THE GAMING STORYTELLER on Successor Chapters | Astartes Anonymous Podcast #13

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @DragonsHoardOfPlastic
    @DragonsHoardOfPlastic Год назад +165

    The casual drop of "I have three" followed by you guys losing your minds was so good.

    • @b1-battledroid669
      @b1-battledroid669 Год назад +16

      Reminds me of when Lorgar was talking to Magnus about those spaceship things and just went “I built three” lol

  • @Dutch40KGuy
    @Dutch40KGuy Год назад +29

    It was so much fun to be on this podcast!! I DID make some lore mistakes as I was super tired at that point, I hope you guys don't mind too much.
    Thank you so much for having me

    • @roleff
      @roleff Год назад +3

      Love your work, Dutch 🔥🔥🔥

    • @SonnyBear5
      @SonnyBear5 Год назад +3

      Your growth is amazing! Can't believe you're a 3 time award winning painter! I JUST got into painting minis myself so this was a crazy discovery. My army is also red, but they're from Mars.

  • @Mixu.
    @Mixu. 2 месяца назад +12

    I like that Carcharadons theory. Fun way to combine my two probably favourite legions to my favourite chapter

    • @Kma99107
      @Kma99107 Месяц назад +1

      My theory was their Chapter Master is a lost Primarch it's just the Imperium doesn't want to admit it, and nobody remebers it, due to Malacador, so even their Chapter Master is a primarch and doesn't know it

  • @Mistheart101
    @Mistheart101 9 месяцев назад +32

    I really do hope Tyberos gets an updated model with the new Terminator scale.
    Btw that piece of iconic fanart of him was done by Zhi Chen, shame to see how often it gets reposted without credit.

  • @13legomania
    @13legomania Год назад +20

    Ok Pedro Cantor picking up the woman and her child is going in my top ten moments. Even in the Grim Darkness of the far future, there are nice moments.

  • @davidtrujillo1689
    @davidtrujillo1689 Год назад +24

    Fun fact about the exorcists: In the new siege of Cthonia book the defender were mainly made out of Imperial fists, but there were also a sizable force of loyalist Thousand sons, who changed their colors to signify their loyalist status to a deep blood red and black shoulders, the same colors of the exorcists first company.
    This theory is supported by the same book, the book states that after the siege of Cthonia, Evander Garrius (the Imperial fist commander in charge of the siege) took his forces on crusade during the scouring and was lost for some time.
    When they actually re apeared his forces were accompanied by red armored “sons of dorn”.
    So basically it is hinted that the exorcist are the remnants of the loyal thousand sons, that explains their unnatural resilience to daemonic possession and their high number of warp sensitive battle brothers.

    • @collecter343
      @collecter343 10 месяцев назад

      Cthonia Reckoning the book you’re talking about?

  • @TaintedTeddy
    @TaintedTeddy 29 дней назад +5

    Them talking about the sons of Medusa instantly made me think of the Jawas from star wars "they showed up and stole technology and bounced" and now I can say I'm a giant jawa 😂

  • @KillerOrca
    @KillerOrca Год назад +16

    The amount of Fist sons mentioned here does my Dornian heart good.
    In the words of the Praetorian himself: "Yes"

  • @felixedensor2392
    @felixedensor2392 Год назад +20

    I need to see a Collab between you guys and Adeptus Ridiculous. That would be amazing

    • @Arangalord
      @Arangalord Год назад +3

      Truly

    • @zarthes
      @zarthes Год назад +4

      That or LoreCrimes, those guys spend tons of time doing their research to the point they've touched on things Bricky misses.

    • @triblow_9713
      @triblow_9713 Год назад

      YES YES YES

  • @alexisbagacina6401
    @alexisbagacina6401 2 месяца назад +4

    the shield and sword of the Imperium and Dorn
    Alexis Polux and Sigismund do love how it goes hand in hand. on is reserve, pragmatic and tactical and the other is head on, inspiring and the same time lead by example of glory.

  • @magosofmars8410
    @magosofmars8410 Год назад +7

    This needs a part 2 at some point there are so many amazing chapter to talk about

  • @VaultBoyWonder
    @VaultBoyWonder Год назад +6

    Space Wolves really told the Inquisition to come back with a warrant, and I love it

  • @thesandvitchman9303
    @thesandvitchman9303 Год назад +10

    My favorite theory for the minators is that they have a link to the thunder warriors, they have the same battle tactics and not to mention the brutality in combat and not to mention there huge. And the anchient armor astetic also fits them both well.

  • @Fan_of_the_hobby
    @Fan_of_the_hobby 9 месяцев назад +9

    The contempors and box noughts can still be used as helbrutes… or just give the contmptor the primaris dread stuff

  • @V-ARY.prevEdward-L
    @V-ARY.prevEdward-L 5 месяцев назад +11

    Okay, I REALLY hope this catches your guys attention, because onto what night lords man was saying about his theory mutated tyberos being konrad curze implanted with the soul gem- I would like to add to that by shinning a light towards Horus, yes Horus, you see at some point in his life before he even met or knew of the emperor Horus was described as being....a normal human in fact verbatem, a normal child if I do exactly, feeble and genuinely unimportant seeming and most importantly he did not have any of Horus' personality, the pride, the leadership, the eye of a ruler but then later on it was a vision from the Emperor that showed him what he was WHO he was and he transforms literally TRANSFORMS into a full grown primearch no joke, and this here is the nail in the coffin alongside what was already mentioned, that IF tyberos' assumed transformation even could happen at all was in fact a concrete possibility and it genuinely has become my favorite Charcharadons theory, alongside the theory that exiled terran revengaurd alongside Sevatar prince of crows and Kharon the "coward" created the Charcharadons chapter.

  • @papaaeon7210
    @papaaeon7210 10 месяцев назад +7

    I was surprised that the whole lore of the Forgotten One and the Void Glass wasn’t brought up by Red since that also kind of supports his theory on the Space Sharks.
    A Chapter I really like is the Iron Snakes. They are Greek Inspired, but far more Athenian then anything else. They are Ultramarines that don’t follow the Codex, and their Chapter is split up into 10 Man Squads that each have an Apothecary. It’s even common practice to send singular Marines out for solo ops if the need be. Their solo book Brothers of the Snake is one of Abnett’s best, and I assume they play a larger role in the rest of the Sabbat Worlds Crusade I haven’t read yet.

  • @itsbarbon9220
    @itsbarbon9220 Год назад +9

    F in the chat for not putting Minotaurs kitbashes on the screen like he said he would but still BUSSIN episode gotta have Alex on again

  • @alphariusomegon3965
    @alphariusomegon3965 Год назад +8

    Man the Konrad theory is a new one to me. Man I wish this podcast was on Spotify

  • @loganswalk8621
    @loganswalk8621 Год назад +9

    A personal favorite successor chapter is the Raptors of Raven Guard descent where the Ravens are stealthy they still prefer surprise melee attacks The Raptors prefer to snipe and their chapter culture has modern military style making them one of the most pragmatic and sensible chapters in a galaxy full of melee obsessed glory hounds.

  • @benthomas3355
    @benthomas3355 Год назад +13

    There is another 2 theories about the Carccardons.
    1) That their chapter has chimeric Genesee from both night lords and Raven guard. The former were from loyalist elements of the Night Lords, and the later, from the most brutal members of the Raven Guard. The guys that were from terra and were exceptionally brutal.. but loyal.
    The second theory about Tyberos himself, is that he is actually a Thunder Warrior that survived the Astartes upgrade process. Think the rubricon for the thunder warriors. And since the Carccardons travel the void in stasis most of the time, he could easily have lived 10k plus years.

    • @sonicwingnut
      @sonicwingnut 10 месяцев назад +5

      There's also that theory about Asterion Moloch - that he is a surviving thunder warrior and there's actually some evidence to support it. There was a surviving thunder warrior called Arik Taranis - He survived at least up to the siege of Terra and last we saw him not only obtained some geneseed from traitor marines but had appeared to have succeeded in fixing the flaws in Thunder Warrior DNA. Assuming he survived the siege it might make sense he later emerged with a proposal for the fledgeling Lords Of Terra and offered to give them their own personal Astartes chapter. The idea of the Minotaur itself and the term Moloch are all associated with the sacrifice of children, which of course echoes the Thunder Warriors' fate. Taranis didn't actually bear the Emperor any ill will for his actions though, as he recognised as they were the Thunder Warriors were doomed anyway. The other interesting thing is that while Taranis was an underground crime lord on Terra his sigil was very, very similar to the Minotaurs' chapter symbol. It would also explain why he gave such bad vibes to a Custodes as well as explaining how he had come across one of their guardian spears.

    • @nolanbaker2360
      @nolanbaker2360 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@sonicwingnutnew headcanon

  • @blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935
    @blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 Год назад +6

    Fun Fact, in the old lore the Black Templars where believed to number 30,000 Initiates (battle brothers).
    In current lore i believe the black templars don't count their neophytes as full marines, so i reckon these 6k+ BT Initiates and 6k+ Neophytes.

  • @thearmchairjacobite2765
    @thearmchairjacobite2765 Год назад +4

    That kreigsman looks like a 17th century sweetish soldier! Its so cool

  • @cytorakdemon
    @cytorakdemon Год назад +4

    A successor chapter that's steadily became my favorite enough for me to build and paint an army of them are the Iron Snakes.
    Superstitious, non Codex Compliant Ultramarine successors, that are just classic Greek themed Space Marines.

  • @dramsac17
    @dramsac17 10 месяцев назад +13

    How sure are we that the Astral Knights aren't an Iron Warriors successor chapter? Seems kinda like something Iron Warriors would do.

  • @Lucat27
    @Lucat27 Год назад +10

    *THE RED WAKE*

  • @greenelmo7678
    @greenelmo7678 Год назад +4

    Man I really like the Konrad Curze/Tyberos theory

  • @strongcoffee2533
    @strongcoffee2533 Год назад +3

    Casual content for painting!

  • @adamm5166
    @adamm5166 Год назад +4

    Im actually about to start my Carcharodon novels, I love the space sharks!
    I didnt know about the Konrad stuff! Holy shit thats awesome! I need to read the Badab War books!

  • @KillerOrca
    @KillerOrca Год назад +3

    Nice to see so many collaba going on right now, its awesome

  • @greg_mca
    @greg_mca Год назад +4

    Lol my chosen chapter was the chapter that displaced the astral knights from their homeworld of obsidia (the sable swords chapter). The swords' first company captain just showed up and told the AK that the monastery had been transferred to them now as they didn't have enough marines to reconstitute the chapter, and any who stayed could choose to be incorporated into the sable swords. However he said that if they left and went off on a crusade and achieved great deeds they could petition their case and argue that their heroism demanded better treatment. About 30, led by a dreadnought, took up that offer and haven't yet returned

  • @Gm-ce5kg
    @Gm-ce5kg Год назад +22

    i'd personally prefer tyberos to not be resurrected conrad, because its way funnier to just have a *guy* , and the guy is just a humoungous fellow like that ,and is too dummy thicc for terminator armor

    • @nolanbaker2360
      @nolanbaker2360 5 месяцев назад

      Yes he's just a biiiiiiiig boy

  • @bobbybrenner3212
    @bobbybrenner3212 Год назад +7

    im so happy to see some world eater representation

    • @blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935
      @blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 Год назад

      The OG World Eaters (Emperors Hounds) are awsome to read about. Their still close quarters butchers but they didn't choose that style of combat for blood lust but reasoned tgat they are the toughest warriors in the galaxy that hold all the advantages, more so in hand ti hand combat so they went with it.

  • @eeriesnow
    @eeriesnow Год назад +18

    MA I'M ON TV

  • @jusquanorthwind1016
    @jusquanorthwind1016 2 месяца назад +2

    My favorite successor chapter is actually only my 4th favorite Legion/Warband/Chapter of space marine. The Lamenters. The sheer force of will that they have to still be kicking after being the chew toy of the universe while having genetic super-melancholy and ungodly bad luck. It’s so wonderfully inspiring that they stand in spite of it all. Plus despite the pain it would be to paint, I really like the simple yellow with checkerboard shoulder plate.
    Not to mention their chapter master Malakim Phoros who apparently can fall partly into the black rage in combat but still be able pull himself back from it.
    The only thing I wish they’d answer is if his death in the Badab war is true or if the rumors of him surviving are true, and if the rumors are true, if he survived the penitence crusade. (We at least know that some of the firstborn Lamenters did survive the penitence crusade because they were said to have met with the indomitus crusade to get primaris reinforcements but nothing more than that.)

  • @Channel-23s
    @Channel-23s Год назад +3

    Coolest gotta be Space Sharks and Crimson Fists black dragons but most powerful I’d say Black Templars and Exorcists (funniest I’d say Blood ravens) Honorable mention goes to Mortifactors and Flesh tearers

  • @crazymike7883
    @crazymike7883 3 месяца назад +3

    Black Tenplars are my number 2 chapter because of those moments where they go "our duty is not to the Imperium but to the people of the Imperium" and don't get me wrong they are as bad ass and uncaring as some of the other chapters can be. But they also are suprisingly human.

  • @sovietstarfishproductions5019
    @sovietstarfishproductions5019 Год назад +9

    i want to see a normal Guardsman next to Tyberos

    • @ryanlorenzo5003
      @ryanlorenzo5003 Год назад +2

      Only way you're getting that lucky guy is in pieces.

    • @JammesJack-td6gv
      @JammesJack-td6gv 5 месяцев назад

      Imagine a 3 year old bext to a adult

  • @ouch2040
    @ouch2040 Год назад +4

    Honestly the Kriegsman reminded me of a Swedish Carolean

  • @roguecarrick816
    @roguecarrick816 Год назад +7

    developed a blood angels successor with a chapter goal to GTA abaddons flagship.

    • @roguecarrick816
      @roguecarrick816 Год назад +2

      The hawks sanguine are second founding , fleet based, and trace their lineage to a company of zones mortalis specialists, during the vengeful spirit assault they got dumped near the engine spaces as opposed to where they intended to be, (glued to their mobility inclined primarch) at some point for whatever reason during one of abaddons crusades a squad of their terminators ended up on the vengeful spirit, and encountered what might have been an echo of sanguinius or may have just been ten dudes tripping collectively on warp dust. On the off chance it was sanguinius, the chapter came to the reasonable conclusion that the only thing for it was to steal abbadons flagship.

    • @definitelynotanork9520
      @definitelynotanork9520 Год назад +1

      Wouldn’t it be GTW? Grand theft warship?

    • @Captain_Bart_Peterson
      @Captain_Bart_Peterson Год назад +2

      @@definitelynotanork9520 Yes but Grant theft auto sounds funnier when talking about a warship.

  • @Channel-23s
    @Channel-23s Год назад +4

    34:05 the loop hole is a two parter same with the Space Wolfs there’s mini chapters that answer to the high marshal aka hellbrect and every time there’s a new one the Infinite/Eternal crusade is launched Praise the God Emperor
    46:30 the space sharks also beat the night lords in combat but imho them being RavenGuard is bit better them saying fuck stealth time to kill

  • @knightesquire36
    @knightesquire36 Год назад +3

    Top 10 collabs of all time

  • @mikeevans124
    @mikeevans124 Год назад +7

    Also to lend credibility to the space sharks being night lords in the book the red tithe a demon attached to a night lord calls them long lost brothers.

    • @AtakusG
      @AtakusG Год назад +1

      I'm like, 90% sure that what you're thinking of is when the chapter master of the ashen claws refered to a world eater as the brother of the reaper prime and captain of the 3rd company of Carcharodons, Bail Sharr

  • @giuseppecilluffo2033
    @giuseppecilluffo2033 5 месяцев назад +11

    Yeah, the Celestial Lions learned that you can’t say crap about the inquisition the hard way

    • @steelbear2063
      @steelbear2063 5 месяцев назад +4

      You can, but it depends on your prestige. Space Wolves were at war with the Inquisition and are still around, more so they tell them to get lost at every opportunity. And sometimes they do get lost in more ways than one

  • @CyberGhost-323
    @CyberGhost-323 11 месяцев назад +7

    Could it be that the Exorcists Chapter is either:
    1) A Grey Knight successor chapter on paper (classified by order of the Inquisition) disguised as an Imperial Fists successor chapter?
    OR
    2) Chimeric Gene-seed composed of Grey Knights and Imperial Fists?
    Your thoughts

    • @8ball279
      @8ball279 11 месяцев назад +4

      My head cannon for the exorcists is they are from Magnus Gene-Seed. Explains the mysterious origins and psyker potential. Same for the Grey Knights. The Big E’s Seed Is too much of a slippery slope.

    • @CyberGhost-323
      @CyberGhost-323 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@8ball279An interesting observation, then they'd be... cousins with the Blood Raven and Thousand Sons?

    • @gortis1104
      @gortis1104 7 месяцев назад +1

      Wait why the fist?

    • @nolanbaker2360
      @nolanbaker2360 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@gortis1104 that's the official parent legion

  • @dragonjaj
    @dragonjaj Год назад +5

    what if Tiberous is the night lord promarch in disgise trying to redem him self after faking his death or just coming back from death

  • @rimanahbvee
    @rimanahbvee Месяц назад +5

    ikea kriegsman is just a Carolean soldier lol

    • @gokbay3057
      @gokbay3057 26 дней назад

      I was thinking the same lol.

  • @YourHighnessIV
    @YourHighnessIV Месяц назад +4

    I just finished the night lords Omnibus.. am I allowed to make art of Talos in his "room" I feel like I'm not XD

  • @Night_Haunter
    @Night_Haunter Год назад +6

    Please do the collab with Live from the black libarary

  • @thomasmixon6880
    @thomasmixon6880 Год назад +5

    Did the room get a little emptier and a lot better?

  • @simoncampoy4131
    @simoncampoy4131 5 месяцев назад +3

    Holy shit I've never heard of tyberos being Conrad before.

  • @woodchuck94og
    @woodchuck94og 10 месяцев назад +6

    The only named exorcist i know is Merrin Dragomir

    • @FackFaceMcAcehole
      @FackFaceMcAcehole 10 месяцев назад

      The founding chapter master was Enoch Trismegistus, I forget the current, and the upcoming chapter master is Silas Alberec (who is as big as Tyberos).

    • @RogueSceptile
      @RogueSceptile 3 месяца назад

      Darrion Rauth is an exorcist and a member of Talon squad, a deathwatch kill team.

  • @blackdragonxtra
    @blackdragonxtra Год назад +4

    Wait, are the Exorcists actually successor chapter of the Word Bearers?

  • @edgieststalker8141
    @edgieststalker8141 Год назад +3

    Yooooo this collab is so good

  • @Colonel_Jurten
    @Colonel_Jurten Год назад +4

    Ey its ma boi

  • @yopoxikeweapescai9066
    @yopoxikeweapescai9066 9 месяцев назад +19

    LAMENTERS >>>>>>>>>>

  • @akuma6278
    @akuma6278 Год назад +6

    Is Tyberus taller then Polux? Cuz I could swear that in-lore Guliiman was shocked by Polux because Polux was nearly as tall as Gulliman

    • @Nostroman_Praetor
      @Nostroman_Praetor Год назад +2

      Tyberos is indeed taller then Polux. He's such a mutant I don't think he made it past the scout company by being sneaky.
      The reason I suspect such is because even though Polux met Big G at eye level, Pollux still fit into MKIV armor even if it had to be modified a little.
      Tyberos meanwhile has custom fitted terminator armor that needed to be refit with dreadnought armor just so it fit him meaning he could not fit in a standard marine's warplate. Tyberos is probably taller then even some Primarchs.

    • @akuma6278
      @akuma6278 Год назад +2

      @@Nostroman_Praetor I dunno because back then Space Marine Legions were massive having thousands if not tens of thousands of tech-marines and multiple forge worlds dedicated to just pumping out armor for said legions, so the variety of sizes back then might be more then modern 40k due to the even wider variety of marines in the HH, with the amount of space marines in the current setting thats less then legion in 30k and thus less variety of armors and armor sizes, girlyman is almost if not taller then a dreadnought while Tyberos is smaller then one, so to meet girlyman at almost eye level you have to be taller then Tyberos

  • @abyssalvoid4644
    @abyssalvoid4644 Год назад +2

    Finally another head for the wall lol

  • @SeanCrosser
    @SeanCrosser Год назад +6

    I'll admit that I'm a Grey Knights fan so it could be envy, but I think The Exorcists being "Grey Knights but better" is stupid. Loyalist chapters like the Flame Falcons got immediately exterminated without any actual contact with daemons, and here's The Exorcists written to have Inquisitor-sanctioned one-night stands with demons and it's all fine "because they'll put those Mary Sues in their place"
    My brother in the Emperor, YOU put the Mary Sues up there.
    The Grey Knights were made to be a force of elite daemon-killers, deployed only when a demon-involved event will imminently go tits-up. So yeah they'll show up and do their all to stop that, because when they don't, entire worlds get turned to Demon Worlds. And no one ever mentions how those Mary Sue victories comes at the steep cost of many of the deployed Grey Knights. "Of course the Mary Sues chapter can have ONE MARINE defeat Angron" bruh they deployed 120 GKs, and lost like 100 of that number to just BANISH Angron.

    • @socialyawkwardandrew7673
      @socialyawkwardandrew7673 Год назад +1

      Cope

    • @alphariusalpharius3921
      @alphariusalpharius3921 Год назад +2

      Yeah but what about a single grey knight beating a daemon primarch in the warp?

    • @Pirigo13
      @Pirigo13 Год назад +3

      The Grey Knights were dealt a bad hand when it comes to likability due to Matt Ward, and the Grey Knights' role in the Months of Shame. Additionally, the Grey Knights kind of feel like an anti-everything chapter that happens to be deployed against daemons; The Exorcists feel more like specialized anti-daemon chapter, in that they aren't as powerful as generalists.
      I also can't understate how the Grey Knights' "No witnesses" policy in the Months of Shame made them look like grimdumb lapdogs of the Inquisition... it honestly ruined the Grey Knights for me. I think the bottom line is that the Grey Knights need some lore written by better writers, I guess.

    • @The.Orange.Wizard
      @The.Orange.Wizard Год назад +2

      ⁠@@alphariusalpharius3921Yeah, it’s like an Ultramarine beating a C’tan shard with a sword and defending it by saying that shard killed 100 other marines, it just makes that one marine extra special.

    • @KCUFyoufordoxingme
      @KCUFyoufordoxingme 2 месяца назад

      100 defeating a primarch greater demon? Oh is that all. So one little 1000 man group could fight all 4 chaos primarchs at once and probably Abaddon too, lose 700 Marines, and you would defend it.

  • @nikoazure5235
    @nikoazure5235 Год назад +2

    "let someone else carry you"

  • @NemesisMinis
    @NemesisMinis Год назад +3

    Wasn't typhus beaten then by GM Voldus

  • @ARKWOLF20000
    @ARKWOLF20000 Год назад +3

    First?

  • @ryanexsus
    @ryanexsus 3 месяца назад +1

    Flesh Fuckin Tearers.

  • @Mger47TheGamePegasus
    @Mger47TheGamePegasus Год назад +6

    Will you ever have arch warhammer on?

    • @popsiclemoon
      @popsiclemoon Год назад +5

      Most channels don't want to associate with a nazi.

    • @knightesquire36
      @knightesquire36 Год назад +5

      ​@@popsiclemoonIf arch is the modern definition of a nazi, then the definition of that word must have changed

    • @theemperorschosen7607
      @theemperorschosen7607 Год назад +3

      ​@@knightesquire36
      Just general racist then. His discord isn't what I'd call a lovely place.

    • @knightesquire36
      @knightesquire36 Год назад

      ​@@theemperorschosen7607 fair nuff

    • @huelads740
      @huelads740 Год назад +2

      @@popsiclemoon int 1 take ngl there chief.