonatic8T88
    @Lagoonatic8T88 Год назад +1

    I've been playing this on Nightmare as you upload each level and I look forward to Nirvana. I could not ever get past the stupid room with the imps surrounding you and lowering walls. I HATE IT

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Год назад +1

      There's no shame in running away to fight another day.

    • @tornado100able
      @tornado100able Год назад +1

      Are you also collecting 100% of the itens and secrets?!

    • @Lagoonatic8T88
      @Lagoonatic8T88 Год назад

      @@tornado100able absolutely! But there aren't hardly any tough items before the imp room 😅

  • @reptongeek
    @reptongeek Год назад

    I always cheer the Spider Mastermind personally. Support the Underdog!! Sometimes she does win

  • @estefencosta1835
    @estefencosta1835 Год назад

    This map has the strangest and most obscure switches/secrets in Doom2 IMO.

  • @aquepaique
    @aquepaique Год назад +1

    The first Doom 2 lava level yeeeee

  • @rayft1422
    @rayft1422 Год назад

    Nicely done. Just completed this on UV with fast monsters.. Though no matter how many times I tried I could not get the Mastermind and the CyberDemon to in-fight.. Have I missed something ? And I do love how you state "easy peasy map" on Nightmare ... LMAO maybe for you !! Again cheers for the video !

    • @decino
      @decino  Год назад +1

      What source port are you using? You're not shooting at the Spider or Cyber before they get to infight do you?

    • @rayft1422
      @rayft1422 Год назад

      @@decino Hi and thanks for your reply. It is a little strange. I am playing PRBoom+ with default compatibility. I have had them both infighting before when playing without fast monsters enabled… I did not shot either of them, but they both seem intent on killing me only :) Dodging rockets while the mastermind was shooting the cyber demon in the back tring to get me .. I had wondered if fast monsters enabled would have made a difference ? I will try again with out FAST to see if it behaves once I get home. Again thanks for replying.. Oh and thanks for showing me the shootable Pink wall again, I had forgot and was wondering how to get the BFG..
      Edit: done a iddqd and stood for a while taking hits with fast and "eventually" they did started infighting... he took quite some damage first.. So it seems that I could not last long enough for the mastermind to inflick enough damage 🤭 Thanks Decino and I look forward to your next adventure !!

    • @decino
      @decino  Год назад +1

      Oh, PrBoom's default comp setting is really funky and shouldn't be used. Stick to Doom II's complevel.

    • @rayft1422
      @rayft1422 Год назад

      @@decino Ah... Thank you ! laughingly I do remember seeing your comp level video in my feed a little while ago. Skipped it as I thought it was all working OK.. Think I will watch that one next.. 😆 Awesome !

  • @eldandraken4850
    @eldandraken4850 Год назад

    This map makes my head go hurt. I don't know why i cant wrap my head around it

  • @gothicsage955
    @gothicsage955 Год назад

    This was my favorite level as a kid on uv

  • @Brentastrophe
    @Brentastrophe Год назад +1

    Hell elevator apartments is what i assume that building in the lava is

  • @TheDgmccool
    @TheDgmccool Год назад

    This was intense

  • @dotcomgamingd5564
    @dotcomgamingd5564 Год назад

    Now that you mention it, the structure could be a place for mining

  • @RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera
    @RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera Год назад +1

    Good old gotcha this map is well known because of the final showdown of spidermomma versus cybersexyboi aka cyberBooty. Another then that is an average map in Ultra violence, of course on nightmare is pretty decent at least not as boring as last time. Also I'm quite excited the nightmare difficulty on the hellish levels which is going to be interesting to see how the difficult it is, although I see them as a kid but I haven't played those levels on nightmare in a while. I have to see them again to see what they will be like.

  • @TheRogueWolf
    @TheRogueWolf Год назад

    This level looks cool (and has an awesome infighting situation) but navigating it is a pain and a half.

  • @makhauser42
    @makhauser42 Год назад +2

    (possible) release of Nirvana on April 1 is the most ironic joke ever crafted by the fate. I found it hard, it's hard to find. Oh well, whatever, never mind
    P.S. That multi-level level lift structure is definitely not natural. Nature can't create such elevators, neither can demons. It might have been a rock before, deliberately crafted afterwards by humankind, like the one behind your starting point. Just the observation tower? A ball-buster if you are slow? The distraction of the real duel of this map (aka anxiety and the teleporter exit moving down to the hitscan heck)?

  • @thoumi96
    @thoumi96 Год назад

    TNT after doom 2 and the Big boy Plutonia! \m/

  • @xxsugarsparkxx
    @xxsugarsparkxx Год назад

    Nirvana and then Catacombs. Good luck marine.

  • @BorisAnatolievich
    @BorisAnatolievich Год назад

    1:10 TLDR it is cyberpunk-style human building mixed with fever dream of a subject.
    I'd like to interprete whole visual design of classic doom like a totally materialism-based Futuristic apocalyptical (i mean by any genesis possible, i'd like to leave this untold) landscape+building through the prism of mind of subject of our character (probably not of a great mind, simple, religious person from something like country side or criminal district, who joined army forces someday). In process of going through this realm subject (after seeing all the gore and apocalyptical changes of world) starts to suffer from mental dicease, including hallucinates. So this image is partially hallucinations, partially sci-fi earth apocalyptical nature, technology and urbanism which might be interpreted as biblical hell or Dante's hell... Why not. Those are just my fantasies

  • @lucamiddelbos7412
    @lucamiddelbos7412 Год назад

    Well gg, great anime battle. The cybery demani vs spideru masterumindus demani.

  • @mrbazooka6635
    @mrbazooka6635 Год назад +1

    My favorite map👍

  • @victoriqueMoe
    @victoriqueMoe Год назад

    oh boy, my fave map is next

  • @FrancisFjordCupola
    @FrancisFjordCupola Год назад

    Since that "cave" at the first minute in featured teleporters and we humans cannot make teleporters like that, it follows that it must have been either natural or aliens. And we know it's never aliens. Fermi paradox and all that. Therefore it must be natural, by process of elimination. Ask Sherlock. :P
    Gotcha! has always been a classic, if only because of Cybi vs Mastermind.

  • @mmoff3
    @mmoff3 Год назад

    Hello Decino hope you are having a good day :)

  • @IfNedWereHere
    @IfNedWereHere Год назад

    Near the end there the plasma shooting off center like my piss stream

  • @matheusrios4223
    @matheusrios4223 Год назад

    So there was an item in the arena where the cyberdemon and spider mastermind fight. I always forget this soulsphere exists. Next map, our hero will ascend to Nirvana as he falls into madness that is Heck in his journey to protect Earth from true Nightmare! Go Pumpkin Man :D

  • @britishexplorer4437
    @britishexplorer4437 Год назад

    Gotcha huh, I have never got to play this map.
    Maybe rome-ro's building habits are from too much inspiration from the city of Rome. Anyways nice vide

  • @universalperson
    @universalperson Год назад

    I'm going to agree with the commenters who say the rock thing is the result of Heck's influence corrupting the land.