The price of petrol and diesel varies extremely much, depending on where and when you fill up. It's cheapest early in the day and more expensive in the afternoon. I have seen quite recently prices rising from NOK 16,90 to 22-23 at the same filling station from morning to afternoon on the same day in the Oslo and Østfold area. Close to my home the price on the sign increased by NOK 5,00 during the seconds it took to drive past. A very nice tactic, after driving a whole day you obviously need to fill up. So be aware, there are money to be saved!
Totally agree (so far, 8 mins in)... Road surfaces are generally good, but the main roads are all stripped and resurfaced ar regular intervals, rather than letting multiple patches build up from repairs. Fuel prices can vary VERY quickly. (also which costs more varies a bit too), Thurs evening I paid 17.40kr/L for petrol, Fri morning it was 17,90, and at 12 noon the reset from the oil company sent it back over 23kr. Tip, if you see it cheap, refuel before 12, that's when it goes up. (Misjudged it before, saw it cheap, did a 10 min job, drove back around at 12:05, price had gone up over 5kr/L /40p currently) Yep speeding ticket are expensive, BUT, they are also fixed, If the speed limiit is 80km/h 11-15km/h over will cost you 5050kr, so 400 squids, at 116km/h your licence goes, and if foreign, you then lose the right to drive un Norway for that period of time. For EV charging, based around Stavanger I'm rarely more than 25km from a 50KW minimum charger, and these are rapidly being upgraded to 150 or 300KW chargers. If you bring your own car over, you can pre-register the car reg plate and a credit card number and the tolls are then auto-charged as you pass them.
Good video but not sure that renting a hybrid was the best choice in Norway. Always get an EV if available. I don't live in Norway but drive my EV there a couple of times a year. I've found that cost per kWh (for fast charging) is very reasonable in Norway and is readily available. No way that driving an ICE car (including hybrids) can compete. Historically driving an EV got a huge discount on toll roads. Less so today but still a significant difference over ICE. Not sure if hybrids enjoy the same discount as pure EV's. Maybe someone else knows. Nice road trip, beautiful country, next time get an EV and save some money.
I suppose potholes depends on how much the roads are fixed... or prooritised ... in areas with lots of people iti s more prioritsed while in places with less traffic it is less. Here at our place even the potholes have potholes.... and in many ways the roads are better wintertime with the snow covering the holes... 😛
As one of the coldest Scandinavian Countries, with roads frequently closed from snow during winter, I do wonder why Norwegians like EVs so much, as I remember batteries become so much less efficient during the cold. I have a Diesel Heater installed in my Danish Diesel car, for safe starts and clean windows during winter! I can't imagine how much it costs to clean a car from snow and ice before starting in the morning, if only an electric heater inside? Finn. Denmark
As a Norwegian owning an EV, I don’t really see this as a problem. Yes, you drain your batteries a bit quicker, but it’s not dramatic. The cost isn’t bad, as even if our energy prices have spiked the last few years, it’s still at a very low level comparably. In many ways I feel my winters are easier now that I drive an EV. It’s not like ICE cars are unaffected by cold weather - fuel consumption increases, engine gets cranky, cabin heating is slow.
In cities there is no problem, but once you live in the boonies like I do .. up in the far north, if you want to drive to nearest city for some shopping that takes 4 hours driving each way, and it is more than an hour over a mountain pass to get to the first recharger so you better hope you don't get stuck on the mountain for sure. I did hear a story about a couple of guys who where suppose to drive to neighbour town that is about 130 km from here, they had to turn around before half way because they would not have enough power to reach the recharger... Also some politicians a while ago drove a Tesla from the west side of Finnmark to the East side (From Lakselv to Kirkenes) to some meeting, they had just about enough power to reach the meeting, but they could not recharge it fast enough so they had to stop somewhere in the middle at a friends house to borrow the charger a little, they also had to not use any power on heating, music and stuff like that... did I mention it was winter ? 😛 the end of story was that these politicians said it should be illegal with electric cars at the winter up here in the north. We do have several people here with EV's but some are hybrids tough.
Some comments: Driving in Norway not difficult, at least not in the summer, and even if many roads are narrow and steep, Norwegian roads are among the safest in the world. Maybe because of moderate speeds and very strict licensing laws. Regarding fines, I’ve been driving for 40 years without any fines, except for a few parking tickets. But be careful. Even moderate speeding can be costly when enforced (you will never be stopped by civilian police car for doing 115 in a 110 zone on a motorway, but radars can be ruthless, especially in urban areas). Never use a hand held phone, drive on red, fail to stop for pedestrians at crossing etc. Fines will be from around GBP 800. Never drink and drive, legal limit is only 0,2 and fines are from GBP 800 (if lucky) and upwards, according to income. Typically one month salary. And you will loose your license. Above 0,5, expect prison as well. Tolls can be steep in some areas, especially along the western coast and near big cities. Less and less the further north you drive. Toll roads, bridges and most ferries are paid via the national Autopass system. The fees will be withdrawn from your credit card by the rental car company. Foreign cars can be charged as well, but you may very well get away because of some non-implemented EU/EEA-rules. And yes, you need proper, nordic style winter tires late autumn, winter and early spring, as well as very good drivings skills when the conditions are bad. Regarding estimation of driving hours, google maps is quite accurate. A good rule of thumb is an average of 60 km/hour on most roads except for motorways. A bit faster inland and up north, even a bit slower around the coast. Take your time and enjoy. BTW, if you drive a camper van or haul a caravan: PLEASE just help people pass you! Every summer, every day, on every road, these vehicles create long queues, provoking dangerous passings and a lot of anger.
@@GeorgeAusters They were crazy high for decades, but not really anymore. Except the last year maybe. But EV's are somewhat cheap compared to ICE cars.
@@GeorgeAusters They have been crazy high due to the heavy taxes subjected to cars. Exception have been the ev's that have actually been a lot cheaper here than many other countries..
Why no potholes in the road? Maybe the road tax is a lot higher there than in the UK? Road tax i really dirt cheap in the UK.. f.e. In NL expect to pay 2000 euros a year on road tax for a modern diesel family car..
Toll roads are a medieval style of taxation of freedom of movement. It's sick. So if a assistant nurse with a loan want to take a 700km trip to her friend, she needs to pay 100 pounds in toll roads. That is serious money on top of massively taxed fuel. Collective transport? A train maybe? Forget it.. Toll have nothing to do with the quality of the roads.
@@GeorgeAusters I'm surprised they were better! But in the Oslo area only 2% of road tolls go to roads and the remaining 1+ billion pounds go to other things like the subway. The quality of the tarmac in the eastern part is pretty good on the common roads, but they are small and slow despite the amount of traffic.
U holding your steering wheel wrong when its snow... 90 percent of norwegians hold 5 to 7 grip when its icy.. 9 to 3 holding is only used when its alot of snow in roads... Trust me, alot of drivers in Norway crash on straigh road because they have 9 to 3 grip. Their cars start to wobbling.
"I don't want to waste time charging" then stops to take in the pretty views 200 meters from a huge Tesla charging station... There are charging stations *everywhere* now... most of them have facilities for food and other needs. All modern electric cars can charge 2-300 kms in 10 to 20 minutes - enough range to get to your next potty or food break. When driving in Norway, range anxiety is a thing of the past.
Yes I will give it to Norway.. The charging infrastructure is MUCH better than the UK.. The UK on the whole is like a 3rd world country in comparison to Norway😅
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The price of petrol and diesel varies extremely much, depending on where and when you fill up. It's cheapest early in the day and more expensive in the afternoon. I have seen quite recently prices rising from NOK 16,90 to 22-23 at the same filling station from morning to afternoon on the same day in the Oslo and Østfold area. Close to my home the price on the sign increased by NOK 5,00 during the seconds it took to drive past. A very nice tactic, after driving a whole day you obviously need to fill up. So be aware, there are money to be saved!
Totally agree (so far, 8 mins in)... Road surfaces are generally good, but the main roads are all stripped and resurfaced ar regular intervals, rather than letting multiple patches build up from repairs.
Fuel prices can vary VERY quickly. (also which costs more varies a bit too), Thurs evening I paid 17.40kr/L for petrol, Fri morning it was 17,90, and at 12 noon the reset from the oil company sent it back over 23kr. Tip, if you see it cheap, refuel before 12, that's when it goes up. (Misjudged it before, saw it cheap, did a 10 min job, drove back around at 12:05, price had gone up over 5kr/L /40p currently)
Yep speeding ticket are expensive, BUT, they are also fixed, If the speed limiit is 80km/h 11-15km/h over will cost you 5050kr, so 400 squids, at 116km/h your licence goes, and if foreign, you then lose the right to drive un Norway for that period of time.
For EV charging, based around Stavanger I'm rarely more than 25km from a 50KW minimum charger, and these are rapidly being upgraded to 150 or 300KW chargers.
If you bring your own car over, you can pre-register the car reg plate and a credit card number and the tolls are then auto-charged as you pass them.
That makes sense.. They need to strip roads in the UK rather than repairing them poorly every month
Enjoy your trip George 👍
Thanks Paul, yes we're back now!
Heading over in Feb, great information, thank you :-)
Have the best time! You’re welcome.
Good video but not sure that renting a hybrid was the best choice in Norway. Always get an EV if available. I don't live in Norway but drive my EV there a couple of times a year. I've found that cost per kWh (for fast charging) is very reasonable in Norway and is readily available. No way that driving an ICE car (including hybrids) can compete. Historically driving an EV got a huge discount on toll roads. Less so today but still a significant difference over ICE. Not sure if hybrids enjoy the same discount as pure EV's. Maybe someone else knows. Nice road trip, beautiful country, next time get an EV and save some money.
I suppose potholes depends on how much the roads are fixed... or prooritised ... in areas with lots of people iti s more prioritsed while in places with less traffic it is less. Here at our place even the potholes have potholes.... and in many ways the roads are better wintertime with the snow covering the holes... 😛
As one of the coldest Scandinavian Countries, with roads frequently closed from snow during winter, I do wonder why Norwegians like EVs so much, as I remember batteries become so much less efficient during the cold. I have a Diesel Heater installed in my Danish Diesel car, for safe starts and clean windows during winter! I can't imagine how much it costs to clean a car from snow and ice before starting in the morning, if only an electric heater inside? Finn. Denmark
As a Norwegian owning an EV, I don’t really see this as a problem. Yes, you drain your batteries a bit quicker, but it’s not dramatic. The cost isn’t bad, as even if our energy prices have spiked the last few years, it’s still at a very low level comparably. In many ways I feel my winters are easier now that I drive an EV. It’s not like ICE cars are unaffected by cold weather - fuel consumption increases, engine gets cranky, cabin heating is slow.
In cities there is no problem, but once you live in the boonies like I do .. up in the far north, if you want to drive to nearest city for some shopping that takes 4 hours driving each way, and it is more than an hour over a mountain pass to get to the first recharger so you better hope you don't get stuck on the mountain for sure. I did hear a story about a couple of guys who where suppose to drive to neighbour town that is about 130 km from here, they had to turn around before half way because they would not have enough power to reach the recharger... Also some politicians a while ago drove a Tesla from the west side of Finnmark to the East side (From Lakselv to Kirkenes) to some meeting, they had just about enough power to reach the meeting, but they could not recharge it fast enough so they had to stop somewhere in the middle at a friends house to borrow the charger a little, they also had to not use any power on heating, music and stuff like that... did I mention it was winter ? 😛 the end of story was that these politicians said it should be illegal with electric cars at the winter up here in the north.
We do have several people here with EV's but some are hybrids tough.
Some comments: Driving in Norway not difficult, at least not in the summer, and even if many roads are narrow and steep, Norwegian roads are among the safest in the world. Maybe because of moderate speeds and very strict licensing laws. Regarding fines, I’ve been driving for 40 years without any fines, except for a few parking tickets. But be careful. Even moderate speeding can be costly when enforced (you will never be stopped by civilian police car for doing 115 in a 110 zone on a motorway, but radars can be ruthless, especially in urban areas). Never use a hand held phone, drive on red, fail to stop for pedestrians at crossing etc. Fines will be from around GBP 800. Never drink and drive, legal limit is only 0,2 and fines are from GBP 800 (if lucky) and upwards, according to income. Typically one month salary. And you will loose your license. Above 0,5, expect prison as well. Tolls can be steep in some areas, especially along the western coast and near big cities. Less and less the further north you drive. Toll roads, bridges and most ferries are paid via the national Autopass system. The fees will be withdrawn from your credit card by the rental car company. Foreign cars can be charged as well, but you may very well get away because of some non-implemented EU/EEA-rules. And yes, you need proper, nordic style winter tires late autumn, winter and early spring, as well as very good drivings skills when the conditions are bad. Regarding estimation of driving hours, google maps is quite accurate. A good rule of thumb is an average of 60 km/hour on most roads except for motorways. A bit faster inland and up north, even a bit slower around the coast. Take your time and enjoy. BTW, if you drive a camper van or haul a caravan: PLEASE just help people pass you! Every summer, every day, on every road, these vehicles create long queues, provoking dangerous passings and a lot of anger.
Well said! Some good points there👌🏻
Which Toyota is it that you are driving in this video?
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hey, cool that you came here to Norway. Did you check out the car prices here?
No I didn't.. Are they crazy high?
@@GeorgeAusters They were crazy high for decades, but not really anymore. Except the last year maybe. But EV's are somewhat cheap compared to ICE cars.
@@mcplutt Interesting.. EV's are much more expensive compared to ICE cars in the UK
@@GeorgeAusters In Norway EV's had no tax and VAT until 2023. Now they are slowly adding some tax and VAT to the most expensive EV models.
@@GeorgeAusters They have been crazy high due to the heavy taxes subjected to cars. Exception have been the ev's that have actually been a lot cheaper here than many other countries..
Nice vid man. I am from Trondheim norway. Did you like it?
Loved Norway!
Why no potholes in the road? Maybe the road tax is a lot higher there than in the UK?
Road tax i really dirt cheap in the UK.. f.e. In NL expect to pay 2000 euros a year on road tax for a modern diesel family car..
The thing is, it’s not actually road tax in the UK now.. it’s car tax which is really messed up how it’s priced
Fair assumption but the road tolls go to everything BUT improving the roads!
Toll roads are a medieval style of taxation of freedom of movement. It's sick. So if a assistant nurse with a loan want to take a 700km trip to her friend, she needs to pay 100 pounds in toll roads. That is serious money on top of massively taxed fuel. Collective transport? A train maybe? Forget it..
Toll have nothing to do with the quality of the roads.
What do you think makes the roads much better then?
@@GeorgeAusters I'm surprised they were better! But in the Oslo area only 2% of road tolls go to roads and the remaining 1+ billion pounds go to other things like the subway.
The quality of the tarmac in the eastern part is pretty good on the common roads, but they are small and slow despite the amount of traffic.
U holding your steering wheel wrong when its snow... 90 percent of norwegians hold 5 to 7 grip when its icy.. 9 to 3 holding is only used when its alot of snow in roads... Trust me, alot of drivers in Norway crash on straigh road because they have 9 to 3 grip. Their cars start to wobbling.
you would get ticketed for that parking also xD
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Hello Juan!
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me gusta tus videos un saludo
Appreciate it buddy!
"I don't want to waste time charging" then stops to take in the pretty views 200 meters from a huge Tesla charging station... There are charging stations *everywhere* now... most of them have facilities for food and other needs. All modern electric cars can charge 2-300 kms in 10 to 20 minutes - enough range to get to your next potty or food break. When driving in Norway, range anxiety is a thing of the past.
Yes I will give it to Norway.. The charging infrastructure is MUCH better than the UK..
The UK on the whole is like a 3rd world country in comparison to Norway😅
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