I guess Concord is another example of really piss poor management only this one ended up being one of the worst failures in gaming. Somehow this reminds me of what happened to Anthem except these devs didn’t waste years of development doing nothing like BioWare did.
Concord failing to the tune of 400m has to hurt all their pride. Having to watch Marvel Rivals succeed right after probably put a lot of them on wellness check lists.
I am sure some of them must have been devesated tbh, maybe not because of Rivals, but being part of the biggest failure in history. Thats gotta be tough on the ego.
Correction: Smash JT is not being sued for "harassment". The course of action in Alyssa Mercante's lawsuit is defamation. And the specific claim that she is suing on is that he called her a sex worker. You criticized Smash for getting his facts wrong in the same breath as you do this. Don't throw stones while you're in a glass house.
sorry i forgot what he was getting sued for lol. Doesn’t change how wrong he was about Concord. I guess i can throw stones because i am not getting sued by anyone.
@@McdizzleGamingyou also forgot "sued" The case hasn't been aproved to move forward yet, it can be outright dismissed (according to actual lawyers, the papers pushed are outrageous legal-wise, amateur hour) Correct term is that Alyssa started legal action, but that's it
@ How do I know you are telling any truth at all if you got even publicly-known facts wrong? What's your guarantee that you have not been BSing this entire video? You already admitted to lying once. What's once more?
@ No lies, ha. You can think what you want. I have a small channel but have always been Trustworthy. Look up Smash and Amico and see if he can say the same. All you can do is make your own assessment as well as you can!
@ My assessment is that BOTH of you are making shit up for the same monetary motivation. You are just less successful at swindling people. If you are willing to lie for money, at least be competent about it.
Fair enough about JT Smash, but what's your opinion about his suer, Alyssa Mercante, harassing his wife and doxxing his family's address, putting them, including the kids, at risk for physical harm?
@@McdizzleGaming Don't you think that her behaviour as a whole towards SJT is closer to harassment than what Smash JT did? I'm sure you've seen all Smash JT videos, but are you aware of her demeanour? This is someone that, while working as a gaming journalist, called a major developer "dickhead" to his face, completely unprompted and for no reason.
@@McdizzleGaming making videos on someone adressing stuff that they have done, and not good stuff at that, is not harassment, ON THE OTHER HAND, doxing is not only harassment, it's also illegal
It does require a "gamers background" for a developer to be able to get whats important for the gameplay dynamics and diversity. How could somebody be able to measure whats the impact of a grenade is if their whole "experience" is drawing lines on a tablet or worse, writing numbers in an excel spreadsheet.
This is a becoming a bit of a trend in the industry where they want to force a “franchise” from a game before it’s anywhere near ready or proof of concept. But even when they do have an extremely popular IP they still fall into this pitfall of “franchization” and compartmentalise the game into separate mediums. To give you an idea what I’m talking about. Concord is a team based hero shooter. But the majority of focus and attention is on a large spanning narrative. A narrative that isn’t in the game when you play it. Instead you would have to browse essentially a wiki in that menu screen. Or watch short (and EXPENSIVE) animation segments. Or no doubt, read books/graphic novels. A bunch of different things, to serve a narrative for a game, completely separate to the medium of video games and you don’t even really see that reflected in the game. (Maybe a new map, but fundamentally it’s still just the same 5v5 shooter every time) Another example for a more popular IP, Halo. In 5 it’s complete tonal whiplash for the average player who just enjoyed the main titles. Because now there’s a whole new generation of Spartans that can be made now? And cortanas gone crazy and activated guardians to destroy the galaxy?! Holy fuck, in infinite (6) now cortana is DEAD?! And the…banished are taking over? Who are they? What about the guardians?! What happened to the Spartans?! What happened to the DIDACT?! Where’s the flood?!?! All because you didn’t read the novels and play the spin offs. If you aim for this you just create a disjointed mess that requires homework and being fucked over on money for games and books you don’t even want…just to know what’s going on in your fps. So trying that with your UNKNOWN IP is just doomed from the start
Nailed it! Those are some great examples! Like, I played alot of Halo Infinite MP, and there was some narrative, but not being a massive expert in Halo lore, I didn't care. In fact, I think they changed the way they tried to drive a narrative as well because it doesn't seem to be a major driving force around pvp games. Yea, they were doomed from the start and i think they lost the plot on priorities during dev that would have might have given the game a shot.
I think they want to do something like from mortal kombat's 3D era where the lore is through comics, konquest and krypt unlockables. But in order to do that you need likeable and interesting characters.
Lets assume "The Professor" wasn't at fault or at least not at most fault, then *who* decided it would be great to make the most Ugly Character's ever for a Hero Shooter and *who* decided it would be smart to ignore all the valid Critc/Feedback Players gave as either "white noise" aka. Stupid Haters or let a Dev rent free on Twitter insult everyone that critics the Game as "Talentless Freaks"? Reminder the Person he said that to was nice, didnt insult him, just said "It came at the wrong time and Genre, im sorry for you." Concord was a Fusion of every wrong decision combined. And therefore deserved it's failure.
I'm sorry but how is Sony the villain in all this? I would call it the sucker, for having poured coffers full of money into the project. Sony gave too much freedom to its western management (i.e. PlayStation), it's time for Japan to rein it in. Also, I don't like how the elefant in the room (the awful character design) was barely mentioned, especially after you've shown a tweet that heavily implies that it was mandated by corporate management. That's part of corporate meddling.
"Concord devs speak out"! Well ok, but more important, why should I listen?! That game was disaster, that was enforced by somebody. Then nobody opposed them, continued "earning their paychecks" and then the flop entered the room. Now I should stop myself, turn around and listen to the same group of developers, for why the development was hellhole, why the game had the things that it had and why I should care about someone elses problems created at their own workplace?! If a developer has problems with their workplace, call HR, call the boss, call the police, quit that damn job. Why the consumer should care how you do your work if you do it willingly?! Should the consumer get paid for every time they have to endure "corpo - bad" talks?!
@ it was all about broken promises at the end of the day. And when ever someone brings up Matt Hanson trying to sabotage his company’s upcoming game (avowed), the first thing that comes to my mind is when Grummz did the same BS with Red5 studios (Firefall)
How's that "talentless freaks" comment working out for you, Concord dev? LMAO Looks like the "I am the Main Character" syndrome struck that dev hard, and tbf that's probably fine, especially when someone puts in the work. But to then attack players for giving constructive criticism about your output? Zero sympathy for your blind arrogance and the predictable result stemming from it. The only surprise is the alacrity-12 days!-it took for HQ to shut it down. In the immortal words of Joker, "you get what you deserve!" You worked hard for nothing. Well, there's something: a $400M loss.
I like how Smash says "they told us what to do, I had to, gun to my head!" in which I guess he's implying that poor management is always the fault of the employees because they could just ignore their directions?
Which confirms that the DEI unlikable character design is imposed from above. That's part of the corporate meddling. Many anonymous artists spoke about this over the years, and one time even a named developer, Del Walker, accidentally confirmed it on twitter.
It's revenge time let's get Concordian ....I feel so represented. If only they had more people from Wizards of the Coast. We all know how loved Hasbro is is nowadays. This is all making more sense (Especially the art by committee). Good art starts with a great vision. Not trying to jump on a bandwagon. And with this type of game, it's all about enticement. People should want to play your characters and get lured into the world. Sony made it obvious they wanted a part of this market.
Lower points, Smash? Bruh, even the Uber Dash and Door Dash I get when I order get lots a praise than I would give that guy who would say, "it's the lowest point," when at least you're getting paid. 😂
The most important elements here SHOULD BE - any developer of A GAME should be PLAYING games!!!! There is no "rule Nr.1 dont test the product" here. Understanding games and gaming should be Nr.1 CV requirements.
If you ever pay attention to game credits after beating any large budget game, there are hundreds of names. Most of those names are related to the art, animation, music and voice acting. The ACTUAL programmers responsible for how the game plays and functions, a team of 20, maybe 40 if they work on different aspects.
Interesting note! The credits are long because everyone from Sony Interactive Entertainment is on there - regardless of contribution if I understood correctly from guy I talked to. Didn't include that in video, but something I found out.
@@McdizzleGaming We have long ago known that the credit roll is inflated but that's not what I was referring to. I was referring to the vast gap between the people who actually build the core functions of the game versus say the animators or visual artists. The number of people responsible for how the game looks has grown vastly while the people responsible for how the game functions has barely grown in size not including the random contract work. The ballooning gaming budgets have nothing to do with how the game plays and everything to do with how the game looks.
This was a good video that stuck to the facts and didn't try and say," Concord didn't get a fair chance." You are doing a lot of what Matt Mcmuscles does and I respect that. I also say ignore the haters but good on you for owning up to your mistake on getting some Smash information wrong. It's odd how some people act about that.
Lmao sounds like concord levels of copium and shitsmearing (blaming it on the directors F'ing each other is beyond pathetic). This game's failure is on the art team and they know it. Almost as petty and weaselly as making 1/3 of this video about Smash JT, come to think of it.
LOL, you dont think someone being really unqualified for the role and to find out they are fing the director is important? Sure, the characters were ugly, but Art teams dont just make a character indepently , they are taking direction. Should they have said something, did something different, sure. I mean, Smash was saying contradictory things and quite off the mark, glad to call it out.
I truly think they should have spent some time with the concept art more, there was a lot of variants of the characters that they had on 2d that looked WAY better and more balanced artistically before they even got to the expensive 3d modeling .
Well i get what they are saying. But I'm also aware nobody is going to say: "it was my fault, i fucked up". Im thinking there was probably a lot of different reasons the game failed. Im guessing that was one of the reasons the company was killed. They screwd up, and nobody really knows why. Management meddling, toxic positivity, wrong allocation of resources, feedback shutdown, and inflated ego, lack of communication, can all happen at the same time, and only be observed by a section of employes that disagree with that particular point. I hope everyone's next project is more successful.
just an fyi the guy behind the reload animations is Anim_xander the concord developer who called everyone who wouldnt play the game talentless freaks or smth its been a while but thats just insane
@@KazeShikamaruwhat do you mean off base i saw the fallout myself on twitter it wasnt out of context they were legit consoling him saying it propably wasnt his fault but then he just called them talentless freak thats when people started hating the concord developers most people thought it was awful management before that tweet went out atleast i did
@@KazeShikamaru copy pasted the tweet that i personally saw people didnt have a negative view until they crashed out on twitter Talentless freaks?? I actually came to drop some positive criticism but get fucked. Clearly based on the game, you're the one with no talent
@ edit just got a video from this smash jt in my recommended hes saying cdpr ceo is lying about sweet baby or smth yeah i get where youre coming from hes a grifter witcher 3 was great im not writing the witcher 4 off yet
I am really loving the investigative stuff from you more , its nice as honestly the main stream is so tainted now, left/right it is a absolute fucking mess esp in Gaming news spaces
Great video and info from the Concord devs! Smash and his goons love to point the finger at one single person on a team when shitting on a game. They did it with Indiana Jones and Concord and it's just so silly that he actually thinks that one human being can destroy an entire game like this. If that were the case, he should be able to admit that Grummz is never going to put out Em8er. Anyway keep up the great investigative work!
Soooo ... Smash is lying, because YOUR anonymous source told you something different than HIS anonymous source?? Yeah, I'm afraid you need a little more to sound convincing. Especially when you decide to go full insulting on other doing the same thing as you, who - as far as you might know - are just given different information by different people, leading them to a different conclusion. In such cases, it is rarely the more abrasive person who is telling closer to the truth
Well, I think the claims from Smash about "everyone being forced to call someone "Professor" are easily proved incorrect. I have talked to enough people to know it cant be everybody. He may have talked to someone but his assessment of the impact on Concord of "Prof" is way off. Believe it if you want or not. You could make the argument that Smash reporting on an ground floor employee incorrectly could be pretty abrasive.
I remember watching that first trailer and being so annoyed by the characters and their dialogue. Typical forced-quirkiness and obnoxious facial movements on everyone.
I dont think Smash is the one being sued for harrasment. Youre the one calling someone out for not having their facts straight but ironically somehow still didnt manage to get your facts straight. Top kek. Lets all lick the boots of the ground level developers instead.
Wait... so you are putting Smash JT on blast, for doing precisely what you yourself are doing here right now? And you are doing this, based purely on the word of an anon source who has every reason to lie to you about this whole situation? Smash JT's videos on Concord ALSO came from an anon whisteblower from within Firewalk studios. So why should i belive your source over his? Especially now that they have every reason to try and wash their hands of this disaster, and pass the buck? Make it make sense.
Sure, Smash was wrong namely in his assessment of Profs impact to the downfall of Concord, they didn't create the character designs, wern't close to leadership. That is why one source intially reached out to me. This source is already employed again, were not part of art and didn't really have any skin in the game. I talked to 3 people (a 4th reached out to me the other day, I have actually asked for some internal documentation to mitigate questions about it being fake), all confirmed to have worked there and very similar information re: Prof. Smash could have had a source, but a few things from it didn't align with what my sources said, namley "Everyone was forced to call them Professor", they worked there and never had to do that? Was somebody forced to do that? I don't know, but if its somebody, say somebody, not everybody. I get your skeptisim, but thats the best I can do to address it.
Kim was a big part of it, Ryan was a big part of it, so were other leadership. I would like to think I reported what I was told without adding additional editorial sexism like just about everyone else would.
not the woke stuf?????? ahhahahaha just looking at these abomination of character design and liberals think not the woke stuff hahahaha , no gamer will play a game with these characters ever especially when most of us are right leaning, im not even american (argentine) i despise what the western left are doing to gaming but , go woke go broke im pretty sure many of concord devs are out of the industry forever
Either way, it's probably from people that made videogames their whole personality and all the nonsense baggage it entails. I could be wrong though. What do I know.
It's hard to pinpoint what were the major issues and causes for Concord's failure and while I have heard a bunch of reasons, excuses or not, the big one of "management" is always one that I can't wrap my entire head around. Like yes, I understand that Sony and upper management was likely a big factor but there were definitely key issues, way beyond the narrative, that were key factors in the demise of the game. Even the gameplay, although decent, had many problems, especially with pacing and movement. The only thing I would say that was good about the gameplay was the gunplay, everything else was bad or mediocre. Character design was obviously a huge factor that never really got addressed. Comparing to a similar game, at least in terms of scope and situation, is Veilguard. Veilguard was obviously able to capitalize on the DA IP but the combat, though shallow, felt way more fluid than Concord and the character designs, though not great, were way more serviceable than Concord's best design. I think the character interactions and personalities were much worse in Veilguard, but the story was definitely better. Obviously we're comparing apples to oranges here but I think there are some universal game concepts that need to be nailed that Veilguard did (although the other issues with the games prevented it from being a breakout success), mainly the gameplay and overall aesthetic.
No way! Floor level devs are not the ones making the final decisions? Are you sure because RUclipsrs like Smash has "sources" that blame Prof Brown for everything. I mean look at her. Its obviously all her fault! Smash hasn't had a job in a corporate setting like this and wouldn't know proper interactions between employees, management and beyond. Imagine blaming devs and not looking into management. Thats Smash for you. Anyways, great video. Keep up the good work.
Prof Brown is leadership level, not "floor" level I fail to see how this video "confirms" other CCs are wrong, when it sounds more they are right, just exagerated in how they convey the info
Honestly, thats probably accurate, however, I know in this case Management were the owns owning alot of critical decisions. They all played a part in it, some more then others.
@ no doubt the management and leadership carries the weight of the failure. Also, like you pointed out in your video, there seem to have been bright spots from some areas of development. But this has got to be the biggest flop in all of gaming history. imo everyone carries some of the blame for that, unfortunate for them or not.
being able to say no to bad ideas is an important factor of competence. We don't know what they did at those other companies, but it's obvious the new combination of those people was a catastrophic failure. I think everyone can be right in this case though, there were hundreds of people at firewalk, some of them may have not wanted to call prof prof and were forced to, and others had no issue with it. The animators were definitely good at their jobs but it was sadly all for nothing
Agreed with the saying no thing, i didn’t include it in the video but in talking to source they did state it was so tough to get feedback across , and they spoke to the exceptional soft skills you would have to have to influence management. I think that skill was underrated. It’s not a question of calling prof prof, but more with the reporting of “Everyone was forced to call them “The Professor”, i don’t doubt they changed their name from Lisa to prof, weird sure, but it’s a far cry from making Everyone call them “The Professor” especially if the people that i talked to work there just as long. Could Prof asked people to call them Prof, probably but again much different then what Smash portrayed. Yea, animators and a bunch of people def know what they are doing, it shows by how many have gotten hired so far and quickly by aaa studios.
Well SHIT!! World builder that plays as "GOD". Who could imagine that, lol. Making map assets and map layouts is indeed important, but if the coding department doesnt back that up, you are just a "digital painter". The terms "empty world" and "dead world" do have their origin, guess what it is?! Doing your part is indeed important, but if that part ends up dead in the water, who will care if you invested 1000 hours or more into the making?!
if you have "anonymous sources" it doesn't change jack shit. Because you both can provide "anonymous" sources that none of us can check, what we can check and some actually did was the result of the work being done. Work so bad that the project was killed in less than 2 WEEKS. And yeah, the "woke" stuff was not the "only" thing that killed it but it at least affected the character design (which was just dogshit) a lot and this is not something you can deny because while the game is dead, we can still look up videos of characters. I love when the game studios are putting stuff like the "pronounse" nonsense and act like they are literally the emperor saying that "you will bend the knee!" and then when it turns out that people didn't actually bend the knee they start crying. Fuck this game, fuck that studio and everything around it. I am really astunned that we came from games like Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, Star Craft 2 to this piece of shit. And I am really, really tired of all those excuses. Either make games that people actually want to play or don't make them at all.
She's literally credited as "The professor" in the end credit. I get that you don't like these guys, but you don't have to lie. And it's okay not to know, but don't just make sh!t up. She also had a senior leadership role, meaning that she was above MANY people who she probably terrorised, maybe not those who allegedly contacted you (no offence but at worst you're getting bamboozled here, at best, they are who they say they are, and have an incentive shifting the blame to upper management as they're out of a job). If your main motivation for making these video is being an opposition to a side, might as well stop the pretence and just come out as woke. There is no middle ground when we're talking about an ideology that castrates ch!ldren. You don't like Smash, you don't like Grummz, that's okay, it's not a reason to go and side with the side that came up with "MAP"... You can not like Smash AND be against gen!tal mut!lation on children at the same time, you know... I can't think of a stupider reason to become woke that "Grummz is making a bad game"...
He isn't woke dude. He has constantly just been about facts to a point even people who are friends with Grummz have taken an interest to what he is doing. He is just reporting on what actually happened and debunking actual lies.
@@McdizzleGaming Damn, you untangled my web of lies lol. Case dismissed, it's "Prof" and not "The Professor" which are two completely different things. What a way to lose a debate, it was spectacular! I'm not even mad I lost lol It's "Prof" in the credits and not "The Professor", therefore everything else, even unrelated is also false... Got it. Really, dude?... That's how you deal with this argument? Really? So I said "The Professor" and therefore I'm lying because it's "ackchually Prof SMH"? Okay... But what if I double check and find that it's "ackchually Prof Brown SMH" and not just "Prof"? Would that me you lied, too? ... hmmm someone should check... Yep, it's "Prof Brown" and it neither proves or disprove what the whistle-blowers have said. You're a bad faith actor. Good luck growing your channel with anything else but haters.
@@McdizzleGaming my friend, you are accusing someone who is (in your opinion) telling lies based upon an anonymous source (JT) but you are just the same, you both don't have any sources. Can you step up your game without talking about fried air?
With actual failures like Concord. It good to know what REALLY KILLED the game. I am sure the cringe WOKE stuff made it worse, but I've notice a trend with games like this, Forspoken being another one, it seem like when they aren't sure of the product they put a sheen of progressive politics to try to 'distract' from the real problem. There is many other elements that could be a play, ESG money or just more run of mill corparate pandering, but I am not going to be arrogant enough to claim to know the truth of the matter there and the responsible for that should be place on those in leadership roles and not on those they hired in cases like that.
And as long as the culture war bullshit is all people on social media care about the actual problems inherent to the industry will remain untouched But I guess you can also just scream "WOKE" everytime you see a black character, that's good too
I mean the cringe woke stuff amounted to what…pronouns in character descriptions and female characters that weren’t completely Bimbofied like they would’ve been in Chinese hands? Clearly the issue was management.
The game itself was bad. There are some good ideas but very poor execution. That being said. The talent was clearly there in many aspects. Just not the game itself.
I agree, it would make things easier, but I also understand how they might not want to deal with the online mob..lol. I don't mind though ha, or I think in some cases, likley breaking NDA's
@McdizzleGaming I just wish one would come out. Not wishing any harm or things of that nature. But when that one artist pointed out his job purposefully uglyfying his work, he came out on social to vent. One comment made a huge wave. Then he was snuffed by the powers that be. Imagine if we just had 3 of those. The credibility will always suffer if they remain anonymous. Reasonable doubt.
@@troyl200 I mean in Journalism as someone who has studied people have a right to have their privacy protected. Sadly you wanting names isn't going to protect someone from getting black ball. I fully get you but at the same time one Journalism class reveals to you why it is important to protect sources and why a lot of sources are private. I'll leave you with this. The Watergate story took off and the major source behind "Deepthroat" was on deep background for that story. He was never quoted at all but it was with his information those two journalists were able to break such a big story. So it isn't impossible to influence change with breaking major stories.
I'm sorry but nobody wants to hear anything from these losers. Their characters were God awful, the game modes are boring and bland, in the game offered nothing unique or value. Glad it's dead and so are devs.
Thank god a relatively unbiased video on this instead of “concord bad, devs bad”, so sick of these grifters who have to call everything they don’t like woke and just jump on every bandwagon
@@ricardordz7538 I wouldn't say it's band wagon jumping, he criticizes 'culture war' nutjobs, calls out harrasment of developers, praises the talent, animations etc. That and he's not even going in the same direction as it, and actually thinking for himself
Thanks for giving us the full story here, dude. And why am I not surprise groms and smash jt or rather a line or exaggerating? The truth groom said this exact same thing with stellar blade artist. When an artist drew eve in a way that people didn't like, he made a big deal about even when the artist apologized. And redrew, it smash still found the way to make it into a problem
Very well put together. I like the more fair and well researched analysis of what went wrong with the game that isn't just trying to farm anti woke points
The truth about concord is that the dev team was a mix of very talented and very untalented people. On the technical side there were many talented people obviously but when you look at the game design side, there was nothing there. Nothing in concord's gameplay is new or different from other games in the genre and what was different like the hero variant system were awful ideas that lead absolutely nowhere and were just different for the sake of being different and not because they were any good. Then you look at the art side and the environment artists were very good but the character artists produced some of the worst designs in modern gaming history. Management was completely useless. They should've served as filters for all the bad stuff, and had absolutely zero vision for this product as a GAME that people had to actually play. Instead they had a clear vision for this game as a product that they wanted people to buy.
It appears that Kimberly Kreines is indeed a talented writer; however, the issue was that she was dedicating significant resources to crafting an expansive story for an untested shooter, not an RPG.
lol you really love to bend and drift around the point even if you are just a dime away. You posted Amanda's response "failure of leadership to listen to the art team" sounds like leadership has an agenda, could it be a WOKE agenda why they kept focusing on Narrative? How many times you mention Narrative along this video and you keep repeating all the focus was on Narrative rather than gaming. Most development was focused on the map viewer they said, then why isnt the map viewer as impressive as the gender-less background the game has if it was all the focus. Things are not adding up. Ignoring the fact she made everyone call her Prof and not Lisa, which Prof is short for Prof. and your source probably omitted the period in Prof. , there's the part she was looking for work. That random youtubers point STILL stands!! Prof. 's posts were hatred on gamers and her product utterly demonstrated she sucked at her job, why would she come back to the thing she sucks at working for the audience she SHOULD cater to but instead she hates. Makes NO SENSE!!!
Apart from your clear jealousy of my two dogs, your story sounds complete BS because Sony would have just "retired" Kim or Ryan or both not dump the game and studio. But have fun clout chasing.
LOL, I don't know what to tell you man. They did end up demoting Ryan before the studio closed, I know that. No clout chasing here but just as Journalists need to be held accountable for misinformation, so do the "new journalists" like Smash. Sorry you don't want to believe this!
How is it so unthinkable that Sony would just cut their losses? The studio was essentially just deadweight and they'd just be burning more money if they kept them afloat for whatever reason.
@valmiro4164 Because if the team was sooo great but spoiled by Kim and Ryan "relationship" claimed here, Sony would have kept the studio, they didn't implying the whole studio was a feminist echo chamber, lacking professionalism. IMO this video is slander and liable because it's pure fiction with zero proof of their relationship.
Ah yes me before knowing if I enjoyed a video, doing call of action at start of the video won't make the video enjoyablity worst... No it will make video ejoyability worst.
The game was sooooo good it died in two week, i mean those animations were fire!!! you are so right about those very naughty youtuber Who Know nothing right. And those brave dev Who did attack the bad, bad , bad gamer. Clown.
Hahaha very professionnal i took that you got nothing no proof, Nada. and you make it look like smash destroyed the game. but you can continue attacking people, clown. My source, i made it the f Up.
@@jim0jimmylee810 LOL, the brainrot my dude. LOL, Where did I make it look like Smash destroyed the game? I just called out his lies with real dev feedback. Where is his proof?
all i have to say is, sucks to suck. concord looked like something id see everyone at the nursing home playing cuz someones grandchild donated it. ggs lmao
Thank you for your comments! Might have a follow up video on this, stay tuned ;)
Well there character design is why they failed, nobody wants to play ugly characters
Trevor Philipps from GTA 5 is ugly but still pretty cool.
You never go full concord
My fav part was when they said "We have entered the Concord"
😂😂😂
I guess Concord is another example of really piss poor management only this one ended up being one of the worst failures in gaming. Somehow this reminds me of what happened to Anthem except these devs didn’t waste years of development doing nothing like BioWare did.
Concord failing to the tune of 400m has to hurt all their pride. Having to watch Marvel Rivals succeed right after probably put a lot of them on wellness check lists.
I am sure some of them must have been devesated tbh, maybe not because of Rivals, but being part of the biggest failure in history. Thats gotta be tough on the ego.
Now they can't say that the game failed because the genre was old and oversaturated anymore, Rivals came in and did *everything* right.
I was thinking about this when Marvels exploded 😂
Good
@ "hey, I was part of the modern E.T." sure is for the books..
Smash has. Lawsuit from Alyssa Mercante i know for a fact. To be fair though Alyssa did start it by trying to get JTs wife involved
Sounds like someone was busy creating the IP instead of making a game.
Correction: Smash JT is not being sued for "harassment". The course of action in Alyssa Mercante's lawsuit is defamation. And the specific claim that she is suing on is that he called her a sex worker. You criticized Smash for getting his facts wrong in the same breath as you do this. Don't throw stones while you're in a glass house.
sorry i forgot what he was getting sued for lol. Doesn’t change how wrong he was about Concord. I guess i can throw stones because i am not getting sued by anyone.
@@McdizzleGamingyou also forgot "sued"
The case hasn't been aproved to move forward yet, it can be outright dismissed (according to actual lawyers, the papers pushed are outrageous legal-wise, amateur hour)
Correct term is that Alyssa started legal action, but that's it
@ How do I know you are telling any truth at all if you got even publicly-known facts wrong? What's your guarantee that you have not been BSing this entire video? You already admitted to lying once. What's once more?
@ No lies, ha. You can think what you want. I have a small channel but have always been Trustworthy. Look up Smash and Amico and see if he can say the same. All you can do is make your own assessment as well as you can!
@ My assessment is that BOTH of you are making shit up for the same monetary motivation. You are just less successful at swindling people. If you are willing to lie for money, at least be competent about it.
Fair enough about JT Smash, but what's your opinion about his suer, Alyssa Mercante, harassing his wife and doxxing his family's address, putting them, including the kids, at risk for physical harm?
I don't think Alyssa should have messaged his wife that one time she messaged them months ago, nor did should she have shared his addy.
@@McdizzleGaming Don't you think that her behaviour as a whole towards SJT is closer to harassment than what Smash JT did?
I'm sure you've seen all Smash JT videos, but are you aware of her demeanour? This is someone that, while working as a gaming journalist, called a major developer "dickhead" to his face, completely unprompted and for no reason.
@@McdizzleGaming making videos on someone adressing stuff that they have done, and not good stuff at that, is not harassment, ON THE OTHER HAND, doxing is not only harassment, it's also illegal
It does require a "gamers background" for a developer to be able to get whats important for the gameplay dynamics and diversity. How could somebody be able to measure whats the impact of a grenade is if their whole "experience" is drawing lines on a tablet or worse, writing numbers in an excel spreadsheet.
This is a becoming a bit of a trend in the industry where they want to force a “franchise” from a game before it’s anywhere near ready or proof of concept.
But even when they do have an extremely popular IP they still fall into this pitfall of “franchization” and compartmentalise the game into separate mediums.
To give you an idea what I’m talking about. Concord is a team based hero shooter. But the majority of focus and attention is on a large spanning narrative. A narrative that isn’t in the game when you play it.
Instead you would have to browse essentially a wiki in that menu screen. Or watch short (and EXPENSIVE) animation segments. Or no doubt, read books/graphic novels.
A bunch of different things, to serve a narrative for a game, completely separate to the medium of video games and you don’t even really see that reflected in the game. (Maybe a new map, but fundamentally it’s still just the same 5v5 shooter every time)
Another example for a more popular IP, Halo.
In 5 it’s complete tonal whiplash for the average player who just enjoyed the main titles. Because now there’s a whole new generation of Spartans that can be made now? And cortanas gone crazy and activated guardians to destroy the galaxy?!
Holy fuck, in infinite (6) now cortana is DEAD?! And the…banished are taking over? Who are they? What about the guardians?! What happened to the Spartans?! What happened to the DIDACT?! Where’s the flood?!?!
All because you didn’t read the novels and play the spin offs.
If you aim for this you just create a disjointed mess that requires homework and being fucked over on money for games and books you don’t even want…just to know what’s going on in your fps.
So trying that with your UNKNOWN IP is just doomed from the start
Nailed it! Those are some great examples! Like, I played alot of Halo Infinite MP, and there was some narrative, but not being a massive expert in Halo lore, I didn't care. In fact, I think they changed the way they tried to drive a narrative as well because it doesn't seem to be a major driving force around pvp games. Yea, they were doomed from the start and i think they lost the plot on priorities during dev that would have might have given the game a shot.
I think they want to do something like from mortal kombat's 3D era where the lore is through comics, konquest and krypt unlockables. But in order to do that you need likeable and interesting characters.
It is like putting the cart before the carriage.
nah, it failed because the characters were uggo af. no cap. thats why i didnt play it.
Lets assume "The Professor" wasn't at fault or at least not at most fault, then *who* decided it would be great to make the most Ugly Character's ever for a Hero Shooter and *who* decided it would be smart to ignore all the valid Critc/Feedback Players gave as either "white noise" aka. Stupid Haters or let a Dev rent free on Twitter insult everyone that critics the Game as "Talentless Freaks"? Reminder the Person he said that to was nice, didnt insult him, just said "It came at the wrong time and Genre, im sorry for you." Concord was a Fusion of every wrong decision combined. And therefore deserved it's failure.
Great Reporting. I'm glad to hear the truth about this game.
I'm sorry but how is Sony the villain in all this? I would call it the sucker, for having poured coffers full of money into the project. Sony gave too much freedom to its western management (i.e. PlayStation), it's time for Japan to rein it in.
Also, I don't like how the elefant in the room (the awful character design) was barely mentioned, especially after you've shown a tweet that heavily implies that it was mandated by corporate management. That's part of corporate meddling.
"Concord devs speak out"! Well ok, but more important, why should I listen?!
That game was disaster, that was enforced by somebody. Then nobody opposed them, continued "earning their paychecks" and then the flop entered the room.
Now I should stop myself, turn around and listen to the same group of developers, for why the development was hellhole, why the game had the things that it had and why I should care about someone elses problems created at their own workplace?!
If a developer has problems with their workplace, call HR, call the boss, call the police, quit that damn job. Why the consumer should care how you do your work if you do it willingly?!
Should the consumer get paid for every time they have to endure "corpo - bad" talks?!
Did someone hurt you?
You haven't work a day on your life..
Speaking of Grummz, I’m surprised you never talked about the Firefall debacle (especially the Pimp My Ride bus)
I did! I drew some Parrells between the two projects!
@@McdizzleGaming K, TheUpperEchelon did not deserve the hate from that video
@ Agreed, he made a comparison that people weren't ready for. NIce guy, probably chatted with him for like an hour when he was putting together video
@ it was all about broken promises at the end of the day. And when ever someone brings up Matt Hanson trying to sabotage his company’s upcoming game (avowed), the first thing that comes to my mind is when Grummz did the same BS with Red5 studios (Firefall)
How's that "talentless freaks" comment working out for you, Concord dev? LMAO Looks like the "I am the Main Character" syndrome struck that dev hard, and tbf that's probably fine, especially when someone puts in the work. But to then attack players for giving constructive criticism about your output? Zero sympathy for your blind arrogance and the predictable result stemming from it. The only surprise is the alacrity-12 days!-it took for HQ to shut it down. In the immortal words of Joker, "you get what you deserve!" You worked hard for nothing. Well, there's something: a $400M loss.
I like how Smash says "they told us what to do, I had to, gun to my head!" in which I guess he's implying that poor management is always the fault of the employees because they could just ignore their directions?
Also I will say Concord has a lot of bad elements, but the hero kit design has always looked pretty solid and interesting
Which confirms that the DEI unlikable character design is imposed from above. That's part of the corporate meddling. Many anonymous artists spoke about this over the years, and one time even a named developer, Del Walker, accidentally confirmed it on twitter.
There was no talent on concord 😂
Dude sounds geh.
Being loving a lot of the journalism this is the way to do it
It's revenge time let's get Concordian
....I feel so represented. If only they had more people from Wizards of the Coast. We all know how loved Hasbro is is nowadays. This is all making more sense (Especially the art by committee).
Good art starts with a great vision. Not trying to jump on a bandwagon. And with this type of game, it's all about enticement. People should want to play your characters and get lured into the world.
Sony made it obvious they wanted a part of this market.
Lower points, Smash? Bruh, even the Uber Dash and Door Dash I get when I order get lots a praise than I would give that guy who would say, "it's the lowest point," when at least you're getting paid. 😂
The most important elements here SHOULD BE - any developer of A GAME should be PLAYING games!!!! There is no "rule Nr.1 dont test the product" here. Understanding games and gaming should be Nr.1 CV requirements.
so.. COncording Time??
If you ever pay attention to game credits after beating any large budget game, there are hundreds of names. Most of those names are related to the art, animation, music and voice acting.
The ACTUAL programmers responsible for how the game plays and functions, a team of 20, maybe 40 if they work on different aspects.
Interesting note! The credits are long because everyone from Sony Interactive Entertainment is on there - regardless of contribution if I understood correctly from guy I talked to. Didn't include that in video, but something I found out.
@@McdizzleGaming We have long ago known that the credit roll is inflated but that's not what I was referring to.
I was referring to the vast gap between the people who actually build the core functions of the game versus say the animators or visual artists. The number of people responsible for how the game looks has grown vastly while the people responsible for how the game functions has barely grown in size not including the random contract work.
The ballooning gaming budgets have nothing to do with how the game plays and everything to do with how the game looks.
This was a good video that stuck to the facts and didn't try and say," Concord didn't get a fair chance." You are doing a lot of what Matt Mcmuscles does and I respect that. I also say ignore the haters but good on you for owning up to your mistake on getting some Smash information wrong. It's odd how some people act about that.
Lmao sounds like concord levels of copium and shitsmearing (blaming it on the directors F'ing each other is beyond pathetic). This game's failure is on the art team and they know it.
Almost as petty and weaselly as making 1/3 of this video about Smash JT, come to think of it.
LOL, you dont think someone being really unqualified for the role and to find out they are fing the director is important? Sure, the characters were ugly, but Art teams dont just make a character indepently , they are taking direction. Should they have said something, did something different, sure.
I mean, Smash was saying contradictory things and quite off the mark, glad to call it out.
@@McdizzleGaming All I'm hearing is a gossiping little biatch 😉
Smash "amico superfan" JT
Nobody can't tell me that Concord's gunfeel, gunplay and animations weren't SUBLIME, excellent stuff is like MW 2019 levels of peak FPS animation.
I truly think they should have spent some time with the concept art more, there was a lot of variants of the characters that they had on 2d that looked WAY better and more balanced artistically before they even got to the expensive 3d modeling .
Why your saying smash is wrong he just going off what his sources said so why are you attacking him like they asked you to do it
Well i get what they are saying. But I'm also aware nobody is going to say: "it was my fault, i fucked up". Im thinking there was probably a lot of different reasons the game failed. Im guessing that was one of the reasons the company was killed.
They screwd up, and nobody really knows why. Management meddling, toxic positivity, wrong allocation of resources, feedback shutdown, and inflated ego, lack of communication, can all happen at the same time, and only be observed by a section of employes that disagree with that particular point.
I hope everyone's next project is more successful.
That is the same thing.
just an fyi the guy behind the reload animations is Anim_xander the concord developer who called everyone who wouldnt play the game talentless freaks or smth its been a while but thats just insane
Yeah that is off base too.
@@KazeShikamaruwhat do you mean off base i saw the fallout myself on twitter it wasnt out of context they were legit consoling him saying it propably wasnt his fault but then he just called them talentless freak thats when people started hating the concord developers most people thought it was awful management before that tweet went out atleast i did
@@KazeShikamaru copy pasted the tweet that i personally saw people didnt have a negative view until they crashed out on twitter
Talentless freaks?? I actually came to drop some positive criticism but get fucked. Clearly based on the game, you're the one with no talent
@ edit just got a video from this smash jt in my recommended hes saying cdpr ceo is lying about sweet baby or smth yeah i get where youre coming from hes a grifter witcher 3 was great im not writing the witcher 4 off yet
@ Oh yea, they shouldn't have responded that way, 100%. Even the people I talked to at Firewalk agree. They also get how they would be frustrated.
Lots of bootlicking here tbh.
I am really loving the investigative stuff from you more , its nice as honestly the main stream is so tainted now, left/right it is a absolute fucking mess esp in Gaming news spaces
Thanks! I appreciate that!
Those sunglasses were cringe.
Otherwise good job!
What happened to concord its like starting a new cinematic universe with a crossover movie instead of individual character movies.... Oh wait....
Didn't SJT jump on the amico bandwagon as a shill?
He sure did!
Great video and info from the Concord devs! Smash and his goons love to point the finger at one single person on a team when shitting on a game. They did it with Indiana Jones and Concord and it's just so silly that he actually thinks that one human being can destroy an entire game like this. If that were the case, he should be able to admit that Grummz is never going to put out Em8er. Anyway keep up the great investigative work!
Thanks and agreed!
Soooo ... Smash is lying, because YOUR anonymous source told you something different than HIS anonymous source?? Yeah, I'm afraid you need a little more to sound convincing.
Especially when you decide to go full insulting on other doing the same thing as you, who - as far as you might know - are just given different information by different people, leading them to a different conclusion. In such cases, it is rarely the more abrasive person who is telling closer to the truth
Well, I think the claims from Smash about "everyone being forced to call someone "Professor" are easily proved incorrect. I have talked to enough people to know it cant be everybody. He may have talked to someone but his assessment of the impact on Concord of "Prof" is way off. Believe it if you want or not. You could make the argument that Smash reporting on an ground floor employee incorrectly could be pretty abrasive.
I remember watching that first trailer and being so annoyed by the characters and their dialogue. Typical forced-quirkiness and obnoxious facial movements on everyone.
I dont think Smash is the one being sued for harrasment. Youre the one calling someone out for not having their facts straight but ironically somehow still didnt manage to get your facts straight. Top kek. Lets all lick the boots of the ground level developers instead.
No one unironically uses "kek" anymore, retard.
And keep licking Smash's boots ;)
@@McdizzleGaming I dont even watch the guy, this is the first time ive heard of him. But hey youre the real straight up facts guy right?
Wait... so you are putting Smash JT on blast, for doing precisely what you yourself are doing here right now? And you are doing this, based purely on the word of an anon source who has every reason to lie to you about this whole situation?
Smash JT's videos on Concord ALSO came from an anon whisteblower from within Firewalk studios. So why should i belive your source over his? Especially now that they have every reason to try and wash their hands of this disaster, and pass the buck?
Make it make sense.
Sure, Smash was wrong namely in his assessment of Profs impact to the downfall of Concord, they didn't create the character designs, wern't close to leadership. That is why one source intially reached out to me. This source is already employed again, were not part of art and didn't really have any skin in the game. I talked to 3 people (a 4th reached out to me the other day, I have actually asked for some internal documentation to mitigate questions about it being fake), all confirmed to have worked there and very similar information re: Prof. Smash could have had a source, but a few things from it didn't align with what my sources said, namley "Everyone was forced to call them Professor", they worked there and never had to do that? Was somebody forced to do that? I don't know, but if its somebody, say somebody, not everybody. I get your skeptisim, but thats the best I can do to address it.
Oh good, we've found a woman to blame for the failure! Thank God, I was sad that it might have been a collaborative issue.
Kim was a big part of it, Ryan was a big part of it, so were other leadership. I would like to think I reported what I was told without adding additional editorial sexism like just about everyone else would.
Bruhhhh seeing all this triple A dev stuff and marketing for a game that only lived for a week is just insane3e
@@clankslybobafett for real, wonder if Jim Ryan saw the writing on the wall and was put lol
I wanted to stop but they kept demanding..."Fatter!", "Uglier!", "more manface!" They had my pet hamster hostage...what was i to do?
Finally a more realistic reason why the game might have failed
There’s big problems in the gaming industry and it’s not woke stuff
Great video
Thanks so much! I appreciate it and agree!
Yeah but woke stuff definitely doesn't help.
It’s woke stuff
It is woke stuff dumbass
not the woke stuf?????? ahhahahaha just looking at these abomination of character design and liberals think not the woke stuff hahahaha , no gamer will play a game with these characters ever especially when most of us are right leaning, im not even american (argentine) i despise what the western left are doing to gaming but , go woke go broke im pretty sure many of concord devs are out of the industry forever
do you guys think the 17 dislikes are from concord devs or from people who dislike what the devs said ? lol
Either way, it's probably from people that made videogames their whole personality and all the nonsense baggage it entails. I could be wrong though. What do I know.
the "go woke go broke" crowd
People that desperately need to touch grass for their own sake
Can u pls do a tutorial on how to get on robinhood free roam I am begging 🙏
15:24 the dude looks familiar. Can't put my finger on it that I mightve put that guy on my "Do Not Recommend" list. 😅
He's a game developer, and has pretty good content, even if he can be wrong here.
@LloydChristmas-vx2wh I've peeked into his RUclips and already not caring about his opinions. Nothing more, nothing less. 🤷
From what i read on the wiki the world-building is not bad it just the rest of the game was a generic hero shooter with hideous character design
Imagine being apart of this team, i would scrub it from my resume!
It's hard to pinpoint what were the major issues and causes for Concord's failure and while I have heard a bunch of reasons, excuses or not, the big one of "management" is always one that I can't wrap my entire head around. Like yes, I understand that Sony and upper management was likely a big factor but there were definitely key issues, way beyond the narrative, that were key factors in the demise of the game. Even the gameplay, although decent, had many problems, especially with pacing and movement. The only thing I would say that was good about the gameplay was the gunplay, everything else was bad or mediocre. Character design was obviously a huge factor that never really got addressed. Comparing to a similar game, at least in terms of scope and situation, is Veilguard. Veilguard was obviously able to capitalize on the DA IP but the combat, though shallow, felt way more fluid than Concord and the character designs, though not great, were way more serviceable than Concord's best design. I think the character interactions and personalities were much worse in Veilguard, but the story was definitely better. Obviously we're comparing apples to oranges here but I think there are some universal game concepts that need to be nailed that Veilguard did (although the other issues with the games prevented it from being a breakout success), mainly the gameplay and overall aesthetic.
Reasonable take!
No way! Floor level devs are not the ones making the final decisions? Are you sure because RUclipsrs like Smash has "sources" that blame Prof Brown for everything. I mean look at her. Its obviously all her fault! Smash hasn't had a job in a corporate setting like this and wouldn't know proper interactions between employees, management and beyond. Imagine blaming devs and not looking into management. Thats Smash for you. Anyways, great video. Keep up the good work.
Prof Brown is leadership level, not "floor" level
I fail to see how this video "confirms" other CCs are wrong, when it sounds more they are right, just exagerated in how they convey the info
8 years of hard work in the gutter lol.
Wait so i may have missed it who was responsible for how horrible the characters looked.
What if, leadership, management, rank and file, Sony, marketing are all to blame? Lol
Honestly, thats probably accurate, however, I know in this case Management were the owns owning alot of critical decisions. They all played a part in it, some more then others.
@ no doubt the management and leadership carries the weight of the failure. Also, like you pointed out in your video, there seem to have been bright spots from some areas of development. But this has got to be the biggest flop in all of gaming history. imo everyone carries some of the blame for that, unfortunate for them or not.
smash would be a deadbeat who only made money from "anti DEI" grifting.
being able to say no to bad ideas is an important factor of competence. We don't know what they did at those other companies, but it's obvious the new combination of those people was a catastrophic failure.
I think everyone can be right in this case though, there were hundreds of people at firewalk, some of them may have not wanted to call prof prof and were forced to, and others had no issue with it.
The animators were definitely good at their jobs but it was sadly all for nothing
Agreed with the saying no thing, i didn’t include it in the video but in talking to source they did state it was so tough to get feedback across , and they spoke to the exceptional soft skills you would have to have to influence management. I think that skill was underrated. It’s not a question of calling prof prof, but more with the reporting of “Everyone was forced to call them “The Professor”, i don’t doubt they changed their name from Lisa to prof, weird sure, but it’s a far cry from making Everyone call them “The Professor” especially if the people that i talked to work there just as long. Could Prof asked people to call them Prof, probably but again much different then what Smash portrayed. Yea, animators and a bunch of people def know what they are doing, it shows by how many have gotten hired so far and quickly by aaa studios.
I kinda miss Concord it was very player friendly and respectful of my time
Yea, I wish I could have tried it, I like the idea of the 5 minute matches.
Well SHIT!! World builder that plays as "GOD". Who could imagine that, lol. Making map assets and map layouts is indeed important, but if the coding department doesnt back that up, you are just a "digital painter". The terms "empty world" and "dead world" do have their origin, guess what it is?! Doing your part is indeed important, but if that part ends up dead in the water, who will care if you invested 1000 hours or more into the making?!
if you have "anonymous sources" it doesn't change jack shit. Because you both can provide "anonymous" sources that none of us can check, what we can check and some actually did was the result of the work being done. Work so bad that the project was killed in less than 2 WEEKS. And yeah, the "woke" stuff was not the "only" thing that killed it but it at least affected the character design (which was just dogshit) a lot and this is not something you can deny because while the game is dead, we can still look up videos of characters.
I love when the game studios are putting stuff like the "pronounse" nonsense and act like they are literally the emperor saying that "you will bend the knee!" and then when it turns out that people didn't actually bend the knee they start crying. Fuck this game, fuck that studio and everything around it. I am really astunned that we came from games like Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, Star Craft 2 to this piece of shit. And I am really, really tired of all those excuses. Either make games that people actually want to play or don't make them at all.
She's literally credited as "The professor" in the end credit. I get that you don't like these guys, but you don't have to lie.
And it's okay not to know, but don't just make sh!t up. She also had a senior leadership role, meaning that she was above MANY people who she probably terrorised, maybe not those who allegedly contacted you (no offence but at worst you're getting bamboozled here, at best, they are who they say they are, and have an incentive shifting the blame to upper management as they're out of a job).
If your main motivation for making these video is being an opposition to a side, might as well stop the pretence and just come out as woke. There is no middle ground when we're talking about an ideology that castrates ch!ldren. You don't like Smash, you don't like Grummz, that's okay, it's not a reason to go and side with the side that came up with "MAP"...
You can not like Smash AND be against gen!tal mut!lation on children at the same time, you know... I can't think of a stupider reason to become woke that "Grummz is making a bad game"...
LOL, she is not credited at "The Professor:" in the end credits why lie? It's under "Prof"
He isn't woke dude. He has constantly just been about facts to a point even people who are friends with Grummz have taken an interest to what he is doing. He is just reporting on what actually happened and debunking actual lies.
@@McdizzleGaming You even call the game out and are actually critical of it. Did this guy watch the video?
@@KazeShikamaru I think they have some brain rot..lol!
@@McdizzleGaming Damn, you untangled my web of lies lol. Case dismissed, it's "Prof" and not "The Professor" which are two completely different things. What a way to lose a debate, it was spectacular! I'm not even mad I lost lol
It's "Prof" in the credits and not "The Professor", therefore everything else, even unrelated is also false... Got it.
Really, dude?... That's how you deal with this argument? Really? So I said "The Professor" and therefore I'm lying because it's "ackchually Prof SMH"? Okay... But what if I double check and find that it's "ackchually Prof Brown SMH" and not just "Prof"? Would that me you lied, too?
... hmmm someone should check...
Yep, it's "Prof Brown" and it neither proves or disprove what the whistle-blowers have said.
You're a bad faith actor. Good luck growing your channel with anything else but haters.
18 minutes defending a dead game 😂
What video you watching? Not this one..lol. Sorry man if these type of nuanced takes and actual investigative journalism isn't your thing!
@McdizzleGaming my brother in Christ, you can't even back up your "anonymous source", grow a pair and stop clout chasing
@@Hely_from_de_mainframe LOL, how do you think anonymous sources work? Sorry man, if I wanted to make things up I would be talking about GTA 6...lol.
@@McdizzleGaming my friend, you are accusing someone who is (in your opinion) telling lies based upon an anonymous source (JT) but you are just the same, you both don't have any sources. Can you step up your game without talking about fried air?
This hase to be one of the worst videos I have ever ever seen.
@@garettparisien2405 Lol really,
this has to be one of the “worst videos” you have seen lmfao
With actual failures like Concord. It good to know what REALLY KILLED the game.
I am sure the cringe WOKE stuff made it worse, but I've notice a trend with games like this, Forspoken being another one, it seem like when they aren't sure of the product they put a sheen of progressive politics to try to 'distract' from the real problem.
There is many other elements that could be a play, ESG money or just more run of mill corparate pandering, but I am not going to be arrogant enough to claim to know the truth of the matter there and the responsible for that should be place on those in leadership roles and not on those they hired in cases like that.
And as long as the culture war bullshit is all people on social media care about the actual problems inherent to the industry will remain untouched
But I guess you can also just scream "WOKE" everytime you see a black character, that's good too
I wish I could like this comment five times.
I mean the cringe woke stuff amounted to what…pronouns in character descriptions and female characters that weren’t completely Bimbofied like they would’ve been in Chinese hands? Clearly the issue was management.
Absolutely management. @@tj_6964
@@tj_6964 i also want to know what the "cringe woke stuff" was
The game was good.
The first person animations months after it died I finally saw were actually good??? I hope the dude gets good work cause they actually were fire
Nahh it was trash
The game itself was bad. There are some good ideas but very poor execution. That being said. The talent was clearly there in many aspects. Just not the game itself.
It's funny how these sources are never named. You'd think there would be at least one dev with the balls to come out with this info publicly.
I agree, it would make things easier, but I also understand how they might not want to deal with the online mob..lol. I don't mind though ha, or I think in some cases, likley breaking NDA's
@McdizzleGaming I just wish one would come out. Not wishing any harm or things of that nature. But when that one artist pointed out his job purposefully uglyfying his work, he came out on social to vent. One comment made a huge wave. Then he was snuffed by the powers that be. Imagine if we just had 3 of those. The credibility will always suffer if they remain anonymous. Reasonable doubt.
@@troyl200 I mean in Journalism as someone who has studied people have a right to have their privacy protected. Sadly you wanting names isn't going to protect someone from getting black ball. I fully get you but at the same time one Journalism class reveals to you why it is important to protect sources and why a lot of sources are private. I'll leave you with this. The Watergate story took off and the major source behind "Deepthroat" was on deep background for that story. He was never quoted at all but it was with his information those two journalists were able to break such a big story. So it isn't impossible to influence change with breaking major stories.
I'm sorry but nobody wants to hear anything from these losers.
Their characters were God awful, the game modes are boring and bland, in the game offered nothing unique or value.
Glad it's dead and so are devs.
I would love to hear from them as I care about facts and the real story and not clickbait trash.
Thanks for watching!
It had nothing to do with DEI. It had everything to do with over promoted management with the wrong priorities.
Thank god a relatively unbiased video on this instead of “concord bad, devs bad”, so sick of these grifters who have to call everything they don’t like woke and just jump on every bandwagon
Thanks! I appreciate that!
Said while jumping on the "grifter" bandwagon... i hope the industry crash
@@ricardordz7538 I wouldn't say it's band wagon jumping, he criticizes 'culture war' nutjobs, calls out harrasment of developers, praises the talent, animations etc.
That and he's not even going in the same direction as it, and actually thinking for himself
@@jamestonjes8263 wow ok i was talking about you LMAO but can't figure that out so... yeah good luck in life bro you gonna need it
@ My dude, you can't even handle a polite response without getting upset, I'm not the one that needs the luck lmao
Thanks for giving us the full story here, dude. And why am I not surprise groms and smash jt or rather a line or exaggerating? The truth groom said this exact same thing with stellar blade artist. When an artist drew eve in a way that people didn't like, he made a big deal about even when the artist apologized. And redrew, it smash still found the way to make it into a problem
Very well put together. I like the more fair and well researched analysis of what went wrong with the game that isn't just trying to farm anti woke points
Thank you!
The truth about concord is that the dev team was a mix of very talented and very untalented people. On the technical side there were many talented people obviously but when you look at the game design side, there was nothing there. Nothing in concord's gameplay is new or different from other games in the genre and what was different like the hero variant system were awful ideas that lead absolutely nowhere and were just different for the sake of being different and not because they were any good. Then you look at the art side and the environment artists were very good but the character artists produced some of the worst designs in modern gaming history.
Management was completely useless. They should've served as filters for all the bad stuff, and had absolutely zero vision for this product as a GAME that people had to actually play. Instead they had a clear vision for this game as a product that they wanted people to buy.
It appears that Kimberly Kreines is indeed a talented writer; however, the issue was that she was dedicating significant resources to crafting an expansive story for an untested shooter, not an RPG.
Gaming news feels refreshing in your videos! Shame this subject has become festered with grifters
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
Source: Me, myself and I
lol you really love to bend and drift around the point even if you are just a dime away. You posted Amanda's response "failure of leadership to listen to the art team" sounds like leadership has an agenda, could it be a WOKE agenda why they kept focusing on Narrative? How many times you mention Narrative along this video and you keep repeating all the focus was on Narrative rather than gaming. Most development was focused on the map viewer they said, then why isnt the map viewer as impressive as the gender-less background the game has if it was all the focus. Things are not adding up. Ignoring the fact she made everyone call her Prof and not Lisa, which Prof is short for Prof. and your source probably omitted the period in Prof. , there's the part she was looking for work. That random youtubers point STILL stands!! Prof. 's posts were hatred on gamers and her product utterly demonstrated she sucked at her job, why would she come back to the thing she sucks at working for the audience she SHOULD cater to but instead she hates. Makes NO SENSE!!!
Apart from your clear jealousy of my two dogs, your story sounds complete BS because Sony would have just "retired" Kim or Ryan or both not dump the game and studio. But have fun clout chasing.
LOL, I don't know what to tell you man. They did end up demoting Ryan before the studio closed, I know that. No clout chasing here but just as Journalists need to be held accountable for misinformation, so do the "new journalists" like Smash. Sorry you don't want to believe this!
What is your source that is BS?
How is it so unthinkable that Sony would just cut their losses? The studio was essentially just deadweight and they'd just be burning more money if they kept them afloat for whatever reason.
@valmiro4164 Because if the team was sooo great but spoiled by Kim and Ryan "relationship" claimed here, Sony would have kept the studio, they didn't implying the whole studio was a feminist echo chamber, lacking professionalism. IMO this video is slander and liable because it's pure fiction with zero proof of their relationship.
@@BobNoobin As I said in the video, it just wasn't those two. They didn't imply any of the things you are mentioning? Is this Smash's alt?
Ah yes me before knowing if I enjoyed a video, doing call of action at start of the video won't make the video enjoyablity worst...
No it will make video ejoyability worst.
Thanks for the feedback! Sometimes I put it at the end..lol, trying different things!
This is why Smash sucks. He is a bully and a monster 😂
I mean, I can say that he's wrong lol
The game was sooooo good it died in two week, i mean those animations were fire!!! you are so right about those very naughty youtuber Who Know nothing right. And those brave dev Who did attack the bad, bad , bad gamer. Clown.
Is that what you took from the video? LOL. STFU. Brainrot.
Hahaha very professionnal i took that you got nothing no proof, Nada. and you make it look like smash destroyed the game. but you can continue attacking people, clown. My source, i made it the f Up.
@@jim0jimmylee810 LOL, the brainrot my dude. LOL, Where did I make it look like Smash destroyed the game? I just called out his lies with real dev feedback. Where is his proof?
@@McdizzleGaming where are yours?
Bran rot is unique.
all i have to say is, sucks to suck. concord looked like something id see everyone at the nursing home playing cuz someones grandchild donated it. ggs lmao