PolarPro Variable ND Filter Showdown: Which Is Best For You?
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- So, you’ve decided to level up your videos by investing in a high-quality ND filter? Nice. I personally love the PolarPro Peter McKinnon Edition filters, but they come in two varieties: 2-5 stops and 6-9 stops. Both are incredible, but they serve different purposes, so let’s compare them and find out what purposes each filter is best suited for!
•PolarPro Peter McKinnon Variable ND Filters-
•2-5 Stop:
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•6-9 Stop (I use this one since I film at extra wide apertures):
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Time Markers:
0:00 - Filter Overview
1:27 - Unboxing & Features
3:02 - Basic Comparisons
5:24 - What 2-5 vs. 6-9 Looks Like
6:20 - Filming in Bright Light Outdoors
9:02 - Side by Side Comparisons
10:23 - Do You Really Need "High End" Filters?
Episode 157: PolarPro ND Filter Showdown 2-5 Stops vs. 6-9 Stops
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Time Markers:
0:00 - Filter Overview
1:27 - Unboxing & Features
3:02 - Basic Comparisons
5:24 - What 2-5 vs. 6-9 Looks Like
6:20 - Filming in Bright Light Outdoors
9:02 - Side by Side Comparisons
10:23 - Do You Really Need "High End" Filters?
This is so helpful! The shots outdoor showing with/without and the different settings was so helpful to SEE what they do, rather than just talk about it. Thanks!
I’m glad that helped! I was kind of worried it wouldn’t make sense. 😬
Thanks a lot! I've been searching for so long for someone to compare these 2 filters properly and now I finally found your video. Keep up!
I'm happy it was helpful!
This is the video I was waiting for the whole years! I couldn't make decision between 2-5 & 6-9 for my sigma 16mm f1.4 (w/ a6400). I'm leaning toward to 6-9 stop after watched this. Thanks man!
It’s a great fit for a 1.4 👍
i think this is the most accurate review for the nd filter,
Thank you!
Best ND filter review and technical guide out there. You totally get it. Thank you.
Thank you! It's always tough to find the right filters, so I'm glad this is helpful. A friend of mine has the magnetic Freewell variable filter and it's so easy to use, but it's pretty darn pricey.
just got my 2-5 filter delivered today, can’t wait to start testing it out!
Yes! It’s absolutely worth the price.
You finally answered my question about what ND filter would I need for sunny days. Great video!
Awesome! Since this video, I did invest in my own 2-5 stop version that I like to pair with my f4 lenses outside. But the 6-9 stop version is WONDERFUL for really wide open apertures.
Great video!!! Fun and informative is what people need. Love what you’re doing, and love the enthusiasm! 😜
Thanks Aaron! That means a lot. 👍
Nice video! Awesome that you got a filter sent to you from Polar Pro! Love your handwritten titles very original. Funny I did an ND Filter video this week. Yea no Peter McKinnon though lol those are super nice.
Thanks Paul! I appreciate the kind words 👍
Polar Pro you rock. Way to support those creators on the rise like The Enthusiasm Project. Super stoked for you. Congrats, and great video. Your quality is amazing, and we love learning from you.
Thanks as always! The people at PolarPro are awesome- they first reached out to me a long time ago, before 500 subscribers, and have always been supportive since then. Plus I’ve been using their stuff for years, even before I had a channel 👍
@@tombuck Wow, thats great to hear. Its not all about the biggest channels... Those on the way up get recognition too. Love this platform for that reason. Some may disagree, but I think opportunities are out there for all of us.
Absolutely they’re out there. There’s plenty of room!
Thanks! I was stuck between these two, but just picked up the 6-9!
I’m glad it helped!
Botherrrrrr you are incredibly informative exactly on the spot and really creative with your show.... Loved it and subscribed my friend (great content) cheers from Israel :)
Thank you Ben! I really appreciate all the support! Hello from California!
Really helpful and detailed video. Thank you Tom!!! ❤😎👌
I really appreciate that, thank you!
This tells me I need the 2-5. Nice review man.
I'm so glad it helped you decide!
Great review very useful to see the differences. I’ll be going with the 6 to 9 being here in Texas!
Glad it helped! Texas is bright and hot so 6-9 is probably a good choice 👍
I am going to subscribe your channel because of this video. I was always confuse what to choose. But I am clear now. Your bright studio setup is amazing. Keep making good content brother. 🇧🇩
Wow, thanks so much! I'm glad it helped- I was definitely confused too at first.
Super easy to follow. Thank you for the video.
You’re welcome! 😎
lol. I was just standing at Unique Photo yesterday trying to decide which to buy. Now I know. Thanks bud!
Awesome! I’m glad it helped!
This was the perfect video I was look for
I'm so glad to hear it!
Great video! I have the 67 and 77 2-5 stop and love them!
They're great! Still holding up very well for me.
Good to know!
Thanks for this video! Great comparison between the 2/5 and the 6/9 stops. I was in doubt but thanks to your video I just ordered the 6/9. I mostly need the ND filter for outside shooting and I love to film at F1.4. And when it's too much anyways, I'll just crank up my ISO a bit on the Sony A7III.
I think you made the right choice. The darker filter will be great for f1.4 👍
@@tombuck Hi Tom. I got the 6-9 stops and super happy with the choice. Now I have a new “problem”. I’m not sure to add it to my filter wallet, all nice together, Or use the included protection. How do you store it?
Love your dog 😍 we just got a golden pup and he looks so similar to yours! And great video by the way, just picked up the mist 6-9 filter!
Goldens are the best. If yours is the one in your profile picture, he’s adorable. Ours just has no idea he’s 80lbs and runs around like a maniac. 😁
@@tombuck it sure is! He’s a great pup, but he definitely has that same attitude 😂 doesn’t realize he’s huge and jumps all over people every chance he gets. They’ve gotta be the most social breed. But we love em so much!
Nicely done review. I have the 2-5 and am thinking of getting the 6-9. The two-pack with both is only $449, which is a great deal opposed to buying them separately. Wish I'd thought it out more before buying the one. The quality is amazing. Maybe I'll get the set and offer the 2-5 to a friend for $200 and spread the love.
Nice to see Polar Pro support you, you're a great reviewer!
Thanks Kai! I. Also looking at buying a 2-5, even though I mainly use the 6-9. They’re just so good!
@ Kai Tiura where can I find the set for that price??
mishyq808 www.polarprofilters.com/products/variable-nd-mckinnon?variant=22163634880596 You have to preorder right now though, out of stock I guess...
Funny because I just received both and was thinking about the same thing lol. Great content
Thanks! I’d love to see your perspective on the filters 👍
Awesome comparison and breakdown! I gotta ask.. where did you get that shirt? Looks super cool
It's from the Canon booth at VidCon 2018
Best review I've seen!! I wanna use it primarily for long exposure shots during the day and around sunsets. My lenses go 2.8 at it's widest so I'm thinking of getting the 2-5? Or should I get the 6-9?
It really depends on how long you want your exposures to be. If you’re going over 25 seconds. I’d get the 6-9. I even have an ND1000 from polar pro, which is ridiculous but great for suuuuper long exposures.
what if you shoot at 120? or 60fps? will the 2-5 be fine with 1.4?
Hey Tom, hoping you can help. I have a Bmpcc 6K g2, and those cameras suffer from ir pollution so my question is; should I get a fixed IRND and then add diffusion like mist filters on top of that, or just get an ir cut filter, then add diffusion and a VND on top.
Apart from needing more filters, are there any differences between fixed and variable nd’s to know about?
Your videos are good! 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
very informative. thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative
Man that Broll is crispy
Does anyone know if the section between the polarpro logo and the number 2 act as a uv filter (no darkening) or does it always have some darkening?
There’s ND “darkening” all the time when the filter is attached 👍
I’m using the EOS R with the 85mm f1.8 and this video just made me realize I need both 😂😂😂 great info sir !!!!
You definitely can't go wrong with both on a 1.8 lens. Hope you're liking the 85mm! I got one at the end of last year and really wish I hadn't waited so long. It's an amazing focal length.
1.2*
Are you able to use a lens hood? if not are you getting lens flare? Great video btw. Is 100iso native to the R6? My c300 is native iso 800. So this might make a difference on which vnd filter to get? correct me if i'm wrong!!
I THINK the R5's native ISO might be 640? I'm not 100% sure though. You cna still use a hood with these, but it does become tougher to adjust them/see the settings on the filter.
Seems like great content but I would like to ask a question: Will the 2-5 version let you get away with it if not shooting photos at high noon at f1.4? I mean I keep using my sigma 30mm f1.4 primarily for photos shouldn't the shutter be enough to compensate?? 🤔🤔
Yes, if you’re not trying to get ultra long exposures with your photos, that should work just fine.
Hi! Quick question. Does the 6-9 have the same ability as the 2-5 in regards to turning it down to 0 without taking off the filter?
I wish it did, but neither of the McKinnon edition filters have a 0 setting.
I like the 6-9 for my FX3 since I want to be filming at 24fps, but I wonder if the same apply on my Tamron 17-28mm F2.8 since its far from F1.4
Awesome examples man! Did you color grade the examples at all? I'm about to order the 6-9 because my Tiffen gives an INSANE green cast on my Sony A7iii /cry, it's a pain in the butt trying to white balance it with my presets already made and still doesn't give me the normal look I use because the white balance is different.
No color grading. These are straight from the EOS R 👍
@@tombuck Awesome thanks!
I shoot almost all my stuff at f1.8 but I normally shoot at 50fps and 100fps
what would you recommend
great review btw!! best one I've seen for these filters by far
If you're outdoors at 1.8, I'd definitely recommend the 6-9 stop filter.
Quick question, would the 6-9 filter be too dark during morning/sunset time shooting video at 60 FPS 120 shutter speed?
Depends on your aperture. Anything below 2.0 should be fine.
You're never out of luck with Tom Buck (sincere appologies for the pun), what a coincidence, I've just ordered the 6-9 and was watching another video… Then yours came as suggested… Great, and I might even be right with my choice. At first, I thought of getting the 2-5 because the main scenario would be indoors, but then I thought that I should get the 6-9 because of future work outdoors. Like, make sure I cover those needs first. Hell, I maybe do go and buy the 2-5 so I'm covered. This is defo money well spent and an investment as well. Cheers!
I saw your comment in a chat yesterday! They're great filters. I went with the 6-9 initially because I usually shoot at f1.4, but it's very handy to have both.
@@tombuck I took the Mist version, so curious how that works indoors... The 2-5 option will wait a little..
Just the nd video I needed
Im sure that you've answered this already but i just wanted to clarify. I know that you put 2-5 for if you are shooting at above 2.8 and 6-9 if below that. My though is where should i be if i'm primarily shooting at 2.8 specifically? While trying to research for Variable ND's I always seem to find that trying to find a ND suitable for 2.8 is always the dead middle between two separate products or the ones that sit in the middle aren't too highly recommended. Great video though! Always nice to see new faces in this genre
I think you’re right about being smack dab in the middle. I live in the desert, so when I film outside it’s REALLY bright. If I were filming primarily at 2.8, I’d probably go with the 6-9 just to be safe. If you’re not filming in high-noon ultra bright conditions, the 2-5 should be good. Some people also use their ND filters to add dynamic range when filming indoors- I’d recommend the 2-5 for that as well.
If it's too dark you have always the possibility to increase the iso a bit.
@burke what did you end up going with? In this same boat, mainly shooting at 2.8, I live in SoCal so it’s pretty sunny most of the time, thinking 6-9 as Tom said
We are looking at getting the R with the 24-105 F4 and mainly shoot during the day. The next lens we will invest is a 16-35 f4. Keeping in mind that we will be mainly shooting in log so iso is at 400. What would you suggest getting knowing we will shoot widest at f4? We only have budget for 1 of the 2 filters :/
If you’re outdoors with an iso of 400 and I’m assuming you’re keeping the shutter speed at something like 1/50, then I think the 6-9 stop is probably the way to go 🤔
The Enthusiasm Project Allright thanks!
I don’t know which filter 2-5 or 6-9 to buy for my Sony a7siii with 24mm gm and 16-35gm
It’s tricky. With a 2.8 lens, you’ll like;y be ok with the 2-5 stop, but if your primarily shooting at 2.8 in bright sunlight, then the 6-9 might be smarter just to be safe.
I have a Nikon Z6 with a 24 - 70mm kit lens - I use for video but also for landscape photography. I love the long exposure look on water. Usually out at mid-day if I am with someone (hard to get others up with me early in the am). Video usually 1080p f/4, sometimes 4K. Which would you recommend? 1-5 or 6-9? Im looking at the PM VND w/ Mist 2.
Honestly, I would probably go with the 6-9 even though you’re using f4, since it’ll be midday.
@@tombuck thank you for the quick reply, I will go with your recommendation!
I am currently loving shooting wide open but I also shoot inside a lot. which would you go with for that?
Inside, I would think the 2-5 should be fine.
This is one of the ONLY useful videos on these two products. All others just blow smoke up PM's backside and show a few shots. As awesome as he is...that's not what's needed. Your vid was exactly the info people need. Perfectly executed outside examples of their differences and you should be repeatedly thanked. Thank you x 10 :) I bought both because I'm filthy rich* and I know I'll need the options.
*I'm totally not rich! Ha! Just a bit stoopid to spend £500 on just 2 filters :)
BTW: For those who understandably can't stomach the cost...I 100% recommend the K&F Concept Slim Variable at around £50 for an 82mm. It's absolutely brilliant for the price, super slim (maybe more than these), has hard stops and perfectly cut threads. The thread on my 3 is 82mm with an 86mm front thread. These Polar Pros had better blow them out of the water...but I fear not.
Thanks for the kind words and helpful recommendation! These really are good filters in their own right. I did end up buying the 2-5 stop for myself just so I can always be prepared. Definitely worth the investment. 👍
Very good review, thanks! When you have 2 lenses with differently filter size (77 mm and 82 mm) is it possible to get a step up ring to use the filter for both lenses? And when yes, should I buy the 82 mm?
Yes, that's totally possible and a great way to add in some versatility!
The Enthusiasm Project thanks, and you would buy the bigger one?
I think it’d be best to get the biggest and then step down. Unless you have a lens you’re planning to buy, then see if that diameter matches with one of the current lenses and get that size.
I am shooting in Germany, on an FX3, with a 16-35mm, mostly outside and open wide at 2.8 -- would I go for the 6-9?
You could probably get away with either of them. If it's really bright and you're always at 2.8, then the 6-9 is probably the best bet.
Is it a bad idea to get the edition 1 (since they are cheaper now)? I know they made external changes, but is the quality of the actual results of photos and videos the same for both edition 1 and 2? That’s all I care about, please help!
I haven't used the Version 2 myself, so I can't say. Both og my filters are the originals and I like them a lot (plus they're expensive, so I'm not looking to update them any time soon). The image quality is outstanding, but they do sometimes shift things to be a little warmer in color temperature. Fortunately that's an easy fix and hasn't been a real problem.
Tom Buck thanks for the reply! So in order to fix that warm hue it gives, do you just adjust the temperature meter to fix that?
9:57 hold on! This part had me kind of confused;
You see, I probably am going to buy a 24-105 f4L canon lens, But i'm curious to see if the 2-5 stop ND would cover up nice exposure at stop 5 with f4. but since you changed your F to F/1.4 between the 2 shots at that exact comparison, I don't know if the 2-5 filter would cover up my sunny day shoots outside, or that I really need the 6-9, hoping the 6 start stop wouldn't be too dark of an image.
Ahh, I see (sorry for the confusion). I would say that the 2-5 stop filter will be fine for f4, but if you’re planning to do really long exposures, then stick with the 6-9.
okay so with a 24-70 2.8 , I'm always shooting a 2.8 , never really a 4, I'm thinking mainly outdoors, I just moved states so I don't know how bright it can get during summer and what not, I heard getting the 6-9 is the better stop regardless because if it's too dark then you can just bump the ISO up instead of the 2-5 for it being too bright and having to crank the shutter speed, I'm still trying to figure out which one to get
The 6-9 is smart if you plan to shoot at 1/50 shutter speed.
The Enthusiasm Project okay, cause I plan on shooting a lot during the summer, and going into cities. So if I shoot anything below or a 1/50 you would recommend that, what about something like a 1/200 and up shutter speed ?
It’s a tough call, I think either could work. I started with the 6-9 and added the 2-5 later on.
The Enthusiasm Project okay, did you find yourself pushing the ISO in case If it was too dark. Grain is pretty easy to fix, sorry for all the questions , but I’m just curious as to what worked for you. Thank you so much for responding
I haven’t found it to be an issue outdoors. I’ve only had to do that when filming something with a lot of contrast, like under a shaded patio with a bright background, or inside with a bright window.
Need your recommendation - I like Peter's edition however do you think Polar Pro Basecamp may be a better choice which serves overall purpose instead of getting different filters for different thread sizes?
That's a great question! I think a lot has to do with how comfortable you are using a larger setup. A matte box adds quite a bit of size and weight, but also a ton of versatility.
If you want to keep things compact, then you can always use adapter rings for your lenses (basically get the largest filter size you'll need and then use step down rings to make it fit any smaller lenses you have).
@@tombuck Thank you so much for spending time and your reply. You earned one subscriber:)
Any recommendation for a step down ring, I hope you mean step up ring? Of course Polar Pro must not be selling them if so I will be curious to know why people would buy different size filters and spend money instead of buying largest possible one with a step up ring.
Not sure if there would be any other reason than people having pots of money :)
Quote: "This is not a which is best Review".... The Title: "Which is best for you?"
Well played!:D
Nice Video! Thanks for the Help to choose!
Haha, touche! I guess there's a difference between a definitive "best" and a best for specific needs/situations.
great review. can I ask a question about the rotation of the filter? is it kinda hard to rotate or is it kinda loose?
I would say it's in the middle. I think PolarPro has done a slight revision, and the newer filter I have feels better than the older one 🤷🏻♂️
I am planning to buy one soon do you think it is better to go for 6-9 stops for my f1.8 prime and f2.8 zoom lens?
If you’re planning to use wide apertures like that most of the time,the 6-9 is probably best 👍
Thank you.
Hi! For slog3, what would you recommend me?
My semi-uneducated opinion says that it’s more about your overall exposure rather than picture profile. If you’re using a wide aperture in bright light, definitely get the 6-9 stop.
Interesting that at f4 filter 2-5 it's still overexposed at 10:02
If i were to choose one filter, wouldn't it be safer to get the 6-9 for bright days? and for less bright days just increase the ISO a bit
If you’ll be in bright light at 2.8 and under (maybe even f4 too), then the 6-9 is the way to go. 👍
@@tombuck Thanks for the reply! I think I'll get just that :)
I’m using a 24mm f1.4 GM, with my Sony A7C. I have to keep my shutter at 1/200 so I can use catalyst browse. Do you think I could get away with the 2-5stop ND, since my shutter is higher all the time. Yes I’m a f1.4 manic also..lmao
If you're outdoors in super bright daylight, then it might still be overexposed. If you're not filming at high noon or in super sunny conditions, the 2-5 could work well.
dude you did such a good job at reviewing but just imagine... I STILL CANT DECIDE 😭😭
It’s a tough decision! If you’re doing a lot of work wider than 2.8, I would recommend the 6-9.
@@tombuck I currently have an F4 lens so I think I might go with the 6-9 but again I'm still holding back cuz I don't want it to be waaaay too dark. Never thought that deciding on which ND filter to get would be that hard lol.
I totally understand 🤦🏻♂️
I literally has the same idea until I went through the comments and saw yours 😂.
Hi sir. Is it okay to use with ultra wide angle like 16-35 f4?
Absolutely it is!
The Enthusiasm Project because many people use cheap filters on their wide angle lens then it has white color around picture.
If anything, these make the color temperature a bit warmer, but that’s easy to fix either in camera or editing.
Thanks!
Welcome!
what aperture did you used @ 8:11?
i saw the example at 9:53 thank you so much, i will choose 6 to 9 stop for may f1.4 lens
Glad it helped! The higher ND is definitely a good choice for wider apertures.
2-5 stopes is good during evening at 1.4?
If it’s not a bright evening, you’ll probably be able to get by with it.
@@tombuck tnks
What time of the day is this shot?
This was between 1 and 2pm, if I remember right. I wanted to wait until the brightest, harshest light of the day.
I’m going to go film in Antarctica soon. EOS R + RF 24-70 f2.8 and RF 35 f1.8. Do you recommend the 6-9 at f2.8 because I shoot a lot at 60fps 125ss? Thanks!
Wow Antarctica! That’s awesome. I think the 6-9 would be the smart option.
Do you really need ISO at 100 though? Modern day cameras can handle a few stops worth of ISO very easily.
That's true, and depending on your picture profile your camera might perform better at a higher ISO, but in general, I still like keeping it as low as possible.
@@tombuck True, there's better dynamic range at ISO 100 as well.
Right now I need to decide if I should buy the ND kit or a PS5.
Wow, those are VERY different choices! The PS5 looks sweet, but the ND kit will let you create rather than consume. 😉
@@tombuck Just purchased the kit. The idea to make'em work for the PS5, that way I can have both.
Smart plan!
They should make one with 3-7 stops
I wonder if that’d be possible without getting an x pattern?
I already sub your channel.
Last week I watch " 16-35 f4 vs 16-35 f2.8 lll " in your channel, and now I already buy 16-35 f4 is
Today I watch this video, I think tomorrow I will spend money $299.99. I'm sure hahahaha
Haha, hopefully the tools are useful and within your budget 😬
@@tombuck I need to say " Thank a lot brother, your video are very useful for me and other "
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Atleast the cheap filter catch Ufo in the sky 😀👍
Yeah a 2-5 stopper is useless in daylight in a country with a reasonable amount of daylight. I don't know why people recommend them for daylight use. I've only ever found an ND5 useful in late afternoon or early morning sunlight. If you're going to shoot in the middle of the day you need the 5-11 stopper.
You barely have 17k subs but they gave you a free filter? Wut.
PolarPro is really good about supporting creators. 👍
@@tombuck 2-5 is fine for f4 yeah
Yeah, it works great.