DJ Gear - How to run WIRELESS audio to speakers (Wireless Mic Speaker system)
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- This is how you run wireless audio to speakers up to 1000 ft away!
This is the setup I used in this video
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This is the setup I used in this video
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Nice! Bought one today. Thanks man!
Been using Shure for our wireless speaker systems for years and never had a single drop out.
Rick, thanks for this outstanding video, a BIG help!
Perfect timing. And your info s was spot on. Gonna try this set up
Another great video. Thanks Rick
Glad RUclips recommended this video. I was using the same Alto system last night. Kept cutting out. Not because of the distance. The power cable is not shielded properly. And any little breeze and made it swing one way or another would block the signal
Rick is spot on here! YES!YES! scan as late as you can!! I have been using the Sennheiser G4 body packs for years. They rock! Pricey but you get what you pay for with that gear. Make sure any and all wireless other than your mics (etc) are on. Vendors/House gear included! Don't expect them to tell you what's running there. lol Then scan again if possible. Always try for the best line of site. Bodies absorb signal like a sponge. Signal will always be less once people are there. One wedding I got there super early and was fully setup everything running. Other venders started showing up. I noticed the videographer after he setup was using the same model Senn body packs I was and I could see his frequency on the main screen on the body pack. Nope, way too close to my freq, almost the exact same. My mic was on the groom. Has to work! I spoke to him and he scanned and saw his pack recommended a different bank than he was on at first. He changed banks. He thanked me and all's well! He had a digital recorder on the groom for post audio. I don't think he scanned when he setup. If we had stepped on each others freq that would of been bad. Don't depend on other vendors to rescan from their last gig! They will just use the last frequency that was locked in. With multiple G4 rec/transmitters you can create a wireless chain/bridge of outdoor speakers. One transmitter with multiple receivers for one. With in/outputs on powered speakers you can retransmit the signal on a different freg to keep going. lots of options. Test and enjoy :) Love the channel!
Say you have dual mics on a shure slxd 24 or equivalent system. Is it best practice to have them both on the same frequency, or should they be different? I ask because i always use the group scan and it sets both channels to the same. Havent had any issues yet.
If you want to use multiple receivers with the same lapel, you may have to adjust some settings. Some systems have a “pilot tone” as an extra verification between devices. If you don’t have the exact same model of devices, you may have to turn that off to make it work
Thanks for this!
Mic frequencies in the 600 range up to 616 MHz can still be used in certain areas, I live in an area where you can use them and I have no problems with the one in my inventory, All my newer mics are in the 400 & 500Mhz frequency range. Great video, I am going to purchase one of these systems.
This is great info!!! Maybe some ideas to play with.
1. Two mic transmitters on the mixer, one panned left and the other panned right, on the receiver you should be able to utilize each channel to make stereo audio.
2. A pad on the output of the mixer may be needed to prevent overdriving the wireless pack as most are looking for mic/instrument level and not line level.
I already have a bunch of Shure SLXD, they just released a beltpack sized receiver and it’s amazing 🙌🙌
Nice really enjoyed your vid
I do this with a Sennheiser and it works great. Finding a good frequency is key, no matter what brand you are using. Ben Stowe is a genius at this. Thanks to Pioneer (ugh Alpha Theta), all this will soon be included with some speakers, making life sooooo much easier. I hope it becomes common on all brands/size speakers.
Use a wireless in ear system, Shure PSM1000or similar would work best. This allows you to keep the receiver at control with your other mics and mixer. Connect the beltpack to the input on the speaker and you're all done.
• Rick, what I am doing is mounting the wireless receivers up on a T-bar commonly used for DJ lights, etc. The ten foot height seems to be optimal and helps prevent a lot of drop signal situations as you can imagine.
I leave mine on the table and set the reciever boxes on the back the speakers had 0 issues 200ft away full strength
Love this idea!
I do the same with my EW-DX and here is what I learned from my research
For the best wireless audio you want a
- true diversity system that can switch antennas to reduce dropouts
- A transmitter that can handle line level input (because you're sending music not a microphone)
EW-D EW-DX AT3000 QLX-D/SLX-D
Now the only downside is the big receiver unit that will be on the speaker and a potentially battery powered transmitter
There are a few systems with small receivers but they don't work as well
Alto Stealth/pro has poor range
IEM systems but they are not true diversity (potential drop outs)
Shure PSM1000 would be the best system to use however it has an MSRP of $5,000.
Now I've seen one cheaper system that might be able to do it but I haven't tried it yet because I had a bad experience with JTS in the past...However my mics weren't true diversity. If someone is willing to try and report back it is the JTS SPT-1R/SPT-1T System
Let me know what you guys think!
Couldnt have broken down the nerdy tech specs better myself. Wasnt gonna do it in the video cus its like way over 80% of peoples heads! Thanks for the breakdown
Look up the specs of this IEM, its what I use and its flawless. Way better to have the transmitter as a half-rack and the receiver as a body pack hooked to a speaker imo. Sennheiser ew IEM G4 Twin set
@@djresqvideomix this seems to be the unit everyone has had good luck with. Something I missed in my research was that the iem receiver uses "adaptive diversity" using the headphone cable as a 2nd antenna. I wonder if using the xlr cable in place allows the same functionality. I guess it's not true diversity but seems good enough for most djs. I'm hoping the update the iem line to digital like the ewd and then I'm going to get one
@@elliotchocano9374 totally agree. Lets meet again here when they do
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You can also do this same thing with a guitar wireless without need of mic receiver to transmitter switching capabilities. The small guitar belt unit is already the transmitter that takes 1/4" mono inputs from a mixer or "1/8 mono in like a headphone out. In this case the bigger tabletop receiver goes at the remote speaker. You can now get great digital low latency long range guitar wireless for $300-$500 .
I have used the Alto stealth in Hawaii when I do beach weddings 3 years now without a flaw!! for me if it ain't broke I ain't trying to fix it.
Same here. I’ve done big corp events where we need Multiple rooms with the same audio and it works flawlessly..
mine kept dropping out (I'm in L.A. ) i returned it
Great Video!! I don't know if you ever checked out the new versions of Alto Wireless system, but the MKII & Pro version is levels above the original one. You can scan for the perfect frequency now. So far I'm impressed with the performance, and I'm going to do a video in regards to it
I was just trying to find a video on ways to do this!!!
Man thanks for the video. I need to set up a PA system at a park and need to use wireless speakers. Hope i can hit you up if possible
Rick! I love this Hack! Cost effective and works so good!
dont be cheap in audio !
@@jasonlajuene2036 Coming from someone who buys behringer 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@wickedwaiata2939 We have Midas and QSC gear... so there you go. next PA will be Danley Sound Labs
you also can use in ear monitor sistems based on wireless words the same, you can mpove the body pack together with a speaker on aly place you want on batteries
The best is in ear wireless mics i use shure psm 300 but any good quality dual or single system will work a treat you should try it rick you won't be disappointed
Sennheiser G3/G4 is my system of choice for this. Through concrete walls, metal grids, multiple rooms, tons of bodies...no sweat. Super compact, battery powered, and easy.
For larger/more demanding applications a traditional diversity receiver is best, but I rarely need more than the packs.
Something to be aware of is if you are plugging into a stereo out and you are only able to do mono you may run into issues. Pull from a mono source or, even better, just make sure that you are pushing mono out of your DJ software in the first place.
Do you use the iem g4? Or the regular mic g4
@@elliotchocano9374 Mic. I tend to use the same speaker from the ceremony as a cocktail and wireless remote speaker, so merely swapping the packs around allows this in one seamless action.
They're readily available used, too, and are cross compatible with each other as long as you get the same band.
Yes Sir! that's what I use too. I picked up the AC power pack that snaps in like a battery pack and allows the trans/receiver to run on AC power with the speaker if it's powered. Super nice!
@@thetoolman5380 The $150 one from NLFX? If they made one that could plug into the back of the Everse8 I might consider it, but rechargeable batteries are cheap.
my GTD Audio wireless mics sound nice and have never failed on me.
If you had the Mackie Profxv3+ mixer you can bluetooth directly to the mixer so you don't even need that adapter. just the lapel and cable for the lapel
A friend of mine had to do this exact setup for a speaker at the other end of a venue. He used a sennheiser system. Speaking from experience, sennheiser is probably your best bet in Europe.
I had bad expriences with shure too 😂
Squad. I'm going to try it also. I get the tip from dj mojoe that have been doing it too, but I didn't try it yet.
Nice
Gotta try this with my Phenyx Mic 🎤
Gud job👍
told u this kid is a genious
LOL... some of us pros have been doing this for years now.
@@jasonlajuene2036 true that’s he said now entry level djs are barely finding out
You can try also with iem system
Another great vid. I'm looking forward to visiting NC for Dreamville Fest in a few weeks time. Are you playing anywhere during that weekend? I'm flying over from New Zealand.
Or any bars/clubs you'd recommend to check out.. ideally Rnb/Hiphop lol
No I have reduced my gigs to about 20 a year. But I am around doing the backend office work practically every day
You can use shure 1/2 waves on that?? Oh man i was about to return my AT 3000 because of those puny antennas. thank you!!
You should try the hollyland Lark Max
Rick, I do this setup as well. Could you post a link on this batter pack that plugs into an outlet giving unlimited power?
In description
Can you show how to setup multiple speakers with these?!! It would be super helpful
Have more reciver boxes and set to same freq thats it
Then from each box into each speaker?
@1Twisteddj yes!
I wonder how this compares to the Shure psm300
This works great but I'm wondering if just getting the SKAA transmitter and receiver would be a better option and also half the price of most wireless mic setups.
I use the Skaa dani transmitter with the skaa A-link plus hydrid transmitter/receivers one in each speaker... low latency.....very quick setup and all rechargeable....have ammoon guitar dongles 5.8hz as backup and also backup cables.
Not had any issues.... 1 year now
I stop saying to use skaa people thought I was a rep lol😂 being using it since 2020. When people see I’m using wireless they are always shocked Plus. Look how goofy and big that set up is
@@donaldccannon1 I’ve seen it used by other djs and they swear by it. I wonder it’s not used by more of us or recommended by other djs.
SKAA is 2.4 ghz which is wifi. Wifi is not a reliable source of wireless transmitting as it is a super competitive space.
Just buy alpha theta gear..lol..jk
I always learn from your videos. Keep it up
I have not had a problem with them.
WhT is the level you can put into a wireless mic transmitter? -10 / +4 as I guessing it's looking for a mic input not a line I put . Wouldn't want to push the input to hard and clip it.
Thanks
My bodypack might be different then some but I can put 0 db into it and it registers 0db on the input.
is there anyway to improve the latency typically found when using AAC?
Latency is similar to a wireless mic. Very minimal. We use this for side fills and other rooms and the delay is minimal very similar to what we need based on the distance. From the main speakers
Does anybody use the Xvive U3 wireless microphone transmitter? I bought one as a contingency for my LD handheld mic and to transmit XLR out off my mains to a side fill speaker. The Xvive operates in the gigahertz range (2.4 Ghz) and I haven't tested it in a room full of cell phones. I look for affordable options versus spending $900 on a wireless lapel system (Xvive is $200).
I am a rookie to wireless systems.
Can you tell me the Lapel mic - model that you show in your videos?
I do screen grabs but blurry.
Appreciated. Thanks!!!!
Full list in description
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Which is the bluetooth device used in the video
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do you notice a difference in sound quality using this setup vs doing traditional wired XLR?
Slightly when the distance gets very long. Mainly in the bass quality
Can you run the body pack to the headphones out on the yamaha mg06? Would that work? I run my sub off of monitor port and tops from the main left/right outs
Yeah that would work
@@DJRickWebcouldnt you also use the body pack at the speaker instead of receiver? Thinking it doesnt matter as long as you have 1 part connected to mixer, the other to the speaker.
No the body pack is a transmitter and the reciver box is a recivers the signal goes one way
Man I got it all working. Thank you rick daddy
Why not just use an in ear monitor set up so that the small pack is at the speaker?
IEM systems only use one antenna. By doing this we have true diversity with an A and B antenna on the reciever increasing reliability over distance. Also in the case of my mics I can setup a backup freq as well that if I were to run into issues i simply click a button on the bodypack and bang we are switched over to a backup frequency.
@DJRickWeb Thanks Rick. I use the same mic, but never thought of reversing it with a body pack. GREAT INFO. 👍
What little bluetooth box are you using?
Random one we got last minute on amazon for a corporate gig that need a bluetooth input lol
If you would get those Directional antennas you can probably go even further
The Shure Shark fin :) cool looking
@@thetoolman5380 Yeah, I love the look of those too
What about the alpha theta speakers?
They work. Not this far though
Have you tried SKAA wireless??
Terrible
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Yo Rick do u all have Wireless Mics for Djing where I could plug into mic input and the headset would have a Mic on one side coming over to yo mouth if u know what I’m saying?
Headset mics. Yes any bodypack you can plug on into it
However, you still have to have batteries to power up the amps in the speakers!!! Also, where can you get a wireless transmitter powerful enough to send a signal through a large venue that has trees and buildings!!??
This was just an example. Typically we run hard power to everything. We use this to run audio throughout venues. If you need to go further you can chain this system. So at 300ft take the output for the reciever and put that into another transmitter to then push the signal further
@@DJRickWeb Thanks for sharing this information, will give that a try
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Would an IEM system work as well for this application?
Not as good but will work to a degree
Thank you! I don’t do nearly the amount of gigs as you do, but look forward to your review as it can help out!
So the body pack transmits sound from bluetooth? I don’t understand how this works. Thank you
No I was bluetoothing to the yamaha mixer. Because no device has a 3.5 mm anymore. The wireless mic was doing the transmitting and receiving
@@DJRickWeb got it. Where was music coming from? You mentioned bluetooth? What device did you use for that? Thank you
Little amazon bluetooth audio receiver.
wont it be better to use a wireless in ear set up instead?
Nope. True uhf diversity is the best form of signal out there
Use IEM Trans out to Linear amp to 1000 MW and get a SOLID no drop signal. $$$$$$$$$
Audio-Technica make wireless IEM systems that you can sync together so the lapel transmitter will be replaced with an IEM transmitter so you can get a more powerful signal to your receiver so yea.
Do what you want with this information ok I am not responsible for anything you are doing this at your own risk.
I had to say that just to cover my but :)
The iem systems are more convenient but they actually are less reliable than using the setup I showed. The is because iem is not a true diversity with dual antennas.
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SKAA is faster and more reliable because it’s on its own frequency. Streetheart and Dani. Plug in and play! More Simple than this long winded video. Plus those label batteries run out fast.
Hey. Noticed I stop saying to use skaa. People gonna start thinking your a rep lol😂
I second SKAA.
SKAA operates on 2.4 ghz which in the pro industry is the most unreliable frequency range. Its such a competitive freq chunk that it is very unreliable. This method I show is what everyone in the touring or corprate AV space is doing. And see link to the AA battery plug in wall adapter that you use to not need batteries.
@donaldccannon1 I don’t mind being an unofficial representative. Their stuff works and works fast and easy!
Why don't you use the in ear system?..
Then you don't have to be in reverse....
I may be wrong, but I don’t think you can have more than 1 receiver.
You can. The transmitter doesnt like lock into a reciever. It sends a signal out to whatever is listening and any reciever on the same freq picks up the signal.
I just ran an event last weekend with 6 receivers running off of one transmitter. Yes, you absolutely can. It's merely broadcasting a signal on that frequency. Any device tuned to that frequency may receive it.
Got dam bro what event were you doing that you needed 6 receievers lol?
Events. I have already done multiple with 6. Full room has 2. Than 2 more in side rooms or entry ways to have complete audio threwout
@@DJRickWeb Yup. Mine was a throw in the main room, side room, back room, VIP room, dining room, and bar. Pretty widespread, but Senny's didn't even blink (packs only)...even through a concrete wall.
Been doing this for years ruclips.net/video/-nVaKou8khQ/видео.html The one thing that I didn't like with this current set up is worrying about peaking at the transmitter. I've switched to an IEM set up which works really well but, I did have to add a headphone amplifier to get additional gain on the receiver side
Oh, one other thing that you can do to extend the range is to add an directional fin antenna
• Excellent, DJ Rick Webb, thank you for this and for all of your videos.
What about getting sound outdoors to all four sides of the building?
This is DJ Dennis James "The VOICE" O'Boyle out here in Wisconsin.
> I've been looking for a solution to a complicated audio challenge, getting sound around a 300' x 150' building at an annual classic car show. Rather than running miles of cable with all of those headaches, your wireless solution seems viable for our event here in August each year.
> I will try it out ! Thanks again.
• At this other show, they have me working at the edge of a barn door:
ruclips.net/video/aQUulqlpTIE/видео.html
Use this setup like a repeater. So hook up another body pack transmitter at the end and repeat. Use different freq for each leg around the building to avoid conflicting channels.
@@DJRickWeb GREAT! Thank you, DJ Rick Webb. If you ever get to set up all four sides of a building like you described, please add it as ano0ther of your excellent videos.
Dude never heard of IEM systems.
Way easier and smaller receiver.
IEM is not a true diversity system. Its only one antenna vs 2 on these systems. The Alto stealth is a IEM and it doesnt do nesr the range or reliability of a true diversity system. You can setup backup freq to swap to or some mics auto switch between them with the two antennas to maintain perfect signal.
@DJRickWeb
That can be BUT your transmitter is a one antenna-deal.
My experience is that on those distances diversity does not make a difference. Your 1/2 wave antennas make the difference.
If you go IEM, you can hook the transmitter up to a directional antenna and "beam" your signal across. You will get the same distance or more but stereo and easier to hook up with less hassle when in comes to in/output impedance and levels.
And no disrespect intended with my "Dude" comment.
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Xlr cables....
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