All 3 in ONE sitting! You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar, email me at steelcast27@gmail.com (if you have a gmail account, it would be best) I would like to send you a token of appreciation.
You're an awesome teacher and I appreciate this content so much !! Guna have to go check all your content out but atm I'm rewatching this series over and over haha
**hi, guys, I feel I should mention that the damper recommendations are VERY basic. Damper settings are very situational and they require offset balancing to be done correctly. Ill be attempting to explain this more thoroughly in the “advanced” chapter to come.**
Thats right. The higher the # the more force (weight, load, aero load) to move the component a specific distance (spring) or distance in a specific time (damper).
Got the game recently and this came across my feed. Good video till you showed the damping graph. Now Im getting ptsdfrom my dynamics and control exam 🤣
When you begin setting up a vehicle, is there a certain pattern you work in? For example, you get your tire pressures figured out first, then move into suspension, and lastly drivetrain? Some items have bigger changes than others, so do you have a certain pattern you use to get the big items where you want them, then smaller items dial in settings even more? Also, often times the way setups work in the real world don't translate into a sim. A lot of times, the fastest drivers are fast because they know how to manipulate the particular sim to get results that would never work in real life. Are there setup items that can be manipulated in AMS 2 that those "behind the curtain" know about but the avg person would never even think to try because technically it should not work?
My workflow is flexible. During the first few installation laps I try and identify anything major. brake bias, pressure, differential, aero. I'm always tinkering with pressures and cambers. There really is no, "fix one thing and move to the next thing" because making changes in one area can and will effect the others. tldr I concentrate on things that can lead to spins when testing and work my way from there. As I am not speaking from the inside and being able to confirm things, my impression based on my work in AMS2 (as opposed to other games) is that Reiza is developing a physics package first and the cars are a reflection of that package. Any perceived flaws in the physics of a particular car are then adjusted based on that particular car. I distinguish this from programming a "driver feel" first and then programming the setup physics after the fact. I mention this, because the later method is where I feel sims can have some gray areas. That being said, the viscous LSD used to be enabled, and it did have an effect on the cars handling, however this was recently disabled. I never showcased how to use the viscous options because this could have been interpreted as a glitch. Not a major glitch mind you, because whatever you could have done to the viscous could have also been done with the clutch lsd adjustments. But to answer you question directly, no. Everything in AMS2 has an effect and all of the setup options are true to their real life counterparts.
@@Steelcast27 Really appreciate your feedback and yes glitch is the perfect word to describe how people actively look for manipulations and exploit them to go faster. It is great to hear that AMS2 really works to close any open perceived glitches so people do not use them to their advantage. Thank you sir!
LMAO...your memes are awesome. Great way to lighten up a heavy conversation...great info in this video. Kudos to you as this is SUCH a tough topic to explain but you do it well.
Does all of this apply to the formula cars as well? I mean like your tyre temp ideas, are these the same when the wheels are open wheels in terms of the IMO temps etc? I wonder if there was a car you usually drive that you had in mind when making this video series? Not saying you were , just curious as so many people only play the GT3 cars these days, I am more a formula car guy, especially the older ones
Awesome vid very helpful. The only issue I have is on my settings for slow bump & slow rebound ect. I just have 1 - 8 instead of Nm / n/m/s is there a setting I need to change ?
Any thoughts (maybe in a detailed video) about the overall force of the ARBs, rather than their ratio (front to back)? Say you start with both ARBs = 0 and work your way up to the right balance, compared to have overall stiffer ARBs with the same balance. So much to dive in here. Cheers. :)
When your doing intense setup work, it takes time. A lot of laps. A lot of data. So speeding this up in any way possible is a good idea. There are documented references for things like appropriate stiffness for each class of car. So you test, hit those marks and fine tune from there. Testing sway bars at 0 isnt necessary, because its not practical. But thats not to say its wrong to do that. All that matters is if you end up in the right place. For those without telemetry a good metric for overall stiffness is tire temps. Softness will load up one side over the other, so you might have overheated tires on one side and cold tores on the other. Not to mention how sluggish the car would feel. ARBs are simply a way to maintain cornering stiffness but allow softer springs for bumps/kerbs.
That's in the works. Perhaps not a thrilling as you might expect. Telemetry doesn't provide answers, it really just gives you a better grasp of what's going on, which can be quite a mess. I still use the principles in the video first, the telemetry helps confirm positive improvements and the effects on other aspects, which could be off-set by negative aspects. So still a lot of trial and error and testing and resetting.
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Brilliantly articulated all three videos learnt more with these videos than an expensive set up manual keep up the good work 👍
Nice one again! I really like how you give the essential information in a relative short video!
Thanks again Arthur!
Best setup guide I've ever seen, I just watched all 3 parts.Awesome! Keep up the great work
All 3 in ONE sitting! You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar, email me at steelcast27@gmail.com (if you have a gmail account, it would be best) I would like to send you a token of appreciation.
You're an awesome teacher and I appreciate this content so much !! Guna have to go check all your content out but atm I'm rewatching this series over and over haha
**hi, guys, I feel I should mention that the damper recommendations are VERY basic. Damper settings are very situational and they require offset balancing to be done correctly. Ill be attempting to explain this more thoroughly in the “advanced” chapter to come.**
Great work helps a lot. Thanks
Glad to help. Thx for the sub!
Good thing about AMS2 is, you actually feel very detailed what you changed. So much fun working on a new setup. Thnx for the tips!
Yeah, especially when it comes together.
Great, You have really have effort on this. Btw you can publish a guide on steam based on your side notes. Waiting for the next episodes. 👌🏼
Hi Tolga, Thanks. That's a really great idea as well.
Thank you !
You're welcome! Let me know if it helps.
I am assuming the higher the number on the slider, the stiffer the setting correct?
Thats right. The higher the # the more force (weight, load, aero load) to move the component a specific distance (spring) or distance in a specific time (damper).
Got the game recently and this came across my feed. Good video till you showed the damping graph. Now Im getting ptsdfrom my dynamics and control exam 🤣
I made a shorter video just on damping if you’d like to go for a full lobotomy.
When you begin setting up a vehicle, is there a certain pattern you work in? For example, you get your tire pressures figured out first, then move into suspension, and lastly drivetrain? Some items have bigger changes than others, so do you have a certain pattern you use to get the big items where you want them, then smaller items dial in settings even more?
Also, often times the way setups work in the real world don't translate into a sim. A lot of times, the fastest drivers are fast because they know how to manipulate the particular sim to get results that would never work in real life. Are there setup items that can be manipulated in AMS 2 that those "behind the curtain" know about but the avg person would never even think to try because technically it should not work?
My workflow is flexible. During the first few installation laps I try and identify anything major. brake bias, pressure, differential, aero. I'm always tinkering with pressures and cambers. There really is no, "fix one thing and move to the next thing" because making changes in one area can and will effect the others. tldr I concentrate on things that can lead to spins when testing and work my way from there.
As I am not speaking from the inside and being able to confirm things, my impression based on my work in AMS2 (as opposed to other games) is that Reiza is developing a physics package first and the cars are a reflection of that package. Any perceived flaws in the physics of a particular car are then adjusted based on that particular car. I distinguish this from programming a "driver feel" first and then programming the setup physics after the fact. I mention this, because the later method is where I feel sims can have some gray areas.
That being said, the viscous LSD used to be enabled, and it did have an effect on the cars handling, however this was recently disabled. I never showcased how to use the viscous options because this could have been interpreted as a glitch. Not a major glitch mind you, because whatever you could have done to the viscous could have also been done with the clutch lsd adjustments.
But to answer you question directly, no. Everything in AMS2 has an effect and all of the setup options are true to their real life counterparts.
@@Steelcast27 Really appreciate your feedback and yes glitch is the perfect word to describe how people actively look for manipulations and exploit them to go faster. It is great to hear that AMS2 really works to close any open perceived glitches so people do not use them to their advantage. Thank you sir!
LMAO...your memes are awesome. Great way to lighten up a heavy conversation...great info in this video. Kudos to you as this is SUCH a tough topic to explain but you do it well.
Thanks Hachs. Im glad they are helpful.
Oh and the gifs were 1/2 for my own entertainment during the editing process. Lol
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@steelcast27 why are your measurements in Nms and mine is just “4” etc?
Options>Gameplay>Display>Setup Display>Rates
Does all of this apply to the formula cars as well? I mean like your tyre temp ideas, are these the same when the wheels are open wheels in terms of the IMO temps etc? I wonder if there was a car you usually drive that you had in mind when making this video series? Not saying you were , just curious as so many people only play the GT3 cars these days, I am more a formula car guy, especially the older ones
Hey why does my car just give away after pushing very hard, go into a corner under heavy and feel like the doesn’t want to respond anymore, car spins
Awesome vid very helpful. The only issue I have is on my settings for slow bump & slow rebound ect. I just have 1 - 8 instead of Nm / n/m/s is there a setting I need to change ?
Thanks for the informative video bro. Any tips for the formula trainer?
Love your Explanation, its really well explained and i can easily understand it and implement it
Thanks! It can get a bit overwhelming. One step at a time and build from there.
Any thoughts (maybe in a detailed video) about the overall force of the ARBs, rather than their ratio (front to back)? Say you start with both ARBs = 0 and work your way up to the right balance, compared to have overall stiffer ARBs with the same balance. So much to dive in here. Cheers. :)
When your doing intense setup work, it takes time. A lot of laps. A lot of data. So speeding this up in any way possible is a good idea. There are documented references for things like appropriate stiffness for each class of car. So you test, hit those marks and fine tune from there. Testing sway bars at 0 isnt necessary, because its not practical. But thats not to say its wrong to do that. All that matters is if you end up in the right place. For those without telemetry a good metric for overall stiffness is tire temps. Softness will load up one side over the other, so you might have overheated tires on one side and cold tores on the other. Not to mention how sluggish the car would feel. ARBs are simply a way to maintain cornering stiffness but allow softer springs for bumps/kerbs.
Thanks for the video mate
These really are quite good. Reiza should hire you to do more videos for AMS2.
Haha
Nice work on this video !!! Keep it up
Thank you! Im taking a nap after im done drivetrain. Lol
First post
Been waiting for this one!
Thanks for stopping by mac!
I'm keen to see you go through setups with racing sim tools
That's in the works. Perhaps not a thrilling as you might expect. Telemetry doesn't provide answers, it really just gives you a better grasp of what's going on, which can be quite a mess. I still use the principles in the video first, the telemetry helps confirm positive improvements and the effects on other aspects, which could be off-set by negative aspects. So still a lot of trial and error and testing and resetting.
I used to use it with Project cars 2 but haven't for Ams2 it was more for your workflow through it etc
Oh, I see. Cool. Yeah. Sometime in February.
Loving this series 👍🏁
Awesome. 3 more parts planned. Drivetrain next week, Advanced and TT by the end of Feb.