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Use Your Google Home With Your Home Theater Speakers
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2019
- Use Your Google Home With Your Home Theater Speakers
If you're wondering how to connect existing Home Theater speakers to your Google Home and then control them, here's how you do it. This becomes a great option for anyone who also has speakers in your wall or in your ceiling that are existing and haven't been integrated with your Google Home speaker groups.
The receiver I purchased is the Onkyo TX-NR585 with Google Chromecast. It's here (affiliate link): geni.us/0V73uA (Amazon)
The critical parts here was that it was a wired or wireless (I can choose) receiver with Google Chromecast and integration with Google Assistant. Any receiver with those components will work, but mine was relatively inexpensive for a 7.2 system with 2 zones. I love it, and it's also Airplay compatible, which my wife loves.
Your #GoogleHome and your #HomeTheater system are a match made in heaven, and this is what Google was planning all along. Enjoy!
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The Echo Input is currently on sale for $19.95 (04/21/2019) and is much better suited to AV system integration because it has a 3.5mm audio out jack for direct connection to an AV receiver. Of course, if you are already invested in the Google home world, it's not going to do you much good. If not, it's a much more efficient way to go.
BTW - Great explanation of Google integration.
Can you cast from the multitude of apps to an Echo Input? I haven’t tried one yet.
Best to use optical audio input on your home theater, it makes a difference, the Chromecast audio used to have and optical output.
@@AutomateYourLife The Input works exactly like the Dot. The only difference I am aware of is the absence of a speaker on the Input. The Input is not a casting device like Chromecast.
This is a great video Brian and it helped me a lot! Thanks!! I wanted a better sound in my living room and keep using all my existing Google Nest speakers across my home for multiroom instead of replacing with Sonos, Heos, etc. Lagging across speakers was a concern so I followed your advice and got a barebone Onkyo TX-NR474 with Chromecast built in and it is working like a charm.
As a side note, I have tested a Chromecast 2nd gen dongle in the HDMI port just to check if there was a lag... And indeed there was some lag... Maybe it can be corrected using lag correction settings but I didnt bother :). Cheers
Cheers!
What if I want to cast to only zone 2 in a receiver, have you seen this as an option that will allow me to ask Google to cast to zone 2 the primary zone (without the receiver remote)?
I haven't seen that as an option. I had to change my receiver to that zone if I wanted to do that. You could do it with an IR blaster like SwitchBot or another that you're familiar with.
I have the Onkyo TX-NR656. It worked great for this and as part of a speaker group. Two days ago I upgraded the firmware and it messed up the speaker timing. Now music plays on the receiver approximately 300ms sooner on the receiver than all my other devices/speakers. Since the max adjustment Google let's you adjust is 200ms, this update messed up a great setup. I have tried everything to get it to work including using a different network. I am calling Onkyo to see if there is a way to go back to my last rev. Casting to the receiver still works great, but not as part of a speaker group. I am sure Onkyo will fix with the next firmware rev.
Oh my...well I won’t be updating then, but thanks for your comment!
I called Onkyo and they said there is no way to go back to a previous version of firmware. They also said that they have not been getting reports of this so don't know if this is an isolated incident. The latest firmware is very new with updates for Airplay 2 so most people probably have not gone to it yet if they ever will. I may have to stop using the built-in Chromecast and buy a Chromecat ultra or find a Chromecast Audio somewhere. Hopefully the next rev of firmware will help when it comes out. I did try everything I could think of to make sure it was the receiver including using another router to create another separate network and resetting to factory settings.
Ugly situation! I just saw the release for Airplay 2 on your 656...but I'll be sure to mention this for people when I talk about the update!
how can i control a old(non smart) BOSE cinema system with google assistent? what device i need? i also have a vcr 😀
A non smart one can usually have a Chromecast audio plugged into it for audio use. Otherwise, you could use a Harmony hub or other IR blaster!
So, to clarify, if I have a non Chromecast old stereo amp, I can plug a Chromecast device into it or the tv to control it?
I don’t know if you have run into this yet. I have the same Receiver as you but I can’t add it to a room and it won’t seem to talk to Google home. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks for the video.
Hey Shiner - Sadly I don't have this in my home anymore so I can't test it. I'd check in with support.google.com to see if they have any insight!
@@AutomateYourLife thanks for the speedy response. I did figure it out. I had to do a factory reset now works just fine.
Brian, when I go into More Settings and Services on the iPhone Google app, I do not see TV and Speakers.
Geez...would you look at that. Google's removed it. Go into Videos and Photos and then tap on the words Chromecast Built-In TV under the Photos section. You can also just add the device now as well. Wow....
Love the Yzerman pic
👍👍😁😁
"Process" sounds so much better pronounced as "pro-sess"!!!
Concur
Am I correct in saying that your kitchen and upstairs speakers are connected to the same receiver? I.e. once the receiver is setup with google home I can see all the speakers and group them in any combination I like via google home? Thanks for your video. Extremely informative.
Hi Gary, thanks! So...my Kitchen speakers are a single Google "speaker" in the Google Home app, so sadly you can't split them out. You'd have to change modes on the receiver to do that. I have wall controllers too to help with splitting my speakers.
My upstairs speakers is a Google home group that includes my receiver and other Google home speakers. So that's actually additional.
Thanks for your quick reply. So are both ‘sets’ of speakers (kitchen and upstairs) running from the same receiver?
Unless your AV/Stereo has google assistant or chrome cast build in
Right. Right :)
Hi!
I know this is an old video, and no recent comments.
But, I thought I'd see if you would respond to me anyway.
(Good video though)
I have a question!
I have two google home maxes that I have paired up.
They sound great!
But I'm wanting to add more speakers.
I have some older good speakers, but they are from an older system that I have not used in many years.
Not Bluetooth or anything like that! Lol
I now want to add them to my 2 google maxes if it is possible.
But these are WIRED speakers.
Literally.
The speaker has the screw tabs where you tighten a bare wire or loosen it. To connect or not connect.
You know what I mean?
My question is...
Is there anyway I can connect them to my google home maxes?
The google home has an aux port.
I bought an adapter and plugged my wired speaker into the aux port of the google speaker.
That doesn't work.
Everything just stops playing. Shuts off.
I thought it would work.
Why have an aux port for sound if it doesn't work?
Anyway... is there anyway you can help me?
Jon
The short answer is this is very unlikely. But maybe you're just over ratings? Try one and remove other speakers and see.
Otherwise, I never had the Max. So I can't tell you how to use that
can you add google asistent to it
Not to the receiver no, but you could use a few commands with it. Since it's a cast device though it doesn't have a lot of control.
Hi I'm interested in using this receiver and google home to control a 4 zone speaker system, is this possible? can you use google home voice commands to turn the Receiver on and off?
Hey Josh - So this one works with 2 Zones (specs). You'd need 2...per the specs! However...what I'll say is that I'm trying to use it to do a similar thing. I'll let you know if it works out, but it would mean you couldn't have a 5.1 or something around your TV itself and then control the 4 zones. You'd have to basically just connect the 4 zones (provided you have enough wires).
I've been able to turn on and off the receiver, but mostly just through asking it to play. The receiver itself would turn on if you asked it to play.
Great thanks, I'm not concerned about the 5.1 as we have another rec for the tv. Just wondering if you designate each channel of the 5.1 as its own zone, and if so can they all play on their own and all at the same time.@@AutomateYourLife
Hi Brian, Can I cast my video to the projector and the sound to my audio chromecast ?
Sadly you can't split the streams casting at this point. You have to hardware do this
Thank you Brian for inspiration and your feature finding tutorials. The ceiling speakers are just the ticket for 'invisible' sound. I want that.
Let's just say running cable from a receiver is tricky and let's just say that the sound we want to share comes from the TV whether it's showing a satellite channel or streaming service. (We''ve seen this in hotel rooms where say, you can still keep up with the news or the film that's playing in the bathroom or kitchen). In 2020 I can group my Google gadgets and play Spotify anywhere in the building. Have you any thoughts on how an Android TV could send TV sound wirelessly outside of the TV room?
Well that Android TV (new version coming) is supposed to have the Google Home App, the YT Music App, and it seems like Google is prepping to have it cast to other cast enabled speakers. Plus you can use receivers like this to cast out!
I think the near future is really friendly for what you're after sir :)
Can this receiver output to Google Home devices? As in, if I connect a Chromecast via HDMI and cast a video, will the sound for the video play through the connected Google Homes? Trying to figure out how to make a home theater setup with two stereo-paired Google Home Maxes and two stereo-paired Google Home Minis (2nd Gen) without getting nasty latency issues.
Short answer. No. Google is moving in this direction though.
Is there a way to give those (e.g. multiple Google Home Minis, Smartphone, ...) different listening commands?
So that if I can choose (with the command) if my smartphone answers or the Google Home Mini.
Hi there, you're going to have to clarify a bit more here. Are you talking about just playing different audio on different groups (totally doable with different music services or a family plan)? Or are you talking about answering phone calls? Duo works this way, but not normal calls.
Is there any way to use these speakers as 5.1/7.1 surround system?
Wireless Surround is what I'm looking for.
Hi Kartik - That's going to depend on your receiver entirely. You're looking for this to attach to your TV?
If you had an optical out of your TV, and a Chromecast sitting in your TV, you could go into your Receiver and then have it control speakers like that. I used to do this with an older speaker set on one of my TVs. Look for what inputs your receiver has for sound from a TV and then you'll find your solution.
Thank you Brian, I have a quick question. I have an Onkyo LS3100 sound system with Bluetooth. I’m not able to connect the onkyo to the google home how would I be able to go around this issue?
That one's just a Bluetooth connection. The special thing about some receivers is they have a Built-In Chromecast or Built-in Cast. That's what you'd need to connect it in.
You could connect it to a speaker through Bluetooth though, I'm sure.
@Erick Cuevas, open Google Home App.
Enable Bluetooth on both your smartphone and Onkyo Receiver
Select a Google Home Mini speaker closest to your Onkyo Receiver.
Click the gear icon at the top right to access settings for the Google Home Mini speaker.
Select Audio -->Select Default Music Speaker-->Select Pair Bluetooth Speaker.
Pair the Onkyo Receiver with the Google Home Mini. (Follow the instructions that came with the Onkyo Receiver)
Select Groups and add the Google Home Mini speaker to your Home Speaker Group, that is, if you want to do that.
Now, whenever you play music through the Google Home Mini speaker, you will hear the sound through Onkyo Home Theatre.
Thank you Brian great information I did not know there was a built-in Chromecast Theatre system available I use a 5.1 optic socket I just mirror my phone and can do it that way but that is really cool what you've shown here I'm always on the lookout Brian so that's something new I have learnt I have bought a audio Chromecast so I guess that would work just as well?
Yep! That'll work too as long as you can plug it into a receiver!
So if my receiver doesn't have Chromecast built-in I can just plug one in right?
Depends on the receiver, but you should be able to do that. Will it switch inputs automatically? That's up to the receiver and available settings....
Hello! Big fan! I had a question. Are Onkyo the only built in chrome cast receivers? I just started my google smart home set up and I am looking for the receiver for me that is chrome cast/google compatible. Thanks in advance
They aren't! There are many different receivers out there that will work! You want to, if you can, find one that says Chromecast Built-In, but there are many and they go up and down in terms of quality and features. :)
@@AutomateYourLife many? From what I've gathered from hours of research it's just onkyo and pioneer which are basically the same
A little hard to follow (for me) will have to watch it a few more times to get my head around the setup. Would this work with a chromecast plugged into the back of my samsung surround sound 5.1 blueray home theatre which runs on the arc channel of my TV?
It would! It does depend a little bit on your system now, but should work just fine.
@@AutomateYourLife Thanks for the hint Brian, will give it a try - I'm guessing I will need to make some sort of "scene" to power on the blu-ray player independantly (without the TV being involved) - I have the Lenovo 10 inch screen and a broadlink mini 3 -maybe with ITTT I could say "play spotify on the stereo" - or am I overthinking it? - cheers from downunder
The real question is...does your receiver switch inputs when it starts to get a signal? You could control it a couple different ways then. For example, you could power on the Chromecast through a smart plug. I also wonder if you could cause your TV to switch on based on the Chromecast providing video. See, whenever I ask something to play on my Chromecast plugged into my TV, it switches my TV input. I would expect your receiver to do the same.
Your idea works totally too and I don't think it's overthinking it! You just might have one easier option if you can get things to switch based on signal input.
@@AutomateYourLife Thanks again mate, I'll try a few things and report back if I have success.
HI Brian, how can I use this receiver to cast a connected turntable through my Google home group? Thank you
I can't figure out a way in my head....if the app doesn't have an option to Cast or to Bluetooth.
Hi Brian, I have 3 rooms with a pair of ceiling speakers in each. Would this set up work for my 3 rooms? The wiring for each pair comes back to a single location in one of the rooms.
That sounds ideal!
@@AutomateYourLife Is it possible to integrate each of the three rooms individually into the Google Home app and control them individually?
I've just bought the google nest mini, it's a pain in the ass to get it working properly, I have an android Philips tv with Chromecast built-in, a Ndivia shield tv pro, hue lightbulbs, a Philips soundbar also with Chromecast build in... The only thing it controls well are my lights. If I ask to turn on my shield it powers off my tv and when I ask to power on my tv I get the message that it doesn't support ... I also have a pioneer AV 7.1receiver sadly no Chromecast built-in. Is there a way to control it?
Is your Shield going through your receiver? I feel like something strange is happening here.
I'd be interested in hearing if you plugged the shield into the TV directly what happened. After that, I might talk to Philips and see if their built in Chromecast actually is. That's one of the big points of those.
@@AutomateYourLife Hi thanks for replying. my shield and tv topbox are connected to my receiver and have their dedicated output, topbox vrc output, shield video output. strange thing .. I've asked google to play music on Spotify and she replayed with "ok, would you like me to play it on your shield" but if I ask to power on or of my shield she says that she can't ...
Hi I have a Yamaha RX V581, it has music cast (not chrome cast) will this work?
Not in the same way, no. I don't believe you will be able to add it to groups.
Hey Brian, I have an LG smart TV with chromecast ultra and pipe its audio through a Samsung digital receiver. The chromecast let's me add then TV and its audio output to my Google Home Speaker group, and for audio it works fine, I can't get the audio to work with video cast to the chromecast, or with my PVR. Do I need a different receiver?
How are you piping the audio to the receiver? I would think if you came out with an optical out to the receiver, it should all work!
@@AutomateYourLife yup, then tv connects to the receiver via optical, but its a fairly old receiver (built in DVD player) so I'm wondering if I need a new receiver to use my nest and home speakers for home theatre?
If you're going out from Audio Out, it sounds like maybe your TV isn't sending the optical out in this case...it sounds more on the TV?
Well, it's the TV that's connecting to the speaker group (via chromecast), so the speakers attached to the receiver aren't actually attached to the speaker group directly.
The Home support people say this chromecaat (ultra) can't play audio from video, so I figured I'd just bypass it and use then 5.1 in addition to my new Nest setup for home theatre, I'm just missing a step to let the Nest speaker group join the 5.1?
I had one question I have an amplifier connecting several ceiling speakers in my home and I wanted to connect with Chromecast since audio is discontinued I can't seem to buy it , so I thought of buying HDMI splitter to connect the regular Chromecast , will this work?
Yes you use a HDMI audio extractor like this
Gowoops 1080P Mini HDMI2HDMI Audio HD Converter HDMI to HDMI Audio Extractor Adapter switcher Video Audio Converter Adapter for PC Laptop HDTV Projector www.amazon.com/dp/B07GN9RHV4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_taa_KGzVCbZDEQBBH
I don't see why not...but the only thing is sometimes splitters and cables can cause the wake function to not work. Just watch that and you should be fine. :)
@@KeyBored101 yes I ordered similar splitter from AliExpress
@@AutomateYourLife thanks
Hi from Italy. I have been watching your videos and appreciate the way you explain in a simple and easy manner.
Have you done a video on Google wifi?
I would like to know if I can hook up to my ethernet the further nodes to have a better coverage and have the backhaul traffic via ethernet. No one explains this function.
Thanks and keep making great videos
Hi there - Thanks! I'll keep making them! Unfortunately, I don't think that I'll ever have the Google WiFi product as it stands today. :) I'm likely to buy the new Nest Hub Max when it comes out and that'll start my mesh life I think! We'll see though.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean but have you looked into ubiquti wi-fi access points? They are long range wifi points that can be connected via Ethernet cable.
I have an Onkya TX-NR3010 Reciever with Google Chromecast Audio (+Google Chromecast Ultra) attached as it doesn't have Bluetooth. I want to stream my Google Home through the Onkya via the Chromecast Audio. However, under Services on my iPhone, TV's & Speakers doesn't appear as an option!!! Any ideas on what to do?
When I hit play it shows up as an option for me. Just on the main page :). It also shows on the main page as an icon of a speaker
@@AutomateYourLife On all the videos I've seen and all the online help articles I've read it appears to be the case that it is listed as an option - with the exception of my device that strangely doesn't display the TCs & Speakers option on the list, or anywhere else for that matter. I'd attach a screenshot to this blog but it doesn't give me the option to display an image.
@@AutomateYourLife Even though TVs & Speakers doesn't show up, I've still managed to get it connected! Yaaieee!
Come on over to community.automatelife.net and ask there. There are lots of folks to help! Mind you, I see you have it fixed. :)
Hi Brian! Thanks for the video! I have 4 pairs of (non-smart) Polk Audio ceiling speakers that are wired to a central location. Would this receiver allow me to control each pair of speakers separately via Google Home? Thanks!
Hey Marissa, This specific receiver didn't support switching between the 2 zones with your voice. Now, there are a LOT of IR controllers out on the market that could give you that command capability. So that's how I'd do it I think today (if I still had that house)!
SwitchBot has a hub mini that has an IR controller, and so does Broadlink. Those are probably good things to try at this point!
@@AutomateYourLife awesome - thank you so much for your quick response and recommendations! Going to look in to both of these now!
@@roobarry watch our brand new video for a discount on SwitchBot 😃
@@AutomateYourLife I am pretty green when it comes to tech, so just wondering whether this would work: would I need to buy an IR speaker selector (i.e.: www.amazon.ca/OSD-Audio-ATM-7-Speaker-Selector/dp/B004Y8MH3M) and then use the SwitchBot mini hub as the connection to Google Home? And if I did this, would the SwitchBot allow me to control each speaker separately via Google Home? Or would you suggest something else altogether? Thanks again for your help - really appreciate it!
Hey Marissa - so SwitchBot's hub mini would work just like any remote you have when placed within view of the receiver.
So it would go like this: Google command to turn on Zone X speakers - SwitchBot Hub -> Shoots IR signal to Receiver -> Receiver changes to those speakers
The link wasn't working for what you sent there, but that would work instead of the receiver I showed here too if it fits the connectors/speakers you have! :)
My sonos don't show up to be added to a a speaker group
No and it won't. You'll need to put it as the default speaker for one of your Google home speakers and then connect them by Bluetooth.
@@AutomateYourLife I don't think sonos sound bar has bluetooth. I got excited about the reply .. I've been trying for the past hour and I think I gave up.
I wanted to have the sound out of the new Google chromecast tv to play over the sonos sound bar in addition to the many google home minis I have
Just buy a chromecast audio and connect it to your old receiver no need to buy a new receiver.
Google discontinued it.
Or if the receiver has Bluetooth you can connect it that way.
You can do it all these ways, but I think the receiver is the most reliable and easy to use way I've come across.
@@chirag_khurana Yes they did, but it is still sold in most countries - so buy it now :-) They just want you to buy their bigger speakers which doesn't even make sense, since they can't compete with a receiver with mediocre/good speakers
@@AnonymousUser77254 You could, but the chromecast audio connects though wifi which is a much better/flexible solution.
Are you in western Ontario?
I am not Ryan sorry ;)
You seem to gear most of your videos to IPHONE. I feel sure that there are more ANDROID users than there are IPHONE. Sometime you say that you will later in the video tell more about how to do it in ANDROID but whatever you later say is pathetically short. I do not mean to say that I do not learn from and enjoy your videos very much because I do. I would just like to encourage you to attune your videos a bit more to ANDROID.
I think really when you think about it mate they're all based on the same thing or though you are tied down to Apple in which I hate so Android is always my favourite because you can do what you like with it
But as you say Brian does some great videos and they're based around the same thing I mean this guy works tirelessly to provide us with the latest information so he has a lot to get through and I'm sure Brian eventually will talk about Android but I really can't see a difference in the software when it comes to Google home anyway buddy have a good day:-)
Hey Bruce - I hear ya! I’d like to move a little towards Android in the future...but I will echo the comments below: there really is no discernible difference between the way stuff like this works. Maybe the menu in GH once in a while. :)
Isn't Google Play finishing?
Google Play Music is ending but RUclips Music is taking over, it didn't really make sense to have both anyway as far as I can see.
Agreed!
Will this work with a Chromecast Ultra plugged into the back of an older Yamaha home theatre receiver?
Yes, I was worried when I bought my Ultra because I had no confirmation that the feature had been added to it yet but if you're wanting it to show up as a cast device to be added to speaker groups, yes it can. As a speaker group cast target though it only works with music cast apps like RUclips Music, not standard RUclips.
@@futurecactus I just remembered though that I subscribe to Apple Music, which I take it doesn't support Chromecast.
@@jspaceman71 can't help you there, I use Android so I have no idea.
Does the receiver power on via Google assistant?
I can make it do so by starting a cast
And actually, I haven't tried but I think you can
Did you heard the news that Chromecast will now support Prime Videos ?
It's sort of already does I can load Amazon Prime using my voice and it will load prime on my TV 📺
The only thing is you can't do is ask for a particular movie at this time but I'm sure they will bring it into effect eventually
Hey Google load video Prime and it should come up like mine
@@Paul-Mellow bro how ?? I can't find the cast option yet in my prime video app yet .
@@chirag_khurana, hello bro if you have a built-in Chromecast on your TV then you're good to go also it depends on your TVs firmware I've actually got a Sony Bravo Ultra 4k 60 inch with Android installed although they're very slow in updating the firmware so if you have an Android TV and you're connected to Google it will work sorry I should have explained that in my last post hope that helps buddy
Also it works with a normal Chromecast if you have prime video installed on your TV
@@Paul-Mellow I have a Chromecast built in TV ( IFFALFON 55' 4K) it runs on Android 8.0 but I can't seem to find Prime video on play store instead I have downloaded it's mod from web but it crashes every 15-20 minutes .
i have my on receiver do not need a need a new one
You can always look at a Chromecast to plug in your existing receiver too!
Can I actually plug a Chromecast directly into my stereo amp?!
Nice video, very informative for the Google part. The first 5mins was worthless lol.
Agree :-) Here is a great tips. Assistant is to limited, you cant say move music to device/speaker group- but if you say Play spotify on "speaker group" it will move music and continue where you left off 😁
your home theater would be connected to your TV .. Just use your chromecast... Done ... This is silly setup
Not everyone has that kind of a setup, nor a good optical out from their TV. Not silly, just not for you!
@@AutomateYourLife optical is optical ... and if you got a google home then most likey you have a home theater system with optical to your tv majority of the time...
www.cnet.com/news/what-is-audio-return-channel-arc/
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What's fake Arjun?