Carrie (1976) - movie reaction - BRITISH FILM STUDENT FIRST TIME WATCHING
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Hello and welcome to another Movie reaction video!
Happy Halloween if you are watching this is in the season!
I love this time of year. There is no better holiday for a storyteller.
With that in mind, I watched a few horror films this month and Carrie was a beauty.
I think in my reaction, I might not seem OVERLY impressed but since rewatching a few times. I really do enjoy this classic.
I can see why it is so loved for sure.
Hope you like the reaction and see you soon!
#DePalma #Carrie #reaction
My favorite lines from the movie -- I'm going. You can't stop me. And I don't want to talk about it anymore.
Tommy and his girlfriend were sincere in trying to help Carrie have a good time.
it took me until the bucket was about to drop to realise that
@@WatchMeMovie yes, you did miss something obvious. she said why she was helping Carrie.
@@luvlgs1 To be fair though, Sue could've been lying. I'm trying to remember if I thought Sue was actually in on it when I first saw this... it's been a while since the first watch. I think I might have doubted her until she saw the rope being tugged by Chris and I realized then that Sue wasn't in on it. I'm pretty sure that I realized that Tommy couldn't have been in on it when he was obviously having a genuinely good time with Carrie while dancing. I thought maybe Sue had set up Carrie by using her boyfriend, until her obvious confusion at the rope and her desperate attempt to get Betty Buckley to listen to her trying to warn her about what she saw under the stage.
@@robnowaczewski5351 I never once doubted Sue's good intentions. Yes, she did join in with the mob mentality at the beginning in the girls' shower. But, after Miss Collins gives her a good shaking, you can see the look on Sue's face change immediately. Sue genuinely feels remorse.
You're supposed to doubt Tommy and Sue's intentions. The book made it clear that they didn't know though. But I think Sue's reaction at 22:21 cements it. Sue was the "Good Girl." She was literally trying to do the right thing. Tommy also didn't know. You can see his anger just before he's hit with the bucket.
I think quite a few have assumed the PE teacher was in on it too by the way she's seen along the many laughing at Carrie, but she was genuinely nice, the sequence is more depicting Carrie's mind, thinking everyone was laughing at her.
A good film but I've never felt scared by it, just sadness from the horrible bullying.
I love the way that sequence is shot. When Carrie is hearing the voices and we go into her kaleidoscopic POV, we only zoom in on people we just saw quite distinctly not laughing - Frieda and George (the couple next to Norma), The Beak (the T-shirt tux guy), Helen (including her stumble backwards, proving it's the same moment), and Miss Collins. And when we cut backstage to Chris and Billy, it's SILENT. Literally only three people laughed - Norma, that random guy when the bucket fell, and Chris giggling as they leave. It's all in her mind, but sealed there by her past trauma with these people and her mother's manipulative predictions.
I'm a big fan of this film, as you may be able to tell by the name.
@@tommyross3298 oh we've all got films we like so much we've spotted little details or analysed things - thanks, i had to watch the full sequence again - i hadn't actually appreciated Helen was initially shocked/sad at the pig's blood - i think of her among the gang which bullied Carrie - peer pressure/clique (her high pitched laugh making her stand out) but i guess other than the two girls Chris and Norma, it was a step too far and cruel for even those who had taken part before. Even if they didn't do a huge gesture of remorse like Sue showed, the after school detention was enough to learn their lesson
@@PD-jk5hd I can see that. Also Edie McClurg is older than Betty Buckley, so maybe she stands out for that reason too. My thought is that Helen is one of the sheep, just trying to make it through, going along with the group and laughing at whoever the group laughs at, while Chris is the head bully, and Norma desperately wants to be her.
To add a Heathers analogy, Heather Chandler = Chris, Heather Duke = Norma, Heather McNamara = Helen.
Yeah, exactly. I never understood this confusion. It seemed clear to me that the only one openly laughing (at first) was Norma. And then you have a few in the back of the gym nervous-laughing. But the spinning insect-vision lens should clue everyone in that most of the people laughing at her is in her mind, especially with the echoing words being thrown in her face, like Betty Buckley's "you can trust me Carrie" after she'd spent the whole film trying to get Carrie out of her shell.
I also agree that this isn't a horror film in the modern accepted sense. It's not about the deaths - this isn't Carrie-as-slasher. It's about the horror of an abused girl who gets piled on until she breaks. It just so happens that when she breaks, she has supernatural powers to back her up. I still find the death of the coach being crushed truly disturbing after everything she'd done to support her.
@@robnowaczewski5351 I have no words to add so I will just 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻
Amy Irving and Priscilla Pointer, (who were both in the last scene) are real life mother and daughter. Brian DePalma cast them on purpose to have that dynamic of truth flowing in the last scene.
Priscilla Pointer even says "Amy" instead of "Sue" when desperately trying to comfort her when Carries hand is grabbing Sue. You can read her lips in that last scène
@@cmo5173 - Exactly right! Priscilla was very concerned about that until she watched the ending in the theatre. She said the audience was screaming so loud, she could’ve called her George and it wouldn’t have mattered. 😆
This truly is one of my favorite films from that classic '70s horror. I did have the privilege of seeing this in the theater when I was a little girl. All the different angles almost like their own personal point of view get you more connected with the characters along with the split screen during the prom scene it's like taking a 360 view of everything that's been built up and carries life up to this point. And as you may or may not notice all the hidden nuances of who's good who's bad. Everyone who's good is in baby blue everyone who was bad is in red. It's very subtle but poignant
Tommy's blond curly hair was so cool.
Only a few were laughing. Carrie just imagined they were all laughing. Her mom had her screwed up. She lost control.
I think you are supposed to wonder about Tommy and his girlfriend during the course of the film, only getting the answer at the climax. King originally intended this to be a short story, having everything take place in the locker room at the beginning, but lost interest in it and threw it away. His wife fished it out of the trash and told him to keep going. So, he lengthened it considerably and it became his first novel. In the novel, Carrie destroys about half of the town on her way home, but DePalma didn't have the budget for it, so he just had her go straight home.
This is such a tragic and sad story because Carrie wanted to live a normal life but she was bullied and abused by her mother at home and her classmates at school. She had no refuge. Well maybe the closet.
Tommy and Ms. Collins the gym teacher didn't deserve to die.
But prom or no prom Carrie"s mother would have tried to kill her anyway. And Carrie would have no alibi to tell the police that she killed her mother in self defense with her telekinesis. And she would be treated as a pariah if she moved to another town.
In the book, after the prom massacre, Carrie is still in her trance state destroying the town on her way home. As she's walking, she has a crazy grin on her face and keeps rubbing her dress, and wiping her hands on it trying to get the blood off. That's one element I wish one of the movies would've added. Another that I wish was included was the people that encountered her as she was going through town, they were all mentally connected to her, could feel her feelings and hear her thoughts. This movie is my favorite of the 3 that were done. I don't enjoy the sequel, but I am always hoping for another take on this amazing story.
You're the only one to mention that sound when Carrie pulls her mother's second hand free. You don't see it, you just hear it being pulled out.
A little FYI: Tommy and Sue were never in on Chris' prank. Sue actually felt awful after what she did (along with the other girls) in the shower scene. When Tommy was struck by the falling bucket, that killed him. When Carrie realized Tommy was dead, that's when she literally lost her mind. He was the only person who had even shown her actual affection--her first dance, her first date, her first kiss, that was something Carrie had never experienced. This was not the first time DePalma used the split screen effect. He first did it in his movie called "Sisters", a psychological drama. Good luck in your film career.
We moved behind a drive-in theater when I was 8 years old and we could SEE movies but not hear them. They showed Carrie a lot and some of the older boys would go down the street to see it. So I saw this at 8 years old. I liked it lol.
I also liked the prom special effects including the split screen, color, and sound used.
Good reaction.
Originally, the entire prom sequence was supposed to be in split-screen. However, Brian De Palma took most of it out during editing, saying it was "too gimmicky". He also said that he should have gone with a more realistic "cinema verite'" feel to add to the chaos..
If I ever met Mr. De Palma, I would ask him to reconsider. Rather than gimmicky, I felt that the split-screen gave the sequence a cold, clinical feel to it, especially when Carrie exacts her revenge. As you see the characters who played a part in this story being dispatched one by one, it feels as if she's checking items off a list...which makes it even more terrifying. As for the "cinema verite," the remakes did go that route but I personally found their versions of the prom scene too chaotic
Trivia note: in 1988 the Royal Shakespeare Company attempted to turn "Carrie" into a stage musical. Arriving on Broadway after a limited run in the UK, the New York cast included Betty Buckley (who played "Miss Collins" in this film), who played the part of Margaret White. The show was savaged by critics and closed after just 5 performances, losing its entire investment of $8 million. The show was reworked and played off-Broadway in 2012 to much better reviews.
“And what’s your favourite period film?”
“Carrie” - Fleabag ;)
Nice relaxing reaction! Thanks! 😊
Carries mother ended up in the same position as the Jesus doll which she forced Carrie to pray to.
This was a lovely reaction and some great recognition of De Palma's signature style, i.e. mixed background/foreground composition, split screen, and beautiful long tracking shots. You say you don't get the sped-up tuxedo scene, but of course De Palma's always played with speed, both fast-forward and slow-mo. The only scene where I find myself disagreeing with you is the prom dance. You say "Please cut to a different shot", but I find the prolonged rotating shot the perfect representation of Carrie's state of mind: she's in a dizzying state of happiness that seems to her to last forever. Right before the horror begins. It's perfect.
Now go back and listen to the beautiful soundtrack that plays as the credits are rolling. Simply beautiful. I actually play the flute part in my recitals it's so beautiful.
Not seen you jump to a single jump scare! Such a chilled reaction 😎
The first time I saw this movie and encountered the " split screen " I lost my shit. DePalma said it was his answer to endless cuts between Carrie and what she was doing to the crowd. Brilliant, considering cinema nowadays is endless cuts on ADHD.
Since you mentioned Spielberg, Amy Irving, who played Sue, married Spielberg.
I bet Amy Irving got millions and millions off Spielberg since they were married during some of his biggest blockbusters. Between Amy and Linda Hamilton they both did very well ❤
I saw this at the theater in 1976. Sat there when it was over and stayed to watch it again. I was almost late for work.
For some reason this freaked me out some when I saw it as a kid. I think because I felt so bad for her. I'd already seen Exorcist at age 8 (we snuck in to theater), Texas Chainsaw Massacre and other crazy 70's horror too. I remember wanting Carrie to F up her bullies.
This is the most effective use of split screen that I've ever seen. This was Stephen King's first novel (and first movie adaptation). But I think the split screen punches you in the face and says, "Yes. You are watching supernatural horror." There is a Sci-Fi element to it, and De Palma was brilliant to use the split screen to embrace that at this moment.
And. When you recreate this in a film: I want to see it.
Actually, this was not DePalma's first time using a split screen. He first did it in his movie "Sisters", where Margot Kidder (of Superman fame) played sisters, one of which was very psychotic.
Brian De Palma was known for that Split screen shot. Check out Dressed to Kill. He does more of the foreground/background shots in that one.
I was thinking "Oh holy...that fricking music!" just as you cut it off and said "That soundtrack..."
Glad to know it's not just me
Two excellent adaptations of SK books are Misery and The Dead Zone.
Please check out Dolores Chairborne. Kathy Bates impressed King so much in Misery that he wrote the book for her so she could star in it. It's a great watch. It's also connected to another King novel, Gerald's Game.
For more split screen stuff you should check out DePalma's Blowout (1981), also with John Travolta and Nancy Allen, Twilight's Last Gleaming (1977), with an all star cast and most definitely The Boston Strangler (1968) with Tony Curtis (Jamie Lee Curtis's dad). Uses more then 2 screens in some areas of the movie. Another is Dressed To Kill (1980), again directed by DePalma, split screen and a one shot through an art museum.
Split-screen is more of a late 60s thing that De Palma employed for this movie. There are lots of famous examples; I think "Woodstock" (1970) and "The Thomas Crown Affair" (1968) are two of the most famous. / Regarding the homage(s) to "Psycho", I'm really happy you caught that. De Palma is always paying homage (or ripping off) Hitchcock (and other directors). I think "Carrie" is his best movie. A lot of his other movies I think are not as great as they're cracked up to be, including "The Untouchables" and "Scarface". "Dressed To Kill" is blatant Hitchcock imitation/homage. "Blow Out" is a not-nearly-as-good take-off on "Blow Up" (that's a great movie. British movie, directed by Italian director Michaelangelo Antonioni. A major film that really ushered in the "modern" style of movies and (in America) helped bring down The Hayes Code).
Another classic that makes great use of split screens (or even multi screens) is ''The Boston Strangler'' (1968), the movie was also way ahead of its time (shocking and brutal scenes), and it is one of the greatest serial killer movies ever made (based on the real killer), with Tony Curtis in an Oscar worthy performance and an incredible cast.
ah the 70's where teachers and parents got to slap their kids. I've been there.
Chris deserved that slap...it was quite satifying
Never seen you this stoned. Must've gotten some of that good good. 🤣
Honestly,i really liked the teacher and the girl who wasn’t a bully
Stumbled across your channel and am really enjoying your analysis of movies as you watch them for the first time. Carrie was great. You should check out the rest of De Palma's back catalogue - Blow Out, Dressed To Kill and Sisters - all using his trademark split screen.
It sounds to me like you are planning to direct a film, based on your praise of the split screen, but IF you are the you should also consider the importance of the performances in this film. Without the Oscar nominated efforts of both Sissy and Piper (the mother) this film would not have worked. We know this is a fact from the failed attempts to remake it. The dynamic between these two actresses is amazing and is not something you see very often in films of today.
De Palma movies have a certain theatricality to them and his frequent split-screen use contributes heavily to that signature style. It's occasionally campy but it's instantly recognizable.
My personal favorite of his is Carlito's Way. It doesn't get nearly enough love.
That is one I have seen and remember thinking it was a hidden gem
I love dressed to kill.
The Museum scene is brilliant
The Vile Eye has an interesting analysis of Carrie’s mother.
The way CArrie is Treated really gets to as a woman
The voice of the kid that fell off the bike was done by the gym teacher.
I went to school in Texas in the 70s. I’ve been slapped a few times by a teacher and once by a principal. If you had a smart mouth, you got slapped.
Is it true that you couldn’t go to the prom if you didn’t have a date in the 70s? I heard about this but I didn’t really believe it
@@alyssaramirez7014 it’s true. But you could also come in a group if you got permission before the prom. If you were troublemakers your group got excluded but if you were there to have fun, they’d make exceptions. Stag was not allowed.
I love De Palma. I recommend checking out Dressed To Kill & Body Double. The Fury is fun as well. I love when he uses split diopter in his films.
love The Fury. an interesting "kind of" sequel to Carrie. similar themes, some of the same actors ...
@@luvlgs1 I agree
Always interesting to watch a book adaptation; Stephen King's writing style is so descriptive so it's hard to translate that to screen sometimes, when so much of it is not dialogue-driven. I read the book years before I watched this movie and the book is better- it's written in the format of interviews with people who survived or witnessed the events. It's a pretty short novel, not sure if you're a reader or have time for that sort of thing. Nice reaction, cheers from Canada :).
i love the book but the movie is amazing and imo better. even king himself likes the movie better than the book.
@@kyle3554 You have a source for that? AFAIK Stephen King has *never* said he prefers an adaptation over his own work. The closest he's come is admitting the end of The Mist is better than his own. There are definitely adaptations he freely loves and praises, though... Carrie being one of them.
The ending at Carrie's grave was actually filmed in reverse, it was also a reference (if I'm right) to the 1972 John Boorman classic ''Deliverance''. Talkin' 'bout slasher movies, you should watch Brian De Palma's (pre-slasher) ''Sisters'' (1973), which also includes excellent use of split-screens. Other classic early or pre-slasher movies are ''Black Christmas'' (1974) & ''Alice Sweet Alice'' (1976).
Thanks a lot for these Peter and the comment as usual!
I don't know why the "fast-forwarding bit" confuses so many reactors. It's just a comic touch on the part of DePalma, to show that the boys' argument about tuxedos goes on pointlessly for a long time and we're getting to zip to the end of it. The silly music during the scene is just a part of the brief comic interlude. Needless to say, rarely are any of the bits in a DePalma film "not quite up to scratch."
I could understand if it was more than one line of dialogue, and I could understand the comic relief in the middle if we were with our protagonist during it or if it was a different genre. I'll reserve my judgement of Depalmas whole filmography until I have seen the Untouchables
I think Tarantino's biggest tribute to De Palma was the scene in Kill Bill 1 when Elle visits the hospital in the nurse's uniform with the split screen. I like De Palma's movies from the 70s and early 80s because they had that downtown exploitation theater vibe. My biggest criticism of his later films are their unoriginality. He recreates scenes from filmmakers like Eisenstein and Hitchcock but pretty direct recreation, not the mixed influences like Tarantino's cut-up pop collages. His films like The Untouchables and Mission Impossible are like cover songs.
Piper Laurie should have been nominated. they never give recognition to thrillers/horror movies (i think "Silence of the Lambs" was the first to be recognized as a great movie w/ great acting...
all the best horror movies are basically human dramas
Tommy looks and even sounds much like Robert Redford.
I still highly recommend Come and See from 1985. A war movie that is filmed to show the rawness of war. It is disturbing but then war is just that. I would love to hear your interpretation of this beautifully filmed piece of work.
It is on the list so will be getting round to it, cheers!
Would you give To Kill A Mockingbird a look. It's one of my favorite movies
I will put it to the Patreon Polls at some point!
yes….I love that movie!!! It’s way past my time but till this day many American schools show “To Kill A Mockingbird” in English class. I think it’s beautifully filmed. The actors were phenomenal
You should do a reaction to "An American Werewolf In London" (1981). Right up your alley!
Hey I just did! Already up on Patreon and coming to RUclips this week, cheers!
@@WatchMeMovie COOL!
Not just the music is a connection to _Psycho._ Carrie's school is _Bates_ High School. 16:29
It started with blood and ended with blood.
For something really different, you should watch the 1971 film "The Andromeda Strain." It is a sort of forgotten film that is absolutely Excellent! I promise you. Your comments on that film would be great!
Check out Mommy dearest (1981), it's a classic also Cape Fear (1991) :D
I love Ryan's reactions and analyses, but would I be wrong to assume that he smokes massive amounts of weed?
Cool reaction thanks
Definitely watch Brazil and Being John Malkovich
You have a very soothing voice 😳👍 Nice Reaction, thanks! 🙂
🙋♂️Carrie came before Kill Bill...not after.
I saw Night of the Living Dead as a kid and it scared me so bad I avoid horror films to this day. Carrie is a good movie, not scary at all, just disturbing.
Night of the living dead was one of my favourites as a kid for sure
did you watch the whole movie? Text can sound like a smart ass but I’m not being one. I’m not sure how reactors do this if they get to watch the whole movie or just what you sow. But there was a whole scene with the teacher talking to Sue and Tommy and questioning why they were doing it. Sue was emphasizing she wanted to make it up to Carrie and Tommy was not really wanting to but finally did it for Sue. Then he ended up caring about Carrie when they were at the prom. Chris and Billy and the girl with the red cap and her boyfriend, Plus a couple of their followers were the only bad ones really doing it
By the way, I really like your channel and enjoy watching your reactions. Thank you
Enjoyed this. Particularly reading your face.
So you're up for a different type violence... was already thinking to suggest writer/director Martin McDonaugh to you. I think he's fantastic. Dark comedy's my thing.
Thank you, In Bruges is probably one of my favourite films ever, as well as three billboards and seven psycopaths was really good too. I have even seen six shooter so I would have to agree that I think he is fantastic and I see he has something in the works TBA
@@WatchMeMovie cool af that you know and like him. And thx for the heads up on the new one.
The Raid (2011) next?? Very violent
I have seen it a few times though it is a beauty , number 2 as well
I liked your style in your reaction to the movie unlike others who OVER react on every scene through out the movie.
I think Sissy Spacek is a great actress, But I always found Carrie awkward to watch.
Splitting the screen in that way was used quite a bit in the 70's. Music videos being a prime candidate.
Hey Spike!. yeah it was a bit awkward but I think it was the combination of split screen and the carnage, plus the colour scheme that made me want to rip it off. I probably will this year at some point
@@WatchMeMovie Absolutely there is a style of Camera work there that hasn't been fully appreciated and hasn't really been utilised in more modern productions. I'm with you on the creative side and the lack of interest in exploring that technique further. You go for it!
You've got me thinking where else I've noticed it. Grand prix from John Frankenheimer in 66 comes to mind. Possibly some of the best Camera work ever in cinema coupled with the worst script (just fast forward to race sequences) Pink floyd used it in Live at Pompeii in 72, Thomas Crown affair I think was 68. Snatch as well from guy richie
its a beautifull shot great movie with a bit of cheap ass 70s teen flick scenes
Some of those details you mentioned that bothered you... may be why I never just loved Brian de Palma films. Kinda overkill with some things.
Fun Fact: Mrs. White in Carrie and Ms. Carmody in The Mist are sisters in the Stephen King universe.
More Fun Fact: That's BS, I just made that up since they're both religious wackos...
Even if it were true it wouldn't be facts, but trivia.
@@Saranda4787 still facts, trivial facts, but facts nonetheless. Not that it matters anyway since it's neither.
It sas quite interesting until it got silly.
You saying that proms shouldn't be around because the pressure of pairing up isn't needed is like a Yank saying to do away with the monarchy because the pressure of the class system isn't needed. Ok, not quite, but both are institutions are harder to understand when on the opposite side of the pond.
When did he say that “proms shouldn’t be around”?
Yeah I never said they shouldnt be allowed, just that it is a weird bit of pressure to put on young adults when it is so focused (I assume) on getting a date. Probably more now than then. To each their own, I dont think it is a UK vs US thing. As , like I said we have them over here nowadays, I just personally think it is pressure and I don't personally like it. Same way I don't personally like the monarchy or think it should still exist.
What bothers me about all reactors is that you all react to the same films. Do something different. "The World According to Garp", "Sex, Lies and Video Tape." "Drugstore Cowboy". "Less Than Zero". "The Right Stuff". "Driving Miss Daisy" "Cocoon", "Fatal Attraction"
unfortunately carrie doesn't really do it for me, it's so uneven. a shame really since there's some great shots and acting in parts, and the story should lend itself to great cinema
I get what you're saying for sure
I never really cared for this movie - 'always thought it was way overrated, the characters, two-dimensional, the "horror", bland and predictable.
For me, the only surprises were a very young John Travolta, and a cast member from ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST; Sydney Lassick.
Thumbs up for your effort, but this flick blows.
As much as this movie is a classic, I really do believe that the remake with Chloë Grace Moretz was far superior.
Not on any level. It was inferior in every way acting, casting, cinematography and special effects. It's thoroughly forgettable and time will prove this. It simply cannot justify its existence.
@@blkluv100 I couldn't disagree with you more.
@@fRo0tLo0p It was glossy tripe. Carrie using her telekinesis at the prom like Magneto from the X-men comics was laughable and embarrassing. The CGI blood pouring out of the bucket like Niagara Falls defies the laws of physics. It was ridiculous. Chloe Moretz was miscast and never inhabited the essence of Carrie. The acting was all surface and not internal. Anyone who claims that mess is better than the original cannot recognize good acting, good directing or good storytelling. It was a CGI spectacle and nothing more.
@@blkluv100 as for not being able to recognize Good acting, directing, etc, I've worked professionally as an actor, writer, director since I was 8 years old. I will keep my own counsel on what is good filmmaking. Thanks.
@@fRo0tLo0p There are professional writers, directors and actors who have been working for years but still produce crap. Those credentials mean nothing if you can't back them up. I'm not directing that at you, just saying there are teachers, cops, managers, judges people of all professions who are still lousy at their jobs. Longevity is not synonymous with competance.