Brilliant explanation Sir. I am a Hindu from India. I am glad you used the word "Sikhi" and not "Sikhism". This "-ism" suffix again is a western framework and once we accept it, we are constrained. We must employ our own frameworks for understanding our dharma. When we use the word "religion" for our dharmic traditions, we again are falling into the trap of employing western frameworks for analysing our thought systems. This artificial divide of their being a Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism or Jainism in India is false. We are intermingling streams. In terms of thinking about spiritual matters, we share a lot in common.
@J0nesjr Weirdos invented Pentium Chip, Went to Mars, Invented Zero, Mathematics, Physics, Metalurgy, Navigation ( Navy came from Navik) , the first ports and shipbuilding were used by HINDU Indians. India and Indians are now getting back to being a developed nation
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These terms are coined by Western Philosophers. Many of us are trying to understand Sikhi through the lens of these terms which are not specifically designed for Sikh philosophy. Look into MONISM and Advaita Vendanta. It may help.
Harpreet Singh lol If that was the case Guru sahib would of said look onto that but THEY DID NOT. They made a order only follow and bow down to GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI MAHARAJ. Stop adding man mat.
actually he is identifying that the British ethnography of the Sikh culture is also flawed when we lost our guru parampara. so it is important to hear him because i dont think hes there to just explicate the Katha without the context historically.
Last line is profound. Seva being an expression of realisation/understanding rather than an act done by an individual to help another. A less egotistical way of approaching seva. Amazing.
Loved the talk and also surprised by it. In my mind, the respect and admiration for Sikhism comes because of it's impact rather than its philosophy or theology. I mean that you can see the impact of the religion on the ground and in people's lives. Concepts like sewa, langar, keerat karna and chardi kala impact society and our own lives in very tangible ways.... So yes, this was a fun and intellectually stimulating video and it's interesting to see that there is speculation and analysis and interpretation of concepts going on, but to my mind the true value of sikhi is in it's impact and actions. By the way, no disrespect meant to anyone, guys. Just my thoughts after seeing a very philosophical, speculative kind of video on Sikhism.
Even though you have not taken the time to delve into Sikh philosophy, you are correct to an extent. This is because Sikhi does not reject this world as maya, falsehood, or illusion. It is quite real, and there is divinity in it, but you have to seek it and recognize it.
@@khoji5386 Is there a book that summarizes and gives an overview that you can recommend?? I have read a lot on the internet, but would like something concise that brings it all together
Much love and respect to Satpal Singh. Taking the redefined colonized "Sikhism" out of the box and exploring the Sikhi as explained and taught by our Guru Sahiban's as well as the mentioned bhagats. I totally agree with the way we have been taught to see "god" compared to Satguru teaching us how to see, experience and become one with Parmatma.
If this didn’t open you right up and free your way of thinking, this is not your path. Every word resonated with me, it is lens right through murky water ❤️🙏
यदि हमारे मन में किसी भी इन्सान/जीव के प्रति नफरत है चाहे वो किसी भी रुप में हो तो हम जीवन के असली रुप से अनजान ही रहेंगे। प्रेम से ही हमारा सत्य से नाता जुड़ेगा।
Ive thought and believed that the whole universe is part of the same thing/body/entity. As if we are cells in a living being. I know what he means by we are all one and the same with the whole universe. Since childhood i believed this.
Monotheism simply means the belief that there is only one god. It does not define what that one God is like! So you are misrepresenting a simple term to push your own thesis in a definitive language which leaves no room for discussion - only challenge.
As an example of monotheism - Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all monotheistic. But they differ in what their god is like. And even the concepts of heaven and hell differ amongst these three related religions to the extent that Jewish thinkers deny existence of Christian described heaven and hell.
ਤੂੰ ਦਰੀਆਉ ਸਭ ਤੁਝ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥ Thoon Dhareeaao Sabh Thujh Hee Maahi || You are the River - all are within You. ਤੁਝ ਬਿਨੁ ਦੂਜਾ ਕੋਈ ਨਾਹਿ ॥ Thujh Bin Dhoojaa Koee Naahi || Other than You, there is no one at all. ਆਸਾ (ਮਃ ੪) (੫੩) ੨:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੩੬੫ ਪੰ. ੧੪ Raag Asa Guru Ram Das Pantheistic this is. If you yourself haven't studied Guru Granth Sahib, how are you so confidently saying so?
@@MoAmmarHasan but what islam says that ALLAH is above 7 universe. Sitting on chair and watching us. he is not anywhere except that he will never come to earth he uses angels for that
This is Quantum Physics in real action. Well said. Indeed Guru Sahib says on Ang 736……RAAG SOOHEE, FIFTH MEHL, FIRST HOUSE: The actor stages the play, playing the many characters in different costumes; but when the play ends, he takes off the costumes, and then he is one, and only one. || 1 || How many forms and images appeared and disappeared? Where have they gone? Where did they come from? || 1 || Pause || Countless waves rise up from the water. Jewels and ornaments of many different forms are fashioned from gold. I have seen seeds of all kinds being planted - when the fruit ripens, the seeds appear in the same form as the original. || 2 || The one sky is reflected in thousands of water jugs, but when the jugs are broken, only the sky remains. Doubt comes from greed, emotional attachment and the corruption of Maya. Freed from doubt, one realizes the One Lord alone. || 3 || He is imperishable; He will never pass away. He does not come, and He does not go. The Perfect Guru has washed away the filth of ego. Says Nanak, I have obtained the supreme status. || 4 || 1 ||
John Harper lol says the Hindu extremist who bombed our people and burnt our holy hand written Granths from our Gurus shutup and use your long ass real name.
Someone finally said it. Thank u Paji. I am tired of getting mocked by Sikhs as I am a Hindu and they say we are polytheists and they are monotheists. I tried to tell them that we the people Sanatan Dharm are neither monotheistic nor polytheistic. We r panentheistic. They are never ready to listen 😭
@@abdulrehman6791 they don't contradict anything, if anything Abrahmic faiths contradict it. How can god be ONLY seperate from this universe, yet still be boundless at the same time?
@@highgroundgaming9161 if he becomes a part of this universe, he cannot be boundless because now he is restricted to the space time demensino, hes boundless by having no limitations, being apart of space time makes him have limits of time and space. Please understand, Thanks for engaging!
In Hinduism, we worship the different manifestations of BRAHMAN ( 'Divine One', also known as the Ultimate Reality . Hindus believe that Brahman is eternal and everywhere at once.). Bramha, Vishnu, Shiva are the different aspects of Bramhan. अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि-[Aham Brahman Asmi] "I am Brahman", or "I am Divine" ~Brihadaranyaka Upanishad
Thank you for a wonderful presentation. I identify as a Pagan and Pantheist, and also someone who venerates the Celtic deities. I see many similarities between the Sikh concept of the Divine and that of Celtic Paganism. It is a wonderful thing that although our cultures are so far apart geographically, our concept of the Divine is so similar. Go raibh maith agat, mo chara.
I became a Pantheist Pagan from studying both Hinduism and Sikhism, I see Vaheguru as a force, not a being and everything is an Avatar of Ein Sof (the endless one) blessed be :)
*VEDAS TOO SAY THERE'S ONLY ONE OM OR Brahman ( SUPREME CAUSE ) WHO IS FORMLESS ,NIRGUNA AND OMNIPRESENT.VEDANTISTS DONT BELEIVE IN HEAVEN OR HELL. IN HINDUISM HEAVEN IS NOT THE GOAL BUT MOKSHA IS*
geekhacks Islam explains that we’re all connected through the fitrah to worship and submit to Allah alone. The sun and the moon are in 100% submission to Allah and so are some of us but we are NOT the sun or the moon, that is absurd and unnecessary!!!
Dear Satpal Singh, I very much enjoyed your discussion of Sikhism as panentheism. Very profound. We seem to be in the midst of a religious disillusionment in all our traditions. I do believe that panentheism may be the key to shifting away from this theistic impasse. With Great appreciation, Br. Alberto
@UCP6_Of532qw3uMgYJ2C0zbg One of the names of God is "Ram" which means "rammya hoya". God not created but set up itself in the creation. What you're asking is the equivalent of asking, "What part of the sun is in the sun ray?"
@@pentaxtp7527 In Hinduism, God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. That's why it goes well with Hinduism. Like how the sun is present in all the rays of sun.
These pracharaks are making everything so complicated because they are into yoga practices and Buddhist meditation....let's just read Guru Granth Sahib ji and know the truth ourselves.
Complicated? just because they are teaching you the reality which tells you how closely Sikhi, budhism, jainism and sanatan dharma are ... it will break all political agendas and destroy hatred...
Ish no it’s not. This lecturer dosent use Sikh history or gurbani and it’s based on his opinions and what he thinks. Sikhi has a maryada and we can’t fall into manmat. We’re a unique Kaum and don’t fall into Santana dharma as bhai gurdas ji vaaran clearly states.
Bhin Bhin Kaka True, Christians believe in the God-head or Trinity, but it is believed as a single concept. The Hebrew word “echad” is used to describe the Abrahamic God by which multiple components unify to form one unit. Similarly, God is seen in the same light. As a result, they still believe in a “single” God and are therefore monotheistic.
@@amiitojsingh none of the prophets in the old testment preached or told their ppl that god is 3 in ono, even Jesus himself said the only true God who???????? THE FATHER. Trinity is a total paganism with clear cut proof. Isaiah 44:6 The Lord, Not Idols 6 “This is what the Lord says- Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God. John 17:3 New International Version (NIV) 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. JESUS PREACHED MONOTHEISM NOT TRINITY where in the newT Jesus said God is three in one clear not waffling around.
VAN when baptizing Christians, preachers refer back to Matthew 28:19, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” They don’t say, “ I baptize you in the name of the Father.” This verse shows that is it God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. I’m Genesis, when creating humans on the seventh day, God says, “Let US make man in OUR own image.” This text would not make sense without the Trinity. In 2 Corinthians 3:17, the Holy Spirit is also referenced to as God. “Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.” John 10:30 also perfect denies your claim that God is only the Father. In the NT, Jesus says, “I and the Father are one.” I could provide a plethora more of verses if you wish, but I believe you should get the point.
Things sikhs and Hindus have in common: 1) panentheism. 2) vaishnav themes and stories of bhagwat puran and Mahabharata. 3) shaktism in dasam granth. 4) chaubis avtar from dasam granth. 5) medieval gursikhs and hindus considered guru nanak as vishnu avtar. 6) concept of ishwar, jeev, prakriti based on vishishtadvaita vedanta. 7) all names of ten gurus were hindu names. Like hari gobind, hari krishan, ramdas, guru angad. 8) 95% of names of god in gurubani are names of mahavishnu. 9) rehat maryada of khalsa is based on rishi-muni parampara with kshatriya duties.
1) Fair 2) The use of hindu, islamic, buddhist etc. texts are not to endorse them but to help the comman man use them to illustrate moral points and what is being talked about, vaishnav to entice warrior spirit not vaishnav practices. 3)many videos on this it is for bravery and power, metaphors context is crucial 4) again they dont endorse it it is used to explain 5) rejected. 6)sikhi interpretation of ishwar jeev are distinct, need to stop viewing through an hinduism lens and actually read open mindedly 7) cultural 8) they all mean the same again just to illustrate, do not believe in multifaced deities such as hinduism, you ignore that allah is also mentioned, Christian, buddhist beliefs are mentioned, has no meaning again just to illustrate ideas 9) makes no sense, some things overlap but war and fighting is a broad term it is not unique to kshatriya duties, many other religions have these traditions and context, they are all molded to their own theological framework you cannot claim creating the invention of armies and fighting. there is no point in finding comonalities between religions they don't mean anything apart from the fact that you are undermining sikh beliefs by making their origin similar to hindu ones, respectfully if your religion is that great, then spread your own way instead of claiming traditions, beliefs from other religions hinduism explores great philosphosy and is amazing in its own teachings respect your own religion and show its full colours rather than this.
One God is here, now and everywhere. it starts with, "1" that means one god but God is in each and every particle, enjoying HIS own creation. God is one, but everywhere.. They figured out one God, but their knowledge was limited due to imperfections. We are all connected by fate and Karma...spiritually and physically we have same atoms as universe, hence "1"
@Q Min Yes, that'a what i said. We have different Karma and different fates. But the spiritual energy is same. i.e God. who is 1, everywhere, everything There is no you or I if we say it in respect to divine. But there is you and I if we compare each other...hence different Karma and fates... you are too diluting it.
Did mentioned in qurbani, that there are MANY Brahman, Vishnu, Sivas. Dissolution and recreation is a continuous process going on.. Some corners of the universe creation, taking place new galaxies forms, and other corner dissolution taking place.. That means there are chance for lives in other places.. Tru shabd creation is taking place, tru shabd dissolution is taking place
The Guru Granth Sahib opens with the basic concept of the One Universal, supreme Energy called by so many different names across humanity,. Ik oankar - One absolute being (God) Satnam - Eternal truth it's name Karta Purkh - Creator Nirbau - without fear Nirvair - without hate/ enmity Akal Murat - Deathless/timeless image Ajuni - Beyound birth and death Saibang - self existant Gurprasad - known by the Guru's Grace. This is repeated numerous times and at the start of every section as a constant reminder. In the words of the tenth Sikh Guru - Guru Gobind Singh "recognise the human race as ONE"
Guru Nanak's words sound a lot like monotheism; "The one Lord who created the world is the Lord of all. Fortunate is their advent into the world, whose hearts remain attached to God's service. O foolish man, why hast thou forgotten Him? When thou adjustest thine account, my friend, thou shalt be deemed educated. I. The Primal Being is the Giver; He alone is true. No account shall be due by the pious man who understandeth by means of these letters.
@@Vampiracho nope not monotheism dharmic religions are way different then how abharmic religions view the world, stop with the labelling of dharmic religions that you don't even understand.
sikhism is talking the cosmology or creation in relation with NAAMS.. Naams are living words, sounds.. not limited Naam. 5 punch shabad.. The cosmology of sikhism is talking not limited to the present creation where we are located, it s everything beyond the present creation, going further. The gurus had scan the whole creation tru NAAM in deep meditation. It is not a limited God, but unlimited.. Panentheism in sikhism tru Naams or living words.. God is still perfect always unchanging. Some thinks in panentheism, God is slowly becoming perfect.. this not in sikhism God is perfect always.. The immanence and transcendence of God in sikhism panentheism, is there no problem.. One creation can come and go, but other Creations are still there unaffected. A death is taking place in one house, and birth is taking place in another house.. God is the truth at the beginning, also the truth now, and shall be the truth at the end. This means God is still powerfull under his Will, he can become ONE again, all other things disappears. We surrender to his WILL
finally someone said it. It all comes from vedanta the arguments about god and it's existence. It has arguments for dvaita (polytheism /monotheism) Advaita (panentheism)
Why do Sikhs distance themselves so much from Hinduism/ Samatan Dharm? Karam, dharm , reincarnation, Omkar, belief in God in one God in multitude in forms, Gurus were Ved learners , were Pan Indian, defended and gave their lives for Hindustan. Yet today's Sikhs dont want in any way to have Hindu association , why?
There are several reasons, Some are -: 1) Britishers 2) Lahore Singh Sabha (Tat Khalsa) 3) 1984 4) Emotional Sikhs who fear Hindus will take their identity. 5) Hate towards Hinduism due to past political tragedies.... 6) Some Ugly attempts in the past by a few hindu groups to again merge Sikhism in Hinduism. Hope Everything get sorted soon ਸਤਨਾਮ ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਵਹੇਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ 🙏 ॐ शान्ति 🙏
@@trueperson6870 you forgot Khalistani political agenda. Forgot forgot Congress. Btw there isnt a single hindu who wants to change your identity. They want Sikhs to acknowledge that all 4 dharmic are from same root yet distinct religions. This way no political agenda can use it to divide us based on religion. That's all the RSS wants is to show all 4 Dharmic religions that they are from the same mother and father. So need to fight among brothers.
@@khoji5386 ok so I guess if I talk about similarities and our oness like our Guru Nanak ji did rather then you are Hindu and You are Sikh and all that rubbish it bothers people so much that they have to insult me. I see how inflammatory our minds have become.
@@khoji5386 first of all you need to get off your high horse and realize you are not the authority of Sikhism and the Vedic teachings of Bharat. Guru Nanak Dev jis writings and actions and history is the authority from what I am making my comments from. The Om if you understand it is Oneness and that oneness is present in most all Vedic religions including Sikhism . Ek Om (Ekem) derives or is the same as Om. The Ek was emphasizing the Om, the Hymm of the true divine written in the Vedas , written in the Granth sahib. The Vedas the Bharatiya writings predates the Granth Sahib. Guru Nanak Dev Ji was Bedi. He diligently studies the Vedas and went across Bharat spreading what his enlighten state made him realize that : there is no differentiation we are all one. Someone from a Bharatiya culture, a vedic culture , a Hindu culture Guru Nanak Devji. So yes if you can understand this then it is foolish to say Sikhism is not a Branch of Hinduism just as as Gurunanak Devji from a Hindu household branched out and taught his realization and created something of his own . If there was no Islam or Christianity there would still be Sikhism but if there was no Hinduism it's hard to contemplate from where Sikhism would arise? We are all capable of accepting divinity we are all the same. Sat Sri Akal.
@@khoji5386 as usual you try to to mock me instead of having an meaningful conversation. There is only so much explanation I can give you . Explanation of the Brahmandvad will go over your head. But enough of this petty nonsense with someone who has no openness to discuss but can do no better than attempt to demean. And after I go to the Gurdwara , yes I do have to go to my RSS meeting to prevent those who tear apart our culture with petty low thinking. Sat Sri Akal.
Budhism, sikhi, jainism all believe this. As this comes from Sanatan dharma. The vedas and upanishads teach this. Brahman is the universe. Gautum budha was a hindu king who started and spread budhism. Jainism and sikhism also sub sects of Sanatan dharma teachings. Hindu comes from the word Indu which comes from Sindhu, as greek and others had trouble pronouncing it. Hindu was a term used to describe the people that lived in the Sindhu region.
@@simranmehtab3757 tell me one thing Sikhi Teaches which is not in Hinduism. Ik Omkara:Given by Hindus Idea of one God(Parmatma):Given by Upanishads Idea of reincarnation: Given by Hindus(vedas,puranas) Idea of God present everywhere and in different forms: Given by Hinduism(Vedas) Idea of non Idol worship: Given By Arya and Brahmo samaj, and also Bhakti movement(Adi Shankaracharya). The idea of Idol Worship(like you bow down to GGS and GUrus):Given by Hindus The idea of Kalyug and Satyug: Given by Hindus(Ramayana and Puranas) Ideo of Keeping Kesh(and not cutting it) and 5 reminders: Given by Vedas All of these were given much before Sikhi came.I respect sikhism and I agree them o not be a part of sanatan but just saying..
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@@AkashSingh-mc1wv Exactly! One understands Sikhi better when one goes deeper into Sanatana Dharma.
_“God is not merely one, in the way that a finite object might be merely singular or unique, but is oneness as such, the one act of being and unity by which any finite thing exists and by which all things exist together.”_ - David Bentley Hart True Monotheism is Panentheism (Monistic Monotheism). The original concept of God is Monistic Monthotheism.
Hmm!! Panthesim have hidden duality the mind in panthesim is still looking at many seeing many gods as a single source but is Tawheed Or oneness the everything else is negeted and only the source is visible like that we are saved from seeing many and only see's one . We see one we hear one we only see our reflection but this state is a lonely place one cannot stay here forever so the self again decend into the multiverse and starts a new life of love towards oneself then everyone and everything in the universe become as he is. But this is not just mere talks its a reality words and acts should match the mind only than one can claim to have attain such a station just empty words mean nothing
John Harper lol too embarrassed to use your real name. How about you bug off from a Sikh channel. If you want a debate drop me your email. Had countless of debates with Hindu nationalists like yourselves who don’t even understand that your faith is a culture you have no real rehat or maryada. If you listen to bhai satosl Singh you’d understand half of what he says is his opinions he hardly talks about Sikh history very little use of gurbani. It’s more his opinions and interpretations. If you think we’re a copy and paste you got a hell a lot of issues. You guys have aghori Hindus and Hindus who worship Donald trump. We are proud Sikhs now start your ram katha somewhere else.
punit p idiot. You don’t understand that ram isnt referring to your idol but it was a metaphor just like Allah. Because we believe in one creator. Stupid sad lame hater
This changed my perspective Bhai sahib ji, but the way this discussion was worded was complicated and who the intended audience was must have had to have extensive knowledge in Sikh gurmat in order to understand your concept. I had the puzzle pieces necessary to include this brilliant concept into gurmat, but many people simply do not know how to fit this concept in with Sikh theology.
There is a slight difference in pantheism and Ik Onkar in pantheism everything is god here the mind of duality is still functioning but in Singularity or ik onkar there is no everything there is only 'I' , one see the reflection himself in everything, there is a duality in pantheism the lover is still a wanderer still looking for a beloved , but when the self realize that he is the mud of the cup , the cup , the jug the wine and the drunk one reaches the goal
There is no 'worship' of book like your idols. We respect the knowledge. If knowledge is even on a paper, we respect it. Without the knowledge we don't even care about it
Panentheism is a form of monotheism. Absolutizing terms rather than recognizing their inherent ambiguity and need for contextual definition only creates confusion in the long run. In terms of regular usage of the term monotheism, to say Sikhism isn't monotheistic is to say it is either polytheistic or atheistic. Even advaita can be understood as a kind of radical monotheism.
Exactly, God who is unseen, can be represented by any shape or form or even as deities, worshiping any deities as God is just as good as worshipping God in one's mind to a formless entity. People who do not understand the truth and are not willing to study other religions are the ones who accuse Hindus of worshipping stone idols, I worship my cats and dogs as they God lives in them, and he does, scientifically it can be proven that God the creator created everything from himself and from his one single point source, the big bang is when God used his mighty energy to create each and every particle or atom that formed universe and all things inside it, thus you and me and them are all part of that one creator, God did not go to some builders merchant to buy vast amounts of sand and cement to fashion universe, all of the universe is from God so he is within and outside it, beyond an average persons understanding, but this agrees with quantum mechanics. Let us face it, if matter was to be created from an unseen substance, it must start somewhere where very minute like million millionths of an atom, such that these sub atomic particles starts to clump together forming atoms which in turn starts to form solid matter, and all mighty explosions and reactions occur creating galaxies, and planets and stars, Guru Nanak had this vision over 550 years ago. Arjuna had this vision over 5000 years ago, Bhagavad gita predates Guru Nanak, but Guru Nanak confirmed the truth.
M Gabrielle Awesome explanation. We had many nameless gurus like Guru Nanak ji who had this gyaan. The atom when vibrating at a particular frequency gives it’s a form. The core of any being or non being is same vibrating at a different frequency. Avataars, many stories, stones are symbolic in nature for easy comprehension. It helps us to ignite our devotion and focus the love on the creator. Different dimensions have diff energies and the focus on each gives a different output in ones life. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@1800options Politics affects every religion - tends to be a minority who distort it but they speak the loudest so everyone assumes the whole religion is like that
God is both immanent within and transcendental to the Universe. The Universe is not God, it is an energetic modality that has it's source within God. God is the fundamental substrate of the Universe and then some.
Pantheism is the belief that God and the Universe are one and the same, and that neither of them transcend the other. Panentheism is the belief that God is greater than the Universe but also that God's Being includes and interpenetrates the Universe. Traditional Christian theology, although often categorized as Monotheistic, has always taught that God is simultaneously transcendent beyond all things as well as immanent within all good things (never within things, spirits or human actions that are evil). For Christians, God can use evil to produce good, but God is never willing the evil choice or thing to happen. God's will is always and only for what is good, but we are free to choose the good or to reject it. For the vast majority of Christian branches of faith, we believe in free moral agency.
Sikhism is part of the Hindu Dharma, the Snatana Dharma. In Hinduism we believe every molecule particle has god in it the supreme power. Don’t know just because Guru Nanak disnounced caste system which was the cultural thing with Hindus, doesn’t mean he denounced the whole Vedas and Geeta and Upanishad. He was questioning the status quo of that time by the powerful not the Vedanta itself. He was a child of Vedas. The only thing he could teach is vedas.
Parkash JavaScript Badal Citation please when Guru Nanak ji says Vedas are limited. Or is this the similar pakistani funded propaganda for divisive politics
Simran Mehtab Then how come sikhain teaches exactly same mysticism as any other Dharmic religion. Karma Reincarnation Moksha Sewa Meditation Simran Why does Abhramic religion Islam and Christianity don’t teach all what dharma teaches us. You never answer my questions just running away from the truth.
@Parkash JavaScript Badal are you a different human from your parents? Ofcourse you are a different entity. But your DNA and blood comes from your parents. Sikhism started 500-600 years ago and derives all of it from Sanatan dharma. Ik Onkar. Dharm. Karma. Seva. All these philosophies come from Vedas and upanishads and the sanskrit words. Accept our Sikhi origin and be proud. We are distinct from Sanatan Dharmic and Buddhists and jainism but we come from same root.
Well in Sikhism or Veda it is called BRAHM , BRAHM in Sanskrit JATHA SARVTA BHARMTI TASA NAMH BRAHMAN “ means that is vibrating in everything including conscious or matter , SAB GOBIND HEI SAB GOBIND HEI SAB GOBIND HEI GOBIND BIN NHE KOI , JAL TARANG OR PEND BUDBUDA JAL SE BIN NA HOI “means Everything is GOD everything is God just like water it’s wave and and main body of water on lower level is one , but in Abraham religion God is an physicality a body , a personal God hidden in the sky , but in Sikhism or Hinduism it is an impersonal GOD , VEDA SAYS “ OM ISHAVAYAMIDIM SARVAM YATKINCHA JAGTAM JAGAT “ means all the universe pervaded by GOD whatever it physically or non physically
Monotheism doesn’t have to mean God is in the heavens. That is a very literal perception of the idea of God, and I agree that is what most Christians, Muslims, etc. functionally worship; however, monotheism can be mystical too, as seen in Arya Samaj, Sufism, etc. At a certain point, we are really just playing semantic games.
Monotheism in its true sense does not mean God is separate from his creation through physical essence . God is not transcendent from creation neither is he within his creation both would limit him. God is everywhere but nowhere nothing contains him. There no is fixed location for him when we say he is in the heavens it does not mean through location. He is closer to us then the jugular vein but not through location or physicality or location. Panentheism would limit God as that would mean he is within his creation. God is inconceivable and not comprehended by the human mind the intellect cannot grasp him. It would help if you would ask before trying to translate monotheism to your own understanding of it.
Interesting concept but there isn't any one word that can describe Sikhism is about. However what is being described here is how a very small part of the universe works
I like that he's trying to explain difficult concepts even though some explanations are not perfect yet. With time explanations should get better but some one should try and continue doing so. What he's talking about in this video, sounded to me like being in a quantum world. If we lived in a quantum world, where quantum laws applied and people and object behaved like tiny atoms and particles, there is a sense in which things don't like to be tied down to just one location or to follow just one path. It would seem almost as if things were in more than 1 place at a time. And what you do in 1 place can have an immediate effect somewhere else, even if no one is there.
Id like to know the difference between Advaita Vedanta and Sikhism. Because the more i read on Sikhism it sounds like a version Hindu concept of Advaita Vedanta. Brahman and atman. Perhaps the gurus were inspired by the teachings of Adi Shankaracharya directly or indirectly.
@@incubusk8r I know very little about Advaita, so cannot comment on that. If you have any specific points that you might want to discuss with respect to Sikhism, then I may be able to help you. As far as I understand advait means no-two which is similar to saying "Aham Brahmasmi" (I'm absolute). In Sikhism, we believe God is one and prevails in everything, as symbolized by Ik Onkar (one all-pervading spirit). Our Baani teaches us that Lord has different names and that's okay. "koee bolai raam raam koee khudhaae || Some call the Lord 'Ram, Ram', and some 'Khuda'. koee saevai guseeaa koee alaahi ||1|| Some serve Him as 'Gusain', others as 'Allah'. kaaran karan kareem || He is the Cause of causes, and Generous.
R3DF4NG not really Brahman manipulated and changed things to suit their greed etc that’s why they put the 4 castes. Please read sakhis of Guru Nanak dev ji maharaj and Brahmins Guru sahib met when spreading sikhi.
There's a confusion here thinking that monotheism is mutually exclusive with panentheism. Look to the panentheists in say the Franciscan theology of Roman Catholics. As a student/ follower of a non dual Dharma you shouldn't really be getting stuck down in thinking in this way.
In contex of 550how my grandson gave me a lesson iput a garland to babaji photo and he said God is dead isaid no he saidthen he said then remove it it has meaning first me say sarbad da bhala
Beautifully explained. This happened to me i woke up in the morning a lady knocked on the door she was preaching bible and Christianity. She asked me what we believe in as sikh. I told he we believe in one god that jesus called father to. I said to her that jesus also preached in bible he is inside us. But she was admant saying to me no god is separated somewhere in clouds he cannot be here at the same time. So i gave up and agreed to her lol. Monotheism and panentheism are well explained here i will remember next if i see her.
I too discuss long debates about God with a Jehovah's witness, again good thing is many people say that God is formless and unseen, Lord Krishna was God he was not unseen was he, he came to earth as a human, so the Bible clearly confirms that God made man in his image to look like Him, how the hell do you want to interpret this? its clear God can come to earth in any form, otherwise he cannot be God. So its good because now we know how God looks like a human or humanoid, somewhere we don't know where, but he can have a son too, so that fits perfect with the Bible that Lord Jesus was indeed son of lord Krishna. In the beginning, the Bible says that God created man in his image and other creatures, he made man in charge of all creatures, but clearly says not for food because he said in Bible that God made grass and leafy things for animals to eat, and he made Grain and fruits and vegetable s for man to eat, that was when once the earth had heaven on it, until some rascal called Adam sinned and eat a forbidden fruit, so after that animals now eat each other and we also kill and eat animals, only after Noah's floods did God say we can now eat animals, before that earth was total heaven, now there is hell on earth man killing man. Truth hurts, most religions are the source of evil on earth, because they have been written by satan's influence. God would never advocate to kill another human being if that being did not believe in God, but you can see there are religious wars and fires raging on this planet.
M Gabrielle First of all Lord krishna was considered god by hinduism and worshiped as God but he wasn’t god. There is only ONE god that has been mentioned in every religious book whether it is jesus father in bible or Allah the creator in Quran or Ram/hari/Gobind in bhed samritis(formeless god mention in hinduism religious text books). So that means all religions talk about same thing and same path same destination in different manner according to their explanation so here religions are not the core doing evil on planet earth. But the EGO is to blame when a persons ego whether he is religious or not is hurt he or she act upon their consciousness how they act on ego. When a religious person or extremist starts to say my god or your god instead of understanding it as ONE universe THAT WHERE EVIL DOING STARTS IN THE NAME OF RELIGION AND RELIGION GETS THE BLAME. ITS LIKE YOUR DRINKING DRIVING AND MEET A CRASH AND YOU BLAME THE GPS LOL.
M Gabrielle There are a lot of loopholes in Christianity, and being the only Sikh down here that has incredibly advanced knowledge of both religions, I will gladly dissect some for you ;)
I personally believe despite being Sikh that if you believe in One God then being Panentheism is contradiction because once we say God resides in everything then that is more of a Hinduism Trilogy, we, unfortunately fall into the category of Polytheism / Panentheism
@LearningG The sad reality which I found out is that our religion is pantheism, however, there is belief of One God, but belief is he can be found everywhere.
Actually no. Bhai Gurdas in his vaaran shuns Advaita by writing that putting individual self as identical to brahm, one cannot experience the mellows of loving devotion.
@@simranmehtab3757 Ishavar ajanama bhi hay our oh hamesha janam lene vala bhi hay. Oh time ke andar bhi hay our time ke bahar bhi hay. Oh nirakrut bhi hay our Prakrit bhi hay.. oh nirakar bhi hay our sab akar usake hi hay.. oh nirgun bhi hay our sabhi gun uske hi hay. Ishavar Sarva Vapi hay.. oh burai me bhi hay our achhai me bhi hay.. jo use burai me dundata hay use oh narak deta hay. Our jo use achhai me dundata hay use vah Swarg deta hay... Use sirf vedon se hi Jana ja sakata hay.. (vidam bhavah).. Shanti Shanti Shanti hi...
The question is can a religion coexist peacefully with other religions with seemingly very different world-views. If yes then it's fine but if it can't and wants to dominate others then we have a very severe problem.
the Christian God isnt just in heaven, he is omnipresent meaning he is everywhere but christianity is pantheistic meaning the omnipresent God is everywhere but isn’t one/synonymous with everywhere
The one, Or any ‘name’ you wish to describe it, is not separate from its creation, it is present within creation itself, a type of monoism! A very interesting discussion sir
There are a couple of misconceptions in this video. In Christianity God is omnipresent and is contained within everything even though he has a separate essence from creation, that is why the holy spirit is said to dwell within every human. The only major monotheistic religion that says that god is not not present and is above the heavens ONLY is Islam.
@@Slapwithtruth he is everywhere and not limited by a place. All places exist in him. Nothing exist outside him. He is limited to sp called bacteria or animals or human, he is everywhere and everything in him. Btw, Your sky daddy is Limited to a place above 7th sky. 🤣🤣.
can't be because it is not the idea that Sikhism is a separate religion is quite new first a person kahn singh nabha in later part of 19th century wrote a book explaining why Sikhs are not hindu than in 1906 census british for the first time counted sikhs as a religious community separate from hindus in fact it is a panth (called so by gurus themselves) not a separate religion
Pramedh Indra panth and Kaum is something seperate when Guruji called themselves Sikhs and their followers Sikhs when they renounced the ways of the Hindus and Muslims they was seperate. Stop chatting crap. We know who we are and why we are that way!
@@simranmehtab3757 Renouncing the Hindu ways is much different from not accepting the root idea of "Ik Unkar" from Advaita. Advaita Vedanta is the key idea of Vedantic Philosophy . If a religious cult originating from this Geographical area of Indian subcontinent, is inspired from the key idea of Advaita , irrespective of whether they perceive themselves in union or separation from Hinduism, should atleast acknowledge this. Ik Unkar is not any new idea proposed by Sikh Gurus, it was age old, already well-accepted and discoursed idea in Vedantic Philosopy as Advaita and popular in inhabitants of Indian subcontinent.
@@simranmehtab3757 look it is none of my business what do you consider yourself what I emphasizing about was the philosophy which is same Sikhs believe in nirakar brahm (ek onkar/akaal purukh) this is same as OM (shabd brahm/naad brahm) and the philosophy is called "advait "
Even Buddhism has it's own separate identity as a Religion, but in many places it acknowledges it's key philosophy to be rooted in Vedanta . His holyness present Dalai Lama has also accepted it in many of his discourses. Irrespective of many difference in ideas, there can always be overlap in idea which should be acknowledged.
@sattttt exactly, I'm not any Imam or priest who has a job in a temple and charge money for doing religious activities, by talking to people I tell them what I found out and sometimes they tell me things which I don't know too,
I think you are confusing pantheism with panentheism. As a Christian I believe that God is both transcendent ( over and above all the cosmos) and immanent ( interpenetrating all the cosmos, which God created and continuously sustains). That is panentheism.
Sikhi is monotheistic slightly pantheistic. But there is a fine line. Between worshiping trees ...and sun ...A.K.J for over a decade a been promoting a brahmin watered down version on sikhi ... no one in the sikh community has no clear idea what it truly preaches another 50 years it will be gone .. look what goes on in in punjab.. hindi will be introduced ...
This guy is ok. He doesn't have a deep knowledge of Sikhi. A lot of times he just assumes stuff. But on the other hand, bhai Jugraj Singh Basics Of Sikh was a truely learned Gursikh. His knowledge of Sikhi was par excellence. Too bad he isn't among us anymore. I miss him.
@@cesiumion true say ...this guy doesnt really no much on a deep level ..he is doing more harm than good ...preaching in his own egoism..that he is learnt.... money making business... these people have no shame ...this is what happens when you put having a beared and turban before virtue and sewa and knowelge ..there is uncut sikhs out there who have more knowledge than him ...but get brushed to the side because they have no turban or beared...
@@malnoisd9140 Although I do give emphasis on having beard and turban, but that's not the last that defines Sikhi. Having Kesh and Dastar is the Hukam of the guru Sahib. Anyhow, observe this guys body language. He will act like a professor of a school trying give a lecture, rather than a Guru ka Sikh who's trying have a "discourse" with his fellow brethren. And about Pantheism, it is about as creation is the ultimate truth, not the creator. This is exactly the same thing what Dhadrianwala is preaching which is complete Manmat. So my overall observation of this guy brings me to the conclusion that he is less than acceptable as per Sikh Sidhant. If I were to give him a number rating, I would give him 1.3 out of 5.
Yatar Tatar Sarvatar. Here there in you in me everywhere. Yaha waha mujhme tujhme sabme. HAR-HAR MAHADEV. AHAM BRAHMASMI. AHAM SHIVAMI. This is the simple basis of the culture in India. Every religion that came out of this land is based on this fact. And we worship the so called Gods and there are over 35 crores of them. We are not worshiping THE GOD or to be exact PARBRAHAM or IK OMKAR. But we are worshiping Devas and Devis or in Western language the Deities. And in Sanatana Sanskriti you are free to create your own deity according to your goals in life. If you are looking for knowledge and wisdom you might worship Godess Sarsvati, if you want money then you can worship Godess Lakshmi, if you want power you have the option of worshiping Godess Durga or Shakti. And if you want a bit of everything then we also have a God for you Lord Ganesha. That's why in old times we had our own temples built inside our own houses. So that we could worship the god or godess of our own liking. But when we had to look for that supreme reality or the PARAMBRAHM or IK OMKAR we just close our eyes and meditate and look inside. We don't believe in the ultimate God whose sitting somewhere in these cosmos but in a reality that is omnipotent and we seek it instead of believing in it. That's why there is no fixed method or book that we Sanatanis follow. We just go by our own personal experience. This is why the followers of one true God couldn't understand this culture and they looked us through their glasses and unfortunately we too now look our culture through their glasses. May be time has come to change that.
I am everything. You are me and I am you and I permeate the whole of existence. I am all and in all. There is nothing except me. I am formless but yet I am with form. As "Formless" I am God not made manifest but with "Form" I am God made manifest. And yet still my form is not God. Thus one can say, "I am God but yet I am not God.
Brilliant explanation Sir. I am a Hindu from India. I am glad you used the word "Sikhi" and not "Sikhism". This "-ism" suffix again is a western framework and once we accept it, we are constrained. We must employ our own frameworks for understanding our dharma. When we use the word "religion" for our dharmic traditions, we again are falling into the trap of employing western frameworks for analysing our thought systems.
This artificial divide of their being a Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism or Jainism in India is false. We are intermingling streams. In terms of thinking about spiritual matters, we share a lot in common.
like victory vs victorism
@J0nesjr Weirdos invented Pentium Chip, Went to Mars, Invented Zero, Mathematics, Physics, Metalurgy, Navigation ( Navy came from Navik) , the first ports and shipbuilding were used by HINDU Indians.
India and Indians are now getting back to being a developed nation
Sattva
Only with the might of Allah can we succeed. If Allah had not used others to control others then the world would be in 100% utter chaos.
Amazing. This is exactly the truth, and I wanted to make a video about that myself. You did a good job, brother.
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These terms are coined by Western Philosophers. Many of us are trying to understand Sikhi through the lens of these terms which are not specifically designed for Sikh philosophy. Look into MONISM and Advaita Vendanta. It may help.
Pantheism and panentheism two seperare concepts .
Harpreet Singh lol If that was the case Guru sahib would of said look onto that but THEY DID NOT. They made a order only follow and bow down to GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI MAHARAJ. Stop adding man mat.
@@simranmehtab3757 if your happy with that then great. If you classify wider reading as manmat then great too. Enjoy.
Harpreet Singh all I’m saying is anything outside Gurus hukam is manmant do you get me.
actually he is identifying that the British ethnography of the Sikh culture is also flawed when we lost our guru parampara.
so it is important to hear him because i dont think hes there to just explicate the Katha without the context historically.
Last line is profound. Seva being an expression of realisation/understanding rather than an act done by an individual to help another. A less egotistical way of approaching seva. Amazing.
Loved the talk and also surprised by it. In my mind, the respect and admiration for Sikhism comes because of it's impact rather than its philosophy or theology. I mean that you can see the impact of the religion on the ground and in people's lives. Concepts like sewa, langar, keerat karna and chardi kala impact society and our own lives in very tangible ways.... So yes, this was a fun and intellectually stimulating video and it's interesting to see that there is speculation and analysis and interpretation of concepts going on, but to my mind the true value of sikhi is in it's impact and actions. By the way, no disrespect meant to anyone, guys. Just my thoughts after seeing a very philosophical, speculative kind of video on Sikhism.
Even though you have not taken the time to delve into Sikh philosophy, you are correct to an extent. This is because Sikhi does not reject this world as maya, falsehood, or illusion. It is quite real, and there is divinity in it, but you have to seek it and recognize it.
@@khoji5386 Is there a book that summarizes and gives an overview that you can recommend?? I have read a lot on the internet, but would like something concise that brings it all together
@@khoji5386 Great! I will check it out thanks
Much love and respect to Satpal Singh. Taking the redefined colonized "Sikhism" out of the box and exploring the Sikhi as explained and taught by our Guru Sahiban's as well as the mentioned bhagats. I totally agree with the way we have been taught to see "god" compared to Satguru teaching us how to see, experience and become one with Parmatma.
If this didn’t open you right up and free your way of thinking, this is not your path.
Every word resonated with me, it is lens right through murky water ❤️🙏
यदि हमारे मन में किसी भी इन्सान/जीव के प्रति नफरत है चाहे वो किसी भी रुप में हो तो हम जीवन के असली रुप से अनजान ही रहेंगे। प्रेम से ही हमारा सत्य से नाता जुड़ेगा।
inderjeetsingh Khat khatpura786 speak PUNJABI
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Ive thought and believed that the whole universe is part of the same thing/body/entity. As if we are cells in a living being. I know what he means by we are all one and the same with the whole universe. Since childhood i believed this.
Monotheism simply means the belief that there is only one god. It does not define what that one God is like! So you are misrepresenting a simple term to push your own thesis in a definitive language which leaves no room for discussion - only challenge.
As an example of monotheism - Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all monotheistic. But they differ in what their god is like. And even the concepts of heaven and hell differ amongst these three related religions to the extent that Jewish thinkers deny existence of Christian described heaven and hell.
@@theVirsa they deny it but not entirely differentiate it....neither do muslims.
exactly.. no monotheistic religion says that .. this is God and he is sitting in heaven
ਤੂੰ ਦਰੀਆਉ ਸਭ ਤੁਝ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥
Thoon Dhareeaao Sabh Thujh Hee Maahi ||
You are the River - all are within You.
ਤੁਝ ਬਿਨੁ ਦੂਜਾ ਕੋਈ ਨਾਹਿ ॥
Thujh Bin Dhoojaa Koee Naahi ||
Other than You, there is no one at all.
ਆਸਾ (ਮਃ ੪) (੫੩) ੨:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੩੬੫ ਪੰ. ੧੪
Raag Asa Guru Ram Das
Pantheistic this is.
If you yourself haven't studied Guru Granth Sahib, how are you so confidently saying so?
@@MoAmmarHasan but what islam says that ALLAH is above 7 universe. Sitting on chair and watching us. he is not anywhere except that he will never come to earth he uses angels for that
This is Quantum Physics in real action. Well said. Indeed Guru Sahib says on Ang 736……RAAG SOOHEE, FIFTH MEHL, FIRST HOUSE:
The actor stages the play, playing the many characters in different costumes; but when the play ends, he takes off the costumes, and then he is one, and only one. || 1 || How many forms and images appeared and disappeared? Where have they gone? Where did they come from? || 1 || Pause || Countless waves rise up from the water. Jewels and ornaments of many different forms are fashioned from gold. I have seen seeds of all kinds being planted - when the fruit ripens, the seeds appear in the same form as the original. || 2 || The one sky is reflected in thousands of water jugs, but when the jugs are broken, only the sky remains. Doubt comes from greed, emotional attachment and the corruption of Maya. Freed from doubt, one realizes the One Lord alone. || 3 || He is imperishable; He will never pass away. He does not come, and He does not go. The Perfect Guru has washed away the filth of ego. Says Nanak, I have obtained the supreme status. || 4 || 1 ||
Hmm bhagavad puran says ditto
*PANENTHEISM*
Ishavāsyam (omnipresence of God) is valid
Aikatmyam (connectedness of souls with everything) is also valid
Hence, *Aham Brahmasmi*
It's neither because Akal cannot be limited to creation either
So what purpose or benefits does Akal Purakh serves for humanity if it's outside creation too.
What exists is perceived as creation. Creation is limitless.
John Harper read gurbani idiot and yes we have similarities with Islam what’s so bad why you losing your shit for ?
John Harper lol says the Hindu extremist who bombed our people and burnt our holy hand written Granths from our Gurus shutup and use your long ass real name.
@@simranmehtab3757 thing is you are a muslim trying to show yourself a Sikh.
Someone finally said it.
Thank u Paji.
I am tired of getting mocked by Sikhs as I am a Hindu and they say we are polytheists and they are monotheists.
I tried to tell them that we the people Sanatan Dharm are neither monotheistic nor polytheistic.
We r panentheistic.
They are never ready to listen 😭
does not matter, both pagan religons
@@abdulrehman6791 Hinduism has as much (if not more) truth to it as Islam does.
@@highgroundgaming9161 explain how, hinduhism and these other pagan relgions contradict philosphy and metaphysics
@@abdulrehman6791 they don't contradict anything, if anything Abrahmic faiths contradict it. How can god be ONLY seperate from this universe, yet still be boundless at the same time?
@@highgroundgaming9161 if he becomes a part of this universe, he cannot be boundless because now he is restricted to the space time demensino, hes boundless by having no limitations, being apart of space time makes him have limits of time and space. Please understand, Thanks for engaging!
Love to hear it, love from a pagan
Sikhism believes in one all-encompassing God, so panentheism, not pantheism, polytheism, or monotheism.
Pagans were not religious
All Gods No Masters paganism still exists? I am shocked..
@@CapsFan117 that is pantheism.
This fella is way ahead of his time. Need more like you my man.
He is not .Check out jiddu Krishnamurti,Ramana maharishi,Nisargadatta maharaj,Robert Adams... These guys are way ahead of your so called time.
@@ikohi5517 I know who they are but thank you. I meant in the Sikh community
If you really know them why care about Sikhism?
@@ikohi5517 I never said I care exclusively for Sikhism. I care about everybody. I was simply paying the man a compliment.
@@ikohi5517 stop having jealousy towards sikhs man
You ALWAYS uproot me
WHAT A TRUE CONCEPT YOU PREACH WITH NO DOUBTS
LIVING WITH NANAK
CAN I ASK FOR MORE ...NO
THANKYOU
In Hinduism, we worship the different manifestations of BRAHMAN ( 'Divine One', also known as the Ultimate Reality . Hindus believe that Brahman is eternal and everywhere at once.). Bramha, Vishnu, Shiva are the different aspects of Bramhan.
अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि-[Aham Brahman Asmi]
"I am Brahman", or "I am Divine"
~Brihadaranyaka Upanishad
Great observation
Thank you for a wonderful presentation. I identify as a Pagan and Pantheist, and also someone who venerates the Celtic deities. I see many similarities between the Sikh concept of the Divine and that of Celtic Paganism. It is a wonderful thing that although our cultures are so far apart geographically, our concept of the Divine is so similar. Go raibh maith agat, mo chara.
I became a Pantheist Pagan from studying both Hinduism and Sikhism, I see Vaheguru as a force, not a being and everything is an Avatar of Ein Sof (the endless one) blessed be :)
*VEDAS TOO SAY THERE'S ONLY ONE OM OR Brahman ( SUPREME CAUSE ) WHO IS FORMLESS ,NIRGUNA AND OMNIPRESENT.VEDANTISTS DONT BELEIVE IN HEAVEN OR HELL. IN HINDUISM HEAVEN IS NOT THE GOAL BUT MOKSHA IS*
That's what the so called Hinduism and all eastern faiths say, study Vedanta, Advaita ...
lol Sikhism is just a repackaged Advaita Vedanta
Stormyz Vox And I would add that they’re both 100% irrational and unsubstantiated
@@malwar21 How & Why ?
geekhacks
Islam explains that we’re all connected through the fitrah to worship and submit to Allah alone. The sun and the moon are in 100% submission to Allah and so are some of us but we are NOT the sun or the moon, that is absurd and unnecessary!!!
geekhacks You ask why. Because it violates the rules of logic.
Universe is body, body is universe.
🤣🤣 nice one
Dear Satpal Singh, I very much enjoyed your discussion of Sikhism as panentheism. Very profound. We seem to be in the midst of a religious disillusionment in all our traditions. I do believe that panentheism may be the key to shifting away from this theistic impasse. With Great appreciation, Br. Alberto
Sikhism says God is beyond human comprehension, Sikhs are quantum agnostic.
no 1 lol amazing phrasing
Can you explain what that means if ok by you
And here's the Twist...in the end... All of Us prayers, service, tithing, and prayer of all people... Led to umanity progressing nearer to Source...
Panantheism sounds a lot like the theory of superposition in quantam physics.
Panantheism basically means "Karta Purakh". God is the creator and is part of the creation.
@UCP6_Of532qw3uMgYJ2C0zbg One of the names of God is "Ram" which means "rammya hoya". God not created but set up itself in the creation. What you're asking is the equivalent of asking, "What part of the sun is in the sun ray?"
@@UglyMan99 really cool thoughts.. and goes pretty well with Hinduism.
@@uselesshero.official how the hell does it go pretty well with hinduism
@@pentaxtp7527 In Hinduism, God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. That's why it goes well with Hinduism. Like how the sun is present in all the rays of sun.
These pracharaks are making everything so complicated because they are into yoga practices and Buddhist meditation....let's just read Guru Granth Sahib ji and know the truth ourselves.
harvinder singh little short sighted and restricted view ?
Well if you read Guru ji's writings then you will know that meditation is a key part of Sikhi
Complicated? just because they are teaching you the reality which tells you how closely Sikhi, budhism, jainism and sanatan dharma are ... it will break all political agendas and destroy hatred...
Ish no it’s not. This lecturer dosent use Sikh history or gurbani and it’s based on his opinions and what he thinks. Sikhi has a maryada and we can’t fall into manmat. We’re a unique Kaum and don’t fall into Santana dharma as bhai gurdas ji vaaran clearly states.
harvinder singh exactly paji
Even Christianity is also not Monotheistic. They believe in Father, son and Holy spirit.
Bhin Bhin Kaka True, Christians believe in the God-head or Trinity, but it is believed as a single concept. The Hebrew word “echad” is used to describe the Abrahamic God by which multiple components unify to form one unit. Similarly, God is seen in the same light.
As a result, they still believe in a “single” God and are therefore monotheistic.
@@amiitojsingh show me the trinity in the OT, god is one not three in one, that's paganism
VAN The Biblical Trinity is mentioned throughout the entire Bible.
@@amiitojsingh none of the prophets in the old testment preached or told their ppl that god is 3 in ono, even Jesus himself said the only true God who???????? THE FATHER.
Trinity is a total paganism with clear cut proof.
Isaiah 44:6
The Lord, Not Idols
6 “This is what the Lord says-
Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
apart from me there is no God.
John 17:3 New International Version (NIV)
3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
JESUS PREACHED MONOTHEISM NOT TRINITY
where in the newT Jesus said God is three in one clear not waffling around.
VAN when baptizing Christians, preachers refer back to Matthew 28:19, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”
They don’t say, “ I baptize you in the name of the Father.”
This verse shows that is it God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
I’m Genesis, when creating humans on the seventh day, God says, “Let US make man in OUR own image.”
This text would not make sense without the Trinity.
In 2 Corinthians 3:17, the Holy Spirit is also referenced to as God.
“Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.”
John 10:30 also perfect denies your claim that God is only the Father. In the NT, Jesus says, “I and the Father are one.”
I could provide a plethora more of verses if you wish, but I believe you should get the point.
Things sikhs and Hindus have in common:
1) panentheism.
2) vaishnav themes and stories of bhagwat puran and Mahabharata.
3) shaktism in dasam granth.
4) chaubis avtar from dasam granth.
5) medieval gursikhs and hindus considered guru nanak as vishnu avtar.
6) concept of ishwar, jeev, prakriti based on vishishtadvaita vedanta.
7) all names of ten gurus were hindu names. Like hari gobind, hari krishan, ramdas, guru angad.
8) 95% of names of god in gurubani are names of mahavishnu.
9) rehat maryada of khalsa is based on rishi-muni parampara with kshatriya duties.
1) Fair
2) The use of hindu, islamic, buddhist etc. texts are not to endorse them but to help the comman man use them to illustrate moral points and what is being talked about, vaishnav to entice warrior spirit not vaishnav practices.
3)many videos on this it is for bravery and power, metaphors context is crucial
4) again they dont endorse it it is used to explain
5) rejected.
6)sikhi interpretation of ishwar jeev are distinct, need to stop viewing through an hinduism lens and actually read open mindedly
7) cultural
8) they all mean the same again just to illustrate, do not believe in multifaced deities such as hinduism, you ignore that allah is also mentioned, Christian, buddhist beliefs are mentioned, has no meaning again just to illustrate ideas
9) makes no sense, some things overlap but war and fighting is a broad term it is not unique to kshatriya duties, many other religions have these traditions and context, they are all molded to their own theological framework you cannot claim creating the invention of armies and fighting.
there is no point in finding comonalities between religions they don't mean anything apart from the fact that you are undermining sikh beliefs by making their origin similar to hindu ones, respectfully if your religion is that great, then spread your own way instead of claiming traditions, beliefs from other religions
hinduism explores great philosphosy and is amazing in its own teachings respect your own religion and show its full colours rather than this.
Thank you bhai saab for explaining this concept...
If Sikhi was 'Casa De Papel'.... Satpal would be the professor
One God is here, now and everywhere.
it starts with, "1" that means one god but God is in each and every particle, enjoying HIS own creation.
God is one, but everywhere..
They figured out one God, but their knowledge was limited due to imperfections.
We are all connected by fate and Karma...spiritually and physically we have same atoms as universe, hence "1"
@Q Min Yes, that'a what i said.
We have different Karma and different fates.
But the spiritual energy is same.
i.e God.
who is 1, everywhere, everything
There is no you or I if we say it in respect to divine.
But there is you and I if we compare each other...hence different Karma and fates...
you are too diluting it.
What your saying is pantheism not panentheism which is a western philosophy towards the end of your speech you are confused sir
Did mentioned in qurbani, that there are MANY Brahman, Vishnu, Sivas.
Dissolution and recreation is a continuous process going on..
Some corners of the universe creation, taking place new galaxies forms, and other corner dissolution taking place..
That means there are chance for lives in other places..
Tru shabd creation is taking place, tru shabd dissolution is taking place
The Guru Granth Sahib opens with the basic concept of the One Universal, supreme Energy called by so many different names across humanity,.
Ik oankar - One absolute being (God)
Satnam - Eternal truth it's name
Karta Purkh - Creator
Nirbau - without fear
Nirvair - without hate/ enmity
Akal Murat - Deathless/timeless image
Ajuni - Beyound birth and death
Saibang - self existant
Gurprasad - known by the Guru's Grace.
This is repeated numerous times and at the start of every section as a constant reminder.
In the words of the tenth Sikh Guru - Guru Gobind Singh "recognise the human race as ONE"
Sounds more like pantheism than panentheism.
Guru Nanak's words sound a lot like monotheism; "The one Lord who created the world is the Lord of all.
Fortunate is their advent into the world, whose hearts remain attached to God's service.
O foolish man, why hast thou forgotten Him?
When thou adjustest thine account, my friend, thou shalt be deemed educated.
I.
The Primal Being is the Giver; He alone is true.
No account shall be due by the pious man who understandeth by means of these letters.
Of course he was only 7 years old when he said these words.
@vescent I wasn't trying to prove anything. I was just pointing it out for discussion and greater understanding (for myself).
@@Vampiracho lol shut up now you are telling me you are more wise than a guru and he wrote it wrong in gurbani okay okay smart guy
@@khonyeleaglefergumedov9175 Wrong, all wrong. I don't know a thing about this subject and was just asking questions.
@@Vampiracho nope not monotheism dharmic religions are way different then how abharmic religions view the world, stop with the labelling of dharmic religions that you don't even understand.
sikhism is talking the cosmology or creation in relation with NAAMS.. Naams are living words, sounds.. not limited Naam. 5 punch shabad..
The cosmology of sikhism is talking not limited to the present creation where we are located, it s everything beyond the present creation, going further. The gurus had scan the whole creation tru NAAM in deep meditation.
It is not a limited God, but unlimited..
Panentheism in sikhism tru Naams or living words..
God is still perfect always unchanging. Some thinks in panentheism, God is slowly becoming perfect.. this not in sikhism God is perfect always..
The immanence and transcendence of God in sikhism panentheism, is there no problem..
One creation can come and go, but other Creations are still there unaffected. A death is taking place in one house, and birth is taking place in another house..
God is the truth at the beginning, also the truth now, and shall be the truth at the end.
This means God is still powerfull under his Will, he can become ONE again, all other things disappears. We surrender to his WILL
I fully agree.
finally someone said it. It all comes from vedanta the arguments about god and it's existence. It has arguments for dvaita (polytheism /monotheism) Advaita (panentheism)
Why do Sikhs distance themselves so much from Hinduism/ Samatan Dharm? Karam, dharm , reincarnation, Omkar, belief in God in one God in multitude in forms, Gurus were Ved learners , were Pan Indian, defended and gave their lives for Hindustan. Yet today's Sikhs dont want in any way to have Hindu association , why?
There are several reasons,
Some are -:
1) Britishers
2) Lahore Singh Sabha (Tat Khalsa)
3) 1984
4) Emotional Sikhs who fear Hindus will take their identity.
5) Hate towards Hinduism due to past political tragedies....
6) Some Ugly attempts in the past by a few hindu groups to again merge Sikhism in Hinduism.
Hope Everything get sorted soon
ਸਤਨਾਮ ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਵਹੇਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ 🙏
ॐ शान्ति 🙏
@@trueperson6870 you forgot Khalistani political agenda.
Forgot forgot Congress.
Btw there isnt a single hindu who wants to change your identity. They want Sikhs to acknowledge that all 4 dharmic are from same root yet distinct religions. This way no political agenda can use it to divide us based on religion. That's all the RSS wants is to show all 4 Dharmic religions that they are from the same mother and father. So need to fight among brothers.
@@khoji5386 ok so I guess if I talk about similarities and our oness like our Guru Nanak ji did rather then you are Hindu and You are Sikh and all that rubbish it bothers people so much that they have to insult me. I see how inflammatory our minds have become.
@@khoji5386 first of all you need to get off your high horse and realize you are not the authority of Sikhism and the Vedic teachings of Bharat. Guru Nanak Dev jis writings and actions and history is the authority from what I am making my comments from. The Om if you understand it is Oneness and that oneness is present in most all Vedic religions including Sikhism . Ek Om (Ekem) derives or is the same as Om. The Ek was emphasizing the Om, the Hymm of the true divine written in the Vedas , written in the Granth sahib. The Vedas the Bharatiya writings predates the Granth Sahib. Guru Nanak Dev Ji was Bedi. He diligently studies the Vedas and went across Bharat spreading what his enlighten state made him realize that : there is no differentiation we are all one. Someone from a Bharatiya culture, a vedic culture , a Hindu culture Guru Nanak Devji. So yes if you can understand this then it is foolish to say Sikhism is not a Branch of Hinduism just as as Gurunanak Devji from a Hindu household branched out and taught his realization and created something of his own . If there was no Islam or Christianity there would still be Sikhism but if there was no Hinduism it's hard to contemplate from where Sikhism would arise? We are all capable of accepting divinity we are all the same. Sat Sri Akal.
@@khoji5386 as usual you try to to mock me instead of having an meaningful conversation. There is only so much explanation I can give you . Explanation of the Brahmandvad will go over your head. But enough of this petty nonsense with someone who has no openness to discuss but can do no better than attempt to demean. And after I go to the Gurdwara , yes I do have to go to my RSS meeting to prevent those who tear apart our culture with petty low thinking. Sat Sri Akal.
Beautifully explained, really v relative and meaningful
Buddhism: The world is an inter-connected web.
Oneness. One substance.
Budhism, sikhi, jainism all believe this. As this comes from Sanatan dharma. The vedas and upanishads teach this. Brahman is the universe. Gautum budha was a hindu king who started and spread budhism. Jainism and sikhism also sub sects of Sanatan dharma teachings. Hindu comes from the word Indu which comes from Sindhu, as greek and others had trouble pronouncing it. Hindu was a term used to describe the people that lived in the Sindhu region.
Ish no not true us Sikhs don’t fall in that category maharaj has said it themselves so don’t go spreading your bs.
@@simranmehtab3757 tell me one thing Sikhi Teaches which is not in Hinduism.
Ik Omkara:Given by Hindus
Idea of one God(Parmatma):Given by Upanishads
Idea of reincarnation: Given by Hindus(vedas,puranas)
Idea of God present everywhere and in different forms: Given by Hinduism(Vedas)
Idea of non Idol worship: Given By Arya and Brahmo samaj, and also Bhakti movement(Adi Shankaracharya).
The idea of Idol Worship(like you bow down to GGS and GUrus):Given by Hindus
The idea of Kalyug and Satyug: Given by Hindus(Ramayana and Puranas)
Ideo of Keeping Kesh(and not cutting it) and 5 reminders: Given by Vedas
All of these were given much before Sikhi came.I respect sikhism and I agree them o not be a part of sanatan but just saying..
@@AkashSingh-mc1wv Exactly! One understands Sikhi better when one goes deeper into Sanatana Dharma.
Love your teachings, it is pure Enlightenment
_“God is not merely one, in the way that a finite object might be merely singular or unique, but is oneness as such, the one act of being and unity by which any finite thing exists and by which all things exist together.”_ - David Bentley Hart
True Monotheism is Panentheism (Monistic Monotheism). The original concept of God is Monistic Monthotheism.
YES!
100% agree.
You nailed this preacher! Right on spot!
Hmm!! Panthesim have hidden duality the mind in panthesim is still looking at many seeing many gods as a single source but is Tawheed Or oneness the everything else is negeted and only the source is visible like that we are saved from seeing many and only see's one . We see one we hear one we only see our reflection but this state is a lonely place one cannot stay here forever so the self again decend into the multiverse and starts a new life of love towards oneself then everyone and everything in the universe become as he is. But this is not just mere talks its a reality words and acts should match the mind only than one can claim to have attain such a station just empty words mean nothing
How can wave be different form ocean?
@@gulzarsingh3681 every wave is different, there are many oceans
Hindus need to stop coming on our channels and spreading wrong info. Great talk paji
John Harper we all no ur names not John Harper, just drop the act bitchass
John Harper lol too embarrassed to use your real name. How about you bug off from a Sikh channel. If you want a debate drop me your email. Had countless of debates with Hindu nationalists like yourselves who don’t even understand that your faith is a culture you have no real rehat or maryada. If you listen to bhai satosl Singh you’d understand half of what he says is his opinions he hardly talks about Sikh history very little use of gurbani. It’s more his opinions and interpretations. If you think we’re a copy and paste you got a hell a lot of issues. You guys have aghori Hindus and Hindus who worship Donald trump. We are proud Sikhs now start your ram katha somewhere else.
punit p idiot. You don’t understand that ram isnt referring to your idol but it was a metaphor just like Allah. Because we believe in one creator. Stupid sad lame hater
punit p Ik oangkaar total different and meaning changes so shut it stop embarrassing yourself.
@@simranmehtab3757 And now you worship a book.
This changed my perspective Bhai sahib ji, but the way this discussion was worded was complicated and who the intended audience was must have had to have extensive knowledge in Sikh gurmat in order to understand your concept.
I had the puzzle pieces necessary to include this brilliant concept into gurmat, but many people simply do not know how to fit this concept in with Sikh theology.
God it s everywhere in his knowledge.
God is separate from creation.
He is the creator not creation.
Great job virji,the way you explain that is extraordinary and effective, keep it up and have a great day.
Vaheguru
Khalsa ji has done the true khoj, thank you paji, gurbarakaal
sikhism is monotheism on surface, panentheism in the middle , and MONISM at the core
monism means that one reality only exists
There is a slight difference in pantheism and Ik Onkar in pantheism everything is god here the mind of duality is still functioning but in Singularity or ik onkar there is no everything there is only 'I' , one see the reflection himself in everything, there is a duality in pantheism the lover is still a wanderer still looking for a beloved , but when the self realize that he is the mud of the cup , the cup , the jug the wine and the drunk one reaches the goal
We r Sikh only worship book like idols
There is no 'worship' of book like your idols.
We respect the knowledge.
If knowledge is even on a paper, we respect it.
Without the knowledge we don't even care about it
Panentheism is a form of monotheism. Absolutizing terms rather than recognizing their inherent ambiguity and need for contextual definition only creates confusion in the long run. In terms of regular usage of the term monotheism, to say Sikhism isn't monotheistic is to say it is either polytheistic or atheistic. Even advaita can be understood as a kind of radical monotheism.
This is the philosophy of Advaita Vedant
Brahma satya jagat mithya
Hinduism also believe in one god through different avtaars. Why is it difficult to understand ?
Its not difficult to understand - people bring politics into religion
jake snake
Minorities generally do that due to low self esteem.
Exactly, God who is unseen, can be represented by any shape or form or even as deities, worshiping any deities as God is just as good as worshipping God in one's mind to a formless entity. People who do not understand the truth and are not willing to study other religions are the ones who accuse Hindus of worshipping stone idols, I worship my cats and dogs as they God lives in them, and he does, scientifically it can be proven that God the creator created everything from himself and from his one single point source, the big bang is when God used his mighty energy to create each and every particle or atom that formed universe and all things inside it, thus you and me and them are all part of that one creator, God did not go to some builders merchant to buy vast amounts of sand and cement to fashion universe, all of the universe is from God so he is within and outside it, beyond an average persons understanding, but this agrees with quantum mechanics. Let us face it, if matter was to be created from an unseen substance, it must start somewhere where very minute like million millionths of an atom, such that these sub atomic particles starts to clump together forming atoms which in turn starts to form solid matter, and all mighty explosions and reactions occur creating galaxies, and planets and stars, Guru Nanak had this vision over 550 years ago. Arjuna had this vision over 5000 years ago, Bhagavad gita predates Guru Nanak, but Guru Nanak confirmed the truth.
M Gabrielle
Awesome explanation.
We had many nameless gurus like Guru Nanak ji who had this gyaan. The atom when vibrating at a particular frequency gives it’s a form. The core of any being or non being is same vibrating at a different frequency.
Avataars, many stories, stones are symbolic in nature for easy comprehension. It helps us to ignite our devotion and focus the love on the creator.
Different dimensions have diff energies and the focus on each gives a different output in ones life.
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@@1800options Politics affects every religion - tends to be a minority who distort it but they speak the loudest so everyone assumes the whole religion is like that
God is both immanent within and transcendental to the Universe.
The Universe is not God, it is an energetic modality that has it's source within God.
God is the fundamental substrate of the Universe and then some.
Pantheism is the belief that God and the Universe are one and the same, and that neither of them transcend the other. Panentheism is the belief that God is greater than the Universe but also that God's Being includes and interpenetrates the Universe. Traditional Christian theology, although often categorized as Monotheistic, has always taught that God is simultaneously transcendent beyond all things as well as immanent within all good things (never within things, spirits or human actions that are evil). For Christians, God can use evil to produce good, but God is never willing the evil choice or thing to happen. God's will is always and only for what is good, but we are free to choose the good or to reject it. For the vast majority of Christian branches of faith, we believe in free moral agency.
JIS TU RAAKHE TIS KAUN MAARE , SAB TUDH HI ANDAR SAGAL SANSARE. Raag Bhairo M:5 SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI MAHARAJ🙏.
Veer ji very good explanation
Realize the Krishna consciousness within
It's more like philosophy of Hinduism.
Sikhism is part of the Hindu Dharma, the Snatana Dharma. In Hinduism we believe every molecule particle has god in it the supreme power. Don’t know just because Guru Nanak disnounced caste system which was the cultural thing with Hindus, doesn’t mean he denounced the whole Vedas and Geeta and Upanishad. He was questioning the status quo of that time by the powerful not the Vedanta itself. He was a child of Vedas. The only thing he could teach is vedas.
Parkash JavaScript Badal
Citation please when Guru Nanak ji says Vedas are limited.
Or is this the similar pakistani funded propaganda for divisive politics
Paul Kumar ved puraan quran anek kahai Mat ek Na janyo-ggs ( we rejectedvthe vedas).
Simran Mehtab
Then how come sikhain teaches exactly same mysticism as any other Dharmic religion.
Karma
Reincarnation
Moksha
Sewa
Meditation Simran
Why does Abhramic religion Islam and Christianity don’t teach all what dharma teaches us.
You never answer my questions just running away from the truth.
@Parkash JavaScript Badal are you a different human from your parents? Ofcourse you are a different entity. But your DNA and blood comes from your parents. Sikhism started 500-600 years ago and derives all of it from Sanatan dharma. Ik Onkar. Dharm. Karma. Seva. All these philosophies come from Vedas and upanishads and the sanskrit words. Accept our Sikhi origin and be proud. We are distinct from Sanatan Dharmic and Buddhists and jainism but we come from same root.
Ish
Good one they need to learn it.
Are there other Sikh groups that agree or is this mostly just Satpal Singh?
He is right
@LearningG because his arguments are backed up from Gurbani
Best explanation for Sikhism
Well in Sikhism or Veda it is called BRAHM , BRAHM in Sanskrit JATHA
SARVTA BHARMTI TASA NAMH BRAHMAN “ means that is vibrating in everything including conscious or matter , SAB GOBIND HEI SAB GOBIND HEI SAB GOBIND HEI GOBIND BIN NHE KOI , JAL TARANG OR PEND BUDBUDA JAL SE BIN NA HOI “means
Everything is GOD everything is God just like water it’s wave and and main body of water on lower level is one , but in Abraham religion God is an physicality a body , a personal God hidden in the sky , but in Sikhism or Hinduism it is an impersonal GOD , VEDA SAYS “ OM ISHAVAYAMIDIM SARVAM YATKINCHA JAGTAM JAGAT “ means all the universe pervaded by GOD whatever it physically or non physically
Monotheism doesn’t have to mean God is in the heavens. That is a very literal perception of the idea of God, and I agree that is what most Christians, Muslims, etc. functionally worship; however, monotheism can be mystical too, as seen in Arya Samaj, Sufism, etc. At a certain point, we are really just playing semantic games.
Gita also is panentheism. We are inside and through the all pervading reality.
Monotheism in its true sense does not mean God is separate from his creation through physical essence . God is not transcendent from creation neither is he within his creation both would limit him. God is everywhere but nowhere nothing contains him. There no is fixed location for him when we say he is in the heavens it does not mean through location. He is closer to us then the jugular vein but not through location or physicality or location. Panentheism would limit God as that would mean he is within his creation. God is inconceivable and not comprehended by the human mind the intellect cannot grasp him. It would help if you would ask before trying to translate monotheism to your own understanding of it.
Interesting concept but there isn't any one word that can describe Sikhism is about. However what is being described here is how a very small part of the universe works
I like that he's trying to explain difficult concepts even though some explanations are not perfect yet. With time explanations should get better but some one should try and continue doing so. What he's talking about in this video, sounded to me like being in a quantum world.
If we lived in a quantum world, where quantum laws applied and people and object behaved like tiny atoms and particles, there is a sense in which things don't like to be tied down to just one location or to follow just one path. It would seem almost as if things were in more than 1 place at a time. And what you do in 1 place can have an immediate effect somewhere else, even if no one is there.
Id like to know the difference between Advaita Vedanta and Sikhism. Because the more i read on Sikhism it sounds like a version Hindu concept of Advaita Vedanta. Brahman and atman.
Perhaps the gurus were inspired by the teachings of Adi Shankaracharya directly or indirectly.
@@incubusk8r I know very little about Advaita, so cannot comment on that. If you have any specific points that you might want to discuss with respect to Sikhism, then I may be able to help you. As far as I understand advait means no-two which is similar to saying "Aham Brahmasmi" (I'm absolute). In Sikhism, we believe God is one and prevails in everything, as symbolized by Ik Onkar (one all-pervading spirit). Our Baani teaches us that Lord has different names and that's okay.
"koee bolai raam raam koee khudhaae ||
Some call the Lord 'Ram, Ram', and some 'Khuda'.
koee saevai guseeaa koee alaahi ||1||
Some serve Him as 'Gusain', others as 'Allah'.
kaaran karan kareem ||
He is the Cause of causes, and Generous.
@@rupindersingh7759 yep that all pervading spirit is called brahman.
@My choice Oh really thats interesting .What makes you believe that Nanak was quantum physicists.
R3DF4NG not really Brahman manipulated and changed things to suit their greed etc that’s why they put the 4 castes. Please read sakhis of Guru Nanak dev ji maharaj and Brahmins Guru sahib met when spreading sikhi.
There's a confusion here thinking that monotheism is mutually exclusive with panentheism. Look to the panentheists in say the Franciscan theology of Roman Catholics. As a student/ follower of a non dual Dharma you shouldn't really be getting stuck down in thinking in this way.
Jesus is part
Of God and part of this world. Still Christianity is monotheistic.
In contex of 550how my grandson gave me a lesson iput a garland to babaji photo and he said God is dead isaid no he saidthen he said then remove it it has meaning first me say sarbad da bhala
Simply briliant
Beautifully explained. This happened to me i woke up in the morning a lady knocked on the door she was preaching bible and Christianity. She asked me what we believe in as sikh. I told he we believe in one god that jesus called father to. I said to her that jesus also preached in bible he is inside us. But she was admant saying to me no god is separated somewhere in clouds he cannot be here at the same time. So i gave up and agreed to her lol. Monotheism and panentheism are well explained here i will remember next if i see her.
I too discuss long debates about God with a Jehovah's witness, again good thing is many people say that God is formless and unseen, Lord Krishna was God he was not unseen was he, he came to earth as a human, so the Bible clearly confirms that God made man in his image to look like Him, how the hell do you want to interpret this? its clear God can come to earth in any form, otherwise he cannot be God. So its good because now we know how God looks like a human or humanoid, somewhere we don't know where, but he can have a son too, so that fits perfect with the Bible that Lord Jesus was indeed son of lord Krishna.
In the beginning, the Bible says that God created man in his image and other creatures, he made man in charge of all creatures, but clearly says not for food because he said in Bible that God made grass and leafy things for animals to eat, and he made Grain and fruits and vegetable s for man to eat, that was when once the earth had heaven on it, until some rascal called Adam sinned and eat a forbidden fruit, so after that animals now eat each other and we also kill and eat animals, only after Noah's floods did God say we can now eat animals, before that earth was total heaven, now there is hell on earth man killing man.
Truth hurts, most religions are the source of evil on earth, because they have been written by satan's influence. God would never advocate to kill another human being if that being did not believe in God, but you can see there are religious wars and fires raging on this planet.
M Gabrielle
First of all Lord krishna was considered god by hinduism and worshiped as God but he wasn’t god. There is only ONE god that has been mentioned in every religious book whether it is jesus father in bible or Allah the creator in Quran or Ram/hari/Gobind in bhed samritis(formeless god mention in hinduism religious text books).
So that means all religions talk about same thing and same path same destination in different manner according to their explanation so here religions are not the core doing evil on planet earth. But the EGO is to blame when a persons ego whether he is religious or not is hurt he or she act upon their consciousness how they act on ego. When a religious person or extremist starts to say my god or your god instead of understanding it as ONE universe THAT WHERE EVIL DOING STARTS IN THE NAME OF RELIGION AND RELIGION GETS THE BLAME.
ITS LIKE YOUR DRINKING DRIVING AND MEET A CRASH AND YOU BLAME THE GPS LOL.
M Gabrielle There are a lot of loopholes in Christianity, and being the only Sikh down here that has incredibly advanced knowledge of both religions, I will gladly dissect some for you ;)
I personally believe despite being Sikh that if you believe in One God then being Panentheism is contradiction because once we say God resides in everything then that is more of a Hinduism Trilogy, we, unfortunately fall into the category of Polytheism / Panentheism
@Culture I know.
@LearningG The sad reality which I found out is that our religion is pantheism, however, there is belief of One God, but belief is he can be found everywhere.
@LearningG Exactly that is what I was thinking, sometimes I believe we gone astray. What religion are you
@LearningG But what religion are you currently
@LearningG just its interesting
Sikhism is philosophically identical to Advaita Vedanta. They both share the same concept of none duality, all is one.
R251400
I like your thought process.
Actually no. Bhai Gurdas in his vaaran shuns Advaita by writing that putting individual self as identical to brahm, one cannot experience the mellows of loving devotion.
@@apuravmahajan283 so how does that mean he rejected Advaita??? The Advaitan, Ramakrishna says "I want taste suger, not be suger"
@@apuravmahajan283 which vaaran?
@@R251400 Where he said so? If he said, he would have meant something else. Coz advaita's main mantras are :
Aham Brahmasmi
Tat tvam ASI.
Vedas mantra ..1 Om Satya divitiye naasti.. in guru bani 1 Om kar sat Nam..
Tushar Borke Ik oangkaar
@@simranmehtab3757
Ishavar ajanama bhi hay our oh hamesha janam lene vala bhi hay. Oh time ke andar bhi hay our time ke bahar bhi hay. Oh nirakrut bhi hay our Prakrit bhi hay.. oh nirakar bhi hay our sab akar usake hi hay.. oh nirgun bhi hay our sabhi gun uske hi hay. Ishavar Sarva Vapi hay.. oh burai me bhi hay our achhai me bhi hay.. jo use burai me dundata hay use oh narak deta hay. Our jo use achhai me dundata hay use vah Swarg deta hay... Use sirf vedon se hi Jana ja sakata hay.. (vidam bhavah).. Shanti Shanti Shanti hi...
It's Onkar. Not omkar.
@@gulzarsingh3681
Onkar ka shabdik Matalan batao. Konse bhasaha ka hay. Kaha se Liya Gaya hay
@@tusharborke8488 Onkar aad main janeya. Its from Aad.
GOod explanation
The question is can a religion coexist peacefully with other religions with seemingly very different world-views. If yes then it's fine but if it can't and wants to dominate others then we have a very severe problem.
Western abrahamic religions are narrow
While dharma is wide beyond anything
Very well explained
the Christian God isnt just in heaven, he is omnipresent meaning he is everywhere but christianity is pantheistic meaning the omnipresent God is everywhere but isn’t one/synonymous with everywhere
The one, Or any ‘name’ you wish to describe it, is not separate from its creation, it is present within creation itself, a type of monoism! A very interesting discussion sir
Bcz of pantheism that's why hindu worship each and everything ..so can call it million hindu god
There are a couple of misconceptions in this video. In Christianity God is omnipresent and is contained within everything even though he has a separate essence from creation, that is why the holy spirit is said to dwell within every human. The only major monotheistic religion that says that god is not not present and is above the heavens ONLY is Islam.
How can God be singular if there is nothing else than him / her?
There is a creator and then there is creation ... Sikhism cannot be considered monotheistic based on that
God can't be sky Daddy. He is infinite and omnipresent.
@@castelessaastik4655 it's better to be in the sky than think he's in your asshole as a bacteria . Also Sikhism is not monotheistic .
@@Slapwithtruth he is everywhere and not limited by a place. All places exist in him. Nothing exist outside him. He is limited to sp called bacteria or animals or human, he is everywhere and everything in him.
Btw, Your sky daddy is Limited to a place above 7th sky. 🤣🤣.
How is it then different from idea of Advaita ?
can't be because it is not the idea that Sikhism is a separate religion is quite new first a person kahn singh nabha in later part of 19th century wrote a book explaining why Sikhs are not hindu than in 1906 census british for the first time counted sikhs as a religious community separate from hindus in fact it is a panth (called so by gurus themselves) not a separate religion
Pramedh Indra panth and Kaum is something seperate when Guruji called themselves Sikhs and their followers Sikhs when they renounced the ways of the Hindus and Muslims they was seperate. Stop chatting crap. We know who we are and why we are that way!
@@simranmehtab3757 Renouncing the Hindu ways is much different from not accepting the root idea of "Ik Unkar" from Advaita. Advaita Vedanta is the key idea of Vedantic Philosophy .
If a religious cult originating from this Geographical area of Indian subcontinent, is inspired from the key idea of Advaita , irrespective of whether they perceive themselves in union or separation from Hinduism, should atleast acknowledge this.
Ik Unkar is not any new idea proposed by Sikh Gurus, it was age old, already well-accepted and discoursed idea in Vedantic Philosopy as Advaita and popular in inhabitants of Indian subcontinent.
@@simranmehtab3757 look it is none of my business what do you consider yourself what I emphasizing about was the philosophy which is same Sikhs believe in nirakar brahm (ek onkar/akaal purukh) this is same as OM (shabd brahm/naad brahm) and the philosophy is called "advait "
Even Buddhism has it's own separate identity as a Religion, but in many places it acknowledges it's key philosophy to be rooted in Vedanta . His holyness present Dalai Lama has also accepted it in many of his discourses.
Irrespective of many difference in ideas, there can always be overlap in idea which should be acknowledged.
Bro Sikhi is about Gurmat not manmat. Stick to Guru Granth Sahib not your own opinion on what Sikhism should be.
NKJ Exposed exactly!!!
You need to clear your mind brother
@sattttt exactly, I'm not any Imam or priest who has a job in a temple and charge money for doing religious activities, by talking to people I tell them what I found out and sometimes they tell me things which I don't know too,
I think you are confusing pantheism with panentheism. As a Christian I believe that God is both transcendent ( over and above all the cosmos) and immanent ( interpenetrating all the cosmos, which God created and continuously sustains). That is panentheism.
Can you explain Trinity in your words ?
Sikhi is monotheistic slightly pantheistic. But there is a fine line. Between worshiping trees ...and sun ...A.K.J for over a decade a been promoting a brahmin watered down version on sikhi ... no one in the sikh community has no clear idea what it truly preaches another 50 years it will be gone .. look what goes on in in punjab.. hindi will be introduced ...
This guy is ok. He doesn't have a deep knowledge of Sikhi. A lot of times he just assumes stuff. But on the other hand, bhai Jugraj Singh Basics Of Sikh was a truely learned Gursikh. His knowledge of Sikhi was par excellence. Too bad he isn't among us anymore. I miss him.
@@cesiumion true say ...this guy doesnt really no much on a deep level ..he is doing more harm than good ...preaching in his own egoism..that he is learnt.... money making business... these people have no shame ...this is what happens when you put having a beared and turban before virtue and sewa and knowelge ..there is uncut sikhs out there who have more knowledge than him ...but get brushed to the side because they have no turban or beared...
@@malnoisd9140 what the fuck ? Kuch vi ?
@@malnoisd9140 Although I do give emphasis on having beard and turban, but that's not the last that defines Sikhi. Having Kesh and Dastar is the Hukam of the guru Sahib. Anyhow, observe this guys body language. He will act like a professor of a school trying give a lecture, rather than a Guru ka Sikh who's trying have a "discourse" with his fellow brethren. And about Pantheism, it is about as creation is the ultimate truth, not the creator. This is exactly the same thing what Dhadrianwala is preaching which is complete Manmat. So my overall observation of this guy brings me to the conclusion that he is less than acceptable as per Sikh Sidhant. If I were to give him a number rating, I would give him 1.3 out of 5.
@@prabhnoorsingh2964 ???
You can be both monotheistic and Panentheistic. Like Kabbalah or Sufi They are not contradictory!
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No, you can not. The only way you can is if you accept logical contradictions.
@@malwar21
Things that are of a spiritual nature are beyond reason and logic.
@LearningG Logic and reason is used only to operate in the physical world.
Yatar Tatar Sarvatar. Here there in you in me everywhere. Yaha waha mujhme tujhme sabme. HAR-HAR MAHADEV. AHAM BRAHMASMI. AHAM SHIVAMI. This is the simple basis of the culture in India. Every religion that came out of this land is based on this fact. And we worship the so called Gods and there are over 35 crores of them. We are not worshiping THE GOD or to be exact PARBRAHAM or IK OMKAR. But we are worshiping Devas and Devis or in Western language the Deities. And in Sanatana Sanskriti you are free to create your own deity according to your goals in life. If you are looking for knowledge and wisdom you might worship Godess Sarsvati, if you want money then you can worship Godess Lakshmi, if you want power you have the option of worshiping Godess Durga or Shakti. And if you want a bit of everything then we also have a God for you Lord Ganesha. That's why in old times we had our own temples built inside our own houses. So that we could worship the god or godess of our own liking. But when we had to look for that supreme reality or the PARAMBRAHM or IK OMKAR we just close our eyes and meditate and look inside. We don't believe in the ultimate God whose sitting somewhere in these cosmos but in a reality that is omnipotent and we seek it instead of believing in it. That's why there is no fixed method or book that we Sanatanis follow. We just go by our own personal experience. This is why the followers of one true God couldn't understand this culture and they looked us through their glasses and unfortunately we too now look our culture through their glasses. May be time has come to change that.
Pantheistic belief is everything thing in universe is God. This belief is almost same as polytheism.
I am everything.
You are me and I am you and I permeate the whole of existence.
I am all and in all.
There is nothing except me.
I am formless but yet I am with form.
As "Formless" I am God not made manifest but with "Form" I am God made manifest.
And yet still my form is not God.
Thus one can say, "I am God but yet I am not God.
@@MichaelMckerrell these are your thoughts or any type of religious verses?
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These are not my thoughts or any words from a book, it is the truth.
@LearningG Anything of a spiritual nature will not make any sense at all because the senses belong to the physical world.
@LearningG It is not I who speaks but God.
Universe exists in conciousness