This gentleman is obviously an engineer because he solders like one. Those are two of the worst looking soldering joints that I have seen in sometime. If you are going to show how to do something get someone that knows how.
I've seen some crappy soldering and cold joints before, but this guy takes the cake. If I had soldered joints in the Navy like that they would have kicked me out.
he is right.. looped the wire so lazy and careless could easily be removing conductive copper strands, no flux on the terminal, solder iron was held on way too long, the tip was NOT tinned before making contact with point and copper cable, and the iron was held so long on the terminal you can literally see the transparent sleeve melting. watch this to learn bad practices for soldering.
I’ve seen many people solder this way, and I did too a long time ago. I’ve found that several brands and types of solder -don’t have enough flux in them. This means that the wire/s and any surface they bond to aren’t properly cleaned, which leads to cold joints and “bulbs” of solder, rather than the ideal shiny, thin, tight coating appearance where you can often still see the wires in a multi-stranded connection. If there is adequate flux, applied to the entire joining area and the flux boiled off, the entire connection area will be super-cleaned and shining. Then proper heating of the workpiece and wires makes the solder sweat in- especially the wire ..it sucks the solder up into it very quickly. When all this above happens, you have the proper, and the best soldered connection. So because so much available solder has inadequate flux in it (some made without it intentionally of course also) I think most of the time, a separate flux should be used. The entire connection should be first covered with the flux and heated and cleaned. Then, step two, apply the heat, then step three, apply solder. In the video, the wires and the metal of the binding post connections were still dirty or oxidized, so the solder didn’t flow in properly. Some oils from fingers likely transferred to the wires from twisting them together, increasing the need for flux. A separate step initially of flux deoxidizing could have improved the soldered connections in the video. But thank you for the tutorial, the effort and intent is appreciated indeed.
I would recommend stripping the wire a little further back and twisting the wire around itself before attempting to solder. This keeps the wire from moving during and after the joint is made. Also, make sure the solder saturates the wire on a stranded wire like that. Oh, and BTW, I'm an electrical engineer, FWIW Mr. Lehman.
FWIW I am also an E.E. with about 60 years experience and I also know how to solder. Most engineers don't because they are not required to. I would however expect an broadcast engineer from WLW to know how. If I were soldering this type of connection I would first tin the stranded wire. Tinning is a process where solder is applied to a stranded wire causing all the strands to become bonded to each other. In other words the stranded wire is all one mass for about an inch at the end . Now insert and wrap the wire as UTank suggested and solder the joint making sure that there is a good bond all around the terminal. This can be a bit tricky because a lot of the Chinese terminals do not take solder well. Now you will have a strong electrical and mechanical joint.
Please recommend a source. I want to solder Harris Silver Solder over copper speaker wire and can’t figure out which flux is right. Others say “Rosin Core” but Harris has a “much” higher silver content.
"Been soldering cold since 79". I hate to pick on the guy but anybody that heats the joint that long before introducing the solder doesnt solder that much. They are just doing what they have heard from their grandpa who also didnt know how to solder. Introducing the solder in the beginning creates a thermal bridge between the joint and the iron and that heats the joint up very quickly.
A "radio engineer" to show how to solder.....No, not really. I think this "radio engineer" should start woodworking instead, maybe he can be kept away from the soldering iron ;)
Can you say "AMATEUR!" I'm 70 years old and an audiophile, I haven't seen this bad of a job of soldering since I was a child. He maybe an engineer but he is no technician.
*HORRIBLE* soldering. This supposed "engineer" has NO CLUE. Solder attached to wire only (and poorly at that) and not to terminal which was frozen cold all the time. Why waste time on such a crappy and misleading video? He
How to make fun of this guy but that's not how you saw her speaker wire you literally hold the solder underneath the wire not touching and let it get warm and then you let the solder melt onto the wires but you're getting the wires too hot and that's why it's not melting correctly
I very much appreciate the quick tutorial. Years ago I worked soldering components on cell phones but wanted to make sure I had an idea, at least, for other projects. This happens to be EXACTLY what I was looking for, (same project). Thanks very much.
not solid connection either.. you should fill the terminal holes with solder, twist the wires and put some solder on it,preheat the terminals, then stick the wires through the holes.. now thats a solid connection
This video tells me I'm pretty good at soldering !!
This gentleman is obviously an engineer because he solders like one. Those are two of the worst looking soldering joints that I have seen in sometime. If you are going to show how to do something get someone that knows how.
Lol. Amen brother.
I've seen some crappy soldering and cold joints before, but this guy takes the cake. If I had soldered joints in the Navy like that they would have kicked me out.
cool story brah
@@drumitar 😂
he is right.. looped the wire so lazy and careless could easily be removing conductive copper strands, no flux on the terminal, solder iron was held on way too long, the tip was NOT tinned before making contact with point and copper cable, and the iron was held so long on the terminal you can literally see the transparent sleeve melting. watch this to learn bad practices for soldering.
It’s cool broI think they got rid of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell
This makes me feel better about my shit work
I’ve seen many people solder this way, and I did too a long time ago.
I’ve found that several brands and types of solder -don’t have enough flux in them.
This means that the wire/s and any surface they bond to aren’t properly cleaned,
which leads to cold joints and “bulbs” of solder,
rather than the ideal shiny, thin, tight coating appearance where you can often still see the wires in a multi-stranded connection.
If there is adequate flux,
applied to the entire joining area and the flux boiled off,
the entire connection area will be super-cleaned and shining.
Then proper heating of the workpiece and wires makes the solder sweat in-
especially the wire ..it sucks the solder up into it very quickly.
When all this above happens,
you have the proper,
and the best
soldered connection.
So because so much available solder has inadequate flux in it (some made without it intentionally of course also)
I think most of the time,
a separate flux should be used.
The entire connection should be first covered with the flux and heated and cleaned.
Then, step two,
apply the heat,
then step three, apply solder.
In the video, the wires and the metal of the binding post connections were still dirty or oxidized,
so the solder didn’t flow in properly.
Some oils from fingers likely transferred to the wires from twisting them together,
increasing the need for flux.
A separate step initially
of flux deoxidizing
could have improved the soldered connections in the video.
But thank you for the tutorial,
the effort and intent is appreciated indeed.
I would recommend stripping the wire a little further back and twisting the wire around itself before attempting to solder. This keeps the wire from moving during and after the joint is made. Also, make sure the solder saturates the wire on a stranded wire like that. Oh, and BTW, I'm an electrical engineer, FWIW Mr. Lehman.
FWIW I am also an E.E. with about 60 years experience and I also know how to solder. Most engineers don't because they are not required to. I would however expect an broadcast engineer from WLW to know how. If I were soldering this type of connection I would first tin the stranded wire. Tinning is a process where solder is applied to a stranded wire causing all the strands to become bonded to each other. In other words the stranded wire is all one mass for about an inch at the end . Now insert and wrap the wire as UTank suggested and solder the joint making sure that there is a good bond all around the terminal. This can be a bit tricky because a lot of the Chinese terminals do not take solder well. Now you will have a strong electrical and mechanical joint.
@@johnlehman2157 agreed. I don't quite have 60 years experience yet, but I've always prided myself on making good, clean solder joints.
I bet WOOD magazine is about as good quality as that soldering work. Yeeeeeesh....
stevie wonder could make a better solder connection lol.
Yeo no lie right before I saw this i heard some drake feat Stevie wonder lol thats the wrong thing to do.
With a smile
“Make sure to heat the work” as he keeps going back to smear the solder on the iron. 😂
Thank you so much!!
Thank you sir!!!
This helped me get some bigger speakers into my truck! (Thumbs way up!)
Hi ,How watts soldering unit is required to speaker is needed?Thank you
The comments do not pass the vibe check
I was having tons of issues and I just turned my iron up to 700. Worked a lot easier
Please recommend a source. I want to solder Harris Silver Solder over copper speaker wire and can’t figure out which flux is right. Others say “Rosin Core” but Harris has a “much” higher silver content.
I watched this without sound. I can only guess this was a video on what not to do?
How do I take it off
Great tip cheers.
Thanks 4 the vid
"Been soldering cold since 79". I hate to pick on the guy but anybody that heats the joint that long before introducing the solder doesnt solder that much. They are just doing what they have heard from their grandpa who also didnt know how to solder. Introducing the solder in the beginning creates a thermal bridge between the joint and the iron and that heats the joint up very quickly.
There is a small mistake in the title. It should be : How Not To Solder Speaker Wires.
Where did you learn to solder? That's just wrong in so many ways!
Can you solder the wire to a broken terminal? Like if the terminal is a bit chopped off?
Damn your fine.
Yes you can sorry for late response
Those are the WORST soldered connections I have EVER seen. Dammmm
Lmao I'm trying to learn how to solder and this is my first tutorial and I even said the same thing and I don't even know
How many watt soldering iron do I need?
There 40W is fine.
To Solder or to Sodder, that is the question
This is me at age 4 trying to solder for first time
😂 my thoughts exactly, that’s what my solder joints from back when I had a single-digit age looked like!
A "radio engineer" to show how to solder.....No, not really. I think this "radio engineer" should start woodworking instead, maybe he can be kept away from the soldering iron ;)
Gives instructions on what not to do then proceeds to do it.
Can you say "AMATEUR!" I'm 70 years old and an audiophile, I haven't seen this bad of a job of soldering since I was a child. He maybe an engineer but he is no technician.
Honestly if you wanna learn how to solder you better be able to read comments first
Lol, talks about cold solder joints, makes pretty much that, doesn't realize it.
Thanks for the training... I have to post the LEDs I set up
Nice
Heatshrink tubing!
Are you sure this is soldering ?
bad job
It is not a clean joint
How do you know which is earth and which is power? Changing out a old speaker which doesn't have colour coding💀
I'm trying to IMPROVE my technique. Not learn to solder drunk!
J-standard would never
Only 4 minutes didn't mind waisting the data to watch a woodworking expert post something different.
So those cheap Chinese speaker connections aren't that bad then??🤣
Umm can we say FLUX!!!!! Neither one of those are good solder joints.
*HORRIBLE* soldering. This supposed "engineer" has NO CLUE. Solder attached to wire only (and poorly at that) and not to terminal which was frozen cold all the time. Why waste time on such a crappy and misleading video?
He
How to make fun of this guy but that's not how you saw her speaker wire you literally hold the solder underneath the wire not touching and let it get warm and then you let the solder melt onto the wires but you're getting the wires too hot and that's why it's not melting correctly
i mean.. he might not be the best at soldering, but y'all don't gotta be a**holes about it..
This is an awful example, unless you are showing what not to do.
I very much appreciate the quick tutorial. Years ago I worked soldering components on cell phones but wanted to make sure I had an idea, at least, for other projects. This happens to be EXACTLY what I was looking for, (same project). Thanks very much.
not solid connection either.. you should fill the terminal holes with solder, twist the wires and put some solder on it,preheat the terminals, then stick the wires through the holes.. now thats a solid connection
No, you want to tin the wire, form it into a hook, and run that through the hole.
@@tookitogo that's basically what I've said aside from making a hook. that wire isn't going anywhere anyway once it passes through the hole
Thats not what the holes are for.
Also a terrible solder job
Crap
Lol... Those are horrible joints and absolutely how not to solder in some speaker wire... Dang, badness X1000. Shows us "exactly how it's NOT done."