Argonne Rebels / Great Bend, Kansas / 1972 / Drum Corps International

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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024

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  • @lauraschmid997
    @lauraschmid997 Год назад +4

    I loved this corps. Made friends with a couple of the horn line. Still have their pictures. I was from Ohio. Still have corps button and made a rug out of the button about 5 feet wide.

  • @KanTexCali
    @KanTexCali 4 года назад +19

    I marched in this show. I was in our our all-male color guard, and 1972 was my rookie year (I was all of 14), so it was very exciting. We took 5th place, and we were the only corps in the top 12 from a non-metropolitan area. Our brass instructor, Sandra Opie, was meticulous and demanded the best and had the talent to get it, with practice, persuasion and passion. Sandra and her husband Glenn were the heart and soul of Argonne for so many years, with Glenn acting as the Director of our corps, while also holding down a job as a lawyer at his own firm. Unfortunately, 1973 would be the last year that Argonne would place in the DCI finals, and the Opies left at the end of the season, having served commendably for several decades. It was never quite the same. I marched in the color guard in ‘72, ‘73 and ‘74, and the corps eventually disbanded in 1984. Sandra went on to become the first female DCI judge, and has been inducted into the DCI Hall of Fame. It was one of the major highlights of my life, and I think anyone that marched drum corps, would probably feel the same way.

    • @DavidGlover-s7x
      @DavidGlover-s7x 8 месяцев назад +2

      I marched Sky Ryders in 1986 and have to say, people talk about the return of the Sky Ryders which I'm all in favor of but we cannot forget this legendary corps, Argonne! You guys were WAY AHEAD of your time with one of the best hornlines in DCI history. High praise to this corps and if they returned (with Sky Ryders) I would have to donate to both :).

    • @thomaskeller3490
      @thomaskeller3490 9 дней назад +1

      ​@@DavidGlover-s7x I will be working for Sky this upcoming year. I truly hope that the rebels come back in the future

    • @DavidGlover-s7x
      @DavidGlover-s7x 9 дней назад

      @@thomaskeller3490 best of luck for a great season.

  • @stevenwernz7340
    @stevenwernz7340 2 года назад +10

    Was there with the Queen City Cadets from Cincinnati. Remember watching them practice in the courtyard from the 14 floor of the dorm we stayed in. Notice, no amps, trombones, singers, etc. True Drum And Bugle Corps!

    • @americanspirit8932
      @americanspirit8932 2 года назад +3

      Back when we had Real Drum and bugle c o r p s. In my opinion DCI has turned the activity into a marching band competition, superimposed on the three-ring circus. Today's date September 7th 2022. Former member of the Long Island sunrises 1964 through 1968. May all the real drum and bugle c o r p s, rest in peace.

    • @DouglasESmith-fu7di
      @DouglasESmith-fu7di 6 месяцев назад

      Inspection! And starting "on the starting line" would someone please start a new drum corps activity. With the original rules. There used to be literally thousands of drum corps and bands across the country. There were dozens in Massachusetts alone. Every other town had a drum corps or a marching band or both. Now it costs $5000 to March in a top 12 corps. Lose the sets and new uniforms every year and amplification and make it accessible to the kid in your town who spends all their time playing videogames. Jesus Christ. I'm referring to the music. Amazing!

  • @ralphgeigner5497
    @ralphgeigner5497 Год назад +6

    Gone are many great corps ! My brother and I played with the Kenosha, WI Kingsmen for many years !
    This was one of my first corps shows after coming back from being stationed in Japan, Iwakuni USN Seabees

  • @kansaskid2012
    @kansaskid2012 2 года назад +8

    As the 50th anniversary of this Inaugural DCI Championship, I reflect back to those halcyon days of true Drum corps. I marched with this legendary corps as a 13 year old kid. The show itself was visionary and magical. Our horn line rivaled any brass section, including the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. Our commitment and dedication shaped my life forward. Sandra and Glenn Opie and all of our staff, felt this performance would rank higher, but it showed us well. Qui Vincent du pugnare. Argonne Rebels!🎺🥁🎶🌻🇺🇸

    • @KanTexCali
      @KanTexCali 2 года назад +3

      That was an amazing night. It was my rookie year, I was in the color guard and I was only 14. Am thrilled to be a part of history… inaugural member of the very first DCI National Championship (and then to go on to win the American Legion National Championship at Soldier Field in Chicago, and parade down Michigan Avenue). Halcyon days indeed. Wouldn’t trade anything in the world for those years with Argonne, and I imagine most anyone who ever marched in drum corps would feel the same. Glad to have shared those halcyon days with you. “The Argonne Rebels are always ready”!

    • @kansaskid2012
      @kansaskid2012 2 года назад +2

      Yes Steve. We were there and those days and nights still resonate with us. I was a year or two younger than you, but remember you and many corps men. I am going to Indy for the 50th anniversary. That is, if my flights cooperate. Best wishes Steve. Should be quite a trip.🎺🥁5️⃣0️⃣

    • @DavidGlover-s7x
      @DavidGlover-s7x 8 месяцев назад +1

      I marched in Sky Ryders in 1986 and I worshipped the Argonne Rebels. My father marched St. Lucy's Cadets in the 1960's and we both awed at how amazing the hornline was. If Argonne returned with Sky, I'd be a happy man!

    • @DouglasESmith-fu7di
      @DouglasESmith-fu7di 6 месяцев назад

      Great choice of music. I love this musical.

  • @oldschooldrumcorps
    @oldschooldrumcorps 3 года назад +6

    This show got me into Drum Corps as a kid in 1973, I borrowed a record of the whitewater championship from my cousin who was in the snare line for the Minisink Warriors in the Bronx, NY, I played that record till the grooves gave out, memorized the horn parts for each section! I played the Argonne Rebels Off the line for my audition for my junior high drum and bugle corps, surprised our instructor, who knew of this corps! I later went onto join the Morrisanian Lancers, also known as the New York Lancers (from the Bronx) the next year, for my rookie year in Drum Corps, Just in time to see Madison Scouts win a DCI championship at my first finals (from the stands, of course). Memories....Thanks for the post, I never got a chance to see the corps perform this show live, this will do, thanks!!!!

    • @KanTexCali
      @KanTexCali 2 года назад +2

      Thank you for your great story and the wonderful tribute to Argonne. I was marching in the color guard that night. It was my rookie year and I was all of 14 years old. I feel very privileged not only to have marched with Argonne for four years, but to have also been one of the founding corps in that first DCI National Championship in 1972 at Warhawk Stadium in Whitewater WI, 50 years ago next month. Time goes by in a flash.

  • @byDesignPartners
    @byDesignPartners  8 лет назад +20

    Love the roar of the crowd after "Barnum & Bailey's Favorite"! And the "Fantastic" someone yelled after "Superstar."

    • @nostalgia6578
      @nostalgia6578 5 лет назад +2

      Magnificent Yankees (Central New York) played Barnum and Bailey in 1965 and 1966. Great rendition here by Argonne in '72!!!

  • @rodneynees1498
    @rodneynees1498 3 года назад +5

    Clean and Crisp marching. Great style. Horn line nice!

    • @retireorbust
      @retireorbust 3 года назад +3

      When I lived there the horns were ranked no. 1 in the country. Used to hear them practicing every week night from half a mile away.

  • @scottmacwilliams7971
    @scottmacwilliams7971 8 лет назад +17

    I marched in Argonne 1967-1971 so I wasn't in that show, but we did the same set except for Love Story in 1971. I'll never get tired of hearing that horn line, EVER! We were so tight, clean and melodic. Sandra Opie always had us sing our parts before we ever played them, so we had the notes in our ears and heads before putting them through the horn. We literally sang through our horns, and I think that is what really set us apart from all the other great horn lines back then.

    • @dkneuer
      @dkneuer 4 года назад +1

      Yes,the glory days of drum corp! Loved that horn line on GD bugles! Two valve or rotary! Getzen or Olds bugles?

    • @tommcconville4270
      @tommcconville4270 4 года назад +1

      @@dkneuer Don, don't mean to correct you, but almost every corps brass line was playing GF bugles, and by early seventies everyone went to GF#. Nowadays I'm not sure what intonation they are tuned in, whether it's the key of B# or B flat.

    • @tommcconville4270
      @tommcconville4270 4 года назад +2

      @@dkneuer In Eastern drum corps I played in, we used Smith bugles. I was a baritone player and the Smith baritone had an extended bell. Would have loved to have played an Olds baritone, all their bugles were great, mellow sound and great intonation.

    • @dkneuer
      @dkneuer 4 года назад +2

      @@tommcconville4270 In 1972 the Floridian's purchased both Getzen and Olds bugles. They were all G-D. Valve and Rotary. Used them till the corp folded in 1976. I really don't know what other corps used, because our first contest wasn't till August. No state championships the last four years. Did not have much time to mingle or observe. Had my opportunity to talk with Truman Crawford in 1975 in Lexington about the Floridians horn line. The corp did poorly there scoring a 46, 43 consecutive nights.
      The corp director wanted to pack up and go home. My conversation with Truman changed his mind. Four days of hard work and changes to the show paid off at Slippery Rock. The corp scored a 60.0 in prelims! Truman wrote on the brass sheets " You did your homework! " ( He knew by our conversation that I was a music teacher in public teacher 1975) the corp scored a 69.25 a week later on won class A prelims at North Tandwanda, NY.Miracle corp from Florida,Drum Corp News August 1975

    • @tommcconville4270
      @tommcconville4270 4 года назад +2

      @@dkneuer Thanks for the reply, that's a good association you had having Truman Crawford as your brass instructor, one of the all time finest in drum corps. I was in a New Jersey corps in 1971 and the director purchased Smith bugles. We were told that these were GF horns.

  • @keithreinwald3281
    @keithreinwald3281 5 лет назад +6

    Always enjoyed Argonne's shows...particularly,this one.

  • @BaltoJerseyGuy
    @BaltoJerseyGuy 4 года назад +8

    The company front at the end of "Barnum and Bailey's Favorite".... holy mackerel. What a great sound.

    • @tomshea8382
      @tomshea8382 2 года назад +3

      Pure drum corps. Nothing like it in the world.

  • @rheafoster7346
    @rheafoster7346 8 лет назад +12

    ah, the glory days of drum corps. What chops! killer all the way through, and then cap it off with the incredibly demanding "Love Story" closer.

  • @MrMusicmicky
    @MrMusicmicky 5 лет назад +8

    Great sounding brass! Thanks for posting!

  • @Nigelrathbone1
    @Nigelrathbone1 10 месяцев назад +2

    Back in the day when drill often was not written to best present the music dynamic contours. Opening statement very much like a parade formation.

  • @americanspirit8932
    @americanspirit8932 6 лет назад +7

    REAL DRUM AND BUGLE CORPS. GREAT JOB & MEMORIES.

  • @lindadenton3974
    @lindadenton3974 2 года назад +5

    First great hornline !

  • @MyPaul1977
    @MyPaul1977 8 лет назад +9

    Best Corps in the World!

  • @DavidGlover-s7x
    @DavidGlover-s7x 8 месяцев назад +2

    Argonne, the highest placing Kansas corps in DCI. Beat the SCV in brass that year.

  • @bobareebop
    @bobareebop 4 года назад +3

    Love the BASS drum sound in the opener.

  • @kjedfjefaf
    @kjedfjefaf 4 года назад +4

    It's having lived moments like these, a zillion years ago, that puts me right here. 2020 at 5:19am STILL living them when I should be sleeping. Wondering how the hell I'm going to make it to work in just over 2 very fast hours from now...
    PfB~

    • @kjedfjefaf
      @kjedfjefaf 4 года назад +3

      yes it was a great brass line, but you just watch it over and over again and can't help but appreciate the visual nuances that program had. 'Specially for the time. Really made for a musical, "portrait". I sometimes wonder, while watching the build into that "wedge" during Stars & Stripes, if the designer had ever wished he could have gotten them there just a little bit sooner to maximize it's impact? Which is not to take away, in any way, my opinion of the whole program being an absolute success in Visual Design 😏.
      PfB~

  • @VaughnDJs
    @VaughnDJs 2 года назад +3

    good stuff! 11:06 I bet they practiced this section as much as any

  • @kjedfjefaf
    @kjedfjefaf 4 года назад +5

    yes it was a great brass line, but you just watch it over and over again and you can't help but appreciate the visual nuances that program had. 'Specially for the time. Really made for a musical, "portrait". I sometimes wonder, while watching the build into that "wedge" during Stars & Stripes, if the designer had ever wished he could have gotten them there just a bit sooner to max it's impact? Which is not to take away, in any way, my opinion of the whole program being an absolute success in Visual Design 😏.
    PfB~

    • @tommcconville4270
      @tommcconville4270 4 года назад +1

      Paul, drill designers of seventies corps always put forth extremely creative drill/ M & M shows. Totally progressive, advanced and complex even then. Witness the excellent drill/ M &M shows of the Casper Troopers with the Sunburst maneuver. It was created by Pete Emmons, their great drill designer, and a Drum Corps Hall of Famer.

    • @tommcconville4270
      @tommcconville4270 4 года назад +1

      Yeah!!! To Balto's comment, that company front is crazy good bro!!!

  • @bobareebop
    @bobareebop 4 года назад +1

    That company front at the end of B&BF appears to fit 100% within the placement of those four front microphones. Hence the stunning recording.

  • @americanspirit8932
    @americanspirit8932 4 года назад +3

    I would just like to mention back when drum course back in the 60s early 60s through the 70s drum and bugle Corps activity was rated the the fourth largest spectator drawer event in the country that included baseball and football drum and bugle Corps Square rated fourth largest spectator drawer event also if you went by the crowds that attended competitions Bronco I had more people attending competitions then they have today example dream contest alone would have 20,000 people with DCI on a drawers maybe 20,000 if that big difference just a little background information
    I apologize for voice recognition sorry about that

  • @youdaman5069
    @youdaman5069 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great drill, song book, and execution! Much better than ‘73 which not bad but I didn’t care for the drill or flag work.

  • @jeffreydancinger2875
    @jeffreydancinger2875 6 лет назад +6

    Argonne had a really smooth sound for the time.Is there anyone out there that can explaine the drills of that era? Is there a structure like squads or they trying to keep the different voiced Bugles togther? I just see them marching around in little units and was wondering if there was a reason.

    • @nostalgia6578
      @nostalgia6578 5 лет назад +4

      Having marched drum corps in the classic era and modern era, I can tell you from experience that "old school visual/marching and maneuvering" drills were written as squads being assigned so many steps while dressing the line per how many counts or measures in each set of maneuvers. This style has its origin way back in the 1930s. This included pivot men, dressing the line so many counts before stepping off. Okay, from the sixties on forward, drill or visual started to morph into a style that college marching bands did long before drum corps did. Anaheim Kingsmen were among the first in the early 1970s to innovate in visual, merging a marching band style while still staying within the drum corps boundaries. Having marched in the modern era, visual drill nowadays, to me, is more like spitting on paper and connecting the dots! Also, each page of a show was a set where you ended up "ten steps in front of the hash mark at the 35 yard line" or anything like that. Instead of squads, you have individuals maneuvering. Musically I still cherish the old school, but for me, the spit on paper was a lot more fun. Don't knock it old farts; I'm 62 and I appreciate both eras. Except for trombones, I think all of it is "real drum corps"! 😎

    • @turkledurk
      @turkledurk 4 года назад +2

      @@nostalgia6578 just curious, what corps were you a part of recently? I'm 23, and I'm approaching my 7th year of DCA, so I'm just curious if I've seen you arround is all, haha

    • @1johncabs
      @1johncabs 4 года назад +1

      NO TEN_YARD MARKERS. Everything off the 50 and sidelines was based on INTERVALS and uniform step size.

  • @politicalsheepdog
    @politicalsheepdog 6 лет назад +9

    Was this all or mostly local kids? Even from this old recording you can tell this hornline was really good.

    • @iflybuses
      @iflybuses 4 года назад +4

      Yes, local kids from a town of 16,000. Amazing.

    • @jeffspatz1635
      @jeffspatz1635 4 года назад +4

      Almost entirely local kids. Sandra Opie gave lessons to most of the horns year by year as they joined and developed this horn line from scratch.

    • @americanspirit8932
      @americanspirit8932 2 года назад +2

      Old school drum and bugle Corps, the members were all local for the most part. And their community supported them 100%, they would March in every parade that the town had, they would perform and special events, sometimes halftime for football games, the community would volunteer to run bingo games to help support their local drum and bugle Corps. Dues at that time, would range from a dollar a day to maybe 10 to $20 for the entire year. If you could not afford to even that the organization would cover you. I was a member of the olph ridge men, from Brooklyn New York in 1956 through 1959 played snare drum, went to the Floyd Bennett golden eagles also from Brooklyn New York, 1960 and 1961. I had to leave the golden eagles due to a right hand and arm injury no longer could play it on a competitive level snare drum. I joined the Long Island sunrises in 1964 through 1968, still want to be part of the Drumline so I play symbols, but not just regular symbols the largest ones and heaviest ones used at that time. We will feature throughout the entire program from 1966 through 1968. Moe Knox, gave us the nickname, the dynamic duo, imitated but never duplicated. From Court history book volume 2 there's a photograph of the two of us in the sunrise section.

    • @DavidGlover-s7x
      @DavidGlover-s7x 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@iflybuses Blows my mind. I wish it were still the case.

    • @thomaskeller3490
      @thomaskeller3490 5 месяцев назад

      Amazing thank you so much for sharing. I marched with the Seattle Cascads in 2019 but g bugle drum corps is my favorite to watch and listen to ​@@americanspirit8932

  • @dancurrier6329
    @dancurrier6329 6 лет назад +10

    miss real drum corps.

  • @jackbrainard490
    @jackbrainard490 8 лет назад +3

    Loved the corps for that era, but honestly glad the rules have changes keeping the corps on the field for finally, these guys were playing in the shadows of the end zone.

  • @jesuspectre9883
    @jesuspectre9883 Год назад

    As a performing arts production, from anywhere in from any time period, this show is uncomfortable to watch, and just plain strange. Its severity and emotional repression of young performers looks abusive. The marchers appear to be suffering from Militant Stockholm Syndrome, same as the other corps of the time. They’re adhering to super strict military rules of step size, high leg lift and spacing and other onerous constraints. Drum corps's early militant stoicism eventually became so constrictive versus the underlying music they were playing, it led to rule changes. After all, you can’t be taken seriously playing West Side Story’s Just Met a Girl Named Maria marching like you’re off to a Civil War battle. It looks ridiculous.

    • @douglasroberts6316
      @douglasroberts6316 Год назад +5

      Somebody needs a hug .,.

    • @DavidGlover-s7x
      @DavidGlover-s7x 8 месяцев назад +2

      Luckily, your statement is the minority opinion.

    • @jesuspectre9883
      @jesuspectre9883 8 месяцев назад

      @b3vd8yn5i Come on, dude. Remember when the Troopers marched with military bearing while playing The Theme fromThe Exorcist as a drum solo around 1974? That was the beginning of the end of military bearing. The color guard looked mentally ill. They appeared to be mired in a tradition that no longer made sense. ruclips.net/video/U9Pdx8aV77Y/видео.html
      Same holds true today. It's like watching the Commandant's Own Marine Corps marching band when they're playing Proud Mary by Ike and Tina Turner, a song about "burning" marijuana. Their military bearing, coupled with the absurdly opposite underlying song lyrics about marijuana make them look mentally unstable. They appear to be prisoners of war, forced to perform nonsensical music to military-style marching. They might as well be wearing clown noses and dressed as hippos in tutus. The style of movement simply doesn't match the music. Absurd-looking, out-of-date tradition are just embarrassing.

    • @americanspirit8932
      @americanspirit8932 7 месяцев назад

      You obviously know nothing about Real Drum and bugle Corps . Sounds as though you lived a privileged life. Your first amendment rights, allow you to make such stupid comments uninformed😂😢😂