That is awesome! When I used the RGB to VGA adapter, it just looked dark and the colors were washed out no matter what I did with the brightness. That was on my first monitor and TV - I did not try it on my BENQ monitor. I have great luck with that with Amiga's, even though it is not one that works at 15 Khz
I just got one of these and look forward to getting it going. Thank you for the menu settings and options as most of the videos do not show that and with the Chinese, I would not have a clue haha. I love the amiga video's as I have pulled my old amiga 500 out of the basement and revamping it.
My A500 is going to go in your A1500 case, and I do hope I can get the GBS8220 to fit inside somewhere. Maybe grab the RGB signals right off the 23 pin header internally with some little chip clips. That would be pretty sweet!
It all depends on how you are hooking it up. If you use the VGA connector, I have never gotten anything but garbage results. Using a custom RGB connection works OK, but if you get an RGB to Component connector you can get really nice results
Thanks for the video - it was very informative. I'm currently in the hunt for a monitor that supports 15KHz but I'm curious to know your opinion on what gives the best performance, a 15KHz monitor via RGB or using a GBS-8220 with a regular monitor?
15 Khz via RGB all day long. The colors pop so much more than they do going through the GBS-8220 device. I have an Acer LCD that works great at 15Khz, and I use it quite a bit. I use my GBS-8220 for testing and very occasionally video capture.
Cobbled together a cable this evening with a 25 pin cut down to 23, soldered up to the same cable you did, and got it working fairly well with minimal configuration. I did have to adjust the levels on the 3 onboard pots, and then adjust the screen vertical position (mine was on 20, but needed to be zero). I didn't change anything else and I got an acceptable output on my NEC 1970NX I use on my other retro machines (the monitors will do 15khz no problem, but I was wanting to try the 8220 that's been on the shelf for months). I may end up with a more expensive setup, but the 8220 is sufficient for the short-term. If you end up with a good supply of the 23 pin female connectors, I'd definitely be interested in a couple, while the hacked off connector does work, I prefer to use the correct hardware, lol.
That is so great! That is the best adjective I can come up with, too. Acceptable. Certainly not bad for the price. I have not heard back from my distributor on the 23 pin connectors yet. I will call them next week.
Isn't that funny? I still have a great 1902 monitor that I use in 80 columns on my C128, and I look forward to retiring it. I just love seeing our old tech display on a nice, new LCD screen. I totally get where you are coming from, though. Hope your CRT's last for years!
10 Minute Amiga Retro Cast I’m really lucky as there is a crt guru that lives around 10 minutes from me...he does all the chassis servicing for most of the people in the U.K. with arcade cabs😊 It’s my passion for arcades is the main reason I can’t let crts go🙄🙄
@@Sinisteve that is so nice! It is hard to find anyone who works on CRT's. We had one guy left in Tucson that I knew about, but he retired a few years back.
Perhaps there are differences between GBS-8220s out there as mine was utter garbage regardless of the settings. I will say I had to try three different power supplies before I found one that didn't introduce considerable noise but thst couldn't save it from going in the trash. It worked enough to check the integrity of some old harddrives and disks but I didn't want to use it for anything else because thr image quality was so poor. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. If I used any other retro systems beyond my Amigas I may have held onto it for testing purposes only.
I certainly get what you are saying. I have heard there are some really junk clones of this that circulate out there and pretend to be the original. I certainly don't have too many complaints about the quality that comes out of mine, as I said in the video it is not as good as the $150 solutions, but I never expected it to be. mine is perfectly usable and the screen quality is at least a C+ in my book.
Nice. Got my AMIGA500 Rev6A/ACE2/ACA500Plus/ACA1221EC on a 49 inch Panasonic LEDLCD TV 4:3 with a A520 Composite in PAL High Res Laced 50Hz 16 Colour.. Running AmigaOS 3.1.4 / BestWB with a 16GB CF and a 16GB CF AUX. Got a RGB Commodore 1084S-P1 but is dead. Maybe i get a Indivision ECS and a Acer LCD V226HQL model / VGA 1440 :x 288 H: 15kHz V: 50Hz Waiting for the Vampire 500 V4 for HDMI 720p and for SAGA/68080 and more FAST RAM. Got also a Wicher500i Rev2a bit have a limited to 8MB FAST RAM than the Rev2c. Use it with the AMIGA 500+ Rev8A board with WB 3.1 / BetterWB. Today i get the A590 with SCSI2SD v5.0 and 8GB microSD on WB 1.3. Maybe i get it work on AmigaOS 3.1.4 or WB 3.1.
Bought an enclosed unit off a guy on Amibay, never did work. Tried your settings and all I get is garbled greenish/yellow screens. Nothing more. He tells me my power supply is wrong but same as yours 5v, 2a. Was robbed I believe. Main menu screen displays though, so his accusation of frying my unit is bull.
Well that is odd. Do you have a 23 pin to 15 pin converter? Mine works connected to the VGA in on the GBS-8220, just not as nice. I have hard that there are some cheap knockoff products that really don't work well at all. I am sure you have cycled thru all the inputs, I know I had an issue figuring which input to use at first, since I did not get video at all until I tweaked the settings. The good news is a replacement board is super cheap on Amazon, and at least you got a case and cable out of it if we can't get it to work!
10 Minute Amiga Retro Cast i have that convertor, do you mean to use instead of Gbs? I do have other means of connecting amiga to monitors but was hoping to get this to work.
@@davidwright9166 my GBS-8220 has a VGA input and VGA output. I was able to go from my adapter to the VGA input of the GBS-8220. It worked fine with no actual tweaking required, but the image quality was not quite as good. It was flicker free, though. Maybe yours for not have the VGA input?
Ha A 23 pin female connecter is as rare as hens teeth these days and even Amiga Kit cannot get them and have had to cut down their 25 pin connector to make their 23 pin to 9 pin adaptors
This istrue. But my friend in Canada who makes the RGB to component adapters says that he has somebody in the United States that is making them brand new.
Thanks for the shoutout, Doug!
I just bought a dell ultrasharp 2001FP for $20 and an adapter on amibay to go from RGB to VGA and it just works.
That is awesome! When I used the RGB to VGA adapter, it just looked dark and the colors were washed out no matter what I did with the brightness. That was on my first monitor and TV - I did not try it on my BENQ monitor. I have great luck with that with Amiga's, even though it is not one that works at 15 Khz
I just got one of these and look forward to getting it going. Thank you for the menu settings and options as most of the videos do not show that and with the Chinese, I would not have a clue haha.
I love the amiga video's as I have pulled my old amiga 500 out of the basement and revamping it.
They do a fair job, and can be updated with a bit of hardware to do an even better job.
Great review as ever, I have ordered one to see if it works in the new case :-)
My A500 is going to go in your A1500 case, and I do hope I can get the GBS8220 to fit inside somewhere. Maybe grab the RGB signals right off the 23 pin header internally with some little chip clips. That would be pretty sweet!
I've had one of these for ages but cannot get it to display in 15k mode :(
It all depends on how you are hooking it up. If you use the VGA connector, I have never gotten anything but garbage results. Using a custom RGB connection works OK, but if you get an RGB to Component connector you can get really nice results
Thanks for the video - it was very informative. I'm currently in the hunt for a monitor that supports 15KHz but I'm curious to know your opinion on what gives the best performance, a 15KHz monitor via RGB or using a GBS-8220 with a regular monitor?
15 Khz via RGB all day long. The colors pop so much more than they do going through the GBS-8220 device. I have an Acer LCD that works great at 15Khz, and I use it quite a bit. I use my GBS-8220 for testing and very occasionally video capture.
Great episode as always. Keep them coming :)
Cobbled together a cable this evening with a 25 pin cut down to 23, soldered up to the same cable you did, and got it working fairly well with minimal configuration. I did have to adjust the levels on the 3 onboard pots, and then adjust the screen vertical position (mine was on 20, but needed to be zero). I didn't change anything else and I got an acceptable output on my NEC 1970NX I use on my other retro machines (the monitors will do 15khz no problem, but I was wanting to try the 8220 that's been on the shelf for months). I may end up with a more expensive setup, but the 8220 is sufficient for the short-term. If you end up with a good supply of the 23 pin female connectors, I'd definitely be interested in a couple, while the hacked off connector does work, I prefer to use the correct hardware, lol.
That is so great! That is the best adjective I can come up with, too. Acceptable. Certainly not bad for the price. I have not heard back from my distributor on the 23 pin connectors yet. I will call them next week.
Great little review there, I can’t be without my crts personally, still gutted I sold my microvitec multisync monitor😞
Isn't that funny? I still have a great 1902 monitor that I use in 80 columns on my C128, and I look forward to retiring it. I just love seeing our old tech display on a nice, new LCD screen. I totally get where you are coming from, though. Hope your CRT's last for years!
10 Minute Amiga Retro Cast I’m really lucky as there is a crt guru that lives around 10 minutes from me...he does all the chassis servicing for most of the people in the U.K. with arcade cabs😊
It’s my passion for arcades is the main reason I can’t let crts go🙄🙄
@@Sinisteve that is so nice! It is hard to find anyone who works on CRT's. We had one guy left in Tucson that I knew about, but he retired a few years back.
Perhaps there are differences between GBS-8220s out there as mine was utter garbage regardless of the settings. I will say I had to try three different power supplies before I found one that didn't introduce considerable noise but thst couldn't save it from going in the trash. It worked enough to check the integrity of some old harddrives and disks but I didn't want to use it for anything else because thr image quality was so poor. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. If I used any other retro systems beyond my Amigas I may have held onto it for testing purposes only.
I certainly get what you are saying. I have heard there are some really junk clones of this that circulate out there and pretend to be the original. I certainly don't have too many complaints about the quality that comes out of mine, as I said in the video it is not as good as the $150 solutions, but I never expected it to be. mine is perfectly usable and the screen quality is at least a C+ in my book.
Nice. Got my AMIGA500 Rev6A/ACE2/ACA500Plus/ACA1221EC on a 49 inch Panasonic LEDLCD TV 4:3 with a A520 Composite in PAL High Res Laced 50Hz 16 Colour.. Running AmigaOS 3.1.4 / BestWB with a 16GB CF and a 16GB CF AUX. Got a RGB Commodore 1084S-P1 but is dead. Maybe i get a Indivision ECS and a Acer LCD V226HQL model / VGA 1440 :x 288 H: 15kHz V: 50Hz
Waiting for the Vampire 500 V4 for HDMI 720p and for SAGA/68080 and more FAST RAM. Got also a Wicher500i Rev2a bit have a limited to 8MB FAST RAM than the Rev2c. Use it with the AMIGA 500+ Rev8A board with WB 3.1 / BetterWB. Today i get the A590 with SCSI2SD v5.0 and 8GB microSD on WB 1.3. Maybe i get it work on AmigaOS 3.1.4 or WB 3.1.
Bought an enclosed unit off a guy on Amibay, never did work. Tried your settings and all I get is garbled greenish/yellow screens. Nothing more. He tells me my power supply is wrong but same as yours 5v, 2a. Was robbed I believe. Main menu screen displays though, so his accusation of frying my unit is bull.
Well that is odd. Do you have a 23 pin to 15 pin converter? Mine works connected to the VGA in on the GBS-8220, just not as nice. I have hard that there are some cheap knockoff products that really don't work well at all. I am sure you have cycled thru all the inputs, I know I had an issue figuring which input to use at first, since I did not get video at all until I tweaked the settings. The good news is a replacement board is super cheap on Amazon, and at least you got a case and cable out of it if we can't get it to work!
10 Minute Amiga Retro Cast i have that convertor, do you mean to use instead of Gbs? I do have other means of connecting amiga to monitors but was hoping to get this to work.
@@davidwright9166 my GBS-8220 has a VGA input and VGA output. I was able to go from my adapter to the VGA input of the GBS-8220. It worked fine with no actual tweaking required, but the image quality was not quite as good. It was flicker free, though. Maybe yours for not have the VGA input?
If you look at 2:45 on my video you will see me pointing out the VGA input on my unit.
I had this issue with an 8200 and did the gbscontrol mod with the esp8266 module. The board is working perfectly now.
Ha A 23 pin female connecter is as rare as hens teeth these days and even Amiga Kit cannot get them and have had to cut down their 25 pin connector to make their 23 pin to 9 pin adaptors
This istrue. But my friend in Canada who makes the RGB to component adapters says that he has somebody in the United States that is making them brand new.
gbscontrol. google it.
I am aware of it now. It certainly improves things.
@@10MARC yeah it honestly takes the GBS8200 almost up to OSSC levels