Billy Gives Vogelbaum an Ultimatum | The Boys (Karl Urban, John Doman)
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2023
- Billy (Karl Urban) convinces his way into Vogelbaum's (John Doman) manor. Vogelbaum reveals that Homelander (Antony Starr) was a sweet boy at a young age and admits he made Homelander the way he is for his own sake.
Season 2, Episode 7: Butcher, Baker, Candlestick Maker
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Superheroes are often as popular as celebrities, as influential as politicians, and sometimes even as revered as gods. But that's when they're using their powers for good. What happens when the heroes go rogue and start abusing their powers? When it's the powerless against the super powerful, the Boys head out on a heroic quest to expose the truth about the Seven and Vought, the multibillion-dollar conglomerate that manages the superheroes and covers up their dirty secrets. Based on the comic book series of the same name.
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As much as Butcher loathes Homelander, I’m sure he’s transferred his hate to this guy due to the “toughening up his child” sympathy.
There is a part of me that thinks butcher is thinking about his own father during that moment.
@@Minervastouchvery good point.
I do wonder if Butcher genuinely hated Homelander less after this meeting. I think the most telling part of the whole conversation is "He didn't even want it." The thing that defines EVERYTHING Homelander has done (except for trying to be in Ryan's life) has been because he is desperate for attention, to be seen as the most powerful being to ever exist. And he didn't even want it. He was told by an abusive father figure who literally tortured him, THAT is who is supposed to be. To quote a different movie, Homelander's just a mad dog. Sure, he needs to be put down, but Vogelbaum is the one who drove him mad and he's the one who let him off the leash.
Plus going on a bit of a tangent, but there's no chance Vought just hands Soldier Boy, at the time their most prized asset, over to the Russian government. No. That was the cover. The fact that the Russians had enough Compound V to bother experimenting on a hamster with it shows they had enough to create supe soldiers, but there's been no sign of them. The facility SB was kept in may have been in Russia, but Vought owned it. And that means Vogelbaum, the entire time, knew a way to neutralise Homelander's powers through a mix of Compound V and radiation, given SB's new powers.
He could have spared the world, instead he put SB on ice and never made another supe that could remove powers.
@@wafflingmean4477 Well said.
@@dayjay_alldj7940welp said.
1:14 This was was probably the only time Butcher had any sympathy for Homelander and his face pretty much says “What did you do to that boy that made him turn out like he his today”
I'm sure that knowledge instantly made him hate the doctor even more. Homelander is monstrous, but Vogelbaum is arguably worse.
it also reminded him of his childhood... Homelander and Billy really aren't so different, both had childhoods stolen from men more powerful than them
It's been a while since I watched - doesn't it turn out he was lying about that?
@@98loud sitting there, billy realized he was just like him
@@ninjaguyYT no what you’re thinking of is how he lied about Rebecca and Homelander’s baby dying during childbirth
Like how he just drives across the lawn no fucks given
He doesn’t drive tho
why would you say something so stupid@@Troyy22
@@jansebastianbach1004 from my point of view your the one who said something stupid
I didn't even notice that! That's hilarious. Very spot on for Butcher's character.
@@Troyy22"THEN YOU ARE LOST!!!"
-Obi-Wan Kenobi
You've got to give it up for how dark Karl Urban can act.
well, he was Judge Dredd... you need an uber chad level to lift that...
Remember how he was in Chronicles Of Riddick 😎
Doom guy too
@@WeAllPlayBallthat was Vindy Sull.
@@ninjaguyYT Nah, Vin Diesel was Riddick, but in that same movie Karl Urban played Vaako.
3:08 "how can you be so--"
Barely a blip on the radar right? Crazy how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot
I was really waiting for Billy to respond with: 'Cruel? I don't know, doc. Why don't you tell me? The blood on my hands is nothing but a bucket compared to the ocean you have on yours.'
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Butcher not responding in that way and just going straight to threats is a more realistic reaction. This guy is like anti Oppenheimer, he didn't EVEN consider how many thousands Homelander was going on hurt. If Butcher went with that line, he knows it wouldn't get to doc at all.
Karl Urban is the only actor that can sip tea *menacingly*
The entire UK has entered the Chat
GOD SAVE THE KING!
"How can you be. . ." What? You can't go around creating threats to humanity and stepping on the lives of thousands if not millions and then be surprised at the horrors that come out of the holes you made. This man forces upon the world one of the worst catastrophes known and gets appalled at the reckoning. . .
beautifully put together 👌
Tbf his nonchalance put him in that chair.
I mean he had a job to do it’s not like he made the call and regardless, if it was him or not it would’ve been someone else creating something like homelander would’ve happened regardless
@@jonathanoloba7791 Excuses don't preclude repercussions, we're ultimately responsible for our actions, when our actions are forced by someone that someone should too be judged, but our actions are our own and the classic of "someone else would have done it" just has no value as an argument.
@@mattbas-vi7750 I mean someone would’ve done it look at home, landers, father, like they clearly have done it before him He was just the final product and the doctor was just contracted to do so it’s a job it’s a business, and like I said if it would’ve happened regardless of whom it was y blame the if the man like if a plane is going to explode, regardless of who is flying it Why blame the pilot for when it explodes it was inevitable
i'carn'ra'memba' the last time.. i had a good cuppa'char
I cup of Columbine shootin
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Butchers face as he heard Homelanders story was freaking tragic. To know that before this cruel prick "went to town on him", Homelander was a sweet, kind boy that just wanted love and acceptance, not power or to be a hero.
Yeah, Vogelbaun was a real monster and deserved everything that came for him
Butcher is a such a cold hearted menace and I love it
its boring.
@@MrWhiskeycricket How on gods green earth could you call this show boring?!
@@jameslough6329 I was bored, that's why I said it was boring. the whole bad superhero thing has been in comics since the 80s, it was already done to death and better. the comic was lame, the show is lame.
@@MrWhiskeycricket I don’t know how you could have been bored! I personally know people who don’t like the Boys and even they would NEVER call it boring! There is always so much interesting shit going on each episode and the story moves at a breakneck pace.
The show is also WAY better than the comic imo. They actually make you feel sympathy for the “bad” superheroes and ensure that you understand exactly how they turned out the way they are.
Homelander and Butcher in particular are MUCH more interesting characters than their comic counterparts. They genuinely both feel like real people with nuanced three dimensional personalities.
I don’t think there are many stories that have done the “bad superhero” concept better than The Boys TV show. The only two I can think of are the Invincible Comic and the Injustice DC storyline. But those are two of the most acclaimed superhero comics ever written.
@@jameslough6329 The actors are good, but the show is boring - it's basically just a standard soap opera but with ultra-violence. The best "bad" superhero stories are DUH, Alan Moore's 80's "Watchmen", Warren Ellis's "The Authority" from the early 2000s (soon to be a movie) And Grant Morrison's "Earth 2" in the early 90's (which injustice was inspired by). Injustice was awful, by the way. I can actually list a lot more because there are lots more that suck - because this is a trend. And the trend is wearing thin.
The idea that homelander could have been superman had he just been left to grow, but instead they wanted to make who was already objectuvely the strongest being to maybe ever live "stronger" by torchering a sweet child is horrific.
I’ve never seen the word “tortured” butchered in that particular way.
@@fissilewhistleeh but Billy would be say it that way and plus they probably Def used torch as "torchering" on little homelander
Crazy how Butcher's face transforms as the lady comes walking in
Yes. Acting.
@@Mark-rt1jnacting has different layers. Facial transformation can be admired as a specific talent. Don't be a dickhead
Did Butcher follow through om his threat to Vogulbum's family??
No. But that threat is always in danger of acted upon
A grandfather who lives in a big mansion really thought he had nothing lose just because Homelander will probably kill him one day.
Vogelbaum was ready to die. He knew that after everything, someday, someone would come for his head. But he wanted his family to be safe.
One of my favorite scenes. I'm not sure if Billy would have gone through with it but the fact that I don't know is still scary as shit.
He would, he don't care
Depends on how similar he is to his comic book counterpart. If he's anything like the Butcher from the comics than he is only slightly less evil than Homelander.
He's british this is exactly how you become the ultimate boss battle
I mean in the comics it isn't really homelander doing half the bad homelander shit. I think Butcher is worse.@@Laneous14
He would absolutely go through with it.
3:35 Thit have to be the most menacing someone have ever been drinking a cut of tea...
3:35 'Sips tea diabolically'
The way he drinks the tea ☕️ takes it for me 😂😂😂😂that side eye while slowing drinking
I just realised John Doman is acting him, he was also in Manhunt as random Hoods, and in Fallout New Vegas as Caesar! So cool.
Oh wow I had no idea he was Caesar that's awesome
It took some time getting used to him in this role because I was so used to his performance as Rawls in the Wire. He was phenomenal lol
0:20 i love how he just drive through that grass agressively
Butcher wants to hear that Homelander grew up completely as a sadist dressed as a celebrity yet Vogelbaum says Homelander actually started off as any other kid with dreams, not even wanting to be the Vought super brand he would be groomed into. Gives the audience a chance to see how Butcher reacts when it's not just the terrible Supes he aims his violence at, but the monsters that enabled them. Even if he has to hurt their families or sacrifice his own red lines to achieve his goals.
Rawls: "You, Butcher, are a gaping asshole"
He's a reasonable guy!
"... We both know this."
It's the kind of thing that would sound so cringe out of someone else's mouth but somehow Butcher makes it so real
2:33 Yeah I can see Butcher actually doing that because, this guy created homelander who took basically everything from Billy.
I've never met the man, but it feels like Karl Urban has been overlooked his whole career and The Boys has showed people how good of an actor he is.
Karl Urbans fan base might not be the biggest but we are very loyal. I track his career for a long time now and he never disappoints in any of his roles
I think the issue is that he's either been in a lot of very mid things, or he's been given a number of mid roles. That's no fault of his, it's just how it is sometimes. Some people just need a good role in a good thing in order for them to get the recognition they have perhaps always deserved.
His range is insane. You can’t even tell it’s him in his roles most of the time.
The way he makes noise moving the chair gives me both tyrion and jules vibes. “Oh I’m sorry. Did i break your concentration?” He gives no shits about his intentions or his guilt.
Butcher and Homelander really are two sides of the same coin. Butcher might even be more evil, especially if the show is planning to follow the comics.
Butcher doesn't kill innocent people only bad guys in the show
They aren't following the comics and Butcher isn't a bad guy in the show (so far).
@@wisepalaz I'm trying to avoid comic spoilers by replying here, but idk, I think show Butcher seems pretty willing to do some of the things that comic Butcher did.
@@PaddyRoon7he definitely does... like ffs... even it was deserved... he still brutally killed Mesmeriser or memoriser who wanted to see his kid and nothing more plus he was willing to kill Kimikos brother with 0 hesitation plus he killed Gunpowder who was physically abused and S3xually abused by Soldier Boy... Comic Butcher is definitely way worse but the funny thing is that he's much nicer to the ppl around him or at least Hughie and there's a reason for that and it's not just because Hughie reminds him of his little brother...
the absolute hate that The Boys comic gets is just amazing because it's a full circle of how public opinion completely sways your way of thinking or perception to that specific thing... it happens everywhere and everyday and The Boys comic is one of those which gets unwarranted hate... and i know it's because of that disingenuous l0ser that completely shitted on The Boys comic aka PointlessHub and now everyone hates The Boys comic and constantly spew the same thing as to why they hate it even though they don't actually have a valid reason to hate it and even hate it in their own opinion....
but the hate isn't just on The Boys comic but also Garth Ennis which completely sucks because he's a very very genuine good writer...
why else do you think that the show was created... was it because they wanted to improve the dogsh1t that was The Boys comic.
No... it was never about that... the Director and Seth Rogan were just fans of the Comics and literally had them sitting next to Garth Ennis with Ennis being in the middle since he was the one that created it and its what the show is basing off on.
@@sarahbarnes9648Butcher would exterminate all supes if he could. Innocent or not.
Who's more intimidating while drinking a beverage: Billy Butcher drinking tea here or Jules drinking Sprite in Pulp Fiction?
Still Jules I think, but it's close.
Or Riddick drinking a cup of Tea?
@@8RincewindJules can't hold a candle to Butcher
Butcher by a great margin. Jules was a calm and reasonable person, he was someone who you can talk to and he would genuinely listen to you even if he's pointing a gun at your head. Meanwhile Butcher is a psychopath, he won't even bother listening to what you're saying, he'll just pull tge trigger.
Colonel Hans Landa drinking a glass of milk in Inglourious Basterds.
You don't get to live peacefully after making monsters of men.
Drives OVER the lawn like a Chad
chad
Terrifying and I believe every word that comes out of Butchers mouth when he’s in that zone without question
Karl Urban might not win any trophies but his film work and his choice in roles will be historic awards nonetheless.
Butcher is pretty much the alternate version of Batman / Bruce Wayne. Contingencies.
More like the punisher. Super smart but also completely ruthless and relentless in his pursuit of self defined evil…
hes more like V or rorschach pretty much the only thing that makes him a "good" person is that he happens to be fighting people worse than him
I’ve always liked Billy driving over the grass.
The most menacing sip of tea in history. Lol That side eye.
Billy could totally fuck with Homelander by mocking him about liking Davey Crockett lol
Why? Davey Crockett was a hero.
@@kylelapointe2289 he'll probably be like "Did ya wear the little Davey Crockett hat? When you begged daddy to love you?"
3:08 I don’t know who was hit more with 2 tons of irony, based on how the world works this guy in this moment by Billy Butcher, or a train after his brother gets hurt. I mean seriously how can these people be so damn surprised
God this show is so well written (homelander, butcher, edgar, soldier boy), i hope it never drops off.
Loved him as McCoy as I only know him as.. but this Karl guy is officially my favorite actor. I gotta ebay some of his other movies!
check out Dredd (2012)
To take a sweet innocent child and turn them into a complete flipping monster is a special type of evil that upon your deathyou get your own Wing In Hell dedicated to torturing you
Wait why hasn’t homelander ever thought of this
Because he already has Ryan in this episode.
1:29 is when butcher begins to see similarities in his & homelanders upbringing
“Loved the Idea of the woods” is that foreshadowing? If you seen Gen V you would know what I mean
Deputy Rawls never shouldve taken that deal with Carcetti. Look at what he got himself into after leaving the force!
The only scene that makes you feel bad for Homelander
Kinda felt bad for him when he broke down when Ryan went with Butcher. Totally deserved but still
In a sense, homelander is the greatest victim in the whole show,with maybe billy being the close second@@Jaymark895
I am more scared of Butcher than Homelander.
3:33 This is the very definition of aggressively British.
Just realized he drives over the lawn😂
that bombastic side eye is on another level
3:07 "How can you be so-"
Please, you have absolutely no right to say that after what you and Vought made and unleashed on the world and poor blokes like Butcher-so many hypocrites in this universe lol
That coat, the beard and hair and the accent with piercing gaze, you'd shit bricks in his presence.
Comics Butcher was way scarier.
I love how Billy drives straight over the lawn to park his car. We don't need no stinkin car loop.
This long sip is fucking hilarious. Fuckin love Butcher
That long ass stare tho too he be like "I'ma drink this tea as ur pissin' yer'pants from my threat" Bc he literally put The doctors family in jeopardy but hey, the doctor started it all- i kinda want to see Dr V's bloodline ending lol
0:20 lmao this guy! 🤣
Only William Butcher can sip a cuppa’ char so menacingly 🥶
"it was barely a blip on my radar" to "how could you be so"
that long sip and stare. love it😂
The way Butcher shlurps his tea diabolically is the absolute peak of the entire episode 😂
Rawls has come a long way since accepting he would never be police commissioner in Baltimore.
If you can deal with politics in Baltimore this is child's play in comparison. Even Homelander hides when he hears Omar whistling in the streets.
People have forgot that he was ready to kill Stilwell baby for no reason? He knew that homelander was not gonna die by the explosion but still done it. Billy is no different from homelander, but at least he is able to knowledge that he is a bad person at the end of the day.
Killing a baby is not the as what homelander did.
3:35
*Sips tea with malicious intent*
This is the moment I should have seen butchers weakness in the face of the person who caused all his pain he backs off
Karl Urban is the only other guy i could imagine as a phenomenal, ferocious yet still likeable Wolverine / Logan, and i still would love to see him in that role even though i don't think that this will ever happen due to his former marvel roles.
that said, there is one character i'd like tu see Urban take on again - DREDD.
Dredd3D was hugely underrated and underexposed, but was fantastic. It begs for another movie. Hard-boiled and absolutely brutal. Would love to see that.
You're right. I watched dredd on daytime TV years after it had come out and I expected it to be total garbage.
I was shocked to find that it was much better than I'd expected and realized how tragic it is that it didn't become a series of films. A big part of it was Karl Urban's excellent performance but it's too late now. The window for a dredd series of films like that is gone and maybe it's for the best.
Im so used to seeing Voglebam’s actor as Carmine Falcone
Vogelbum the Guy who trained and toughened up Supes as profession gets scared by a mere human.. thats how scary Butcher is.. Unreal portrayal by Karl Urban
She poured the cream in first. Ive heard this is sacrilege to the tea drinking world. More reason for Butcher’s disgust and resentment.
That glance was enough 😂😂
If the show turns out to end like the comic, then this isn’t even close to the reverse psychopath butcher becomes, because trust me, everyone is fucked when that happens.
it's easy to say that Butcher is a psychopath in the comic when Butcher hates himself for that reason... he didn't even set up to kill everyone out of random...
he wanted Hughie to be stronger and be more ruthless in order to stop Butcher and his crusade and it's why he lets Hughie live but even when Hughie goes on to attack Butcher, Billy still tries to save him even though he failed and Hughie gets injured in the process but the thing that really set off Hughie was that he actually believed that Butcher really did kidnap his family and they were ready to die in which Hughie snapped and stabbed Butcher but Hughie regrets it and then calls his family if they're actually okay and they are and Butcher smiles because of what Hughie did... when Hughie asks of what happened between them and Butcher, they said that he was very nice to them...
funnily enough, comic Butcher is actually nicer to the ppl around him and even Hughie elsewell... the show doesn't pull of the same thing but does a similar thing but in a different way and that's totally fine because the show are actually FANS of the original work...
they don't hate it and actually tried to improve the dogsh1t that was The Boys comic since thr comic was never bad or anything like that as the public opinion claims to say...
its funny how the Public Opinion once again completely sways ppls thinking or perception to that specific thing and just say that it's bad or just say the same thing that ppl heard from the person who made the house call aka PointlessHub...
now everyone sh1ts on the comic and just say the same thing and no one has their own opinions on it... and when someone does, they still alter their way of thinking or. perception of thr comic because of how the public opinion responds to those who try to have their own opinion of the comic.
@@godzillazfriction wtf are you talking about brother, I was just comparing the comic with the show and how it mirrors it a little.
@@hot-_-fries1254 😐 nice to completely disregard my comment... fuck you... don't even reply to me... its not even worth it at this point
@@godzillazfriction Nah man, I read the comic and it is shit
@@godzillazfriction but I agree with Butcher being nicer to ppl around him in the comics, it is something I never saw anyone else bringing up before
Love how he just drives over the grass. 😂
He created a monster and that monster created a worse one
In the script: *sips tea menacingly*
Karl Urban: '...alright, then' *proceeds to nail it*
His accent may need some work, but his acting is top notch
Homelander probably applies manifest destiny to supes vs humans now
Of course Homelander is in The Legion.
Butcher is so fucking intimidating. And hes not even lying. He would absolutely do what he threatened him with.
Imagine if vogelbaum still said no and tried to call his bluff. A billy was just like “so be it” and just did what he said he would do.
03:38 This death stare...Reminds me of Arnold's classics.
Butcher reminds me of Matt from sicario a cheerful carefree guy and in a second have you in a corner pissing yourself he is willing to do whatever is necessary
Can anyone slurp tea in such a menacing fashion?
Coral Espinosa
awe! true to caesar!
its so good
Billy Butcher -
Motivational Speaker
And this is the guy going to be Johnny Cage? Holy crap!
3:45 I'm a lot worse than you think I am.
There's so much that Billy took away from this interaction, firstly that Homalander was once also like Ryan, a sweet innocent boy that was shaped into the monster he is today, a fate that can be fall Ryan, secondly, that homelander shared a similar childhood to Himself, he and butcher are two sides of the same coil in that regard, hardened into the men they are today. I believe Butcher when he threated Vogelbuams family, I can see butcher going further into darkness in the seasons to come just to win the fight against supes
Be careful when you fight monsters etc
true although it could have been a bluff
It’s funny how Vogelbaum is like 😢how can you be so cruel. When he literally created a superhuman murdering psychopath
homelander is at worst a sociopath psychopaths are born from what Ive heard not made
Awe true to Vogelbaum
Atleast he didn't say cha tea
Butcher - I must say...damn good stuff sir. Now, about this pickle...it seems there's only one thing left for you to do
Wait...wrong show...
Homelanders evil deeds brought out an even worse evil in butcher.
maybe the only time when he viewed this guy as butcher's father.
Homelander sounds like a whiny version of Johan Liebert Jonah here even feels like Franz Bonaparte
"I can't help you testify against Vought but there's something else that might interest you. Even more than my testimony"
Butcher: "And what would that's gonna be?"
"A weakness, he has a weakness"
Ave, true to Homelander.
Butcher's definition is: Life has been hard for me, so I'll make it hard for others.
Hmm I know another person like that and he has blond hair and blue eyes to be clear though one of them is definitely worse
Now that’s how you threaten someone
Carl as Butcher might be an even better casting than RDJ as Iron Man
After Lord of the Rings came the first Doom movie, starring him. He was allright but the script was bad. I wondered what the future might hold for him. But then he aced in the Star Trek reboot trilogy, and here he wears the crown.
At least it wasn't Valchek in charge
what's up with the subtitles? why are they so bad?
holyshit that was beyond acting
"...but you tell him, he´s got one more. The name´s Captain Price."