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Thanks for doing this, but I think using the verb "debate" here is a bit of a stretch. Considered getting your cohost to lay off the cannabis edibles before recording? Why not try out a kind of dialogue, Socratic method, dialectic, something along those lines? It's much harder to write, but it's the difference between 30K subscribers and 300K. At some point this approach is not novel enough and you will reach a hard cap in terms of your ability to influence the world for good.
To follow up on this, I hadn't yet gotten to the bit where the other bloke starts talking, presuming you'd talk the entire time rather than going raspy-voiced for long periods. Hmm. I'd say you just need to work them together a bit more in that case, like a conversation rather than a lecture. Good luck, and thanks!
Cosmic panpsychism and monism is the principle of Hindu Vedanta philosophical texts Upanishads and Brahma Sutra. God is not separate in Awaita Vedanta, which is ancient Hindu philosophy. Spinoza might have read the translation of these texts. Spinoza's Ethics reads almost like a Vedantic text.
Exactly thee same here, I didn't even know the meaning, all I knew is that Pantheism is a doctrine, so I did a google search and I found out myself:), I'm a Pantheist, I just found out that:), but I do have deeper and more useful purposeful explanations and just looking for someone who is a good writer as I'm not one of those:(
here’s another quote i love “Hey. Your matter recalls cosmic explosions and you tasted oblivion before you learned your own name. Fear nothing.” -cryptonature
@@mortenrobinson5421 Yes and no. I first came to the idea via Ayahuasca, so that would be a belief. Since then, it has become much less belief and much more , as you put it, a philosophical conclusion. Thanks for the comment!
@@xspice1891 I do not recommend doing it without an experienced guide there in person - at least not at first. Do your research - there are a lot of people who are just in it for the money. The first time I did it, it was at New Life Ayahuasca in Costa Rica. I'm sure there are lots of good outfits out there, but that one is very good. There are analogs to true Ayahuasca. In my experience, Syrian Rue/Acacia Confusa works every bit as well as the 'real' stuff. Research dr;ug interactions. There can be deadly consequences if you combine Aya with certain drugs (such as SSRIs).
An Atheist comes into the universe, a stranger in a hostile place, and feels they are seperate from it. A Pantheist comes out of the universe, having arrived home, and feels they are a part of it.
Yes, I would further that a pantheist acknowledges the potential and wonder of the universe. And in fact a thing worthy of celebration and awe, a spiritual totality within nature . An atheist feels put upon to a large degree by a hostile universe, somewhat trapped by thoughts of division rather than connection , and often nihilistic compulsions.
It is the 'Ego' that makes you feel you are your own self and separated from the ultimate consciousness. But if you surpassed the Ego you will understand you are part of thre whole which cannot be denied even in law of nature.
@@malikc6 acting as if their religious lifestyle is objective and correct...LOL! We're slowly decomposing multicelluar organisms with billions of other microorganisms on us...we're intellectual evolved creatures on top of the food chain but we forget that we're made out of carbon, star dust, etc. We come from the universe itself which is why I consider The universe an entity and God itself. Not a human depicted entity. Ego.
I understood pantheism faster than I tried to do these last weeks. You made my dissertation easier now that I understood the theory. Thank you so much guys !
We are literally in the universe. Our life, our energy, everything we are and everything we have and will ever do makes up the universe. The universe made us. We are all the fabric of the universe. How can that not be God?
The difference is, we don't believe in man-made, magical deities that are in most religions. We just see the universe, reality & nature as "God." We humans see *_us_* as "Gods" (as in, "We are God.")
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence 12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker. 13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. 14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, 15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: 16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways. 17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
Pantheism fits well with another belief of mine, the Akashic Records. I thought I was a agnostic for a long time but deep inside myself I knew there was something, something grand, almost karma like, with positive and negative actions and thoughts. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction so to say.
Same thoughts! It goes so well with Buddhism as the buddha nature is within all of us and the buddhahood state of mind explains as the one who exists in every single atom of the universe simultaneously! So, it tallies with the pantheistic approach also while keeping it secular too! 🥴✌🏻🧬
Pantheism differs from atheism is that an atheist sees it self apart from the ''all'' and pantheist see him self as part off the ''all'' One big organism
Disagree. You can deny the existence of a theistic god and be a philosophical pantheist at the same time. In fact, I’d argue that many pantheists are secular people who don’t follow religious rituals, despite having an interest in spirituality.
@@typicallymoody I'm not sure I understand your point. I would think denying the existence of a theistic god, in itself is part of Pantheism. In the understanding of the word anyway. I will always, in my personal consciousness refer to a Unity, as the inherent understanding of the word God personifies something we could never comprehend. While there are no specific religious rituals relating to Pantheism, there are avenues some take to bring deeper awareness of the Universe. But that can range from the study of science, different philosophies or religions, meditation, or even drug use. Spirituality itself can simply be seen as the energy that flows through us all or as far as a conscious design that lays out the path we walk.
The atheist doesn't see himself apart from the "all". The conflict just lies in philosophy of mind. Pantheistic views which adopt physicalism or panpsychism (panpsychism accepts physical world as fundamental) are just euphemisms for atheism while Idealistic pantheism differs from atheism.
I had a dmt trip with the creator of the universe.. I didn't realise she was until half way through the trip I turned to her and said are u god ? And she laughed and said no this is god while pointing at the universe.. amazing journey.. she also told me we are energy and once made we can't die in her world... this trip brought me here looking for answers. 🤣
@@natmcd4043 Not just like that, is that. My whole basis in it stems from Einstein and his views on energy and monism, but also had my fair share of trips. Welcome to the club 🎉. Happy Journeys Nat. Be happy to talk some pantheism if you ever have the need.
I’m a pantheist because it just makes the most logical and intuitive sense to me when observing and experiencing the natural world. I don’t actually wish to be one, it’s just slightly less depressing than atheism, but I still struggle not to give into nihilism.
I feel like I'm spamming here cos I commented a similar thing to another person, but I feel it's important to pass on the suggestion to read Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramhansa Yogananda, and Be Here Now by Ram Dass. They are two books that helped me figure things out...plus other 'tools' at times! 😄
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence 12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker. 13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. 14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, 15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: 16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways. 17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
As a (scientific) pantheist, thank you for this respectful take. When one thinks about God as separate from the creation, it is impossible to fully appreciate the vast and completeness of the creation. If it is two separate things, than God must be far greater (which is still possible with pantheism), and the creation insignificant in comparison. If God is separate, than God is limited, smaller than what could be. But when it is realized that the creation is equal to and combined, it offers an aspect that each is great. And, as individuals, our greatest praise must be to fully appreciate and try to understand the creation as a whole. And our greatest worship, is to participate as part of the creation. Through works that improve (such as thought, exploration, art) and through caring for the creation and it's parts (such as eachother)
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence 12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker. 13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. 14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, 15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: 16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways. 17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
I was an Atheist most of my life, then Agnostic and now a Pantheist. Although the similarities between Atheism & Pantheism are large, I'd argue that the same amount of similarities can be found when comparing Pantheism to any other religious or spiritual belief. And that switching from "God doesn't exist" to "God is everything" is a HUGE psychological leap. As an Atheist, I refused the idea of a spirit, divinity or anything "magical". It could all be explained through science & evolution eventually. Now as a Pantheist I believe there's an almost infinite amount of spirits, divinity is all around me & magical is the only word I could use to describe a conscious Universe and my small part in it. So although the word God is the only thing that separates Atheism & Pantheism linguistically, I believe that one word or belief is what puts Atheism & Pantheism at opposing ends of the spectrum. Atheism being at the bottom with no spiritual beliefs at all & Pantheism at the very top encompassing all spiritual beliefs. I'd like to add and debate that Pantheism is the only decentralized belief. Thanks for video guys! Absolutely brilliant!
@@MrsBridgette2012 Pantheism do not believe in spirit. Maybe Wicca. It is the feeling of love, devotion, and a sense of attachment. It's almost like that but towards the planet. The focus on magic is one of the biggest differences between wicca and paganism.
@A Wanderer some people would call this entertainment “food for thought” or “intellectual stimulation”. Adopt a calmer approach and be one with yourself and accept things how they are. You will never change that atheism exists. Venting your frustrations like this is not an act of acceptance but rather an act of rejection. Your beliefs are valid. Stand strong in your beliefs like a flower among weeds. Do not hate the weeds for being weeds. They are simply distractions
I wouldn't say I adopted the belief, but rather I self-discovered it using my own feelings. I looked around for a word that suited my belief and came across Animism, but now I feel like Pantheism is much closer to my understanding of the universe than Animism.
I’m a pantheist. When you talked about the “hive mind” (11:15), you discounted the way our minds link: we talk to each other. Our thoughts are communicated between each other’s minds through our normal communications channels. A group of people acts very differently than an individual or a simple collection of non-communicating individuals. No magic necessary for this. We have free will. And that will is influenced by everything around us (including other people).
If free will is influenceable then it isn't free will. Just a cog in the machine of long time cause and effect. Every thought is preceded by prior thoughts, actions, environmental factors etc. Free will is an illusion.
We all have desires thoughts ideas...well and good. Nobody can deny that. 2. We are guided by these feelings. 3. If we are conscious and compare different course of actions rationally having due regard to the universal causal links of events , then we are more likely to sift through the competing desires/ideas in order to reach the one among them, which is self-willed. So we have free will. 4. However, if we take things as they come and show reactions to them without taking cognizance of that cause-effect chains behind it, then one could say we are just given to our desires. We have no free will then. We are no less than a madman.
I've always felt or had this knowing since a very early age. Most anyone having a " psychedelic experience" will easily gain this key of awareness. Everything is connected and alive. Frequency and vibration.
Pantheism perfectly explains the psychedelic experiences I’ve had. After my first acid trip, I started researching pantheism and it felt like all the puzzle pieces in my brain fell into place perfectly
Yeah me too, but I’m still not entirely sure tbh. I’m definitely not a monotheist, but a lot of my personal experiences point towards pantheism. However there’s another part of me that thinks pantheism is unscientific.
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence 12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker. 13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. 14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, 15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: 16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways. 17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence 12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker. 13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. 14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, 15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: 16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways. 17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
love this video. im just realizing i’ve been a pantheism for a couple years. i knew the word but didnt know the meaning. this video helped me understand my beliefs and also a few counterpoints i hadn’t considered. thank you for this
@@jelouche Nature worship is often considered the primitive source of modern religious beliefs and can be found in pantheism, panentheism, deism, polytheism, animism, Taoism, totemism, Hinduism, shamanism, some theism and paganism including Wicca.
Awesome. I like all your videos but the long form ones (over 10 mins) are just great when you get into the actual point / counter-point mode. I was really surprised you went as far as mentioning 'monads' when discussing pantheism. I like that your videos don't leave the viewer in a glib conclusive stance, but in a frame of mind that opens more deeply to further investigation. Keep up the good work.
“You are me and I am you I’ll always be with you You are me and I am you I’ll always be with you You are the sun, the rain, and the moon beams You are the Divine Goddess of my dreams You are the sun, the rainbows, the moon beams You are the Divine Goddess inside me”
9:00 I saw this during an acid trip where I connected to what I call ‘source energy’. I was looking at a tree and I ‘saw’ a gold filament connected in an infinite web connecting to everything around me. The intensity and thickness of the gold thread that connected each object varies depending on the object. Animals and birds had thicker threads than trees. Tree threads were thicker than those connected to rocks. And all man made objects - a plastic bin/cup etc has an even fainter thread. But absolutely everything was connected. Nothing was separate. My mind was using this image to convey to me the concept that I at the very least sub consciously believe. Everything was one, the universe was all connected and it all connected to me. During that trip I experienced the universe and everything and nothing all at the same time. It was an experience outside of time and space, that my mind could access - i visualised an accordion file containing universes that conveyed to me the idea that there are multiple realities stacked against each other, in a very organised manner. And that there was a thin layer or membrane separating them all. The folder was immensely thick and conveyed to me that the universe files away every single permutation and combination of options for every event. Each of these universes or timelines exists and doesn’t in a way - I suppose like Schrödinger’s cat. There was the everything and the nothing. And we in our file can only see and access what is here and accessible to us in these three dimensional physical bodies. We have a physical limit that prevents us from crossing over and knowing the other universes but our minds can traverse this ‘place’. that brings me to why I consider what I saw a belief and not truth. None of us will ever truly know the answer to if there is a god or not. And that seems to be the point. The visual of the accordion indicated to me the idea that the greater consciousness or source code is taking backups of everything, because it itself isn’t sure which is the best way to ‘evolve’ like this is some program running out every probability and once we play out the entire sequence, the system reboots and the entire process begins again. I sensed that I, we all, have done this infinite times. I felt a sense of ‘here we go again’ and familiarity with everything around me. I saw time as currents, not as a line like we experience it in our physical form or even as a simple cycle. It was wavy, curved, like how the water cycle is a cycle but there are so many ways that water moves through the process. I sensed that what my mind was experiencing- what I called the everywhen and the nowhere - that this was something replicated inside black holes. I experienced synesthesia where sound light and colour were intermingled. I could hear the music of sunlight as it filtered through the leaves. I could ‘see’ the light and colour from the speaker playing music as it came to my ears. I say ‘see’ because I was not seeing these things with my eyes, but with in my mind. I experienced ‘tessellation’ where I saw the membrane between ours and another universe blur and shimmer like a mirage. There was so much more, it’s so hard to explain everything I experienced at that time in a RUclips comment, but truly it was a divine, spiritual experience that touched my heart deeply. All of these things were all random passing thoughts and ideas I had had prior in life, but the effect of the lsd was to help me clearly visualise what was deep in my mind and heart - and enabled me to understand how I view myself in the grand scale of the universe and understand my place in it. I came out of this experience feeling healed and connected and my depression of over a decade was much improved to the extent that I can say now that I feel mentally healthy and very much at peace internally. It took time for me to reflect on the depth of my visions and understand my feelings about what I saw because truly, it was awesome and the scale of things I saw was beyond what my human mind could easily comprehend. The closest I can describe it is looking at hieroglyphics or cave drawings and trying to decipher what is being conveyed and pricing it all together to allow my conscious mind to connect with these thoughts in a coherent manner. This is why I believe in a pantheistic approach deep within me. I also believe there is no right approach to god, regardless of what the ‘truth’ might be - god to me now is our own personal relationship to the world around us and how it shapes how we conduct ourselves as we move through it and there are as many ways for that to exist as there are people. We only feel excited when we come across someone else that feels similarly because we feel validated, even though we will never truly know and can sometimes be a scary thought so we tend to hold on to it somewhat tightly.
I’ve never smoked/taken drugs/got drunk but comments like this convince me I need to take some sort of hallucinogenic and have this sort of experience before I die.
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence 12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker. 13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. 14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, 15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: 16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways. 17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
I absolutely LOVE the way these videos are made. So simple and so respectful. Both sides make the strongest arguments for their POV but I love that the Truth, the argument made on the left, allows the opposition to speak his arguments first before disassembling it logically. I love that the person who knows they are right is so respectful and patient. If only these conversations would happen like this in real life
They could happen in real life, and often, they do. The problem is that most of what is shown to the masses is the complete opposite to encourage more divisiveness. I think tribalism is genuinely the cause because it is easier to control smaller groups. Progress is not had by dividing people but by bringing them together to have logical debates.
Beautifully explained 😊 thanks please make more content on pantheism,athesim.The totality will always set you free.instead of denying things accept them as they are ,and then find the truth,the best way of finding the trui is always through,and never by running away from realities.
I only recently realized I was pantheistic (about three years ago). I'm also mildly existentialist. I feel my duty is to define me, be it and report back to the the universe what I learned trying to be me. ...Or not. Which makes me also agnostic on a number of levels. ...I think...
I'm a pantheist. I love explaining how atheism and pantheism are different and I think your points were very accurate. The counter for the belief, claiming a lack of evidence for a greater mind, is valid. I often explain that the consciousness you experience is one way from the greater sum. Much like how a skin cell doesn't know it's you, but it is in fact a part of you.
@@PhilosophyVibe Apostle Paul Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence 12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker. 13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. 14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, 15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: 16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways. 17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness. Acts 17:24-31 God Is There and Reachable 24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; 26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: 28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
I did not know I was a pantheist when I had a near death experience (NDE) and obtained this knowledge. I believe that most NDEers would label themselves as pantheists if they understood the meaning.
@A Wanderer Half dead, I don't think people who experience it could explain... Pretty much you died but came back or at least you were in the process of dying. I'm one of those people too
I am one of those and have changed my beliefs since that day.. I am most definitely a pantheist ( just now discovered there is a name to my personal philosophy lol)
Explain how 7 day creation isn’t explain logically? it literally makes perfect sense God created everything within 7 days, giving 7 a significant role within the Bible
@@rainb5987 My faith doesn’t belong in the 7 days of creation, in belongs in the person who made it, and exactly what’s go confusing about the 7 days of creation? It’s literally like learning the ABC’s it’s not even complicated
Bernardo Kastrup has some interesting ideas on why we feel like individual people having our own experiences. It's because, in a way, we are, while still being part of a universal consciousness. This is possible because our role within the universal consciousness is something like being an isolated personality in a brain with multiple-personality disorder. We experience reality as an individual "alter," which is different from anyone else's experience of reality, and yet we're all part of the same brain, or consciousness.
im a pantheist. because i need to believe something, i cant comprehend that everything was created just because, and this to me is the best reason. there has to be something, that’s what leads me into pantheism
@@redx11x Kind of. I can’t really describe properly why I’m a Pantheist, it’s really hard. “There has to be something” is the phrase that helps me most
Gospel of Thomas, Jesus said, “the Kingdom of God is all around us, if you split a piece of wood, you will find me. Lift a stone, I am there” Almost sounds like pantheism.
One fateful night, I literally kneeled by my bedside (I was an agnostic, but feeling lost) and I prayed to ??? and, somehow through that, came to become a Pantheist without even having known this term. After speaking to a friend about my beliefs, he told me the name of my belief: Pantheism, and now I've just been binging research on Pantheism XD
I think you are spot on with your thoughts on Pantheism. Everything has consciousness but at different levels. We have two types of consciousness whilst alive and come death we gradually lose our Earthly consciousness and continue with our universal consciousness.
Love this tbh, i believe I never knew the term to what I believe - and also, we definitely share consciousness. In fact, dogma is what Steve Jobs spoke about --- how our thoughts are effected by those around us. Also, telepathy is something I sometimes think of a lot, and I believe just like Albert Einstein thought "A person starts living when he can live outside himself" -- sometimes, i feel that some of my thoughts are originating from someone else besides myself and not just from myself. On another hand, religion says that Judas was destined to fail Jesus. It was destined, so where is there true will there, or maybe it is the intention theory that tricked him into doing so. We are humans, we will never really know. I stopped asking these questions at 16 and got back to them recently. I think we are part of consciousness, and when you are aligned with it and if you work on a high frequency and you are dealing with people with awareness, you manifest exactly what you want - the universe listens to you - God listens to you.
My version of panpsychism goes like this: humans are conscious as we know a priori, and this consciousness, and the only thing that seems special about the human brain is that is a complex and (relatively) closed system. All complex systems then, could be conscious in varying degrees based on their complexity. The consciousness of the human brain is entirely emergent, build with different rules and different mechanics
Apostle Paul Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence 12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker. 13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. 14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, 15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: 16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways. 17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness. Acts 17:24-31 God Is There and Reachable 24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; 26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: 28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Each religion shows a pixel of God. Pantheism zooms out and takes the picture to call it God. Individual God in each religion is like picking up rock and calling it earth.
That approach sounds nice, but it doesn’t hold water when scrutinized. Every religion’s conception of God is completely disparate in terms of origins and character traits. Why would you assume that all religions contain elements of truth? What if they are all incorrect?
Thanks for the video and the discussions. It was a great opportunity to explore some thought-provoking ideas. I really enjoyed it and it gave me a lot to think about.
Apostle Paul Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence 12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker. 13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people. 14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out, 15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: 16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways. 17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness. Acts 17:24-31 God Is There and Reachable 24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; 26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: 28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Good morning First time listener Now new subscriber I was drawn to this channel at seemingly random But many say no coincidences. Just strange in an interesting concept that I'd never heard of till today And how I've been writing a Fiction Novel where God was the Big Bang
Not just LSD for me it was various experiences in university that I feel like I could only attribute to God, I've been visiting various churches and temples, to get closer to that notion. I've seen the results, God is real, God is everywhere, God is you.
Yes it does! I have just a question, how do we know God is everything and not in everything, these two means different things, do they believe God is everything cause he is everywhere and nothing can be outside it, is the creation are inside of God are we God? I say yes but what do you think? (; How do we know God is everything and not just In everything and being separated?
The Apostle Paul - Mentions the Way of Salvation Paul did not detest the Law of Moses. Paul actually believed in The Law, but did not understand that God was going to bring in the grace. It had to first be a sacrifice - and that sacrifice was Jesus Christ. Paul did not detest The Law but quoted from Moses and explained what Moses could not explain back then, because it wasn't time yet. Moses means "drawn out" - and God used Moses to 'draw out' Israel from Egypt. The Hebrews spent scores of years in Egypt, and it was time to move on. The word 'Church' means "Called Out" - by Christ, the Church was called out of the world to make a people for God. In the epistles written by Paul, especially Romans and Galatians he explained the purpose of the church. In The Law in Deuteronomy 32 - God had Moses teach Joshua and the Children of Israel a song. This song was going to attest what the Children of Israel was going to do, including turning their back on God. But... in the end, God would bring Israel back. In that chapter, the Church was foretold due to Israel's idolatry which caused jealousy from God. For that reason God used a people that were not a people to cause Israel to jealousy. The Apostle Paul explains this in Romans 9, 10, and 11. Acts 13:38,39 38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: 39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
The point about consciousness is a good one. I was an atheist until I became a metaphysical idealist. At that point, the term pantheist became more accurate. We live in a feeling universe where experience is being. If I were still a metaphysical materialist, where experience is epiphenomenal, I would still call myself an atheist.
One idea: our minds communicate with each other through normal communication. We talk. We call for our dog. Birds sing. These things all influence the actions of the other entities around us. No supernatural web. Just a super, natural web.
I lean towards Panentheism over Pantheism... the concept that what we could label as God has minfested it's self into the universe and all forms of consciousness with in it but that God is something that transcends all of this....
Do not trust your perceptions. Perceptions are flawed. - Quantum physics 🌟✨ What we see is not the reality! The appearance is mistaken. Thus, there are two truths of the same reality we live in: the conventional truth (that we see and experience) & the ultimate truth (that we are seeking in actuality as the end goal). Keep exploring and studying 🥲🌱✌🏻
I adopted this belief but I didn't know that was the name. Born into a Christian family. But always believed that science reviews the power of God. For example the big bang was the word of God saying let there be. Got exposed to a book called spiritual law which focuses on astral planes and auto body experiences. This book explain to me reincarnation and how it makes sense within Christianity and gave scientific proof of people who have memories of their past life. Came across something in Buddhism that states there is no contradiction if everything is part of the one that is God. Meaning if everything is from God then what we think is the difference is not different, and made me see how each religion could possess a certain truth . And my point of view every religion is true. The problem is people take religion to personal and a lot of information is missing on most religions and how religion has been used to manipulate people and power . I came across the neurology it showed me how that numbers don't lie everything in the universe exist in a set of number. Numbers at universal language two things in English are two things in Chinese now also two things in Shona. And two stars in a specific solar system I still too. I came across the meaning of triple six in the numerology it means almost the same as in Christianity something bad. Introducing the universe to me if everything came from the. Then we are created from the from the universe what makes up stars is what we're made of there's no contradiction. If God created life or spoke life into everything then a part of God is that everything. Though of these things that things that are simply matter physical and things that are physical but alive which contain consciousness to their different levels then there's the unseen you could say the spiritual world which is just the conscience . when we die we become spirit which is the conscience which is the universe which is God. So I believe I am a god everyone else is god and we're all a part of God . that's why the conscience is believed to be the spirit.
This is same as Advaita Hindu Philosophy and Upanishads. One can realize supreme consciousness thru various means - meditation being one. The fourth state (Turiya) is where one can realize - but not many people can reach that state.
I see the difference between atheism and Pantheism as your belief in the power the “universe” can have on your life. A great example of this is the law of attraction. With the law of attraction it is believe that putting out positive and good intentions into the universe and focusing on that attracts those things into your life. The energy we put out reacts to the energy of the universe to help us achieve our goals. This is what Pantheism is! An atheist believes in nothing. They don’t believe in any power a god or the universe can have on our lives, things just happen for no rhyme or reason. Other then our physical actions in the real world there is no way to send out intentions into the universe to help benefit yourself. At least this is what I personally believe.
I really enjoy the content of your videos! Although I must say, the voice changing sounds just off and out of place. I appreciate the approach of a dialogue, but maybe there's a better way to go about it?
I think I've been a pantheist for a while now. I believe in it because the idea of varying levels of consciousness, and consciousness on a cellular level makes sense. The argument against collective consciousness (what I interpreted from the video) saying that if it was so, wouldn't we be more interconnected? I think we already are deeply interconnected. Everything we experience, others experience and the nature of our language and the connections we are able to develop with others seems to show our collectivity. Also, I think that gives reason to why our language is different from animal communication.
Jeremiah 10: THE TRUE GOD - THE GREAT GOD 6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might. 7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee. 10 But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation. 11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. 12 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion. 13 When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures. Exodus 15:1-8,10,11 MOSES - What He has to say about GOD 1 Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the Lord, and spake, saying, I will sing unto the Lord, for he hath triumphed gloriously: the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea. 2 The Lord is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him. 3 The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name. 4 Pharaoh's chariots and his host hath he cast into the sea: his chosen captains also are drowned in the Red sea. 5 The depths have covered them: they sank into the bottom as a stone. 6 Thy right hand, O Lord, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O Lord, hath dashed in pieces the enemy. 7 And in the greatness of thine excellency thou hast overthrown them that rose up against thee: thou sentest forth thy wrath, which consumed them as stubble. 8 And with the blast of thy nostrils the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea. 10 Thou didst blow with thy wind, the sea covered them: they sank as lead in the mighty waters. 11 Who is like unto thee, O Lord, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders?
I always believed that monotheism share some of the beliefs of pantheism. The Bible for instance does make a case for a single god with pantheistic qualities.
Christianity in a sense, put me on the path to pantheism. It wasn't till years later that I discovered it, but I believe there is truth everywhere, and the Universe speaks to us constantly, through many things when we are ready to see and learn it.
While Buddhism goes perfectly along with pantheism as I've studied it in great detail in depth and systematically since a decade! 🥲👌🏻 It's all about study, reflection, and habituation / meditation on self and all phenomena ✨🌟🌱🧬
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Thanks for doing this, but I think using the verb "debate" here is a bit of a stretch. Considered getting your cohost to lay off the cannabis edibles before recording? Why not try out a kind of dialogue, Socratic method, dialectic, something along those lines? It's much harder to write, but it's the difference between 30K subscribers and 300K. At some point this approach is not novel enough and you will reach a hard cap in terms of your ability to influence the world for good.
To follow up on this, I hadn't yet gotten to the bit where the other bloke starts talking, presuming you'd talk the entire time rather than going raspy-voiced for long periods. Hmm. I'd say you just need to work them together a bit more in that case, like a conversation rather than a lecture. Good luck, and thanks!
Cosmic panpsychism and monism is the principle of Hindu Vedanta philosophical texts Upanishads and Brahma Sutra. God is not separate in Awaita Vedanta, which is ancient Hindu philosophy. Spinoza might have read the translation of these texts. Spinoza's Ethics reads almost like a Vedantic text.
I believed in pantheism before I even knew the meaning of the word or that it even existed.
Exactly thee same here, I didn't even know the meaning, all I knew is that Pantheism is a doctrine, so I did a google search and I found out myself:), I'm a Pantheist, I just found out that:), but I do have deeper and more useful purposeful explanations and just looking for someone who is a good writer as I'm not one of those:(
Many people who are "spiritual but not religious" turn out to be Pantheists without ever having known it.
Same here lol
Ditto
Same. Was so happy and whole when I found it.
“You are a child of the universe, no more than the trees and the stars, you have a right to be here.” ❤️
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I love that quote! Could you tell us where it came from, if you know? Thanks :))
@@queenwillow3440 The Desiderata
I FORGOT ABOUT THIS QUOTE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
here’s another quote i love
“Hey. Your matter recalls cosmic explosions and you tasted oblivion before you learned your own name. Fear nothing.” -cryptonature
I had no idea there was a name for my beliefs!
It's hardly a belief. More like a philosophical conclusion.
@@mortenrobinson5421 Yes and no. I first came to the idea via Ayahuasca, so that would be a belief. Since then, it has become much less belief and much more , as you put it, a philosophical conclusion. Thanks for the comment!
Me too. I'm so glad I read you comment. Goes to show words aren't really needed.
@@AndrewUnruh where can you do a ayahuasca journey? can you do it by yourself, perhaps guided by some video for the journey online?
@@xspice1891 I do not recommend doing it without an experienced guide there in person - at least not at first.
Do your research - there are a lot of people who are just in it for the money. The first time I did it, it was at New Life Ayahuasca in Costa Rica. I'm sure there are lots of good outfits out there, but that one is very good.
There are analogs to true Ayahuasca. In my experience, Syrian Rue/Acacia Confusa works every bit as well as the 'real' stuff.
Research dr;ug interactions. There can be deadly consequences if you combine Aya with certain drugs (such as SSRIs).
An Atheist comes into the universe, a stranger in a hostile place, and feels they are seperate from it. A Pantheist comes out of the universe, having arrived home, and feels they are a part of it.
Beautifully put.
Perfectly explained !
Nice! Borrowing it! haha!
An atheist however comes into the universe/existence out of the universe/existing things. Its no different, just different language
Yes, I would further that a pantheist acknowledges the potential and wonder of the universe. And in fact a thing worthy of celebration and awe, a spiritual totality within nature
. An atheist feels put upon to a large degree by a hostile universe, somewhat trapped by thoughts of division rather than connection , and often nihilistic compulsions.
It is the 'Ego' that makes you feel you are your own self and separated from the ultimate consciousness. But if you surpassed the Ego you will understand you are part of thre whole which cannot be denied even in law of nature.
Maybe it's your ego that makes you not want to follow a divine law.
@@redx11x It’s your ego projecting your values onto others. Your “divine law” is just you.
@@malikc6 go Read Advait Vedanta of Hinduism
@@malikc6 acting as if their religious lifestyle is objective and correct...LOL! We're slowly decomposing multicelluar organisms with billions of other microorganisms on us...we're intellectual evolved creatures on top of the food chain but we forget that we're made out of carbon, star dust, etc. We come from the universe itself which is why I consider The universe an entity and God itself. Not a human depicted entity. Ego.
@@Codduct Exactly. Although many usually due to upbringing cannot see past a humanlike god.
I understood pantheism faster than I tried to do these last weeks. You made my dissertation easier now that I understood the theory. Thank you so much guys !
You're very welcome. Good luck in the dissertation.
Congrats on your masters!
The debating format is a genius way to explain concepts. Thanks for doing this 💜
You're welcome, thanks for watching, glad you like the content :)
Classic Hegelian dialectic
We are literally in the universe. Our life, our energy, everything we are and everything we have and will ever do makes up the universe. The universe made us. We are all the fabric of the universe. How can that not be God?
I agree totally.
People disagree because they always like to believe that god should always be able to help them
*We are literally -in- the universe. 😉
The difference is, we don't believe in man-made, magical deities that are in most religions.
We just see the universe, reality & nature as "God." We humans see *_us_* as "Gods" (as in, "We are God.")
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence
12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.
13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.
14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,
15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
Pantheism fits well with another belief of mine, the Akashic Records. I thought I was a agnostic for a long time but deep inside myself I knew there was something, something grand, almost karma like, with positive and negative actions and thoughts. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction so to say.
Some branch from Islam such sufism also view God with phanteist perspective
@@azmihakam sufism music is great
What an amazing explanation of pantheism. Thank you for this. I guess I am a Pantheist who practices Buddhism.
A pleasure, thanks for watching :)
I’m thinking the same 🧐
Same thoughts! It goes so well with Buddhism as the buddha nature is within all of us and the buddhahood state of mind explains as the one who exists in every single atom of the universe simultaneously!
So, it tallies with the pantheistic approach also while keeping it secular too! 🥴✌🏻🧬
Me too!
Pantheism differs from atheism is that an atheist sees it self apart from the ''all'' and pantheist see him self as part off the ''all''
One big organism
Disagree. You can deny the existence of a theistic god and be a philosophical pantheist at the same time. In fact, I’d argue that many pantheists are secular people who don’t follow religious rituals, despite having an interest in spirituality.
@@typicallymoody yeah that's me
@@typicallymoody I'm not sure I understand your point. I would think denying the existence of a theistic god, in itself is part of Pantheism. In the understanding of the word anyway. I will always, in my personal consciousness refer to a Unity, as the inherent understanding of the word God personifies something we could never comprehend. While there are no specific religious rituals relating to Pantheism, there are avenues some take to bring deeper awareness of the Universe. But that can range from the study of science, different philosophies or religions, meditation, or even drug use. Spirituality itself can simply be seen as the energy that flows through us all or as far as a conscious design that lays out the path we walk.
@@typicallymoody nope. Pantheism and atheism are mutually exclusive.
The atheist doesn't see himself apart from the "all". The conflict just lies in philosophy of mind. Pantheistic views which adopt physicalism or panpsychism (panpsychism accepts physical world as fundamental) are just euphemisms for atheism while Idealistic pantheism differs from atheism.
I had a dmt trip with the creator of the universe.. I didn't realise she was until half way through the trip I turned to her and said are u god ? And she laughed and said no this is god while pointing at the universe.. amazing journey.. she also told me we are energy and once made we can't die in her world... this trip brought me here looking for answers. 🤣
sounds super cool omg cant wait for my trip
That is crazy...in a good way. Very interesting!
Sounds like pantheism is right up your alley.
@@Galoxieview funnily enough I had never heard the term before.. but since I've told my trip story many people have said it sounds like that...
@@natmcd4043 Not just like that, is that. My whole basis in it stems from Einstein and his views on energy and monism, but also had my fair share of trips. Welcome to the club 🎉. Happy Journeys Nat. Be happy to talk some pantheism if you ever have the need.
I’m a pantheist because it just makes the most logical and intuitive sense to me when observing and experiencing the natural world. I don’t actually wish to be one, it’s just slightly less depressing than atheism, but I still struggle not to give into nihilism.
I feel like I'm spamming here cos I commented a similar thing to another person, but I feel it's important to pass on the suggestion to read Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramhansa Yogananda, and Be Here Now by Ram Dass. They are two books that helped me figure things out...plus other 'tools' at times! 😄
Please do not stop making these videos... you guys make some very easy-to-follow content on greatly abstract topics such as this. I love it.
Thank you very much :) and we still have a lot more to come.
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence
12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.
13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.
14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,
15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
As a (scientific) pantheist, thank you for this respectful take. When one thinks about God as separate from the creation, it is impossible to fully appreciate the vast and completeness of the creation. If it is two separate things, than God must be far greater (which is still possible with pantheism), and the creation insignificant in comparison. If God is separate, than God is limited, smaller than what could be.
But when it is realized that the creation is equal to and combined, it offers an aspect that each is great.
And, as individuals, our greatest praise must be to fully appreciate and try to understand the creation as a whole. And our greatest worship, is to participate as part of the creation. Through works that improve (such as thought, exploration, art) and through caring for the creation and it's parts (such as eachother)
Beautifully said, thank you.
Thank you for that!
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence
12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.
13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.
14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,
15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
I was an Atheist most of my life, then Agnostic and now a Pantheist. Although the similarities between Atheism & Pantheism are large, I'd argue that the same amount of similarities can be found when comparing Pantheism to any other religious or spiritual belief. And that switching from "God doesn't exist" to "God is everything" is a HUGE psychological leap.
As an Atheist, I refused the idea of a spirit, divinity or anything "magical". It could all be explained through science & evolution eventually. Now as a Pantheist I believe there's an almost infinite amount of spirits, divinity is all around me & magical is the only word I could use to describe a conscious Universe and my small part in it.
So although the word God is the only thing that separates Atheism & Pantheism linguistically, I believe that one word or belief is what puts Atheism & Pantheism at opposing ends of the spectrum. Atheism being at the bottom with no spiritual beliefs at all & Pantheism at the very top encompassing all spiritual beliefs.
I'd like to add and debate that Pantheism is the only decentralized belief.
Thanks for video guys! Absolutely brilliant!
we went through the same exact spiritual journey
Your post should say "the dissimilarities between atheism and pantheism are large"
Your assertion that the word "God is the only thing that separates atheism and pantheism linguistically" is false.
So do you pray, or talk to the spiritual world? But not like expecting life to go a certain way because you prayed, or expressed your hopes.
@@MrsBridgette2012 Pantheism do not believe in spirit. Maybe Wicca. It is the feeling of love, devotion, and a sense of attachment. It's almost like that but towards the planet. The focus on magic is one of the biggest differences between wicca and paganism.
As an atheist i think Pantheism is better than theist. It seems more realistic
You might be interested in Spinoza!
@A Wanderer bro calm down.
@A Wanderer just seems overly aggressive.
@A Wanderer I'm not sure how that's relevant? I enjoy philosophy?
@A Wanderer some people would call this entertainment “food for thought” or “intellectual stimulation”. Adopt a calmer approach and be one with yourself and accept things how they are. You will never change that atheism exists. Venting your frustrations like this is not an act of acceptance but rather an act of rejection. Your beliefs are valid. Stand strong in your beliefs like a flower among weeds. Do not hate the weeds for being weeds. They are simply distractions
I wouldn't say I adopted the belief, but rather I self-discovered it using my own feelings. I looked around for a word that suited my belief and came across Animism, but now I feel like Pantheism is much closer to my understanding of the universe than Animism.
Displaying God as an old man in the sky discredits theism
I’m a pantheist. When you talked about the “hive mind” (11:15), you discounted the way our minds link: we talk to each other. Our thoughts are communicated between each other’s minds through our normal communications channels. A group of people acts very differently than an individual or a simple collection of non-communicating individuals. No magic necessary for this. We have free will. And that will is influenced by everything around us (including other people).
That’s very interesting, I never thought about it like that.
Just like neurons in a brain.
If free will is influenceable then it isn't free will. Just a cog in the machine of long time cause and effect. Every thought is preceded by prior thoughts, actions, environmental factors etc. Free will is an illusion.
@@DatKiddLj Free Will might be an illusion, might I'm happy to be alive at least.
We all have desires thoughts ideas...well and good. Nobody can deny that.
2. We are guided by these feelings.
3. If we are conscious and compare different course of actions rationally having due regard to the universal causal links of events , then we are more likely to sift through the competing desires/ideas in order to reach the one among them, which is self-willed. So we have free will.
4. However, if we take things as they come and show reactions to them without taking cognizance of that cause-effect chains behind it, then one could say we are just given to our desires. We have no free will then. We are no less than a madman.
I've always felt or had this knowing since a very early age. Most anyone having a " psychedelic experience" will easily gain this key of awareness. Everything is connected and alive. Frequency and vibration.
Pantheism perfectly explains the psychedelic experiences I’ve had. After my first acid trip, I started researching pantheism and it felt like all the puzzle pieces in my brain fell into place perfectly
Exactly my same experience
Drugs are great for this!
Yeah me too, but I’m still not entirely sure tbh. I’m definitely not a monotheist, but a lot of my personal experiences point towards pantheism. However there’s another part of me that thinks pantheism is unscientific.
@@rico14 maybe it is animism.
@@augustodelerme7233 wdym animism
Wish I had people to have friendly debates like this with
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence
12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.
13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.
14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,
15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
This channel gives life purpose. I always wait for you guys.
Thank you :D
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence
12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.
13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.
14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,
15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
I’m glad I know this exist now
love this video. im just realizing i’ve been a pantheism for a couple years. i knew the word but didnt know the meaning. this video helped me understand my beliefs and also a few counterpoints i hadn’t considered. thank you for this
A religion that takes less than a paragraph to convince you... I'm in. I like it. Great video guys!.
There’s no need for someone to explain or convince you to believe in pantheism. Once you wakeup, you will automatically believe it naturally.
it is basically Advaita Vedanta, from hinduism
@@jelouche Nature worship is often considered the primitive source of modern religious beliefs and can be found in pantheism, panentheism, deism, polytheism, animism, Taoism, totemism, Hinduism, shamanism, some theism and paganism including Wicca.
Awesome. I like all your videos but the long form ones (over 10 mins) are just great when you get into the actual point / counter-point mode.
I was really surprised you went as far as mentioning 'monads' when discussing pantheism.
I like that your videos don't leave the viewer in a glib conclusive stance, but in a frame of mind that opens more deeply to further investigation.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much, happy to hear you enjoy the content!
“You are me and I am you
I’ll always be with you
You are me and I am you
I’ll always be with you
You are the sun, the rain, and the moon beams
You are the Divine Goddess of my dreams
You are the sun, the rainbows, the moon beams
You are the Divine Goddess inside me”
9:00 I saw this during an acid trip where I connected to what I call ‘source energy’. I was looking at a tree and I ‘saw’ a gold filament connected in an infinite web connecting to everything around me. The intensity and thickness of the gold thread that connected each object varies depending on the object. Animals and birds had thicker threads than trees. Tree threads were thicker than those connected to rocks. And all man made objects - a plastic bin/cup etc has an even fainter thread. But absolutely everything was connected. Nothing was separate. My mind was using this image to convey to me the concept that I at the very least sub consciously believe. Everything was one, the universe was all connected and it all connected to me. During that trip I experienced the universe and everything and nothing all at the same time. It was an experience outside of time and space, that my mind could access - i visualised an accordion file containing universes that conveyed to me the idea that there are multiple realities stacked against each other, in a very organised manner. And that there was a thin layer or membrane separating them all. The folder was immensely thick and conveyed to me that the universe files away every single permutation and combination of options for every event. Each of these universes or timelines exists and doesn’t in a way - I suppose like Schrödinger’s cat. There was the everything and the nothing. And we in our file can only see and access what is here and accessible to us in these three dimensional physical bodies. We have a physical limit that prevents us from crossing over and knowing the other universes but our minds can traverse this ‘place’. that brings me to why I consider what I saw a belief and not truth. None of us will ever truly know the answer to if there is a god or not. And that seems to be the point. The visual of the accordion indicated to me the idea that the greater consciousness or source code is taking backups of everything, because it itself isn’t sure which is the best way to ‘evolve’ like this is some program running out every probability and once we play out the entire sequence, the system reboots and the entire process begins again. I sensed that I, we all, have done this infinite times. I felt a sense of ‘here we go again’ and familiarity with everything around me. I saw time as currents, not as a line like we experience it in our physical form or even as a simple cycle. It was wavy, curved, like how the water cycle is a cycle but there are so many ways that water moves through the process. I sensed that what my mind was experiencing- what I called the everywhen and the nowhere - that this was something replicated inside black holes. I experienced synesthesia where sound light and colour were intermingled. I could hear the music of sunlight as it filtered through the leaves. I could ‘see’ the light and colour from the speaker playing music as it came to my ears. I say ‘see’ because I was not seeing these things with my eyes, but with in my mind. I experienced ‘tessellation’ where I saw the membrane between ours and another universe blur and shimmer like a mirage. There was so much more, it’s so hard to explain everything I experienced at that time in a RUclips comment, but truly it was a divine, spiritual experience that touched my heart deeply. All of these things were all random passing thoughts and ideas I had had prior in life, but the effect of the lsd was to help me clearly visualise what was deep in my mind and heart - and enabled me to understand how I view myself in the grand scale of the universe and understand my place in it. I came out of this experience feeling healed and connected and my depression of over a decade was much improved to the extent that I can say now that I feel mentally healthy and very much at peace internally. It took time for me to reflect on the depth of my visions and understand my feelings about what I saw because truly, it was awesome and the scale of things I saw was beyond what my human mind could easily comprehend. The closest I can describe it is looking at hieroglyphics or cave drawings and trying to decipher what is being conveyed and pricing it all together to allow my conscious mind to connect with these thoughts in a coherent manner. This is why I believe in a pantheistic approach deep within me. I also believe there is no right approach to god, regardless of what the ‘truth’ might be - god to me now is our own personal relationship to the world around us and how it shapes how we conduct ourselves as we move through it and there are as many ways for that to exist as there are people. We only feel excited when we come across someone else that feels similarly because we feel validated, even though we will never truly know and can sometimes be a scary thought so we tend to hold on to it somewhat tightly.
Thank you for this write up.
I’ve never smoked/taken drugs/got drunk but comments like this convince me I need to take some sort of hallucinogenic and have this sort of experience before I die.
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence
12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.
13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.
14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,
15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
@@azyy1248id recommend it if you’re safe and educated about it
I absolutely LOVE the way these videos are made. So simple and so respectful. Both sides make the strongest arguments for their POV but I love that the Truth, the argument made on the left, allows the opposition to speak his arguments first before disassembling it logically. I love that the person who knows they are right is so respectful and patient. If only these conversations would happen like this in real life
They could happen in real life, and often, they do. The problem is that most of what is shown to the masses is the complete opposite to encourage more divisiveness. I think tribalism is genuinely the cause because it is easier to control smaller groups. Progress is not had by dividing people but by bringing them together to have logical debates.
Beautifully explained 😊 thanks please make more content on pantheism,athesim.The totality will always set you free.instead of denying things accept them as they are ,and then find the truth,the best way of finding the trui is always through,and never by running away from realities.
Atheists live in a constant state of denial...appeals to negative minded people
I only recently realized I was pantheistic (about three years ago). I'm also mildly existentialist. I feel my duty is to define me, be it and report back to the the universe what I learned trying to be me. ...Or not. Which makes me also agnostic on a number of levels. ...I think...
Yea, I’ve given up on existentialism, it’s too much focused on beliefs of the rational mind only
I have been looking for a word or a title for my beliefs . Thank you . 💜
You're welcome, hope you enjoyed the video.
I’m so happy I just discovered my belief had a name! I have closure!
ive been confused all my life.. thanks to this.
I'm a pantheist. I love explaining how atheism and pantheism are different and I think your points were very accurate. The counter for the belief, claiming a lack of evidence for a greater mind, is valid. I often explain that the consciousness you experience is one way from the greater sum. Much like how a skin cell doesn't know it's you, but it is in fact a part of you.
Thanks... Very informative discussion.
You’re welcome 😀
@@PhilosophyVibe Apostle Paul
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence
12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.
13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.
14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,
15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
Acts 17:24-31 God Is There and Reachable
24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
holy shit perfect time for my high school course (: tyvm
I did not know I was a pantheist when I had a near death experience (NDE) and obtained this knowledge. I believe that most NDEers would label themselves as pantheists if they understood the meaning.
Could you elaborate on that, please? What knowledge did you obtain and how it happened?
@A Wanderer Half dead, I don't think people who experience it could explain... Pretty much you died but came back or at least you were in the process of dying. I'm one of those people too
@A Wanderer Okay
I am one of those and have changed my beliefs since that day.. I am most definitely a pantheist ( just now discovered there is a name to my personal philosophy lol)
I almost died when I was in my early teens, shit crazy fr i came to this realization without knowing what pantheism is
Pantheism is the only logical result of my search. Thank you!
This is explained more logically than 7 day creation.
Except that story isn't a logical one
@@Platinumotion why do you say so?
Explain how 7 day creation isn’t explain logically? it literally makes perfect sense God created everything within 7 days, giving 7 a significant role within the Bible
@@Ranchy_Ranch I mean logic requires reasonings and scientific explanation, not faith.
@@rainb5987 My faith doesn’t belong in the 7 days of creation, in belongs in the person who made it, and exactly what’s go confusing about the 7 days of creation? It’s literally like learning the ABC’s it’s not even complicated
Bernardo Kastrup has some interesting ideas on why we feel like individual people having our own experiences. It's because, in a way, we are, while still being part of a universal consciousness. This is possible because our role within the universal consciousness is something like being an isolated personality in a brain with multiple-personality disorder. We experience reality as an individual "alter," which is different from anyone else's experience of reality, and yet we're all part of the same brain, or consciousness.
im a pantheist. because i need to believe something, i cant comprehend that everything was created just because, and this to me is the best reason. there has to be something, that’s what leads me into pantheism
Your a Pantheist because you don't want to follow divine law, rather just follow yourself. You've made yourself your own God.
@@redx11x Kind of. I can’t really describe properly why I’m a Pantheist, it’s really hard. “There has to be something” is the phrase that helps me most
@@Cam-ls1co when you get down to it, it sounds like just another form of atheism.
@@redx11x Hmm no. I am a Pantheist.
@@redx11x what do you believe in?
Thank you so much. I remember reading about pantheism and realizing that was exactly my insight on "God"
Very good explanation of panthiesm, but i would think that everything can have infinite consciousness when it realizes its godness
Gospel of Thomas, Jesus said, “the Kingdom of God is all around us, if you split a piece of wood, you will find me. Lift a stone, I am there”
Almost sounds like pantheism.
Christianity is just Greek Pantheism mixed with Judaism,
There is a subtle but important difference between god being ‘in” everything and god “being” everything. Pantheism proposes the latter.
One fateful night, I literally kneeled by my bedside (I was an agnostic, but feeling lost) and I prayed to ??? and, somehow through that, came to become a Pantheist without even having known this term. After speaking to a friend about my beliefs, he told me the name of my belief: Pantheism, and now I've just been binging research on Pantheism XD
Psychedelics brought me here.
I was a hard-core atheist until DMT. Pantheism now seems like the logical answer for me.
I think you are spot on with your thoughts on Pantheism. Everything has consciousness but at different levels. We have two types of consciousness whilst alive and come death we gradually lose our Earthly consciousness and continue with our universal consciousness.
Love this tbh, i believe I never knew the term to what I believe - and also, we definitely share consciousness. In fact, dogma is what Steve Jobs spoke about --- how our thoughts are effected by those around us. Also, telepathy is something I sometimes think of a lot, and I believe just like Albert Einstein thought "A person starts living when he can live outside himself" -- sometimes, i feel that some of my thoughts are originating from someone else besides myself and not just from myself. On another hand, religion says that Judas was destined to fail Jesus. It was destined, so where is there true will there, or maybe it is the intention theory that tricked him into doing so. We are humans, we will never really know. I stopped asking these questions at 16 and got back to them recently. I think we are part of consciousness, and when you are aligned with it and if you work on a high frequency and you are dealing with people with awareness, you manifest exactly what you want - the universe listens to you - God listens to you.
So happy to have found this video and finally be able to put a name to what I believe
My version of panpsychism goes like this: humans are conscious as we know a priori, and this consciousness, and the only thing that seems special about the human brain is that is a complex and (relatively) closed system. All complex systems then, could be conscious in varying degrees based on their complexity. The consciousness of the human brain is entirely emergent, build with different rules and different mechanics
You're so good at explaining things. Pantheism is definitely fascinating.
Apostle Paul
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence
12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.
13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.
14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,
15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
Acts 17:24-31 God Is There and Reachable
24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Each religion shows a pixel of God. Pantheism zooms out and takes the picture to call it God. Individual God in each religion is like picking up rock and calling it earth.
Great explanation!! I fully understand it! 👏👏👏
That approach sounds nice, but it doesn’t hold water when scrutinized. Every religion’s conception of God is completely disparate in terms of origins and character traits.
Why would you assume that all religions contain elements of truth? What if they are all incorrect?
Thanks for the video and the discussions. It was a great opportunity to explore some thought-provoking ideas. I really enjoyed it and it gave me a lot to think about.
So glad you enjoyed, thanks for watching.
Monads = midi chlorians from Star Wars, responsible for one’s oneness with the Force.
Apostle Paul
Acts 14:12-17) - God Left A Witness of his Existence
12 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker.
13 Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city, brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have done sacrifice with the people.
14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,
15 And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
16 Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways.
17 Nevertheless he left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.
Acts 17:24-31 God Is There and Reachable
24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Very nicely done. Especially making the necessary connection between pantheism and panpsychism to differentiate pantheism from atheism.
Thank you :D
According to Hinduism god is energy present in this universe and we all have evolved from this energy named as adi - shaktee .
Amazingly well-explained and summarized, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed :)
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I can't help but think this would be better if this guy were more than this ...
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I was drawn to this channel at seemingly random
But many say no coincidences.
Just strange in an interesting concept that I'd never heard of till today
And how I've been writing a Fiction Novel where God was the Big Bang
acid led me to pantheism. or advaita vedanta. the moment i fully absorbed that everything is ONE thing, everything finally made sense.
Really that is interesting on LSD you can see the universe breathing.
Not just LSD for me it was various experiences in university that I feel like I could only attribute to God, I've been visiting various churches and temples, to get closer to that notion. I've seen the results, God is real, God is everywhere, God is you.
It's interesting how a drug can make something like a religion, make more sense just by an act of extraordinary.
I believed this before I knew it was a thing. This makes more common sense than anything else.
Yes it does! I have just a question, how do we know God is everything and not in everything, these two means different things, do they believe God is everything cause he is everywhere and nothing can be outside it, is the creation are inside of God are we God? I say yes but what do you think? (; How do we know God is everything and not just In everything and being separated?
No, it really doesn’t. It’s based off of baseless assumptions and lacks evidence just like most other religions.
Pantheists matter ! Or should I say Pantheists/Matter ? Get it ?
@IZ Digital Piano And all threw time.
Remember that the universe is the ultimate provider, we are the universe, and the universe is us.
Wow...very well explained 👏🏻🌟
Thanks 😊
Everyone who watches this channel are truly human beings
If God is everything that means it’s extremely personal it’s you!
The Apostle Paul - Mentions the Way of Salvation
Paul did not detest the Law of Moses. Paul actually believed in The Law,
but did not understand that God was going to bring in the grace. It had
to first be a sacrifice - and that sacrifice was Jesus Christ.
Paul did not detest The Law but quoted from Moses and explained what Moses
could not explain back then, because it wasn't time yet.
Moses means "drawn out" - and God used Moses to 'draw out' Israel from Egypt. The Hebrews spent scores of years in Egypt, and it was time to
move on.
The word 'Church' means "Called Out" - by Christ, the Church was called out
of the world to make a people for God.
In the epistles written by Paul, especially Romans and Galatians he explained the purpose of the church.
In The Law in Deuteronomy 32 - God had Moses teach Joshua and the Children
of Israel a song. This song was going to attest what the Children of Israel
was going to do, including turning their back on God.
But... in the end, God would bring Israel back. In that chapter, the Church was foretold due to Israel's idolatry which caused jealousy from God. For
that reason God used a people that were not a people to cause Israel to jealousy. The Apostle Paul explains this in Romans 9, 10, and 11.
Acts 13:38,39
38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
This was great video i really appreciate it and the fact that you took time to elaborate and state feelings of both sides. Deserves props.
Glad you enjoyed :)
Thank youuu!! This video is awesome.
You're very welcome.
I wouldn't go as far as to say that Pantheism is a religion but rather a branch of Science and Philosophy.
Energy can't be created or destroyed.
Therefore god is eternal.
Ain't that the truth 👋👍
I’m glad I finally found what it’s called.
It makes sense to me.
Me too. It makes sense to me than any religion. Its the most logical explanation.
The point about consciousness is a good one. I was an atheist until I became a metaphysical idealist. At that point, the term pantheist became more accurate. We live in a feeling universe where experience is being. If I were still a metaphysical materialist, where experience is epiphenomenal, I would still call myself an atheist.
I believe it's not a hive mind. It's a dissociative experience of one large consciousness/universe.
One idea: our minds communicate with each other through normal communication. We talk. We call for our dog. Birds sing. These things all influence the actions of the other entities around us. No supernatural web. Just a super, natural web.
that’s a really good way to put it
Bless you all.
I lean towards Panentheism over Pantheism... the concept that what we could label as God has minfested it's self into the universe and all forms of consciousness with in it but that God is something that transcends all of this....
@A Wanderer the fact? What's is this fact?
Pantheism is the only thing I found to be more logically sound than Nihilism, I'm glad it feels like I can't go back :)
Try to learn more about Penentheism, especially Panendeism.
This is really the only thing that makes sense
Do not trust your perceptions. Perceptions are flawed.
- Quantum physics 🌟✨
What we see is not the reality! The appearance is mistaken.
Thus, there are two truths of the same reality we live in: the conventional truth (that we see and experience) & the ultimate truth (that we are seeking in actuality as the end goal).
Keep exploring and studying 🥲🌱✌🏻
Wow I can't believe this video only have 47k views more people should really listen to this
I believe that consciousness itself is god
I adopted this belief but I didn't know that was the name. Born into a Christian family. But always believed that science reviews the power of God. For example the big bang was the word of God saying let there be. Got exposed to a book called spiritual law which focuses on astral planes and auto body experiences. This book explain to me reincarnation and how it makes sense within Christianity and gave scientific proof of people who have memories of their past life. Came across something in Buddhism that states there is no contradiction if everything is part of the one that is God. Meaning if everything is from God then what we think is the difference is not different, and made me see how each religion could possess a certain truth . And my point of view every religion is true. The problem is people take religion to personal and a lot of information is missing on most religions and how religion has been used to manipulate people and power .
I came across the neurology it showed me how that numbers don't lie everything in the universe exist in a set of number. Numbers at universal language two things in English are two things in Chinese now also two things in Shona. And two stars in a specific solar system I still too. I came across the meaning of triple six in the numerology it means almost the same as in Christianity something bad. Introducing the universe to me if everything came from the. Then we are created from the from the universe what makes up stars is what we're made of there's no contradiction.
If God created life or spoke life into everything then a part of God is that everything. Though of these things that things that are simply matter physical and things that are physical but alive which contain consciousness to their different levels then there's the unseen you could say the spiritual world which is just the conscience . when we die we become spirit which is the conscience which is the universe which is God.
So I believe I am a god everyone else is god and we're all a part of God .
that's why the conscience is believed to be the spirit.
I am personally a deist, a scientific panendeist to be more precise, with a touch of agnostism, because you never know.
This is same as Advaita Hindu Philosophy and Upanishads. One can realize supreme consciousness thru various means - meditation being one. The fourth state (Turiya) is where one can realize - but not many people can reach that state.
I see the difference between atheism and Pantheism as your belief in the power the “universe” can have on your life.
A great example of this is the law of attraction. With the law of attraction it is believe that putting out positive and good intentions into the universe and focusing on that attracts those things into your life. The energy we put out reacts to the energy of the universe to help us achieve our goals. This is what Pantheism is! An atheist believes in nothing. They don’t believe in any power a god or the universe can have on our lives, things just happen for no rhyme or reason. Other then our physical actions in the real world there is no way to send out intentions into the universe to help benefit yourself.
At least this is what I personally believe.
I really enjoy the content of your videos! Although I must say, the voice changing sounds just off and out of place. I appreciate the approach of a dialogue, but maybe there's a better way to go about it?
I think I've been a pantheist for a while now. I believe in it because the idea of varying levels of consciousness, and consciousness on a cellular level makes sense. The argument against collective consciousness (what I interpreted from the video) saying that if it was so, wouldn't we be more interconnected? I think we already are deeply interconnected. Everything we experience, others experience and the nature of our language and the connections we are able to develop with others seems to show our collectivity. Also, I think that gives reason to why our language is different from animal communication.
The Universe is personally existing so that YOU can exist. Thus giving you the gift of being you.
Loved the video, would’ve also been interested in a short segment on the Fibonacci sequence and the golden ratio.
The Koran says fa'ainama tuwallu wajhullah. Whatever you see, you see God's face.
Jeremiah 10: THE TRUE GOD - THE GREAT GOD
6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.
7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee.
10 But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.
11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.
12 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.
13 When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.
Exodus 15:1-8,10,11 MOSES - What He has to say about GOD
1 Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the Lord, and spake, saying, I will sing unto the Lord, for he hath triumphed gloriously: the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.
2 The Lord is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him.
3 The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name.
4 Pharaoh's chariots and his host hath he cast into the sea: his chosen captains also are drowned in the Red sea.
5 The depths have covered them: they sank into the bottom as a stone.
6 Thy right hand, O Lord, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O Lord, hath dashed in pieces the enemy.
7 And in the greatness of thine excellency thou hast overthrown them that rose up against thee: thou sentest forth thy wrath, which consumed them as stubble.
8 And with the blast of thy nostrils the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea.
10 Thou didst blow with thy wind, the sea covered them: they sank as lead in the mighty waters.
11 Who is like unto thee, O Lord, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders?
As a kid I had no idea other people shared "panthiestic view" in 2002 when I first saw an oxygen atom. It clicked almost immediately
I always believed that monotheism share some of the beliefs of pantheism. The Bible for instance does make a case for a single god with pantheistic qualities.
Christianity in a sense, put me on the path to pantheism. It wasn't till years later that I discovered it, but I believe there is truth everywhere, and the Universe speaks to us constantly, through many things when we are ready to see and learn it.
While Buddhism goes perfectly along with pantheism as I've studied it in great detail in depth and systematically since a decade! 🥲👌🏻
It's all about study, reflection, and habituation / meditation on self and all phenomena ✨🌟🌱🧬
Thanks for your videos
You're welcome :)
Us humans will label anything god
I read the Upanishads many years ago, it made sense.
If you do not feel like your mind is part of anything else then just try some mushrooms lmfao