remember that time flows differently from the TVA and all the other timelines. and he is refering to season 2 starting exactly where it left off at the end of the last S1 episode@@VVashabi
@@VVashabi they’ve established time within the TVA isn’t the same as real time, Brad could’ve spend years living in that timeline & that could be seconds in TVA time, so unless they explicitly lay it out, can’t really predict actual time jumps
This channel cannot be seen as objective reviewers. They are too concerned with backlash from the nut job nerd subscribers.. “I hear the negative comments, but…. uh. Well, I’m gonna give this a 10 outta 10! Yes it wasn’t perfect, but blahbla” (not this particular episode, but too often, especially ahsoka) They are definitely not getting paid by Disney. Just RUclips. I understand the motivation. 3mm nitwits shouting would have me saying dumb things too.
I think the main conflict this season will be the question of whether or not things are predestined. Is Timely destined to become Kang/He Who Remains or is he his own person who can make his own future? Loki is a villain in every timeline but if he can change, why does Timely have to be destined to become He Who Remains, why are the Kang variants destined to start the multiversal war? And if there is a multiversal war, does it have to play out the same way it did before? Maybe this time, there will be a better solution that allows different timelines/universes to co-exist peacefully.
I think after we saw all the Kangs in Antman 3, its already diffrent than what He who remains told us. They all seem to be working together and the council of Kang is in place, there doesnt seem to be any conflict between them.
@FloundBlacky I read a comic summary. That Council of Kang is a tactic for the main Kangs to kill off all the weaker Kangs. That makes sense, because we know another Multiversal War is coming, and based on He Who Remains, the war started because of the Kang variants. So it wouldn't make sense that all Kangs are suddenly working together.
@@FloundFahrdienstit's likely the heroes of the universes have become much more of an issue this time around. If they can destroy all Kangs at once who knows what may happen?
You don't understand Sylvie and Renslayer motivations, they are not crazy. Sylvie doesn't want revenge on He Who Remains variant, she wants to kill him so he won't become Kang and destroy her timeline. She clearly says in this episode that he will do terrible things and thats why she wants to kill him. Renslayer believes that what TVA does is necessary, so she follow He Who Remains orders to help his variant become who he should become and take over TVA.
We haven't seen Kang in this series yet. He who remains is the singular entity that defeated an unlimited number of Kangs. He is an antihero because he prunes timelines which is the most merciful way to keep Kang from brutally enslaving and murdering infinite people.
This is one of those episodes that I think you guys didn't pay attention to that much. Loki does warn Sylvie in the wheel that they need him or else things will blow up including her branch. Also she probably tracked them after last episode's events especially she helped them interrupt the pruning.
Dude not only does she most likely have he who remains's timepad picking it up after she killed him which could give her access to a lot of stuff but she also had more than enough opportunities to place a bug or a tracker on loki himself@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord we've had multiple characters mention the ability to track usage of the time doors, she was also very good at hiding in season 1 but I can't remember if they explicitly show her doing it back then, but its definitely a thing this season.
The timelines growing back makes perfect sense. he who remains created this loop. when he had the tva handbook delivered to his variant he set that variant on a path to become He Who Remains which will lead to him creating the sacred timeline all over again causing the same series of events to happen over and over again on a loop. i love the writing for this season so far.
@@MuddywatermultimediaGroup loki and moebius found him in a different century, its the nineteenhundreds. We all just asumed that he meant the future. Hell one of his variants thats part of the councel of Kang, is from ancient egypt
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord he told them that they either kill him and end up here again or they take his place because he is at the end of his life anyway.
@@FloundFahrdienst how is he at the end of his like hes immoral he controls time? And no he also says he doesn't know what will happen correct? But made a fail safe just in case they kill him? So how about dont let them kill you Kang this is stupid and convoluted for no reason. It made sense when he simply didn't care and was willing to let other people be in control but if he was just gonna have himself replace himself thats stupid and unnecessary.
The timelines that “grew back” are brand new ones that are cropping up in the place of the ones that were just pruned. This is the entire reason why the TVA exists. I don’t see why it’s an issue to see that branches are growing back. The impact of the ones that got pruned in the previous episode was due to the fact that so many lives were lost. Their goal is to not have any branches prune anymore.
although true the problem is that there is no impact, there isn't a moment to explore the repercussions or philosophical impacts of infinite timelines. It's just a blip of a line and it gives off the impression that the show isn't willing to commit to anything and it sets up a mechanism to retcon anything they want at any moment which curtails any potential stakes and has instantly made the show boring.
@@Guardian_Arias does it really matter? Either way, trillions of lives were lost. It doesn’t matter if there are infinitely more people to replace them, lives were cut short for the simple reason of “we need the sacred timeline to be the only one!”
It's called 'tonal whiplash', and it happened multiple times. In the first season branches were pruned regularly and everyone in the TVA was fine with it. In the span of a day, it's portrayed as a huge tragedy when all the branches were pruned at once and everyone in the TVA is heartbroken (because mass genocide is not cool when it's done for evil instead of good?). And now literal minutes later, branches are growing back and they're a problem again.
The fact we're having such a detailed conversation around a marvel show just proves how great this one is compared to everything they've been doing lately
Silvie has "he who remains" super duper black and gold time pad that's how she can warp to the end of time and know everything. It absolutely was explained in season 1.
I find it very interesting we have a character named Ouroboros in this show and Timely thinks of him as an idol and a mentor because of Renslayer and Miss Minutes interfernce. because the mythological creature Ouroboros symbolizes the perpetual cycle of form in an eternal cycle of destruction and re-creation exactly like Kang. What if Ouroboros and the TVA meltdown is a sort of Canon event orchestrated by He who remains to position a even more powerful version of himself in charge of everything again after his death...
@@MuddywatermultimediaGroup Yeah i believe Ouroboros whole purpose of existing is to serve as Plan B in the case the primary kang dies and be soft rebooted. Probably also why he isn't meddled with and had his memory tampered with.
If anything OB is just a guy who gives exposition You ask him anything, and he’ll answer it so they skip some time in the first two episodes There literally isn’t one question that he doesn’t answer in some sort of way
The Kang from Antman was an exile who had to use broken scraps of his tech and he still created an entire civilization and ran it . Imagine a group of them with all of their resources
I would preferred if they ditched the "psycho AI gf" angle and just slowly build her up to be this corrupting influence to turn Timely into He Who Remains. Disney is rushing character development again, cramping a season's worth of backstory into one episode.
Damm right! Even the loki has female loki. So why kang doest have his version as female and what makes it's crazy that loki in love with loki ....so why wont the kang does?
I liked that Balder was mentioned in this episode. The MCU just straight up ignoring his existence in the Thor movies always annoyed me since I’m a fan of Norse mythology and the Thor comics. Reportedly, Balder was supposed to appear as a member of the Illuminati in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness and was gonna be played by Daniel Craig, but Craig couldn’t come back for the reshoots. I hope getting a name drop means he’ll appear in the near future. The Illuminati had an empty chair in Doctor Strange and fans have theorized that that was supposed to be Balder’s, so maybe he can appear in Loki or Secret Wars and be played by Craig. 🤞🤞
I thought this episode was wayyyy better than the last. I'm really happy with how Majors is able to differentiate the Kangs, I worried about that a bit
Opposite for me. I thought it was just an awful episode compared to others. I also thought this was a poor performance from Majors. That stuttering was so annoying and just bizarre that I wanted to throttle the character and tell him to hurry up and stop wasting episode time, or stop sounding so fake. Anyway, it’s highly unlikely we are going to see Kang too much after Loki finishes with the girlfriend abuse allegations making him untouchable for future roles. So, I suppose it’s good we won’t have to suffer poor acting like this again. Besides that, I also feel Kang should have an air of menace, but we’ve yet to see any of that for any of the Kangs we’ve seen.
@@makasete30 i have to disagree. He is a version of He who remains that had aready a weird voice cadence. It makes completely cense that as is always geniously intelligent in every timeline, his versions have something off in their talk pattern.
It’s probably because You never met a speech impaired Genius. It’s not as common today because we have so much help and assistance today but back then shut in geniuses didn’t focus on there communication skills.
I agree its weird the fans are disagreeing with this angry guy sitting in the middle with no substance or understanding the comic book and story line is heading. Offers no better story just complains. This cant wait for more
They explained in S1 that the branches naturally grow back. That is the point of the TVA agents that they constantly have to prune new branches thus killing billions of people in those branches. The civil war was the main “good guys” wanting to stop pruning branches and the other team from ep 1-2 wanting to continue pruning branches as they did in the past. The good team won so now there are new branches forming
Yea not sure how they forgot that. But that is my problem with the show right now. Like why were they so shocked and sad when the branches were destroyed when they literally have been doing that this entire time? Like heck?
Very good episode to me and not going downward. I like how this episode made miss minutes seem so weird and I'm actually interested in what crazy things she might do later. Also Jonathan Majors acting was amazing and he really brought out this character
I actually really liked this episode cuz it was showing you similar stuff with different outcomes, yes Loki and Sylvie fight again but now her hate is gone cuz she killed the really villain and not this unknown variable, we got more morbius and renslayer fighting but now she’s doubled down into insanity cuz she’s craving power to stop the chaos, yes storylines are “rehashed” but the outcomes are setting up immediate consequences that could be tackled in the next episode and I’m fine with that, plus this series has don’t a decent job to have slightly better camera work than usual and keeping Loki’s power’s interesting(the shadow grab of brad in episode 2)
@24:27 But wasn't the whole conflict between Loki and Sylvie on the ferris wheel a huge spat where Loki was yelling to Sylvie that they needed him to save all the timelines, especially the one Sylvie wants to stay in, because without Victor Timely no one could fix the problem at the TVA (the temporal loom)? That part made it seem pretty clear to me the stakes that were on the line. Also the bit about how Sylvie knew about this event happening, she spent pretty much her whole life running from the TVA which was set up in season 1. So it would make logical sense that she should be able to work her way around a tempad and also know how to pinpoint other people's tempad jumps after years of experience. If I had to guess, they probably didn't want to put an extra scene about how she found them because it would break the pacing of what they were already currently showing. The whole objective from Loki and Mobius was to find just Renslayer and bring her back to the TVA. Renslayer just so happened to be on a mission given by Miss Minutes, from He Who Remains, to set Victor Timely on a path that would probably make him into He Who Remains. These are just my thoughts and observations.
I just watched Loki season1 for a refresh. When reslayer says she’s going to find ‘ free will’ she saying she’s going to look for kang, earlier she said “he is literally free will” and says he’s the only one who deserves to have free will
Probably Loki Phased out Loki in episode one. He was in the future. He found Sylvie and she said "There you are!" Meaning she was looking for him. That means future Loki was there already. He probably went searching for a phase stick because he remembered that he couldn't find one in the past, and he remembered he was at the elevator in that moment. So he went to get a stick so he can phase himself from the past back to his time. We'll probably see him searching for a stick, running to the elevator, tase himself and be like "Come on we have to go" and Sylvie would be like "Did you just tased yourself?". And Loki would say "Long story". Edit after episode 4: Guy could someone please pick up that phone?! BECAUSE I FUCKING CALLED IT!!! 😂❤
Did anyone catch that when Renslayer went to 1863 it said she was on the sacred timeline but when she arrives in 1893 it says branched timeline? Like He Who Remains wanted the timeline to branch for some reason
Although, Disney can easily screw it up, the main thing I took from this episode is that we may not have seen the strongest variant of Kang yet and the MCU can move past that horrible decision to add him to Ant-Man and instead reveal a new true threat.
@MarvelousMusicmmusic Nah nah, Disney f'd up. Kang the Conqueor was supposed to be able to survive in Antman 3. Literally none of them can destroy him. I understand Immortus is the most menacing, but Kang the Conqueuror is a walking character plothole when he decided to stopped blasting ajd get destroyed by some weak ass ants.
1. That's not saying much. The past few years have been god awful so there's nothing good to compare it to 2. Loki is a good litmus test to weed out people with a brain from those who are just the "turn brain off consume product" people Loki is shit and horribly written but it's not as shit as Antman so... yay?
@@Gongshow96it ain't that bad lmao it's a solid 8 so far. And no way home came out forever ago and is it better than guardians 3 nawh but stop hating just to hate its obvious
I forgot his name, but the guy that plays Victor acts really well!! My god, his speech to Sylvie about having “a good heart” made me teary eyed! Loved it!!
I actually preferred him when he was the "complete" He Who Remains. His acting for the geeky version didn't work that well IMO. But the character was a bit of a mess anyway, like it was both nerdy & goofy but also a sly conman with enough social skills and quick thinking.
The timeliness growing back makes perfect sense. Or the correct way of saying it, new timelines are forming. Anytime a variant comes into being, a new timeline should form branching off of the main one. So I think the writers just worded it poorly. The timelines aren't regrowing. New timelines are being created when a new variant appears that isn't pruned by the TVA.
I think the guys need to take a break from reviewing TV shows. The amount of things they don't understand or just plan don't know is astounding. There were so many WTF moments in this review I lost count.
I agree. They seem so braindead, and this is their job. Literally scholded OG last week that the episode is called breaking bad, when it was actually called breaking Brad. It’s obvious they just have some beers and kick it with the bros and just make fun of the show while watching.
suprise they said nothing happened. lot of thing happen. they caught Kane and he may help them. tva orgin, Sylvia making that choice, Kane back story, rinalayer and ns minutes rivalry then joining forces. ms minutes going crazy, seeing the world's fair. some comparison between loki and timely. lot of stuff
The six episode format continuously proves to be a problem. It feels like we’re trying to cram in more stuff while also not making it feel crammed, and the only way to do that is to have a natural episode length but it’s artificially forced to be six episodes. I feel like what we’re seeing with Loki is that even the better writers and better actors are bogged down by a season length that continuously bites these shows in the ass.
The problem is they use the first 2 episodes to showcase how new, special and epic this new series is, the middle 2 episodes drop severely in quality and then the last 2 episodes try to play catch up and hook the audiences with new storylines that won’t be resolved until next season.
This episode was great, complete disagree with most of your opinions. Loki did say everything was gonna blow up. They did not withhold information. He literally said they need him to save the TVA and without him everything they know will be gone everything. They haven’t revealed möbius either, that was literally apart of the conversation you guys loved so much in episode 1. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but y’all just straight up are not paying attention. It shows a lot this review. It was also revealed that renslayer was already working with he who remains in the first episode where Loki was time slipping and heard the recording in the past TVA. You guys are saying “what’s with these inconsistencies this and that” but y’all are just straight up aren’t paying attention. I understand y’all don’t like renslayer or miss minutes but it was already foreshadowed they play a big roll in these episodes when they name drop them and create these storylines around them. It sounds like anything about them you just tune out. You don’t have to like every character but it’s very disingenuous to complain when it was clearly already stated.
Yeah, I honestly have to disagree with the general opinion on this episode, I really enjoyed this one, though I was a little set back by how uncalculated renslayer was behaving. I think it made sense for Sylvie to still be up in arms about Timely but seeing his face and him not acting like a know it all that he who remains did make her more sympathetic to the guy and ultimately she didn't want to kill who could still be an innocent person. Honestly I kind of like Ms Minutes in that she's kind of a rouge element now but was surprised with how quickly she got obsessed over Timely. For me this episode was much better than last episode.
This isn't the same plot for Sylvie at all. I love this as an ethical dilemma. What do you do with someone who you KNOW has the potential for great evil but hasn't yet committed it?
I have to disagree with you guys this was a fun captivating episode. I would give it like a 8/10. It had action, good story and world building and it explored different time periods. If you guys remember last season you guys were complaining about not using the "time" factor of the show, now your complaining that they are exploring it...
@@ryanbolton7963 but why was she tracking them? How did she know it was a good time to track them? Why is she doing anything related to time travel last episode did we not learned she retired from this? So she works at McDonald's and still time travels? This sounds really stupid to me man im just being honest.
No its sucks too. It destroyed Lokis character completely. Sylvie sucks. Kang and his variants suck and are far superior in the comics. Johnathan Majors and his over acting is painful to watch. Only good things are the show looks nice and owen wilson
To be honest its like a 7.5/10 ~ roughly 7/10 or 8/10 area... it wasn't bad at all , interesting to see the book drop and how bad AI can get after eons being with one person.
What do you want from him? He's a legit representative for the viewers who actually want to watch stuff that makes sense and isn't just popcorn for your eyes. AJ is the hype guys and other Joe is the normal dude.
What miss minutes did in this episode remind me of Tinkerbell and Peter Pan or master chef and his ai where the helper have a massive crush on the human and try to get with them even though it never going to happen.
the only thing i was thinking on how Sylvie can see everything is because she has He Who Remains' special wrist tempad and I feel like that can just see everything everywhere all at once no matter what. She is legit the most powerful being in all of Marvel atm.
So she can see everything? Then why imwas see being so annoying in episode 3 and not realize that Victor Timely is a good Kang. Episode 3 was the first time where I rolled my eyes at Sylvie because ain't no way she's still being stupid. She just didn't want to listen and was being stubborn
I really love this episode, probably the best one yet and I really like Ms. Minutes character only because she reminds me one of those Cuphead (game) characters if you think about it
Sylvie took he who remains temp pad from season 1 she knows everything that's gonna happen that's the big twist that's how she is able to go basically anywhere she wants to go
Man I'm the opposite. I thought this was the best episode of the 3. Sorry to hear you guys didn't like it as much. Hopefully the next episode is better for you.
I liked this episode. If you remember last season they were complaining that the show didn't explore the time travel part. And now they complaining about the time travel..
The black girl in this show is actually a wife with kang so that's understandable and now people are saying miss minutes is the black girl version of her after this episode her variant. Heck the whole reason kang made tva is to bring he's wife and kids back after they died in he's main time line. So this is what this is all about a man who wants to bring back he's home.
*Miss* *Minutes-Sylvie-HWR-Victor-Ravonna* Miss Minutes was the major standout in this episode. Majors might have had the best performance in the episode but it was Miss Minutes who had the scene that kept lingering in our minds after the episode was done. From this fun, energetic, but enigmatic side character in S1 to what the hell was that in her first appearance in S2? But the more I let it marinate in my mind, I don't think what we saw from her was a big deal. It came from left field but does anybody believe she will get a body? She's essentially Rose in Two and a Half Men stalking and being obsessed with Charlie. That's really who she is. An AI / cartoon / hologram who can't move things caught in a love triangle. She's chasing HWR while HWR chased Ravonna. I doubt we're getting a J.A.R.V.I.S to Vision thing with her. I do love the concept of a 2D animated character drawn similar to that video game, Cuphead or cartoons from the 1920s-1940s, interacting with live action characters in a live action setting. This isn't common anymore since the move to 3D CG ala Toy Story. Even back when Who Framed Roger Rabbit? and Mary Poppins came out, this still wasn't common. Original Space Jam (1996) had Michael Jordan being in the cartoon world. Sylvie is becoming the most annoying character in Loki. Each time I see her come in trying to kill someone, I'm like, not again! This chick keeps ruining it for everyone like she's Quill in Infinity War. Check this out, why would He Who Remains ask two Lokis to take over the TVA and for the stupidest reason because he's old and worn out from it? Then why not ask Renslayer, a more experienced employee of the TVA? Even in the first episode, the mantra from Renslayer and Mobius is to NOT trust a Loki. They're all conniving. As much as I like Loki, I will never trust him. He is who he is. God of Mischief. He's not going to turn into a hero or boy scout overnight. He was born to be bad and perhaps that's the shocking surprise at the end of Ep 4 next week? The one that made Grace Randolph gasp? HWR could've easily asked Renslayer to take over the TVA. She has shown to be a leader as she used to be a school principal. She did make a point after she left the TVA, it went into shambles. So I'm thinking HWR wanted Sylvie to kill him. He knew she was going to do it which would then unleash all these Kang variants. Something must have happened between HWR and Renslayer prior to her being demoted as a judge. And maybe with Sylvie killing HWR which he wanted to happen, he could reset the relationship he had with Renslayer. It seems Renslayer still loves him the moment she had her quiet time together with this different variant which had MM awkwardly watching. Let's distinguish He Who Remains and Victor Timely as two different people. HWR is dead. Victor is a time variant of Kang like HWR was. Maybe Victor Timely was the one variant He Who Remains liked and trusted when he was still alive? The closest to his personality without ego or wanting to engage in wars like the countless other Kang variants? The most peaceful one. Although Victor is an obvious con artist. I'm now more interested in the HWR/Renslayer love story angle. I believe their breakup sent HWR to his death. The stuff with Miss Minutes is creepy and might be part of what happened after the HWR and Ravonna breakup, but something is up if HWR was hedging on a Loki to kill him. Sylvie wanted to kill him and he knew it would happen. Didn't move out of the way. He knew that moment would happen to loop another meeting/beginning between another variant of himself and Ravonna. That's the gambit. Unleash a multiverse war because he was lonely, getting old, tired of running the TVA, but really because he had a broken heart? If Miss Minutes is Renslayer's personality, HWR wants the real Ravonna back but his second chance can only happen with a different version of himself. We heard it on tape. It was almost like HWR was talking to her while they're in bed and Miss Minutes recorded it. That's the secret that MM may know. That MM is also Ravonna's subconscious. Each time they walk through that time travel door/portal, does it automatically choose the clothes for them? The characters can't choose what they'll wear? It does have great fashion sense. When Renslayer was wearing the same clothes from S1E6, she did look like she fitted in during 1868. She wasn't wearing some 90s t-shirt that would make her look out of place in the 1800s. BTW, Sylvie can use a TemPad to send Renslayer and Miss Minutes to the Citadel at the End of Time? I didn't get that part. Why didn't the characters from S1 do that? The only character I trust in this series is the guy taking his time around the Chicago World Fair and eating Cracker Jacks. I kept waiting for Jackie Chan from Shanghai Knights to show up. Mobius did say something interesting about how he sees and notices everything which is why he takes things slow. The rest of the cast looks suspect including new fan fav, O.B., who we still barely know. I love it. I love the mysteries and uncertainties. Is the surprise at the end of S2E4 that made Grace Randolph gasp involve Mobius or O.B. doing something completely shocking? Mobius better get his jet ski if he turns out to be the only trustworthy one. Least Sus 1. Mobius 2. B-15 3. Casey 4. O.B. Most Sus 1. Any Kang variant (Victor is a con artist) 2. Loki 👀 (Still selfish and egotistical?) 3. Miss Minutes (part of Renslayer's brain?) 4. Renslayer Brad and Dox are already captured.. Sylvie could be on either side. She's really the dumbest character ruining it for everybody. Sylvie wasn't the most likable character even back in S1. She's reckless and doesn't try to see things through. She let's her emotions get in the way of her better judgment. If Sylvie fell into the HWR trap where HWR wanted to die and she did him that favor, she's become live action Sabine Wren. Dumbest character in the series. Responsible for the killings of trillions of people all because she was traumatized like Wanda Maximoff. Again, I don't think the Miss Minutes thing is bigger than it really is. It was spooky in that moment talking about she wants a real body which is perfect for Halloween. Think of the early Claire episodes in LOST. They were always good and spooky. But in the end, Claire and her son, Aaron, weren't a big deal. Claire never even left the island or took care of her son. It was a well-written episode to make MM shine but I believe she'll go back being a supporting character. Miss Minutes doesn't have a real body. She can't move physical objects. How is she a threat? She's like R2-D2. She can be important but she's not the most important. A valuable supporting character. Nothing bad is going to happen to her. She's animated and will live forever. She's practically the mascot for the TVA, so she's not going to die. Disney still wants to sell merch and she's the face for that. I recently heard Tara Strong got fired from Boxtown for her support for Israel 🇮🇱. I don't believe Tara will get fired from Disney. Miss Minutes is just artificial intelligence perhaps created from Renslayer's thoughts and it's easy to replace a voice actress. I'm aware Tara is 50, probably had some cosmetic surgery on her including Botox and a boob job but I would love to see Miss Minutes in live action form looking like Tara. Miss Minutes will get quite a body! The most important characters in this episode were Victor and Renslayer. Because they're the two who can save the TVA from destruction. Miss Minutes is just a third wheel to the love triangle. Something bad happened a while back that made HWR give up on life and the TVA for him to basically ask a Loki to start another mess and reset another cycle with Ravonna. And Sylvie was foolish and emotional enough to make it all happen. Most realistically, HWR could've just asked Renslayer to take over the TVA and then commit suicide. Why ask Lokis when you heard all their talking, plotting, and are aware of their born loser reputation? Sylvie thought HWR was lying but he really got her to do what he wanted. He didn't need to kill himself. She did him a favor. His other variants have a chance to create a multiverse war. And his other variant (singular, word used in this episode) gets another chance with Renslayer. The entire Loki S1E6 (For All Time. Always) was about He Who Remains actually *wanting* *to* *die* because his heart was broken. He's the only Kang variant who doesn't want a multiverse war if he created the TVA to prevent them. Anakin Skywalker turned to the dark side because he wanted to save the ones he loved. Love makes people do crazy things. I'm thinking why didn't He Who Remains just pick up a different variant of Ravonna to fall for him? But I forgot he's trying to prevent a multiverse war from happening. I haven't rewatched 1893 yet but I do believe it's the best Loki episode yet. Easily the best-looking. Characters were running around and the actors looked like they were having fun in their 1890s outfits. It felt like a bunch of movies mashed together. I want to see them time travel like Marty, Doc, Bill, and Ted do in their movies and they did that. They stayed in 1893 for most of it. A real time travel episode which had almost everything including scares from a cartoon clock and romance between Victor and Ravonna. He Who Remains and Renslayer were/are the two most important characters of the TVA. Sylvie really f*cked up. She opened Pandora's box and everyone is dealing with the consequences. Even if HWR was lying, she still killed him and he got what he wanted. If Sylvie didn't kill him, TVA is fine and the Lokis simply take over. HWR would retire in peace. After we watch Secret Wars in 2027, it will go back to when Sylvie killed He Who Remains which set everything in motion the same way Sabine Wren gave the map back to Baylan.
To me I feel like 6 or 7 is fair, because it accomplished two things pretty well: introducing the new "he who remains" and wrapping up a loose end with Ms minutes and renslayer. It makes sense that the branches regrow, because the TVA no longer prunes branches (I don't think they're the same branches) and it keeps the tension for needing to find these other characters. Definitely above average television if you ask me... the love triangle was weird though.
Perez had been one of my very favorite drivers since 2011. But I know what he is. I always said he was a perfect midfield driver given his historic qualifying issues. I felt that was his Achilles heel at Mclaren and he proved it again at Force India. When he just needs to move forward on Sunday, that's what he does even when his teammates were faster on Saturday. He's still that driver, it's what he'll always be.
Anyone else think this episode was poorly lit and way too dark? The boat scene I had no idea what was happening when the life boat fell in the water, happened out of nowhere and I couldn't tell who it was at first.
6:21 The branches that weren't fully pruned begin to grow back, but they don't grow back the exact same way. It's like if you had a guy who worked as a teacher his entire life, and you erase that life and make him 4 years old again. Then the timeline restarts, and this guy grows up and becomes a businessman. His entire life as a teacher, and everything that happened in it, is still lost forever. And then multiply that by billions. The end of the last episode is meant to be tragic because before, the TVA were pruning branches early, when they were 'young' and before they diverged too much from the Sacred Timeline, and this was seen as a necessary evil. But those branches in ep 2 were well into the red and we're drastically different from the Sacred Timeline when they were bombed.
Dam... I don't know about this one guys, I loved this episode was it slow during the second act? Yes but I found myself invested with Kang's variant that it didn't bother me at all... And I Love Miss. Minutes I don't understand the hate you guys have with her.. If anything she became a lot more interest to me ... 8/10.
End of 2nd Ep, they showed Silvie had the controller used by He who Remains in the finale of Ssn 1. It's the pad he put on the desk when telling them to take over, she took it after killing He who remains. So she's able to access it all, moreso then the TVA temp pads. So that's how she could find them.
It's a shame that you're not finding Loki season 2 hitting on all cylinders. I'm totally enjoying the journey and character developments all round. Sure enough, the show's called Loki, but he's only going to shine if his supporting cast also does as well. And don't get be wrong, i ain't a Renslayer fan, but she like everyone will need some form of development. (The throw away the Branches are coming back timeline line, that's bugging y'all so much, - they're obviously different time line branches) Bring on episode 4....
@@lbabytutorials4852 he didn't reset the timeline. There is no Kang in Charge. Loki only saw the past before Kang hid himself away and made the time keepers. All that stuff happened long long ago which is why the others didnt know Loki. Currently the TVA has no leader
@@lightdarksoul2097 that makes no sense in the past he sees kangs statues and runs to mobius and b15 and he’s screaming about Kang and no one knows who he is when clearly there are statues of Kang behind them
I'm seriously baffled by the people praising Major's performance in this. It was truly awful. The stupid staggered talking, the fake stutter, I haven't seen acting this bad in a long time.
it's crazy too because Jonathan Majors can give a good performance. But I've hated the way he's performed in these variations of Kang. Just annoying voice tics
It took me 3 attempts to even finish this episode...it turned into a 3 stooges looney toons cat and mouse ep for a minute, and was so cliche and stupid. I also hated Kang from season 1 and can't stand his ridiculous acting in this one. It's so out of place even for this show, and ruins it imo. I really wanted something dark and looming. Sinister...not some highschool play theatrics of a villain.
I actually loved this episode, it was entertaining and funny. And I'm intrigued to see how this Kang variant truly is and if Ouroboros is actually a Villain of Kangs team or not
@@originaljips it wasn't a good episode we have one scene were being told if loki doesn't hurry and find kang the universe will be destroyed and they all die. The very next scene Loki and his bro chilling eating popcorn going sight seeing like wtf? The pacing in this episode was horrible.
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Honestly is that enough to say the episode was THE worst? Bro have u seen what shit Disney is doing lately? Honestly I was scared for this season, but they gave me the sparkle to be curious about Kang again. Its not perfect as we know it, but for me it is far from the shitty scenarios we had recently. Don't get me started on Ahsoka or Secret invasion. And I do love me some time travel madness, when its well put together. U need to accept a little level of goofyness. UNtil u cannot swallow anymore. Here its still acceptable and doesnt kill the storyline.
They were new branches. I think the point of the 30% complete line was that they were 30% to stabilising the timeline again. I think that, because in season 1 they said once it goes redline you can't just prune it, yet those bombs appeared to still work . I presume the issue isn't one of retconning, but semantics. Once branches have redlined the timeline becomes much more unstable, so that instead of just 1 or 2 variants happening occasionally, now they are far more common and it will take a LOT more work to handle it. That, or it's just that without He Who Remains giving them orders, they aren't able to strategically prune. He was able to understand how to mange it effectively but they are just hitting everything.
Chick Loki has he who remains timepad it makes sense his timepad would be the most powerful and could track everything. it shows you at McDonald's of episode 2
If a sidewheel paddle steamer leaves Chicago traveling 12 mph traveling 48 miles to Kenosha (the nearest Wisconsin port) and the world's best rower pursues at 4 mph, how many hours will the paddleboat beat the rower?
I really liked the first episode but now I can say I am practically hating this show! On one side, the art department, the scenery, the costumes, are all amazing. On the other hand the writing, dialogue and plot are HORRIBLE. A few thing only from this episode: - Loki was shown to be able to teleport people instantly in the fair, why did he not use it to save Timely from Sylvie two times and from Renslayer instead of standing doing nothing? - How can Miss Minutes travel alone through time? And can she interact with physical objects? She certainly did rip same flags when she got big in the fair. If so, why need Ren to pick up the book if she could do it? - When they find out Kang is at the fair and escaped, why can't they time travel back one day and get him there easily? - how many more times will Sylvie blame Loki for anything that goes wrong while he stands quiet looking dumb? - the last scene, oof, Renslayer appeared from the shadows somehow, then Sylvie too, somehow, while both protagonists stood there doing nothing, it's not like they don't have powers or anything. None of them knew the address or where to go. I also really dislike how Loki is a complete good guy now. He avoids any confrontation and just sucks up criticism or try to make excuses. Especially from all the women he meets. Only show some nerve against random not important characters.
1.I dont think he teleports i think he has many illusions of himself and it looks like he teleports around. 3. that creates another branch seems irresponsible. 4. "stands quiet looking dumb?"??? Are you sleeping during their conversations? 5. The whole episode they talk about how they track the tempads. I certainly understand noticing problems but only looking for them and not trying to figure out a solution on your own or watch it again... If you ever watched the show black mirror. It's got tons of plot holes per episode and you can predict the end usually halfway through but it doesnt stop the enjoyment.
@@NotSoSvenn 1. He actively teleported a guy into a cage in the fair. 2. One more branch to save the TVA. Seems justified. 4. I've been rolling my eyes during conversations. He is silent or making excuses. That doesn't fit his personality from the movies at all, where is his godly pride? even when he is wrong. 5. Timely doesn't have a time pad. And they can't track miss minutes, or they would've done it before. If you like it and this stuff don't matter to you, great, have fun! But you are also doing the writers job in your mind to fill all the gaps. I just don't understand the disparity between the art teams and the writers, but that is the focus of Disney's movies and show for the past decade or so. Imo
It makes sense branches are growing back. Like the whole point of the TVA is pruning branches. I didn’t take it as the exact same branches but other new ones forming. Remember, the TVA completely stopped pruning so more are going to grow
Jonathan Majors needs to keep getting praised because we've seen three variants of Kang and each one acted differently. The weakest one who got overwhelmed by stupid giant ants, that's the one where I feel Majors acts closer to characters he's done in other movies. The Quantumania Kang was definitely the least memorable one. This is why I hated Quantumania so much. Kang is supposed to be the big baddie in the next two Avengers movies and he lost to ants? 🤣 He Who Remains was a bit goofy. Victor Timely is this bubbling, stuttering confidence man (con man) but he also doesn't seem to be all that bad. A Kang variant but with a different personality.. Gugu Mbatha-Raw also needs to get some praise. I loved Renslayer's banter with Miss Minutes and Mobius. Seeing Gugu in that 1890s wardrobe and watching her banter and chase Victor around, you can tell the actors were having a great time like the filming for Grease and Barbie. The gang is back together and everyone is running all over the place! I wasn't sure about this actress in the first 4 episodes of Loki S1 but I'm now a believer in her. With He Who Remains gone, Ravonna Renslayer is now the most important character to run the TVA. She's the only one competent enough to get things organized again. She's a real leader. Renslayer told Mobius she worked for He Who Remains for *eons.* Do you know how many years are in an eon? ONE BILLION.
I just couldn’t stop thinking Ain’t no way they let black people mingle around like that in the 1800s. Maybe they were in a timeline where racism isn’t much of a thing.
You need to read up on some history. Illinois was ne of the most progressive Anti-discrimination states in the nation post American Civil War. It was also one of the first U.S States to ratify the 13th Amendment, the abolishment of slavery in the U.S.A. Should also mention that in 1879 just around a decade before this episode John W. E. Thomas became the first African American elected to the Illinois General Assembly. So I have no idea why that crossed your mind.
Keep in mind, most of the episode takes place inside the World's Fair. Everyone of all colors mingled there: Indians, East Asians, Latinos, Jews, etc. Of course, I don't think that many white folks at would sit and watch an amateur Black man pitch his invention nor would a wealthy industrialist make a business deal with him.
There was literally no time gap between seasons 1 and 2, of course characters have the same motivation as they had hours before this season starting.
There was time gap between ep 1 an 2. Whole thing with Brad, he was just guard in ep1 then famous actor in ep2.
remember that time flows differently from the TVA and all the other timelines. and he is refering to season 2 starting exactly where it left off at the end of the last S1 episode@@VVashabi
@@D4RKMA7TER you literally see kangs body rotted but not fully decomposed id imagine its about a month or two time gap.
@@VVashabi they’ve established time within the TVA isn’t the same as real time, Brad could’ve spend years living in that timeline & that could be seconds in TVA time, so unless they explicitly lay it out, can’t really predict actual time jumps
This channel cannot be seen as objective reviewers. They are too concerned with backlash from the nut job nerd subscribers..
“I hear the negative comments, but…. uh. Well, I’m gonna give this a 10 outta 10! Yes it wasn’t perfect, but blahbla” (not this particular episode, but too often, especially ahsoka)
They are definitely not getting paid by Disney. Just RUclips. I understand the motivation. 3mm nitwits shouting would have me saying dumb things too.
I think the main conflict this season will be the question of whether or not things are predestined. Is Timely destined to become Kang/He Who Remains or is he his own person who can make his own future? Loki is a villain in every timeline but if he can change, why does Timely have to be destined to become He Who Remains, why are the Kang variants destined to start the multiversal war? And if there is a multiversal war, does it have to play out the same way it did before? Maybe this time, there will be a better solution that allows different timelines/universes to co-exist peacefully.
If there are infinite timelines, then Timely will always be predestined to become kang. While always having freewill to not become kang.
I think after we saw all the Kangs in Antman 3, its already diffrent than what He who remains told us.
They all seem to be working together and the council of Kang is in place, there doesnt seem to be any conflict between them.
@FloundBlacky I read a comic summary. That Council of Kang is a tactic for the main Kangs to kill off all the weaker Kangs. That makes sense, because we know another Multiversal War is coming, and based on He Who Remains, the war started because of the Kang variants. So it wouldn't make sense that all Kangs are suddenly working together.
These comments are messing with my brain
@@FloundFahrdienstit's likely the heroes of the universes have become much more of an issue this time around. If they can destroy all Kangs at once who knows what may happen?
You don't understand Sylvie and Renslayer motivations, they are not crazy. Sylvie doesn't want revenge on He Who Remains variant, she wants to kill him so he won't become Kang and destroy her timeline. She clearly says in this episode that he will do terrible things and thats why she wants to kill him. Renslayer believes that what TVA does is necessary, so she follow He Who Remains orders to help his variant become who he should become and take over TVA.
We haven't seen Kang in this series yet. He who remains is the singular entity that defeated an unlimited number of Kangs. He is an antihero because he prunes timelines which is the most merciful way to keep Kang from brutally enslaving and murdering infinite people.
This is one of those episodes that I think you guys didn't pay attention to that much. Loki does warn Sylvie in the wheel that they need him or else things will blow up including her branch. Also she probably tracked them after last episode's events especially she helped them interrupt the pruning.
Wtf? Obviously she tracked them the question is how?
It doesnt matter
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Dude not only does she most likely have he who remains's timepad picking it up after she killed him which could give her access to a lot of stuff but she also had more than enough opportunities to place a bug or a tracker on loki himself@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
She has he who remains timepad thing.
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord we've had multiple characters mention the ability to track usage of the time doors, she was also very good at hiding in season 1 but I can't remember if they explicitly show her doing it back then, but its definitely a thing this season.
Victor Timely: Wanna buy some death sticks?
Obi Wan: You don't want to sell me death sticks.
The timelines growing back makes perfect sense. he who remains created this loop. when he had the tva handbook delivered to his variant he set that variant on a path to become He Who Remains which will lead to him creating the sacred timeline all over again causing the same series of events to happen over and over again on a loop. i love the writing for this season so far.
yes but didnt he who remains say he was from a different century? maybe he was lying
@@MuddywatermultimediaGroup loki and moebius found him in a different century, its the nineteenhundreds. We all just asumed that he meant the future. Hell one of his variants thats part of the councel of Kang, is from ancient egypt
But that is stupid then why let himself be killed if he want to things to be a status quo?
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord he told them that they either kill him and end up here again or they take his place because he is at the end of his life anyway.
@@FloundFahrdienst how is he at the end of his like hes immoral he controls time? And no he also says he doesn't know what will happen correct? But made a fail safe just in case they kill him? So how about dont let them kill you Kang this is stupid and convoluted for no reason. It made sense when he simply didn't care and was willing to let other people be in control but if he was just gonna have himself replace himself thats stupid and unnecessary.
The timelines that “grew back” are brand new ones that are cropping up in the place of the ones that were just pruned. This is the entire reason why the TVA exists. I don’t see why it’s an issue to see that branches are growing back. The impact of the ones that got pruned in the previous episode was due to the fact that so many lives were lost. Their goal is to not have any branches prune anymore.
Yea, I don't think they pay attention 😅
although true the problem is that there is no impact, there isn't a moment to explore the repercussions or philosophical impacts of infinite timelines. It's just a blip of a line and it gives off the impression that the show isn't willing to commit to anything and it sets up a mechanism to retcon anything they want at any moment which curtails any potential stakes and has instantly made the show boring.
@@Guardian_Arias does it really matter? Either way, trillions of lives were lost. It doesn’t matter if there are infinitely more people to replace them, lives were cut short for the simple reason of “we need the sacred timeline to be the only one!”
It's called 'tonal whiplash', and it happened multiple times. In the first season branches were pruned regularly and everyone in the TVA was fine with it. In the span of a day, it's portrayed as a huge tragedy when all the branches were pruned at once and everyone in the TVA is heartbroken (because mass genocide is not cool when it's done for evil instead of good?). And now literal minutes later, branches are growing back and they're a problem again.
The fact we're having such a detailed conversation around a marvel show just proves how great this one is compared to everything they've been doing lately
I hate when people think they are smart for finding plot holes.
27:49 They showed Renslayer's original life in the first season. She was a school principal.
THANK YOU. I just commented that
Silvie has "he who remains" super duper black and gold time pad that's how she can warp to the end of time and know everything. It absolutely was explained in season 1.
The original tempad yeah. It basically can move all over time as it wishes and likely can read other tempads to follow them
I find it very interesting we have a character named Ouroboros in this show and Timely thinks of him as an idol and a mentor because of Renslayer and Miss Minutes interfernce. because the mythological creature Ouroboros symbolizes the perpetual cycle of form in an eternal cycle of destruction and re-creation exactly like Kang. What if Ouroboros and the TVA meltdown is a sort of Canon event orchestrated by He who remains to position a even more powerful version of himself in charge of everything again after his death...
the snake eating itself, yeah i thought of that too, its also can symbolize eternity and time itself.
@@MuddywatermultimediaGroup Yeah i believe Ouroboros whole purpose of existing is to serve as Plan B in the case the primary kang dies and be soft rebooted. Probably also why he isn't meddled with and had his memory tampered with.
@@antdigiulio4285 good theory
You forget the part where Loki starts the rebirth cycle in mythology
If anything OB is just a guy who gives exposition
You ask him anything, and he’ll answer it so they skip some time in the first two episodes
There literally isn’t one question that he doesn’t answer in some sort of way
The Kang from Antman was an exile who had to use broken scraps of his tech and he still created an entire civilization and ran it . Imagine a group of them with all of their resources
The entire first half was like watching a stooges movie? Why didnt loki just grab him and throw him into a time door???????
Miss minutes is a super interesting character in my opinion.
I never found her interesting until this episode. It was so creepy
@@rollind2456 i can understand that
I like Ms. Minutes.
@@myko740 nice :)
I would preferred if they ditched the "psycho AI gf" angle and just slowly build her up to be this corrupting influence to turn Timely into He Who Remains. Disney is rushing character development again, cramping a season's worth of backstory into one episode.
I think the act of giving him the book is what branched the timeline.
Duh.
No that must have happened the first time because how else is a guy in 1800s gonna make time machines.
My money on the "Big Secret" is that Renslayer is actually a variant of Kang - you heard it here first 😁
I was thinking the same lol
I thought the same thing at the end.
How though as she is loki the female version of loki
@@mysticstrikeforce5957 wrong female character
Damm right! Even the loki has female loki. So why kang doest have his version as female and what makes it's crazy that loki in love with loki ....so why wont the kang does?
I liked that Balder was mentioned in this episode. The MCU just straight up ignoring his existence in the Thor movies always annoyed me since I’m a fan of Norse mythology and the Thor comics. Reportedly, Balder was supposed to appear as a member of the Illuminati in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness and was gonna be played by Daniel Craig, but Craig couldn’t come back for the reshoots. I hope getting a name drop means he’ll appear in the near future. The Illuminati had an empty chair in Doctor Strange and fans have theorized that that was supposed to be Balder’s, so maybe he can appear in Loki or Secret Wars and be played by Craig. 🤞🤞
I think the missing seat was for superior ironman
@@marioluisbonoan6175 Makes more sense for it to be for an Asgardian.
@@matthewjarek3026 then who made those ultrons drones
its called mcu not Norde CU
I thought this episode was wayyyy better than the last. I'm really happy with how Majors is able to differentiate the Kangs, I worried about that a bit
Opposite for me. I thought it was just an awful episode compared to others. I also thought this was a poor performance from Majors. That stuttering was so annoying and just bizarre that I wanted to throttle the character and tell him to hurry up and stop wasting episode time, or stop sounding so fake.
Anyway, it’s highly unlikely we are going to see Kang too much after Loki finishes with the girlfriend abuse allegations making him untouchable for future roles. So, I suppose it’s good we won’t have to suffer poor acting like this again.
Besides that, I also feel Kang should have an air of menace, but we’ve yet to see any of that for any of the Kangs we’ve seen.
@@makasete30 i have to disagree. He is a version of He who remains that had aready a weird voice cadence. It makes completely cense that as is always geniously intelligent in every timeline, his versions have something off in their talk pattern.
It’s probably because You never met a speech impaired Genius. It’s not as common today because we have so much help and assistance today but back then shut in geniuses didn’t focus on there communication skills.
@@makasete30 Same! I fast-forward to the end.
I agree its weird the fans are disagreeing with this angry guy sitting in the middle with no substance or understanding the comic book and story line is heading. Offers no better story just complains. This cant wait for more
They explained in S1 that the branches naturally grow back. That is the point of the TVA agents that they constantly have to prune new branches thus killing billions of people in those branches. The civil war was the main “good guys” wanting to stop pruning branches and the other team from ep 1-2 wanting to continue pruning branches as they did in the past. The good team won so now there are new branches forming
Yea not sure how they forgot that. But that is my problem with the show right now. Like why were they so shocked and sad when the branches were destroyed when they literally have been doing that this entire time? Like heck?
because they thought they were preventing something worse?
TVA was doing the trolley problem with trillions of lives prior to learning it was a lie.
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord finale of season 1 made them realise what they were doing was wrong.
Very good episode to me and not going downward. I like how this episode made miss minutes seem so weird and I'm actually interested in what crazy things she might do later. Also Jonathan Majors acting was amazing and he really brought out this character
I actually really liked this episode cuz it was showing you similar stuff with different outcomes, yes Loki and Sylvie fight again but now her hate is gone cuz she killed the really villain and not this unknown variable, we got more morbius and renslayer fighting but now she’s doubled down into insanity cuz she’s craving power to stop the chaos, yes storylines are “rehashed” but the outcomes are setting up immediate consequences that could be tackled in the next episode and I’m fine with that, plus this series has don’t a decent job to have slightly better camera work than usual and keeping Loki’s power’s interesting(the shadow grab of brad in episode 2)
@24:27
But wasn't the whole conflict between Loki and Sylvie on the ferris wheel a huge spat where Loki was yelling to Sylvie that they needed him to save all the timelines, especially the one Sylvie wants to stay in, because without Victor Timely no one could fix the problem at the TVA (the temporal loom)? That part made it seem pretty clear to me the stakes that were on the line.
Also the bit about how Sylvie knew about this event happening, she spent pretty much her whole life running from the TVA which was set up in season 1. So it would make logical sense that she should be able to work her way around a tempad and also know how to pinpoint other people's tempad jumps after years of experience. If I had to guess, they probably didn't want to put an extra scene about how she found them because it would break the pacing of what they were already currently showing.
The whole objective from Loki and Mobius was to find just Renslayer and bring her back to the TVA. Renslayer just so happened to be on a mission given by Miss Minutes, from He Who Remains, to set Victor Timely on a path that would probably make him into He Who Remains.
These are just my thoughts and observations.
Johnathan majors does a excellent job on impersonating different variants of himself
I just watched Loki season1 for a refresh. When reslayer says she’s going to find ‘ free will’ she saying she’s going to look for kang, earlier she said “he is literally free will” and says he’s the only one who deserves to have free will
Man I really hope Majors is innocent because he steals the show every time he's on screen.
@@benfoster93yeah, until his face was revealed I thought it was someone doing a voice. definitely not as good as previous appearances
He was terrible
He was fine
He is innocent
@@benfoster93He was incredible.
Probably Loki Phased out Loki in episode one.
He was in the future.
He found Sylvie and she said "There you are!" Meaning she was looking for him. That means future Loki was there already. He probably went searching for a phase stick because he remembered that he couldn't find one in the past, and he remembered he was at the elevator in that moment. So he went to get a stick so he can phase himself from the past back to his time.
We'll probably see him searching for a stick, running to the elevator, tase himself and be like "Come on we have to go" and Sylvie would be like "Did you just tased yourself?". And Loki would say "Long story".
Edit after episode 4: Guy could someone please pick up that phone?!
BECAUSE I FUCKING CALLED IT!!! 😂❤
That’s actually a good theory. I still think it was someone else who pruned him at that moment but your theory is very convincing. Lol
@@Thadrow Yo bro. Could you please pick up that phone?
BECAUSE I FUCKING CALLED IT!!! 😂❤
@@ezioauditore1300 haha when I saw it I was actually thinking about this comment. 🤣🤣good call
Did anyone catch that when Renslayer went to 1863 it said she was on the sacred timeline but when she arrives in 1893 it says branched timeline? Like He Who Remains wanted the timeline to branch for some reason
Maybe they need to smoke kangs, they ne to save the Tva and other ne to become he who remains….the tva one distracts everyone from him.
Yup. Likely so they could pluck a new Kang successor out of it, then prune it later.
Duh she dropped the TVA manual into a kids hands so of course that creates a branch.
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Although, Disney can easily screw it up, the main thing I took from this episode is that we may not have seen the strongest variant of Kang yet and the MCU can move past that horrible decision to add him to Ant-Man and instead reveal a new true threat.
That was the point from the beginning though
@MarvelousMusicmmusic Nah nah, Disney f'd up. Kang the Conqueor was supposed to be able to survive in Antman 3. Literally none of them can destroy him. I understand Immortus is the most menacing, but Kang the Conqueuror is a walking character plothole when he decided to stopped blasting ajd get destroyed by some weak ass ants.
@@UltimateQballyup
Loki is the best thing Marvel has done in years, and it ain't even close.
better than guardians 3 and no way home?
1. That's not saying much. The past few years have been god awful so there's nothing good to compare it to
2. Loki is a good litmus test to weed out people with a brain from those who are just the "turn brain off consume product" people
Loki is shit and horribly written but it's not as shit as Antman so... yay?
NWH (it is Sony's, so it might not fully apply) and Guardians of the Galaxy 3 are MUCH better
@@Gongshow96it ain't that bad lmao it's a solid 8 so far. And no way home came out forever ago and is it better than guardians 3 nawh but stop hating just to hate its obvious
Go home your drunk lmao 😂
I forgot his name, but the guy that plays Victor acts really well!! My god, his speech to Sylvie about having “a good heart” made me teary eyed! Loved it!!
Jonathan Majors
Lol simp
I actually preferred him when he was the "complete" He Who Remains.
His acting for the geeky version didn't work that well IMO.
But the character was a bit of a mess anyway, like it was both nerdy & goofy but also a sly conman with enough social skills and quick thinking.
The timeliness growing back makes perfect sense. Or the correct way of saying it, new timelines are forming. Anytime a variant comes into being, a new timeline should form branching off of the main one. So I think the writers just worded it poorly. The timelines aren't regrowing. New timelines are being created when a new variant appears that isn't pruned by the TVA.
Horrible takes. Best episode by far.
I think the guys need to take a break from reviewing TV shows. The amount of things they don't understand or just plan don't know is astounding. There were so many WTF moments in this review I lost count.
I agree. They seem so braindead, and this is their job. Literally scholded OG last week that the episode is called breaking bad, when it was actually called breaking Brad. It’s obvious they just have some beers and kick it with the bros and just make fun of the show while watching.
suprise they said nothing happened. lot of thing happen. they caught Kane and he may help them. tva orgin, Sylvia making that choice, Kane back story, rinalayer and ns minutes rivalry then joining forces. ms minutes going crazy, seeing the world's fair. some comparison between loki and timely. lot of stuff
If Kang reset the timeline and erased everyone’s memories how does everyone remember everything from season 1?
It really feels like they haven’t really watched the episodes this season. 😭
I enjoyed Miss Minutes going crazy. I also like when Marvel trys new things and experiments a bit.
The six episode format continuously proves to be a problem. It feels like we’re trying to cram in more stuff while also not making it feel crammed, and the only way to do that is to have a natural episode length but it’s artificially forced to be six episodes. I feel like what we’re seeing with Loki is that even the better writers and better actors are bogged down by a season length that continuously bites these shows in the ass.
The problem is they use the first 2 episodes to showcase how new, special and epic this new series is, the middle 2 episodes drop severely in quality and then the last 2 episodes try to play catch up and hook the audiences with new storylines that won’t be resolved until next season.
but peaky blinders pulled off 6 episode seasons
I dont think the problem with this episode was craming to much stuff. Felt like barley anything of note was going on the enitre time.
If Kang reset the timeline and erased everyone’s memories how does everyone remember everything from season 1?
This episode was great, complete disagree with most of your opinions. Loki did say everything was gonna blow up. They did not withhold information. He literally said they need him to save the TVA and without him everything they know will be gone everything. They haven’t revealed möbius either, that was literally apart of the conversation you guys loved so much in episode 1. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but y’all just straight up are not paying attention. It shows a lot this review. It was also revealed that renslayer was already working with he who remains in the first episode where Loki was time slipping and heard the recording in the past TVA. You guys are saying “what’s with these inconsistencies this and that” but y’all are just straight up aren’t paying attention. I understand y’all don’t like renslayer or miss minutes but it was already foreshadowed they play a big roll in these episodes when they name drop them and create these storylines around them. It sounds like anything about them you just tune out. You don’t have to like every character but it’s very disingenuous to complain when it was clearly already stated.
Amen.
Nah they got this one wrong this episode was dope lol
Yeah, I honestly have to disagree with the general opinion on this episode, I really enjoyed this one, though I was a little set back by how uncalculated renslayer was behaving.
I think it made sense for Sylvie to still be up in arms about Timely but seeing his face and him not acting like a know it all that he who remains did make her more sympathetic to the guy and ultimately she didn't want to kill who could still be an innocent person.
Honestly I kind of like Ms Minutes in that she's kind of a rouge element now but was surprised with how quickly she got obsessed over Timely.
For me this episode was much better than last episode.
This isn't the same plot for Sylvie at all. I love this as an ethical dilemma. What do you do with someone who you KNOW has the potential for great evil but hasn't yet committed it?
Renslayer .....what if she is a kang variant like silvi
I have to disagree with you guys this was a fun captivating episode. I would give it like a 8/10. It had action, good story and world building and it explored different time periods. If you guys remember last season you guys were complaining about not using the "time" factor of the show, now your complaining that they are exploring it...
Explaine to me how slyvie knew were Kang was?
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylordShe read the script
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord she was tracking loki and mobius using the device she got from killing he who remained
@@ryanbolton7963 but why was she tracking them? How did she know it was a good time to track them? Why is she doing anything related to time travel last episode did we not learned she retired from this? So she works at McDonald's and still time travels? This sounds really stupid to me man im just being honest.
Joe asking why the timelines are growing back is incredible. Almost like its the plot
This show is refreshing among the rest of the dumpster fire that is the MCU. Enjoyed it.
No its sucks too. It destroyed Lokis character completely. Sylvie sucks. Kang and his variants suck and are far superior in the comics. Johnathan Majors and his over acting is painful to watch. Only good things are the show looks nice and owen wilson
To be honest its like a 7.5/10 ~ roughly 7/10 or 8/10 area... it wasn't bad at all , interesting to see the book drop and how bad AI can get after eons being with one person.
Alex's constant negativity is killing me at this point
What do you want from him? He's a legit representative for the viewers who actually want to watch stuff that makes sense and isn't just popcorn for your eyes. AJ is the hype guys and other Joe is the normal dude.
Damn. I’m really surprised. I think this is really good and miss minutes is terrifying!
*finishes watching episode* wow that was a fun episode, I wonder what angry Joe thinks 5/10?!? Wtf?
What miss minutes did in this episode remind me of Tinkerbell and Peter Pan or master chef and his ai where the helper have a massive crush on the human and try to get with them even though it never going to happen.
OMG its hard to please them lol, how can this episode be lower than last week's episode jeez
It was kind of boring tbh
"hard to please them" it's a disney+ show
Because Loki running around and failing to get Timely despite having all the resources to do so is bad writing.
the only thing i was thinking on how Sylvie can see everything is because she has He Who Remains' special wrist tempad and I feel like that can just see everything everywhere all at once no matter what. She is legit the most powerful being in all of Marvel atm.
So she can see everything? Then why imwas see being so annoying in episode 3 and not realize that Victor Timely is a good Kang. Episode 3 was the first time where I rolled my eyes at Sylvie because ain't no way she's still being stupid. She just didn't want to listen and was being stubborn
I'm kinda pissed that Loki hasn't taken it from her yet.
@@UltimateQballI mean yeah Loki as a person no matter the version is a stubborn ass it's part of her
I really love this episode, probably the best one yet and I really like Ms. Minutes character only because she reminds me one of those Cuphead (game) characters if you think about it
Sylvie took he who remains temp pad from season 1 she knows everything that's gonna happen that's the big twist that's how she is able to go basically anywhere she wants to go
Man I'm the opposite. I thought this was the best episode of the 3. Sorry to hear you guys didn't like it as much. Hopefully the next episode is better for you.
Exactly my thought, i really enjoyed this episode, especially jonathan majors lifted it higher
@@dredrakonic9013 I agree. Majors stole the show.
I liked this episode. If you remember last season they were complaining that the show didn't explore the time travel part. And now they complaining about the time travel..
Lol I'm usually with these guys but I thought this was a 10. I was waiting for this video to hear them gush over the episode but I was wrong 🤣
They were far too generous with the score. The episode was a 3/10 at most.
The black girl in this show is actually a wife with kang so that's understandable and now people are saying miss minutes is the black girl version of her after this episode her variant. Heck the whole reason kang made tva is to bring he's wife and kids back after they died in he's main time line. So this is what this is all about a man who wants to bring back he's home.
*Miss* *Minutes-Sylvie-HWR-Victor-Ravonna*
Miss Minutes was the major standout in this episode. Majors might have had the best performance in the episode but it was Miss Minutes who had the scene that kept lingering in our minds after the episode was done. From this fun, energetic, but enigmatic side character in S1 to what the hell was that in her first appearance in S2?
But the more I let it marinate in my mind, I don't think what we saw from her was a big deal. It came from left field but does anybody believe she will get a body? She's essentially Rose in Two and a Half Men stalking and being obsessed with Charlie. That's really who she is. An AI / cartoon / hologram who can't move things caught in a love triangle. She's chasing HWR while HWR chased Ravonna. I doubt we're getting a J.A.R.V.I.S to Vision thing with her.
I do love the concept of a 2D animated character drawn similar to that video game, Cuphead or cartoons from the 1920s-1940s, interacting with live action characters in a live action setting. This isn't common anymore since the move to 3D CG ala Toy Story. Even back when Who Framed Roger Rabbit? and Mary Poppins came out, this still wasn't common. Original Space Jam (1996) had Michael Jordan being in the cartoon world.
Sylvie is becoming the most annoying character in Loki. Each time I see her come in trying to kill someone, I'm like, not again! This chick keeps ruining it for everyone like she's Quill in Infinity War. Check this out, why would He Who Remains ask two Lokis to take over the TVA and for the stupidest reason because he's old and worn out from it? Then why not ask Renslayer, a more experienced employee of the TVA?
Even in the first episode, the mantra from Renslayer and Mobius is to NOT trust a Loki. They're all conniving. As much as I like Loki, I will never trust him. He is who he is. God of Mischief. He's not going to turn into a hero or boy scout overnight. He was born to be bad and perhaps that's the shocking surprise at the end of Ep 4 next week? The one that made Grace Randolph gasp?
HWR could've easily asked Renslayer to take over the TVA. She has shown to be a leader as she used to be a school principal. She did make a point after she left the TVA, it went into shambles. So I'm thinking HWR wanted Sylvie to kill him. He knew she was going to do it which would then unleash all these Kang variants.
Something must have happened between HWR and Renslayer prior to her being demoted as a judge. And maybe with Sylvie killing HWR which he wanted to happen, he could reset the relationship he had with Renslayer. It seems Renslayer still loves him the moment she had her quiet time together with this different variant which had MM awkwardly watching.
Let's distinguish He Who Remains and Victor Timely as two different people. HWR is dead. Victor is a time variant of Kang like HWR was. Maybe Victor Timely was the one variant He Who Remains liked and trusted when he was still alive? The closest to his personality without ego or wanting to engage in wars like the countless other Kang variants? The most peaceful one. Although Victor is an obvious con artist.
I'm now more interested in the HWR/Renslayer love story angle. I believe their breakup sent HWR to his death. The stuff with Miss Minutes is creepy and might be part of what happened after the HWR and Ravonna breakup, but something is up if HWR was hedging on a Loki to kill him. Sylvie wanted to kill him and he knew it would happen. Didn't move out of the way. He knew that moment would happen to loop another meeting/beginning between another variant of himself and Ravonna.
That's the gambit. Unleash a multiverse war because he was lonely, getting old, tired of running the TVA, but really because he had a broken heart? If Miss Minutes is Renslayer's personality, HWR wants the real Ravonna back but his second chance can only happen with a different version of himself. We heard it on tape. It was almost like HWR was talking to her while they're in bed and Miss Minutes recorded it. That's the secret that MM may know. That MM is also Ravonna's subconscious.
Each time they walk through that time travel door/portal, does it automatically choose the clothes for them? The characters can't choose what they'll wear? It does have great fashion sense. When Renslayer was wearing the same clothes from S1E6, she did look like she fitted in during 1868. She wasn't wearing some 90s t-shirt that would make her look out of place in the 1800s.
BTW, Sylvie can use a TemPad to send Renslayer and Miss Minutes to the Citadel at the End of Time? I didn't get that part. Why didn't the characters from S1 do that?
The only character I trust in this series is the guy taking his time around the Chicago World Fair and eating Cracker Jacks. I kept waiting for Jackie Chan from Shanghai Knights to show up. Mobius did say something interesting about how he sees and notices everything which is why he takes things slow. The rest of the cast looks suspect including new fan fav, O.B., who we still barely know. I love it. I love the mysteries and uncertainties.
Is the surprise at the end of S2E4 that made Grace Randolph gasp involve Mobius or O.B. doing something completely shocking? Mobius better get his jet ski if he turns out to be the only trustworthy one.
Least Sus
1. Mobius
2. B-15
3. Casey
4. O.B.
Most Sus
1. Any Kang variant (Victor is a con artist)
2. Loki 👀 (Still selfish and egotistical?)
3. Miss Minutes (part of Renslayer's brain?)
4. Renslayer
Brad and Dox are already captured..
Sylvie could be on either side. She's really the dumbest character ruining it for everybody. Sylvie wasn't the most likable character even back in S1. She's reckless and doesn't try to see things through. She let's her emotions get in the way of her better judgment.
If Sylvie fell into the HWR trap where HWR wanted to die and she did him that favor, she's become live action Sabine Wren. Dumbest character in the series. Responsible for the killings of trillions of people all because she was traumatized like Wanda Maximoff.
Again, I don't think the Miss Minutes thing is bigger than it really is. It was spooky in that moment talking about she wants a real body which is perfect for Halloween. Think of the early Claire episodes in LOST. They were always good and spooky. But in the end, Claire and her son, Aaron, weren't a big deal. Claire never even left the island or took care of her son. It was a well-written episode to make MM shine but I believe she'll go back being a supporting character.
Miss Minutes doesn't have a real body. She can't move physical objects. How is she a threat? She's like R2-D2. She can be important but she's not the most important. A valuable supporting character. Nothing bad is going to happen to her. She's animated and will live forever. She's practically the mascot for the TVA, so she's not going to die. Disney still wants to sell merch and she's the face for that.
I recently heard Tara Strong got fired from Boxtown for her support for Israel 🇮🇱. I don't believe Tara will get fired from Disney. Miss Minutes is just artificial intelligence perhaps created from Renslayer's thoughts and it's easy to replace a voice actress. I'm aware Tara is 50, probably had some cosmetic surgery on her including Botox and a boob job but I would love to see Miss Minutes in live action form looking like Tara. Miss Minutes will get quite a body!
The most important characters in this episode were Victor and Renslayer. Because they're the two who can save the TVA from destruction. Miss Minutes is just a third wheel to the love triangle. Something bad happened a while back that made HWR give up on life and the TVA for him to basically ask a Loki to start another mess and reset another cycle with Ravonna. And Sylvie was foolish and emotional enough to make it all happen.
Most realistically, HWR could've just asked Renslayer to take over the TVA and then commit suicide. Why ask Lokis when you heard all their talking, plotting, and are aware of their born loser reputation? Sylvie thought HWR was lying but he really got her to do what he wanted. He didn't need to kill himself. She did him a favor. His other variants have a chance to create a multiverse war. And his other variant (singular, word used in this episode) gets another chance with Renslayer.
The entire Loki S1E6 (For All Time. Always) was about He Who Remains actually *wanting* *to* *die* because his heart was broken. He's the only Kang variant who doesn't want a multiverse war if he created the TVA to prevent them. Anakin Skywalker turned to the dark side because he wanted to save the ones he loved. Love makes people do crazy things. I'm thinking why didn't He Who Remains just pick up a different variant of Ravonna to fall for him? But I forgot he's trying to prevent a multiverse war from happening.
I haven't rewatched 1893 yet but I do believe it's the best Loki episode yet. Easily the best-looking. Characters were running around and the actors looked like they were having fun in their 1890s outfits. It felt like a bunch of movies mashed together. I want to see them time travel like Marty, Doc, Bill, and Ted do in their movies and they did that. They stayed in 1893 for most of it. A real time travel episode which had almost everything including scares from a cartoon clock and romance between Victor and Ravonna.
He Who Remains and Renslayer were/are the two most important characters of the TVA. Sylvie really f*cked up. She opened Pandora's box and everyone is dealing with the consequences. Even if HWR was lying, she still killed him and he got what he wanted. If Sylvie didn't kill him, TVA is fine and the Lokis simply take over. HWR would retire in peace. After we watch Secret Wars in 2027, it will go back to when Sylvie killed He Who Remains which set everything in motion the same way Sabine Wren gave the map back to Baylan.
Bro wrote an essay for a RUclips comment
Nobody's going to read this lol
I ain't reading all that. I stopped at some time. Couldn't even understand if this was all good or bad for you. But I appreciate your effort
Can I get a TLDR
NERD
Jonathon Majors steals and eats up every scene he’s in! Loved his performance 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Yeah, it's a shame he beats up his girlfriends
@@DiscRover bro, there's no evidence plus his gf fled the country he's innocent before being proven guilty
To me I feel like 6 or 7 is fair, because it accomplished two things pretty well: introducing the new "he who remains" and wrapping up a loose end with Ms minutes and renslayer. It makes sense that the branches regrow, because the TVA no longer prunes branches (I don't think they're the same branches) and it keeps the tension for needing to find these other characters. Definitely above average television if you ask me... the love triangle was weird though.
If Kang whipped out everyone’s memories how goes everyone remember eachother?
Perez had been one of my very favorite drivers since 2011. But I know what he is. I always said he was a perfect midfield driver given his historic qualifying issues. I felt that was his Achilles heel at Mclaren and he proved it again at Force India. When he just needs to move forward on Sunday, that's what he does even when his teammates were faster on Saturday. He's still that driver, it's what he'll always be.
A 6? You'll tripping lmfao. Nowadays the amount of time Alex make L takes is incredible. So consistent, he is so good in that
Anyone else think this episode was poorly lit and way too dark? The boat scene I had no idea what was happening when the life boat fell in the water, happened out of nowhere and I couldn't tell who it was at first.
6:21 The branches that weren't fully pruned begin to grow back, but they don't grow back the exact same way.
It's like if you had a guy who worked as a teacher his entire life, and you erase that life and make him 4 years old again. Then the timeline restarts, and this guy grows up and becomes a businessman. His entire life as a teacher, and everything that happened in it, is still lost forever. And then multiply that by billions.
The end of the last episode is meant to be tragic because before, the TVA were pruning branches early, when they were 'young' and before they diverged too much from the Sacred Timeline, and this was seen as a necessary evil. But those branches in ep 2 were well into the red and we're drastically different from the Sacred Timeline when they were bombed.
Dam... I don't know about this one guys, I loved this episode was it slow during the second act? Yes but I found myself invested with Kang's variant that it didn't bother me at all... And I Love Miss. Minutes I don't understand the hate you guys have with her.. If anything she became a lot more interest to me ... 8/10.
End of 2nd Ep, they showed Silvie had the controller used by He who Remains in the finale of Ssn 1.
It's the pad he put on the desk when telling them to take over, she took it after killing He who remains.
So she's able to access it all, moreso then the TVA temp pads. So that's how she could find them.
If Kang reset the timeline and erased everyone’s memories how does everyone remember everything from season 1?
It's a shame that you're not finding Loki season 2 hitting on all cylinders.
I'm totally enjoying the journey and character developments all round.
Sure enough, the show's called Loki, but he's only going to shine if his supporting cast also does as well.
And don't get be wrong, i ain't a Renslayer fan, but she like everyone will need some form of development.
(The throw away the Branches are coming back timeline line, that's bugging y'all so much, - they're obviously different time line branches)
Bring on episode 4....
I feel you guys are too hard, I get if you give it a 7, but 5 is brutal. It's not that bad, it was an enjoyable episode
27:59 They showed Mobius' past life? I thought part of his whole character is that he doesn't want to know because he thinks it doesnt matter.
They never showed his life just Revona
If Kang reset the timeline and erased everyone’s memories how does everyone remember everything from season 1?
@@lbabytutorials4852 he didn't reset the timeline. There is no Kang in Charge. Loki only saw the past before Kang hid himself away and made the time keepers. All that stuff happened long long ago which is why the others didnt know Loki. Currently the TVA has no leader
@@lightdarksoul2097 that makes no sense in the past he sees kangs statues and runs to mobius and b15 and he’s screaming about Kang and no one knows who he is when clearly there are statues of Kang behind them
Calling it, Timely will die to another Kang.
It was a good episode. Best of MCU at the moment
Sylvie treating all Kang variants the same is like the TVA targeting all Loki veriants, she is not even trying to take down the TVA anymore.
I'm seriously baffled by the people praising Major's performance in this. It was truly awful. The stupid staggered talking, the fake stutter, I haven't seen acting this bad in a long time.
It got real old real quick. The whole mad scientist scene just was ridiculous. Glad I'm not the only one
it's crazy too because Jonathan Majors can give a good performance. But I've hated the way he's performed in these variations of Kang. Just annoying voice tics
It was great. Keep being confused.
it was great for my opnion... it wasent bad acting lol
This one of the best tv shows for the moment It makes the viewer think and speculate. and its fun to see so many different locations and time periods.
Makes me think Marvel ruined one of their best characters and have no idea what the hell they are doing anymore.
@@alicesaxon601
they ruined a lot, yes
but compare to disney with star wars the are doing great 😁
@@HappyDude1 Disney owns marvel so...
@@alicesaxon601
Thats why its going so bad 😁
Did they own marvel when the good stuff was coming out ?
Like iron man thor and endgame ?
@@HappyDude1 endgame they did for sure
It took me 3 attempts to even finish this episode...it turned into a 3 stooges looney toons cat and mouse ep for a minute, and was so cliche and stupid. I also hated Kang from season 1 and can't stand his ridiculous acting in this one. It's so out of place even for this show, and ruins it imo. I really wanted something dark and looming. Sinister...not some highschool play theatrics of a villain.
I actually loved this episode, it was entertaining and funny. And I'm intrigued to see how this Kang variant truly is and if Ouroboros is actually a Villain of Kangs team or not
NO! Keyword is "back" if they were new branches, they would say New timelines are growing, you wouldn't say they are growing back.
Finally the guys are noticing. The episodes are fillers. 10m plot points stretched out into 30-40m
How is this episode worse than last weeks, either the premise is too complicated for some reviewers or people are just spoiled and expect perfection.
The epiosde was just boring plots boring. And little ro children at times.
People forget they were watching She Hulk and Ahsoka not long ago... This episode was really good, come on guys u hating right there..
@@originaljips it wasn't a good episode we have one scene were being told if loki doesn't hurry and find kang the universe will be destroyed and they all die. The very next scene Loki and his bro chilling eating popcorn going sight seeing like wtf? The pacing in this episode was horrible.
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Honestly is that enough to say the episode was THE worst? Bro have u seen what shit Disney is doing lately? Honestly I was scared for this season, but they gave me the sparkle to be curious about Kang again. Its not perfect as we know it, but for me it is far from the shitty scenarios we had recently. Don't get me started on Ahsoka or Secret invasion. And I do love me some time travel madness, when its well put together. U need to accept a little level of goofyness. UNtil u cannot swallow anymore. Here its still acceptable and doesnt kill the storyline.
this episode was a banger dont know what yall talkin about on this one
They were new branches. I think the point of the 30% complete line was that they were 30% to stabilising the timeline again.
I think that, because in season 1 they said once it goes redline you can't just prune it, yet those bombs appeared to still work . I presume the issue isn't one of retconning, but semantics. Once branches have redlined the timeline becomes much more unstable, so that instead of just 1 or 2 variants happening occasionally, now they are far more common and it will take a LOT more work to handle it.
That, or it's just that without He Who Remains giving them orders, they aren't able to strategically prune. He was able to understand how to mange it effectively but they are just hitting everything.
Renslayer is a variant of He Who Remains. That’s the secret lol
Nothing has been good since endgame 🤷♂️
Chick Loki has he who remains timepad it makes sense his timepad would be the most powerful and could track everything. it shows you at McDonald's of episode 2
This was a great episode. I felt it’s been keeping the quality consistent.
Im watching it now bored as heck
If a sidewheel paddle steamer leaves Chicago traveling 12 mph traveling 48 miles to Kenosha (the nearest Wisconsin port) and the world's best rower pursues at 4 mph, how many hours will the paddleboat beat the rower?
New timeliness are constantly being created thats why the TVA prunes them
Majors over acts
It's not as solid as it should be but I do like the mystery of Miss Minutes and the dead body of Kang
I think Viktor will become a good variant of Kang. There will still be other Kangs threatening the multiverse.
I really liked the first episode but now I can say I am practically hating this show! On one side, the art department, the scenery, the costumes, are all amazing. On the other hand the writing, dialogue and plot are HORRIBLE.
A few thing only from this episode:
- Loki was shown to be able to teleport people instantly in the fair, why did he not use it to save Timely from Sylvie two times and from Renslayer instead of standing doing nothing?
- How can Miss Minutes travel alone through time? And can she interact with physical objects? She certainly did rip same flags when she got big in the fair. If so, why need Ren to pick up the book if she could do it?
- When they find out Kang is at the fair and escaped, why can't they time travel back one day and get him there easily?
- how many more times will Sylvie blame Loki for anything that goes wrong while he stands quiet looking dumb?
- the last scene, oof, Renslayer appeared from the shadows somehow, then Sylvie too, somehow, while both protagonists stood there doing nothing, it's not like they don't have powers or anything. None of them knew the address or where to go.
I also really dislike how Loki is a complete good guy now. He avoids any confrontation and just sucks up criticism or try to make excuses. Especially from all the women he meets. Only show some nerve against random not important characters.
1.I dont think he teleports i think he has many illusions of himself and it looks like he teleports around.
3. that creates another branch seems irresponsible.
4. "stands quiet looking dumb?"??? Are you sleeping during their conversations?
5. The whole episode they talk about how they track the tempads.
I certainly understand noticing problems but only looking for them and not trying to figure out a solution on your own or watch it again...
If you ever watched the show black mirror. It's got tons of plot holes per episode and you can predict the end usually halfway through but it doesnt stop the enjoyment.
@@NotSoSvenn
1. He actively teleported a guy into a cage in the fair.
2. One more branch to save the TVA. Seems justified.
4. I've been rolling my eyes during conversations. He is silent or making excuses. That doesn't fit his personality from the movies at all, where is his godly pride? even when he is wrong.
5. Timely doesn't have a time pad. And they can't track miss minutes, or they would've done it before.
If you like it and this stuff don't matter to you, great, have fun! But you are also doing the writers job in your mind to fill all the gaps.
I just don't understand the disparity between the art teams and the writers, but that is the focus of Disney's movies and show for the past decade or so. Imo
OJ is slowly turning into Alex where is so damn critical of everything for the dumbest reasons.
I think Alex is just made the others more closer to him over the months
I'm saying it!!! The big secret is that Renslayer will be variant/daughter of Kang (because of Majors stuff)
27:50 yes we do, she was a school principal
It makes sense branches are growing back. Like the whole point of the TVA is pruning branches.
I didn’t take it as the exact same branches but other new ones forming. Remember, the TVA completely stopped pruning so more are going to grow
24:21 *THAT* is exactly what Loki is in this show!
Jonathan Majors needs to keep getting praised because we've seen three variants of Kang and each one acted differently. The weakest one who got overwhelmed by stupid giant ants, that's the one where I feel Majors acts closer to characters he's done in other movies.
The Quantumania Kang was definitely the least memorable one. This is why I hated Quantumania so much. Kang is supposed to be the big baddie in the next two Avengers movies and he lost to ants? 🤣 He Who Remains was a bit goofy. Victor Timely is this bubbling, stuttering confidence man (con man) but he also doesn't seem to be all that bad. A Kang variant but with a different personality..
Gugu Mbatha-Raw also needs to get some praise. I loved Renslayer's banter with Miss Minutes and Mobius. Seeing Gugu in that 1890s wardrobe and watching her banter and chase Victor around, you can tell the actors were having a great time like the filming for Grease and Barbie. The gang is back together and everyone is running all over the place!
I wasn't sure about this actress in the first 4 episodes of Loki S1 but I'm now a believer in her. With He Who Remains gone, Ravonna Renslayer is now the most important character to run the TVA. She's the only one competent enough to get things organized again. She's a real leader. Renslayer told Mobius she worked for He Who Remains for *eons.* Do you know how many years are in an eon? ONE BILLION.
the antman kang is THE kang the conqueror the most powerful one btw...
Idc what these 3 say I liked Miss Minutes
And really enjoyed the episode
🙂🙃🙂🙃
O.J. With a 5
Alex with a 5
AJ with 6
I just couldn’t stop thinking Ain’t no way they let black people mingle around like that in the 1800s. Maybe they were in a timeline where racism isn’t much of a thing.
Tell me you're from the south without telling me you're from the south.
@@whistlerwade actually Ohio but it’s as racist as the south.
@@whistlerwadewait til you found out theres racists in the north too
You need to read up on some history. Illinois was ne of the most progressive Anti-discrimination states in the nation post American Civil War. It was also one of the first U.S States to ratify the 13th Amendment, the abolishment of slavery in the U.S.A. Should also mention that in 1879 just around a decade before this episode John W. E. Thomas became the first African American elected to the Illinois General Assembly. So I have no idea why that crossed your mind.
Keep in mind, most of the episode takes place inside the World's Fair. Everyone of all colors mingled there: Indians, East Asians, Latinos, Jews, etc. Of course, I don't think that many white folks at would sit and watch an amateur Black man pitch his invention nor would a wealthy industrialist make a business deal with him.