David Cameron in conversation with Nassim Taleb

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
  • David Cameron MP and best-selling author Nassim Taleb discuss what measures need to be taken, in the wake of the economic crisis, in order to create a more Black Swan-robust society.

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  • @cpfrgb
    @cpfrgb 4 года назад +46

    I love this guy, i wish he cold be more available in times like these.., I wish to see him at Joe Rogan or something..,

    • @carlosemepunto
      @carlosemepunto 3 года назад +19

      He has said before that he doesn't go on podcasts that host charlatans or BS vendors. Joe has had a looooooot of those.

    • @dreams3830
      @dreams3830 3 года назад +2

      Not sure why one would be willing to talk to David Cameron, but not to Rogan.

    • @zakp8687
      @zakp8687 3 года назад +2

      Joe rogan viewers aren't exactly the most intelligent. Don't think nassim would go that low

    • @luizarthurbrito
      @luizarthurbrito 2 года назад

      Lol as if Rogan would have anything intelligent to ask him. Taleb's position about rejecting his invitation if that happened is clear.

    • @naxim4778
      @naxim4778 Год назад

      rogan is a major quack under quacks

  • @peterheise4956
    @peterheise4956 11 лет назад +51

    This man should be listened to and taken seriously. Thanks Nassim.

  • @vonjd
    @vonjd 8 лет назад +78

    So now little David has created his own Black Swan...

    • @csabour9
      @csabour9 7 лет назад +23

      Black Swan Event by definition is something you don't see coming. Brexit was not a Black Swan because you are aware of the possible outcomes way before it happens.

    • @thelawenforcerhd9654
      @thelawenforcerhd9654 6 лет назад +6

      My guess is that Cameron thought of the Brexit vote passing as a Black Swan even if rational minds didn't. Remember he is a posh boy who got everything he ever wanted up to that point, he used to run a club that committed major acts of vandalism simply to prove its members were rich enough to get away with anything. He won two elections on the basis of enriching a small elite at the expense even of those who voted for him. From his perspective the electorate not behaving precisely as their masters told them was four standard deviations to the right. (Note I didn't vote for Brexit or think it was a good idea, my point is simply about Cameron's attitude)

    • @cipga
      @cipga 6 лет назад

      Holger K. von Jouanne-Diedrich I bet he thinks of this talk often

  • @michaela7759
    @michaela7759 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for everything Nassim

  • @marlons488
    @marlons488 4 года назад +19

    He's too smart for this audience

  • @MD-hx3wf
    @MD-hx3wf 4 года назад +5

    Legit Points, I am surprised he even got a stage to expres them. Usually the 'establishment' does anything to take away the mic.

  • @MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou
    @MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou 11 лет назад +61

    Pisses me off that the audience doesn't laugh at his jokes...

    • @DrunkCatEyeless
      @DrunkCatEyeless 3 года назад +2

      actually, taleb hates programmed laughs

    • @phillipngongo7398
      @phillipngongo7398 2 года назад

      Most of the things which Nassim talks about are unconventional. It's difficult for an average programmed mind to capture what he says.

    • @MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou
      @MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou 2 года назад +1

      @@DrunkCatEyeless
      There's nothing "programmed" about laughing at a joke.

  • @fzs7368
    @fzs7368 8 лет назад +1

    David Cameron, you came(!) & you conversed. Much appreciate it.How much didn't I know you before.

  • @CJinsoo
    @CJinsoo 3 года назад +2

    “Mother Nature does not like leverage, Mother Nature does not like too big to fail.”

  • @OperaCantata
    @OperaCantata 9 лет назад +8

    the royal society for putting things on top of other things

  • @lrm21
    @lrm21 2 года назад +2

    Welcome to 2022, were once again Nassim Taleb is proven right.

  • @humanitanner
    @humanitanner 14 лет назад +13

    nassim is the man

  • @anshuman7113
    @anshuman7113 3 года назад +4

    The reaction to this interview is discussed in 'skin in the game'

  • @marlonblade007
    @marlonblade007 8 лет назад +15

    Is it to late to read it, Dave?

  • @PleaseSayYesTV
    @PleaseSayYesTV Год назад +1

    Artfully predicting how hyperinflation happened decade prior

  • @araymond1227
    @araymond1227 3 года назад +3

    This guy is a genius

  • @jamesmhango2619
    @jamesmhango2619 4 года назад +1

    listening while the world is hit with a virus called covid 19. Having read Black swan, Antifragile by Nassim Nicholas Taleb. The ideas are ruminating.

  • @alexr5510
    @alexr5510 3 года назад +2

    Cameron understood many of NNT’s lessons. Primarily aiming to reduce deficit as a means of reducing overall debt exposure - he failed but at least he was aiming for the right thing. Debt is toxic and is an existential risk for the West. We can overcome it but it needs action.

    • @adolfgarlic4157
      @adolfgarlic4157 2 года назад

      He lit the match of the single most destructive idea that has befallen the UK in its history.

    • @Withnail1969
      @Withnail1969 Год назад

      @@adolfgarlic4157 Brexit? Brexit is irrelevant.

    • @PleaseSayYesTV
      @PleaseSayYesTV Год назад

      @@Withnail1969irrelevant????

    • @Withnail1969
      @Withnail1969 Год назад

      @@PleaseSayYesTV Our current economic problems are nothing to do with Brexit.

  •  11 лет назад +5

    Maybe that's why Cameron is now trying to take UK out of EU. to reduce interdependence and risk contagions coming from EU.

  • @mzee101
    @mzee101 12 лет назад +3

    i like the fact that Cameron is looking to experts for new ideas on how to tackle the situation

  • @pleabargain
    @pleabargain 11 лет назад

    4:50 we live in a world that is much more fragile

  • @Ftfmglen
    @Ftfmglen 13 лет назад +1

    One can reduce the probability of Black Swans by changing the regulatory framework in which markets operate. It is the concentration of wealth in few hands that is causing danger to the rest of society..in a free market.
    We need to control the largest animals in industry and finance.

  • @kustomz2001
    @kustomz2001 11 лет назад

    There is always an end.

  • @requiemforamerica8432
    @requiemforamerica8432 11 лет назад +2

    yeah on this side of the pond the favored " intellectual" of the administration is krugman... UGH...

  • @tayyabahmed6216
    @tayyabahmed6216 6 лет назад +2

    What he said at @24:09 Oakeshott and ???

    • @cristianburich6828
      @cristianburich6828 3 года назад

      also trying to get that one for the last half an hour

    • @tayyabahmed6216
      @tayyabahmed6216 3 года назад

      @@cristianburich6828 Oakeshott and Bruno.
      Michael Oakeshott
      Giordano Bruno
      (but I'm not sure about this)

    • @danisaint959
      @danisaint959 3 года назад

      Ernest Renan.

    • @user-iy3wg3vf8g
      @user-iy3wg3vf8g Год назад

  • @ozgeozcelik8921
    @ozgeozcelik8921 7 лет назад +2

    he didn't read the book

  • @danno321s
    @danno321s 11 лет назад

    Simple solution: add another, then another shell!

  • @requiemforamerica8432
    @requiemforamerica8432 11 лет назад +12

    defiinitely.
    EU is a bad idea through and through. talk about "too big to fail" ...

  • @user-nw6qp1ki2n
    @user-nw6qp1ki2n 4 года назад +1

    Nassim Nassim Nassim 💜

  • @mandykhoo2473
    @mandykhoo2473 4 года назад

    Human wisdom : an action intellectual reduced to common sense

  • @bettySwollox
    @bettySwollox 12 лет назад +1

    We all of course know that some of us can be brilliantly rational in certain areas of our lives, whilst being brilliantly irrational in other areas. Look at Newton, as case in point. He was a brilliant scientist and mathematician on the one hand, whilst at the same time he thought he would actually be able to create gold from base metals in his home lab, and believed in the divine. It's nuts!

  • @paritala4u
    @paritala4u 2 года назад

    5:35 You can have interdependence not a big deal but you can't have too big to fail you have to make sure that something happens that consequences are manageable.
    6:26 Mother nature does not like Ricardo concept. One country specialized in wine and other country specialized in cloth or some other item. Mother nature do the opposite of specialization we call functional redundancy or degeneracy for eg mother nature assume your lips to eat to talk to taste a lot of things. So it's the opposite of specialization so mother nature can show us how to build a robust system a system that can withstand huge deviations and stay standing.

  • @KawallaBair
    @KawallaBair 11 лет назад +1

    You know that there are very very few people in the UK who are creationists right?

  • @theotryhard8651
    @theotryhard8651 3 года назад

    And then David Cameron called the Brexit referendum if only he'd listened to Taleb XD

  • @DrCruel
    @DrCruel 12 лет назад

    There are swans that are naturally black. What happened is more like a white swan that was deliberately and meticulously tarred black over a span of several years.

  • @gmshadowtraders
    @gmshadowtraders 11 лет назад +4

    11:24 - Taleb makes the startling statement that overconfidence leads us taking on excessive debt instead of issuing equity. The MM theory of finance teaches us the opposite - in a perfect world the value of the corporation is unaffected by how much debt relative to equity there is, since markets perfectly adjust their portfolios to achieve true value.
    10:20 - Taleb distinguishes between trader-to-trader ('Brooklyn') derivatives and MIT derivatives of academia. The latter is the problem.

  • @XArcane
    @XArcane 12 лет назад

    That's American conservative. British conservatives are usually just born rich.

  • @jamesknox3107
    @jamesknox3107 10 лет назад +1

    +Cascade3891 In the UK we have Darwin on the £10 note. This is not controversial.

  • @danno321s
    @danno321s 11 лет назад

    The problem with Taleb's antifragility model is that when the players all move toward that position, the fragility domain changes and needs to be redefined meanwhile new castles are formed, but it will take corrections to find the new information. This is due to human hubris which cannot be managed.

  • @markmason5039
    @markmason5039 4 года назад +2

    So prescient! COVID19 confirms his story

  • @Ftfmglen
    @Ftfmglen 13 лет назад

    One can reduce the probability of Black Swans by changing the regulatory framework in which markets operate. It is the concentration of wealth in few hands that is causing danger to the rest of society..in a free market.

  • @bettySwollox
    @bettySwollox 12 лет назад

    So what? What does Cameron's personal opinion on evolution, have to do with his ability to understand Black Swans, or, for that matter, whether Taleb knows anything about Cameron's beliefs/opinions?

  • @goproengineers
    @goproengineers 2 года назад

    Cameron looks like Mark Z.

  • @geraiswaiya2347
    @geraiswaiya2347 3 года назад

    Even before watching it i can tell it will have aged shy t leigh

  • @algerienizer
    @algerienizer 8 лет назад +7

    12:18 Islam does not ban debt it bans interest, in fact the longest verse in the Quran (quran.com/2/282) exclusively discusses debt and how to manage it.

    • @Automatic-Diaphragm
      @Automatic-Diaphragm 7 лет назад +1

      But without interest, why would anyone give money?

    • @samcrosswords8979
      @samcrosswords8979 7 лет назад

      Automatic Diaphragm
      Many do without.
      If you're asking why people help each other without expecting counterpart , you should live in a different planet.

    • @algerienizer
      @algerienizer 7 лет назад

      Islam urges those with the capacity to lend to do so, and do it often, this is a valued form of charity due to its role in helping the less fortune and benefiting society in general. Islam promises earthly and afterlife reward for those who take such risks. Moreover, Islam urges the lenders who come to realize that their borrowers will not be able to pay, or do so with considerable difficulty, not to ask for payment.

    • @vaultsjan
      @vaultsjan 7 лет назад +1

      I would argue that moderate interest has motivational aspect to it.

    • @jean-marce.choufani2781
      @jean-marce.choufani2781 6 лет назад +1

      theologically sound point, realistically it's absolute bullshit and the rate at which it occurs is closer to 0 than you would like to think

  • @spartan10010
    @spartan10010 7 лет назад +2

    taleb is so handsome =]

  • @paulezycom
    @paulezycom 9 лет назад +3

    Digital currency, What a concept! My bit coin is worth my initial investment of my promise of future labor.

    • @sdprz7893
      @sdprz7893 3 года назад

      Do you still have Bitcoin?

  • @goPistons06
    @goPistons06 14 лет назад

    David Cameron now PM not MP

    • @dailyfind8706
      @dailyfind8706 6 лет назад

      David Cameron now is the ex-PM and pig fucker.