Jenkins talking about milliseconds, science and psychological warfare with hooks when really the easy thing to do is just skill attributes and forget about the signature ability
I watched a Dendi stream and he picked Pudge for mid. He absolutely annihilated his enemies and when the enemies ancient fell, he said, "Way too ez. Pudge is way too ez. If I only picked pudge I'd be 15K mmr." Dendi is still a Dota god.
what immortal do or can do does not mean it will work in low mmr and i am talking about from ancient and below. also you should be a good pudge player to even try it
ok , step 1) pick pudge step 2) "wtf pudge banned??" step 3) its ok I'll play my usual heros , then we shall see that in next game step 4) queue again, "wtf pudge banned again" (repeats the cycle thereafter)
as a behaviorist I agree with Jenkins since it still kinda behaves like a whale even though it's just a giant a fish. It reminded me of my turtle who acted like a dog
ive quit dota 7 years ago. i still remember in Dota 1, pudge was a great carry. you buy heart on him and he is unkillable. and i still remembered Ursa with 6 hearts can easily destroy the fountain
Great way to lane! And great analysis but what about the fact that pudge has a cast animation that the sniper might see before even deciding to change direction? I think of the hook as a quantum object at that point.
The best tip to hit a long hook is to fake (stop animation) and watch what player does. He usually start zigzaging and also lose some distance then you wait for his next turning to start and then shoot slightly ahead of him.
Never played dota 2 in my life cuz i'm a dumb lol player who can't play games that are deep as dota 2 ( like wtf man, you're shop system looks so insane ! ) But idk why I keep watching ur video and I love them !
Flesh heaps with Eternal Shroud makes it feel very unfair. The spell steal from Rot in team fights is ridiculous and Pudge already has insane amounts of HP even without Heart.
Dude.. ur vids are rly fucken good. Like wWAY better than when I was watching some of ur stuff 4 years ago. These are awesome to watch! Love that u found this niche.
I still think Carry Pudge still has its merits nowadays. For one a high tempo tower busting lineup with a Pudge carry can absolutely mop the floor against a Naga or PL carry if he gets his Aghs early enough. He absolutely needs the mid and offlane to offset his weaknesses though(lack of physical damage needed for taking down buildings).
a bit late but the most satisfying trick i do with pudge when players are on a choke point is when they try to dodge your hooks, you can just keep on faking it until you get near them then just dismember them :D
I've been a pudge player a very long time so I know his limits. As a 3 its typically phase boots into either hood/vanguard-blink-aghs. That's the typical order. In lower mmr around 4k and below I can skip the blink and rush aghs. Players are less active and you can get away with farming. At 5k and up I had to make space and actually play the role as a 3. So blink is usually mandatory... keep in mind I always first phased picked. I was countered by Ursa's, lifestealer, etc. You also need a real pos 4. If get some ass mirana player or something your lane might be screwed.
in my bracket, Pudge is either banned or banned due to double pick. You can never reliably pick pudge. Once it took me 20 games before i can pick pudge.
Your contents are always top-notch and abundant with valuable knowledge jenkins. I would like you to make a video about reliable and unreliable gold and how to manage the gold, when to save buybacks, when to buy major items without saving buybacks. If you already have a video about them, please direct me a link. Thank you a lot Jenkins.
Back in the day in WC3 Dota, when allies could actually purchase items for each other Pudge and Leoric were the N1 most broken heroes. The team just buys hearths for Pudge and the game was over, nothing could kill him.
I have to disagree with your hook method. The best way to get a long hook with an Aether Lens is to narrow the enemies pathing. Let's assume you shoot a hook and the enemy can go in any direction ... you don't want that. The best way to land hooks is when the player is limited with escape options do to trees, buildings, and body blocking. We all want to hook that squishy Sniper in the backline, it's super satisfying.
Jenkins thank you i played 2 times with this strat and got 2 wins, in both games aghs by the min 15 Update JENKINS THAN YOU I LOVE YOU!!! I WENT ON A 25 WINSTREAK WITH PUDGE RAISED MY RANK FROM HERALD 2 ALL THE WAY UP TO GUARDIAN 3
I feel like pudge is sort of a feel hero where you need a lot of games on pudge to play pudge well as someone who has a couple hundred pudge games but maybe that’s not true anymore plus it’s probably the best time to learn how to play pudge If you’ve never played it while it’s so good
Bro, Jenks, I don't even watch Dota 2 any more, but still watch your channel. Please tell us what Aghs does on the hero, if it is so important. Assume we know not one thing about Dota 2. Thanks
Hey Jenkins, can you do an experiment man? Can we check if having communication while you play, chat and voice, is something that help.. I truly believe that doesn't. Reasons, the fact you can ask something from someone distract you from focusing in the map, some times you don't even read the chat even if someone says "miss" and you are ready to toxic reply. Two, you are not creating that unique bond.. that we all have, to be a base player and know what we have to do. And last, ask is miss"inteliggent situation, as long you play with a group, to be really good, you need to be knowing everything that can be happen. Ty
You can tell Jenkins is total trash with pudge - to consistently score hooks you need to fake it and use the stop button...
I CANT SEE WHY NOT
What's the stop button
@@dazdoukas check in settings. In default is F
@@dazdoukas what ... how you lh without stop button
@@jimlahey6692 timing.
1st - you pick Pudge
2nd - enemy team also picks Pudge
Repeat 10+ times
i miss times when you just can pick hero what you want
good. Pudge sucks to play with, and he sucks to play against.
Pudge Wars?
i have acheieved a single game of pudge within 22 games exactly, next turn so far 15. facts
So true, once I couldn’t play him entire day cos enemy picked him as well or banned :D
Jenkins talking about milliseconds, science and psychological warfare with hooks when really the easy thing to do is just skill attributes and forget about the signature ability
You ever saw a full slotted pudge die to a viper because he missed a hook? No? Then play more pudge and learn about the hook
@@hegeliansours1312 u r stupid to be picking pudge in a viper game..
u put urself in that situation deservedly so
@@hegeliansours1312 That only happens if your bad, real pro players don't need hook
@@hegeliansours1312 u ok my dude
@@hegeliansours1312 being you is rough
Jenkins's attempt justifying his loss streak on pudge goes as far as paying for a Dendi cameo.
What? Man, are you crazy?
I watched a Dendi stream and he picked Pudge for mid. He absolutely annihilated his enemies and when the enemies ancient fell, he said, "Way too ez. Pudge is way too ez. If I only picked pudge I'd be 15K mmr." Dendi is still a Dota god.
8:52 "In fights, think about yourself as those whales"
Shows a shark
To be fair, he said that he doesn't know anything about biology
@@vexaris1890 and it's a whale shark
This guy always makes me feed...so pudge carry it is, lets do it!!
EDIT: just went 0-12
💀💀
what immortal do or can do does not mean it will work in low mmr and i am talking about from ancient and below. also you should be a good pudge player to even try it
@@abdulellahaAls I am a crusader and my best hero is core pudge lol. It all just depends, some people find certain heroes easier to learn I guess
@@PizzaManager101 yeah true but also your team affect how you play the hero.
Maybe ur good and ur team dont know how to play with pudge
I have never played Pudge but I will start spamming it from now on, road to Herald begins
ok , step 1) pick pudge
step 2) "wtf pudge banned??"
step 3) its ok I'll play my usual heros , then we shall see that in next game
step 4) queue again, "wtf pudge banned again"
(repeats the cycle thereafter)
This happens nearly every game Jenkins streams :(
Legend says if you ban the hero yourself it wouldn't be Banned
This is thanks to retardeds trying to pick the hero in shitty roles
I have a feeling centaur carry might be good. But I don't want to get banned for now.
Used to be. Not anymore.
It's not good
hum no... centaur is not even good as an offlaner anymore
How is leshrac carry?
@@geoDB. too bad. Cause now is BKB era.
As a biologist, I had a mild aneurism when you called the whale shark a whale
Bro it’s called a WHALE shark. Smh these fake biologists man
i studied biology for like 3 months and i wanted to write same comment
as a behaviorist I agree with Jenkins since it still kinda behaves like a whale even though it's just a giant a fish. It reminded me of my turtle who acted like a dog
@@GurneroMaelstrom 💀
Yeh, lol, its obviously a fish
ive quit dota 7 years ago. i still remember in Dota 1, pudge was a great carry. you buy heart on him and he is unkillable. and i still remembered Ursa with 6 hearts can easily destroy the fountain
"Protect your little fishes you big fat whale" you killed me on that one Jenkins lmao
I hate this game now, but I will always watch your videos 😄
Learned so much things I missed in class, thanks Jenkins.
As a trained marine biologist, that comparison hurt my brain
Ahh yes, Jenkins heavily influencing the pubs in the weeks to come.
The RuneScape hit splat and Sea Shantay 2 are good touches lol
I loved the biology class, thx Jen. You're way better than my teachers back in middle school
Ahhhh dota 2 reporter. I loved that show so much. Thanks for using clips from that jenkins
I don't know if anyone noticed this but props for adding clips from Dota 2 Report. God, it's been so long since I saw clips of those.
His magic reduction was fine, now he needs to be totally reworked.
Good job Jenkins
Great way to lane! And great analysis but what about the fact that pudge has a cast animation that the sniper might see before even deciding to change direction? I think of the hook as a quantum object at that point.
that s why you purchase smoke or stay in the fog to hook properly (i play mirana as my main, so i know her animation is even more slower)
Give me steam wallet code please
The video turned from history class to mathmatics class into biology class and last but not least phelosophy , what a beautiful content😍😍
Love the Runescape ref and music
Thank you Jenkins for keeping Dota interesting
The best tip to hit a long hook is to fake (stop animation) and watch what player does. He usually start zigzaging and also lose some distance then you wait for his next turning to start and then shoot slightly ahead of him.
i see the title,i see the thumbnail and i aint even surprised its Jenkins
I’ve heard Crystal Maiden 6 bracers is the new carry strat.
1 have 600 pudge game and this tips was extremely accurate. In higher rank, the hook is literally mind game, sometimes they dogdge sometimes they dont
The opening clip of Loda whining is great.
These videos always have a stellar editing. Just absolutely flawless 👌
Your editing is getting better and better. Love it
Never played dota 2 in my life cuz i'm a dumb lol player who can't play games that are deep as dota 2 ( like wtf man, you're shop system looks so insane ! )
But idk why I keep watching ur video and I love them !
Thanks Jenkins 👍 I have now been added to 45 avoid lists since watching this video
Oh boy i miss dota alot , haven't played since my laptop died , your videos feels like HOME
jenkins, what lvl are you on runescape? I noticed the hitsplats and music is all from runescape!
Flesh heaps with Eternal Shroud makes it feel very unfair. The spell steal from Rot in team fights is ridiculous and Pudge already has insane amounts of HP even without Heart.
A shame theres nothing in the game that counters it
@@EthVortexShield try necrophos. ty.
@@purgatorydota you're welcome
@@EthVortexShield probably a mixture of shivas, vessel, skadis and desos or cuirass
wronchi animation reference actually just made my whole day wtf
The greatest jenkins video purely because of the music. IYKYK.
That's awesome, now I just need a tip for Pudge not getting banned
Play bot match:)
"like a pathetic antimage" had me on the ground
Dude.. ur vids are rly fucken good. Like wWAY better than when I was watching some of ur stuff 4 years ago. These are awesome to watch! Love that u found this niche.
Pudge trick, u can hook io at the 1 after io relocates to save that juicy blue ball from death
Jenkins I love this video bro! Your new content is so good ! been withy ou for years
Watching this tutorial changes everything for me I'm winning and understanding the game better thanks man for this tutorial ❤😂
Russians who have been using Carry Pudge for years:I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you
OMG that clip from dota 2 reporter (pudge deny against invoker)
Brings back memories
I still think Carry Pudge still has its merits nowadays. For one a high tempo tower busting lineup with a Pudge carry can absolutely mop the floor against a Naga or PL carry if he gets his Aghs early enough. He absolutely needs the mid and offlane to offset his weaknesses though(lack of physical damage needed for taking down buildings).
This hero also has a TINY bit of extra melee range. it's not much but it helps the lane a bit
very easy to last hit.
a bit late but the most satisfying trick i do with pudge when players are on a choke point is when they try to dodge your hooks, you can just keep on faking it until you get near them then just dismember them :D
Love the runescape stuff you put in
0:40 got confused with the music. I thought there was a bumpaah video ending in one of my tabs lol
This coincidence it's just crazy, you uploaded a video of my favourite hero on my birthday ^^
Remember when Jenkins talkshit about flesh heap resistance? Now he is like " use it " OMG it is so good
Wow Jenkins. You have been missed. Thank you for the dank tips.
So dank Rafa.
@@breakingthegrain3425 aayyyy
That RuneScape sound at 3:31 ❤️❤️
This must be the video that our carry had watched. His pudge is next to a dogshit going 0-12
Ame showed us how it was done in the final :)
oohh that runescape soundtrack 8:20 lovely
Man I love seeing the old Wronchi animations. Those were some good days back then...
Thank you jenkins, finally we heralds rise up to ranks
I love that, for all the whales you could possibly show, you choose a shark instead
That backwards hook is the funniest shit I've ever seen in my life
let's re-calculate the hook formula accounting the cast point and average ping of 70ms
I made it to immortal this patch primarily playing pudge as a 3. Ranked winrate with him is about 85%. I'm sure this will drop the higher I go.
what is your skill and item progress?
I've been a pudge player a very long time so I know his limits. As a 3 its typically phase boots into either hood/vanguard-blink-aghs. That's the typical order. In lower mmr around 4k and below I can skip the blink and rush aghs. Players are less active and you can get away with farming. At 5k and up I had to make space and actually play the role as a 3. So blink is usually mandatory... keep in mind I always first phased picked. I was countered by Ursa's, lifestealer, etc. You also need a real pos 4. If get some ass mirana player or something your lane might be screwed.
Items afterwards vary depending on the game. It's usually BKB then enternal shroud/AC/Shivas/sheepstick... whatever you feel is necessary.
probably the best sponsored segment ive seen
Nice to see Pudge is back to competitive dota 2 again.
Not going to lie... as soon as sea shanty came on his voice fadded to the background...
in my bracket, Pudge is either banned or banned due to double pick. You can never reliably pick pudge. Once it took me 20 games before i can pick pudge.
Me watching a dota tutorial on an outdated patch after not playing for 9 years: "Wow so true"
Your contents are always top-notch and abundant with valuable knowledge jenkins.
I would like you to make a video about reliable and unreliable gold and how to manage the gold, when to save buybacks, when to buy major items without saving buybacks.
If you already have a video about them, please direct me a link.
Thank you a lot Jenkins.
I just use Jenkins' terminologies and my team and enemy gets pissed 😂😂🤣🤣📈📈 *STONKZ*
oracle aghs counters pudges rot pretty well, since it got buffed and rot slightly nerfed. it still rly hard to play against
The runescape music at 8:13 got me
Back in the day in WC3 Dota, when allies could actually purchase items for each other Pudge and Leoric were the N1 most broken heroes. The team just buys hearths for Pudge and the game was over, nothing could kill him.
yea heart was broken as fuck, regen never stoped xD in some scenarios you were unkillable lmao
Nice to see Wronchi references in current year.
You just earned another subscriber bro, very nice tips 👌
I have to disagree with your hook method. The best way to get a long hook with an Aether Lens is to narrow the enemies pathing. Let's assume you shoot a hook and the enemy can go in any direction ... you don't want that. The best way to land hooks is when the player is limited with escape options do to trees, buildings, and body blocking. We all want to hook that squishy Sniper in the backline, it's super satisfying.
And they called me crazy, well look who's laughing now!
The dota 2 reporter clips make me so happy
Only a few mins in... That golden god clip of Dennis... xd hahah
I was kind of listening to the milisecond math for a minute then i realized i was being stupid
Thank you jenkins, now there is pudge everywhere.
Jenkins thank you i played 2 times with this strat and got 2 wins, in both games aghs by the min 15
Update
JENKINS THAN YOU I LOVE YOU!!!
I WENT ON A 25 WINSTREAK WITH PUDGE RAISED MY RANK FROM HERALD 2 ALL THE WAY UP TO GUARDIAN 3
Best carry this patch is bristle back with a fast aghs just don’t feed them to the point they get silver edge
That is some superb editting right there
I feel like pudge is sort of a feel hero where you need a lot of games on pudge to play pudge well as someone who has a couple hundred pudge games but maybe that’s not true anymore plus it’s probably the best time to learn how to play pudge If you’ve never played it while it’s so good
Amazing production value!
Pudge carry can work if the enemy carry is also dumb enough to pick sniper
I see lots of sniper pickers always think they are dumb
Its amazing to me that the dota reporter is still as influential as it js
For late game item i think kaya sange is better than shiva because it gives you stats spell damage and lifesteal/heal amplification
Is that music from Space Warlord Organ Trading Simulator I hear? An editor of culture, I see.
Did they made default regen biger after updsting the old pasive and thats kinda why pros play him now?
Sneaky sea shanty 2 at 8 mins in you made this scaping dota player happy
Bruh I like the RuneScape meme’s u even got the sea shanty song. xD
Bro, Jenks, I don't even watch Dota 2 any more, but still watch your channel. Please tell us what Aghs does on the hero, if it is so important. Assume we know not one thing about Dota 2. Thanks
Ugh, the pudge picking at 1.5k has gone up 200% since this video posted. Thanks for that, Jenkins...
Lol I love how abruptly the video ended.
I used to be a mid lane pudge when i still crusader 7 untill ancient 2,thats long ago,but maybe this time i will try this.
Hey Jenkins, can you do an experiment man? Can we check if having communication while you play, chat and voice, is something that help.. I truly believe that doesn't. Reasons, the fact you can ask something from someone distract you from focusing in the map, some times you don't even read the chat even if someone says "miss" and you are ready to toxic reply. Two, you are not creating that unique bond.. that we all have, to be a base player and know what we have to do. And last, ask is miss"inteliggent situation, as long you play with a group, to be really good, you need to be knowing everything that can be happen. Ty