Doom II - 25 Years Later: An LGR Retrospective

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  • Опубликовано: 23 янв 2025

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  • @Kei_0001
    @Kei_0001 5 лет назад +637

    It’s amazing how “aiming” vertically without really aiming becomes an instinct after a while. We just feel that the shot will go where we want and shoot.

    • @AlexeiVoronin
      @AlexeiVoronin 5 лет назад +11

      Practice makes perfect ;)

    • @jspantonio8807
      @jspantonio8807 5 лет назад +34

      yeah i always play doom for 1 or 2 hours , and then when i try to play an fps (doom 2016) it feels weird to aim up n down

    • @f67739
      @f67739 5 лет назад +29

      probably an in-game lore explanation for that. maybe doomguy is so highly trained he just vaguely points his gun at a certain angle and shoots knowing exactly where it will hit

    • @jspantonio8807
      @jspantonio8807 5 лет назад +6

      @@f67739 lmao maybe

    • @iceagepenguinrace9788
      @iceagepenguinrace9788 5 лет назад +11

      GZDoom has vertical aiming I play with that and it is way less restrictive then vanilla Doom.

  • @Burdman660
    @Burdman660 4 года назад +66

    The 90s were such a glorious gaming time. So many hours spent on Doom, Quake, Age of Empires 2, Diablo 2, Command and Conquer and countless wonderful console games.

    • @doejon9424
      @doejon9424 2 года назад +1

      Remember the cheesy "Delta Force" games haha. And then agent Kate Archer in "No One Lives Forever".. early 00's but still fresh out of the late 90's.

    • @richardfan7157
      @richardfan7157 Год назад +2

      Funnily enough, Sandy Peterson worked on Age of Empires after he left ID Software. Two top tier games of their genre.

  • @wesleybcrowen
    @wesleybcrowen 5 лет назад +957

    Only Doom II could pull off making up for the lack of new arsenal by introducing only one new gun that is one of the best guns in the history of everything.
    Oh, and cool new monsters helped too!

    • @NathanJennings1222
      @NathanJennings1222 5 лет назад +5

      Even when playing Doom II with the Project Brutality mod I use regular ZDoom (not GZDoom), just for that harsh chunky look.

    • @BrokenCircus
      @BrokenCircus 5 лет назад +10

      @@NathanJennings1222 If you turn off the filtering in GZDoom, it remains pixelly and nice.

    • @lionocyborg6030
      @lionocyborg6030 5 лет назад +15

      Marathon 2 did something similar by introducing the world to _duel wielded_ super shotguns, which ended up getting a shout out in DUSK. Marathon Infinity tried something similar with the Vulcan cannon SMG, but that gun sucks due to an abysmally small magazine nullifying the SMGs benefits. (it fires in vacuum as well as underwater) Marathon 2 also changed the Enforcer gun from an exceptionally useful hitscan automatic BB gun into a slightly less useful rifle that fires stars. And I'm not talking Mario stars either. steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/840394510886511810/86DB8CFA71B54313B0E3D509895B5F39E4764862/

    • @jignjorf9076
      @jignjorf9076 5 лет назад +17

      It's kinda hard to go back to Doom after playing Doom II, really makes you wish that you had the super shotgun in that game too

    • @PiousMoltar
      @PiousMoltar 5 лет назад +2

      500th like, you're welcome.
      The double shotgun was indeed one of the greatest things ever, but the new monsters... I dunno, there's something about most of them that just isn't al cool as the originals. But having more variation was still very cool.

  • @Rebochan
    @Rebochan 5 лет назад +171

    Hilariously, I used to know Sandy Petersen when he taught at Guildhall in Plano, Texas for awhile. He mentioned at one point that he made a map shaped after his own hand XD

    • @TheRetarp
      @TheRetarp 5 лет назад +56

      Nice! That would be E3M2 from Doom 1.

    • @Rebochan
      @Rebochan 5 лет назад +37

      ​@@TheRetarp Ha ha, I knew one of you guys would be able to identify it :)

    • @space_gamer9146
      @space_gamer9146 3 года назад +15

      e3m2: slough of despair

    • @garybusey9941
      @garybusey9941 2 года назад

      It's fitting that it's made after his hand, because playing Slough of Despair makes me feel like he's using that same hand to fistfuck me.

    • @AlbertBalbastreMorte
      @AlbertBalbastreMorte Год назад

      I love that map.

  • @FoxCunning
    @FoxCunning 5 лет назад +800

    There's something weirdly satisfying about the dying groan of Doom's monsters.

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin 5 лет назад +26

      Boy you gettin off on their death rattles? Wait, are you touching yourself?
      You're sick

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin 5 лет назад +3

      @Leonidas Piledriver confirmed?

    • @hmangaihzualatlau468
      @hmangaihzualatlau468 5 лет назад +13

      Yes, 100% true

    • @kg4boj
      @kg4boj 5 лет назад +9

      @Leonidas Piledriver Not the barrons the imp

    • @FoxCunning
      @FoxCunning 5 лет назад +23

      @Leonidas Piledriver Good thing I've never played Doom around camels!

  • @phazonclash
    @phazonclash 5 лет назад +703

    How much can Doomguy carry?
    Average weight for ammo if at max ammo: 277 lbs (calculated by some guy on a forum)
    Weight of weapons (either educated guesses, or weight of real-life equivalent or model inspiration):
    Chainsaw: 20 lbs
    Pistol (Baretta 92): 2 lbs
    Shotgun (remington model 870): 7 lbs
    Chaingun (Minigun): 85 lbs
    Rocket Launcher (AT4): 15 lbs
    Plasma Gun (Uses the sprite of an M60 replica): 23 lbs
    BFG9000 (I used the Junk Jet from fallout because they're about the same size and shape): 30lbs
    Total Weapon weight: 182 lbs
    Doomguy is carrying 459 lbs of gear when he's fully loaded.
    How much does a fully loaded Doomguy weigh?
    Now we have to figure out Doomguy's weight and how much his suit weighs.
    I used the stats for Blazkowicz from Wolfenstein since they used the same sized sprite for both games to get his body weight weight.
    Body weight = 245 lbs
    His suit is a bit trickier for sure. We can tell that it's heavily armored
    (he survives hell fireballs and shit). A close comparison to his suit is
    the suit worn by ODSTs in Halo. ODST armor is made mostly out of
    titanium plating, which gives us a place to start. According to a random
    guy on reddit, "A typical suit of armor weighs 20 - 25kg". I use 20kg,
    because suits of armor have overlapping segments and sliding joints that
    titanium combat armor wouldn't have. I then got the density of steel to
    find out how much steel is in a suit of armor, and then find out how
    much an equal amount of titanium would weigh. A suit of combat armor for
    ODST comes out around 170 lbs from material alone. However, ODST armor
    isn't nearly as cool as Doomguy's armor, which we see from Doom 2016
    gives him super strength and impact compensation, and the ability to
    breath anywhere without limit, so I estimate that Doomguy's suit weighs
    around 500 lbs (half the weight of MJOLNIR armor from Halo).
    Suit weight = 500 lbs
    Total weight = 1204 lbs
    How fast can Doomguy run?
    Oh boy, this one has been debated all over Doom forums forever. Here's how the numbers worked out.
    Doomguy's speed in game is measured in map units per tic, or mu/tic. 8 map units
    is 1 foot (hotly debated but these are the numbers given by ID Software
    in patchnotes so fuck other numbers). 35 tics is 1 second.
    In the code, his forward acceleration is listed as 50 mu/tic with a maxspeed of 30 mu/tic
    So his acceleration works out to 66 m/s2
    His measured speed in game is 16.6 mu/tic, which comes out to 49.5 mph.
    However, his top speed is capped at 30 mu/tic, which is 90 mph.
    What these numbers mean
    Doomguy weighs 1204 lbs and moves around at a speed of 49.5 mph.
    His energy while he's moving is 132132 joules.
    At his maximum top speed, he exerts 5739825 joules worth of energy, which
    is about the same energy as the explosion from 1kg of TNT.
    If he ran headfirst into a wall at top speed, he'd hit the wall with 9
    million newtons of force, which is just a bit south of the thrust
    generated by the Saturn V rocket on liftoff.
    Doomguy could put the Saturn V in space by running into it at full speed.
    Don't fuck with Doomguy.
    www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/4nt3fo/i_got_bored_and_did_some_math_on_the_original/

    • @simondaniel4028
      @simondaniel4028 5 лет назад +33

      Needs more upvotes.

    • @ricknorris9052
      @ricknorris9052 5 лет назад +27

      Awesome! I also worked out that if Doomguy fell from a height of 100ft whilst weighing 1205 pounds, he would hit the ground at almost 99mph with the energy of 535785 joules. This is Earth gravity, not Martian just to clarify.

    • @robsku1
      @robsku1 5 лет назад +8

      Man, that was pure awesomeness! 🤣

    • @chadmillionaire2555
      @chadmillionaire2555 5 лет назад +7

      fuckin' badass

    • @luketheduke420
      @luketheduke420 5 лет назад +5

      jesus christ

  • @ICARUSLIV3S
    @ICARUSLIV3S 5 лет назад +451

    25 years old and still kicks ass.

    • @demogorgonzola
      @demogorgonzola 5 лет назад +9

      Hell yeah! Both vanilla and with mods... and there's plenty. :)

    • @SpecShadow
      @SpecShadow 5 лет назад +4

      13:33 you know what to do

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 5 лет назад +2

      I wonder if there's a Doom tool that randomizes maps within a selected range of WADs? That would be cool for randomized casual sessions instead of playing the same sequence of levels over and over.

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 5 лет назад

      and I also wonder what editor would let me remove these annoying blue things on Quake episode 4 (not hating on Sandy Petersen though, I like his levels...)

    • @demogorgonzola
      @demogorgonzola 5 лет назад +7

      @@FeelingShred There a "Compendium" wad - collection of some of the best doom maps/wads released from 1994 to roughly 2004-2005 (comprises of 54 wads for a total of over one thousand levels). It's compatible with gameplay mods so you can load it with custom weapons pack or monster randomizer like Complex Doom.
      For the Quake question, editor of choice is usually The Quake Army Knife (QuArK) - open map and look for monster name "tarbaby".
      BTW There's a mod that lets you play as theis monster - "Tarbaby Quake" :)

  • @icecold1805
    @icecold1805 5 лет назад +82

    I mean, on Sandy's defence, he had to make over half the levels of Doom II, so he did the best he could

  • @ClexYoshi
    @ClexYoshi 5 лет назад +765

    I want to let you know, Clint...
    I cherish these moments. I know the algorithm and your current followers probably don't want content like this, but dangit! I come to Lazy Game Reviews for Lazy Game Reviews, and it's always a joy seeing you talk about games, weather you like them or they are a product of Head Games.
    I love your game reviews and your retrospectives. I love the reverence you show towards games. I understand why game reviews and retrospectives that aren't Sims 4 only come around once every two months or so, but I wanna let you know there IS an appetite out there for them, even if it isn't as big as your normal stuff.
    Also, I love me some Doom 2 as someone who snubbed on FPS games in the 90's after feeling like I had bad experiences with Goldeneye and Perfect Dark with my friends leading me to not really care about FPS games until VERY recently.

    • @LGR
      @LGR  5 лет назад +96

      Thank you, I appreciate that!

    • @morningvideo
      @morningvideo 5 лет назад +13

      Agreed!

    • @dumitruciupu279
      @dumitruciupu279 5 лет назад +10

      Well said Sir! I salute you!

    • @Outmind01
      @Outmind01 5 лет назад +35

      Hear hear. I originally discovered LGR precisely because of the copious amounts of retro game reviews. Even though I dig that Clint diversified his act, I think that game reviews should feature more prominently in his current lineup.
      In short, Clint, if you're reading this, there are dozens of us, DOZENS!

    • @SeekerLancer
      @SeekerLancer 5 лет назад +15

      @@Outmind01 Especially since old computer games don't get as much love on the net as console games.

  • @notthegoatseguy
    @notthegoatseguy 5 лет назад +363

    My Doom II story: My mom walked in on my father and I playing Co-op together when I was like 8. She said "[My dad's name], don't you think it is inappropriate to teach Matt it is okay to kill people" after she saw me blow away some Zombie. I explain to her "It's okay Mom! He's already dead" because, you know, Zombies aren't alive. They're just imitating life.
    I had great morals and great aim even at 8.

  • @MrNegativecreep07
    @MrNegativecreep07 5 лет назад +220

    Although I was disappointed at the time how it looked very similar, those new higher tier monsters really changed the flow of the game for the better

    • @ViktorKruger99
      @ViktorKruger99 5 лет назад +18

      I played Doom 2 first, and when I got to play the original I was "wow, this sure feels incomplete". Doom 2 makes the original feel like a prototype.

    • @jb_lofi
      @jb_lofi 5 лет назад +1

      The SSG, chaingunner and archvile, wow. >_>

    • @DoomHacker83
      @DoomHacker83 5 лет назад +8

      I love the new monsters (well most of them, some of them) as one of the problems in the original game was the limited variation of things to shoot. However, just about everything else was lacking in comparison. Levels were all over the place, some good some terrible and some just... weird. Music was meh. The addition of the super shotgun was awesome, though. I'd still take DOOM over DOOM 2 any day.

    • @warbossgegguz679
      @warbossgegguz679 5 лет назад +4

      I still think most of the levels are pretty meh outside of a few iconic ones (M01, Dead Simple, the Icon of Sin, the secret levels, etc.), but the new editions were great not only to spice things up, but for the sake of modding and such. Imo a ton of megawads are better than the base game, but the latter couldn't exist without the former so I give it due respect. Then again I'm a zoomer in the doom community since 2012/2013 (8th grade/freshman year), so maybe I just have a different perspective being detached from the cultural hype. Still, The OG Doom games remain my favorite games of all time in spite of a few rough edges here and there.

    • @johnarmstrong5533
      @johnarmstrong5533 5 лет назад +1

      I too think that Doom reached its final form in the sequel: the 1 new weapon really, *really* helped, but the 7 new monsters really fleshed out the mid-tier and top-tier echelon of threats to face and battles to have.
      It's tough going back to Doom 1, where the spectrum for threats goes "Imp", "Bigger Imp But It Flies Now", and "Even Bigger Imp But It Doesn't Fly Anymore".

  • @lknanml
    @lknanml 5 лет назад +126

    Crusader: No Remorse
    Crusader: No Regret
    Love to see those reviewed.

    • @Red_Lanterns_Rage
      @Red_Lanterns_Rage 5 лет назад +4

      sh**t another game that'd be cool to have a remake of now is D/Generation....
      ruclips.net/video/IN9b6A9LdtQ/видео.html
      the first levels are pretty simplistic but man it get's hard as F....but for an old DOS game the characters actually show fear, you can see em shake as the monsters get close to em or as lasers are fired....
      each scenario is actually a tactical situation so in a way it's a strategy game lol
      another game I'd love to see a remake of is Extermination
      ruclips.net/video/KhW3MDnbrEw/видео.html
      spec ops team responds to an alert at a science lab and 90% of the team gets wiped then the lead researcher informs the team what's going on, what they have at the lab and how dangerous it'd be if it got out....so you go on pretty much a one man assault through the base trying to get to the self destruct controls....eh
      I got 3 quarters through it, rented it twice but never could beat it lol but I thought it was cool, I was never into RE but I liked Extermination a lot go figure

    • @stephenriggs8177
      @stephenriggs8177 5 лет назад +3

      I loved that game, at first. But when I tried to pick it up, again, recently, I couldn't get used to the controls.

    • @Duzykutas
      @Duzykutas 4 года назад

      Controls sucked. It looked fun to play but no more than that

    • @lknanml
      @lknanml 4 года назад

      @@stephenriggs8177 Yea. Very old school controls. 1995. LOL Then again I started playing games when pong consoles came out. I've gone from only move up and down to room scale VR. Game controls have changed drastically over the many decades.

  • @jasongooden917
    @jasongooden917 5 лет назад +481

    Fun fact: the shotgun in Doom was a scan of a toy.

    • @markosofranic3905
      @markosofranic3905 5 лет назад +86

      So were the rest of the weapons, except fists, chainsaw and SSG.

    • @Stonedsquash
      @Stonedsquash 5 лет назад +3

      Marko Sofranić wait really?

    • @Stonedsquash
      @Stonedsquash 5 лет назад +1

      Rex Warden that’s super interesting. I’ll have to check it out. Thanks!

    • @markosofranic3905
      @markosofranic3905 5 лет назад +35

      And plasma gun is actually made from part of Rambo M60 machine gun toy.

    • @SeekerLancer
      @SeekerLancer 5 лет назад +28

      @@Stonedsquash They still have the actual toy they used in id's offices.

  • @jignjorf9076
    @jignjorf9076 5 лет назад +24

    You know you've got something special when a simple re-release of this game on modern consoles still excites the hell out of me, it's just that good

  • @themanwithnoname4385
    @themanwithnoname4385 5 лет назад +179

    *"things can always be fixed with more guns, this was made in Texas after all"*

  • @DoomKid
    @DoomKid 5 лет назад +27

    One of the best games ever made, god damn I love it.

  • @FarmerSlideJoeBob
    @FarmerSlideJoeBob 5 лет назад +95

    Your "Greetings" is the warmest sound I've ever heard even with my hearing aids :D Love that Videos :D

    • @willyjf6193
      @willyjf6193 5 лет назад

      His voice is great.
      Most people I follow I gotta lay off after hearing them talk so much. But not LGR

  • @grumpyoldwizard
    @grumpyoldwizard 5 лет назад +3

    I remember using my lunch break to go pick this game up when it was first released. I caressed the package and read the manual, dreaming of the contents; I had to work my entire shift before I could install and play it. I could hardly think of anything else all shift, rushing home to install and play this brilliant and fun game. Good times. Thanks for the memories, LGR.

  • @cr1tikal128
    @cr1tikal128 5 лет назад +7

    Doom is my absolute ALL TIME favorite game to play. I still beat it over and over, and yet I never tire from it. Truly a demonic masterpiece.

  • @pixlplague
    @pixlplague 5 лет назад +1

    This. This is the best way to sum up my teenage years. Just turned 40 this month and I still feel like that 15 year old dork when I watch your videos. Love it.
    Keep on the good stuff!

  • @jesusbear7367
    @jesusbear7367 5 лет назад +41

    Watching a revenant rocket hit and splatter an imp right in front of me was and still is the greatest moment in my gaming life.

    • @garrettk7166
      @garrettk7166 4 года назад +3

      Also seeing a Mancubus take out a cacodemon. Because fuck cacodemons and fuck E3M1 making me pistol kill 2 cacos. Lol

  • @stuffnthings4106
    @stuffnthings4106 5 лет назад +4

    I remember being so excited bringing home that Doom 2 on CD-Rom, and putting it in.... and of course my system couldn't handle it and never got to play it until years later at a friend's house. Like all the cool games.

  • @allan.n.7227
    @allan.n.7227 5 лет назад +86

    DOOM (][) was _the_ game that converted me from Amiga to PC... AMAZING game!

    • @hbarcellos76
      @hbarcellos76 5 лет назад +2

      Never tried Gloom or alien breed 3D?

    • @allan.n.7227
      @allan.n.7227 5 лет назад +7

      @@hbarcellos76 Yes.. But my stock A1200 wasn't quite up to the task.. :-(.. Actually the soundeffects of Doom blew me away totally.. And still does to this day.. that thumb of the super shotgun and the general sfx of the gore is brilliant.. On a good midi soundcard the music scores of Doom rocks.. And back then I was in the middle of my Hard Rock period ;-)..
      The Roland SC-55 does a good job for instance :
      ruclips.net/video/Z_LfE6gV9ok/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/SJ0Ob4PlCDU/видео.html
      But trust me I love my Amigas.. Still have my A1200 and A500 with a ton of accessories all of which the misses want to get rid of periodically (... and a bunch of C64s.. and a PET)..

    • @MongooseTacticool
      @MongooseTacticool 5 лет назад +1

      @@allan.n.7227 I had an A500+, with a 1mb extra ram module . I loved trawling through the un-named disks I got with it to figure out how to play them :)
      Also, why do women want us to ditch our stuff?! Lol

    • @allan.n.7227
      @allan.n.7227 5 лет назад

      Mongoose556 pure envy I guess :-)..

    • @a500
      @a500 5 лет назад +1

      Similar. It was the game (well alongside doom) that stopped me regretting my move to the PC. Although it did take longer to remove the pangs of loss over Workbench (Windows 95 start to smooth over that)

  • @onedeadsaint
    @onedeadsaint 5 лет назад +13

    3:18 "persnickety packaging ponderment" lol love me some good alliteration

  • @thecunninlynguist
    @thecunninlynguist 5 лет назад +27

    Wow 25 years...makes me feel so old

  • @VBarre
    @VBarre 5 лет назад +52

    Played this game so much that when the intermission screen showed up in the video, I smashed the spacebar :'D

  • @GreyWolfLeaderTW
    @GreyWolfLeaderTW 5 лет назад +40

    We all listened to Clint saying, "Often imitated but never duplicated" in Robin Williams' Genie voice.

  • @dumbcrambo1265
    @dumbcrambo1265 5 лет назад +1

    I love your retrospectives on FPS from the good old days. They’re always my favorite uploads on your channel. I’d love to see reviews or playthroughs of some of the expansions you mentioned. I know this isn’t an LP channel, but that would be fun.

  • @danielstarling7619
    @danielstarling7619 5 лет назад +8

    I still remember my Dad bringing home the 'Depths of Doom Trilogy' back in the late 90s. Was only allowed to play Commander Keen for ages until a few years later I played it myself - That and the original Half Life have stuck with me to this day.

  • @SQGReviewShow
    @SQGReviewShow 4 года назад +3

    This was a great Doom 2 retrospective! Well done, LGR! Loved the insight!

  • @nblhrt92
    @nblhrt92 3 года назад +7

    The Super Shotgun is absolutely perfect and anyone who says otherwise is wrong.

    • @Fl00fN00dle
      @Fl00fN00dle 10 месяцев назад +3

      Some might say it’s overpowered, they’re also wrong.

  • @Not-Great-at-Gaming
    @Not-Great-at-Gaming 5 лет назад +34

    2:48 "M" rating stood for "Must Have".

  • @VikingTeddy
    @VikingTeddy 5 лет назад +20

    One of my favourite wads ever was an aliens total conversion. It was incredibly scary and relied on atmosphere more than hordes of monsters.

    • @ComradeArthur
      @ComradeArthur 5 лет назад +1

      It was fun to watch a friend play it without knowing what they were getting into. No monster on the first level? NO MONSTER ON THE 2ND LEVEL? They just got more and more nervous.

    • @TattiePeeler
      @TattiePeeler 5 лет назад +1

      Viking Teddy, RUclips channel Kills Alone posted a video of Aliens: Eradication Doom wad. ruclips.net/video/cerzCMbshYI/видео.html
      You might like it!

    • @VikingTeddy
      @VikingTeddy 5 лет назад +1

      @@TattiePeeler Thanks. Looks really cool, I'll have to try it out.
      (Too bad they ruined the atmosphere of the video with that music, couldn't watch it more than a moment)

    • @briocheoleary5043
      @briocheoleary5043 5 лет назад

      Where can I get it lol. Cheers

    • @TattiePeeler
      @TattiePeeler 5 лет назад +1

      @@briocheoleary5043, Aliens Eradication Doom Wad: Forum thread and download links: www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106932-demo-release-aliens-eradication/

  • @SlinkySlyde
    @SlinkySlyde 5 лет назад

    Hey Clint, I enjoy some of your hardware videos but I love all of your gaming content retro or otherwise. Been here a few years and not leaving anytime soon, keep it up dude and be well!

  • @jeremyadkins9665
    @jeremyadkins9665 5 лет назад +8

    I hope that, when it comes out, you get to do a video on Doom 64. That is such an underappreciated game, and the story behind it is fascinating.

    • @warbossgegguz679
      @warbossgegguz679 5 лет назад

      Since id/Bethesda is acknowledging Doom 64, does that mean it's cannon? Because I've said that the end text crawl fits in perfectly with Doom 2016's backstory, but everyone insisted that it was non-cannon and that the games was only a followup to Doom 2. I know people don't care about the story, though I think that's more of just a joke at this point since it's still there and Doom-guy/the doom slayer's actions speak to his personality even if he doesn't talk, but still I wanna know these things.

    • @agitatedskeleton
      @agitatedskeleton 5 лет назад

      @@warbossgegguz679 Doom 64 always was the official sequel to Doom 2, but being stuck in one console is probably why people did not consider it canon.

  • @smithincanton
    @smithincanton 5 лет назад +2

    Sooo glad you touched on "D! Zone" as it made up a lot of my early gaming. The WAD and dialup manager for playing modem and network gaming made things really easy to play multiplayer.

  • @NoobGyver
    @NoobGyver 5 лет назад +250

    I never regret those 3 euros i payed for this a year ago on my PC. Never.

    • @madfinnishgamer38
      @madfinnishgamer38 5 лет назад +4

      2€ at a flea market back in 2008. c:

    • @Zanji1234
      @Zanji1234 5 лет назад +15

      :) try it with Brutal Mod and you will enjoy it even more xD

    • @nux3960
      @nux3960 5 лет назад +1

      Lucky you :)

    • @bendedpam4110
      @bendedpam4110 5 лет назад +4

      @@Zanji1234 Doom mods :D
      Moddb: *hold my beer.*

    • @startrek1992
      @startrek1992 5 лет назад +4

      I never regrer those hundreds of euros I've spent on doom during last 15 years.

  • @benquick4057
    @benquick4057 5 лет назад

    Great video Clint! I never clicked so fast on one of your videos. Doom 2 is one of my all time games. Must have taken alot of time to put this video together.

  • @elspuddy
    @elspuddy 5 лет назад +9

    ahhh doom trilogy, i remember getting that for christmas

  • @TheBaitou
    @TheBaitou 5 лет назад

    Thank you for making this video. This one was on the few games we had as kids in my family, so it brought back so much nostalgia and good times.

  • @densegames7185
    @densegames7185 5 лет назад +4

    The infighting (this is the first time I've heard the term, even though I've always loved it in Doom) is one of the things that has really always appealed to me in Doom. It gives you a way to do tactics in a way no other FPS game has since been able to deliver (sure, Quake also had that, but to a much lesser extent). That and the lively surroundings many levels in Doom and Doom 2 have were the biggest things that I were missing in the 2016 Doom.

    • @ahriman935
      @ahriman935 4 года назад

      Oh yes, plenty of moments (especially in Doom 2) when so many demons pop out it inevitably leads to infighting.
      The ensuing clusterfucks of pure chaos are still one of my most enjoyable moments in gaming, ever. Also makes the potentially extremely frustrating moments more tacklable, without actual detriment to game difficulty.

  • @UponDemise666
    @UponDemise666 5 лет назад +4

    I remember playing this game when it came out... I had never experienced anything like it before. & lemme tell ya kids, as an 8 year old this game looked to me like Doom: Eternal looks to your eyes when u watch it now, today! Life changing moment.

  • @CsubAzUrmedve
    @CsubAzUrmedve 4 года назад +7

    I remember back in the day where I thought if I look at the enemy up there and shoot, it will hit the demon and somehow it always worked. I was like "I control my aiming with my thoughts!" Ah... imagination.

  • @shanekelley3064
    @shanekelley3064 5 лет назад

    I have two sons. 15 and 13 now. I have all my classic consoles still hooked up to crt TVs. I have two gaming PCs and build them myself. Guess what is still the most played game out of all I have? You guessed it DOOM 2.. and it's source ports, mods etc. Especially my younger son. It's his favorite game. Even with all these new games with modern graphics, which he does play, I can usually find him on my computer slaying demons any given day. Fantastic video dude!

  • @johnfreeman2956
    @johnfreeman2956 5 лет назад +32

    I never noticed that Doomguy shoots the pistol left-handed and the shotgun right-handed THANKS LGR! 👍

    • @RageUnchained
      @RageUnchained 5 лет назад +4

      Doomguy is ambi!

    • @cornonthekobi
      @cornonthekobi 5 лет назад +1

      @@RageUnchained no wonder. He's a killing machine

    • @Chaos89P
      @Chaos89P 5 лет назад

      Lefties can still rip and tear with right-handed weapons!

    • @RageUnchained
      @RageUnchained 5 лет назад

      @@Chaos89P to an extent but that usually requires quite a bit of practice to be able to shoot both ways if not naturally ambi. I'm ambi now, however I was born left handed it took a long time to be able to shoot accurately right handed with certain fire arms despite most being designed for right handed shooting

  • @boydpukalo8980
    @boydpukalo8980 2 года назад +6

    Doom was awesome. I remember when it came out while I was in college. I was floored and it caused me to want to upgrade my Dell P90 desktop. Such an iconic software release.

  • @weene875
    @weene875 5 лет назад +64

    "There's also a room with hanging commander keens."
    *Sad LGR noises*

    • @nadussias
      @nadussias 4 года назад +5

      Look at how Bethesda massacred my boy

    • @tomypower4898
      @tomypower4898 4 года назад +1

      Yes great at gaming

  • @texasrattlesnake31637
    @texasrattlesnake31637 5 лет назад

    Epic video again Clint! 25 years have passed huh? Dang, how time flies - Anyway, the nostalgic power of this video is so powerful I had to re-install Doom on an old PC build on our garage and played it for a few hours! More of this kinds of videos bro'! More power and God bless from the Philippines!

  • @Damien.D
    @Damien.D 5 лет назад +45

    These were times where graphic quality of video games, strangely conceived level design and cutscenes made of plain text allowed us to use the best hardware we have to experience such a journey : imagination.
    And accompanied with a depressing soundtrack only high end sound cards could render with the quality it deserve, imagination could leave scars to the soul.
    Like Dante's depicted journey through inferno, Doom2 is a work of art that probably have a meaning to anyone who had a grip for it on its days. Maybe for the better, as said in the end, one day, rebuilding earth ought to be a lot more fun than ruining it was.

  • @brucetungsten5714
    @brucetungsten5714 4 года назад

    Great video! It was so exciting to see the ads for DoomII(Doomsday) in the magazines back then. Highly clocked 486s and low clocked Pentiums + DoomII was, and still is, a total treat.

  • @Gent82
    @Gent82 5 лет назад +3

    Doom II was MY Doom! 12 and 13 year old me loved this game. With all those guns and gory enemy deaths, it was and is totally badass.

  • @mihailgeorgiev7973
    @mihailgeorgiev7973 4 года назад

    you brought me back to my childhood
    with your videos.
    Кeep up the good work

  • @zesty2023
    @zesty2023 5 лет назад +39

    "proudly displayed in the PC gaming section of the local Kmart" - OW hit me right in the 'longing for the old days' gland..

    • @Colt45hatchback
      @Colt45hatchback 5 лет назад +8

      100%. sometimes i forget and wander over to the electronics section of department stores hoping to find a cool game only to find 100000 lame tv box sets and a wall of android and apple phone accessories... man miss being 10. Go to target or kmart. Wall of playstation games, wall of n64 games, rack full of cheap snes and mega drive games, small discount shelf with a few atari 2600 and nes games and accessories for like $3.. not to mention the pc game section, and the various other stores at the shopping centre with used games.. ahh man. There was even a little shop in an alley across the road from the big shopping centre that was run by two guys in their 20s who just played amiga in the corner of the shop with wierd drink bottles (i now know they were bongs) they had c64, amiga atari st, apple 2 and older ibm pc games. Not sure if they were new or used as half the boxes were sun damaged. But i remember absolutely everything was $10... bought two games off them. Might and magic clouds of xeen and darkside of xeen (i think. One pink box one orange one) still to this day I have not played them.. lol

  • @morningvideo
    @morningvideo 5 лет назад

    Happy that you still occasionally do game reviews. Thanks LGR!

  • @Silver_Warden
    @Silver_Warden 5 лет назад +8

    0:04 - Oh my God, you've got Delta Force by Novalogic in there! I love that game. Would love to see a video about it / the series in general!

    • @LucasCunhaRocha
      @LucasCunhaRocha 5 лет назад +3

      he needs to make a novalogic special with Comanche, F22, Delta Force and many others.

  • @user-dg1qz1wf7m
    @user-dg1qz1wf7m 7 месяцев назад +1

    My all-time favorite DOOM game. I love the mod community for creating the Brutal Mods! Gonna check out Project Brutality 3.0 soon.

  • @Fizzer99
    @Fizzer99 5 лет назад +67

    I still play this along with hexen and heritic on zdoom.

    • @jakupsundoe6226
      @jakupsundoe6226 5 лет назад +3

      Fizzer_Garage yep, I prefer zdoom over chocolatedoom and gzdoom. It’s a nice middle ground of classic look and feel and modern resolutions

    • @Fizzer99
      @Fizzer99 5 лет назад

      @@cyberman7348 Yeah it's a total maze

    • @kosmosyche
      @kosmosyche 5 лет назад +5

      Same. To me Doom and Doom 2 are the only games that are a step above such beloved classics as Mario or Zelda or Half-Life or Duke Nukem 3D or even anything else made by id. They are like the ultimate games of my life, imprinted in my DNA.

    • @Streetsy
      @Streetsy 5 лет назад +2

      I loved hexen... (and Doom II) ... I wonder if its still around? Im off to check....

    • @leegsy
      @leegsy 5 лет назад +1

      Same here. DN3D also and Shadow Warrior but to this day I've still never played Blood.

  • @underthemayo
    @underthemayo 5 лет назад

    Love and still play the originals today. Love and still play Doom 2016 today. I just love this series so much.

  • @xx-ph5ml
    @xx-ph5ml 5 лет назад +39

    I didnt even know that the revenant didn't wear any pants at all

    • @Moonbeam143
      @Moonbeam143 5 лет назад +11

      Pants are for the weak!

    • @rugxulo
      @rugxulo 5 лет назад +6

      @@Moonbeam143 Butt ... what about the "weak end"??

    • @garrettk7166
      @garrettk7166 4 года назад

      @@rugxulo Revenants definitely have a 'weak end'. Their ass is all bony!

  • @mcrsit
    @mcrsit 5 лет назад

    A day with an LGR upload is a damn nice day! Thx Clint

  • @notthegoatseguy
    @notthegoatseguy 5 лет назад +6

    PC gaming end cap of the computer game section at a local K-Mart.
    So many things in that sentence that are no longer around.

  • @angusmccall3400
    @angusmccall3400 5 лет назад

    You're videos are amazing. Never stop doing this.

  • @winfehler
    @winfehler 5 лет назад +9

    Aaah, finally a new LGR game review - you‘ve just made my day ! 🙂

  • @jasonviande5053
    @jasonviande5053 2 года назад +1

    Love this game. I bought the jewel case Window 95 version from a local Target for about ten bucks in 1998, and two months ago I sat down and beat it for the first time. Awesome game

  • @CoTeCiOtm
    @CoTeCiOtm 5 лет назад +21

    This got me excited since in two more years Duke Nukem 3D is going to be 25 years old, and I really want to see what you will do with it! Also, you got Descent there, but I don't think you've ever touched on those games, either. I know you've mentioned it, but I don't think you've done a video about any of the Descent games.

    • @nagash303
      @nagash303 5 лет назад +4

      Descent, Duke and Quake all around 1995. the full 3d movement in Descent was my favourite. lvl 7 shareware boss was so frightening to me my heart was raging. Shadow Warrior also was around that time. played them all.

    • @CoTeCiOtm
      @CoTeCiOtm 5 лет назад +3

      @@nagash303 those were really exciting times for videogames, you were getting great games all the time, and not only on the PC. You got the SNES, the Genesis, the N64 and the PS1

    • @TestSpaceMonkey
      @TestSpaceMonkey 5 лет назад +1

      @@nagash303 Ah the lvl 7 boss... wow does that bring back memories! From cowering in the recesses of the boss room's central tower to the rush of success when one eventually gets better at tri-cording and using environmental geometry/hazards.

    • @nickmarkins6746
      @nickmarkins6746 4 года назад

      There's a 20th anniversary edition on PS4 that has a new level and it's great.

  • @Evgenii_Fedorovskii
    @Evgenii_Fedorovskii 5 лет назад

    Thanks a lot for sending me to "Master Levels for DOOM II" and "No Rest for the Living" !!! I am played in "TNT" and "Plutonia" and even several amateur WAD's, but did not know about these official things ...
    Thanks for the video release! DOOM is eternal !!! = D

  • @WorldsWorstBoy
    @WorldsWorstBoy 5 лет назад +5

    Doom 2 came out the year I was born. It's the 1st game I've ever played and I'm proud of that.

    • @mapesdhs597
      @mapesdhs597 5 лет назад +1

      Holy grud that makes me feel old. :D I based part of my dissertation on the game in 1994.

  • @Skracknatt
    @Skracknatt 5 лет назад

    Absolutely love your content LGR! Everything from old computers, dos games to more modern reviews of stuff.

  • @Renhorable
    @Renhorable 5 лет назад +19

    7:43 they have misplaced chaingun with a plasma gun lol

  • @cnharlan
    @cnharlan 4 года назад +2

    I love how beautiful the production values of LGR videos have gotten.

  • @BCTCanadian
    @BCTCanadian 5 лет назад +10

    "Very happy, ammo added" I still remember all the cheat codes... you didn't even mention them Clint! :-)

    • @smiffwilm
      @smiffwilm 3 года назад

      Why mention something everybody and their mom knows about?

    • @BCTCanadian
      @BCTCanadian 3 года назад

      @@smiffwilm Nostalgia...humor...interest...but mostly just to get a smile (from you AND your mom).

  • @MikeBertelsenDK
    @MikeBertelsenDK 5 лет назад

    This review is just what I needed today. Thanks LGR!

  • @urbanyeti3631
    @urbanyeti3631 2 года назад +10

    First shooter I played as a kid.

  • @bigalsretroroom
    @bigalsretroroom 10 месяцев назад

    I absolutely love your retro PC builds, but these game reviews are fantastic.

  • @SonyaSaturn64
    @SonyaSaturn64 5 лет назад +44

    The Super Shotgun: Making demons piss themselves since 1994.

  • @Belgarion115
    @Belgarion115 5 лет назад

    Good stuff man. I was one of those kids that felt like DOOM was "done" after the shareware episode and never got into this. I recently went all the way through Quake so I might have to pick up DOOM now. Thanks for making awesome retro reviews! They are definitely my favorite of your stuff (nostalgia is a powerful force).
    In more recent news, though, I picked up Project Warlock. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on that. I'll also be picking up Ion Fury based on your review. Keep up the great work, we appreciate you and what you're doing.
    p.s. Your enthusiasm is so contagious.

  • @scottbennion5606
    @scottbennion5606 5 лет назад +6

    Favorite youtube creator ✔
    Favorite game series ✔
    Happy Scott ✔

  • @survivalistboards
    @survivalistboards 5 лет назад

    Just found your channel. Excellent video, and you have yourself another subscriber.

  • @Lecrogea
    @Lecrogea 3 года назад +4

    Happy 27 years Doom 2. One of my favourite titles in the franchise

  • @buzzbikegearofficial
    @buzzbikegearofficial 5 лет назад

    Man I truly love your videos. Like real love.

  • @iselfdevi
    @iselfdevi 5 лет назад +33

    proper gun dealer: pardon me sir, what is your weapon of choice?
    me: Yeah, I always go chainsaw.

    • @llloyd4
      @llloyd4 5 лет назад +8

      Reminds me of how they tried to explain why chainsaws wound up on a space station in DooM 3. Basically they said, in a terminal entry, it was a shipping accident. :D

  • @crazybeardave
    @crazybeardave 5 лет назад

    Excellent review- very well done, but I've a bone to pick about "Downtown". You're right, it doesn't stand up to an actual depiction of a city, but for that time, it was dog gone creepy. I remember playing it, seeing the title "Downtown" and seeing actual blocks on the map, and then my imagination did the rest. I suppose I'm showing my age, but I grew up with games that gave you a suggestion, and it was up to you to decide what was being suggested. My brain worked up all sorts of terrifying and wonderful explanations for what I was seeing, and it made me love what I saw. I know I'm a crotchety old bastard because of it, but man, games that prod your imagination are the ones that stick with you, and that's what Doom II (especially "Downtown") did for me.

  • @hiramesensei3112
    @hiramesensei3112 5 лет назад +32

    Doom 2 still greatest FPS of all time. And to this day there's still wads coming out that are more fun than anything to come out of a AAA studio in years.

    • @Kynar
      @Kynar 4 года назад +4

      ny favourite .WAD is HDooM

    • @DFFilmmaker
      @DFFilmmaker 4 года назад +7

      @@Kynar wtf is ur problem

    • @Figey_2022
      @Figey_2022 3 года назад +1

      @@DFFilmmaker LMFAOO

    • @vaele723
      @vaele723 3 года назад

      WADS like Evertinity, BTSX, Sunlust, Valiant, Vanguard etc... Are definitely better designed (level wise) than any AAA game that I'VE played from recent memory.

    • @sadham2668
      @sadham2668 3 года назад

      @@vaele723 what’s your opinion on the newer doom games like eternal and Doom 2016?

  • @lemagreengreen
    @lemagreengreen 5 лет назад

    You're right about Doom II being the one that really introduced a lot of people to a community, I remember first learning about WADs and level editing from Doom II but hadn't played with that side of things at all with the original.
    Nostalgia seeing that D!Zone box on your shelf too, I remember that being a bit of a reference for me learning about this stuff. The book "The Doom Hackers Guide" as well.

  • @auraguardianred4771
    @auraguardianred4771 5 лет назад +34

    Take a shot everytime LGR says "floating blob"

    • @LGR
      @LGR  5 лет назад +35

      Doomguy took all the shots already.

  • @Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial
    @Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial 5 лет назад +2

    This was one of the few games I had on my Mac as a kid, though it always scared me like crazy. This and Quake 2 both took years off my life but man was it a great time to play these games

  • @tya4335
    @tya4335 3 года назад +3

    I'm not the biggest gamer in the world, but I've played fair share amount of games, and none is better than this game

  • @theronstang
    @theronstang 5 лет назад

    That Delta Force box in the background takes me back. I used to spend hours and hours playing multiplayer back in the day. Love it!

  • @Rayofficial13565
    @Rayofficial13565 5 лет назад +4

    Tricks and Traps is my favorite DOOM level of all time. Go Sandy!

    • @FeelingShred
      @FeelingShred 5 лет назад +1

      and the city levels could be played in different orders (open ended) it was pretty cool for 1994? it wouldn't turn into a thing until what, Deus Ex in 2000? or Thief in 98

  • @nicodica
    @nicodica 5 лет назад

    Saturday morning, taking breakfast andddd DOOOOOM!!! Thanks LGR for this to start the day!

  • @wu1ming9shi
    @wu1ming9shi 5 лет назад +8

    "...smashing cinderblocks with his BUTT" Lmao!
    That made me laugh. XD

  • @ladams391
    @ladams391 3 года назад

    It is truly amazing that id made games that are legitimately still fun and engaging to play nearly 30 years after their release. I've been watching videos about Doom and Doom II on RUclips and studying the games for years but this year I finally saved up enough money to build a PC and a couple days ago I bought every classic Doom game during steam's winter sale. I must admit that I was a little worried they wouldn't live up to the hype I'd built up over my years of learning about them but having put quite a few hours into them already I can honestly say I would have paid significantly more for them than I did and still felt it was money well spent. That is a testament to the skill and passion of the people that made these games.

  • @joeMama-ls5km
    @joeMama-ls5km 5 лет назад +25

    I was literally watching one of your vids when I got the notification

    • @rejamrejam
      @rejamrejam 5 лет назад +3

      I sat down for breakfast thinking "I wish I had a new video to watch over this coffee" and I was GIVEN

    • @Vex22778
      @Vex22778 5 лет назад

      Me too

    • @pistool1
      @pistool1 5 лет назад +1

      I usually return asap from pronhub when I get the notification. Damn :D

  • @emojisarepurecancer8097
    @emojisarepurecancer8097 Год назад +1

    8:49 certainly a nicer review of the pain elemental than what civvie give, lol

  • @Mace2.0
    @Mace2.0 5 лет назад +81

    PRO DOOM: Evilution when? Wait, you're not Civvie.

    • @deathscreton
      @deathscreton 5 лет назад +18

      Rip cancer mouse

    • @pistool1
      @pistool1 5 лет назад +8

      @@deathscreton It will return, trust me on this one :D

    • @icecold1805
      @icecold1805 5 лет назад +6

      @@deathscreton He died on the previous timeline, remember we went back in time so now mouse is alive

    • @johnarmstrong5533
      @johnarmstrong5533 5 лет назад +10

      Thanks to Civvie's video, I have a habit of replacing the "Hell on Earth" subtitle with instead:
      Doom 2: Goddammit, Sandy

    • @lionocyborg6030
      @lionocyborg6030 5 лет назад +3

      I made a similar joke regarding Marathon above.

  • @deenstratos9075
    @deenstratos9075 5 лет назад

    Thanks Clint! Awesome as always

  • @beesechurger2562
    @beesechurger2562 5 лет назад +6

    I was literally looking for a Doom 2 review on this channel when I got this notification.

  • @fridaythe_18th
    @fridaythe_18th 4 года назад +1

    2:14 Never noticed that before and now I can’t unsee it.

  • @FloribraskaAve
    @FloribraskaAve 5 лет назад +4

    My dad was a marine officer and I remember playing marine doom all the time as a kid. Always told people about it and they never believed me. I think it was given to him to give out to his Marines after a deployment in the 90s

    • @toku7319
      @toku7319 4 года назад

      Do you still have it? That would be interesting to see.

    • @MondySpartan
      @MondySpartan 3 года назад +1

      @@toku7319 It’s available in “idgames” directory of Doomworld I believe.

  • @shemca4060
    @shemca4060 5 лет назад +2

    4:37 sounds like a hardcore techno track, with the steady pistol shooting sounding like a bass drum.