Jim Cornette on Vince McMahon Wanting To Sign The Von Erichs In 1984

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
  • From Episode 151 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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  • @Dakatari
    @Dakatari 3 года назад +193

    I would have loved seeing a Von Erich vs Hart Family feud this would've been epic

    • @Genkimark
      @Genkimark 3 года назад +20

      The two most tragic family legacies in pro-wrestling.

    • @terrywalker1273
      @terrywalker1273 3 года назад +23

      They could of done a survivor series match

    • @adamrenfrow
      @adamrenfrow 3 года назад +2

      Hell yeah

    • @bradpaton3927
      @bradpaton3927 3 года назад +2

      @@terrywalker1273 *HAVE, boomer!

    • @jericho9497
      @jericho9497 3 года назад +2

      Dude! That would’ve been by far the best fued ever! Especially back in the day when they had the midnight express, the legion of doom and even the brothers of destruction where running the show. Eventually DX came along and gave us the famous fued with Vince McMahon which was so filling but there will never be a fued that’s more addicting than StoneCold and Vince McMahon

  • @NathanArnoldCharging
    @NathanArnoldCharging 3 года назад +90

    Stick around folks, we've got more action coming up here on 'Prime Time Wrestling', it's The Killer Bees taking on The Texas Tornadoes.

    • @awzthemusicalreviews
      @awzthemusicalreviews 3 года назад +5

      2020 filling out all the dream match bingo cards

    • @roymartin500
      @roymartin500 3 года назад +5

      I'd cheer for whomever Bobby Heenan was going for! 👍🤙

    • @chadk890
      @chadk890 3 года назад +1

      B Brian Blair was good friends of the Von Erichs

  • @cbod14
    @cbod14 3 года назад +96

    We have all said this a million times: Wrestling history is so different if David doesn't die. I think the Von Erichs were content to be big fish in a small pond.

    • @ikill4klondikebars
      @ikill4klondikebars 3 года назад +49

      But it wasn't a small pond. As Cornette even said. Dallas was one of the biggest markets in the country. The Von Erichs were huge everywhere. Even Japan.

    • @jamesynfg
      @jamesynfg 3 года назад +13

      keller blair who wasn’t in the mid 80s? Flair, the whole NWO, even the guys who don’t do coke but were hooked on pain meds.... don’t really think that ever stopped anyone in this industry before

    • @Mdoodatt
      @Mdoodatt 3 года назад +10

      @capitalismforme are you kidding me? The Dallas Sportatorium, World Class home base, held 5,000 tops. Compare that to Madison Square Garden, WWF's home base. The WWF and AWA were both bigger than World Class.

    • @piperar2014
      @piperar2014 3 года назад +2

      The way I understand it, World Class never left the immediate Dallas Fort Worth area. Was it a big territory, or a small territory? Well, it was a unique territory.

    • @cbod14
      @cbod14 3 года назад +1

      Piper A R It was a big territory. They oddly never promoted in Houston that was Watts & Paul Boesch territory. They were known nationally but they rarely did cards outside of Texas

  • @maxxdahl6062
    @maxxdahl6062 3 года назад +105

    Kerry had the look the Vince creamed his jeans over.

    • @ChrisfromGeorgia
      @ChrisfromGeorgia 3 года назад +14

      I'm sure Corny had a dream or too about Kerry plowing his piglet.

    • @ChrisfromGeorgia
      @ChrisfromGeorgia 3 года назад +3

      @Stephen Joens 🐖

    • @pandavelli8176
      @pandavelli8176 3 года назад

      keller blair - oh, literal keller

    • @cishansen4162
      @cishansen4162 3 года назад +5

      And Kerry could go. I love going back and watching the old Von Erichs vs Freebirds matches. Wrestling use to be something special.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 года назад

      @ShadowAngel Not at all. Kerry was jacked.

  • @christopherr3676
    @christopherr3676 3 года назад +130

    The dark side of the ring episode on the von erichs is heartbreaking to watch

    • @johngallagher72
      @johngallagher72 3 года назад +13

      It was worse reading the apter mags as it happened ..seemed like every month there was something.

    • @christopherr3676
      @christopherr3676 3 года назад +9

      @@johngallagher72 yeah if ever a family was cursed it was this one

    • @ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother
      @ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother 3 года назад +1

      I think the Triumph and Tragedy of WCCW documentary WWE did was worse.

    • @gregblau8082
      @gregblau8082 3 года назад +2

      I just rewatched it 2 days ago. Where I grew up we didn’t have cable available so wwf was the only promotion we really had. I remember once in a while seeing other territories when someone had a satellite dish but I’m just learning about a lot of these guys from dark side and RUclips videos

    • @christopherr3676
      @christopherr3676 3 года назад +6

      @@gregblau8082 the gino hernandez one is really fascinating. The herb Abraham one is unintentionally funny in that he died doing what he loved . Cocaine and hookers

  • @Tim_Webb
    @Tim_Webb 3 года назад +31

    As a young lad I couldn’t take my eyes off The Texas Tornado. He had it all. The Von Erichs are true wrestling royalty.

  • @juanckjim
    @juanckjim 3 года назад +78

    Vince buying the territoriesa should be an episode of The Dark Side of the Ring

    • @brandonbryan9589
      @brandonbryan9589 3 года назад +2

      Bro. This should happen

    • @briannorris796
      @briannorris796 3 года назад +3

      The only problem with that is mostl of the knowledgeable people are gone. Verne G, Harley,
      Ole would be good. Jim could definitely speak on it.

    • @seanmckenzie8813
      @seanmckenzie8813 3 года назад +4

      No way it would be a single episode.
      It would have to be a Minimum of 3 Episodes, and that's pushing it.

    • @stealthbomber2126
      @stealthbomber2126 3 года назад +1

      Right, and do not have one of vince's ass kissers narrating and doing most of the talking. Nothing against Jerico but Dutch Mantell gave DSotR a noncartoon feel to it and it was great.

    • @pooddescrewch8718
      @pooddescrewch8718 3 года назад +3

      Jerry Jarrett , Bill Watts , Ron Fuller and Greg Gagne could all be reached

  • @westdallasboy4454
    @westdallasboy4454 3 года назад +21

    The Von Erichs at the Sportatorium in Dallas on Saturday night... Classic 80's!!!

    • @durden2480
      @durden2480 3 года назад +2

      Great time to be kid watching wrestling

    • @brannonjenkins9093
      @brannonjenkins9093 2 месяца назад

      The Sport auditorium in Dallas was always friday night

    • @westdallasboy4454
      @westdallasboy4454 2 месяца назад

      @@brannonjenkins9093 the broadcasts hosted by Mark Lawrence always showed on Saturday nights if I remember correctly.

  • @liamnguyen2819
    @liamnguyen2819 3 года назад +32

    The fact that Kerry Von Erich was in the WWE in 1990 goes to show how stacked the WWE was back in the day.

    • @piperar2014
      @piperar2014 3 года назад +1

      It wasn't the WWE back on the day.

    • @piperar2014
      @piperar2014 3 года назад +2

      @ShadowAngel Yes, I did make a typo, and failed to proofread. You sure burned me!

    • @liamnguyen2819
      @liamnguyen2819 3 года назад

      @Cause I Said So Yeah that Royal Rumble brings back memories.

    • @liamnguyen2819
      @liamnguyen2819 3 года назад +1

      @ShadowAngel loll

    • @liamnguyen2819
      @liamnguyen2819 3 года назад

      @Cause I Said So lol true true

  • @rossdelane5879
    @rossdelane5879 3 года назад +8

    Taping in Canada was done in Brantford Ontario. 30 minutes west of Hamilton.

  • @Djarra
    @Djarra 3 года назад +17

    Really wish we'd got Jim's view on the myth that Kerry replaced Warrior for a while.

  • @seancuebas2332
    @seancuebas2332 Год назад +5

    It’s depressing how underrated Kevin Von Erich is. Dude was a beast!!

  • @mikelong2756
    @mikelong2756 3 года назад +15

    I've never came across a fence post turtle 🐢, but if I do.. I'll help the little guy out.

  • @drpandanomics3050
    @drpandanomics3050 3 года назад +7

    Everyone just sign your questions Charlie from Starksville Mississippi

  • @johngallagher72
    @johngallagher72 3 года назад +2

    The TV taping was actually London On . Approx 1/2 hr ...45 min west of Hamilton

  • @KofCFrank06511
    @KofCFrank06511 3 года назад +3

    Also, Around this time, when Von Erich won the NWA belt from Flair in Dallas, it was covered in the wwf ( or Victory) magazine. Either the first or second edition

  • @Stampistuta
    @Stampistuta 3 года назад +10

    If you made the perfect wrestler in a machine it would be Kerry. Damn he looked like a million dollars.

    • @Michael_Chandler_Keaton
      @Michael_Chandler_Keaton 3 года назад +3

      No, not professional wrestler. The perfect professional wrestler would also need personality and charisma Kerry never had.

    • @Stampistuta
      @Stampistuta 3 года назад

      Chandler Keaton I talking visually.

    • @Stampistuta
      @Stampistuta 3 года назад

      Rj Boss Just talking about his look.

    • @PontFlair
      @PontFlair 3 года назад +3

      @@Michael_Chandler_Keaton Kerry wasn't the guy w/ the "gift of gab", that's true. But he did have charisma.

    • @Michael_Chandler_Keaton
      @Michael_Chandler_Keaton 3 года назад

      @@PontFlair He did. I don't think he had top level charisma that would draw huge crowds to see him. He did draw, but much of it was from the Von Erich name and in his hometown.

  • @sheriffofrockridge9095
    @sheriffofrockridge9095 3 года назад +7

    I haven’t heard reneged since my time in the county , where they say reniged

  • @tw475
    @tw475 3 года назад +5

    i am not saying Vince McMahon watched world class every week, but he at some point seen things he liked it. if you look at the production later on, the out of the arena stuff taped "sports entertainment" aspect was clearly from them.

  • @josephrhodes5025
    @josephrhodes5025 2 года назад +3

    Kerry Von Erich was like my favorite wrestler when he came on as the Texas Tornado in the WWF. I was like 9 yrs old at the time, I had no idea he had a whole family that were wrestlers until later in life. Kerry was so talented and in my little mind he was the exact picture of what a professional wrestler should be.

    • @noneyabidness6737
      @noneyabidness6737 8 месяцев назад

      felt like a budget ultimate warrior to me unfortunately, pretty fucked up looking back at it now

    • @tydurden101
      @tydurden101 6 месяцев назад

      @@noneyabidness6737he’s definitely more skilled in the ring than the Ultimate Warriorr though even on one foot.

    • @MAGIKMARTIAN9526
      @MAGIKMARTIAN9526 5 месяцев назад +1

      he looked like a hero

  • @David-jc5jf
    @David-jc5jf 3 года назад +8

    Kerry would have been a larger than life personality if he went to the WWF for that IT factor plus the charisma. He would be in that upper echelon with Hogan, Andre, Macho, and Warrior no doubt about it. Kerry was destined for greatness but his vises got the best of him and the whole Von Erich family story is a tragedy.

    • @ikill4klondikebars
      @ikill4klondikebars 3 года назад +3

      He might have been fine if he hadn't gotten in that accident and gotten his foot amputated. Of course, no way of knowing in an alternate timeline if Kerry still kills himself.

    • @trevorlahey4178
      @trevorlahey4178 2 года назад

      @@ikill4klondikebars as someone from the future i would say had Kerry not gotten in that motorcycle accident that cost him his foot and had drugs not been involved, i dont believe Kerry would have killed himself

  • @macattack14778
    @macattack14778 3 года назад +23

    Von Erichs were cursed. Great wrestling family.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 года назад +3

      And had the first national TV show. (Via syndication, rather than cable, but still.)

    • @jasonjimerson7046
      @jasonjimerson7046 3 года назад +7

      Sure... If that curse is called drugs.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 года назад

      @Joe Greene Ah yeah, good point. Forgot about Blanchards territory.

    • @davey3884
      @davey3884 3 года назад +5

      They weren't cursed..

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 года назад

      @Joe Greene I think it was Blanchard, then Von Erichs, then vince got blanchards national deal after that.

  • @josephellingson4739
    @josephellingson4739 3 года назад +10

    The Von Erichs would have been better in the NWA and Crockett Promotions feuding with the Four Horesmen,Road Warriors,Koloffs,and Rock In Roll Express.The Von Erichs had more NWA rough tuff smash mouth style of Wrestling.

    • @marka.graffakasnakebitenat3736
      @marka.graffakasnakebitenat3736 3 года назад

      The Kerry Von Erich, Ric Flair feud would have ramped up in WCW and could have worked in The WWF along with Hulk Hogan then. Why no one saw that, it behooves me. Plus, Vince McMahon banned Kerry from using the Iron Claw. Go figure?

    • @alberthenley2062
      @alberthenley2062 3 года назад

      Joseph Ellingson, yup. WWF was too cartoonish for them. In the Nwa there was more heat and intensity. Vince McMahon had shit on some silly comedy ridiculous shit.

    • @bramirez3330
      @bramirez3330 3 года назад

      The Von Erichs were in the NWA. World Class was sanctioned by The National Wrestling Alliance. WCCW was an NWA territory. Just like Mid Atlantic. JCP did not own the NWA. I don't know why everybody thinks that.

    • @anthonylewis3095
      @anthonylewis3095 27 дней назад

      FACTS

  • @seanabbins5481
    @seanabbins5481 3 года назад +10

    It is my understanding that the houses in Dallas the first few times the WWF went there were very low.

    • @arthurdaffos1490
      @arthurdaffos1490 3 года назад +1

      That is believable, the wwf style was very different than dallas

    • @seanabbins5481
      @seanabbins5481 3 года назад

      @ShadowAngel THank you for those details, Shadow Angel. I had come across those numbers at some point, but couldn't remember the specifics or where I got them. It flies in the face of the narrative that all the territories went out of business because they couldn't compete with the WWF. Some territories went out of business in the early 80's prior to the expansion, and some went out of business despite local disinterest in WWF product. The mid 80's was a boom time for WWF north of the Mason/Dixon line, but south of it, fans didn't embrace the product at that time.

    • @seanabbins5481
      @seanabbins5481 3 года назад +2

      @@andrewboyce8230 Yes, I have read some things about how bad the houses were in the Carolinas for WWF shows. It was similar to Texas and Tennessee; southern states that had strong local territories in the 80's didn't gravitate toward the WWF. Unfortunately though, those fans seemed to have left wrestling altogether by the late 80's as the local territories started declining.

    • @stealthbomber2126
      @stealthbomber2126 3 года назад

      @@seanabbins5481 You are right. vince's shit show came to Littlejohn Coliseum in Clemson, S.C. and there were only 400 people in that huge arena and they never came back.

    • @stealthbomber2126
      @stealthbomber2126 3 года назад +1

      WCCW was rough and tough and presented as real. A grown man acting like a chicken killed it for a lot of us.

  • @Tujefa1981
    @Tujefa1981 3 года назад +2

    Corney: I need to go give Harley a kiss on the head.
    Brian: ohhhhhhh k
    😃

  • @buddycooper3846
    @buddycooper3846 3 года назад +5

    Hearding cats lmfao

  • @derrickw3360
    @derrickw3360 3 года назад +2

    That match with Jericho and the Heavenly bodies was a great match. I seen it recently so i was vety late on it, but it holds up still. I think I seen it on the WWE Network wen I seen it.

  • @78bcat
    @78bcat 3 года назад +3

    The Von Erichs are the best litmus test for those who lost touch with the industry in the 1980's: If you think David was the star...you're out of touch, stuck in the 70's, and that's why you were so easy for Vince to route. If you see Kerry was clearly the star and as tragic as David's passing was, it was Kerry's substance abuse issues that changed the business.

    • @chadk890
      @chadk890 3 года назад +1

      David WAS World Class Wrestling and was a future NWA Champion. His death shocked the Wrestling business at the time. He was the better talker and worker of the family. Why did Kerry just hold the belt for 3 weeks? David would've been a longer Champion trading the belt with Flair

    • @chadkerwin9141
      @chadkerwin9141 3 года назад

      @Cause I Said So I agree. David was more for the NWA style and Kerry was tailor made for the WWF if he stayed healthy.

  • @soluble8029
    @soluble8029 3 года назад +23

    If the Von Erichs would have gone to WWF in 1984, Vince would have put them in the lower mid card

    • @tomr3422
      @tomr3422 3 года назад +9

      They would have got horrible gimmicks and not lasted long, like so many have.

    • @metalcoffie
      @metalcoffie 3 года назад +1

      They did have the Freedbird for a hot minute in 84. Maybe they would've stayed if the Von Erichs came in and they could've had that feud on a WWF stage..... or at least if could've been a possibility anyway.

    • @kevincarroll28
      @kevincarroll28 3 года назад +2

      I dont think so...Even after Kerry was not Kerry 84 he put him over. Kerry drug habit is why he flooded out.

    • @chadk890
      @chadk890 3 года назад

      Not Kerry in 84,hell no

  • @TheMagnificentMongoSlade
    @TheMagnificentMongoSlade 3 года назад +10

    Kerry was perfect for the WWF. Great look. Easy to like and root for, good worker, too.
    If Kerry had come to the WWF he would've been GREAT. Maybe not Hogan-level but he would've been one of Vince's guys, and probably wouldn't have needed Hellwig.
    Texas was a big territory, too. Maybe he would've made Kerry champion, even temporarily, just to satisfy the market. Would Kerry get over in MSG? That's the question. If Kerry is a star at MSG AND Dallas...oh boy. Hogan would've been in for a run for his money.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 года назад +2

      Always heard if Vince couldn't get Hogan, he was going to try to do the same thing but only with Kerry instead. No idea how true it is, but I could see Vince trying it. But I still don't see ANY of the Von Erich boys leaving their dads company long term, as they had their own national tv show to take care of.

    • @brian9670
      @brian9670 3 года назад

      m.ruclips.net/video/IwDZ3CEncaQ/видео.html
      Prepare to have your mind BLOWN

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 года назад +2

      @@brian9670 No shit. We're talking 1982-1983. NOT 1991-1992.

    • @zippymufo9765
      @zippymufo9765 9 месяцев назад

      @@maxxdahl6062 No way would Kerry have gone over like Hogan. He had zero mike skills and was dumb as a brick. Hogan's personality made up for the fact that he was limited in wrestling skills.

    • @Ijustinsultedyou
      @Ijustinsultedyou 6 месяцев назад

      I’m sorry and I’m pretty sure I’m not alone but I have to disagree. It don’t matter what time frame Kerry would’ve or could’ve came to the WWF. He lacks something very essential in the world of professional wrestling. He was absolutely horrific on the microphone. His promo ability was a zero rating. He was extremely uncomfortable on the microphone and it was just dreadful to listen to him talk. You cannot be successful in a global machine like the WWF especially during that time without being able to get yourself over on the microphone.

  • @davestuddaman8127
    @davestuddaman8127 3 года назад +1

    All Kerry needed was a manager same with Kevin.
    That's what David was that's why David was so important to the promotion

  • @cajunasian71
    @cajunasian71 3 года назад +3

    Ah... The Von Erichs. I miss wrestling in Dallas and my visits to The Sportatorium. Only Fritz wanted to keep WCCW regional. David would have been the NWA World Champion. David and Kerry could have been the NWA World Tag Team Champions (fighting The Freebirds, Gino & Chris, Devastation Inc).
    Vince would not have known what to do with them, unfortunately. He would have acquired SOME of the talent and booked them as lower to mid card. Like he did with WCW and ECW talent.

  • @rossdelane6350
    @rossdelane6350 6 месяцев назад

    WWF Canadian taping was done in Brantford, not Hamilton.

  • @bentonmckinney5454
    @bentonmckinney5454 Год назад +1

    Fritz wanted to go national but he didn't have a talent roster with a lot of depth maybe if Fritz had put other talent over and let son's chase title shots or the main event spot it would have helped more

  • @rbswords2353
    @rbswords2353 3 года назад +1

    Hogan vs Kerry could've been big money.

  • @spunkmonkeyjones259
    @spunkmonkeyjones259 3 года назад +2

    Kerry's work in the ring was 10 times that of Hogan, The problem with Kerry was that he couldn't talk. I think some of that had to do with drugs. I also think some of it had to do with him being kinda slow. Kevin never gets the love he should.

    • @krt88nc
      @krt88nc 3 года назад +2

      Kerry was difficult in the ring due to substance abuse and Kevin was way too stiff. Neither could cut a great promo.

  • @WrathNBrimstone
    @WrathNBrimstone 3 года назад +1

    he missed the whole point of the question asking what would be done with the von erichs in wwf? which belts and how theyd be used?

  • @Gravydog316
    @Gravydog316 3 года назад +3

    Maple Leaf Wrestling with Billy Red Lyons!

    • @johngallagher72
      @johngallagher72 3 года назад

      Don't cha dare miss it

    • @jimmorti2153
      @jimmorti2153 3 года назад

      Or as Slick called him “ Billy Red “Dead-Head” Lyons”

  • @masterj4777
    @masterj4777 3 года назад +8

    Glad it didn't happen Vince would have ruined them like he does everything else period that's how he stole talent by promising them lies of fame & fortune them never doing it 🤦

    • @masterj4777
      @masterj4777 3 года назад +3

      @Living Legend That says a hell of a lot 🤔

    • @Tujefa1981
      @Tujefa1981 3 года назад +2

      Oh stop Hogan, Rock, Austin, Macho, Cena, Michaels, I could go on and on. Vince can't make every champion it doesn't work that way.

    • @masterj4777
      @masterj4777 3 года назад +1

      @@Tujefa1981 GTFOH!! Except for two people you named Everybody else he stole from other companies they were already big names!! You young millennial WWE Marks need to grow up 🤦🛑🤚

    • @brooklynbull-e3565
      @brooklynbull-e3565 3 года назад

      @Living Legend they didn't use " questionable tactics " they used " leverage "

    • @mecha2001
      @mecha2001 3 года назад +2

      reality is Vince was very shrewd in acquiring people into his company to eliminate them from being competition. the Invasion angle probably being one of the simplest examples, he bought WCW, the angle was to create the perception they were equal, but they inevitably got buried in the end. Booker T was one of the few talents out of that fold that got anything fruitful out of the acquisition that I can think of. and Hurricane was popular too. NWO imploded, and DDP was humiliated. that's just 1 year. this has gone on for nearly 40 now, so there's a wealth of other examples. it's happening now with NXT where they're gobbling up the indies and then when they reach the main roster they get bled dry and devalued to the point that if they leave they probably have very little left if they go elsewhere. people can cite the likes of Warrior as the biggest prick on the face of the earth (he kind of was) but he was also very intelligent about how he handled his business. I was a Warrior fan during his original run, his subsequent runs in WWF and WCW he was able to milk a lot more money for little effort during that period. this is why Vince does a lot of incredibly petty things, he can't sell that he was had. that's why he massacres people's gimmicks and 'corporatizes' everything so he owns their souls.

  • @stevenstark6104
    @stevenstark6104 3 года назад +28

    As a kid i thought Kerry Von Erich was god

    • @chefaaron77
      @chefaaron77 3 года назад +5

      I only knew the von erichs from wrestling magazines and their runs with the freebirds. They had a lot of mystque to me

    • @nathandejaynes214
      @nathandejaynes214 3 года назад +1

      Up there just not the sobriety

    • @yankees29
      @yankees29 3 года назад

      If you grew up in Texas he was a god.

  • @elland37
    @elland37 Год назад

    Colse, the tv in Canada was done in Brantford not Hamilton.

  • @67silverhazey
    @67silverhazey 2 года назад

    Please don't fillet me for this but was the Texas tornado a von Erich?

  • @BeeBumper
    @BeeBumper 2 года назад

    Didn't Kerry work short term as Texas tornado?

  • @ZombieKid-.-
    @ZombieKid-.- 3 года назад +2

    Kerry Von Erich was pretty over with me in WCCW, already saw Vince ruin the Missing Link by then, glad they held off Ol’ Mr. Potter as long as they did.

    • @chadk890
      @chadk890 3 года назад

      He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated with Hogan and wasn't around long enough. How was Link ruined?

  • @mazzb305
    @mazzb305 3 года назад +1

    Vince was diabolical 🤣🤣

  • @gjfwang
    @gjfwang 8 месяцев назад

    In 1984 McMahon signed everyone he could

  • @peacemaker9915
    @peacemaker9915 3 года назад

    Kerry didn’t have a prayer with Crockett because Dusty wasn’t there to pull for him. There would have been an interesting new feud with flair though

  • @stevep4574
    @stevep4574 3 года назад +4

    I don't think they would have fitted in @ WWE in 84.

    • @chadk890
      @chadk890 3 года назад +1

      Kerry would've, he would've gave Hogan a run in popularity

    • @PontFlair
      @PontFlair 3 года назад +2

      @@chadk890 correct
      And truth be told, he was better in the ring. The ONLY thing that separates Hogan from Kerry (RIP) was the talking.

    • @chadk890
      @chadk890 3 года назад

      @@PontFlair Well said

  • @vinnyfaxx9267
    @vinnyfaxx9267 3 года назад +1

    Vince primarily wanted them to crack the Dallas/TX market and of course, WCCW's fan base. He ran Dallas house shows a number of times, but none of them ever drew. That, and Kerry's habit(s) would have probably accelerated his demise - especially given their road schedule at the time.. He did have "the look" Vince desperately wanted, but scoring Jim Hellwig just a few short years later let him scratch that itch..

    • @maturanita
      @maturanita 3 года назад +2

      @Robert Regish the difference being that Kerry was a very good wrestler, while Hellwig was awful

  • @DjTractus
    @DjTractus 3 года назад +3

    Vince actually wanted Kerry instead of Warrior and when he got him still intended to push him to the moon. That's why Kerry ended Mr. Perfect's undefeated streak. HOWEVER his personal problems were in full gear then. I remember being in Jr. High and Kerry stiffed us for a meet a d greet so we got free tickets to Syracuse and stiffed us again but we met Hogan instead.

    • @Davis84396
      @Davis84396 3 года назад +1

      Brutus Beefcake ended Mr Perfects undefeated streak on TV at WrestleMania 6, this was a few months before Kerry signed with the WWF..

    • @DjTractus
      @DjTractus 3 года назад

      @@Davis84396 was it Bruti? If memory serves correct wasn't that by DQ? Kerry got the clean pin on Perfect.

    • @randybutler6456
      @randybutler6456 3 года назад +1

      @@Davis84396 yes, I think the guy meant Perfect's first Intercontinental title run.

    • @DjTractus
      @DjTractus 3 года назад

      @@randybutler6456 that is what I mean but @cleg6969 was right Bruti pinned Perfect before he won the I.C. belt. Hogan politics at work

    • @Davis84396
      @Davis84396 3 года назад +1

      Paul Contento nope, slingshot into the ring post and then beefcake pinned him.

  • @fjccommish
    @fjccommish 6 месяцев назад

    After David died, there was only one viable combination that could have challenged for the tag titles - Kevin and Kerry.

  • @Mr.Majestic77
    @Mr.Majestic77 3 года назад +9

    No disrespect but the match between current TNA World Heavyweight Champion: Moose against Heath (formerly Heath Slater) during tonight's Impact Wrestling was pretty damn good.
    Other Impact Wrestling highlights from last night:
    Rich Swann's emotion promo then being attacked by Eric Young was spot on as well as the face to face confrontation between The North and the new Impact World Tag Team Champions: Motor City Machine Guns.
    Rob Van Dam's sneek attack on Sami Callihan was great too.

  • @GChris39
    @GChris39 3 года назад +2

    Fritz in my mind was too harsh. He pushed his sons too far man and Lou Thesz said something very sad about it too. Kerry was real good as the Texas Tornado though. But the Von Erichs had a problem after problem which didn't end. I believe it should have ended with David Von Erich dying. Fritz should have done was a have an important meeting with his remaining sons. Telling them to explore different things in life instead of wrestling if they wanted to continue wrestling the choice of theirs

    • @ferox965
      @ferox965 2 года назад

      He pushed them, but to be fair, they were insanely popular.

  • @madmantrader
    @madmantrader 3 года назад +1

    Why don’t you do a watch a long with impact!!!!

  • @robmiller931
    @robmiller931 3 года назад

    I read in one of my wrestling magazines about McMahon & Fritz doing something of a talent exchange since Fritz was once friends with McMahon Sr.supposedly Vince wanted to help Fritz somehow butat the same time when wwe came to town they didnt do very well,which if this is true its probably what prompted Vince to do anything with Fritz and instead of just wiping him out,he let Fritz' company pretty much do it on its own

  • @tammyforbes2101
    @tammyforbes2101 2 года назад

    Everybody wanted to sign the Vons it wasn’t just Vince!

  • @calebchris100
    @calebchris100 3 года назад +1

    Von erichs weren’t going to be a corny gimmick that Vince liked. Vince wouldn’t let David come out to a Tanya tucker song

    • @MrJjburgess11
      @MrJjburgess11 3 года назад +2

      Vince didn't really start doing the corny gimmicks untill the early 90s. In the mid 80s . He let most the guys be who they were .

  • @harshtruth5003
    @harshtruth5003 3 года назад +2

    Kerry von Erich looked great but von Erich mania? I don't know about that I don't think anyone could have taken hogan's spot at the time.

    • @durden2480
      @durden2480 3 года назад

      They didn’t need von Erich mania. They just walked in buildings and people blew! They were legends before they could buy beer

    • @Ijustinsultedyou
      @Ijustinsultedyou 6 месяцев назад

      Least of all him because he couldn’t speak. It was absolutely gut wrenching listening to him try to cut a promo on the microphone. He wasn’t successful when he came to the WWF and he would’ve never been successful at any time he came to the WWF. You absolutely have to be able to get yourself over on the microphone to be of any significance in that company especially during those time frames.

  • @rubinbarber6781
    @rubinbarber6781 3 года назад +1

    think of every boy band that was out there that has existed the von Erich family was the equivalent of it during the wrestling area of the 70s 80s then Kerry von Erich went to WWF they completely destroyed his career because didn't know how the book him right

  • @jasoncutshaw8401
    @jasoncutshaw8401 Год назад

    Kerry would have been talked about today as probably the GREATEST WRESTLER EVER!!!

  • @Megatron-sl5us
    @Megatron-sl5us 3 года назад +5

    The Von Erichs would've killed themselves eventually even if they were in the WWF. David and Mike overdosed on Drugs while Chris and Kerry shot themselves in the head. The second generation Von Erichs could've been a great wrestling family. Kevin Von Erich is the only member I believe to have lived through it all. Thankfully the third generation isn't making the mistakes that the previous generation did. I hope they'll be around for a long time. I would like to see Lacey return to wrestling someday.

    • @browncoat13
      @browncoat13 3 года назад +1

      Kerry shot himself in the chest with a shotgun.

    • @pandavelli8176
      @pandavelli8176 3 года назад +1

      NostalgiaMan - what a morbid thing for you to rush to correct the guy on lmao

    • @browncoat13
      @browncoat13 3 года назад +1

      Plus, David died in the ring of Enteritis, not from a drug overdose.

    • @kingrama27
      @kingrama27 3 года назад

      David didn’t die of a drug overdose dummy

    • @r3d3y3si
      @r3d3y3si 3 года назад +1

      @@browncoat13 David died in a hotel room in Japan.

  • @marvinalexander6796
    @marvinalexander6796 3 года назад

    If that had happened, then the feud against the Freebirds would've ended prematurely, David and Jimmy Garvin wouldn't had that match where Jimmy lost, and he and sunshine had to be his ranchhand for the day

    • @kaioh187
      @kaioh187 3 года назад +1

      I do not think so, I could see the Fabulous Freebird/Von Erich feud would have continued and Wrestlemania would have started in 1984 instead of 1985 in my opinion due to his feud alone. I believe that Vince would have done everything in the world to not let anything happen to the Von Erichs and the Fabulous Freebirds. Vince would have outright bought out WCCW and had a vast collection of stars to add to his collection already. I could see feuds that would have been awesome: Iceman King Parsons vs Roddy Piper, Gino Hernandez vs Jimmy Snuka to name a few. David Von Erich and Jimmy Garvin would have still had their feud.

  • @joemckim1183
    @joemckim1183 Год назад

    It makes you think that Kerry's life could've gone drastically different if he went to WWF instead of staying in WCCW. Maybe he wouldn't have been in the situation where he lost his foot in the motorcycle accident.

    • @anthonykrutis490
      @anthonykrutis490 Год назад

      Kerry didn't have his head screwed on straight.Don't forget the NWA committee stripped him after three weeks as champ.They even flew him out to Japan to lose it to Ric.

  • @edwardclement102
    @edwardclement102 3 года назад

    Vince did not destroy Verne's company, Verne lost land and money from it and had to stop promoting and this is all on the film WWE made on the AWA.

  • @t.o.mcconnell4001
    @t.o.mcconnell4001 3 года назад

    I usually LOVE the artwork on The Drive-thru, but Kerry's left wrist is driving me nuts. Please fix it!

  • @adambryant9963
    @adambryant9963 3 года назад +2

    Bret, Owen, Jim, Dynamite and Davey should always have been a faction for 20+ yrs .

  • @Nirv_99
    @Nirv_99 3 года назад

    Von Erich vs Hogan

  • @jasongodfrey823
    @jasongodfrey823 3 года назад

    I always thought Vince McMahon had a hard on for World Class Championship Wrestling he knew it was gold mine hell I knew WCCW was bigger than WWF hell I was born and raised in Dallas Tx Friday and Saturday nights was all about Von Erichs.

    • @melekelewis2945
      @melekelewis2945 3 года назад

      it wasn't.bigger than wwf

    • @jasongodfrey823
      @jasongodfrey823 3 года назад

      @@melekelewis2945 OH YES THE FUCK IT WAS BIG TIME YOU BEST WATCH A FEW SHOWS

  • @user-hc9qv9yb9m
    @user-hc9qv9yb9m 3 года назад +1

    WCW poison😄

  • @exposingthebusiness3252
    @exposingthebusiness3252 3 года назад +4

    David was better than Kerry. He looked less inbred.

    • @haydenmillholland4496
      @haydenmillholland4496 3 года назад +5

      Hate speaking ill of the dead, but they all looked a little inbred

  • @richardswartz296
    @richardswartz296 2 года назад

    It may have worked for a little while but it wouldnt have lasted long i mean i love the Von Erichs but its very well documented that Kerry was on drugs. When Kerry did finally come to the wwf as the Texas Tornado that run didnt last.

  • @robertsalmi3594
    @robertsalmi3594 3 года назад

    Dood you really are not the guy that you say you! You still play your act!

  • @ravenstrahd5234
    @ravenstrahd5234 3 года назад

    WCW poisoned it... Jim Herd dumping toxic waste in Crickets swamp...

  • @RevCosmicJoe
    @RevCosmicJoe 3 года назад

    I bet the remaining Von Erich brothers will never be a part of any WWE products. I can see them in AEW for them to fully ruin.

    • @billypaceley7721
      @billypaceley7721 3 года назад +3

      There is only Kevin Von Erich left.

    • @RevCosmicJoe
      @RevCosmicJoe 3 года назад +1

      Billy Paceley Kevin has two sons who wrestle for Major League Wrestling. They all live in Hawaii.

    • @billypaceley7721
      @billypaceley7721 3 года назад +1

      @@RevCosmicJoe oh I know...im sorry i thought when you said the Von Erich Brothers i thought you meant Kevin and his bros. Im sorry.

  • @rubinbarber6781
    @rubinbarber6781 3 года назад

    World class championship wrestling and the American wrestling association merge together to become uswa next came gwf and did merge with Mid South to be called UWF then with the merging with NWA now WCW was born

  • @vincentprice9156
    @vincentprice9156 3 года назад +1

    Bruh "Von Erich Mania" woulda been the first Nwo

  • @sheriffofrockridge9095
    @sheriffofrockridge9095 3 года назад +2

    Hey

  • @stephenrogers4537
    @stephenrogers4537 3 года назад +1

    Kerry Von Erich could have been a Hulk Hogan if you stayed clean but he didn't it cost him his life😰

    • @PAPAROBBIE
      @PAPAROBBIE 3 года назад

      Kerry was good but on the mic? Nah

    • @Ijustinsultedyou
      @Ijustinsultedyou 6 месяцев назад

      Kerry could’ve never been anywhere near close to that. This is one of the most foolish downright stupidest comments I’ve ever heard. Kerry had zero ability on the microphone. He was so uncomfortable when it came to trying to cut a promo. It was absolutely awful to listen to.

  • @erickennedy906
    @erickennedy906 3 года назад +1

    Kerry would been WWF champion in 84. Shit he was wash up and got I.C. title . Von Erich was over. Crockett should use them instead of running Fritz out the NWA

    • @troyturner173
      @troyturner173 3 года назад

      Fritz ran himself out of the NWA-yes, Crockett not trusting Fritz with the belt was the reason, but Fritz didn't have to take his ball and go solo either. He could have given the AWA a much needed boost sooner than he did

  • @adolfopacey9324
    @adolfopacey9324 3 года назад +1

    Jim please watch earthlings documentary free on RUclips.
    Please consider leaving animals off your plate and showing compassion not violence towards them

    • @patsyparisi3000
      @patsyparisi3000 3 года назад +2

      😂😂😂

    • @kingrama27
      @kingrama27 3 года назад

      Stfu... animals taste good and God put them here for us to eat

    • @zakrowe1301
      @zakrowe1301 3 года назад

      @@kingrama27 humans arent built to eat animals an vast quantities, in this day and age we dont need to abuse them for our gain. Animals and their secretions are proven to lead to a wide variety of diseases in humans ranging from cancers if the digestive system, dementia and diabetes. Animal consumption and agriculture has also played the biggest part in global epidemics including covid 19.
      Ask yourself, do you think rape, torture, murder and kidnap are justifiable means for you to have a skab if steak on your plate? Do those actions align with your morals?

    • @kingrama27
      @kingrama27 3 года назад

      zak rowe meat is good and God built us to eat complex animal proteins. That’s why vegans look terrible, look unhealthy and are just plain stupid. I’m going to go eat some bacon right now loser

    • @zakrowe1301
      @zakrowe1301 3 года назад

      @@kingrama27 most vegans just look like people and statistically live longer than meat eaters. Vegans are also far healthier. Did god also build us to rape, murder, torture and kidnap vulnerable beings?

  • @renafan3333
    @renafan3333 3 года назад

    They would have been spinning their wheels in The WWF None of them would have sniffed the Heavyweight Title because of Hogan. David would have won The Intercontinental title 9 times and set arenas on fire with Randy Savage or whoever. Kevin would have been the pretty one,all the women love him but never got past mid card. Terry Taylor in 1985. Kerry would have been the guy to replace Hulk Hogan every 3 months when Vince got a thought in his head,but would never actually happen because Vince would come to his senses. That match Bret Hart had with that guy that got lost and tape traders creamed themselves over trying to find it? Instead of the other guy it would have been Kerry.

  • @tonymatrisin4328
    @tonymatrisin4328 3 года назад

    Von Erich's>Cowgirls

  • @mangamegs
    @mangamegs 3 года назад

    All kerry had over Hogan was the movie star/ rocker look.

  • @ShortArmStrongArm
    @ShortArmStrongArm 3 года назад +1

    Jim Cornette is the Vince Russo of the 1970s.

    • @insupportofjunhado
      @insupportofjunhado 3 года назад

      Aren't they the same age? Or do you mean one had thirty years of success and the other had three?

  • @lezliealabaster7425
    @lezliealabaster7425 3 года назад +3

    Jim please stop eating animals, they feel pain just like your dog that you love, all taste buds are created by our parents.

    • @markabboud8564
      @markabboud8564 3 года назад +7

      Lezlie Alabaster Leslie please stop telling people how to live their lives. Worry about yourself and don’t act like Adolph and tell others what’s right and wrong. That’s all subjective to the individual

    • @lezliealabaster7425
      @lezliealabaster7425 3 года назад

      @@markabboud8564 me and the murdered animals disagree!!!

    • @tomr3422
      @tomr3422 3 года назад +4

      @@lezliealabaster7425 Do the murdered animals Tell you they disagree? If not how do you know they do.

    • @Dr170
      @Dr170 3 года назад +1

      I'll keep you in my prayers when I eat some animals later.

    • @brian9670
      @brian9670 3 года назад +2

      Triple Cheese, extra cheese, mayo, pickles, onions ONLY