This really is the best way to do it. You get the clarity of the 5150 and the cozy compression and rattle of the recto at the same time. Plus you can run stereo effects in actual stereo.
Man, things just sound so much better in stereo. I can't go back to a single amp when playing alone. Hope you keep up this series and see what other cool pairings you find. It's really helpful for us who don't have access to a basement of gear to be able to figure out what amps we like and which amps pair well together.
I've been running a similar stereo rig for a couple weeks now with my Invective 120 and multi-watt Triple Rectifier, with the Invective on an Invective 4x12 and the Rectifier on an oversized rectifier straight cab. Sounds massive. With the way I have them dialed, the Invective is providing most of the low end with Misha's settings, and most of the mids and highs are coming from the rectifier.
I can attest...these two rigs sound ridiculously good together. The pine invective cab gets mean in the lows. My favorite pairing I've yet to hear together.
L run a 2004 dual rec true full stack 8 ohm vintage 30s. And a 1993 jcm900 with factory installed El 34s small delay between the two. 1982 1979 65 watt matching full stack. Mean setup live.
The ultimate recording rig. Personally I would only use a noise gate but just think with all the new high gain amps out now, these two amps have not been beat.
Hard to go wrong with this combination of amps in a live setting. The metalcore band I played with for years, ran this combination. My mk1 5150, his 2ch Dual Rec Rev. C. At least I think it was a Rev C, black plate, chrome chassis, small mesa logo. That thing sounded killer, but the combination of the two just gave us a massive wall of sound that everyone always complimented at our local venues. The thing I remember most about his rectifier was that thing really needed to be fucking LOUD to sound it's best... much more so than newer 3 channel rectifiers I've played. My 5150's post gain needed to be set to at least 4 to keep up with him. We were both using Mesa traditional 4x12s. So yeah... LOUD! Ear plugs were mandatory lol.
The 5150 alone gave me definite Terror vibes. Combined, it was like Buried Alive met Terror and I spit my rage in your face while I sat back and watched you destroy. Good thing I have electronic wipes!
It took me 6-7 years to find a local mf280 cab (and even still had to drive four hours across three states), nice to see someone else has one too. It feels so much more open but a little less tight than the mesa, not sure if it's the construction or the speaker differences (the Mf280 has a T5321 in it).
These definitely sound good together. I’d like to see what complimentary amp you could pair up with a XXX. I have one and I LOVE IT, but would be very curious to see what other amp goes well with it.
The two presence knobs are also of different values. That alone makes for some cool interplay. I especially like the dual-presence "trick" with my Tremoverb. It allows for a faster more cutting vintage mode that sits between vintage and modern mode. Orange's presence in the afternoon range will have you setting the red's presence more like you would in modern, but probably not quite as low.
There's something about close up guitar mic tone where the more I listen to it the more uninspired I become about playing metal. I prefer the tone of my guitar into an overdrive into amp into mixer.
damn beeen following this channel for a while now and this is actually the best metal tone you've ever dialed in. I like this one even more than when you had the mezza/stealth combined. This would be my goto rig if i were in your shoes bud
So cool ..I just got a 5150 partly cuz of your vidz I love it …but I have been running two FRFRs with either pod go or headrush and really love playing live in stereo time based effects bounce all over the place but a tube stereo hell yeah !!!
I have the unpopular opinion that Selected Marshall models do a great job production h a solid tone. I have lots of other amps that seem like they have more bite or more lows but you end up cutting so many away later on. The Marshall 2203/4 or 2210/05 have great gain structure and hit where it counts imho. Plenty moldable low end and mids where it hits. Get a good cab and you’re gold. Granted I like a lot of other amps. I play a few Kranks, a Carvin, a Mesa single recto and noodle in the Axe FX and positive grid practice amp. I’ve found cabs ultimately matter more to tone than the heads do.
Another sick video bro! Belligerence indeed lol. Maybe a question or topic you could address in one of your FAQ'n Friday sessions, but, what are the "maintenance" and/or upkeep things you do with the amps you end keeping, or have had for a long time? Ex/ when do you swap pre-amp and power-amp tubes, if at all? Do you change filter caps, resistors, or any components after a while? Anything along those lines. Keep 'em coming man!
I love that you are a diamond in the riff!! How long have your been playing guitar. Yea I normally play in drop d half step. Miss the sound of a classic st guitar.
@@belligerentamateur we want video 😁 i heard it only in live situation, but not in studio situation. Probably one of the best combo for modern rock/metal. Dual rec and DLS2000 are so different they compliment each other very well.
Can you please try out the cr120 head from orange?? its supposed to be a solid state version of the rockerverb and i just want to hear it played with solid metal riffs through an overdrive into the amp with a good 4x12 cab. Everyone classifies it as a good doom metal amp but i want to see how tight you can play it with your tight chugging technique.
What about throwing an eq into the fx loop and dialing the 400hz range back a little to minimize the woof? p.s. flirting with Kreator tones there chief
What do you think of the DV77’s is it worth it to swap out a couple of V30’s does it blend well? or just keep the Mesa cab factory, I’m looking at doing this too
God I love that full bodied low end on amps like these! Just a shame I don't have the bankroll for them 😐 Hoping the joyo amp sim Cali pedal I ordered is going to get me close
Can someone explain the difference of stereo vs mono amps? 2 of my amps are switchable from one to the other i believe but if i dont know about something i leave it alone. This is a serious question not a joke. Been playing for years now and dont know the difference except ive had a amp that was just a stereo amp which was the positive grid spark 40. But i just dont know the difference between mono and stereo and the goods and bads with both. Any help is much appreciated.
Mesa sounds dam good , but when he switched over to the 5150 holy crap, brutal crunch . 5150 sounds more open, Mesa not as open , but still great . Bottom line two great amps, pick your poison 👍🙏😭😂
Tell me how much you love that Schecter sls Evil Twin. Are those guitars badass or what ? I have the V-1....love it. It's an amazing beast of a shredder
Trying to put together a rig for my band. We’re heavily influenced by Zao, Coalesce, Turmoil, and Buried Alive. Already have a 6505 and I was wondering if you’d pair it with a Dual or a Triple Rectifier? Also which amp would you suggest for rhythm and which for the lead? Anyone reading this please feel free to respond. It would be much appreciated!
Typically the dual rec is the rythem amp and the 6505 would be the lead. That said if you quad track them... you can do 2 of each amp on rythem and 2 of each amp on lead. Then you could make the rec's louder on rythem and 6505 louder on lead. Get a really cool tone.
You could combine the 6505 with an orange amp like the rockerverb 3 or th30, you could do a mesa stiletto stage 2 or even a laney ironheart as your rythem.
This really is the best way to do it. You get the clarity of the 5150 and the cozy compression and rattle of the recto at the same time. Plus you can run stereo effects in actual stereo.
Man, things just sound so much better in stereo. I can't go back to a single amp when playing alone. Hope you keep up this series and see what other cool pairings you find. It's really helpful for us who don't have access to a basement of gear to be able to figure out what amps we like and which amps pair well together.
Dual cab works too.
I've been running a similar stereo rig for a couple weeks now with my Invective 120 and multi-watt Triple Rectifier, with the Invective on an Invective 4x12 and the Rectifier on an oversized rectifier straight cab. Sounds massive. With the way I have them dialed, the Invective is providing most of the low end with Misha's settings, and most of the mids and highs are coming from the rectifier.
what channel on the invective?
@@thehoppo lead channel with the built-in boost and gate on.
I can attest...these two rigs sound ridiculously good together. The pine invective cab gets mean in the lows. My favorite pairing I've yet to hear together.
L run a 2004 dual rec true full stack 8 ohm vintage 30s. And a 1993 jcm900 with factory installed El 34s small delay between the two. 1982 1979 65 watt matching full stack. Mean setup live.
Literally Tom delonge Combo over here! haham I bet that sounds heavenly
The ultimate recording rig. Personally I would only use a noise gate but just think with all the new high gain amps out now, these two amps have not been beat.
Hard to go wrong with this combination of amps in a live setting. The metalcore band I played with for years, ran this combination. My mk1 5150, his 2ch Dual Rec Rev. C. At least I think it was a Rev C, black plate, chrome chassis, small mesa logo. That thing sounded killer, but the combination of the two just gave us a massive wall of sound that everyone always complimented at our local venues.
The thing I remember most about his rectifier was that thing really needed to be fucking LOUD to sound it's best... much more so than newer 3 channel rectifiers I've played. My 5150's post gain needed to be set to at least 4 to keep up with him. We were both using Mesa traditional 4x12s. So yeah... LOUD! Ear plugs were mandatory lol.
BEST tone so far imo.
The 5150 alone gave me definite Terror vibes. Combined, it was like Buried Alive met Terror and I spit my rage in your face while I sat back and watched you destroy. Good thing I have electronic wipes!
They sound more similar than not. That Soldano sound is evident in both.
It took me 6-7 years to find a local mf280 cab (and even still had to drive four hours across three states), nice to see someone else has one too. It feels so much more open but a little less tight than the mesa, not sure if it's the construction or the speaker differences (the Mf280 has a T5321 in it).
Marshall rare sighting 👀 - great video
These sound sick together right off the bat!
These definitely sound good together. I’d like to see what complimentary amp you could pair up with a XXX. I have one and I LOVE IT, but would be very curious to see what other amp goes well with it.
Yeah I want to pair my xxx up with my evh stealth.
Engl fireball goes great with triple rec
Been playing TWO amps since 1974 and do today because sounds Best for old Sabath !
Both amps pair great because they are built from the SLO circuit. EVH amps pair nicely as well. Again SLO build circuit is the key. Cool video.
Excellent video Kyle. Thanks for putting in the effort.
Absolutely monstrous.
The two presence knobs are also of different values. That alone makes for some cool interplay.
I especially like the dual-presence "trick" with my Tremoverb. It allows for a faster more cutting vintage mode that sits between vintage and modern mode. Orange's presence in the afternoon range will have you setting the red's presence more like you would in modern, but probably not quite as low.
Didn’t expect to hear megadeth, that was a pleasant surprise!! You rocked it, and the blend of the two amps sounded killer.
Great Leeway hommage! Thanx
Suena a destrucción, maldita sea, pura destrucción jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
I thought Fishmans had a switch to go from active to passive too but found out it is a coil tap function. They are active pickups
Depends on the model, the modern definitely does have 2 voicings, active and passive, as well as coil tapping.
I blend an Engel and a Marshall Silver Jubilee!
There's something about close up guitar mic tone where the more I listen to it the more uninspired I become about playing metal. I prefer the tone of my guitar into an overdrive into amp into mixer.
damn beeen following this channel for a while now and this is actually the best metal tone you've ever dialed in. I like this one even more than when you had the mezza/stealth combined. This would be my goto rig if i were in your shoes bud
That Narc was pretty brutal. Great to hear these amps together.
So cool ..I just got a 5150 partly cuz of your vidz I love it …but I have been running two FRFRs with either pod go or headrush and really love playing live in stereo time based effects bounce all over the place but a tube stereo hell yeah !!!
Everyone likes a little "Big lot scoopy" every now and then
That combo is nuts.
I have the unpopular opinion that Selected Marshall models do a great job production h a solid tone. I have lots of other amps that seem like they have more bite or more lows but you end up cutting so many away later on. The Marshall 2203/4 or 2210/05 have great gain structure and hit where it counts imho. Plenty moldable low end and mids where it hits. Get a good cab and you’re gold.
Granted I like a lot of other amps. I play a few Kranks, a Carvin, a Mesa single recto and noodle in the Axe FX and positive grid practice amp. I’ve found cabs ultimately matter more to tone than the heads do.
Mannn imma need you to get a kemper so you can profile some of these killer tones!
Nissssssssssssssssssce 🍻
Peanut butter & Jelly time!🎸
Another sick video bro! Belligerence indeed lol. Maybe a question or topic you could address in one of your FAQ'n Friday sessions, but, what are the "maintenance" and/or upkeep things you do with the amps you end keeping, or have had for a long time? Ex/ when do you swap pre-amp and power-amp tubes, if at all? Do you change filter caps, resistors, or any components after a while? Anything along those lines. Keep 'em coming man!
Kyle your in the band evil medallion ?
man, this is a sick rig....really love this combo. f hell
Dude, can you profile this sound for Neural DSP Quad Cortex
How do you hook the two heads and cabs up?
Awesome video! Do you have a ballpark of how high the gain was on the mesa?
Did you try the Evil Twin 8? I was shocked that you only had the 6 string version. BTW like the video, good tip for recording.
I love that you are a diamond in the riff!!
How long have your been playing guitar.
Yea I normally play in drop d half step.
Miss the sound of a classic st guitar.
Sounds crazy good.
It would be cool to hear a Mesa blended with a Splawn.
Awesome sound. I must try this with my amp sims 🤘
FWIW I had great results with an orange crush (with an hm-2 as a boost) sim and a Mesa mk3 sim. Both freeware. (Tonelib gfx for the crush).
Sounds so SICK!!
Great combination is JCM2000 and Dual Ractifier. You should try it if you didn't already :)
Def a great combo!
@@belligerentamateur we want video 😁 i heard it only in live situation, but not in studio situation. Probably one of the best combo for modern rock/metal. Dual rec and DLS2000 are so different they compliment each other very well.
That’s my exact setup. It’s beastly
Can you please try out the cr120 head from orange?? its supposed to be a solid state version of the rockerverb and i just want to hear it played with solid metal riffs through an overdrive into the amp with a good 4x12 cab. Everyone classifies it as a good doom metal amp but i want to see how tight you can play it with your tight chugging technique.
x2 slightly different amps, both clones/knockoffs of the same amp (soldano SLO)... nice
What about throwing an eq into the fx loop and dialing the 400hz range back a little to minimize the woof?
p.s. flirting with Kreator tones there chief
What do you think of the DV77’s is it worth it to swap out a couple of V30’s does it blend well? or just keep the Mesa cab factory, I’m looking at doing this too
Sick!!!!! Love the schecter too!!!
God I love that full bodied low end on amps like these! Just a shame I don't have the bankroll for them 😐
Hoping the joyo amp sim Cali pedal I ordered is going to get me close
Can someone explain the difference of stereo vs mono amps? 2 of my amps are switchable from one to the other i believe but if i dont know about something i leave it alone. This is a serious question not a joke. Been playing for years now and dont know the difference except ive had a amp that was just a stereo amp which was the positive grid spark 40. But i just dont know the difference between mono and stereo and the goods and bads with both. Any help is much appreciated.
Is the sock included
Mesa sounds dam good , but when he switched over to the 5150 holy crap, brutal crunch . 5150 sounds more open, Mesa not as open , but still great . Bottom line two great amps, pick your poison 👍🙏😭😂
Tell me how much you love that Schecter sls Evil Twin. Are those guitars badass or what ? I have the V-1....love it. It's an amazing beast of a shredder
Absolutely love it. I have the SLS Elite PT as well, both are fucking stellar
Have you ever tried the Fender mh 500? Some say it's a hidden gem and some hate it. Might make for an interesting video.
Does the #TrebleZero trick work on the Mark V line?
That's a kick ass Schecter. PT Evil Twin?
Thanks for the vid sounds great. Would be good to hear this in a mix tho.
Listen to every hardcore record of the early 2000's. Haha
Trying to put together a rig for my band. We’re heavily influenced by Zao, Coalesce, Turmoil, and Buried Alive. Already have a 6505 and I was wondering if you’d pair it with a Dual or a Triple Rectifier? Also which amp would you suggest for rhythm and which for the lead? Anyone reading this please feel free to respond. It would be much appreciated!
Typically the dual rec is the rythem amp and the 6505 would be the lead. That said if you quad track them... you can do 2 of each amp on rythem and 2 of each amp on lead. Then you could make the rec's louder on rythem and 6505 louder on lead. Get a really cool tone.
You could combine the 6505 with an orange amp like the rockerverb 3 or th30, you could do a mesa stiletto stage 2 or even a laney ironheart as your rythem.
Sounds fucking amazing! Perfect match!
Nice video love it! 👍👍👍
Rock on man
That's chunky
Nothing better than stereo and if that’s the revv hat I want it lol 🤘🏼
Boshido code rules🤘🏼
awesome \m/ Tight as!
Best video yet - so freakin chunky!
Dude, 5150
6.66K subscribers! lol
666 subscribers \,,,/ sweet \,,,/
I dig your channel, but your tone was always too dry for my taste. This is the best tone you had so far. In my opinion at least.
5150 is better