Eric Bischoff SHOOTS On UNTOLD Reason He Fired Steve Austin!
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- Опубликовано: 31 дек 2023
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Are there any Bischoff firings you would reverse? Let us know in the comments below!
Are they not ?
Letting the cruiser weight division go. Back in the day I hated watching Hogan but watched Chris Jericho every segment. When he walked I also walked over to wwe.
When I seen the title I knew Eric was gonna spew some BS 😂
Why don't you be an Eric Bischoff apologist without trying to include your listeners in Eric's delusions...
Saying Bischoff knows nothing about the business is BS. Even if it’s from Bret (who, let’s face it, is pretty bitter.) I’ve spoken to Eric personally on a number of occasions, once back in 99 and a couple of times since. He’s not stupid, and yes he does know the business. You don’t take a losing company to dominance without knowing what to do. People are critical are forgetting extenuating circumstances. Yes he made mistakes but to say he knows nothing is bs. Think of this… the attitude era in the big commercial 2 was started by him and the NWO idea. Without that, there is no attitude era. (You could say Paul Hayman really started it. But Eric beat Vince). The super evil boss character..idea was Eric’s first, not Vince’s. The idea to go head to head, the live tapings, the 12 ppvs, these changed wrestling and it was Eric who did it, not Vince. Give him credit.
Imagine knowing you fired three guys who were all instrumental in eventually taking down your company.
Even worse... imagine being handed Bret Hart on a platter and whiffing so catastrophically.
@@jimbo_1312 Wasn't all Bischoff's fault though, didn't Goldberg mess up and put Bret into early retirement?
@@Spongemonkey26That was over a year after Bret was wasted with poor booking.
@@Myrridan19 Bret was never going to get the right programs with guys like Hogan, Hall, and Nash pulling the strings, particularly Hogan. Bret was never one of Hogan's guys and although he wasn't enemies with Hall and/or Nash I don't think he was particularly close with them either. Bret also wasn't going to play the games backstage necessary to elevate his place in WCW and it would have taken a lot of navigating considering how many players there were at that time.
well, HHH was overrated. I like what RD Reynolds said about HHH, "HHH was never more than the 5th most over member of DX."
I gotta agree with Eric, HHH at the start was never "The Game." Even when I started watching Hunter during the ORIGINAL run of DX, I couldn't have imagined what he would end up becoming.
Nobody could have, but most fans are too ignorant to understand that. They only have hindsight vision
I dont agree when he went out with the quad injury , his return was huge and pushed him to that level.
@chuckfriedricegaming8578 Yeah, but by that time, he was already a main event player. Great rivalries with the Rock, Steve Austin, and Mick Foley. Arguably the best heel in the company at the time!
@@chuckfriedricegaming8578 triple h was huge before the quad injury. The main guys in the heavyweight contention was Austin rock Jericho angle and triple h. Arguably u could put triple h right behind Austin and rock
@@thepistolguy859 The injury made people appreciate HHH more.
He's spot on about HHH. Hunter's role is being "the guy who works with THE guy". A role he's phenomenal at, too. But when compared to the all time greats who are in consideration for the proverbial Mt Rushmore of wrestling he falls woefully short
Proverbial Mt Rushmore of professional wrestling.
I like that.
Dusty Rhodes, Ric Flair, Hogan, Harley Race, Jerry Lawler and André in my mount Rushmore of professional wrestling.
What were you watching played the game and won
@@carlossosa1359 we're evaluating his ability as a pro wrestler, not his willingness to sleep his way to the top.
@carlossosa1359 there was a point where HHH was my favorite wrestler . He got a monster pop when he came back from injury
HHH was overrated.
Eric is one of the best shoot interviews in all of wrestling. He's a great story teller with great stories.
If you like lies and nonsense that is.
@@ShadowAngel606 what has he lied about exactly in this interview?
@@kelefane6233 The whole story about Austin? Because for years and years Bischoff said the reason he fired Austin was because he threw a tantrum over having to job to Duggan in 30 seconds.
Later he changed the story that he fired Austin because he saw no potential in him ("You wear all black, i can't market that") and now for the THIRD time he changes the reason why he fired him.
By now it's just getting laughable.
Also that he claims Austin was injury prone is a laughable lie. Austin worked between 150 and 215 matches per year for WCW. In fact, the only serious injury he ever got before 1997 was injuring his tricep - but that happened in Japan in August 1995 when he was already fired from WCW.
@ShadowAngel606 go watch the Austin and Eric interview on Austin's podcast. Austin basically confirmed Eric's story lol.
if Austin is cool with Bishoff then so am I.
Eric took WCW to another level. He also sent the talent to WWF to take them to the next level.
Eric didn't do anything. You have to give all the credit to Kevin Sullivan, Hogan, Hall, Nash and Andre Freitas (He came up with the very unique look for the promo videos, entrances, the Souled Out set and everything else regarding the production and presentation) who made the nWo actually work.
Eric is why wcw went bankrupt
@Shadit wasn't just N.W.O!
it was the whole roster of former WWF superstars,that people liked to owAngel606
With all due respect, HHH may have never been The Rock or Austin but he was the guy that had some of the best feuds with Rock, Austin and Cena. HHH could work a program with anybody and make it good he may not be on Mount Rushmore but he is one of the giants of WWE.
I agree with that and he was so good at being a heel which is mainly what he was most of his career. When you talk about superstardom you're talking about popularity and typically that's gonna be a fan favorite aka babyface. Heels can be superstars too but that's not really the goal the goal is to be disliked. "Damn him! Damn Triple-H! The son of a bitch!" 😂
Fuck that bro.. he made it sound like triple H was just completely TRASH! 🗑️ 😂😂😂 even tho I was never a fan of triple H , but come on..
nope
Rock and Austin had their best feuds with eachother. Cena had better feuds with both JBL and Edge if not more. Paul was boring as hell in the ring and on the mic. Only reason he wasn’t bottom mid-card is because he banged and married the boss’s daughter.
Triple H may not be on Mt Rushmore, but he held it up a bit.
I'm glad he did and I'm glad Triple H didn't get pushed after the curtain call otherwise we wouldn't have got one of the biggest wrestling stars in history... "And that's the bottom line"...
Steve was gonna be a big star no matter what that promo was gonna happened regardless
Nonsense. Austin wasn't even pushed after the KotR, he was still doing the ringmaster gimmick, wasn't even put on Summerslam and got nothing. Vince still saw nothing in him. It wasn't until Cornette, Hayes and Ross finally convinced McMahon to just let Austin do his thing.
And Austin would've been a big star regardless. He had everything going for him. Paul Heyman predicted already in 1992 that "5 years from now he will the biggest star in the business".
@@ShadowAngel606 Austin was born after doing the first Austin 3:16 promo after winning kotr however I never said Austin got pushed just after that. I said I was glad HHH didn't. Otherwise we wouldn't have got Austin
@@frenziedgaming Austin still would've risen to the top. It's WWE revisionist history to think otherwise.
Had HHH won instead of 1996, what would change?
Again: Austin wasn't even pushed after his win. In July and August he mostly jobbed to Marc Mero. Then jobbed to Bret and HBK and even lost a match against Eddie Jackey and Jason Ahrndt (yes, you now went "Who?") on Superstars.
It wasn't until 1997 that Fans finally started to get behind them. By then the 3:16 was long in the past.
The most important moment for Austin was the Screwjob and the subsequent heel turn of Vince. Their feud is what catapulted Austin into the stratosphere and that would've happened regardless of the KotR more than 1 year before.
And it also has to be stated that winning the KotR or cutting a promo as a winner basically never did anything. Out of all the people winning that stupid tournament, only 2 went on to become drawing stars: Austin and Edge and both never needed the win to become those stars.
Everybody else from Bret to Owen to Mabel to Shamrock to Lesnar to Angle and Booker never got anything out of it, they remained total non-draws.
Austin 3:16 says I just whooped you ass
This is the first time I’ve ever heard any “real” person say what everyone has always know about HHH. Well done sir.
I dunno, I never hated a heel more than I hated triple h during the attitude era
💯💯
I’ll say he was great in 2002 tho when he came back & thats it really
I completely disagree. In fact, I think that Triple H was the greatest working heel in the attitude era .. And I think he was the greatest worker in wrestling for a period of about four or five years.
@@dbreiden83080 those 4 or 5 years were filled w burials tho lets be honest. Greatest heel.. you can add that to the resume too no lie
lol I can't believe how honest he was here about HHH
I think he was a little harsh. Yes Triple H was no Rock or Austin, but that level of megastar is rare. Triple H developed into a bona-fide main eventer that was entertaining on the mic and could work with anyone. I do agree though that back in 1993 no one would thought he would be a star. It's different than Austin who always showed great wrestling ability and very entertaining in whatever he did.
@@GameTime-yj6qvHHH never entertained me or did anything interesting in front of my eyes
@@HT.100 not his original DX days? His feud with Rock? McMahon-Hemlsey era? Two Man Power trip? His feuds with Punk or Daniel Bryan when Triple H was COO?
@@GameTime-yj6qvduring the authority angle, that was HHH at his worst.
With Punk, again buried him for no reason
Cornette said it best. HHH was never the guy. He was the guy good enough to work with the guy.
Where tf do you find the entire interviews at? All I can find on their channel are clips
Probably behind a paywall on their website
if Bischoff didnt fire them they would have never gone to wwe and we wouldnt have had the content we have so thank you eric for the attitude era !
If Bischoff hadn’t brought Hogan in. If Bischoff hadn’t convinced Turner to go head to head with WWF on Monday night. If Bischoff hadn’t brought Hall and Nash in. There wouldn’t have been an attitude era.
@@bluecollartradesman715 Doesn't matter, Austin was pushed out because WCW was still involving older wrestlers and didn't see him as potential "talent. "
@@troysmith8334 Austin needed to get fired to motivate his ass. Stunning Steve Austin was a floundering gimmick.
@@bluecollartradesman715 If you were in WCW for 4-5 years and didn't get a title push, yeah, there would be push back big time. He already knew he was getting passed over once he lost the US title.
Stone Cold wouldn't be who he is without him beating the hell out of Vince McMahon
I wish these full interviews were available for streaming.
I wish they release immediately and not years after :/
Ahh so he fire Foley for being Foley.
Same dude late 90s was having his guys jump off balconies with their fake hardcore matches
I think that was after they saw Mick doing it in WWF. Lol 😂!
times changed since then
Foley is a weirdo leftist with all daughters who think they’re men
And dozens and dozens jump off balconies
Are you a Darby Allin defender?
Hunter was the top heel forever, I miss his work
Nope
@@TheUnseen0n3yup .
@@TheUnseen0n3yes
His theme song should be Sniskys. It wasn't my fault
I disagree, Triple H was an all-time great heel. It might not scratch a particular Itch for a particular person, different strokes for different folks after all, but his heel work underneath McMahon was frankly vital to the attitude Era.
HHH was the Attitude Era.
@@richevans609 I disagree. HHH rise to prominence during the attitude era, he was pivotal in WWF’s version of the nWo (DX). However Steve Austin is the attitude era. The runner up is the Rock….That being said HHH is the ruthless aggression era. Evolution, reign of terror, marrying Steph, etc. my vote for the runner up is John Cena, who broke out at that time and undoubtedly lays claim to the PG era.
Nope
HHH was like the Iron Sheik or Sargent Slaughter. He was the heel that fought the Mega Star. But wasn't the Hogan or Austin.
@awee5816 That's fair, and I would say by design. Vince always wanted massive iconic babyfaces to be the face of the franchise. I just think that those guys can't be iconic if the heel (or second to the top) isn't great.
It’s a blessing he let Them all go..They would NEVER have Developed into the characters they became without him letting them go..I’m sure ALL of them are greatful for Bischoff letting them go..
I think Austin still develops into a big time heel, at least, in WCW. He probably doesn't reach the peak of popularity in wrestling, but Austin had massive promo talent even in WCW. Both 'Terra Ryzing' and Foley would have eventually broke through somehow, but likely never reach their levels they did in WWE.
@@alanboody7004 Definitely..Well said that the platform WCW offered Austin could not give him what he needed to become the Version of himself WWF at the time could..It ALL worked out beautifully..Unfortunately with his injuries specifically His Neck from the recklessness of Owen with that heinous reverse pile driver and his knees it hurt his continuity..He would NEVER had to take time off..
I think I remember Bischoff even bringing this up in their No Way Out 2003 feud (or I think it was after that). Eric said something along the lines of "You would have never became Stone Cold if I didn't fire you".
Eric’s %100 right about Triple H.
And 100% wrong on everything else
Defo right hunter works with guys who make the money ! But I do love him lol
but he is
THAT
DAMN
GOODAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!
Respect Triple h
He is actually wrong because HHH always had superstardom about him. He was never no 1 but he was more or less always the no 1 heel. Cmon.
He let Owen hart go
He let Adam Copeland go
He let xpac go
He let Paul white go
He let Marc Mero go when he was hot for wcw
He didn't develop guys other than Goldberg
He let so many go that could have been good for the company
Agreed
Taker, Kane, Austin. He dropped the ball with Bret, ultimate Warrior, Rick Flair, Macho, Sting, Big Show, Booker T, Austin. But definitely Goldberg ✨😤✨How can you beat his streak Knowing that it's the only Reason the viewers are watching WCW over WWF. After that they shot themselves in the foot because of Kevin Nash Selfish booking. Then everyone went to see WWF. SMH 😐...
Very informative! The lawyer thing is something we should pay close attention to especially as Americans.
"Bischoff was big on firing people over the phone" - Jim Cornette
Legally that is how you got fired…
When you work with 6'6, 300lbs, steroid heads, who make a living being comfortable with violence... the phone makes a lot of sense.
My sister was a 911 dispatcher who got fired via email. While on workmans comp.@@mikeyoungblood1642
Jim Cornette is that annoying "superfan" who's never actually done anything right?
@Adam-zw1ck Yep, pretty much like most of these wrestling marks in the comments
I heard something from I think it was Piper or Jake who said HHH was the guy who worked with THE GUY; in other words, he was not THE STAR, but he worked THE STAR, which means you had to be a good hand. Eric was just behind the times with Mick and Steve was injury prone at the time, Steve had held every title in WCW at the time EXCEPT the HW Title, and he had no direction so yes he was frustrated, but this is one of those times I actually somewhat agree with Bitchoff
Cornette said that
Eric with yet another version of events after overtly stating he didn’t think Austin was star material. He just can’t accept that he shit the bed by firing him
No one knew austin was going to turn out to be the guy he was in the wwe in wcw as stunning steve. I mean even when he started out in the wwe he didn't get over at first as the ringmaster. It was not until the steve austin gimmick where he finally got over.
You act like Austin was a mega success right after leaving, heck he didn't even blow up until after the NWO. Its like blaming anyone for firing or letting Hogan go pre 83 before he blew up...AWA sure but anyone else is ridiculous
Yeah bit if that is true that he dud that while Shivone was on the phone then what would u have done if u were his boss? Just let him because u could see the future?
@@SteelRhinoXpress BULLSHIT. Go back to the RSPW Archive. They sadly only reach back to 1991 (google), but even back then, when he worked in GWF, pretty much every hardcore wrestling fan predicted Austin would be a huge star. He constantly won the MVP, Best Wrestler, Best Talker awards in that community. Go watch Havoc 1993, there's a guy with a "Steve Austin is the Superstar of the 90's" sign. Even the Newsletters, like Chatterbox and the Torch hyped up Austin already by 1992. Observer and PWI also named him Rookie of the Year.
EVERYBODY except Bankrupt Bischoff could see that Austin had near unlimited potential.
@@ShadowAngel18606 then if that were the case why did vince put him as the ringmaster, if he saw instant main event superstar in austin? Oh come on no one predicted that austin would turn out to be the megastar that he was. If that were the case every promotion he was in would have done everything to keep him knowing what he would have turned into. Cool so a fan posting someone is a superstar automatically makes it so that was predicated that he was going to be the megastar that he was? Rookie of the year doesnt make you be one an automatic superstar nor does it predict that you are going to be anything special. If that were the case then every number 1 draft pick in the nfl would be HOFers.
HHH always wanted to go to WWE. As for Eric Bischoff being friends with Mick Foley , Eric was the one who told Tony Schiavone to bury Foley on Nitro the night that he won his first world title. I guess that's business, though.
They say Steve Austin saved the WWE however it was actually this guy as he fired most of the talent that saved that company!
Not really . While stone cold was one of the reasons.
U forgot edge , Christian , Undertaker, rock
U need great stars to match your star
Facts 💯! Lol 😂!
This is crazy seeing as Austin is the main and #1 reason why WWF beat WCW in the ratings and never looked back!🖕💀 🖕 🍺 🍻
Imagine being this much of mark 30 years later 😆
@@TheUnseen0n3 imagine me caring about your response 🤷♂️
Kane, Taker, HHH, Mick Foley, Big Show, XPac. Basically everyone Bishoff let go.
Top shelf 👌
When bischoff told steve Austin your fired boy oh boy did that bite him in the azs Steve Austin became the saviour of the wwf/wwe
7:58 to be fair, Triple H left. He wasn’t fired. Triple H himself, in his documentary, said he’s the one who wanted a one-year contract with WCW, and left because he got an offer from Vince and didn’t want to be a tag team guy
No lie regarding HHH, besides the guy didn't trash him. Its just honest opinion 😂
If all he said especially about Mick and Austin, I couldn’t disagree with I’m. He is 100% about Triple H at that time. Now, he did develop into a great talent later on.
After being shoved down our throats for 20 years..........2nd chance, 3rd chance, 3th chance, 5th chance, 20th chance
Great interview, though I feel like there is more context behind Stone Cold story; the reason why we love him as a fan is the reason he got fired.
He didn’t let Steve Austin go, he let Stunning Steve go. That’s a big difference
Eric Bischoff didn't want to make Hogan share the spotlight with other wrestlers while they were in WCW. Austin, Foley, Helmsley, and Callaway would go on to become megastars in the WWE.
Exactly same reason he hated Flair.
@@rolltide9547flair is a turd
“HHH was the guy who worked with the guy who drew the money” -Jim Cornette
Did he work with Eddie ? Booker ? Hogan ?
People act like that is a bad thing. The "guy" needs to work with someone
@@guyverjay1289 Steiner was a much better heel than HHH and it wasn't close.
@@budwyzer77 🤷♂️
It’s amazing how many stars had to align for the attitude era to flourish.
If you watch any Austin promos from even WCW you could see the huge potential even then. Austin, minimally, had top-mid to low-main heel potential as a floor. He just happened to be so over as an anti-hero that translated to the peak popularity a wrestler can achieve.
Ultimately, I think firing Austin was a blunder even if it went the way Bischoff said, but also most anyone (other than superstars) would get fired immediately. As for Foley, that makes sense. It's a creative difference that was about safety if true. Plus, Foley is realistically a top mid-card, low main-eventer at peak. Terra Ryzing... nough said.
Hindsight is 20/20, but Austin still had massive potential even as a big-time heel. His promos were great even in WCW. Anyone could see Austin had that high floor.
Never been a big HHH fan myself, but saying that he’s never been a superstar or been great is WILD. Incredibly memorable music + entrance, crazy physique at his peak, superb promo skills and top notch in ring ability. Not to mention totally believable as a despicable heel. He will no doubt go down as one of the greatest to ever do it. I like Bischoff but that take is totally incorrect.
He was still green in WCW and didn't have that crazy physique that he had at his peak. He also didn't have his buddies in WCW to help him advance politically.
@@wizzerwiser2056 maybe, but that’s not what bischoff said here. He’s saying that looking back over HHH’s entire career, he has never been a superstar. That’s just wrong.
@@JonBrandonCruz He was a star before he married the boss's daughter. But after that he booked himself to be the top guy when he wasn't as popular as Rock and Austin or even Taker.
@@wizzerwiser2056 lmao he was pretty popular 😂😂 shit take
@@realruntz2608 He pushed himself over other talent. I'm sure there were other than could've succeeded in his place.
If Steve, Mick and HHH had never been let go they would not have been what they became. Steve I was just tired of weekly seeing Stunning Steve Austin. Had it not have been getting let go and then getting the final chance to reinvent himself in the WWE he would have never moved past midcard.
Bischoff is 100% correct specially in regards to HHH
Vince is the reason this wrestlers are who they where his story line was amazing
HHH was a Superstar Eric!
😂😂😂
I would have had a ton more respect if he just said “I fucked up”..they let Austin leave and Undertaker leave because of Ole…basically the point it….Heyman instantly saw star talent in Austin and Undertaker..and that’s why his IQ is next level..HHH played the long game as a survivor .
im sure he doesnt give a fuck if you dont respect him or not.
So lie. Thats what you want him to do. Lie.......
They hadn't found their characters yet so I understand. Wrestling business isn't a nurse and nature business they need big stars for the fans on the spot. Erik did us all a favor.
This is what I've been saying about HHH for years.
and X-Pac?
HHH is a goat period. I grew up thru the 90s hating him as heel of course But when I got smart to it all I realized the true greatness of The Game, he for sure should be HOF headliner when he goes in as a single n Ya can’t really say he’s not right there with Austin, Rock and Taker…I mean if I walk in a random bar n throw my arms up n spit water in the air most all of em will know who I’m copying jus like if I go in beer bathin myself
All the attitude era fanboys are already foaming at the mouth.. Steve DID say exactly that. I had a friend working in production for WCW. Confirmed that statement. He was severely frustrated with the story arc. Leaving WCW was the best thing for him. As we found out. Arguably the greatest WWE superstar of the last 30 years
bro the attitude era isnt complete without The GAME. PERIOD
Triple H won his first WWF World Title before he hooked up with Stephanie. I think he had a couple title runs before they officially dated.
@@Nintendomaster91 Not saying Triple H was a major star on the level of Austin, Rock, or Cena, but prior to his relationship with Stephanie he definitely cemented himself as the top heel in the company and a rising star. But in fairness to Eric, I wouldn't classify Triple H winding up with WWF as a failure on WCW's part. Paul Levesque grew up a huge WWF fan, is from CT, and the only reason he went to WCW was to build a name so WWF would sign him. At best, WCW could have held onto him for 1-3 years longer.
@@williamferraro6581I don't know about that. Triple H may had grew up in the WWF areas and programs but he was a major mark for the NWA. Triple H's style even before he became the Game had more of a NWA style than WWF. Every since he became an authority figure in WWE, the company started to acknowledged the NWA/WCW wrestlers such as Rock n' Roll Express, the Steiner Brothers, and Sting. Before that, it was just major former WWF wrestlers. The reason why he choose WWF over WCW because it was closer to home.
HHH was mostly good by association. He looked good when Sable was with him. When Shawn Michaels was with him. When Chyna was with him. When DX was with him. When Steff was with him.
@@awee5816 Nah, go back to 1999. I've never been a huge Triple H fan, but for a few years he was legitimately the best heel in the company. 99-00 Triple H was great.
@@williamferraro6581 he was mostly with someone to help his persona. Even when he was with Evolution or reunited with Shawn it was a group effort that made him look good.
I can somewhat understand letting Mick and Hunter go, but there's no plausible reason to let Austin go. I still remember very distinctly his feud with Ricky Steamboat over the TV title and how he had all the makings of a future world champion!
U forgot jericho, eddie , benoit , mysterio , jim ross etc
@@jacksmith-mu3ee Only Jericho was over. The rest of those guys sucked.
@@wizzerwiser2056 they sucked so much that they all became legends and wcw went under
neither of them are legends
@@wizzerwiser2056 all of them are
Pretty sure the undertaker as well
Without Bischoff, I declare that we wouldn't have Goldust. Had eric not fired Dustin, Vince wouldn't have used Dustin to portray Goldust.
Without Bischoff, we also would have not gotten Stone Cold.
This isn't gonna do me any good
...go on...
That's what makes a good interviewer right there. 😅😅😅
Never stop to Cease the moment
Never stop to Cease the moment
8:22 What...? He was the top heel for... close to a decade. I always find the "well he's not Rock or Austin" critque to be so bizarre. By that logic you've had 4 superstars ever in wrestling, lol.
He was banging the boss’s daughter. Only reason he wasn’t mid-card at best was because of that. Boring as hell on the mic. 4 moves max in the ring. His entrance was the only great thing he had. And he buried or held down multiple guys that were better and more deserving. Are you new to pro wrestling?
HHH became the top heel on his own. But he got married around the time of becoming the top heel.
It's kinda hard to position yourself into a top spot against nepotism...A lot of people have complained about HHH burying people. HHH saying "that's not believable" is the same as Hogan's "that doesn't work for me."
We just gonna ignore the years of burying that Paul did?
he got married in 2003 he was a top heel by the end of 99 and arguably 2000 being his biggest year feuding with rock @@PhillipCummingsUSA
You make a valid point. … HOWEVER, to say he was THE top heel for ‘close to a decade’, would be inaccurate. That title goes to ONE man and one man only. …. The evil Mr. McMahon !!!! 😈
Not a fan of Bischoff, but gotta agree with the man
No we wont
The guy who let go of austin , jericho , malenko , Eddie , benoit , Jim ross
Bisch describing Steven P New to a T.
Eric wanted Austin to do promos while injured, but always had Foghorn Leghorn doing promos for Austin while Steve was healthy. They was no storyline going for Steve even before he got injured, unless you count jobbing for Jim Duggan in US title squash match...
Yeah... A lot of people said that Bishoff didn't have a Clear direction of where the boat ⛵ was going. He sometimes did everything at the last second. Him getting involved on camera 🎥 with the wrestlers made it worst cause he wasn't focused on the business.
Imagine if He didn't fire Austin and Foley and the WWE never had the rattlesnake or any hell in the cell spots. WWE probably would've gone out of business because only so far could taker and dx could carry the company
I think Taker was ready to jump ship to WCW with the American Badass persona...Vince threw just more cash at Taker for him to stay.
@@andrewjames9996 I seriously doubt that. Undertaker was a Vince guy and knew everything he accomplished in wrestling was because of Vince. He was always loyal to him.
I'm sure Bret would agree with Bischoff's view on Triple H not ever really being a elite superstar.
To say Triple H was never great is laughable.. One of the best heels the industry has ever seen. Austin and The Rock didn't get themselves over.
HHH was an "ok" heel. If you remember your history, Austin got super over in 90's against Bret Hart, and the top guys that Vince sent out against him in their rivarly. HHH helped Rock get over, but HHH was a DX babyface, and Rock was the mega heel. Heel Triple H started getting better in 2000's, but then turned into the Sledge Hammer guy that won too much.
Austin and Pilman were "over" in WCW in 93 as a tag team and then WCW splits the tag team. Austin is pushed as a singles wrestler and then "loses " the title in seconds to Duggan. At that point, i'd be pissed too.
Triple H wipes the floor with Cena. Stone Cold and The Rock I agree, but Triple H was amazing and strangely enough will probably be only second to Vince McMahon for impact on the business.
I think he's unfairly labelled for marrying Stephanie. He was a main eventer and a World Champion before they got together.
You are talking nonsense. Even vince never used him as the man.
@tonyclifton2230 what part is nonsense? He's behind Stone Cold and The Rock but ahead of Cena. Cena couldn't wrestle, he was only ever a good character. He's practically running the biggest wrestling show on earth now. I really can't see what part you see is nonsense.
@@richcymru3976 cena was the guy for ten years. He had memorable matched against rvd, cm punk, the rock to name but a few. Trips was only ever the guy who wrestled the guy.
@tonyclifton2230 Cena was regularly booed out of the building as the most pushed face the company ever had, he was completely manufactured. Triple H could play villain, a good guy with DX and always got the reaction in the role. Triple H helped create Randy Orton and Batista, Cena never created anyone.
How people can label Cena on Triple H's level is strange to me. He had the same character for 10 years, looked completely clumsy in the ring, the first 10 rows could hear him calling the next move, had the same match for about 8 years.
@@richcymru3976 do you think cena couldn't be heel? He didn't do it because he was never allowed.
Sometimes getting let go is the kick in the pants that you need. Those guys probably never would have risen like they did if they hadn't been let go.
I fully agree with Bischoff about HHH. I always felt like he would have been the Hulk Hogan of his time, if not for the fact that Rock, Steve Austin, and Undertaker were all in the same place at the same time. One could argue that HHH was only HHH BECAUSE of those guys, but still.
“Because I am stupid” - Eric Bischoff
He knew Austin had that personality but didn't want to give him a world title push..... Too many "chiefs" and not enough indians at the time in WCW!
Hhh was great for sure, DX was hilarious
HHH was a good heel to have around. But he was great by association. With DX, Shawn, Sable, Chyna, Steff, etc..
Triple h was arguably better than the rock. Check out him v taker
Bro stop 😐🚫. The Rock, Austin, Hogan, & John Cena had their Own movies 🎥 in leading Roles.
Crack is wack
Eric has thee PERFECT analysis of Triple H.
I like how the interviewer starts off by saying "wwe revisionist thing" and then the comments on the video prove how much the wwe swayed there thoughts on what really happened.
I strongly disagree that triple H wasn’t a great wrestler. He was a HUGE part of wrestling in the late 90’s and 2000’s
He fired Mick Foley, Austin, etc. It's not like WWE hasn't fired future main eventers before.
Let's cut the crap. This happens in wrestling all the time. People just hate on Bischoff because they are jealous of his success.
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Name one future Main Eventer the WWF fired. I can't even really think of one who was there, then went somewhere else and became a bigger star. The closest is probably Barry Windham, but he never was a real draw anywhere.
@ShadowAngel18606 the whole business is predictated on moving from one territory to another and then coming back. If you are taking the term fired literally, my point was about people the wwf/wwe didn't resign, released, didn't renew, etc.
The Rockers were fired when they first went to WWF. A whole crap load of guys were fired during the steroid trials. Look how many guys got released after Mania each year.
Austin and Foley never would have worked in WCW. They were too corporate. You think Austin/Bischoff would be a money feud? You think Austin would be swearing, drinking beer and being a degenerate on Ted Turner's TV?
Yes Bischoff fired them. But it's not like he could have made them what they were in that corporate environment.
Furthermore, those guys were bookef against an aging nWo in late 98/99.
You had to have the rise of the nWo to happen for the Attidude Era to happen.
@@Raydensheraj ok Epstein
Why don't u tell us ?
Those fired by bischoff . Where did they go
The problem was that Bishoff wanted to go Head to Head vs. WWF at the Time as soon as he got hus guns ready. What Bishoff underestimated was that the enemy was going to get Strong on what he left behind in the Art of War.
I disagree with 90% of this bs. But damn, "I'm back! And better than ever", was a legit time period.
Did steve ever do the stun gunn as a move in a wwf/wwe ring?
I think Eric is just being salty because he fired people who turned out to be gems in the wrestling industry, while Vince McMahon made them real stars + millions of dollars, which Eric failed to do, and in the end, he had nothing but memories.
Like they say in my country - "You lost the rope and the goat."
The corner stone you neglect is the 1 you end up needing. He Focused too much on Hogan, Scott, & Nash. He also wanted to be buddies 🤝 with The NWO. Then wanted to be in the show with them instead of managing them in the outside cause his plate was too full.
I'm the biggest Austin fan but he hit his peak in WCW. He wasn't going to be main event with the stunning gimmick. He needed to go elsewhere to find those missing pieces and did he ever.
Is that right , ''Mike'' . Glad you have that insight nearly 30 years later . Where would we be without you ?
@@user-qx3eb2jx1p The sarcasm is strong with you.
@@user-qx3eb2jx1p why do people use " " for no reason? It makes you look "incredible."
@user-qx3eb2jx1p Almost like he's providing a take years after the fact. Try starting a weak ass argument elsewhere Biden voter.
@@PhillipCummingsUSAthe fact your seriously asking this shows you need to get out more
I’ve never heard Bischoff ever say “I made a mistake, it’s my fault ”
I'm a Austin man. But to say HHH has never been a superstar is a joke. Look at his return in 2001 at New York. Probably the greatest pop ever 😊
Hunter was a main eventer before he got with Steph. The attitude era wouldn’t have been what it was without him. He was a top draw.
Ill tell you what, Bischoff is very entertaining and is an amazing salesman. I can see how he rose up the ranks and ended up running WCW. His downfall is not having enough wrestling people helping him book and letting the inmates run the asylum, especially Hogan.
🤨 All he had was wrestling people helping him book
WWF had the ability to build characters and tell interesting stories. Beyond the over the top stuff, they had great writing/angles...something WCW was terrible at pulling off.
Not utilizing young talent was a huge mistake.
That's a lie
Yes the guy who let go of Jericho , edge , Malenko , Steve Austin , Benoit , Eddie.
Yes so helpless
@@JonySmith-bb4gx HHH, Taker, Kane, Mick Foley, Ultimate Warrior, Big Show, XPac, Jim Ross
What Eric said about HHH, that is true with most wrestlers. When it was 'Stunning' Steve Austin, or when he first started out as the Ringmaster, few people envisioned he was end up as the megastar he became. Same with HBK, Bret Hart, and the Rock. On the other hand, guys like Hogan, Warrior, and Goldberg were pushed early on to become big stars; no surprises there.
Tripleh never been a superstar??? Are you high bischoff? Tripleh is one of the GOATS! everyone says he is a ring general and not to mention he still to this day is the greatest heel wwf/wwe has ever had! Multi time champion molded other superstars I mean come on give the man his much deserved respect and recognition!
Eric bischoff is right triple h is a legend but is extremely overrated and could never reach the rock or stone cold Steve Austin's level and only got ahead because he married Stephanie McMahon period end of discussion facts 💯✌️.
facts are that he won the wwf title before ever dating or knowing stephanie so thats just simply not true and something people only try to use today cause they hate his guts hhh was already the top heel in the company by the end of 99 early 2000 right before they got close
@@miketurner643 I'm watching Reliving the War and in April 1999 Stephanie is routinely on TV and HHH doesn't have the belt yet. I just googled it and he won the title in Aug 1999.
And the married storyline happens in Nov months later.
Like, I don't think Eric Bishoff is saying HHH won his first title because of Stephanie. But HHH definitely benefited by being married to Stephanie. People complain about him just burying talent in the 2000s like Booker T and such. And is HHH going to move up the corporate ladder like he has if he isn't married into the family? He was going to production meetings in his early days while he first got to WWE but we don't know. And the reality is he probably wouldn't.
my point was people pretend that hhh only got a massive push due to being with the bosses daughter which is simply not true given as you said won his first title in august of 99 which was probably the most stacked time for talent they started to date in 2000@@PhillipCummingsUSA
He fired Steve austin because he wouldn’t know talent if it was staring him right in face. I’ll quote Bret Hart, Bischoff knows nothing about the wrestling business.
Amen bro
Didn't Steve say he understood why he was fired and said if situations were reversed he do the same
@@Michael-wh1vs he was being kind about it because it was in the past, let by gones be by gones, but everyone knows bischoff knew nothing about wrestling. That’s why WCW failed. Pretty ironic that the same guy he fired virtually put him out of business in the other company.
@@Michael-wh1vs Austin has very little reason to be sore about it. He became a megastar for it. He would have never been utilized the WWF way in Bischoffs paycheckland
@@Michael-wh1vs yeah we agree on that . But u forgot 1 part
Were Eddie , benoit , Mysterio, edge , triple h , Malenko and others also understood same way ?
So he fires Austin based on hearsay? Based on Schiavone's word alone he fires Austin? Any good boss that works for a large company that has a legal department would either contact the employee himself or have someone else contact him and confirm the refusal. (Human Resources would be my guess.) Anything less could be a legal nightmare. I don't believe Tony Schiavone was management or an official. lead announcer yes but not management.
While I haven't listened to his podcast with Conrad it's possible that Tony was like J.R. on air announcer and some level if talent relations. Or if Tony had that ability to be trusted that says a lot. Because when Eric heard about the Vader Ordorff fight the person who told him was his assistant Genie who wasn't know to pull b.s. so when Eric heard that version of the event and knew both guys he believed it.
Man, Eric Bishcoff looks like a worn out, old, defeated man - its all there in his eyes. In another world, this might have been Vince sitting in that chair. Wild how fate plays.
Bischoff speaking the gospel. HHH was made into a Main Eventer. Austin, Rock, and I'll go farther back to Hogan, became Main Eventers. Their rise was organic. Hunter was put there. Bret and Shawn were also put there but they held their own and you could say belonged there, they did have "it". Triple H didn't have it.
Lol. At least HHH was a draw. Bret was the worst drawing WWF Champ from 1992 until 2001 and still holds records for main eventing the worst drawing WWF PPV of all time (IYH5) and attracting the lowest attendance of any WWF Champion in the MSG, Meadowlands and most importantly, the Saddledome in his fucking hometown, which led to the WWF abandoning Calgary for over 2 years.
@@ShadowAngel18606 Pretending HHH is a draw is like saying Mcdonald's is a good hamburger because it sells a lot. Hunter was in the title picture because he was smart enough to recognize the need for a heel and pushed for him to be the guy. Lets not act like the popularity of wrestling because of the NWO, Austin, & the Rock had much to do with HHH. Hell, even DX was Shawn and when HHH was the leader the New Age Outlaws were the draw. Hunter was the least interesting one in the group and knew it. That's why he wanted to be the bad guy.
@ShadowAngel18606 Name me one instance where Triple H was a draw how can Bret be blamed for an entire shitty card during one of the worst years in wrestling history? Just say you don't know shit and move on.
true funny how all these marks try to pretend that they were bret hart fans today when nobody gave a flying fuck about boring bret hart in 1997 lol only canadians liked bret hart that due flopped in wwf and wcw lol @@ShadowAngel18606
Don't try to compare Austin or Rock to Hogan.
Bishoff’s bullshit here is legendary, even for him. Except for Paul. His assessment of Paul is correct. Only reason that guy got above mid-card is bc he married the daughter of the boss.
He’s wrong about Triple H too. If he was mid card at best it would’ve showed. He was part of DX one of the most famous factions of all time so famous that people still do the suck it to this day. He was the antithesis to the Rock and Austin, while everybody loved the baby face there needed to be the heel everyone hated and it was him. He was also part of evolution another one of the most famous factions of all time. He had classic matches with rock and Austin, and angle, and Jericho, to me his most iconic at wrestlemania with undertaker. He legitimately filled the shoes that at first may have been too big for him.
He was main eventing before he was married to Stephanie
I don't know, taking over DX after Shawn's back injury kind of elevated HHH's career. The elite segments that DX had in 1998 and 1999 were awesome. Plus, in the 2000s, all the talent that was in front of HHH were old and retired or decided to work somewhere else. For example, the Rock went to hollywood and Stone Cold neck injury finally caught up and was basically done as a wrestler. HBK came back but HBK just wanted to be a background character to elevate the young guys. Really, before John Cena, Randy Orton, and Brock Lesnar were ready, Triple H was the most logical choice to carry the company in the early to mid-2000s. Would Triple H had become a 14 time champion without marrying the bosses daughter? Probably not, but Triple H had the body of a main eventer that Vince likes and the promo skills were top notch.
@@manuelchalas7957 During the attitude era, HHH is the low draw in DX. New Age Outlaws were the draw. HHH might be above Xpac, but I'd say maybe slightly above or even. That's the entire reason he wanted to leave and become a heel.
Its exactly like Bishoff stated, he's a hard worker and learned the business. HHH went to production meetings, etc and learned WWF wrestling. He's not the best performer.
@@manuelchalas7957No one does the suck it anymore tf lol this dude must be Triple Hs burner
It doesn’t matter who he kept or released the problem with wcw was NEVER a lack of talent it was bad booking and bad politics
I agree with Eric on why would anyone see Triple h becoming anything when im WCW, however his comments after that do Triple h a great disservice. He was already a top heel and over with DX before marrying Stephanie and had amazing matches with the top baby faces helping put them over. He WAS great, one of the best heels to do it for me.
The fact that the wrestlers Eric fired would all become huge stars shows how much he knew about wrestling. Bischoff was one of those conmen who slipped into the wrestling business. Here he is making excuses trying to justify his huge mistakes instead of admitting he got it wrong.SMH😅!
As i always say, Bankrupt Bischoff was the biggest mistake to ever happen in the wrestling industry and the entire business still suffers from that era.
WWF didn't fire wrestlers who became stars? WCW misfired because Turner wasn't in control of his company anymore and production funding dropped. And that gave the company reason to sell WCW. That's what they wanted even when WCW was doing good.
@@PhillipCummingsUSA who told u that ?
@@JonySmith-bb4gx He made it up! lol!🤣
I don’t stone cold could’ve been stone cold without being fired from WCW
He also let go of
Jim ross , jericho , benoit, edge, malenko , Eddie , mysterio .
I agree with the HHH comment. He started out as HBK's luggage boy, and moved up the latter year after year. Obviously peaking after HBK, the Rock, and Stone Cold left. Marrying Stephanie proved be all part of "The Game", which summed up his personality.
I can agree to a point about HHH but then I'd say after 99 I definitely consider him one of the all time greats.
Eric already stated in interview that he never considered Steve Austin to be "big player".
No matter what Eric says
Just remember this guy fired/let go of austin , jericho , eddie , benoit , malenko . Didn't even care about edge despite his debut match was with wcw .
So spare me eric excuses .
Stone cold , rock , edge , Eddie , Benoit , Jericho and many others are proof that Eric was way into hogan and nwo nonsense to care about the gold he was sitting on
Bischoff was an idiot he fired Austin & did many stupid things but Jericho's contract expired, eddie, Dean, benoit & Saturn left while Bischoff was at home not in charge of anything, Edge also wasn't fired or looking for a job in WCW he agreed to wrestle a couple enhancement matches as a one time thing.
@@redfire2987 there u go ..they all were frustrated by bischoff policies
While it's true that Jericho contract expired , u forgot that they wasted him to no end . He worked on his own and still made better angles.
@@redfire2987 also they left bcz of everything that transpired during his reign
In a place where Scott hall has creative control , but the great talent is ignored . That's a crime ..
Every wwe major star was an ex wcw talent minus rock and undertaker. Just imagine that
@@JonySmith-bb4gx I absolutely agree they wasted Jericho, u said Bischoff fired Jericho, Eddie, Benoit & Malenko, he fired none of them
@@JonySmith-bb4gx Hulk Hogan had creative control Scott Hall did not, I actually watched this stuff back when it happened
You can tell when he is lying or fabricating, he goes on long winded expositions to try and justify his answer. Great story teller, terrible liar.
HHH had his best run from 99-02. After that, it was clear his relationship with Steph was influencing his storyline decisions that were better for his run but not necessarily for the company. The Reign of Terror is awful looking back on it and a big reason why Smackdown was the better wrestling show during that time period.
Don't like Bischoff and don't agree with most of what he says but he is 100% correct about Hunter.
He’s right about HHH , good not great and never on the level of Austin , Rock or Hogan , despite what WWE tries to tell us
Triple H was the guy who worked with the guy who drew the money. But I wouldnt throw him under the bus for that either. Austin, Rock and Hogan looked good after the 2000's because of Triple H. He was the heel and he played it well. Given that he hasnt been in active roster for a while yet almost anyone knows who he is. And the movie stardom is a mute point considering Rock is the only one who really got into movies from Wrasslin business and even he started turning into a proper one after he started breathing steroids instead of just injecting and eatin em.
He was the heel foil for Rock (and Austin towards the end). You can say he's not at their level, but you need the heel for people to really get behind the face.
Who was a better heel?
@@Lyfeastrey honestly, HHH was just playing himself in WCW, and i do get the feeling that him being exposed to larger than life PERSONALITIES like HBK pushed him personally to be more charsimatic.
The stench of bullshit and revisionist history exudes through this interview. Time heals all wounds with wrestlers who hated each other during their prime generally burying the hatchet as older and wiser men. Bischoff quotes Stone Cold on the podcast accurately but his story about Foley is almost certainly bullshit constructed over several decades to sound plausible same as with Triple H who was a great worker, never top tier but a great No2 guy. Bischoff let all that talent slip through his fingers when Heyman or Vince never would have.
Or maybe he’s telling the truth about it all and I can no longer smell BS.
Triple H was a great wrestler, but Jean-Paul Lévesque certainly wasn't. And both Vince and Heyman have had a lot of misses over the years.
Mick Foley and Austin wouldn't have become what they became if it wasn't for their firings. Stunning Steve was a garbage gimmick and it wasn't until the Stone Cold persona that he became as popular as he did. Either way, Stone Cold, Mick Foley, and Triple H didn't become stars until years later after their firings. Eric Bischoff still dominated WWF in the ratings and made more money for WCW and Ted Turner before they truly became main eventers. By the time they did become house hold names, Time Warner had already stripped Eric Bischoff of his power backstage and Kevin Nash was the head booker and controlled creative of WCW until Vince Russo in 1999.
@@EclipseMints08 "Years" later? Austin was fired in June 1995 and one year later he was already King of the Ring and his rise to super stardom was beginning.
Fun fact: Bankrupt Bischoff never made any money. As he even admitted on his own podcast, what he did was shove money from one year to the next. Otherwise he simply always lied, mostly because he had no clue what EBITDA is. So for example he claimed in 1995 WCW made a profit, in reality, they lost over 9 million dollars, because Bankrupt Bischoff always spews out the financial number before EBITDA is added. 9,6 million dollar lost in 1999. 64 million dollars lost in 2000 (despite Electronic Arts paying them 10 million dollars for the video game rights!)
The small profits WCW made in 1997 and 1998 were miniscule compared to the massive losses Bischoff put onto Turner with all of his idiotic bullshit ideas like the insane entrance for Glacier, Kiss and the Demon, Road Wild and countless other stupid ideas.
@@EclipseMints08 yeah that helped how ?
WWE did what bischoff did . Only thing is they worked with new talent while bischoff was still doing his boy band now