I can fully recommend getting an airbrush to assist in painting. I've done several colors up on over 150 boyz so far in only a handful of hours. Not finished, but way closer than I was.
Things to note: Trukk + Tank Shot Strat is pure gold. Beast Boss + Fallback & Charge Enchantment Cunning but Brutal is cool, you can charge each turn even if you stuck in. Nobz + Trukks + Buff charakter are better than Mega Nobz. Megas just got too few Attacks. And if you don't spam High T and Save models they will just get focused by the enemy anti tank. Because they are simply the only real high save target. The Squigbuggy is expensive. And more so if you spent a Mek standing besides him. His Gun will seldom gets its points back. Ya you can shoot hidden targets, but I don't see it as a rly nice unit. Imo Infiltrate and Scout moves are so important this edition. So play your Zodgrod and Kommandos.
Big Mek is definitely the move if you want to lean in to durability. The Warboss moving the unit off of 4+s to hit is pretty huge if you're wanting to lean into damage though.
@@Dre0oqghaz does it better than the warlord though and you have an extre damage having him protected by the meganobz you star with him and 5 meganobz inside a trukk and have fun
@@Dre0oq about price point true , about truck fit just enjoy while you can since we know is gonna be patched, I'm sad cause I don't even have trukks cause I just started building my army and by the point I get everything they probably gonna be patched already
Nobs with Warboss is my MVP every game in 10th. Also, they have the Grenade keyword, and they are usually within 8" of a nice target before I charge. If the Gretchen got me extra CP, I use it for that, otherwise this is also the unit I choose for Unbridled Carnage.
@@Stevie28 Not with Nobs. I do have one with my Burna boys. They don’t do nearly as much damage, but they do survive. I usually use them to tie up a shooty unit thats covering an objective.
I once Careen! My Killrig into the enemies Artillery backline and did 11 mortal wounds in total. The cherry on top is that the opponent miracle diced the explode check to a 6, expecting it to blow up my units on the objective 😂
Just bought and built war bikes and I'm getting the combat patrol come payday. Played them as a kid, had the old orks vs marines box with the deffkopters and dreadnought from I think it was the fifth edition starter box (assault on black reach), win or lose orks are always a god laugh
Awesome video! Kunnin’ but brutal is great on a Beast boss, as he gets dev wounds on the charge and has 4+ anti vehicle/monster. That said it doesn’t always come up, but if you’ve got 15 points is excellent in case you charge something that doesn’t die or you get tied up by something that’s not vehicle/monster. We all know how good anti-x + dev wounds is so having that more reliably is very helpful👌
Bit of a noob here, but since you asked when Kunnin but Brutal would be used, I have it on a bike leader. I can pull back, let my shooty stuff shoot the target, then charge again. My other big use is changing targets. If the unit I'm stuck in melee with doesn't have enough left to be worth keeping the bikers tied up I can withdraw and charge something else. Additional info, I'm running the forgeworld unit Nobz on Bikes who have power stabbas which have the lance rule, so it's good in that regard too.
some big things they nerfed that ended up hurting Orks more that they deserved Lost +1S on charge No more reroll charges armywide Waaagh only one turn, the ekstra turn of +1A, +1S was relevant And power clawz hitting on 4+ while only being S9 (was 10 or 12 before) and still loosing ap
Honestly 'Ere We Go has been a game changer for me a few times. Pop it on some Nobz or Meganobz and they will almost always make their charge and kill whatever they hit.
Haha I struggled to be honest the light behind the main camera is like a sun and I've got an eye condition that makes it very hard to look at. Something to work on!
In addition I’d say you two have great banter and presence and show your love and enthusiasm which get the idea of the stream conveyed much better than a more structured presentation.Tell Box you need to be on the channel more often.
I’m not sure if I’m missing anything but at 9:42 they mention Super Cybork Body on the DeffKilla Wartrike. The Deeffkilla Wartrike is a warboss and a leader but is not a character so cannot currently have enhancements on him
I ran him with 20 grots 2 Runt herder's ran them straight into Karanak and his hounds softened up with shooting then wiped the quad leaving Karanak on 1 wound. Zodgrods was then targeted with precision and died. The grots still stuck around the whole game farming CP. I really enjoyed running them
In the points manual, it specifically lists Ghazghkull Thraka as being 2 models, so does seem like it's intended, but who knows, maybe they'll change it?
I'm going Blood axes, tactical building hopping with flash gitz for overwatch. Character heavy, each with their corresponding bodyguard if possible. The maps for my tourny this weekend are building and terrain heavy, so it doesn't appear getting truks around the board would be easy.
The Mek only gives +1 to hit on an Ork vehicle MODEL. So, not a big deal with singular vehicle but let’s say a group of 6 Killa Kans, only one model in that unit is getting +1 not the whole unit itself.
so these are Mikes Orks, we unfortunately didn't have many to take pictures of at the time but ill ask mike to see if he would be willing to share maybe on instagram
Will you guys be doing a How to Play T’au video. I’m new to the game and I’m struggling to discover combos and cool synergies with strategems (granted I haven’t actually played a game of warhammer)
ghaz+makari =18 they also erratad that ghaz can't go in a trukk or hunter/kill rig if you running ghaz you run him on foot with 6 meganobz that unit becomes a sink hole for your opponenet either they ignore it and you get free objectives and points or they spend 1-2 turns using their entire army to remove it
I was just reading up on the ghaz and makari. One person Mentone that even the battle wagon is referencing space, it's looking at keywords. At first i tight this would mean makari was includes. Now thought technically makari would take up 18 slots since he has the "ghaz" keywords.
So as things stand u can take ghaz +5 meganobs into a truck , ghaz is infanty takes 3 slots with makari, also meganob dont have mega armor key word so they also take only 1 slot in transport :D
RAW (rules as written) Ghaz only takes one spot in a trukk and one for makari. Also mega nobs only take one spot, they dont have mega armor keyword ... just another example of GWs care for details when it comes to rules
@@sumsarprat Name the tournament that let you do it. Also, what's the point in playing and using a tactic that is undoubtedly going to be faq'd? You're not learning or being a better player, you're only abusing a loophole.
guys i charged Ghazkull and a 6 man meganob at 2 wardogs. ghazkull killed the 1 wardog easy. The 6 man meganobz did not manage to kill a wardog. it was my waagh turn. so they are not that good.
Bought my first 40K army as Orks! 2500 points and have been spending a ton of time putting them together… I love them so much, what a great time.
I can fully recommend getting an airbrush to assist in painting. I've done several colors up on over 150 boyz so far in only a handful of hours. Not finished, but way closer than I was.
A man of culture, glad to have you on board for the waaaagh! Godspeed king
I haven't been able to get the money to try playing but the orcs have always looked so fun to play, I love the concept of WAAAAAGH
Nobz with power klaws, Warboss with follow me ladz in a Trukk is one of the best combos in the index right now.
Things to note:
Trukk + Tank Shot Strat is pure gold.
Beast Boss + Fallback & Charge Enchantment Cunning but Brutal is cool, you can charge each turn even if you stuck in.
Nobz + Trukks + Buff charakter are better than Mega Nobz. Megas just got too few Attacks. And if you don't spam High T and Save models they will just get focused by the enemy anti tank. Because they are simply the only real high save target.
The Squigbuggy is expensive. And more so if you spent a Mek standing besides him. His Gun will seldom gets its points back. Ya you can shoot hidden targets, but I don't see it as a rly nice unit.
Imo Infiltrate and Scout moves are so important this edition. So play your Zodgrod and Kommandos.
ORKS, ORKS, ORKS, ORKS ORKS!
WAAAAAAAGH
Orks,orks,orks,orks
I think the big mek in mega armor works better with the mega nobz. He allows you to return 1 destroyed bodyguard to that unit.
Big Mek is definitely the move if you want to lean in to durability. The Warboss moving the unit off of 4+s to hit is pretty huge if you're wanting to lean into damage though.
@@Dre0oqghaz does it better than the warlord though and you have an extre damage having him protected by the meganobz you star with him and 5 meganobz inside a trukk and have fun
@Tester-lw2ob Sure, but Ghaz is twice as expensive and him fitting in a truck is likely to get FAQ'd since he's 18 models in the Battlewagon.
@@Dre0oq about price point true , about truck fit just enjoy while you can since we know is gonna be patched, I'm sad cause I don't even have trukks cause I just started building my army and by the point I get everything they probably gonna be patched already
Big Mek in MA brings a model back to the unit on every one of your command phases
Nobs with Warboss is my MVP every game in 10th. Also, they have the Grenade keyword, and they are usually within 8" of a nice target before I charge. If the Gretchen got me extra CP, I use it for that, otherwise this is also the unit I choose for Unbridled Carnage.
Did you try the painboy instead of the Warboss? I'm torn but I'm leaning towards Warboss as well
@@Stevie28 Not with Nobs. I do have one with my Burna boys. They don’t do nearly as much damage, but they do survive. I usually use them to tie up a shooty unit thats covering an objective.
@@Stevie28 works but just isn't as good as that -1 to wound, no need to rez units if they didn't die
I just got into Warhammer and I’m excited to take the Orks into war. WAGHHHHHH!
I once Careen! My Killrig into the enemies Artillery backline and did 11 mortal wounds in total.
The cherry on top is that the opponent miracle diced the explode check to a 6, expecting it to blow up my units on the objective 😂
Very orky! They shouldn't have been able to explode with a miracle dice though, you can't use them for a deadly demise roll.
@@UKscalemodeller That's one of our more mild house rules
Best example of "careful what you pray for" :D
Just bought and built war bikes and I'm getting the combat patrol come payday. Played them as a kid, had the old orks vs marines box with the deffkopters and dreadnought from I think it was the fifth edition starter box (assault on black reach), win or lose orks are always a god laugh
Assault on Black Reach was my intro too, amazing box
'Ere we go!
'Ere we go!
'Ere we go!
Awesome video! Kunnin’ but brutal is great on a Beast boss, as he gets dev wounds on the charge and has 4+ anti vehicle/monster. That said it doesn’t always come up, but if you’ve got 15 points is excellent in case you charge something that doesn’t die or you get tied up by something that’s not vehicle/monster. We all know how good anti-x + dev wounds is so having that more reliably is very helpful👌
Was going to say, that double charge or disengage and charge something else seems great on them. If only the Killchoppa wasn't so great as well...
@@ViolosD2I yeah killchoppa is auto take imo, but I prefer mine on a squig nob with a unit of squighogs personally :)
Im coming back to he hobby and Orks as my first choice after years of being a Chaos lover
Bit of a noob here, but since you asked when Kunnin but Brutal would be used, I have it on a bike leader. I can pull back, let my shooty stuff shoot the target, then charge again.
My other big use is changing targets. If the unit I'm stuck in melee with doesn't have enough left to be worth keeping the bikers tied up I can withdraw and charge something else.
Additional info, I'm running the forgeworld unit Nobz on Bikes who have power stabbas which have the lance rule, so it's good in that regard too.
some big things they nerfed that ended up hurting Orks more that they deserved
Lost +1S on charge
No more reroll charges armywide
Waaagh only one turn, the ekstra turn of +1A, +1S was relevant
And power clawz hitting on 4+ while only being S9 (was 10 or 12 before) and still loosing ap
"Loosing?"
Want to pull off the careen maneuver so badly.
Brainstorming a heavy vehicle team so careen should create some hilarious situations.
Honestly 'Ere We Go has been a game changer for me a few times. Pop it on some Nobz or Meganobz and they will almost always make their charge and kill whatever they hit.
Maybe having one camera angle for the lads to look in is better as even I didn’t know where to look 😂. Great video, lots of passion and enthusiasm.
Haha I struggled to be honest the light behind the main camera is like a sun and I've got an eye condition that makes it very hard to look at. Something to work on!
In addition I’d say you two have great banter and presence and show your love and enthusiasm which get the idea of the stream conveyed much better than a more structured presentation.Tell Box you need to be on the channel more often.
11:15 The moment when he dreams of Gretchins with -1 on Wound Roll and does not yet know about Zodgrod Wortsnagga. 😅
This was a very cool video. Now I gotta get me a Rukkatrukk
I’m not sure if I’m missing anything but at 9:42 they mention Super Cybork Body on the DeffKilla Wartrike. The Deeffkilla Wartrike is a warboss and a leader but is not a character so cannot currently have enhancements on him
The official app has him as a character and able to take enhancement
@@jakew5115 the warhammer 40,000 app? Is there an update or something? He still shows up as an “other data sheet” option for me?
@@jonathancelis8269sorry I was looking at the warboss on warbike, apologies for the confusion
@@jakew5115 you’re all good lol, I just want to run my Wartrike with the 4+ feel no pain😭
ah damn that sucks lol, apologies I was assuming he could as I thought he would be a character, thank you for clarifying that
What do you guys think of zodgrods abilty with gretchin?
9 inch scout move, +1 to hits and wounds and a -1 to wounds
I’m going to try it. If nothing more to draw out shooting away from key units.
I ran him with 20 grots 2 Runt herder's ran them straight into Karanak and his hounds softened up with shooting then wiped the quad leaving Karanak on 1 wound. Zodgrods was then targeted with precision and died. The grots still stuck around the whole game farming CP. I really enjoyed running them
@@woppowop7025 Thank you I am running that same setup very soon
I ran them now on 5 games and i think ist not worth the points only the sweet grots
Really don't think Ghaz and Makari are 19 slots. Makari is part of Ghaz's unit. He's not added. But it will be clarified...
In the points manual, it specifically lists Ghazghkull Thraka as being 2 models, so does seem like it's intended, but who knows, maybe they'll change it?
yeah its a weird one, Im sure GW will address these things sooner rather than later :)
Orkz is the best! Krumpin time!
I'm new and this is the army I want to play
I'm going Blood axes, tactical building hopping with flash gitz for overwatch. Character heavy, each with their corresponding bodyguard if possible. The maps for my tourny this weekend are building and terrain heavy, so it doesn't appear getting truks around the board would be easy.
Ghaz should take up 10 or 12 space's in a transport, which reflects on his number of wounds
Careen won me a game lol
Trucks moving, killing, then unloading is
The Mek only gives +1 to hit on an Ork vehicle MODEL. So, not a big deal with singular vehicle but let’s say a group of 6 Killa Kans, only one model in that unit is getting +1 not the whole unit itself.
How do you not give a good and loud Waaagh? This guy sus 😏
where can i find pictures of the ork models close up, look like you have some interesting conversions would love to take a look
so these are Mikes Orks, we unfortunately didn't have many to take pictures of at the time but ill ask mike to see if he would be willing to share maybe on instagram
@@VT_Jordbrilliant that would be great!
And my 6 man squighog boyz ran forward. got ard as nails. and got butchered by the CK army.
i haven't started playing yet, but im in the process of building my first 1k army.
Will you guys be doing a How to Play T’au video. I’m new to the game and I’m struggling to discover combos and cool synergies with strategems (granted I haven’t actually played a game of warhammer)
We are indeed, we have it scheduled so will be out in next few weeks dude :)
@@VT_Jord Awesome, you guys are great. Keep up the great content. It really does benefit everybody in becoming better players on and off the table!
ghaz+makari =18 they also erratad that ghaz can't go in a trukk or hunter/kill rig
if you running ghaz you run him on foot with 6 meganobz that unit becomes a sink hole for your opponenet either they ignore it and you get free objectives and points or they spend 1-2 turns using their entire army to remove it
Or, Battle Wagon transport for the big boy
What do you think about Burma Boyz in a trukk?
It’s most definitely a useful combo but will be very match dependent in my opinion you’ll struggle taking out heavily armoured units.
And also they are losing the ability burna boyz are crazy bad right now
Just waiting for WES!....
if you think a mekboy is good next to a squigbuggy, imagine him next to a morkanaut
The combo of shying buggy and mek. Are the +1 to hit infantry and +1 to hit from mek stackable meaning hitting infantry on a 3+
?
Thanks
41:05 squighogs are not vehicles. Anti-Tank wont work.
warhammer is the best!
“Kombat”
I play a pure beast snagga army. Gotta say deamons nids guard and admech don't stand a chance don't stand a chance against
I have a salty ork player in my group. He doesn’t want Trukks or to play meta; what do?
I was just reading up on the ghaz and makari. One person Mentone that even the battle wagon is referencing space, it's looking at keywords. At first i tight this would mean makari was includes. Now thought technically makari would take up 18 slots since he has the "ghaz" keywords.
I've been told that a Warboss, Weird boy and a mob of 20 Boyz can do a lot of damage
Let’s get a battle report out please I would love to watch it
Working on one as we speak so hopefully that will be soon
So as things stand u can take ghaz +5 meganobs into a truck , ghaz is infanty takes 3 slots with makari, also meganob dont have mega armor key word so they also take only 1 slot in transport :D
Under the profile of there trukk it says each mega nob takes up the space of two models.
RAW (rules as written) Ghaz only takes one spot in a trukk and one for makari. Also mega nobs only take one spot, they dont have mega armor keyword ... just another example of GWs care for details when it comes to rules
And I don't foresee a single tournament letting you do this.
Most turnaments does :) its raw so...
Thing is, against the top meta armies it does´nt matter, so they dont realy care
@@sumsarprat Name the tournament that let you do it. Also, what's the point in playing and using a tactic that is undoubtedly going to be faq'd? You're not learning or being a better player, you're only abusing a loophole.
Please make Sororitas next
guys i charged Ghazkull and a 6 man meganob at 2 wardogs. ghazkull killed the 1 wardog easy. The 6 man meganobz did not manage to kill a wardog. it was my waagh turn. so they are not that good.
If you Hate Orks you are not a real warhammer gamer
My Evil Sunz Know that! So lets get loogin! My Ork brothas!
What orks belive comes true so why cant Gazz fit in the truck ,if he thinks he can soooo🤔🤔🧐🤣
Ghaz is literally too smart for his own good.
until GW clarifies. I'm currently having ghaz + 6 meganobz in a trukk. just because it is allowed as per current keyword ruling.
how so? Ork magic.
yeah in the first errates not only will Ghaz not be allowed in trukks anymore, but also the Meganboz got the keyword Mega Armour added; sad T-T
Why have the models in front of you & not show them at all?
As a world eaters player I feel the writers got mixed up when writing these 2 armies.
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If Markari is included in Gazguls kit doesn't he count within the 18 models so gazgul alone
would be 17 models
Count them both as the same model. Makari + Ghaz = 18 models, Makari or Ghaz alone also is 18 models since the datasheet is "Ghaz".