If juror's decisioen is to be respected than that also includes when you don't like. And not attack the juror. The jurors should sue that parent for emotional disstress
Evil exist when the culture of a country creates evil... The US is great at creating evil... when people spend time focusing on killing yet another person after a tragedy...
Exactly. The big reason they go against the death penalty is because of tax dollars. Not like the government is using them for any good purpose anyways.
@@michaelscottspapercompany6373 what does tax dollars have to do with it? I thought it would be cheaper to give him the death penalty than keeping him alive
Why should the jury give him mercy he didn’t give his victims, he doesn’t deserve to live if you can’t give Justice when needed why sit on a jury? By law they say we shouldn’t kill but in this case he should have died no exceptions!
He is trying so hard not to break done... my heart breaks for him and all the other victims and their families who did not get justice! This is awful. When I saw the news my heart sank. He has every right to be angry, upset, and devastated!💔 RIP Jamie and all the other innocent souls . I so sorry this justice system failed you 🙏
Wow just wow. Did you listen to anything the father said? For one justice would mean this monster was killed before he actually killed anyone else. that would’ve been justice. You clearly didn’t listen to a damn thing the man said cause you would’ve noticed he spoke to future potential shootings and how this basically tells a shooter go ahead feed your monster murder a bunch of people you can spend the rest of your days growing old and gray in jail. Justice would mean having their loved ones alive but that’s never going to happen. The closest thing they get would be knowing this monster is no longer drawing breath but the jury didn’t even have the human decency to give them that. He wasn’t calling for a vengeance he actually had the capacity and strength to pull himself out of his pain and think to other people’s children and be afraid for future victims.
What a disgusting jury!!!! Appalling!!! Those poor teenagers 😢 I CANNOT fathom what they endured! And the families, the grief must be SUFFOCATING!! I have two teenage daughters; and I cannot imagine. The jury showed compassion to a cold -blooded murderer!! Unbelievable!!! “The defense lost their humanity to the victims .” Well said by the grieving father , Atrocious!!! The grief is compounded because of a jury who victimized the MURDERER!
I didn’t know until these interviews after the verdict how badly the families wanted the death penalty. I don’t believe it was asked of the families or surviving victims what outcome they wanted during victim testimony. One could surmise they wanted death based on their daily attendance of the trial, I’m sure the jury had a sense of what the families wanted. How could you go against their wishes? They are the ones who suffer every moment of their lives. It’s been four and half years, all of the parents are so irreparably devastated and so injured that it’s clear they will never recover from the murder of their child. It doesn’t appear a parent can move on from this, ever. They are broken souls and always will be. I wish them any peace and joy that is possible. It shows how much parents love their children.
@@smaguire8339 coz it is...there were allegations from other jurors that the 1 juror was set on voting life before the trial even started, the letter she wrote addressed the judge saying that the allegations were false and that she swore under oath to be inbiased and fair
Yes they fail!!! We are enraged with the outcome! They did not even LOOK at the facts! The death sentence is the ONLY sentence that should have been considered. Someone posted right here on RUclips several months ago there is one juror who would NOT vote for the death penalty. I hoped the name would be intercepted. Yes the state did an amazing job and the defense was totally sloppy and unprofessional in the courtroom.
@@annabellelee4535 originally it was 1 juror who manipulated 2 others out of there vote. If your going to tell story, tell the whole story, not just the one that fits your narrative
@@Moonstone271 no, the jury foreman stated it was originally 1 who opposed and then got 2 others to change their votes. Thats a form of manipulation by definition.
that jurer should have automatically said that if they don't believe in the death penalty when they were picked for this jury duty obviously they don't obviously and they let their own beliefs override their duty to be impartial! Disgusting!!!
“Walter's case taught me that fear and anger are a threat to justice; they can infect a community, a state, or a nation and make us blind, irrational, and dangerous. I reflected on how mass imprisonment has littered the national landscape with carceral monuments of reckless and excessive punishment and ravaged communities with our hopeless willingness to condemn and discard the most vulnerable among us. I told the congregation that Walter's case had taught me that the death penalty is not about whether people deserve to die for the crimes they commit. The real question of capital punishment in this country is, Do we deserve to kill?”
“In debates about the death penalty, I had started arguing that we would never think it was humane to pay someone to rape people convicted of rape or assault and abuse someone guilty of assault or abuse. Yet we were comfortable killing people who kill, in part because we think we can do it in a manner that doesn’t implicate our own humanity, the way that raping or abusing someone would.”
“I did not see the hanging. They hanged him in front of the jail in Toronto, and You should have been there Grace, say the keepers, it would have been a lesson to you. I've pictured it many times, poor James standing with his hands tied and his neck bare, while they put the hood over his head like a kitten to be drowned. At least he had a priest with him, he was not all alone. If it had not been for Grace Marks, he told them, none of it would have happened. It was raining, and a huge crowd standing in the mud, some of them come from miles away. If my own death sentence had not been commuted at the last minute, they would have watched me hang with the same greedy pleasure. There were many women and ladies there; everyone wanted to stare, they wanted to breathe death in like fine perfume, and when I read of it I thought, If this is a lesson to me, what is it I am supposed to be learning?”
I would have been the bastard who got death threats for refusing to budge on an appropriate sentence for a serial killer. After all, if he buried 17 people in the backyard, Cruz would be deadman walking. I say only as Florida is a death penalty state: why have it if you don't use it, and who does get assigned the death penalty for lesser offenses than Cruz, who in fact had a list in his cell of people he wanted to kill that day but never had a chance. So, he is sitting around with a hit list. And in this case, Cruz was already determined guilty and not by reason of insanity. The defense wanted for him a life in prison and trying not to barf here--the defense won and got what he wanted. Hopefully manipulative stunts like having Cruz color with crayons inside a courtroom didn't change the jury's view of him as a man, but instead reframed his behavior and mentality as one of a child. They jury was played. The defense won. Cruz won. The parents lost again, again, and keep losing.
@@LeighPhillips78 that's the problem with a jury of your *peers* all the information from psychiatrist that informed them he did not have problem with I Q at 93 around average, no mental illness however he had antisocial personality disorder translation psychopath. With a jury you get the undereducated, the impatient, and the social justice warriors. In this instance a SJW took the lead and two other jurors who obviously did not comprehend the information or discarded it went along. The 9 others were left impotent to do anything. Fix the system !
@@robertwilliams5618 I don't see what's funny. If you had a father like mine you wouldn't be laughing, you jerk off. And I'm a female. This is why I don't read the comments, usually, but I didn't expect a jerk with this issue. You must be cruz' loving relative.
What's crazy about this is that it took them 7.5 hours ONLY to come to a verdict that's grossly disturbing considering the severity and how much evidence they had to go over CLEARLY someone had there mind already made up it's sickening
I understand their pain. The other side of the support for CRIMINALS in this country is that many of us who never had guns...have guns now to protect ourselves from a criminal such as this. I see little old ladies (like me) at the gun range out of fear we could be next....because the criminals are not held accountable.
@@jkjkjkkjkjk we have a big gun problem in the US... specially young man. They turn 18 and run out to get not just one but multiple weapons. This kid, and I say kid because at 18 that's what you are...he had 6 or 7 weapons and over 1k rounds which is crazy!!
@@mglez2517 yeah that's crazy.... Teen boys are already volatile, little own teen boys with mental health issues.... Loading them up with automatic guns sounds crazy... Hope the US disarms.... We haven't had a single mass murder since we did... You can just walk the street and never worry about being shot.... You never ever think about it...
@@mglez2517 What's crazy about that? If you don't like our rights and freedoms, feel free to move to another country that is more congenial to you. Like North Korea!
@@annabellelee4535 Exactly An injustice would be if he walked free and didn’t have to serve any time. A couple examples of injustices are OJ Simpson walking free, and the two guys who killed Emmitt Till walking free. As well as maybe the woman who lied about what she alleged he did. That’s not at all the case here. Cruz was convicted on all counts, and will never set foot outside a prison again. All his freedoms he had before he killed 17 people are gone. Also, even if he did get sentenced to death, it’s rarely ever fast. I’ve seen people spend 20+ years on death row before they get executed or if illness gets them first
@@markstallings5768 Please enter the real world. The case is over, justice has been served. It's time to move on. Perhaps you need professional help with your uncontrollable emotions.
Anyone who is called to jury duty should be able to pass mental health test before being chosen! It’s frightening knowing someone’s fate in the hands of 12 or maybe just 1. No matter the verdict . This is serious business!
Sounds like that isn't their plan, it's more like they plan to restrict rights and freedoms to punish the law abiding American. Hopefully, since this is over and done with, we won't be hearing from them any more. They need peace and time to process their grief.
The one defense attorney had his arm around the monster's shoulder. I totally agree. The defense was horrible. Maybe they can get the monster a pass for Thanksgiving and take him to their house. It has been disgusting! I totally agree with you. They were unprofessional and petty. They laughed inappropriately so many times. God bless you and your family.
@@annabellelee4535 they laughed during the trial at inappropriate things. Tamara Curtis scratched her face with her middle finger (remember the ELEMENTARY way of flipping someone off when you dont want them to know youre flipping them off. Only problem was the whole world knew what she was doing) then laughed about it with the killer. Disrespectful to the judge...
Defence attorneys are allowed and expected in many ways to comfort their client. They did a lot wrong, but it’s irrational to be angered that they were not openly disgusted by him. They need to treat him like a human so they can defend him properly. The arm around the shoulders isn’t wrong
This man is so strong and speak so clear. He went through the hardest part a parent can happen. He lost his daughter. He is absolutely true. This verdict is definitely not right at all!!! My prayers to the victims.
Me too, I pretty much feared this outcome... I just had tiny hope that there would be a different outcome. Death should have been the only penalty in this case
@@xandervalltessa3685 Plus it's less money for the warden if that cretin dies. America's justice system is a mockery but it's system is but a reflection of it's people.
This jury failed and the system with the stipulation that it has to be 100% in agreement is as insane as this monster. He's not really insane of course, but the irrational decision by the one juror has brought down the meaning of justice.
Its not just one juror to blame, the justice system should relook how one juror's beliefs become so important that other jurors are vote is totally ignored. Especially for the ones biased from day 1
@@PiyushSharma-gi6vi Absolutely in agreement. It's the judicial system creating such an insane rule. I think it should be based on the majority and nothing else.
@@PiyushSharma-gi6vi new law under Obama. Just like him placing via soros D A s and prosecutors who love murderers u s a under siege by communists from within.
@@jackiepowell7513 It was the Supreme Court who came up with this revision and many other states except Alabama, requires unanimous voting. This has nothing to do with President Obama but hey, good to know that out of this tragedy, you want to turn this into a political argument instead of having some compassion.
This sickens me. Shocking outcome, literally makes my blood boil. Poor families. System failed, the world is going soft and losing sight of what is important.
Bullshit I could see if he got off Scott free, but he’s still going to prison for the rest of his miserable life. He’ll never set foot outside a prison again. Justice was served. And many forget that executions are never usually immediate. Most of the time it takes years.
@@barrymccaulkner8142 because when you're dead, you're dead... ... He will have no good or easy life in prison... Surely he gets killed like Dahmer... Taking his life is no punishment in my eyes.... For seeing his fear in moment of death? If he can feel it highly medicated... , it won't change anything...
@@tytygirl11 a child abuser relives and enjoys every moment in his sick brain.... He was in a video game mode ....system failed! He posted on social media, he told people he wanted to do it. Someone called police in January to tell he has a gun and wants a Mass.... Because no one cared this could happen... Doesn't change anything either if he's dead or not...
It’s not gibberish. She is expressing her heart hurts for the parents of those innocent children. She’s displeased with the result by the attorneys (defense) and above all else the jury.
@@bunnybubs757 exactly. A jury is impartial and personal feelings are not supposed to impact your rendering of a verdict. If this case does not warrant the death penalty, what does?
Devastating, embarrassing and absolutely heart wrenching. Justice was NOT SERVED! I hope he gets some good old prison justice 🙏💔 my heart hurts for the family members of the victims, friends, community & siblings.
I’m sorry but you’re dead wrong. Justice not being served would be if he walked free, as what happened to OJ Simpson and the guys who killed Emmitt Till. Cruz will never again taste freedom, all he’ll know is a jail cell for the rest of his life. I never believed it was our job to decide who lives and dies
The Court System, in America, is made to give the criminal every advantage possible. I knew this was gonna happen. I knew that at least one juror would feel bad for him that his mother was a junkie and took drugs and alcohol while pregnant with him and that would derail him being sent to Hell where he belongs.
Yes they did abandon Parkland. Instead State money will be used to pay for him. State money that could go to mental health and schools. (Prisons in Florida are privately owned. This puts money in the bank of private business. Private business most likely supporting NO Gun Control in Florida.)
@@Randorandom232 Exactly. Many forget it takes many years for it to happen. For example, the Night Stalker was sentenced to death in 1989, but never got to be executed. He died from cancer in 2013 still behind bars. Another example is one of the toolbox killers. He was sentenced to death in 1980, but lived on death row another 40 years before he died in 2020.
In a more downplayed comparison this is as if a person was on trial for kidnapping a child and one juror would be enough to decide on a 500$ fine instead of years in prison. And then you have that one juror who thinks it is not okay to put people in jail...
This could have been about sending a message to stop these senseless killings in schools but for the jurors It was about feeling good about themselves for "sparing" him. how brave of them.
Look folks, its the type of female that dates murders in jail. I thought these women knew enough to hide their shameful heads but right here is one of those "empowered" fems, who get "wet" over a criminal.
My heart's broken for these families. The whole system failed not only the victims but also the victims families. How in the hell can you say MENTAL DEFECT. That POS knew what he was doing. As for the defense the judge should file for an Ethics complaints against the defense team.
I completely agree with this father, that monster has people worried about his mental health, and yet the victims have lost their childrens and loved ones, never to share their future with each other, put the victims in charge of their punishment, there is enough time to get evidence, but he admitted he killed 17 people and destroyed so many others, that has to deal with their endless grief, my heart goes out to each and other family, my heart aches alongside you do so all the grief, is on your shoulders, I stand with all parents, fighting to stop a person, that if ever given the chance, will snap exactly like he has since prison, there really isn’t enough help, or time to make these people understand the grief their behaviour has caused, there’s so many more people who may experience worse, and they don’t take this path, maybe society has shaped him, but he unfortunately got what, he wanted, notoriety from being a school shooter, there’s no help for these people,
I am sobbing at work. How heartless. Isn’t god going to do the same if he deems them unjust? Now. You can say well…god reads heart and maybe he saw he wasn’t right in the mind. Okay. Then god will give him a second chance. but we do not need a human being like this taking our money and taking up space.
Every person is guilty of something and God had mercy on all mankind past, present and future when He sent His only begotten Son Jesus Christ to earth. He was crucified and God raised Him from the dead.
My condolence to all the family members that lost love one. The family needs justice and closer for the families. My thoughts and prayers are with families 😥 🙏🙏
My prayers go out for all of you. Justice was not served. My heart breaks for you. I will continue to pray for all of you and that somehow, somewhere find some kind of peace. God bless
People love misusing the word “injustice” I see. An injustice applies to someone who gets away with murder by walking free. A couple examples of this is OJ Simpson and the two guys who killed Emmitt Till.
Im so sorry for these families on so many levels. On a sidenote, the father here could be a host of a TV or radio show. He's got that kind personality.
I feel for the families and their losses , just keep in mind the prison population hates violence against children , Im sure he will be taken care of , and justice will be served...
I am really sorry after witnessing the pain of all 17 families who in the name of justice got LOLLIPOP. Unfortunately in this country lots of people don't see justice. I also faced Injustice so I can understand their pain. All I can say is this country has not learned from their past mistakes.
You’re full of shit. He didn’t get away with it, he’s going to be confined to a cell for 20 hours a day, and deprived most of his freedoms and privacy.
The juror (or jurors) who caused this outcome got it so wrong. They shouldn’t have been on that jury….they clearly weren’t going to vote for the DP all along….and that is wrong!! How can they live with themselves? And how can those defense lawyers live with themselves? They were so unprofessional and rude throughout this whole preceding. And zero human compassion from them. Only compassion for a despicable waste of a human life,piece of garbage, monster!! I pray the other inmates get their hands on him….
We stand with you and the families!! The jurors who didn't think what he did warrented a DP are absolutely disgusting humans like I said if it happened to them and there family they would have a completely different opinion. People suck in this world now a days can't even get the easiest of DP cases right like wtf do you need to do in US to get the DP kill 100 children would that do it?.... probably not smfh 🤢🤮
My thoughts exactly I feel bad for these parents, but it’s wrong for them to say justice wasn’t served. It was. Justice not being served would be him walking scot free. Not only that but people need to learn those on death row are rarely executed immediately
A 15 year old boy kill 5 people on a walking trail yesterday in North Carolina and injured others. He blew his brother away too and a off duty police officer.
I too hope this bastard doesn’t survive long in prison. He did not deserve to be let go this way. I would like to know the jury make up. We know the political make up of corrupt Broward county FL.
Such a clear message. I’m broken for all of the victims, and victims that survived.
Its a MONUMENTAL slap in the face!!
If juror's decisioen is to be respected than that also includes when you don't like. And not attack the juror. The jurors should sue that parent for emotional disstress
@@john_cockpit one juror was wrong, period
@@emotionalrobot632 the verdict is certified, period!
@@john_cockpit what a clown, "sue him for emotional disstress."
Evil exists because we allow it.
Evil exist when the culture of a country creates evil... The US is great at creating evil... when people spend time focusing on killing yet another person after a tragedy...
Exactly. The big reason they go against the death penalty is because of tax dollars. Not like the government is using them for any good purpose anyways.
@@michaelscottspapercompany6373 what does tax dollars have to do with it? I thought it would be cheaper to give him the death penalty than keeping him alive
Why should the jury give him mercy he didn’t give his victims, he doesn’t deserve to live if you can’t give Justice when needed why sit on a jury? By law they say we shouldn’t kill but in this case he should have died no exceptions!
That's a great Point
I stand with the heartbroken parents today.
Me too😢
Clearly, your ignorance will never be called into question.
You’re so brave lol
I don't feel bad for this man at all. He is brain dead. He supports Biden
I really thought he would get the death penalty too. I was shocked.
My heart breaks for these families.
This damaged monster shouldn’t live, when he murdered their children.
there is no difference between a women who has an abortion and a school shooter - they both intentionally murder innocent people
U said it. Damaged.
He is trying so hard not to break done... my heart breaks for him and all the other victims and their families who did not get justice! This is awful. When I saw the news my heart sank. He has every right to be angry, upset, and devastated!💔 RIP Jamie and all the other innocent souls . I so sorry this justice system failed you 🙏
Justice or vengeance?
*down
They are one in the same.
@@sA-ny2jl 👏🏻
Wow just wow. Did you listen to anything the father said? For one justice would mean this monster was killed before he actually killed anyone else. that would’ve been justice. You clearly didn’t listen to a damn thing the man said cause you would’ve noticed he spoke to future potential shootings and how this basically tells a shooter go ahead feed your monster murder a bunch of people you can spend the rest of your days growing old and gray in jail. Justice would mean having their loved ones alive but that’s never going to happen. The closest thing they get would be knowing this monster is no longer drawing breath but the jury didn’t even have the human decency to give them that. He wasn’t calling for a vengeance he actually had the capacity and strength to pull himself out of his pain and think to other people’s children and be afraid for future victims.
What a disgusting jury!!!! Appalling!!! Those poor teenagers 😢 I CANNOT fathom what they endured! And the families, the grief must be SUFFOCATING!! I have two teenage daughters; and I cannot imagine. The jury showed compassion to a cold -blooded murderer!! Unbelievable!!!
“The defense lost their humanity to the victims .” Well said by the grieving father , Atrocious!!! The grief is compounded because of a jury who victimized the MURDERER!
death penalty is white supremacy
you're right..... disgusting and appalling.... 😑
Rotting in jail for life is worse than a quick death
What is compassionate about condemning a man to 60 years in a tiny cage? Compassion would have been the DP,
I didn’t know until these interviews after the verdict how badly the families wanted the death penalty. I don’t believe it was asked of the families or surviving victims what outcome they wanted during victim testimony. One could surmise they wanted death based on their daily attendance of the trial, I’m sure the jury had a sense of what the families wanted. How could you go against their wishes? They are the ones who suffer every moment of their lives. It’s been four and half years, all of the parents are so irreparably devastated and so injured that it’s clear they will never recover from the murder of their child. It doesn’t appear a parent can move on from this, ever. They are broken souls and always will be. I wish them any peace and joy that is possible. It shows how much parents love their children.
The jurors won't care until it happens to them.
There was one juror in particular who was opposed to DP from the start. Denise Cunha. She wrote a note to the judge.
@@shawnr590 ??? I wasn't able to follow this so closely. That sounds hard to believe.
Exactly
@@smaguire8339 coz it is...there were allegations from other jurors that the 1 juror was set on voting life before the trial even started, the letter she wrote addressed the judge saying that the allegations were false and that she swore under oath to be inbiased and fair
@@erincross4348 Yes, I've seen that. What a mess. Thanks for replying to me.
Yes they fail!!! We are enraged with the outcome! They did not even LOOK at the facts! The death sentence is the ONLY sentence that should have been considered. Someone posted right here on RUclips several months ago there is one juror who would NOT vote for the death penalty. I hoped the name would be intercepted. Yes the state did an amazing job and the defense was totally sloppy and unprofessional in the courtroom.
Three people voted LWOP, and justice has been served. The jury spoke and that's all there is to it. Get over it! It's done.
@@annabellelee4535 it's true....unfortunate but true.
@@annabellelee4535 originally it was 1 juror who manipulated 2 others out of there vote. If your going to tell story, tell the whole story, not just the one that fits your narrative
@@barrymccaulkner8142 it is not manipulation. It is someone's belief.
@@Moonstone271 no, the jury foreman stated it was originally 1 who opposed and then got 2 others to change their votes. Thats a form of manipulation by definition.
that jurer should have automatically said that if they don't believe in the death penalty when they were picked for this jury duty obviously they don't obviously and they let their own beliefs override their duty to be impartial! Disgusting!!!
There should be no such thing as the death penalty in a civilized society. You are no better than Nikolas.
“Walter's case taught me that fear and anger are a threat to justice; they can infect a community, a state, or a nation and make us blind, irrational, and dangerous. I reflected on how mass imprisonment has littered the national landscape with carceral monuments of reckless and excessive punishment and ravaged communities with our hopeless willingness to condemn and discard the most vulnerable among us. I told the congregation that Walter's case had taught me that the death penalty is not about whether people deserve to die for the crimes they commit. The real question of capital punishment in this country is, Do we deserve to kill?”
“In debates about the death penalty, I had started arguing that we would never think it was humane to pay someone to rape people convicted of rape or assault and abuse someone guilty of assault or abuse. Yet we were comfortable killing people who kill, in part because we think we can do it in a manner that doesn’t implicate our own humanity, the way that raping or abusing someone would.”
“I did not see the hanging. They hanged him in front of the jail in Toronto, and You should have been there Grace, say the keepers, it would have been a lesson to you. I've pictured it many times, poor James standing with his hands tied and his neck bare, while they put the hood over his head like a kitten to be drowned. At least he had a priest with him, he was not all alone. If it had not been for Grace Marks, he told them, none of it would have happened.
It was raining, and a huge crowd standing in the mud, some of them come from miles away. If my own death sentence had not been commuted at the last minute, they would have watched me hang with the same greedy pleasure. There were many women and ladies there; everyone wanted to stare, they wanted to breathe death in like fine perfume, and when I read of it I thought, If this is a lesson to me, what is it I am supposed to be learning?”
💯💯💯💯
The dads are right...there was a rogue on the jury. I wish I had been there instead.
Same. That’s exactly what happened.
Three people voted for LWOP, and there is nothing you could have done.
@@annabellelee4535 3 simps
I would have been the bastard who got death threats for refusing to budge on an appropriate sentence for a serial killer. After all, if he buried 17 people in the backyard, Cruz would be deadman walking. I say only as Florida is a death penalty state: why have it if you don't use it, and who does get assigned the death penalty for lesser offenses than Cruz, who in fact had a list in his cell of people he wanted to kill that day but never had a chance. So, he is sitting around with a hit list. And in this case, Cruz was already determined guilty and not by reason of insanity. The defense wanted for him a life in prison and trying not to barf here--the defense won and got what he wanted. Hopefully manipulative stunts like having Cruz color with crayons inside a courtroom didn't change the jury's view of him as a man, but instead reframed his behavior and mentality as one of a child. They jury was played. The defense won. Cruz won. The parents lost again, again, and keep losing.
@@LeighPhillips78 that's the problem with a jury of your *peers* all the information from psychiatrist that informed them he did not have problem with I Q at 93 around average, no mental illness however he had antisocial personality disorder translation psychopath. With a jury you get the undereducated, the impatient, and the social justice warriors. In this instance a SJW took the lead and two other jurors who obviously did not comprehend the information or discarded it went along. The 9 others were left impotent to do anything. Fix the system !
I wish I had a father like this.
That's deep man lol
same.
@@robertwilliams5618 I don't see what's funny. If you had a father like mine you wouldn't be laughing, you jerk off. And I'm a female. This is why I don't read the comments, usually, but I didn't expect a jerk with this issue. You must be cruz' loving relative.
What's crazy about this is that it took them 7.5 hours ONLY to come to a verdict that's grossly disturbing considering the severity and how much evidence they had to go over CLEARLY someone had there mind already made up it's sickening
I understand their pain. The other side of the support for CRIMINALS in this country is that many of us who never had guns...have guns now to protect ourselves from a criminal such as this. I see little old ladies (like me) at the gun range out of fear we could be next....because the criminals are not held accountable.
The country i live in has limited access to guns, and no automatic guns..... We have no mass shootings .....
@Skeeter Valentine you forget how to use words? Whats your question?
@@jkjkjkkjkjk we have a big gun problem in the US... specially young man. They turn 18 and run out to get not just one but multiple weapons. This kid, and I say kid because at 18 that's what you are...he had 6 or 7 weapons and over 1k rounds which is crazy!!
@@mglez2517 yeah that's crazy.... Teen boys are already volatile, little own teen boys with mental health issues.... Loading them up with automatic guns sounds crazy... Hope the US disarms.... We haven't had a single mass murder since we did... You can just walk the street and never worry about being shot.... You never ever think about it...
@@mglez2517 What's crazy about that? If you don't like our rights and freedoms, feel free to move to another country that is more congenial to you. Like North Korea!
My condolences and prayers. A terrible injustice.
Justice has been served, it's time to move on.
@@annabellelee4535 Exactly
An injustice would be if he walked free and didn’t have to serve any time.
A couple examples of injustices are OJ Simpson walking free, and the two guys who killed Emmitt Till walking free. As well as maybe the woman who lied about what she alleged he did.
That’s not at all the case here. Cruz was convicted on all counts, and will never set foot outside a prison again. All his freedoms he had before he killed 17 people are gone.
Also, even if he did get sentenced to death, it’s rarely ever fast.
I’ve seen people spend 20+ years on death row before they get executed or if illness gets them first
Amen!
@ Annabelle Lee, what a stupid comment!! It’s easy to say that when it’s not your child. Just be quiet 🤫!
@@markstallings5768 Please enter the real world. The case is over, justice has been served. It's time to move on. Perhaps you need professional help with your uncontrollable emotions.
As a parent myself I can feel these parents anger and emotions. Anger knowing that monster is alive while their child isn't. It's so unfair!
Anyone who is called to jury duty should be able to pass mental health test before being chosen! It’s frightening knowing someone’s fate in the hands of 12 or maybe just 1. No matter the verdict . This is serious business!
My heart breaks for these parents. I can’t imagine their pain, but hope their pain fuels good in the world
Sounds like that isn't their plan, it's more like they plan to restrict rights and freedoms to punish the law abiding American. Hopefully, since this is over and done with, we won't be hearing from them any more. They need peace and time to process their grief.
This breaks my heart for the families.
The one defense attorney had his arm around the monster's shoulder. I totally agree. The defense was horrible. Maybe they can get the monster a pass for Thanksgiving and take him to their house. It has been disgusting! I totally agree with you. They were unprofessional and petty. They laughed inappropriately so many times. God bless you and your family.
Why do you think the defense was horrible?
@@annabellelee4535 they laughed during the trial at inappropriate things. Tamara Curtis scratched her face with her middle finger (remember the ELEMENTARY way of flipping someone off when you dont want them to know youre flipping them off. Only problem was the whole world knew what she was doing) then laughed about it with the killer. Disrespectful to the judge...
Defence attorneys are allowed and expected in many ways to comfort their client. They did a lot wrong, but it’s irrational to be angered that they were not openly disgusted by him. They need to treat him like a human so they can defend him properly. The arm around the shoulders isn’t wrong
@@GG-kn2se Right!!
This man is so strong and speak so clear. He went through the hardest part a parent can happen. He lost his daughter. He is absolutely true. This verdict is definitely not right at all!!! My prayers to the victims.
My prayers go out to those families who were affected.
F**k your "pRaYeRs"
You’re selfish af
They keep saying they didn't get justice, just because they didn't get the sentence they wanted doesn't mean there wasn't justice.
@@tamitribbiani7907 Justice would have been a public execution
@@shiiitfart8157 That would have been revenge.
Jury totally failed. So, so sorry.
What’s done is done.
Monster is never going to be free again.
I predicted this would happen. I really didn’t think the jury would all agree on the death penalty.
Me too, I pretty much feared this outcome... I just had tiny hope that there would be a different outcome. Death should have been the only penalty in this case
It's hard to get 12 people to agree on anything, much less a life or death sentence!
Prison justice will prevail eventually
Yes definitely. Hopefully the prison justice he gets makes him wish he got the death penalty
Do you think he’ll even be in general population ? I think he’ll be very protected
@@bunnybubs757 I read he would be put in isolation. I think he will find a way to commit suicide though.
No mercy for him, prayers to them poor families having to wait so long & justice wasn’t given
@@xandervalltessa3685 Plus it's less money for the warden if that cretin dies. America's justice system is a mockery but it's system is but a reflection of it's people.
Man I’m crying so much, I’m so sorry man.
No you are crying...stop lying just to score likes🙄😒.
Google wants to know your 10-20.
These monsters never get the death penalty, but a dog just for bit a person is immediately put to sleep.
Amen
I’m absolutely angry that the justice system failed these families.
Unfortunately they will keep him away from all other inmates 😢. The system has won
The state did a fantastic job.
I agree I hope they Dahmer him in prison. God bless these families. My heart breaks for you.
What’s disturbing is that I think Nicholas Cruz liked hearing his name countless times
This jury failed and the system with the stipulation that it has to be 100% in agreement is as insane as this monster. He's not really insane of course, but the irrational decision by the one juror has brought down the meaning of justice.
Its not just one juror to blame, the justice system should relook how one juror's beliefs become so important that other jurors are vote is totally ignored. Especially for the ones biased from day 1
@@PiyushSharma-gi6vi Absolutely in agreement. It's the judicial system creating such an insane rule. I think it should be based on the majority and nothing else.
2016 that law was changed under Obama s regime. Evil bastards.
@@PiyushSharma-gi6vi new law under Obama. Just like him placing via soros D A s and prosecutors who love murderers u s a under siege by communists from within.
@@jackiepowell7513 It was the Supreme Court who came up with this revision and many other states except Alabama, requires unanimous voting. This has nothing to do with President Obama but hey, good to know that out of this tragedy, you want to turn this into a political argument instead of having some compassion.
I'm APPALLED at this verdict!
My heart goes out to all these families
Jurors have sympathy but for the mass shooters
I’m disgusted and heartbroken for these families.
Why did this take 5 years? Time to take it in the parents hands for justice..
This sickens me. Shocking outcome, literally makes my blood boil. Poor families. System failed, the world is going soft and losing sight of what is important.
No, the system failing would be him walking free which isn’t the case at all.
He was tried, convicted, and will never be a free man again.
I am so sorry this jury failed these parents. There is prison justice, though.
The system failed them
Bullshit
I could see if he got off Scott free, but he’s still going to prison for the rest of his miserable life. He’ll never set foot outside a prison again.
Justice was served.
And many forget that executions are never usually immediate. Most of the time it takes years.
That juror has to live with the decision. Sleep well dude.
Maybe he/she didn't want to be a murderer.
Prisoners do your job it’s BS
Just watched a clip where DeSantis said it was because of one person who refused to give the dp.
He will suffer in prison….. trust in that.
I don't trust that. Been in the system and I know for a fact that's not set in stone
He'll be in protective custody. They won't get near him.
@@Maria.9094 you don't know that. That's up to cruz to enter PC
Listening to these parents is heartbreaking 😢💔
Isn't life in prison without parole more punishment like feeling the one moment of death caused by other humans?!!!
How do you know?
Not if you enjoy reliving every moment. Not everyone has empathy. He enjoyed what he did he has no remorse
@@barrymccaulkner8142 because when you're dead, you're dead... ... He will have no good or easy life in prison... Surely he gets killed like Dahmer... Taking his life is no punishment in my eyes.... For seeing his fear in moment of death? If he can feel it highly medicated... , it won't change anything...
@@tytygirl11 a child abuser relives and enjoys every moment in his sick brain....
He was in a video game mode ....system failed! He posted on social media, he told people he wanted to do it. Someone called police in January to tell he has a gun and wants a Mass.... Because no one cared this could happen... Doesn't change anything either if he's dead or not...
Four years waiting for a ridiculous life sentence! SMH
Mi corazón me duele por los padres de esos inocentes que murieron y asco por los abogados y sobre todo por el jurado.
gibberish.
It’s not gibberish. She is expressing her heart hurts for the parents of those innocent children. She’s displeased with the result by the attorneys (defense) and above all else the jury.
@@BettyFL maybe he was describing his own comment.
@@Purplewideworld Exactly. Well put.
My heart is breaking for this daddy.
Some people just oppose the death penalty no matter what.
I mostly oppose the death penalty. Obvious cases like this are uncommon, and LWOP is capital punishment. Nicholas will die in prison.
Yes but jurors are asked beforehand if this involved DP could they hand it down .. they all answered yes
@@bunnybubs757 exactly. A jury is impartial and personal feelings are not supposed to impact your rendering of a verdict. If this case does not warrant the death penalty, what does?
@@Maria.9094 crazy sad .. makes no sense
Devastating, embarrassing and absolutely heart wrenching. Justice was NOT SERVED! I hope he gets some good old prison justice 🙏💔 my heart hurts for the family members of the victims, friends, community & siblings.
I’m sorry but you’re dead wrong.
Justice not being served would be if he walked free, as what happened to OJ Simpson and the guys who killed Emmitt Till.
Cruz will never again taste freedom, all he’ll know is a jail cell for the rest of his life.
I never believed it was our job to decide who lives and dies
Yes it was
Our system is so messed up they have failed these families and these victims im so sorry 🙏🏻
The Court System, in America, is made to give the criminal every advantage possible. I knew this was gonna happen. I knew that at least one juror would feel bad for him that his mother was a junkie and took drugs and alcohol while pregnant with him and that would derail him being sent to Hell where he belongs.
The Courts aren't there to dish out personal revenge..
@@jkjkjkkjkjk What is your point?
@@jkjkjkkjkjk tell that to the one juror
Didn’t he want the death penalty? Why give him what he wants?
Wow, a disgusting jury, so devastated. Even the defense attorneys were despicable and they kept laughing with the killer.
Yes they did abandon Parkland. Instead State money will be used to pay for him. State money that could go to mental health and schools. (Prisons in Florida are privately owned. This puts money in the bank of private business. Private business most likely supporting NO Gun Control in Florida.)
You know execution isn't instant, right?
Or money that could be used to better fortify our FL schools. *shall not infringe*
@@Randorandom232 Exactly.
Many forget it takes many years for it to happen.
For example, the Night Stalker was sentenced to death in 1989, but never got to be executed. He died from cancer in 2013 still behind bars.
Another example is one of the toolbox killers. He was sentenced to death in 1980, but lived on death row another 40 years before he died in 2020.
In a more downplayed comparison this is as if a person was on trial for kidnapping a child and one juror would be enough to decide on a 500$ fine instead of years in prison. And then you have that one juror who thinks it is not okay to put people in jail...
I am so very sorry for you and your loved ones. I believed that this should have been a death verdict.
This could have been about sending a message to stop these senseless killings in schools but for the jurors It was about feeling good about themselves for "sparing" him. how brave of them.
Capital punishment does not prevent mass shootings.
Well we’ll never know now.
Look folks, its the type of female that dates murders in jail. I thought these women knew enough to hide their shameful heads but right here is one of those "empowered" fems, who get "wet" over a criminal.
Wrong. It certainly prevent another mass shooting when the killer is dead.
They sure as hell blew it on this one. Where is the compassion for the victims and their loved ones? If he got a chance he would probably kill again.
This is heartbreaking.
My heart's broken for these families. The whole system failed not only the victims but also the victims families. How in the hell can you say MENTAL DEFECT. That POS knew what he was doing. As for the defense the judge should file for an Ethics complaints against the defense team.
I completely agree with this father, that monster has people worried about his mental health, and yet the victims have lost their childrens and loved ones, never to share their future with each other, put the victims in charge of their punishment, there is enough time to get evidence, but he admitted he killed 17 people and destroyed so many others, that has to deal with their endless grief, my heart goes out to each and other family, my heart aches alongside you do so all the grief, is on your shoulders, I stand with all parents, fighting to stop a person, that if ever given the chance, will snap exactly like he has since prison, there really isn’t enough help, or time to make these people understand the grief their behaviour has caused, there’s so many more people who may experience worse, and they don’t take this path, maybe society has shaped him, but he unfortunately got what, he wanted, notoriety from being a school shooter, there’s no help for these people,
And the FBI admitted to their neglect and are paying 40 parents and injured $127.5 million. This tragedy should never have happened.
I am sobbing at work. How heartless. Isn’t god going to do the same if he deems them unjust? Now. You can say well…god reads heart and maybe he saw he wasn’t right in the mind. Okay. Then god will give him a second chance. but we do not need a human being like this taking our money and taking up space.
God is forgiving. The only thing God will not forgive is unforgiveness.
You believe in god? Didn't god say you must not murder? You're so quick to be a hypocrite and forget these things when it serves you..
Do you really think god sits up in the clouds & micromanages everything on earth?
Every person is guilty of something and God had mercy on all mankind past, present and future when He sent His only begotten Son Jesus Christ to earth. He was crucified and God raised Him from the dead.
Jordan, please in all sincerity, please read Matthew 12:32 about this. You will understand why.
Horrible decision by that jury!!!!
I hope that this case somehow reopens and the parents receive justice that they deserve.
6:40 As he said this on Oct 13th a mass shooting happened in Raleigh NC not even a full 24 hours later
I completely agree with this man, that juror lied to get on the jury.
I wish that they would transfer Christopher J. Scarver Sr. to Nicholas prison. He is an expert at dealing with monsters like him.
My condolence to all the family members that lost love one. The family needs justice and closer for the families. My thoughts and prayers are with families 😥 🙏🙏
My prayers go out for all of you. Justice was not served. My heart breaks for you. I will continue to pray for all of you and that somehow, somewhere find some kind of peace. God bless
R.I.P all victims 🙏🇵🇷🙏
That attorney with the middle finger antic absolutely had me livid! How immature and disrespectful!
This may seem like an injustice, until you remember how this worked out for Jeffrey Dahmer.
People love misusing the word “injustice” I see.
An injustice applies to someone who gets away with murder by walking free. A couple examples of this is OJ Simpson and the two guys who killed Emmitt Till.
That's true, he may not last long in prison.
THANK GOD for prison justice. I will be praying it happens soon.
I think they have his death arranged in prison honestly.
I love this guy. He has been so strong & has honestly been very put together. He seems like he's a professional spokesperson the way he speaks
This man needs to find the judge, the cowardly juror(s), and the Defense team, and make THEM personally accountable.
Yo you can still delete this lol
Watching too many movies
Congrats you’ve just earned your spot on the FBI watchlist
@@dankdigital4058 These peole that think it's ok to just take out the jurrors for not doing what they think they should have are crazy!
shocked and horrified at this miscarriage of justice! so sorry for your loss 😔
Im so sorry for these families on so many levels. On a sidenote, the father here could be a host of a TV or radio show. He's got that kind personality.
I feel for the families and their losses , just keep in mind the prison population hates violence against children ,
Im sure he will be taken care of , and justice will be served...
Cute to think a prison would let him in gen pop.
They got Dahmer, hopefully they get him too.
@@oxyfee6486 would be best case scenario 🤞🤞
I hope people protect themselves, because it's clear the system won't give them protection or justice.
Basically the message I got , our money over kids in America 😡🇺🇲 #MAGA
I am really sorry after witnessing the pain of all 17 families who in the name of justice got LOLLIPOP. Unfortunately in this country lots of people don't see justice. I also faced Injustice so I can understand their pain. All I can say is this country has not learned from their past mistakes.
There's a lot of time ahead of this young man. Imagine living 70 years in prison. That's a long time.
Good, that’ll give him plenty of time with other inmates who won’t be so merciful
EVIL WON TODAY
If you want someone dead, id say you're the evil one... Justice was served, evil (more murder) was stopped
Joe Biden is still an idiot
You’re full of shit.
He didn’t get away with it, he’s going to be confined to a cell for 20 hours a day, and deprived most of his freedoms and privacy.
I am stunned!
What do you exactly want ?
What is justice ?
The juror (or jurors) who caused this outcome got it so wrong. They shouldn’t have been on that jury….they clearly weren’t going to vote for the DP all along….and that is wrong!! How can they live with themselves? And how can those defense lawyers live with themselves? They were so unprofessional and rude throughout this whole preceding. And zero human compassion from them. Only compassion for a despicable waste of a human life,piece of garbage, monster!! I pray the other inmates get their hands on him….
So what's stopping the next shooter from doing something sick like this, knowing they'll just get life in prison wtf is wrong with this system
We stand with you and the families!! The jurors who didn't think what he did warrented a DP are absolutely disgusting humans like I said if it happened to them and there family they would have a completely different opinion. People suck in this world now a days can't even get the easiest of DP cases right like wtf do you need to do in US to get the DP kill 100 children would that do it?.... probably not smfh 🤢🤮
Well life in prison is not really getting away with it...
My thoughts exactly
I feel bad for these parents, but it’s wrong for them to say justice wasn’t served.
It was. Justice not being served would be him walking scot free.
Not only that but people need to learn those on death row are rarely executed immediately
I hope people read his tweet of his true feelings on Twitter, b/c he tells us things we didnt know from the trial.
Whose tweet?
@@cpcaprocephalus8616 Fred Guttenberg
@@Ph.D.. thanks
@@cpcaprocephalus8616 NP, he tells us about how rude the teacher was & how he laughed about the whole experience, etc.
It’s complicated. Taking someone’s life is more complicated than even an entire jury can decide. They didn’t fail anyone
I'm so sorry. Bless you. 💚💛❤️🌱💯
A 15 year old boy kill 5 people on a walking trail yesterday in North Carolina and injured others. He blew his brother away too and a off duty police officer.
He will get shanked in prison!! The guards will get paid to do it
I too hope this bastard doesn’t survive long in prison. He did not deserve to be let go this way. I would like to know the jury make up. We know the political make up of corrupt Broward county FL.
Yes!! I am so for your lost!! We need change so this doesn’t happen again!!
Shame on the jury!
What happened to majority carries the vote?