The news had just reported that this was the oldest case before the Ohio Supreme Court, and that they've sat on this decision for 18 months. That report must've shamed them into action.
Are you people really that stupid??!! When you break the law and fines are levied, you PAY!! What part of taking responsibility for your actions don’t you understand??!!
Remove the crooked judge from the public payroll not excluding all benefits. Like trump, he deserves no special treatment at our expense. Let him spend his own money.
Yes and put it towards the people who can't afford to pay court costs. For their court payments. There are so many crooked judges in the system today that think their word is God...
"... was trying to take the burden off the taxpayer ..." Now there are 13 defendants who will be suing the state , and theyll have the supreme court findings as evidence. So the taxpayer gets left holding the bill once more .
Not only that, keeping them in jail only costs the taxpayers, anyway. Who does he think is paying to house and feed inmates? Not to mention medical care if needed.
Yeh but he’s still put money in the pockets because the state and the feds Pay so much per day your sitting in jail so to them a win win. They will get that money by hook or crook
What is wrong with that? Why would you levy a fine and not expect them to pay it? I’m with the judge….these people need to pay for the courts time, not the taxpayers.
If they’re in jail and have no income, how can they pay? Instead, the taxpayers are paying to keep them housed and fed. They need to be out and working with a garnishment on their wages.
Just like most dirty cops. They only face charges is the public outcry is nationwide. Even then, they normally get sweet heart plea deals from their buddies. It’s disheartening. 🤮🤮🤮🤮
I don’t get why if judges are caught breaking the law, ruining people’s lives, especially the innocent people, then why is the justice system not prosecuting them. Or is that another thing we have to go to legislation?😾
I love it, as always it’s, fire him, take his pension blah blah blah, how about this? Don’t violate the law and incur fines and court costs? How about if you do earn a fine and court costs you pay them? He should have followed due process then jailed them, either way they deserved jail.
You don't expect lawyers to have to obey laws like the rest of us, do you? Lawyers, cops, politicians - they all consider themselves exempt. And judges are lawyers so of course they're included.
Wait…..this is illegal?! When i was younger i was jailed a FEW times for not paying my tickets and fines fast enough. I always thought it was just par for the course to be jailed for non payment. 🤷♂️
They need to look deeper!!! His kids are lawyers also and I won't comment more then saying there are more connections with Kim Hoover and other summit county courts and the ex mayor of Munroe falls. And a magistrate. Look up donations to the court .
The law is the law. If you don't like it, work to get it changed. However, police and judges (and lawmakers) should be held to higher standards, not weaker ones.
I dont get it people are locked up all the time for unpaid fines rights are always taken away without due process rights involved. Same with traffic tickets takes rights away without due process insurance laps are punishment for selling your car and not notifying the state You sold your property. America is a Prison debt system as 80% are just poor. And they keep you poor. 💯
The longer they are on the bench or in office the better chance they will become greedy and open to bribes etc. All public service jobs should be four years end of story that’s all you get.
Judges Nationwide constantly skirt this and make debtors prison all over the place and they will do it often times by saying it's contempt of court it's just another way of making a debtors prison😂
Shouldn't he know what the correct procedure was? Isn't that his job? I understand him not wanting local taxpayers footing the bill, but by sending people to prison, he's still burdening taxpayers. Silly man. He thought he'd play God, and it backfired.
it's not against the constitution go read the 14th amendment. The civil war was about slavery, but it wasn't abolishing it, it was restructuring who owns the slaves.
This judge needs to be put in prison! This low-life put people in jail, for fines they couldn't afford to pay, for offenses that weren't jailable offenses in the first place. That should have been in this news cast! This low-life went around State Law to hurt poor people with his twisted form of justice. I still can't believe we haven't seen the rise of vigilantism because of tyrants like these.
@@Don-OLDandJDareWEIRD of it was staged it would have been better funded and would NOT have used an AK when the currently demonized weapon are the ARs.
Aren’t all judges running debtor’s prisons? Aren’t all people trapped in jail, awaiting charges, losing their jobs, their homes, and their lives being held in a debtor’s prison? If the judge owns the prison, that is just smart.
No. Sheriff's Department runs the Jails. The State runs the prisons. No. No it's not, it's a conflict of interest and bars the judge from holding judicial office. Try again bot.
I have mixed feelings...Yes, these defendents must pay their fines, not leaving it to the tax payer, but could we not garnish wages and tax returns instead??? That is what happens if court-ordered child support is not paid...
This is not isolated. All summit county needs to be investigated. You’re guilty until proven innocent. Not to mention the half ass investigations, and they love charging men with DV without proof.
In my area you have to pay traffic fines before you can renew your vehicle tag. Other fines can be collected by court order through employer wage garnishee.
“When you don’t take my orders, what happens, I put you in an orange suit and say just sit there and look at the walls.” "Judge Hoover did not inform Cannon that he was entitled to an attorney, and the judge did not conduct an ability-to-pay hearing". newsohio Who knows how many others this judge threatened with imprisonment without being informed of their rights.
@@morticia3295 I have a question as to what you consider " petty ". Yes, I know that there is a legal definition, but it's just not a petty crime to the victims. What might be considered a petty crime may actually be devastating for the victim. Let's say somebody vandalizes a car and legally the owner can't drive it until it's fixed. They have to use their car insurance and then their premiums go up. Or, if the judge orders fines and restitution, the victim can use the money paid by the convicted party to fix the car and not have to use his car insurance. That way, though it's inconvenient, the victim won't have to pay out of pocket. But if the defendant doesn't pay their fines and restitution, the victim is screwed. Additionally, they may not be able to get to work without a vehicle and have to make other arrangements to get to work. That means they may have to pay for a rideshare or gas for friends or family members to come get them, or they may be at risk for losing their job. This is even more so if the victim does delivery such as for DoorDash or Uber eats, etc. So it's not petty to the person who was the victim. A personal example is a lawn mower. My husband was mowing the grass one day and nobody else was home. He had to run into use the bathroom but didn't walk the lawn mower back to the shed because he was only going to be gone a few minutes. He got a call while inside the house so talked for a few minutes before he came back out. For clarity, it was a push mower. So it wasn't worth a lot, but when he came out it was missing. Someone either had to be just staking out properties to get it that quickly or had really good timing on their part. This was not a lawn mower that we bought new. My husband bought it for around $20 and worked on it to get it running because we couldn't afford a new mower. I don't know about where you live, but in my town there's ordinances that state the maximum height for how tall your grass can get and other things related to a yard. It's not just about visuals, but sometimes animals can lurk in tall grass, with some being cute little animals like bunnies and others being a lot of snakes. That has happened around here. So the rules are there for a reason, but because the lawn mower is now gone, you can't cut the lawn and you're at risk for getting a citation yourself even though you did file a police report. That puts pressure on the victim in this case to either keep borrowing a family member's lawn mower until you can afford another, which means also additional work going back and forth to pick up a family member's mower. If you don't cut it you are at risk for getting a fine, and/or having to pay for it to the city if the city comes in and cuts the grass because it became too high. In this case the victim would then have to pay again for a crime that was committed against them. Morally, I don't think the victim should be liable for paying a fine if their grass got too high because of an incident like this or if they're disabled or older and are unable to pay someone to cut the grass, but if it's a city-wide ordinance it has to be followed. So again what might be petty to some is very important to others because it can impact their life in terms of time and inconvenience as well as in monetary ways. So the definition of a petty crime here, though there are legal definitions, don't seem all that petty to the victims.
@@rojo1193 i mean thats all extremely unfortunate but it literally happens all the time. Fair or not. The problem arises when tho when on top of $20 lawn mower costs and maybe $200 for your time and trouble but then the courts pile additional fees on whether that be additional "pain and suffering" fines which lets be honestly you dont need $5000 for this example it was inconvenient but not life altering, court costs, and possibly attorney's fees.... so something that should have cost $250-300 is now over $6000 or more. Our justice system is no longer about making the victim whole but now to completely bury the opposition. I work in law, we deal with this constantly and here in Ohio we actually do have cost caps on certain levels of lower impact crimes. People make mistakes, people are desperate and poor. Poverty makes crimes like these rise, the answer shouldnt necessarily be to throw people deeper into the poverty that drove them to commit the crime in the first place, especially for non-violent crimes.
So he was doing this to save taxpayer money but incarcerates them without due process...so we pay for their incarceration with our taxes? Unless jails are funded differently in this county, im not sure he put two and two together on that. He needs to go.
"Thousands of U.S. judges who broke laws or oaths remained on the bench." ~Reuters, Jun. 30, 2020.
He needs to lose his law license and be prosecuted. There is no justice
Abolish qualified, judicial and prosecuratorial immunity. USA needs to hold our public servants accountable
Asking public servants to arrest public servants is a no go for them.
Dam and we can't get rid of thomas and company.
So the judge is a criminal, and he gets off easy.
Not yet he doesn't. Removal from the bench usually comes BEFORE the criminal charges.
Zero Tolerance for these Judges Crimes.
of course, dis be ‘merika!
All criminals get off easily these days.
@@SpookyNeroespecially the one running for POTUS.
Immunity from Accountability is an Abuse of Power.
The judge WAS holding convicted criminals accountable....your hatred for that fact is duly noted.
@@timc9893you haven't read the constitution so educate yourself before making a fool of yourself
@Swansong-recorders you seem to be so proud of that
@@timc9893 WITHOUT DUE PRCOESS! Which violates the 14th Amendment!
@jeffreymcurtis They've been convicted of a crime and sentenced to pay fines. They've already received due process, nitwit.
The news had just reported that this was the oldest case before the Ohio Supreme Court, and that they've sat on this decision for 18 months. That report must've shamed them into action.
How about jailing these corrupt judges. Give them the same punishment as to anyone else.
Nah, can’t have accountability for judges
Exactly
Are you people really that stupid??!! When you break the law and fines are levied, you PAY!! What part of taking responsibility for your actions don’t you understand??!!
Double the punishment.
100% correct!
Take his pension. He ruined folks lives and gets to just walk away like nothing happened.
I'd need to hear more about this case. Was he forcing people to pay fines they were supposed to pay?
No he needs to pay with his LIFE
Remove the crooked judge from the public payroll not excluding all benefits. Like trump, he deserves no special treatment at our expense. Let him spend his own money.
Are you nuts? For making people pay the fines they incurred?
@@zackantonio9253 he’s nuts. Some kind of demon of vindictiveness has him by the balls.
Take his pay and any retirement
Yes and put it towards the people who can't afford to pay court costs. For their court payments. There are so many crooked judges in the system today that think their word is God...
No ..
Put it on the states debt ..
Pay your own bills
A corrupt judge? I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you!
The judge in question wasn't crooked. The Ohio Supreme Court, on the other hand, has some explaining to do.
@@timc9893 That judge violated the law, so he was crooked.
Lock him up and put him in prison.
Time for judges to face some justice!!!!
Send him to JAIL
It sounds to me like the judge was doing the right thing by holding the criminals liable for court costs!
THEY NEED TO CHECK INTO ALL THE JUDGES AND SHERIFS
Judges in America running rogue...!!!!!
If you don't pay your fines, you should go to jail.
"... was trying to take the burden off the taxpayer ..."
Now there are 13 defendants who will be suing the state , and theyll have the supreme court findings as evidence.
So the taxpayer gets left holding the bill once more .
Well, when YOU personally get the bill...could you post it?
Not only that, keeping them in jail only costs the taxpayers, anyway. Who does he think is paying to house and feed inmates? Not to mention medical care if needed.
LMFAO! They sure don't worry about the taxpayer when it comes to qualified immunity for police officers though do they?
That means every case he ever sat on will be eligible for an Appeal.
It took long enough he been doing this shit for years
All judges do that
He LOVES to fine people.
Will jail you if you’re too poor to pay.
Has NO SHAME.
Yeh but he’s still put money in the pockets because the state and the feds Pay so much per day your sitting in jail so to them a win win. They will get that money by hook or crook
There are literally thousands of judges who should be kicked out of office!
Why shouldn’t a person be jailed if refusing to pay the fine they earned?
Finally a judge being held accountable!
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Finally!
The judge is right
What is wrong with that? Why would you levy a fine and not expect them to pay it? I’m with the judge….these people need to pay for the courts time, not the taxpayers.
If they’re in jail and have no income, how can they pay? Instead, the taxpayers are paying to keep them housed and fed. They need to be out and working with a garnishment on their wages.
Debtors prison. An Oligarchs' wet dream. By a Stow judge, in Portage County, OH.
Isn't Stow in Summit?
Take his Pension and lock him up for at least 20 years.
That's Ridiculous,,,, The Bidens and Obama and Hillary and the 51 Should get 20 yrs
Removal?? Why are government employees always just let go for criminal offenses?
Just like most dirty cops. They only face charges is the public outcry is nationwide. Even then, they normally get sweet heart plea deals from their buddies. It’s disheartening. 🤮🤮🤮🤮
End lifetime appointments to the bench. 10 years max for ALL judges in the U.S.A. Whether they are appointed OR voted in!
Okay. That’s federal and SCOTUS with lifetime appointment. State and local judiciary run for election.
You would have to change the Constitution to do that for the federal courts.
Now do the supreme court.
I don’t get why if judges are caught breaking the law, ruining people’s lives, especially the innocent people, then why is the justice system not prosecuting them. Or is that another thing we have to go to legislation?😾
I agree criminals pay your debt, monetary and jail time.
I love it, as always it’s, fire him, take his pension blah blah blah, how about this? Don’t violate the law and incur fines and court costs? How about if you do earn a fine and court costs you pay them? He should have followed due process then jailed them, either way they deserved jail.
So tired of the double standard in US.
Judges are dropping like Flys 🪰
It's about time.
@danielgriffin8132 It's the color revolution.
*flies
@@TheTravAbidesone's an insect the others an action. You've picked the wrong one smugq guy.
@@biggtrux “flys” isn’t ever correct, dumbass
The 2 jailed need to sue TF outta this judge.
We don’t need judge or cops if they cannot follow the law
Amen. Well said
You don't expect lawyers to have to obey laws like the rest of us, do you? Lawyers, cops, politicians - they all consider themselves exempt. And judges are lawyers so of course they're included.
He needs to do jail time for his crime.
Usual suspect!
Your honor, you are not above the law.
I thought imprisoning debtors is unconstitutional? How TF did he think he could get away with this?
Would he be a Democrat? Just curious.
@@larrygrassinger2819 No. He is a republican only republicans have a history of not following SCOTUS decisions and trying to jail poor people.
Yes the SCOTUS ruled in the early 2000's that it is unconstitutional to put someone in jail for not paying fines.
Judges are doing the samething in FLORIDA.
At least he's being removed from the bench. Glad to see my state doing SOMETHING about some of this corruption and bs that goes on at higher levels.
Follow the money is the prison system privatized?
Private prison is a scary thing. You don’t want any go getter salesman in that business
Wait…..this is illegal?! When i was younger i was jailed a FEW times for not paying my tickets and fines fast enough. I always thought it was just par for the course to be jailed for non payment. 🤷♂️
The judge illegally bypassed administrative and judicial procedures. I gather he overreached his authority pretty badly.
Remember when you got to commit false imprisonment and the punishment was a change of career? -Me neither.
So when you get falsely accused and imprisoned you lose your job and have to change carreers. They get to change benches or prectincts.
OHIO WHAT A SUPRISE!
So how many will be "RELEASED' as result of the JUDGES criminality? Let me guess 0.
They need to look deeper!!! His kids are lawyers also and I won't comment more then saying there are more connections with Kim Hoover and other summit county courts and the ex mayor of Munroe falls. And a magistrate. Look up donations to the court .
Good with that…. Pay or don’t do the crime…
ohio has the worst cops and judges
The law is the law. If you don't like it, work to get it changed. However, police and judges (and lawmakers) should be held to higher standards, not weaker ones.
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I dont get it people are locked up all the time for unpaid fines rights are always taken away without due process rights involved. Same with traffic tickets takes rights away without due process insurance laps are punishment for selling your car and not notifying the state You sold your property. America is a Prison debt system as 80% are just poor. And they keep you poor. 💯
The name say`s it all = HOOVER !
Where are all these judges getting their educations? How are they passing the Bar? Maybe it's time to raise.... The Bar？
What did Judge do RIGHT
The longer they are on the bench or in office the better chance they will become greedy and open to bribes etc. All public service jobs should be four years end of story that’s all you get.
Guessing he'll run for political office soon
Judges Nationwide constantly skirt this and make debtors prison all over the place and they will do it often times by saying it's contempt of court it's just another way of making a debtors prison😂
Why is it always Ohio? How does this culture of abuse come about? It's like a banana republic that's full of banana peels but no banana.
Shouldn't he know what the correct procedure was? Isn't that his job? I understand him not wanting local taxpayers footing the bill, but by sending people to prison, he's still burdening taxpayers.
Silly man. He thought he'd play God, and it backfired.
Well said.
If its against the Constitution why isn't a crime and why us he not being prosecuted?
it's not against the constitution go read the 14th amendment. The civil war was about slavery, but it wasn't abolishing it, it was restructuring who owns the slaves.
This judge needs to be put in prison! This low-life put people in jail, for fines they couldn't afford to pay, for offenses that weren't jailable offenses in the first place. That should have been in this news cast! This low-life went around State Law to hurt poor people with his twisted form of justice. I still can't believe we haven't seen the rise of vigilantism because of tyrants like these.
I hope all the cases this judge has ruled on in the last 3 years are dismissed and thrown out.
That never has happened, and it never will.
That judge is NOT ABOVE THE LAW...!!
Let me guess, no jail or fine for him. Judges protect their own just like cops. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Oh so you guys don't like the fact that people get jailed for not paying the government???
So fines were basically pocketed all in the name of higher salary. Scary!
Your fine is 20,000 pay now or do 3 years. Your honor I just ran a stop sign.
I applaud Ohios Supreme Court judge who removed this bad judge.
"The Supreme Court’s Code of Conduct: enforcement confusion, extrajudicial activism." ~Brookings, Nov. 29, 2023.
Making up the law as he sees it....or wants it....
Take his pension,his car, his phone anything that belongs to the state.
He was definitely aided by prosecuting attorneys. Also untouchable, in this case.
Put hoover in prison for life.
Finally, catching these corrupt judges.
"Robed in secrecy: How judges accused of misconduct can dodge public scrutiny." ~NBC News, Dec. 26, 2021.
Someone who he abused needs to sue him for violation of his oath and take his bond
Lock him up!
It’s starting to happen a lot, the courts need to be investigated
Another judge that thinks he's above the law
Dirty mccurdy
Up next Judge Aileen Cannon ...
I don't know that FL is ready for that sort of reform. No matter how bad she makes the bench look.
How wild is it that the dude caught with the assault at (f)rumps golf course? Has his attempted assassination case in Cannon's courtroom?
Retard
@@sirjudge5055dude no way. Seriously? No shots fired, a possible staged stunt, AND it's HER court that gets him?!
@@Don-OLDandJDareWEIRD of it was staged it would have been better funded and would NOT have used an AK when the currently demonized weapon are the ARs.
Aren’t all judges running debtor’s prisons? Aren’t all people trapped in jail, awaiting charges, losing their jobs, their homes, and their lives being held in a debtor’s prison? If the judge owns the prison, that is just smart.
No. Sheriff's Department runs the Jails. The State runs the prisons.
No.
No it's not, it's a conflict of interest and bars the judge from holding judicial office.
Try again bot.
I have mixed feelings...Yes, these defendents must pay their fines, not leaving it to the tax payer, but could we not garnish wages and tax returns instead??? That is what happens if court-ordered child support is not paid...
Exactly, garnishment & leins were the lawful procedure. The disgraced judge skipped those steps.
There are hundreds of thousands across this country in jail for non payment of child support
This is just the tip of the iceberg...
This is not isolated. All summit county needs to be investigated. You’re guilty until proven innocent. Not to mention the half ass investigations, and they love charging men with DV without proof.
How do you make people pay fines without the possibility of jail time? I must be missing something
In my area you have to pay traffic fines before you can renew your vehicle tag. Other fines can be collected by court order through employer wage garnishee.
Also the fees if set too high become unconstitutional. These are also normally petty "crimes".
“When you don’t take my orders, what happens, I put you in an orange suit and say just sit there and look at the walls.” "Judge Hoover did not inform Cannon that he was entitled to an attorney, and the judge did not conduct an ability-to-pay hearing". newsohio
Who knows how many others this judge threatened with imprisonment without being informed of their rights.
@@morticia3295 I have a question as to what you consider " petty ". Yes, I know that there is a legal definition, but it's just not a petty crime to the victims. What might be considered a petty crime may actually be devastating for the victim. Let's say somebody vandalizes a car and legally the owner can't drive it until it's fixed. They have to use their car insurance and then their premiums go up. Or, if the judge orders fines and restitution, the victim can use the money paid by the convicted party to fix the car and not have to use his car insurance. That way, though it's inconvenient, the victim won't have to pay out of pocket. But if the defendant doesn't pay their fines and restitution, the victim is screwed. Additionally, they may not be able to get to work without a vehicle and have to make other arrangements to get to work. That means they may have to pay for a rideshare or gas for friends or family members to come get them, or they may be at risk for losing their job. This is even more so if the victim does delivery such as for DoorDash or Uber eats, etc. So it's not petty to the person who was the victim.
A personal example is a lawn mower. My husband was mowing the grass one day and nobody else was home. He had to run into use the bathroom but didn't walk the lawn mower back to the shed because he was only going to be gone a few minutes. He got a call while inside the house so talked for a few minutes before he came back out. For clarity, it was a push mower. So it wasn't worth a lot, but when he came out it was missing. Someone either had to be just staking out properties to get it that quickly or had really good timing on their part. This was not a lawn mower that we bought new. My husband bought it for around $20 and worked on it to get it running because we couldn't afford a new mower. I don't know about where you live, but in my town there's ordinances that state the maximum height for how tall your grass can get and other things related to a yard. It's not just about visuals, but sometimes animals can lurk in tall grass, with some being cute little animals like bunnies and others being a lot of snakes. That has happened around here. So the rules are there for a reason, but because the lawn mower is now gone, you can't cut the lawn and you're at risk for getting a citation yourself even though you did file a police report. That puts pressure on the victim in this case to either keep borrowing a family member's lawn mower until you can afford another, which means also additional work going back and forth to pick up a family member's mower. If you don't cut it you are at risk for getting a fine, and/or having to pay for it to the city if the city comes in and cuts the grass because it became too high. In this case the victim would then have to pay again for a crime that was committed against them. Morally, I don't think the victim should be liable for paying a fine if their grass got too high because of an incident like this or if they're disabled or older and are unable to pay someone to cut the grass, but if it's a city-wide ordinance it has to be followed. So again what might be petty to some is very important to others because it can impact their life in terms of time and inconvenience as well as in monetary ways. So the definition of a petty crime here, though there are legal definitions, don't seem all that petty to the victims.
@@rojo1193 i mean thats all extremely unfortunate but it literally happens all the time. Fair or not. The problem arises when tho when on top of $20 lawn mower costs and maybe $200 for your time and trouble but then the courts pile additional fees on whether that be additional "pain and suffering" fines which lets be honestly you dont need $5000 for this example it was inconvenient but not life altering, court costs, and possibly attorney's fees.... so something that should have cost $250-300 is now over $6000 or more. Our justice system is no longer about making the victim whole but now to completely bury the opposition. I work in law, we deal with this constantly and here in Ohio we actually do have cost caps on certain levels of lower impact crimes.
People make mistakes, people are desperate and poor. Poverty makes crimes like these rise, the answer shouldnt necessarily be to throw people deeper into the poverty that drove them to commit the crime in the first place, especially for non-violent crimes.
But this is going on in all our courts in Ohio everywhere
Keep voting Democrat, it'll change. 🙄 (sarcasm)
Lock him up!!!!!!
Glad to hear you can now ignore fines, etc., in Ohio!
So he was doing this to save taxpayer money but incarcerates them without due process...so we pay for their incarceration with our taxes? Unless jails are funded differently in this county, im not sure he put two and two together on that. He needs to go.
👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️
No Retirement! No Pension! No Expenses!!
"Holding judges accountable: How Reuters tracked judicial misconduct." ~Reuters, Jun. 30, 2020.
Oh...if only there were a body authorized to do that for to members the US Supreme Court
*facepalm* There IS. It's called CONGRESS. Learn basic civics!
"if only there were a body authorized..." tell us you have no clue about the constitution without telling us....
Finally a judge is paying the price for what he did.