Another of the compare and contrast videos. Love these, thank you. Some weeks ago you inspired me to buy a .270 Winchester M70, pre-64, now you inspire me to sell off my .270 Tikka T3 Hunter. When you show it here in contrast to older, more robust models my T3 looks kinda puny.
Hi John, Pre-64 .270 : complete classic - good buy; sorry about the T3 - they sure do shoot but my goodness - I shouldn't have taken mine apart and looked so carefully - not much to them. Still, one of the most successful rifles...
In my opinion the Tikkas are the best price:performance rifles on the market out there right now. I recently puchased a Tikka T3 in .25-06 NIB from my LGS that had it for several years for $349. I put a Spuhr mount and Nightforce SHV scope and it's my go-to long ranged hog hunting rifle. Though the modern bolt action market is full of incredibly accurate rifles, you'll be hard pressed to beat Finnish quality. Older Tikkas are incredibly well made guns as well.
Thank you for your videos. I wanted to add a review for the comments. I have hunted for about 3 years with a Tikka T3 Lite .308. I mainly stalk through rough terrain for long periods (subjective, Lol) of time; hunting wild hogs and deer. I bought this model as a brush gun due to the light weight, accuracy, smooth action (for multiple follow up shots on big game), and durable stock. One of the best rifles I've ever owned on performance. Very reliable and highly accurate (sub-MOA out of box at all temps). I've taken a few falls over brush and into ditches and my buddy slung it off of a truck once. No functional problems, it took the beatings (my Leupold scope did too!). It's a delight to carry due to its balance and light weight. I hit exactly where I wanted on every animal including numerous running head shots (credit to the rifle and Leupold scope). Fit and finish is as cheap as it looks. The magazine is cheap plastic but works well (I need detachable because I hunt on a lot on a military base where I have to unload the rifle quickly when crossing roads due to the regulations) The stock has taken the beatings well, but the bluing is bad and started wearing immediately. It's still protective but looks bad. But that's why it's my brush gun. I wouldn't dare carry a fine Sako or comparable into the places I carry my Tikka. Only repair I've made was when I managed to knock the factory butt pad off sliding/falling down a ravine at night. It was cheap and easy to replace. If hunting in thickets and the like, it's PERFECT and reliable; a grunt brush/truck gun. One to protect to pass onto your grand kids? nope. It's purely for slinging rounds down range accurately while knocking around in the woods.
That is a really useful and truthful review of your rifle and the uses you have for it Chadwick! I hope plenty of people read your note. You have some fantastic hunting happening that many would love to have - and you have a rifle to match. Your experiences validate the excellence of the T3. Thank you so much!
This has become by far my favorite RUclips gun channel bar none! Today I saw a Tikka Mod 55 Continental (heavy barrel) in 22/250 for sale and I ummed and arghed over it for far too long. It sold in 10 minutes! This was also the first 22/250 which I had previously bought back in 1985. Thanks you for sharing once again.
my pops got a m55, old rifle but remarkably accurate, but that is not even the craziest. the crazy part is that it shoots several types of bullets and powders and powder weights into very much the same POI, so little difference that sight adjustments are miniscule, so small difference in groups when doing load developments that it is hard to choose, he even took at tumble this winter, landed on his back and had the rifle on his back. nothing shifted, tikka and leupold solid quality! I shoot a schultz and larsen and I dare say it shoots better groups (Or I am a better shoot) but the POI is way of between bullets/powder weights
That is so interesting. One thing is for sure - the Tikka 55 and 65 are brilliant rifles and your Dad knew what he was doing. Schultz & Larsen rifles are poetry in steel. The Tikkas are tanks. Tanks.
Fun fact the tikki m55 rifle chambered in .22-250 was used by Australian special forces (S.A.S.R - special air service regiment). It was used for counter Terrorism as the .22-250 has a much low chance of Ricochet thus reducing the risk to bystanders
Hey! Unknown Australian - I just saw one; had a camo stock and the seller wanted a lot. I'll have a closer look. Thanks for writing. Oh and - interesting election outcome you just had! I like what Morrison said : "We are an amazing country of amazing people. God bless Australia." That you are!
I purchased a t3 in 308 in the spring of '18 because my son's lsa55 is such an amazing rifle. I won't be able to speak of the durability yet. The stock is a pretty random plastic in camo. The barrel is a fluted matte black. I got it strictly for deer hunting. It's amazingly light and quick handling. I think tikka actions are one of the quickest and slickest out there right now. Mine has been very accurate which you would expect in modern rifles. It was so fast that I didn't realize I had shot 3 rounds in an adrenaline pumped moment as I shot 2 deer this fall. I wanted a knock around rifle that would shoot and that's what I got.
I own an LSA-55 in 308 and it is by far better made than most guns made today. The gun is very accurate and I have taken many deer with it. I will pass it on to my grandson one day.
Hi Mark R - far better for sure - a fine, fine rifle. Bolt handle is not brazed or welded - everything is as it should be. Of course, it was too good to continue being made - so it was discontinued.
Tikka T3's are now 15 years in use around the world, in the hottest and coldest climates. Indeed, Sako can be given credit for creating a simplified, consistent modern bolt action that is affordable. Problem spots ? Perhaps the bolt stop can be seen as fragile, when excited folks in a precision rifle tournament yank hard and crack them. The piece is what makes the different caliber/bolt strike length possible and it is all bit a simple pin on pivot. Besides that ... ?? Haven't heard much.
I never knew there was a Tikka before the T3. And the cheapness you point out is the reason I never could get myself to buy one. Now if the 65 or 55 was still made I would take a long hard look at those. Great video. Thanks.
The T3 is EXTREMELY similar to the Savage Axis. Hopfully you don't mind all my comments. Not sure which came out first. The Axis/Edge, or the T3? Both are a "one size fits all", all Axis rifles are long action, the difference lies in the length of the trigger guard to fit the larger or smaller magazines. I see tikka just adjusted the magazine, they both also have the recoil lug embeded into the stock, and a matching groove on the action. Interesting. Great video as usual!
They are somewhat similar at best. The savage has unique features like the barrel nut, accu trigger and floating bolt head. The tikka has none of these features and they are closer to a Remington 700 than a Savage.
Did I hear you correctly, in stating that you spun a T3 barrel on to the M65 action, around the 2:30 mark? If so, I have a 3006 m65 deluxe that is cut down to 19" (result of a bulge) and a spare t3x/t3 barrel in 6.5cm. The thread count will match up???
I there - yes please take to any smith. The only thing is the headspace - which may work out timing wise so the barrel markings are in the right place - but maybe not. Headspace is more important then barrel marking though so your smith should just turn in and sometimes the markings are in the barrel channel if you understand me.
Sir , I have a 30 plus year old M65 Sporter with 20inch barrel, .270 win. I purchased it pre owned but little used. I have fired over a thousand rounds of hand loaded ammo through it and taken many deer. Yesterday I was at the range testing Barnes 130gr TTSX bullets and achieved a half in group at 100 metres. This is typical for my rifle. Excellent quality, fabulous accuracy, easy to feed the magazine while in place in the rifle. Great quality oiled stock with cheek piece and palm swell. Handles like a dream. What’s not to like? Thanks for the insight on the different models. I’ll not be trading mine in any time soon.
Thanks for sharing your Tikka M65 experience Paul - they are incredible and remain one of the very best. I'm glad you kept yours - many went to the T3 - which is not the same - even if it is a fine rifle as well.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns It was my first rifle and possibly my most accurate, including .222Rem , REM 700. I love my 3 Ruger No1s buy Tikka would’ve last to go.
I acquired a m658 in 7 rem mag a year ago and just trying to gather some info on what I have?! It is a beautiful rifle if not a little on the heavy side. It would appear to have been made in the late 80's or early 90's and be closer to the 65 model than the newer t3. If you have any thoughts on the model m658, I would like to hear the +/-'s
Great buy; I can't think of any negatives. I own one still. Some people believe they preserve the best of the 65 while moving toward the modernity of the T3. Not a bad summary. Hard to find as most people don't sell and not that many were made. Hope this helps.
I have both the T3 and 65, and never knew the 55 even existed. The wood on my 65 is quite different, however, and I was wondering if you could help shed some light on what I have. I purchased mine used but unfired 27 years ago. I'm guessing that my 65 is likely a more premium line, but maybe it's just newer, or older for that matter. It has a pronounced cheek piece, and a rosewood fore end and grip cap. It also has a matte finish. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hi Mike - Thanks for the vote of confidence. I think I made a video of the T3 or partly the T3 and other Tikkas and mention the T3X. For sure I can say they T3X is excellent. I've seen them in action at the range and they are everything the T3 was and more. The larger ejection port is a good idea and there are improvements to the stock and recoil pad - the Lite is even better. I think you'll like the rifle very much if you do buy one. I would. I'm sorry I don't have one yet. As soon as I get on here - I'll make a video. All the best.
I have an M55 action & stock I've purchased that did not come with a barrel. You mention you took a T3 barrel and put it on the M55. I believe the threading, etc is the same between both rifles, but you can confirm this? Are the timing / head space roughly the same, or what modifications and difficulties did you have to deal with in this process? Was there any required machining you did or had to have done to complete this? I'm very interested in the complete process as there is very little information I've been able to find. Thank you
Hi Emerson - The barrel lettering didn't line up but otherwise it is a fairly straightforward project. The 55 barrel is a routine removal and threading on the T3 is the same. As you know, headspace is the priority and I'm sure you have the go and no go gauges. If anything complicated happens - a gunsmith can easily do the job. I've done this a few times, and now take such projects to the smith - who seems to have it done in no time. I don't think there has been a change in the threading; maybe on the T3X - but I doubt it. Hope this helps.
I understand the cost of making "excellent bolt rifles" but I feel sorry seeing great manufactures abandoned making real quality rifles. I own a tikka M55 in 308 and there is no comparison to Tikka T3... Unfortunately the T3 is way below in quality for the price.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns that's true!! And a RUclips channel like yours help us a lot to learn and find real gems in the gun trade. Thank you a lot for your service. Cheers from Europe.
Can you do a video on older sako's, there is a lot of debate over the barrels marked Bofors, I'll include a couple threads with relevant discussions. As far as I know the type of steel used was the same even after Bofors got them to remove them stamp via legal action. That being said pre 72 Sako's are regarded as highly as pre 64 winchesters. Garcia and later Stoeger took over US importation rights and demanded higher production number and thus quality suffered as a result. It's also hypothesized that barrel manufacture methods switched to hammer forged from cut rifled and thus this was the reason the pre 72's were so accurate, but also that the Bofors steel was simply a marketing gimmick all along. Either way I would love to hear what you have to say and if you can dig anything up on the subject. sakocollectors.com/forum/threads/what-about-bofors-barrels.4522/ www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/1534875/Re:_What_is_Bofors_Steel?
Hello - I'll do some digging - sounds like you know what there is to be known though. I do believe Bofors steel is excellent (as everyone seems to know) with a particular resistance to (heat) erosion. The method of rifling is less critical for a hunting rifle. It is unlikely that Sako switched to an inferior steel and I have not heard of Sako's - newer or older that did not shoot; of course there are always exceptions - I just have not heard of them.
So after reading as much as I could on forums which apparently is the only place I could find much info. It's funny how even it the age of the internet we have to go by word of mouth and what one person knows via first hand accounts for some info. Apparently their was some legal stuff in 68 that led to Sako no longer using the Bofors name, but did continue using their steel until 74. After this date Sako had to say something to clear up the question of what happened to the bofors Barrels? It was well known at the time that they were still using Bofors steel, so when they stopped the real question would have been why? So instead of saying because it was to costly and of a much higher quality than whatever they switched to, they just ended up saying it was a marketing ploy all along and basically we never used Bofors steel. I mean they didn't want to lie and say it was crap and that's why we stopped. I'm speculating based on what other people have said and that's only hear say, so it really comes down to wether these people who claim to have known Sako employees and even worked for them as well... I think the best way to know for sure is to buy a Bofors era Sako and just shoot the thing and compare it to everything else. I mean you've probably got a few of them and would know better than most, do they overheat like other barrels? Either way, they are as accurate as can possibly be and that's all that matters!!@@UnitedStatesOfGuns
Ya, not much to the T3's. But I gotta say that my T3 ss in 270wsm, is tack driver. I never even tried to handload with it. It shoots cheap Federal Blue box and Fusion in cloverleafs. And no problems feeding a short mag at all. I did put a titanium recoil lug in it, instead of that aluminum crap. As that will after time in high recoil rifles start to deform. Light, accurate, but ya, not much to them. But for 600$ Canadian 2 years ago, still probably the best bang per buck. Definitely want to get a hold of a 65 or 55 if I can find them. I find Tikka and Sako are just great rifles. Everyone I've ever owned shoots lights out. I'm easy to please with an accurate rifle. :)
On another note, I'd be interested to hear what you think the best current production hunting rifle is? Is it still the Winchester M70 in its current itteration?
The T3x super light I have is my favorite hunting rifle. Smoothest bolt I have ever felt with the stainless and shoots great. The T3x is a great improvement on the T3.
Thanks for this. I have not had a chance to looks at the T3X in detail; glad that it is a major improvement. The T3 was already so fine - making it even better must have been an exercise in fine details; save for the more open port change. I hope to get one soon.
The superlight version is only sold by Cabela's and sportsman's Warehouse. Shot 2 elk with mine this year. Have you reviewed a Bergara? I had a Bergara hmr loved the action and trigger but sold it for a significant loss due to accuracy issues.
Tikka 55/65s are made by Oy Tikkakoski Ab. Sako bought Tikkakoski 1983. Tikkakoski's barrels are cut rifled, current Tikkas have cold hammered barrels. Tikkakoski made e.g. Suomi machine guns and sewing machines.
There seems to be a sad and common thread manufacturers like Winchester, Colt, Remington, Ruger, CZ, Tikka, Sako, just about any name not Krieghoff(which most of us can't afford) has at one point in the past had a very great product or two or more. Some still make high end models but the entry levels models now comin up are just plain sad looking to me. The list goes add nauseum lots of names I forgot.
I love my Tikka t3x stainless in 243. Got it used for $475. New its about $750. Shoots well, probably Europe's Remington 700 in terms of popularity. Thanks
The 700 is still a popular rifle regardless of its quality. Like the Tikka is a popular rifle in lots of Europe. I don't own a 700 but I've shot one a new one, the Tikka's action is a lot smoother. I think Tikka is superior in quality and aesthetics to the 700. Personal opinion
Hi DrBreeze - I just handled an 85 today! I am putting together a video on the Tikka 55, Sako L579 and I wanted an 85 to be on the table as well. I didn't succeed on getting the 85 but I must say - an extremely well made action and superb rifle overall; and of course - the one piece bolt.
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Another of the compare and contrast videos. Love these, thank you.
Some weeks ago you inspired me to buy a .270 Winchester M70, pre-64, now you inspire me to sell off my .270 Tikka T3 Hunter. When you show it here in contrast to older, more robust models my T3 looks kinda puny.
Hi John, Pre-64 .270 : complete classic - good buy; sorry about the T3 - they sure do shoot but my goodness - I shouldn't have taken mine apart and looked so carefully - not much to them. Still, one of the most successful rifles...
In my opinion the Tikkas are the best price:performance rifles on the market out there right now. I recently puchased a Tikka T3 in .25-06 NIB from my LGS that had it for several years for $349. I put a Spuhr mount and Nightforce SHV scope and it's my go-to long ranged hog hunting rifle. Though the modern bolt action market is full of incredibly accurate rifles, you'll be hard pressed to beat Finnish quality. Older Tikkas are incredibly well made guns as well.
It is true - the T3 is so accurate; I have 2. Can't argue with something that works - and works so well.
Thank you for your videos. I wanted to add a review for the comments. I have hunted for about 3 years with a Tikka T3 Lite .308. I mainly stalk through rough terrain for long periods (subjective, Lol) of time; hunting wild hogs and deer. I bought this model as a brush gun due to the light weight, accuracy, smooth action (for multiple follow up shots on big game), and durable stock. One of the best rifles I've ever owned on performance. Very reliable and highly accurate (sub-MOA out of box at all temps). I've taken a few falls over brush and into ditches and my buddy slung it off of a truck once. No functional problems, it took the beatings (my Leupold scope did too!). It's a delight to carry due to its balance and light weight. I hit exactly where I wanted on every animal including numerous running head shots (credit to the rifle and Leupold scope). Fit and finish is as cheap as it looks. The magazine is cheap plastic but works well (I need detachable because I hunt on a lot on a military base where I have to unload the rifle quickly when crossing roads due to the regulations) The stock has taken the beatings well, but the bluing is bad and started wearing immediately. It's still protective but looks bad. But that's why it's my brush gun. I wouldn't dare carry a fine Sako or comparable into the places I carry my Tikka. Only repair I've made was when I managed to knock the factory butt pad off sliding/falling down a ravine at night. It was cheap and easy to replace. If hunting in thickets and the like, it's PERFECT and reliable; a grunt brush/truck gun. One to protect to pass onto your grand kids? nope. It's purely for slinging rounds down range accurately while knocking around in the woods.
That is a really useful and truthful review of your rifle and the uses you have for it Chadwick! I hope plenty of people read your note. You have some fantastic hunting happening that many would love to have - and you have a rifle to match. Your experiences validate the excellence of the T3. Thank you so much!
This has become by far my favorite RUclips gun channel bar none! Today I saw a Tikka Mod 55 Continental (heavy barrel) in 22/250 for sale and I ummed and arghed over it for far too long. It sold in 10 minutes! This was also the first 22/250 which I had previously bought back in 1985. Thanks you for sharing once again.
Thank you so much! That Continental is a brilliant model - even if not light.
my pops got a m55, old rifle but remarkably accurate, but that is not even the craziest. the crazy part is that it shoots several types of bullets and powders and powder weights into very much the same POI, so little difference that sight adjustments are miniscule, so small difference in groups when doing load developments that it is hard to choose, he even took at tumble this winter, landed on his back and had the rifle on his back. nothing shifted, tikka and leupold solid quality!
I shoot a schultz and larsen and I dare say it shoots better groups (Or I am a better shoot) but the POI is way of between bullets/powder weights
That is so interesting. One thing is for sure - the Tikka 55 and 65 are brilliant rifles and your Dad knew what he was doing. Schultz & Larsen rifles are poetry in steel. The Tikkas are tanks. Tanks.
Fun fact the tikki m55 rifle chambered in .22-250 was used by Australian special forces (S.A.S.R - special air service regiment). It was used for counter Terrorism as the .22-250 has a much low chance of Ricochet thus reducing the risk to bystanders
Hey! Unknown Australian - I just saw one; had a camo stock and the seller wanted a lot. I'll have a closer look. Thanks for writing. Oh and - interesting election outcome you just had! I like what Morrison said : "We are an amazing country of amazing people. God bless Australia."
That you are!
Great insight. Knew a little about the T3, but nothing about the 55 or 65. Something new to hunt down. :-)
Hi Rick, it is an interesting thing to me, how I study these things. Yet I do, and somehow there is meaning in it. Thank you Rick.
Loved your comparison of the one size fits all and shoe makers. :)
The M65 puts meat on our table every autumn. It will outlast me for sure.
I purchased a t3 in 308 in the spring of '18 because my son's lsa55 is such an amazing rifle. I won't be able to speak of the durability yet. The stock is a pretty random plastic in camo. The barrel is a fluted matte black. I got it strictly for deer hunting. It's amazingly light and quick handling. I think tikka actions are one of the quickest and slickest out there right now. Mine has been very accurate which you would expect in modern rifles. It was so fast that I didn't realize I had shot 3 rounds in an adrenaline pumped moment as I shot 2 deer this fall. I wanted a knock around rifle that would shoot and that's what I got.
I’ve two m595’s barrelled in 243 & 22-250, they are absolutely brilliant rifles.
"Absolutely brilliant" - I agree - so fine!
Thank you very much. The exact info I was looking for !!
I own an LSA-55 in 308 and it is by far better made than most guns made today. The gun is very accurate and I have taken many deer with it. I will pass it on to my grandson one day.
Hi Mark R - far better for sure - a fine, fine rifle. Bolt handle is not brazed or welded - everything is as it should be. Of course, it was too good to continue being made - so it was discontinued.
Great revue again, nothing to touch tikka for the money in my humble opinion.regards from over the pond.
Something about Finland - they know guns and how to make them and make them shoot - one way or another.
USOG They certainly put it up those Russian invaders!!!.
Regards Gerald.
Great review, thank you!
Tikka T3's are now 15 years in use around the world, in the hottest and coldest climates. Indeed, Sako can be given credit for creating a simplified, consistent modern bolt action that is affordable. Problem spots ? Perhaps the bolt stop can be seen as fragile, when excited folks in a precision rifle tournament yank hard and crack them. The piece is what makes the different caliber/bolt strike length possible and it is all bit a simple pin on pivot.
Besides that ... ?? Haven't heard much.
You're right stephane - not much one can say that is bad about them. They knew what they were doing. So slick and quick and at first a real bargain.
I never knew there was a Tikka before the T3. And the cheapness you point out is the reason I never could get myself to buy one. Now if the 65 or 55 was still made I would take a long hard look at those. Great video. Thanks.
The T3 is EXTREMELY similar to the Savage Axis. Hopfully you don't mind all my comments. Not sure which came out first. The Axis/Edge, or the T3? Both are a "one size fits all", all Axis rifles are long action, the difference lies in the length of the trigger guard to fit the larger or smaller magazines. I see tikka just adjusted the magazine, they both also have the recoil lug embeded into the stock, and a matching groove on the action. Interesting. Great video as usual!
Thanks Dan - keep writing; I like hearing from you. The Tikka was first - not that, that means best. I'll review the Axis soon. Best to you.
They are somewhat similar at best. The savage has unique features like the barrel nut, accu trigger and floating bolt head. The tikka has none of these features and they are closer to a Remington 700 than a Savage.
I have both a T3 and a m55 and the t3 is so nice to shoot compered to the m55.
Did I hear you correctly, in stating that you spun a T3 barrel on to the M65 action, around the 2:30 mark?
If so, I have a 3006 m65 deluxe that is cut down to 19" (result of a bulge) and a spare t3x/t3 barrel in 6.5cm. The thread count will match up???
I there - yes please take to any smith. The only thing is the headspace - which may work out timing wise so the barrel markings are in the right place - but maybe not. Headspace is more important then barrel marking though so your smith should just turn in and sometimes the markings are in the barrel channel if you understand me.
Sir , I have a 30 plus year old M65 Sporter with 20inch barrel, .270 win. I purchased it pre owned but little used. I have fired over a thousand rounds of hand loaded ammo through it and taken many deer. Yesterday I was at the range testing Barnes 130gr TTSX bullets and achieved a half in group at 100 metres. This is typical for my rifle. Excellent quality, fabulous accuracy, easy to feed the magazine while in place in the rifle. Great quality oiled stock with cheek piece and palm swell. Handles like a dream. What’s not to like? Thanks for the insight on the different models. I’ll not be trading mine in any time soon.
Thanks for sharing your Tikka M65 experience Paul - they are incredible and remain one of the very best. I'm glad you kept yours - many went to the T3 - which is not the same - even if it is a fine rifle as well.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns It was my first rifle and possibly my most accurate, including .222Rem , REM 700. I love my 3 Ruger No1s buy Tikka would’ve last to go.
I acquired a m658 in 7 rem mag a year ago and just trying to gather some info on what I have?! It is a beautiful rifle if not a little on the heavy side. It would appear to have been made in the late 80's or early 90's and be closer to the 65 model than the newer t3. If you have any thoughts on the model m658, I would like to hear the +/-'s
Great buy; I can't think of any negatives. I own one still. Some people believe they preserve the best of the 65 while moving toward the modernity of the T3. Not a bad summary. Hard to find as most people don't sell and not that many were made. Hope this helps.
I just want to say your videos are great to watch.have you ever taken a video of your complete collection of rifles.
Hi Rumble, Thanks for the good words. I've saving up for a wide angle lens to film the whole collection - just kidding - I may try soon.
I have both the T3 and 65, and never knew the 55 even existed. The wood on my 65 is quite different, however, and I was wondering if you could help shed some light on what I have. I purchased mine used but unfired 27 years ago. I'm guessing that my 65 is likely a more premium line, but maybe it's just newer, or older for that matter. It has a pronounced cheek piece, and a rosewood fore end and grip cap. It also has a matte finish. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hi Jim, You're a lucky man. You have the 65 Deluxe - a beautiful rifle and not very common these days.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thanks for clearing that up for me.
I'm so glad I found your channel! You're the best! How many weapons do you have?
Probably 200 give or take. I trade though and sometimes I give away some.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Let me buy a pre 64 W70. Hard to get here in Sweden..
so tikka lsa-55 is best?
When we getting the t3x overview? Looking to purchase a stainless t3x lite in .308 and you’re the only guy I trust.
Hi Mike - Thanks for the vote of confidence. I think I made a video of the T3 or partly the T3 and other Tikkas and mention the T3X. For sure I can say they T3X is excellent. I've seen them in action at the range and they are everything the T3 was and more. The larger ejection port is a good idea and there are improvements to the stock and recoil pad - the Lite is even better. I think you'll like the rifle very much if you do buy one. I would. I'm sorry I don't have one yet. As soon as I get on here - I'll make a video. All the best.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I appreciate the response! I think us viewers sometimes forget that you personally purchase these firearms. I enjoy your channel!
I also have a M695 300 win mag that I can’t get to group. Good to know I can rebarrel with a T3. What stock would you recommend? Thank you
I have an M55 action & stock I've purchased that did not come with a barrel. You mention you took a T3 barrel and put it on the M55. I believe the threading, etc is the same between both rifles, but you can confirm this? Are the timing / head space roughly the same, or what modifications and difficulties did you have to deal with in this process? Was there any required machining you did or had to have done to complete this? I'm very interested in the complete process as there is very little information I've been able to find. Thank you
Hi Emerson - The barrel lettering didn't line up but otherwise it is a fairly straightforward project. The 55 barrel is a routine removal and threading on the T3 is the same. As you know, headspace is the priority and I'm sure you have the go and no go gauges. If anything complicated happens - a gunsmith can easily do the job. I've done this a few times, and now take such projects to the smith - who seems to have it done in no time. I don't think there has been a change in the threading; maybe on the T3X - but I doubt it. Hope this helps.
Excellent
Just got a cherry M695 on trade. Looks like a cross between the 65 and the T3
Those are not easy to find in nice shape - most went hunting.
What do you think its approximate value would be in 7mm Rem Mag? Not a deluxe but wood and finish is immaculate.
I understand the cost of making "excellent bolt rifles" but I feel sorry seeing great manufactures abandoned making real quality rifles. I own a tikka M55 in 308 and there is no comparison to Tikka T3... Unfortunately the T3 is way below in quality for the price.
I agree - something about margins or costs or tooling and then the best are gone. Thankfully there is the used gun market.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns that's true!!
And a RUclips channel like yours help us a lot to learn and find real gems in the gun trade.
Thank you a lot for your service.
Cheers from Europe.
Can you do a video on older sako's, there is a lot of debate over the barrels marked Bofors, I'll include a couple threads with relevant discussions. As far as I know the type of steel used was the same even after Bofors got them to remove them stamp via legal action. That being said pre 72 Sako's are regarded as highly as pre 64 winchesters. Garcia and later Stoeger took over US importation rights and demanded higher production number and thus quality suffered as a result. It's also hypothesized that barrel manufacture methods switched to hammer forged from cut rifled and thus this was the reason the pre 72's were so accurate, but also that the Bofors steel was simply a marketing gimmick all along. Either way I would love to hear what you have to say and if you can dig anything up on the subject.
sakocollectors.com/forum/threads/what-about-bofors-barrels.4522/
www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/1534875/Re:_What_is_Bofors_Steel?
Hello - I'll do some digging - sounds like you know what there is to be known though. I do believe Bofors steel is excellent (as everyone seems to know) with a particular resistance to (heat) erosion. The method of rifling is less critical for a hunting rifle. It is unlikely that Sako switched to an inferior steel and I have not heard of Sako's - newer or older that did not shoot; of course there are always exceptions - I just have not heard of them.
So after reading as much as I could on forums which apparently is the only place I could find much info. It's funny how even it the age of the internet we have to go by word of mouth and what one person knows via first hand accounts for some info. Apparently their was some legal stuff in 68 that led to Sako no longer using the Bofors name, but did continue using their steel until 74. After this date Sako had to say something to clear up the question of what happened to the bofors Barrels? It was well known at the time that they were still using Bofors steel, so when they stopped the real question would have been why? So instead of saying because it was to costly and of a much higher quality than whatever they switched to, they just ended up saying it was a marketing ploy all along and basically we never used Bofors steel. I mean they didn't want to lie and say it was crap and that's why we stopped. I'm speculating based on what other people have said and that's only hear say, so it really comes down to wether these people who claim to have known Sako employees and even worked for them as well... I think the best way to know for sure is to buy a Bofors era Sako and just shoot the thing and compare it to everything else. I mean you've probably got a few of them and would know better than most, do they overheat like other barrels? Either way, they are as accurate as can possibly be and that's all that matters!!@@UnitedStatesOfGuns
I bought your M65 and shot a moose and a black bear. All one shot kill. Nice Gun for a good price.
That's just great! Most 65s love to go hunting. Someone also knows how to shoot 👍
Ya, not much to the T3's. But I gotta say that my T3 ss in 270wsm, is tack driver. I never even tried to handload with it. It shoots cheap Federal Blue box and Fusion in cloverleafs. And no problems feeding a short mag at all. I did put a titanium recoil lug in it, instead of that aluminum crap. As that will after time in high recoil rifles start to deform. Light, accurate, but ya, not much to them. But for 600$ Canadian 2 years ago, still probably the best bang per buck.
Definitely want to get a hold of a 65 or 55 if I can find them. I find Tikka and Sako are just great rifles. Everyone I've ever owned shoots lights out. I'm easy to please with an accurate rifle. :)
Hey, just wondering if the T3x will fit into a M55 stock? Thanks
I don't think so. Quite different.
Thanks
"but I don't drive over my magazines with vehicles.. usually... so I don't know.. but anyway.." :D
My Ithaca LSA 65 30/06 is amazingly accurate with an unbelievable factory trigger! Not a fan of the new Tikkas but the M 595, 695, are wonderful.
Any chance of a Sako 85 video? Would like to know what you think of the Sako "Controlled Feed" compared to Mauser controlled feed
Hi Bryce - As soon as I can get my hands on an 85 I'll make the video. Thanks for the suggestion.
On another note, I'd be interested to hear what you think the best current production hunting rifle is? Is it still the Winchester M70 in its current itteration?
Good info for people looking for a Tikka.
Controlled Feed or Push Feed?
The T3x super light I have is my favorite hunting rifle. Smoothest bolt I have ever felt with the stainless and shoots great. The T3x is a great improvement on the T3.
Thanks for this. I have not had a chance to looks at the T3X in detail; glad that it is a major improvement. The T3 was already so fine - making it even better must have been an exercise in fine details; save for the more open port change. I hope to get one soon.
The superlight version is only sold by Cabela's and sportsman's Warehouse. Shot 2 elk with mine this year. Have you reviewed a Bergara? I had a Bergara hmr loved the action and trigger but sold it for a significant loss due to accuracy issues.
I have a tikka tac a1. And I am loving every moment i can take it out. It is super easy to use and wery presise
Tikka 55/65s are made by Oy Tikkakoski Ab. Sako bought Tikkakoski 1983. Tikkakoski's barrels are cut rifled, current Tikkas have cold hammered barrels. Tikkakoski made e.g. Suomi machine guns and sewing machines.
There seems to be a sad and common thread manufacturers like Winchester, Colt, Remington, Ruger, CZ, Tikka, Sako, just about any name not Krieghoff(which most of us can't afford) has at one point in the past had a very great product or two or more. Some still make high end models but the entry levels models now comin up are just plain sad looking to me. The list goes add nauseum lots of names I forgot.
Another great vid! I just got my M65 Deluxe in 30-06, more than pleased with my choice over the new generation Tikka models
So many guns...so little time and money!
I like the stainless finish better on the T3. The stocks are crappy but mine sits in a green B&C stock and it's a gorgeous rifle.
Great choice of stock!
I love my Tikka t3x stainless in 243. Got it used for $475. New its about $750. Shoots well, probably Europe's Remington 700 in terms of popularity. Thanks
what about quality.. im not sure iv ever seen something nice remington has made recently
The 700 is still a popular rifle regardless of its quality. Like the Tikka is a popular rifle in lots of Europe. I don't own a 700 but I've shot one a new one, the Tikka's action is a lot smoother. I think Tikka is superior in quality and aesthetics to the 700. Personal opinion
Well, you’ve talked me out of buying a T3. I guess I’ll have spend more and get a Sako 85.
Hi DrBreeze - I just handled an 85 today! I am putting together a video on the Tikka 55, Sako L579 and I wanted an 85 to be on the table as well. I didn't succeed on getting the 85 but I must say - an extremely well made action and superb rifle overall; and of course - the one piece bolt.
I'd say he's done you a favour.
The earlier Tikkas were much better made .
The t3 are made to a budget.
can u put m65 action on mdt xrs stock? and will current LA scope base work on m65? thx if u reply back
Hi ru - No luck on the mdt - T3 but not the 65; the scope base should work though.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thx u 4 answer. that's 2 bad. i would luv 2 put m65 on mdt xrs marrying new & old.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns what is the diff in inch betw sako long action vs tikka long action? and would any sakos work w mdt xrs?
I have an old Ithaca lsa 55, in 22-250.
how does that compare to the actual tikka 55? anyone know?
Hi Joe, They are the same except for minor cosmetic differences. The LSA 55 is a Tikka 55 but the LSA was marketed by Ithaca. Excellent rifles both.