The Kick Barrage now has Hyper Armor! Hoorah! Everyone thank Paragon for that one, as I harrassed him to add it to the fixes and balances sheet he had for the update that released today :)
One thing to note: Stone free is SUPER good at defeating Dio over heaven, it's just so fun. When using stone free to kill dio over heaven, the name of the game is cancelling his ts. The start is easy, but then it gets to the ts part, stone free's attacks are very fast (i'm talking about pilot and home run), while Dio's ts is slow, when it gets to lower than half health, I alr know that Dio's gonna use ts, so I just use home run to cancel it, when his TS gets cancelled, he bugs for some reason and will do anything for the rest of the fight, so you can just finish him off easily. Sure, it's easier with SP:TW, but it's much funnier with Stone Free
Actually if you use Home Run or String Beatdown against Dio Over Heaven OR Joe P6 anywhere during the battle, it breaks their next TS and soft locks them like you said.
Hopefully Sticky Fingers is the next revamped stand. It’s my favorite stand and a revamp could be very unique and creative with how much Bruno used it in the anime / manga
@@phanta8880 Yeah and I hope that they also focus on reworking majority of the stands. Or maybe with each big update if they add a new stand they also add reworked abilities.
@@theoddtrashcan yeah i really hope they just get rid of the 2nd erasure and add something like a cutscene move from when it was kicking rhcp to the ground
Also with String Barrier you can use it without having your stand out but instead of 19 dmg it does 12 dmg am pretty sure. It is really good to use if an enemy is going to attack you when your ragdoll goes away you, basically mash the G key until you get up and you get to punish the enemy.
I would use this, but there's always the risk of just getting barraged or m1d as the barrier is cancellable. This is similar to the risk of tossing out a jaw breaker or (you'll get barraged for this:) eye gouge without a stand.
@@user-ri1fy6rt7h WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK STONE FREE IS "bALaNCed" AND "sOLId" ITS NOT ITS WAY TOO BRAINDEAD YOU HAVE LIKE 3 PUNISHES AFTER RAGDOLL WHICH IS THE MOST STUPID THING EVER (TWOH used to have this spot but then it got nerfed so only 1 punish now) YOU GOT A RANGED BEATDOWN (WHY!!!!!!!??!??!?!) 3 BDS (DONT TELL ME HOME RUN ISNT A BEATDOWN) A HEALING MOVE A UNPREDICTABLE STUNNING MOVE THAT AUTOTRACKS AND CONFIRMS INTO RANGED BEATDOWN 3 BARRAGES I COULD GO ON AND ON FOREVER ABOUT WHY STONE FREE NEEDS TO BE NERFED EVERYONE ON THE ENTIRE PLANET SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO COUNTER THIS STAND IM SORRY BRO I DONT SEE ANY POSSIBLE WAY TO DO THAT NOT EVEN TS CAN STOP THIS thank you for reading my tedtalk rant.
Honestly, Stone Free proved to me that Uzu still loves YBA and is trying his best to make the game good. He put so much love and care into Stone Free and it definitely shows, and with a QOL update already out within a couple days of an update, I feel like YBA is finally going back on the right track.
“Again” Honestly, he always has. He and his team have been working hard while dealing with life. An entire remodeled map, stand, and new systems CANT be done in 1-2 weeks, unless they’re highly experienced full team developers. Edit: Please stop comparing different teams with different situations, and stop trying to prove that Uzu doesn’t care by saying “He could have made it faster if he cared!” when you don’t know whats happening in his life (he doesnt need to share it). If you really dont like yba dont play it
@@liguow the worst part would probably be thinking on how to make them good scripting these things isn't the worst thing in the world once you get really used to it but making ideas can take time ngl tho they could just listen to the community sometimes or think how they'd like it if they were just a random player playing yba
Me too. I was thinking you could use it with vampire to hit people after they get up, but then thats 2 things you can use to do that. (string lasso AND string pilot)
Great video man! After trying stone free myself this helps open up a couple different views on it and goes pretty hand in hand with my experience. I love your content!
Wow, STONE free is solid, totally didnt expect it lol. seriously though, i think stone free is super to play! i got called many times in 1vs1 when playing it tho, guess its my guilty pleasure, also i was wondering if you could do the re-review on gold experience since the changes buffed it at least little bit, saying as a ge main.
Fun fact: I don't know if they patched this or not but if you beatdown your victim clone (with either the ball beatdown or the normal beatdown) and the victim clone blows up, you'll be stuck until you reset.
I had to rewind to make sure I actually heard TA4 pluck, I can't wait for that vid. You're doing great work with these vids man and I really appreciate you as a content creator. Thank you :)
Stone Free is the definition of a perfect stand. It isn't too strong but can put out some serious damage if you know what you are doing, it's unique but it isn't too unique making it unplayable or un-fun to play, the visuals are amazing and it's just overall great to have it for some reason. It was definetly NOT worth the 1 year wait but it's still pretty solid for a yba stand and I really hope future stands + reworks can follow stone free's path.
i appreciate that you added the total amount of damage the two cutscene moves do, i always wanted to know the total amount of damage each beatdown can do
I used this yesterday I would actually recommend it lol it’s so fun you can use your spin moves and go into home run and then pilot when it ends for tons of damage
17:17 whenever you decide to do this, try hg with hamon, i tested it and apparently scarlet overdrive doesnt take off marionette control for some reason, unless using it on bots is different from using it on players. plus emerald splash and barrier doing 3.8 and nearly 5 damage to vamps is pretty funny. (3 being the new damage due to the higher damage, lower length balance change for hg a few hours ago)
My thoughts on every move: Ora Kicks - A all-around great move, great for ending combos, getting free damage, or to escape combos Homerun - Requires decent aim to use at long range, and rewards you for it pretty well. Suprisingly good at melee range if the target is stunned String Barrier - An INSANELY useful move that extends combos, has area denial, and can even transform Combo Enders into Combo Extenders by placing the barrier on top of a ragdolled person String Slam - Basically a better Heavy Punch, but throws the opponent far enough away and ragdolls them long enough so you can confirm String Bandage String Lasso - A great move that starts combos very well and is useful for escaping bad situations, such as an SCR using Your Own Shadow String Pilot - An EXECELLENT move that can be used at nearly any range and be effective, combo into Homerun. A suprisingly great combo extender at melee range as well String Bandage - An ok move that while does have a long windup, can be confirmed by using String Slam as stated previously or by using String Beatdown String Beatdown - A decent move that is hard to hit, but hits like a truck. An amazing finisher
In my opinion this stand is good alot , and its pretty well done i will definitely try to play sbr with this and im waiting for the next updates to be better at some points
Yo Eclipse, I got a good combo to do, you use String Lasso, and if they block, all the better! If they block, while you’re flying above the enemy, quickly use String Pilot, most of the time they won’t see it coming. After that use a 2 or 3 m1s, Kick Barrage, as the enemy is knocked down, use String Barrier, as they get up, m1 them and sometimes they will get caught in the barrier and get stuck, this is when you use eye gouge, if they are blocking use jawbreaker obviously, then try to extend the combo. This is what I use and 95% of the time the enemy falls for it. Also if they block String Pilot, and you’re close enough, dash towards them and use Kick Barrage
I've heard "mid-free" or "stone free-combos" but tbh, I think it's DEFINITELY powerful with it's high Destructive power, speed, and utility, but it's not too busted because there's a lot of blockable moves. However, you can get around this with the use of your utilities or spec to open yourself to use your abilities. I'd say it's a hybrid between a ranged and close ranged defensive ability, I think it's fun to play if you're smart enough to catch your opponent. I'd say that it's like a high B tier in its playability if stands like SP are A tier.
Fun fact: String Barrier also works like Pluck's Pierce Strike: it has a lingering-sort-of hitbox, meaning you can use Ora Kicks, time the Barrier and on get-up, the enemy will be strangled without a stand, confirming a free barrage or a combo-extend if you have the right spec (ahem ahe spin)
Yba had a little update where you can see health now and the string pilot got changed to canceling the whole animation when blocked. I'm pretty sure you can't combo when people get knockdown'ed anymore with string pilot.
A fanmade stone free requiriem from them would be cool bc it kinda feels like one of the stands such as the world or killer queen that should be evolved, ik this never actually happened but it would be cool
i tested stone free out with every spec so here's my opinions on every build: hamon: since the destructive power is on par with sp and tw, you can obviously do BIG damage. you can pull some sh-nasty combos with zoom punch and string pilot in unison since they are both fast combo starters/extenders. boxing: well, it's boxing. string barrier into jaw breaker is pretty much the only way you're gonna be able to do damage. eye gouge can be confirmed off of string pilot if close enough (about the size of your dash range), but i still think home run is a better option. string pilot can be used after jaw breaker to catch them off guard. pluck: definitely not used to getting my hp shredded, but besides that, pierce strike is an amazing tool to have with stone free. you can do some cheese with kick barrage into pierce strike since they have less i-frames than other kick barrages (i think.) barrier into pierce strike is pretty much always a guranteed beatdown. thrust into string pilot is some funny cheese too. vamp: you basically have 2 freezes, have fun. blood drain is a decent knockdown to use with string pilot. not too much to say here since this spec synergizes the second-least with sf. spin: would not recommend, spin is awful. however, barrier into multi steel balls into beatdown is probably the funniest thing i've ever seen and is what carries it imo. spin punch is still the worst move in the game. i think my favorite was pluck, surprisingly; solely based off of how good pierce strike and thrust are with this stand. though, i would recommend hamon for the non-sweats.
Can you do a re-review on Golden Experience? I've been using it a lot and im beating stands like twoh and twau with it, idk if they are just garbage but i got a 13 streak on 1v1's with it.
Honestly keep stone free how it is! It seems like a really strong stand that cant just be licked up immediately. It looks like it has SOME skill sealing which is fucking great for it, honestly even its worst tactics are pretty good. Ngl stone free really didnt dissapoint
My problems when i used stone free were 1. Lasso not working even when aimed properly 2. (Minor) home run having blur effect during the cutscene (even upclose, probably bug) 3. All moves being cancellable (kicks are now hyper armor) 4. String pilot somehow missing even while in range and getting punished for it 5. All the moves are blockable except cage, which should be a HG style stun if you ask me but make it parriable and have a more noticeable cue 6. Playing cooldowns
Please do a video giving us your thoughts on the HP Bar update. Personally it takes away a large part of the strategy of 1v1s with bluffs being useless and information now rewards heavy combos now only needing to just follow up with a barrage you know you will win.
A true(i think) combo with stone free: Block break / parry oponent and do string barrier or block break them after. Land 2 or 3 m1's and do slam, then throw baseball and then try to get close and use stand pilot (max it out cos it has insane range)
Dear eclipse. I was searching ''Demon core memes'' and this showed up. (Edit: This video is really good edited. I hope we see more videos with this kind of production quality. Also please make more tarkov & subnautica videos. I don't play shooting games but tarkov really looked fun and it was hillarious seeing you die 10 times. Subnautica is one of my fav games too so please keep on playing it! Avoid any spoiler for subnautica! Ofc mario kart is great and I wish I could see more of it but due to low view count prob not /: Yba vids are good when they give u tips and tricks but the rest are boring. Please keep on making great videos!)
There is one things I've noticed, String barrier isn't actually perfect in all cases, if there is a KC/KCR they're still able to activate epitaph inside the cage, nullifying SFs advantage and punishing them for attempting to get a hit in.
@@cengix8850 Im not too sure what you mean by this but I'm going to go off what I think you meant. Yes you can use any move after the initial hit, but Epitaph is the most effective and nullifies the entire point of the barrier along with potentially hurting the SF user for attempting to use the move as intended. in other words, its the most effective and best counter to the barrier.
Stone free in my honest opinion is the closest we've gotten to a balanced stand a few things that i would like to see changed -The heal either have a hp buff (5-10 hp, not much) OR a animation reduction, because currently, its not amazing, and just a small change would help -String lasso just generally having a better aiming system, (its kinda jank to land right now) -Ora kicks being uncancelable (which did happen thank god) -String Slam being Uncancelable: Currently String slam is up there with one of the slowest moves to come out, while also being blockable and cancelable, making it basically a move where using any other move is a better option. Having this uncancelable option would really REALLY help stone free when it's getting rushed, without breaking the stand since as i mentioned the move is Slow and blockable. Even if a damage nerf to the move is required i would definitely take that over the extremely risky move we have now.
Stone Free is balanced. Most of Stone Free's moves have huge windups. Lasso barely works as it's intended to. Ora Kicks is a solid move. Barrier is pretty good, but you can block during it and you'd have to predict if your opponent will block or not. The Beatdowns do absolutely nothing except the new Execution thing which is bullshit. Also, Stone Free's skill points are expensive as hell.
some other sf techniques: Using string lasso on the floor to fling yourself to your opponent and kick barrage them. String lasso has very low endlag and can be used similarly to hp's grapple because you can use moves after you are flung. vaporizing freeze, m1m1m1, predict when they start blocking (usually after 2 m1's) and block break them with string barrier, allowing for a free beatdown. (already mentioned in video) always use string pilot when the opponent gets ragdolled, even better with stand crashing because if they don't block you can get a free barrage. Though they can block upon getup, you can use string barrier after, and probably still get a free barrage. (just unblock)
the string pilot got nerfed to death so i honestly hope the nerf gets reverted because string pilot was so good it was basically the only reason stone free was good
Righ now its op because soo many people don't block the string pilot move and have a hard time trying to overpower it because it's new and they don't know its moves. After a few weeks it will become a lot more predictable and people would need to adapt new techniques to use it, regardless it still stays a solid stand.
using the kick barrage/home run/literally any other knockdown move into string pilot is a true combo! not to mention that string pilot gives the opponent stun after you use it! so you could theoretically combo string barrier off of it!
Stone free is the ideal stand for yba rn. Its fun, balanced and overall good, thats how stand should feel like. I feel like you influenced paragon /uzu for many of these balances so thanks
There’s a combo with boxing and stone free, first hit them with 1 m1 to confirm kick barrage then when they are on the ground get as close to them as possible then use pilot barrage, as long as they don’t block, after you use pilot barrage, you barrage them, use barrier, then eye gouge then m1 jaw breaker
You also forgot 1 thing about String bandage when you got "Hamon Punch" upgrade on hamon it buffs your heal to 27.5 ik that this isn't much but it still is actually can help you survive after you land a cutscene
Here a tech, string pilot can be use on knockdown people, similar to sc million pricks except auto aim. This basically gives you a free combo. String pilot can be confirm with any knockdown move. It’s best use with skill that stand crashes for example jaw breaker or string slam
Stone free definitely sits up there with stands like the world or gold experience. It’s definitely got some sauce that can be used with efficiency and effectively.
Even though the kick barrage on stone free has hyper armor it can still be canceled on startup which I think isn't good. Sptw, sp, and some other kick barraging stands don't have this issue, why should stone free? The fact that everything is cancelable on startup is really bad and you have no good mobility on top of that really makes it near impossible to get out of sticky situations especially when you are low on hp. Which causes stands with good mobility and good pressure to just completely gut the stand with an m1 rush. I like that the moves into cutscenes don't have hyper armor but I think that the kick barrage should have hyper armor on start up and during it, just so that way stone free has one decent get off me tool. Since the only get off me tool currently is a heavy punch that is a free parry or counter to good players. I also think it won't be completely broken because the kick barrage has a reasonable cooldown and stone free doesn't have a good, infinite mobility move like time skip, nor does its lasso act like a stand jump that can't be canceled with an m1. Also what is even worse is that when the move does get canceled stone free still does the kick barrage animation making it so that you can't do any other moves until it's over giving the enemy free damage while you can't fight back until the kick barrage animation is done. This could have changed, but at the time of me testing stone free a few hours ago, it is still cancelable on startup.
I go crazy with stone free and I even made a combo out of the string beatdown when I was playing with the stand for a while so definitely a solid stand
honestly, i wish the effort they put in the Stone Free's cutscenes and moves was the same effort placed in other stands but they might do that in a few updates (maybe?)
Scary monsters is a buggy mess, sometimes it just stops working now. *I know that happens to other stands where you can’t use moves but it feels like it happens almost every game with sm.*
String Barrier is just a slightly better vaporization freeze. They both block break They Freeze you in place, but you can still attack Jankiest hitboxes Barrier is just slightly better because it blinds you
A tip for string bandage is to spam the shit out of it after using a cutscene move because you'll have the time to heal before your opponent comes to punish you for it. It almost movestacks with the end of cutscene moves it can be triggered that fast.
Cant wait for the BoBs for Stonefree. Might I suggest Stonefree Vamp? I think they might pair well and Vaporization could help get off some of the harder to hit moves
Oh my god! I am so enraged about the fact that they thought it's a good Idea to now give the players the ability to see the HP of enemies. That is so stupid, I can't believe they actually put thought into adding this..
@@lukestanley820 because you cannot put pressure on people anymore, when you used to be low but put pressure on the enemy making them think that you are still high on HP..
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The Kick Barrage now has Hyper Armor! Hoorah! Everyone thank Paragon for that one, as I harrassed him to add it to the fixes and balances sheet he had for the update that released today :)
Ok
Yba players eating rn
thank paragon
At least it’s not bad
so really we should thank you, since you’re the reason that he added it
One thing to note: Stone free is SUPER good at defeating Dio over heaven, it's just so fun. When using stone free to kill dio over heaven, the name of the game is cancelling his ts. The start is easy, but then it gets to the ts part, stone free's attacks are very fast (i'm talking about pilot and home run), while Dio's ts is slow, when it gets to lower than half health, I alr know that Dio's gonna use ts, so I just use home run to cancel it, when his TS gets cancelled, he bugs for some reason and will do anything for the rest of the fight, so you can just finish him off easily. Sure, it's easier with SP:TW, but it's much funnier with Stone Free
Actually if you use Home Run or String Beatdown against Dio Over Heaven OR Joe P6 anywhere during the battle, it breaks their next TS and soft locks them like you said.
Actually u don't need to do anything, when they timestop they become useless no matter what, unless the yba devs fixes it already
@@Lambent_Omega Yba never changes lol
Correction: Anubis "kick" barrage can be canceled upon start up, its just the windup is as fast as sound and is very hard to predict.
Really hoping the other stands get added or revamped are like stone free in quality
Hopefully Sticky Fingers is the next revamped stand. It’s my favorite stand and a revamp could be very unique and creative with how much Bruno used it in the anime / manga
@@phanta8880 Yeah and I hope that they also focus on reworking majority of the stands. Or maybe with each big update if they add a new stand they also add reworked abilities.
@@phanta8880 a hand rework. So many goddamn things it could have that aren’t just “2 buttons for win”
@@theoddtrashcan yeah i really hope they just get rid of the 2nd erasure and add something like a cutscene move from when it was kicking rhcp to the ground
Hopefully they at LEAST improve voice effects to all the old stands if theyre not gonna revamp for a while
This stand review video is really good! I can see the effort you’ve put into this. Keep it up Eclipse!
i'm really loving the new stand review format! keep it going, king!
Also with String Barrier you can use it without having your stand out but instead of 19 dmg it does 12 dmg am pretty sure. It is really good to use if an enemy is going to attack you when your ragdoll goes away you, basically mash the G key until you get up and you get to punish the enemy.
Ya you can also use home run without a stand
I can use bandage without ur stands out but I'm not sure if that's useful
I can just barrage you if you try to do that
I would use this, but there's always the risk of just getting barraged or m1d as the barrier is cancellable. This is similar to the risk of tossing out a jaw breaker or (you'll get barraged for this:) eye gouge without a stand.
yeah, but i think home run is objectively a better option
Love the new, higher quality format on stand reviews, looking forward to more
Its pretty cool how i havent tried it yet but the stuff is balanced, strong dmg and decent cooldown
are you the guy on discord who traded Digital for Pep KCR and Hexed GER?
it got nerfed either i got worse for no reason or every move is cancelable, long cooldown, and weak now
theres no balance with this stand
@@user-ri1fy6rt7h WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK STONE FREE IS "bALaNCed" AND "sOLId"
ITS NOT ITS WAY TOO BRAINDEAD YOU HAVE LIKE 3 PUNISHES AFTER RAGDOLL WHICH IS THE MOST STUPID THING EVER (TWOH used to have this spot but then it got nerfed so only 1 punish now)
YOU GOT A RANGED BEATDOWN (WHY!!!!!!!??!??!?!)
3 BDS (DONT TELL ME HOME RUN ISNT A BEATDOWN)
A HEALING MOVE
A UNPREDICTABLE STUNNING MOVE THAT AUTOTRACKS AND CONFIRMS INTO RANGED BEATDOWN
3 BARRAGES
I COULD GO ON AND ON FOREVER ABOUT WHY STONE FREE NEEDS TO BE NERFED
EVERYONE ON THE ENTIRE PLANET SEEMS TO KNOW HOW TO COUNTER THIS STAND
IM SORRY BRO I DONT SEE ANY POSSIBLE WAY TO DO THAT
NOT EVEN TS CAN STOP THIS
thank you for reading my tedtalk rant.
@@user-ri1fy6rt7h string pilot got nerfed to death and it was basically stone free's best move so
Honestly, Stone Free proved to me that Uzu still loves YBA and is trying his best to make the game good. He put so much love and care into Stone Free and it definitely shows, and with a QOL update already out within a couple days of an update, I feel like YBA is finally going back on the right track.
“Again”
Honestly, he always has. He and his team have been working hard while dealing with life. An entire remodeled map, stand, and new systems CANT be done in 1-2 weeks, unless they’re highly experienced full team developers.
Edit: Please stop comparing different teams with different situations, and stop trying to prove that Uzu doesn’t care by saying “He could have made it faster if he cared!” when you don’t know whats happening in his life (he doesnt need to share it). If you really dont like yba dont play it
Sad part is we only got one stand and a new map was that worth it? I'm grateful tho
@@liguow true, I do think it’s kind of unfair to say ‘again’ now that I really think about it
@@liguow true, but do we have to wait a year for that?
if he didn't stop caring about the game it would probably come in less than half of the time
@@liguow the worst part would probably be thinking on how to make them good scripting these things isn't the worst thing in the world once you get really used to it but making ideas can take time ngl tho they could just listen to the community sometimes or think how they'd like it if they were just a random player playing yba
Honestly, string lasso should be more movement based. Longer range, better accuracy, does basically no damage to enemies.
Me too. I was thinking you could use it with vampire to hit people after they get up, but then thats 2 things you can use to do that. (string lasso AND string pilot)
thats subjective
decrease the cd by a fourth as well in that case
It’s not meant to be a damage dealing move, it’s a very good move
Honestly, for me just reduce the windup of it and it's a good move atleast for me
Great video man! After trying stone free myself this helps open up a couple different views on it and goes pretty hand in hand with my experience. I love your content!
Build or bust idea. Stone free spin. You can chain the steel ball in into double steel ball into home run. I've found it enjoyable to play.
I love the bd change It makes it so you don't instantly die by a SPTW bd troll even if you have full hp.
yeah but you don’t have any chance when you’re low with the new update especially against ge when it lands frog
Wow, STONE free is solid, totally didnt expect it lol.
seriously though, i think stone free is super to play! i got called many times in 1vs1 when playing it tho, guess its my guilty pleasure, also i was wondering if you could do the re-review on gold experience since the changes buffed it at least little bit, saying as a ge main.
At least a brief rundown on his thoughts on it would definitely be interesting.
@@bung9094 yea its much stronger and is very usable
glad you said STONE, thought this was diamond free
Nice vid! Keep up the good work eclipse! (I’m excited for tarkov vids)
Fun fact: I don't know if they patched this or not but if you beatdown your victim clone (with either the ball beatdown or the normal beatdown) and the victim clone blows up, you'll be stuck until you reset.
I had to rewind to make sure I actually heard TA4 pluck, I can't wait for that vid. You're doing great work with these vids man and I really appreciate you as a content creator. Thank you :)
Stone Free is the definition of a perfect stand. It isn't too strong but can put out some serious damage if you know what you are doing, it's unique but it isn't too unique making it unplayable or un-fun to play, the visuals are amazing and it's just overall great to have it for some reason. It was definetly NOT worth the 1 year wait but it's still pretty solid for a yba stand and I really hope future stands + reworks can follow stone free's path.
also has thick hips
@@morgansboobies that too I guess
i appreciate that you added the total amount of damage the two cutscene moves do, i always wanted to know the total amount of damage each beatdown can do
Next build or bust: Stone free + Spin
Now that they buffed spin I actually want to see this
Why put emphasis on buffed exactly? It received enough things to make it an actual buff instead of a trade off
@@jip0611 I completely forgot the new changes that they added today I'm gonna remove it now
I used this yesterday I would actually recommend it lol it’s so fun you can use your spin moves and go into home run and then pilot when it ends for tons of damage
I mained this ever since I got stone free and it’s really good, well maybe after the spin buff but whatever. Beat a bunch of kcr and sptw users
@@areo_actual double ball
Now we wait for eclipse to scream at the fact you can see enemy health bars now
17:17 whenever you decide to do this, try hg with hamon, i tested it and apparently scarlet overdrive doesnt take off marionette control for some reason, unless using it on bots is different from using it on players. plus emerald splash and barrier doing 3.8 and nearly 5 damage to vamps is pretty funny. (3 being the new damage due to the higher damage, lower length balance change for hg a few hours ago)
you cant be stand crashed during marionette control, the move will still be active but your stand will not be taken out
My thoughts on every move:
Ora Kicks - A all-around great move, great for ending combos, getting free damage, or to escape combos
Homerun - Requires decent aim to use at long range, and rewards you for it pretty well. Suprisingly good at melee range if the target is stunned
String Barrier - An INSANELY useful move that extends combos, has area denial, and can even transform Combo Enders into Combo Extenders by placing the barrier on top of a ragdolled person
String Slam - Basically a better Heavy Punch, but throws the opponent far enough away and ragdolls them long enough so you can confirm String Bandage
String Lasso - A great move that starts combos very well and is useful for escaping bad situations, such as an SCR using Your Own Shadow
String Pilot - An EXECELLENT move that can be used at nearly any range and be effective, combo into Homerun. A suprisingly great combo extender at melee range as well
String Bandage - An ok move that while does have a long windup, can be confirmed by using String Slam as stated previously or by using String Beatdown
String Beatdown - A decent move that is hard to hit, but hits like a truck. An amazing finisher
String pilot does not confirm homerun 😂
In my opinion this stand is good alot , and its pretty well done i will definitely try to play sbr with this and im waiting for the next updates to be better at some points
Loving the look of moveset explanation!
I feel like alot of people will agree with me when I say that stone free is just a really fun stand to play
I love the format of the showcase, and personally I'd agree that it's not too strong but not super weak either
In other words, stone free’s difficulty is how it feels to actually use a stand in jojo
0:46
General Red Hot Chili Peppers, i was expecting a stand with your reputation to be a little... *stronger*
NO WAY STONE FREE IS 2 YEARS OLD WHAT THE HEEEEELLLLLLL
Build or Bust: Stone Free Vampire
Yo Eclipse, I got a good combo to do, you use String Lasso, and if they block, all the better! If they block, while you’re flying above the enemy, quickly use String Pilot, most of the time they won’t see it coming. After that use a 2 or 3 m1s, Kick Barrage, as the enemy is knocked down, use String Barrier, as they get up, m1 them and sometimes they will get caught in the barrier and get stuck, this is when you use eye gouge, if they are blocking use jawbreaker obviously, then try to extend the combo. This is what I use and 95% of the time the enemy falls for it. Also if they block String Pilot, and you’re close enough, dash towards them and use Kick Barrage
string pilot got nerfed to death :/
I've heard "mid-free" or "stone free-combos" but tbh, I think it's DEFINITELY powerful with it's high Destructive power, speed, and utility, but it's not too busted because there's a lot of blockable moves. However, you can get around this with the use of your utilities or spec to open yourself to use your abilities.
I'd say it's a hybrid between a ranged and close ranged defensive ability, I think it's fun to play if you're smart enough to catch your opponent.
I'd say that it's like a high B tier in its playability if stands like SP are A tier.
Idk if this is true, but o bet you could catch people with: lasso, eye gouge/zoom punch, string slam, string pilot, baseball thingy
Thank you for informing us eclipse
The video none of us deserved, ty Eclipse
i hope you come back from your break downs stronger then ever man your content is only getting more thorough and informative all the time. thank you
Fun fact: String Barrier also works like Pluck's Pierce Strike: it has a lingering-sort-of hitbox, meaning you can use Ora Kicks, time the Barrier and on get-up, the enemy will be strangled without a stand, confirming a free barrage or a combo-extend if you have the right spec (ahem ahe spin)
Why does this look like a power point presentation
The stand reviews look so much better now with the editing
Yba had a little update where you can see health now and the string pilot got changed to canceling the whole animation when blocked. I'm pretty sure you can't combo when people get knockdown'ed anymore with string pilot.
i am excited for the stone free bingo once you learn more about it
One year later, and this review is still accurate. YBA really did something right with this one.
A fanmade stone free requiriem from them would be cool bc it kinda feels like one of the stands such as the world or killer queen that should be evolved, ik this never actually happened but it would be cool
i tested stone free out with every spec so here's my opinions on every build:
hamon: since the destructive power is on par with sp and tw, you can obviously do BIG damage. you can pull some sh-nasty combos with zoom punch and string pilot in unison since they are both fast combo starters/extenders.
boxing: well, it's boxing. string barrier into jaw breaker is pretty much the only way you're gonna be able to do damage. eye gouge can be confirmed off of string pilot if close enough (about the size of your dash range), but i still think home run is a better option. string pilot can be used after jaw breaker to catch them off guard.
pluck: definitely not used to getting my hp shredded, but besides that, pierce strike is an amazing tool to have with stone free. you can do some cheese with kick barrage into pierce strike since they have less i-frames than other kick barrages (i think.) barrier into pierce strike is pretty much always a guranteed beatdown. thrust into string pilot is some funny cheese too.
vamp: you basically have 2 freezes, have fun. blood drain is a decent knockdown to use with string pilot. not too much to say here since this spec synergizes the second-least with sf.
spin: would not recommend, spin is awful. however, barrier into multi steel balls into beatdown is probably the funniest thing i've ever seen and is what carries it imo. spin punch is still the worst move in the game.
i think my favorite was pluck, surprisingly; solely based off of how good pierce strike and thrust are with this stand. though, i would recommend hamon for the non-sweats.
never expected that this video would ever come out
Can you do a re-review on Golden Experience? I've been using it a lot and im beating stands like twoh and twau with it, idk if they are just garbage but i got a 13 streak on 1v1's with it.
thanks for grinding out for us eclipse
Honestly keep stone free how it is! It seems like a really strong stand that cant just be licked up immediately. It looks like it has SOME skill sealing which is fucking great for it, honestly even its worst tactics are pretty good. Ngl stone free really didnt dissapoint
imo it’s a fun stand with ok moves
funee combo that i use:
home run, string pilot, (get close), 4 m1s, ora kicks, string barrier, funee beatdown/string slam.
Good video eclipse 👍
Any tips on gettin gud on this game? Like is hamon best? And what stand (besides MIH stands of course) is the best to use?
My problems when i used stone free were
1. Lasso not working even when aimed properly
2. (Minor) home run having blur effect during the cutscene (even upclose, probably bug)
3. All moves being cancellable (kicks are now hyper armor)
4. String pilot somehow missing even while in range and getting punished for it
5. All the moves are blockable except cage, which should be a HG style stun if you ask me but make it parriable and have a more noticeable cue
6. Playing cooldowns
Please do a video giving us your thoughts on the HP Bar update. Personally it takes away a large part of the strategy of 1v1s with bluffs being useless and information now rewards heavy combos now only needing to just follow up with a barrage you know you will win.
I really wish that the lasso was longer
Hey Eclipse. Now that Grand Piece Online is free, are you planning on reviewing it like you reviewed Project Star and Stand Upright?
A true(i think) combo with stone free:
Block break / parry oponent and do string barrier or block break them after. Land 2 or 3 m1's and do slam, then throw baseball and then try to get close and use stand pilot (max it out cos it has insane range)
Dear eclipse. I was searching ''Demon core memes'' and this showed up.
(Edit: This video is really good edited. I hope we see more videos with this kind of production quality.
Also please make more tarkov & subnautica videos.
I don't play shooting games but tarkov really looked fun and it was hillarious seeing you die 10 times.
Subnautica is one of my fav games too so please keep on playing it! Avoid any spoiler for subnautica! Ofc mario kart is great and I wish I could see more of it but due to low view count prob not /:
Yba vids are good when they give u tips and tricks but the rest are boring.
Please keep on making great videos!)
There is one things I've noticed, String barrier isn't actually perfect in all cases, if there is a KC/KCR they're still able to activate epitaph inside the cage, nullifying SFs advantage and punishing them for attempting to get a hit in.
You can use any move in barrier after the initial hit stun wears offtoo
@@cengix8850 Im not too sure what you mean by this but I'm going to go off what I think you meant. Yes you can use any move after the initial hit, but Epitaph is the most effective and nullifies the entire point of the barrier along with potentially hurting the SF user for attempting to use the move as intended. in other words, its the most effective and best counter to the barrier.
Stone free in my honest opinion is the closest we've gotten to a balanced stand
a few things that i would like to see changed
-The heal either have a hp buff (5-10 hp, not much) OR a animation reduction, because currently, its not amazing, and just a small change would help
-String lasso just generally having a better aiming system, (its kinda jank to land right now)
-Ora kicks being uncancelable (which did happen thank god)
-String Slam being Uncancelable:
Currently String slam is up there with one of the slowest moves to come out, while also being blockable and cancelable, making it basically a move where using any other move is a better option.
Having this uncancelable option would really REALLY help stone free when it's getting rushed, without breaking the stand since as i mentioned the move is Slow and blockable.
Even if a damage nerf to the move is required i would definitely take that over the extremely risky move we have now.
I like how you can now see other peoples hp I think its a really good addition to the game
I know this will likely fly under the radar, but Killer Queen’s infinite combo was fixed. They added I-frames to the first bomb explosion.
Stone Free is balanced.
Most of Stone Free's moves have huge windups. Lasso barely works as it's intended to. Ora Kicks is a solid move. Barrier is pretty good, but you can block during it and you'd have to predict if your opponent will block or not. The Beatdowns do absolutely nothing except the new Execution thing which is bullshit. Also, Stone Free's skill points are expensive as hell.
some other sf techniques:
Using string lasso on the floor to fling yourself to your opponent and kick barrage them. String lasso has very low endlag and can be used similarly to hp's grapple because you can use moves after you are flung.
vaporizing freeze, m1m1m1, predict when they start blocking (usually after 2 m1's) and block break them with string barrier, allowing for a free beatdown.
(already mentioned in video) always use string pilot when the opponent gets ragdolled, even better with stand crashing because if they don't block you can get a free barrage. Though they can block upon getup, you can use string barrier after, and probably still get a free barrage. (just unblock)
the string pilot got nerfed to death so
i honestly hope the nerf gets reverted because string pilot was so good it was basically the only reason stone free was good
Oh good eclipse,you also abbreviate stone free as SF6,Stone free is pretty fun to use ngl,it have some decent combo potential.
Righ now its op because soo many people don't block the string pilot move and have a hard time trying to overpower it because it's new and they don't know its moves.
After a few weeks it will become a lot more predictable and people would need to adapt new techniques to use it, regardless it still stays a solid stand.
That doesn’t make it OP, that just makes people idiots
using the kick barrage/home run/literally any other knockdown move into string pilot is a true combo!
not to mention that string pilot gives the opponent stun after you use it!
so you could theoretically combo string barrier off of it!
10:40
an untrue combination of moves in fighting games is often called a string, if you were looking for the word
I rly liked the moveset explanation
Build or Bust
Hierophant Green + Hamon (E)
Fun fact: during the string lasso being blocked, you can pull off some cool stuff like a mid air bd or string slam
String slam is blockable
10:43 Well, that aged like spoiled milk.
Stone free is the ideal stand for yba rn. Its fun, balanced and overall good, thats how stand should feel like. I feel like you influenced paragon /uzu for many of these balances so thanks
There’s a combo with boxing and stone free, first hit them with 1 m1 to confirm kick barrage then when they are on the ground get as close to them as possible then use pilot barrage, as long as they don’t block, after you use pilot barrage, you barrage them, use barrier, then eye gouge then m1 jaw breaker
You also forgot 1 thing about String bandage when you got "Hamon Punch" upgrade on hamon it buffs your heal to 27.5 ik that this isn't much but it still is actually can help you survive after you land a cutscene
the Hamon Punch upgrade legit lies
It does not just buff punches but it buffs heals and im fine with that
Doesnt TWOH have the lowest amount of heal compared to other stands who can heal? Maybe hamon punch might buff it up a little better
Here a tech, string pilot can be use on knockdown people, similar to sc million pricks except auto aim. This basically gives you a free combo. String pilot can be confirm with any knockdown move. It’s best use with skill that stand crashes for example jaw breaker or string slam
Man I’m a fan of all ur vids I’ll be watching the low effort ones. Besides, you work hard on making your videos, you deserve some slack sometimes dude
Stone free definitely sits up there with stands like the world or gold experience. It’s definitely got some sauce that can be used with efficiency and effectively.
I've learned a LOT about stone free , and i can totaly agree about the counterplay , best tips with stone free : never fight an anubis , pls
Eclipse, what are your thoughts on pity now saving whenever you leave a server? Im personally super hyped
Even though the kick barrage on stone free has hyper armor it can still be canceled on startup which I think isn't good. Sptw, sp, and some other kick barraging stands don't have this issue, why should stone free? The fact that everything is cancelable on startup is really bad and you have no good mobility on top of that really makes it near impossible to get out of sticky situations especially when you are low on hp. Which causes stands with good mobility and good pressure to just completely gut the stand with an m1 rush. I like that the moves into cutscenes don't have hyper armor but I think that the kick barrage should have hyper armor on start up and during it, just so that way stone free has one decent get off me tool. Since the only get off me tool currently is a heavy punch that is a free parry or counter to good players. I also think it won't be completely broken because the kick barrage has a reasonable cooldown and stone free doesn't have a good, infinite mobility move like time skip, nor does its lasso act like a stand jump that can't be canceled with an m1. Also what is even worse is that when the move does get canceled stone free still does the kick barrage animation making it so that you can't do any other moves until it's over giving the enemy free damage while you can't fight back until the kick barrage animation is done. This could have changed, but at the time of me testing stone free a few hours ago, it is still cancelable on startup.
I go crazy with stone free and I even made a combo out of the string beatdown when I was playing with the stand for a while so definitely a solid stand
I hope we see a surge of stands like stone free in the near future.
i still hate this update due to lack of content still we got a new stand thatd about it no game modes no specs and no god damed spec storage
This guy made a whole ass power point presentation over this stand. Just wow
honestly, i wish the effort they put in the Stone Free's cutscenes and moves was the same effort placed in other stands but they might do that in a few updates (maybe?)
The fact 1 of the footage was eclipse landing a home run on a slender makes it looks like 5 year old getting bullied
Scary monsters is a buggy mess, sometimes it just stops working now. *I know that happens to other stands where you can’t use moves but it feels like it happens almost every game with sm.*
String Barrier is just a slightly better vaporization freeze.
They both block break
They Freeze you in place, but you can still attack
Jankiest hitboxes
Barrier is just slightly better because it blinds you
new favorite stand. ( also thx for the info it helped a lot! :D )
A tip for string bandage is to spam the shit out of it after using a cutscene move because you'll have the time to heal before your opponent comes to punish you for it. It almost movestacks with the end of cutscene moves it can be triggered that fast.
Cant wait for the BoBs for Stonefree. Might I suggest Stonefree Vamp? I think they might pair well and Vaporization could help get off some of the harder to hit moves
you should do a re-review on ge! its actually really good now and its finally fixed! I would love to see it as one of your next videos!
Oh my god! I am so enraged about the fact that they thought it's a good Idea to now give the players the ability to see the HP of enemies. That is so stupid, I can't believe they actually put thought into adding this..
Why is that such a bad thing? It makes sense especially with the new execution mechanic
@@lukestanley820 because you cannot put pressure on people anymore, when you used to be low but put pressure on the enemy making them think that you are still high on HP..
fun fact. you can CONFIRM a beatdown of of string pilot. so if you trick your enemy into coming close they get beatdowned
Good Video! I wanted to know what you use to edit for a while so... What do you use to edit?
Stone Free Bingo? When?
They should add a fun passive where you can hear in a bigger radius for SBR