Yes please give a full length video on this subject. I'm so tired of all the comments, blogs, reddit, etc of this non sense of vocal range=voice types. Some of this info is passed off by vocal coaches who I wouldn't trust with my voice, and curious how some of them even got a degree in this subject. Thank you for this video!
This is so encouraging! It is not my voice type holding me back but rather my immense lack of training and skill. 🤣😅 Thank you again for a quality video Kaji!
Yea! Technique and proper voice development will help bring your true voice out along with range. Don’t give up! I am training my voice with an opera singer who believes in big chest voice along with a powerful head voice. It’s really eye-opening how much misinformation there is on vocals since the turn of the century. I am a soprano with a wide range and often get mistaken for a mezzo or alto singer.
OMGGGGGG!!! @@ElyWill Thank you so much this is VERY encouraging. Where can one go about finding good voice teachers? I am planning for when I have the additional income to pursue hobbies. Thank you again for this comment :D
This video could easily be renamed to "singers with damn extreme ranges on both ends" 😂 Jokes aside they were all very impressive!!! Thank you for yet another wonderful video! ❤
@dominicwilemanyes, it’s an epidemic. Many of them also get extremely defensive and angry when they’re presented with thought provoking statements of factual information about the voice
Extremely necessary video! People still insist on wanting to classify a voice ONLY with vocal range! Since there are other factors that define MUCH more than vocal range. I say this because I was already a victim of this error when they tried to classify me as a Soprano just by my vocal range. And of course, I hated it. Because it is NOT correct. This is why classifying a voice is difficult and is becoming obsolete as people stop studying it. And getting carried away with classifying a voice by the range it reaches! Just one factor does not mean that he or she has a certain type of voice. And the worst thing is that people focus on vocal range and voice classification.
The first thing you look at is the voice’s density! Which some people on RUclips ignore for whatever reason. Calling voices like Michel’le whose larynx literally didn’t develop in puberty a mezzo… simply because she doesn’t sing very high is insane.
@@KajiVocalsThat's why I started to hate seeing people classifying such voices just by their vocal range, like if you do an F5 or a note in the 6th octave they already want to call you a Soprano...🙄... or if you make notes in the 3rd or 2nd octave, you call that singer a Contralto... It's a lot of guesswork and little study. As if a high or low note 100% defined someone's vocal range...it's a mistake that some people still make, unfortunately.
Although not on this video but Sarah Vaughan's tonal quality/timber is simply captivating. There is so much color to her voice. Just love listening to her singing voice. Her speaking voice from what I've heard on interviews sounds so much different sometimes like a young girl
Kaji thanks for the video now can show to other people that vocal range does not define your voice type . I really loved the video you need to make at least 3 video that talk about vocal range.
This video was hugely needed after BMA’s recent video on Whitney’s voice. I have loads to learn and even I’m able to identify Whitney as a textbook soprano. Then again, BMA also thinks that typical mezzos are contraltos, so…
@@KajiVocals I meant scratch my head as in it made me question BMA's credibility. Also, BMA I am assuming is Black Music Archive. This was years ago so please do forgive me if there is any confusion. BMA used to have a series called "What the Fach?" where he'd explain the vocal fach system and would then give like modern day examples of singers. Toni Scruggs was the one I am pretty sure he considered either a contralto or falcon soprano? Sorry for any confusion. Also I specifically remember it being Toni Scruggs bc I am pretty sure she commented on that video sharing how honored she was to be compared to some great examples. Actually, after typing this out I am pretty sure it was like falcon soprano bc Aretha Franklin was brought into the convo.
@@KajiVocals, I remember the “ _What the Fach_ ” series. It _seemed_ to be very informative in its use of “ _Classical_ ”/“ _Opera_ ” singers’ voices in demonstration of what a particular voice-type (or, vocal “ _fach_ ” classification, according to the series’ view) would actually _sound_ like, and then, use examples of that same “ _fach_ ” with -- and, _in comparison to_ -- other singers/vocalists in non-“ _Classical_ ” music genres like “ _Gospel,_ ” “ _R&B_ ”/“ _Soul,_ ” “ _Pop,_ ” “ _Jazz,_ ” etc. Not only having shown examples of different singers’ voices and their vocal types, but the little technical details of _how_ each person would sing, what they would do to _produce_ the notes in a song. _THIS,_ in spite of a difference of personal opinion as to which singers have, or _had,_ what Vocal Range or “ _fach._ ”
Where the tessitura sounds best in most cases but not always. Some singers do sing in a particular placement or opt for unique techniques to produce a particular quality. MC is a true Alto or or if you prefer to say (mezzo) in nature but she records and performs through whisper in 4th then throw in belts and whistle notes octave 6th octave before recent years.
This helps me because am always worried about my range especially having a very rich tone and my voice goes high as a counter tenor and all the time goes back to regular tenor and my natural alto voice this video inspires me to sing how I really feel it at its full potential
I love his culture videos and the videos he makes on the history and development of certain singers but he’s rly hit or miss w/voice pedagogy. He was correct in calling Karen Clark Sheard and Natalie Cole Lyric Sopranos but then calls Chaka Khan and Aretha Franklin mezzos smh. @@Amazingvocalsandmedia
This _IS_ an interesting Video, here. The words/sentence shown at the beginning of it are true. Higher-pitched (natural) voices _are_ capable of hitting -- and, actually _SINGING_ -- notes in the Lower Register/Range _IF_ such singers are well-trained and have the ability to master hitting them. This same principle also applies to naturally Lower-Register voices hitting and singing high notes as well, including something as commonly heard as men with Baritone and lower-/deeper-pitched voices singing in “ _Falsetto_ ” which is their having sung _up over, above and outside of_ their natural Vocal Range (like in _Sylvester’s_ case). Women who sing lower-pitched notes outside of _their_ natural Vocal Range are shown as well.
A useful and very informative video! Ready for the upcoming videos on this topic 😊 Thanks for trying to clarify this vocal debate. Also regarding Italian singers like Mina, Giorgia and Annalisa, some "vocal coaches/experts" end up misclassifying them as mezzosoprani 😅 I saw you commented to some of them under their vocal range videos (probably not under the Giorgia one).
@KajiVocals Are you still collecting videos of contraltos and mezzos who can hit soprano high notes (belts)? That topic is related to the vocal debate upon voice types 🙂
@@KajiVocals I’m a singer and want to get training how to know if I’m a tenor or baritone? I sing high and not comfortable singing in the tenor range (I’m mostly comfortable in the alto range) but I know that doesn’t dictate my voice type
Yhup this. Tessitura and comfortable range together. I have a decent range for a baritone, but get me to sing a Bach tenor passage and ill be crying. Counternor is much easier to sing than that.
I’ve always been confused about my voice type thinking I’m a tenor bc I naturally have a bright tone and I have a high head voice extension for a male. But then I would get to thinking imma baritone bc my chest voice is pretty limited for a tenor. My highest supported note is about G/G#4 and that takes a huge amount of effort. It almost feels as if my voice “stops” there but I have had little breaks in my voice where I’ve barely touched higher notes. After seeing this video, I still think I may be a tenor but I just have underdeveloped technique. I just wanna hit Bb4+ 😩😭
I'm the opposite. My chest voice goes up to an E5 and an F5 (on a good day), and everyone keeps telling me that my voice is naturally low. I don't have much head voice. I'm left wondering if I'm a baritone or a tenor
@@issakelly8071 Hmmm maybe depends on your lower register as well, how are ur lows? I can comfortably get down to F#2/F2 but everything below that is croaky asf/vocal fry 😭 is this baritone range? Lol
@@onedollarbleach6891 My lower register is laughable. I'm barely audible past E3. I have to use vocal fry. My voice comes alive in my mid to upper register
Outside of opera or classical singing, types are not applied to voices, because many singers have a very marked style which changes their voice color, vocal range and resonance. For example, someone who sings Nasal and with a high larynx will have a super strident and bright voice with ease in the high, but that does not mean that is a soprano.
In good training voice types certainly are applied. Voice types are to do with one’s voice anatomy. This is what voice types this video is referencing.
Caleb Hyles I think is a good example of this fact. Squeaky Alvin and the chipmunks chicken Tendie voice and has squeaked out a weak C2 before. Also wanted to hear your thoughts on Chris Cornell's voice type and his voice in general.
I guess the tonal color of sopranos does not change from low to high? But contraltos and mezzos change when they hit upper notes? Am I right or my analysis is wrong?
I wonder why that guy from the comments section in the Freddie Mercury video is always trying to get after you all the time complaining about you getting people's fachs wrong.
Now i start questioning myself am i a baritone or a tenor because all this time i think i was a baritone just because my highest note that i can belt out in my full chest was G#4 and i can go low to F2 😓i am surely not a bass because my tonality was quite bright and not heavy as basses ...but i think a tennor can easily hit A4 and above easily right?while me ,i can hit A4 if i really went to it with full effort 😓help me @Kaji to identified my vocal classified 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@KajiVocals wow most people are very sure she is a contralto but she sound womanly to me. I guess she is a low mezzo or somewhat closer to contralto with age
Yes please give a full length video on this subject. I'm so tired of all the comments, blogs, reddit, etc of this non sense of vocal range=voice types. Some of this info is passed off by vocal coaches who I wouldn't trust with my voice, and curious how some of them even got a degree in this subject. Thank you for this video!
I’d never trust a vocal coach with my voice. Only a voice teacher.
This is so encouraging!
It is not my voice type holding me back but rather my immense lack of training and skill. 🤣😅
Thank you again for a quality video Kaji!
Yea! Technique and proper voice development will help bring your true voice out along with range. Don’t give up! I am training my voice with an opera singer who believes in big chest voice along with a powerful head voice. It’s really eye-opening how much misinformation there is on vocals since the turn of the century. I am a soprano with a wide range and often get mistaken for a mezzo or alto singer.
OMGGGGGG!!! @@ElyWill Thank you so much this is VERY encouraging. Where can one go about finding good voice teachers? I am planning for when I have the additional income to pursue hobbies. Thank you again for this comment :D
Whitney in the beginning 💕
U could probably add Callie Day
Or one of those gospel tenors with high af hv
This video could easily be renamed to "singers with damn extreme ranges on both ends" 😂
Jokes aside they were all very impressive!!! Thank you for yet another wonderful video! ❤
This is one of the most factual-based vocal videos on RUclips ❤❤❤
You need to do more of those video's to spread the right info it will be so helpful ❤❤
what a grogeous video...educative too, especially with the mess that a revered page pushes out and followers believe verbatim...
@dominicwilemanyes, it’s an epidemic. Many of them also get extremely defensive and angry when they’re presented with thought provoking statements of factual information about the voice
@dominicwileman how tf, sometimes mixed voice happens on M1 though
@dominicwileman a few people got mad at me for not demonizing chest voice and stitching their (public) videos 😭
@@Ahtistahinm1 is modal/chest
Although there is Mx2 which you could be referring to by “sometimes mix happens in M1”
@@imNotZack_ I know chest/belt is m1 but thanks for another information!
Glad to see Richard n Dorothy here , great examples
Extremely necessary video!
People still insist on wanting to classify a voice ONLY with vocal range!
Since there are other factors that define MUCH more than vocal range.
I say this because I was already a victim of this error when they tried to classify me as a Soprano just by my vocal range.
And of course, I hated it. Because it is NOT correct.
This is why classifying a voice is difficult and is becoming obsolete as people stop studying it.
And getting carried away with classifying a voice by the range it reaches! Just one factor does not mean that he or she has a certain type of voice.
And the worst thing is that people focus on vocal range and voice classification.
The first thing you look at is the voice’s density! Which some people on RUclips ignore for whatever reason. Calling voices like Michel’le whose larynx literally didn’t develop in puberty a mezzo… simply because she doesn’t sing very high is insane.
@@KajiVocalsThat's why I started to hate seeing people classifying such voices just by their vocal range, like if you do an F5 or a note in the 6th octave they already want to call you a Soprano...🙄...
or if you make notes in the 3rd or 2nd octave, you call that singer a Contralto... It's a lot of guesswork and little study.
As if a high or low note 100% defined someone's vocal range...it's a mistake that some people still make, unfortunately.
Thank you for choosing one my favs by Sylvester!!! Great video!
Although not on this video but Sarah Vaughan's tonal quality/timber is simply captivating. There is so much color to her voice. Just love listening to her singing voice. Her speaking voice from what I've heard on interviews sounds so much different sometimes like a young girl
Oh she definitely applies. She was certainly a soprano with a very strong lower register. Later she turned into a mezzo. With great high notes.
@dominicwileman Yes but she still was clearly mezzo at all times.
Bobby's G is stunning
He has a C and D too.
we need more of these helpful videos!♥️
Kaji thanks for the video now can show to other people that vocal range does not define your voice type . I really loved the video you need to make at least 3 video that talk about vocal range.
Much needed video.
This video was hugely needed after BMA’s recent video on Whitney’s voice. I have loads to learn and even I’m able to identify Whitney as a textbook soprano. Then again, BMA also thinks that typical mezzos are contraltos, so…
I really do love BMA but the fact Kaji said a singer was a soprano when BMA said they were a contralto really made me scratch my head.
@@hanon6437 Which singer?
@@KajiVocals I meant scratch my head as in it made me question BMA's credibility. Also, BMA I am assuming is Black Music Archive. This was years ago so please do forgive me if there is any confusion. BMA used to have a series called "What the Fach?" where he'd explain the vocal fach system and would then give like modern day examples of singers. Toni Scruggs was the one I am pretty sure he considered either a contralto or falcon soprano? Sorry for any confusion. Also I specifically remember it being Toni Scruggs bc I am pretty sure she commented on that video sharing how honored she was to be compared to some great examples. Actually, after typing this out I am pretty sure it was like falcon soprano bc Aretha Franklin was brought into the convo.
@@hanon6437He called her a falcon, yes.
You might be speaking of Phoebe Snow who was a classically trained soprano who BMA called a contralto.
@@KajiVocals, I remember the “ _What the Fach_ ” series. It _seemed_ to be very informative in its use of “ _Classical_ ”/“ _Opera_ ” singers’ voices in demonstration of what a particular voice-type (or, vocal “ _fach_ ” classification, according to the series’ view) would actually _sound_ like, and then, use examples of that same “ _fach_ ” with -- and, _in comparison to_ -- other singers/vocalists in non-“ _Classical_ ” music genres like “ _Gospel,_ ” “ _R&B_ ”/“ _Soul,_ ” “ _Pop,_ ” “ _Jazz,_ ” etc. Not only having shown examples of different singers’ voices and their vocal types, but the little technical details of _how_ each person would sing, what they would do to _produce_ the notes in a song. _THIS,_ in spite of a difference of personal opinion as to which singers have, or _had,_ what Vocal Range or “ _fach._ ”
Where the tessitura sounds best in most cases but not always. Some singers do sing in a particular placement or opt for unique techniques to produce a particular quality. MC is a true Alto or or if you prefer to say (mezzo) in nature but she records and performs through whisper in 4th then throw in belts and whistle notes octave 6th octave before recent years.
Awesome Video, I agree range doesn't equal voice type
This helps me because am always worried about my range especially having a very rich tone and my voice goes high as a counter tenor and all the time goes back to regular tenor and my natural alto voice this video inspires me to sing how I really feel it at its full potential
Woah Dorothy hunt sounds like a man in her lower register, can you do mezzos who sound like sopranos?
Black Music Archive who🤭🤣
he's good though.. don't say like that..i love him alsp kaji..both of them are great
@@richielee9838 BMA makes pretty decent history / culture videos but when it comes to voice science / pedagogy he is dreadful
@@Amazingvocalsandmedia yes rose! 🤗🤗❤️
@@Amazingvocalsandmediafinally someone said it.
I love his culture videos and the videos he makes on the history and development of certain singers but he’s rly hit or miss w/voice pedagogy. He was correct in calling Karen Clark Sheard and Natalie Cole Lyric Sopranos but then calls Chaka Khan and Aretha Franklin mezzos smh. @@Amazingvocalsandmedia
This _IS_ an interesting Video, here. The words/sentence shown at the beginning of it are true. Higher-pitched (natural) voices _are_ capable of hitting -- and, actually _SINGING_ -- notes in the Lower Register/Range _IF_ such singers are well-trained and have the ability to master hitting them. This same principle also applies to naturally Lower-Register voices hitting and singing high notes as well, including something as commonly heard as men with Baritone and lower-/deeper-pitched voices singing in “ _Falsetto_ ” which is their having sung _up over, above and outside of_ their natural Vocal Range (like in _Sylvester’s_ case). Women who sing lower-pitched notes outside of _their_ natural Vocal Range are shown as well.
All these vocal fach were not classifications made from vocal range. They were classifications made by assessing comfort and projection.
These are not voice fächer. And fächer system is not really based off that either.
Thanks for the Michael Spyres!
A useful and very informative video! Ready for the upcoming videos on this topic 😊 Thanks for trying to clarify this vocal debate.
Also regarding Italian singers like Mina, Giorgia and Annalisa, some "vocal coaches/experts" end up misclassifying them as mezzosoprani 😅 I saw you commented to some of them under their vocal range videos (probably not under the Giorgia one).
@KajiVocals Are you still collecting videos of contraltos and mezzos who can hit soprano high notes (belts)? That topic is related to the vocal debate upon voice types 🙂
Thank you for this Sylvester and I have similar tones he's one of my musical influences 😊
Would love to see you expand on why you think Sylvester and Mr Clean (especially) are baritones 😮
I’ll send you clips on Insta.
i might need these clips too @@KajiVocals
bc Mr. Clean (especially) caught me by surprise, you considered him a baritone.
sylvester with that B flat 5 is brutally incredible. is mr clean in M1?
I never would have thought Sylvester was a baritone that Ab2 seemed so easy for him his range was just phenomenal
He had an easy low E. He only belted on several songs.
@ryansinging what’s his vocal fach then?
Listen to his song Friendship for his real voice… and All I Need. Clearly a baritone.
@@KajiVocals I’m a singer and want to get training how to know if I’m a tenor or baritone? I sing high and not comfortable singing in the tenor range (I’m mostly comfortable in the alto range) but I know that doesn’t dictate my voice type
@@thatboycjsings I’ll respond under another comment.
Great video!
😊 Happy Holidays!!
Same to you!
Yhup this. Tessitura and comfortable range together.
I have a decent range for a baritone, but get me to sing a Bach tenor passage and ill be crying.
Counternor is much easier to sing than that.
Kaji can i ask you? At 0:47 what is the song name?
I’ve always been confused about my voice type thinking I’m a tenor bc I naturally have a bright tone and I have a high head voice extension for a male. But then I would get to thinking imma baritone bc my chest voice is pretty limited for a tenor. My highest supported note is about G/G#4 and that takes a huge amount of effort. It almost feels as if my voice “stops” there but I have had little breaks in my voice where I’ve barely touched higher notes. After seeing this video, I still think I may be a tenor but I just have underdeveloped technique. I just wanna hit Bb4+ 😩😭
MAN WE GOT SAME SITUATION 😔😔 I DON'T KNOW WHAT AM I
I'm the opposite. My chest voice goes up to an E5 and an F5 (on a good day), and everyone keeps telling me that my voice is naturally low. I don't have much head voice. I'm left wondering if I'm a baritone or a tenor
@@issakelly8071 Hmmm maybe depends on your lower register as well, how are ur lows? I can comfortably get down to F#2/F2 but everything below that is croaky asf/vocal fry 😭 is this baritone range? Lol
@@richielee9838Literally! I saw ur other comment and it’s the exact same situation as me….twins 😭
@@onedollarbleach6891 My lower register is laughable. I'm barely audible past E3. I have to use vocal fry. My voice comes alive in my mid to upper register
@Kaji or anyone else, which song is sung at 2:35 by Rev. Richard ''Mr. Clean" White
“Something about Gods Grace” CH MASON MEMORIAL CHOIR 1975
Outside of opera or classical singing, types are not applied to voices, because many singers have a very marked style which changes their voice color, vocal range and resonance. For example, someone who sings Nasal and with a high larynx will have a super strident and bright voice with ease in the high, but that does not mean that is a soprano.
In good training voice types certainly are applied. Voice types are to do with one’s voice anatomy. This is what voice types this video is referencing.
Caleb Hyles I think is a good example of this fact. Squeaky Alvin and the chipmunks chicken Tendie voice and has squeaked out a weak C2 before. Also wanted to hear your thoughts on Chris Cornell's voice type and his voice in general.
Now I have remembered and get it now What Kaji's said to me before haha🤭😆
I guess the tonal color of sopranos does not change from low to high? But contraltos and mezzos change when they hit upper notes? Am I right or my analysis is wrong?
Well, lower voices definitely will change more, but no. Soprano tone can change across range too.
Great job
I wonder why that guy from the comments section in the Freddie Mercury video is always trying to get after you all the time complaining about you getting people's fachs wrong.
0:29 Wait that's a baritone???? 🤯🤯🤯
Yes, a baritone singing nearly fully in M2. Take a look at the song 'Friendship' where he uses M1 or 'Thinking Right' or 'All I Need'.
@@KajiVocals Oh okay.
Now i start questioning myself am i a baritone or a tenor because all this time i think i was a baritone just because my highest note that i can belt out in my full chest was G#4 and i can go low to F2 😓i am surely not a bass because my tonality was quite bright and not heavy as basses ...but i think a tennor can easily hit A4 and above easily right?while me ,i can hit A4 if i really went to it with full effort 😓help me @Kaji to identified my vocal classified 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I'm a tenor for sure but full chest A4 is hard for me too, belting is just very hard imo
I can tell that in 90% chance you're some kind of a tenor
Cause those notes are easily one of the most typical undeveloped tenor ranges I've ever seen
You can be a tenor and struggle at G#4 and go low as F2
I’m a tenor who struggles to go above Bb3/B3 so 😑
@@hayedehstan is this a joke?
I would never have thought any voice type struggles below middle C.
DO MORE OF THESE!!! I also cant access discord smh. Ill have to create a new account. I will eventually.
Is Geoff Castellucci a Tenor with extensive lower range? Or is he a Baritone? His C4-G#4 didn’t scream Bass to me
Low baritone. Bass-baritone.
@@KajiVocals Thanks
I agree
What is M1 and M2 and what's the difference between them?
What do you think of Lisa Gerrard's voice type?
Mezzo-soprano.
@@KajiVocals wow most people are very sure she is a contralto but she sound womanly to me. I guess she is a low mezzo or somewhat closer to contralto with age
@@jinji4609 Not at all. People just don’t know her voice. Listen to her material. This is not even a heavy voice.
What are the passagi for each voice types?
What does define type?
What was the song whitney singing at the beinging ?
Song is "I Don't want you Anymore OR Anymore" it is the live performance from Welcome Home Heroes special