The Dark Side of a Premiership - AFL
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2022
- West Coast Eagles hey,
Be a shame if this one tanked. Pretty fascinating stuff.
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Saw you on hard quiz tonight, robbed
much love g, highway burglary
@@jaggerskilbeckdamn what was your expert subject
@@rorythompson864 Google is free 👍👍
Gardiner and Cousins crashed their car into my parents front yard brick wall when I was a kid in Scarborough. Loved them even more after that
I remember that crash everyone still claims Ben was driving but Gardiner took the blame for him which led to him being traded and his career went downhill fast after that
@@davemeads859
Not really... he was St Kilda's #1 ruckman for a while and played in two more grand finals before retiring
@@alexg3455 you've got me there tbh, he did well with the saints
😂😂
I lived in Perth for 10 years. This comment summarises the Perth football culture. If you play for the eagles you can basically burn down Claremont and they’ll make you a statue outside Claremont Quarter.
Seeing Ben Cousins in Perth is like a bigfoot sighting everyone talks abt it
I'm a West Coast Eagles supporter. This video was very well made and fantastic to watch. I really enjoyed the 2004-2007 years because the Eagles were flying high and it was my high school years. So much nostalgia. Ben Cousins and Daniel Kerr were my two favourite players and it really makes me sad seeing what has happened to them post footy. No one is perfect. I really hope they turn their lives around. Keep up with the quality videos mate! 👊
That midfield was 'The Beatles', a second Fab 4. They were insane. It was straight unfair. Loved watching them play though.
@@michaelhutchings8599 Agreed. The only regret is they didn't win more flags with that legendary midfield!
@M Soccer: beloved by lady boys the world over.
@M i cant diss soccer. Its a sport for ppl who cant make it in a tough sport, cant take a real hit (but pretend to be "hit" n roll on the ground in agony.) 🤣😂🤣
@M Go watch soccer then. 🤣
Surprised you didn't mention this but after Ben Cousins' stint in rehab in 07, he returns to the Eagles team in Round 16 against Sydney, hadn't played a game all season and he comes on and is best on ground with 38 disposals. I can't think of many players that miss the first 15 rounds of the season and is still able to produce that level of performance in his first game back. Just another demonstration on what an incredible player and talent he was.
And got no Brownlow votes for that game
@@jlrob85 wrong. Got one. Daniel Kerr 3, Ashley Hansen 2. Also Brownlow votes aren’t the ultimate final judgment of how well a player played.
@@nath-wp7xp how you be getting this info
@@Charles-SG probably AFL tables
Diesel Williams had 45 possessions one game and no votes
Saw you had uploaded and literally jumped with excitement. You make the best afl content bro. Please commit full time to this 🙏
Thank you my guy, appreciate it. Not much cash in this stuff unfortunately
So what you are just in it for the money?? Disgusting to think you are just another greedy grub!!
Could not agree more. Always so good. Genuinely often wonder if producers for the chat shows look for people like this; I know I would.
@@jaggerskilbeck well if that the case you should keep this afl only channel then make another channel that not afl related?
make sure to check us out to king
Literally best Aussie RUclipsr, research, editing and everything is next level
They were damn good.. but hell it's hard for them to be remembered when literally right after they fell off Geelong came out and obliterated the competition, they were stuck in that little period between the insane quality of Brisbane and Geelong. If only they got their act together they might have been a threat in 2007.. maybe.
yea that Geelong side in 2007 was utterly ridiculous, so many strong teams that year filled with champions that will never be forgot and Geelong blew them away, that 2001 draft will never be replicated.
They were good because they were jack on PED's, without PED's they probably weren't that good.
@M you have made comment this thousands of times, you are never going to convince AFL fans that soccer is better in the country that invented AFL. i hope you took your meds today
@M You still around are you? 😆
But i do think Geelong '07 and '08 would have beaten the Eagles even with an uncompromised Cousins and a Judd without his groin issues. Even in 2005 Geelong smashed West Coast at Kardinia park, and in '06 the Eagles had that miraculous comeback against a Geelong side that was 3-6 at the time. Geelong lost three matches in 58 games from Rd 6 2007 until the clash against St.Kilda in 2009 when both were 13-0, a level of performance that was imperious. The Eagles have also yet to win at K.P since '06. Agree with Discoinfernal for sure, that three year gap between peak Lions and peak Geelong was a window for others to snag a flag.
Lucky we have the fresh memory of 2018. :)
Just discovered this channel and I am loving it! Nice to see an Aussie RUclipsr give the spotlight to Afl with great editing and voice over. Keep up the awesome work mate!
Hey everyone, it has come to my attention that I showed a clip of Brent Staker instead of Tyson Stenglein. If you look up photos of each player in their prime I reckon they look exactly the same but Brent's eyes are rolled back into his head. Anyway it's been noticed and I'll never do it again. Apology video in a couple days
The level of detail you go into each time. The editing. The voice. The plot. The evidence everything fits into place… I wish you all the best keep this up bro ❤❤❤. Never knew that much about the Adelaide incident until you posted.. thank you!
This was really interesting. Thanks for making it. Well put together too. You look deeper than the surface level we are normally presented with. As a Collingwood supporter would love you to do something on the emergence of the Pies and their phenomenal run of close victories and how they went from 17th to almost pinch it this year. I reckon that would get a few hundred thousand views.
Your Videos are well edited and Inspiring to watch mate, you are a real talent at what you do, every detail you add is spot on! Thankyou for your hard work, keep it up, we all love to see more
Man your videos are so good. If you made videos about Gaelic football or even badminton I'd be hooked. Your storytelling is great everything about them is just pure quality. I'm moving to Australia in a few weeks and you're the reason I've gotten into the sport really.
Ive seen Benny Cousins a couple of times recently at the channel 7 building. He looks healthy.
As an Eagles fan this time period absolutely kills me. We could have been one of the greatest teams in history but the team was it's own worst enemy. Looking back it seems like nothing more than a complete waste. That 06 flag will always be tainted for me.
Awesome video as usual! Thanks for all the effort you put in. Never clicked something in the feed faster
This West Coast team should have won more premierships then they did, and yes I know that sounds stupid to say about a team that make two grand finals in a row, and won a premiership, but that's how great the West Coast Eagles where.
Awesome video man! Really enjoy the content. Though, I will say that as a non supporter of WC, I still fondly remember this juggernaut of a team at the time and there top tier midfield in any generation. It's fair to say the scandals have become the biggest talking point, but I dont think its overshadowed to point that everyone has forgotten about the on field brilliance.
Keep up the amazing work!
Im a swans supporter. i reckon that west coast team was one of the most talented ive ever seen. sydney never had half their talent. ive seen a lot of good teams but that wce ruck and midfield is the best ive seen. judd cousins cox and embley/kerr were unreal
I appreciate you being so mindful around the language you've used around drugs and addiction
jagger this is a massive W, 21k views on the first day mate we love your channel, can't wait for the next one you legend keep up the good work.
Great video. I'm an Eagles fan but was only very young at the time so I have no memories of either grand finals in '05 and '06, nor any idea how much drama occurred outside of Cousins, being he was the most heavily publicised.
It's quite interesting to know how much went on, and how the club got off free of punishment.
Very well made and informative video, please make more!
The video didnt talk about the likelyhood of performance enhancing drugs. Highly likely.
Such a good day when jagger uploads.
Great upload mate, interesting to look back on these crazy times
Great video mate. I lived in WA when I was about 9-10 I during the late 2000s and got to see the 07 premiership team live. Probably too young to gauge how good they really were but I remember it being an electric atmosphere at games. The WA community just seemed to love them, maybe I was just a kid but people seemed to say nothing bad about the team because they just kept winning. We moved to SA a few years later and I immediately saw a completely different side of the coin. I think some SA fans were still bitter about the 2006 prelim vs Crows (I still to this day think Ben Cousins took amphetamines at 1/2 time) but people truly hated the team and the culture. Just is unreal to rewatch all the footage of a team of generational talent and see all the stories that seemed to miss a lot of the WA publics ears.
Absolutely love your content mate! Amazing stuff! Please keep going!
Awww yeah, he’s back. Please keep these up. Need more afl docos like these.
Quality over quantity. Always loving the topic and your execution.
Awesome video as usual man, hope you can find the time and motivation to keep them coming!
Superb video, takes me right back. Thank you ❤
I was only 10 when they won in 06 so my memories of that period aren’t the greatest, but this video is giving me such nostalgia seeing channel 10 TV coverage and all the players we forget about. Such a time capsule with quality research and information. Fantastic video.
Mate I'm a dockers fan and always loved cousins. he was not a robot and just like anyone else I new at that age getting in the shit haha
I seen gardener at a festival chasing his jaw haha
I've never been to Perth, but I always got feeling that if you were assessed you could get away with anything in Perth, and someone told me that I'm wrong.
Just found your channel mate n thought this was fantastic! We all knew they were on the gear but you just sort of forgot how many incidents the players had through out that period of early to mid 2000’s. As you said that eagles midfield on paper is 1 of the greatest the games ever seen but the team as a whole was a real force. To only end up with 1 flag from that list is truely an underachievement
awesome video mate, love your content, keep it up :)
Your work is amazing dude, would love to see more from you, maybe some positive stories as well, maybe some stories on Brisbane, Geelong, Hawthorne and Richmond and their triple premiership wins.
this is such a great video i can tell you put a lot of effort into it!
West Coast should have had their 2006 premiership stripped from them. Pretty weak by the AFL to have such little punishment
Wow! This excellently sums up the situation in the mid 2000's. After Port dethroned the Lions, the Swans and West Coast were THE teams to watch. Who knows what could have become of West Coast if things were different. Having said that, even a single premiership is a major achievement. Excellent video!
What a great production. Definitely one for me to pin to my AFL History Pinterest Board..
It makes sense now the rumours of steroid use during that era
Those rumours were from the early 90's and they were bullshit.
90’s eagles were definitely on the roids, footy’s worst kept secret, but I’m not sure about the 05-07 eagles.
how you haven't been employed by a footy club for either media or annalist amazes me, you make the best contend which is so well researched and executed it is amazing.
Thanks g, if you know anyone let me know
With Ross Lyon coming back to St Kilda, it might be good to compare what the interpretation of his first exit at the time was, compared to what we know now. Love the vids mate!
Best AFL content on RUclips mate. Elite stuff
Great content again, would be cool to do one about how Geelong have managed to completely rebuild 2 premiership lists while only ever dropping out of finals once
First time watching your content. Very high quality stuff brother. I think you're going to get very popular if you keep it up.
It’s a shame so many great players from
This team are forgotten because of the actions of a small group
Great video mate. This story is a sad one. Not unlike a parent spoiling their child….. you enable such behaviour, it will eventually manifest into something that is habitual and permanently destructive
This is the best AFL content on YT. Herb's gone (he'll be sorely missed) so time to take The Throne mate.
This is a great video mate 👍 I'm an Eagles supporter and even I didn't know half of this info; I didn't realise how bad it was (I thought it was just Cousins and a bit of Kerr tbh)
‘Ken mint video. You should start a podcast re AFL - history/incidents etc, if you haven’t already. The narration and the form is elite.
One of my favourite RUclipsrs! Keep it up mate
Always a good day when you upload
When we were waiting for him, he returned
Babe wake up, new jagger skillbeck video just dropped
Awesome mate.. big eagles supporter here.. 👌 quality editing mate 👍👍. even if u got Brent Staker mixed up with Tyson Stenglien 😉 .
Great job dude
Great vid as always, I have a video idea: maybe about how fitzroy went out of the afl
brilliant vid as a north supporter i'd love a video on duck's scandal and how it affected the club
Great video! I've certainly never been inside an AFL club. But you could guess that for every incident reported, there are probably 1 or 2 that never see the light of day. Either the club isn't made aware or they perform a cover-up.
Just got yourself a new subscriber mate, well done!
This is one of the best channels super underrated
Great video mate been subbed for ages loved your what happened to the crows and I'm a crows supporter
As an Eagles supporter everything you have stated is true, with exception that if you are an Eagles player you can "get away with anything in Perth". Furtherest thing from true. If anything the spotlight is on them even more for the worse.
Love when you post bro. Such a goat
You’ve outdone yourself w this one, mate. As a swans fan I felt so lucky to get a flag against the eagles, they were scary good. Has a team ever topped that midfield? Judd, Cousins, Kerr and Cox
2006 premiership should be taken off the eagles. They were on the gear for sure, cousins looked like a race horse that day
Really good analysis of the situation at West Coast in the mid 2000s. The moral for the story for me is alright they won the flag in 2006 but that came at massive cost for club. Clubs that turn a blind eye to these cultural issues are really saving up for bigger issues to explode later down the track. Would be interesting to see how many clubs' issues had in the 2000s. I suspect it was not only West Coast.
it's a shame we still look at that team as "Damn Good" during that period. When they clearly didn't just abuse substances off-field, they were most certainly using game day. "Keeping the high" bloody oath they were, otherwise they would have crashed and burned game day. Somewhat ironic that Worsfold went to go save Essendon after it's drug saga, when the AFL knew damn well within that report that all he ever did was enable the West Coast players to abuse drugs, so much so as protecting them. The fact that these blokes got to keep playing football (A bloody luxury) instead of being criminally convicted for drug abuse and assaults amongst a number of other discretions says a lot about money and fame, if joe down the road behaved how they did he'd still be in jail as we speak. Great to shine a torch on them, but i think they truly need a lighthouse shining on them. They should never ever be celebrated for any reason.
amazing video mate you easily have one of my favourite channels, i rewatch ur content all the time. Just a thought - you should consider creating a more produced thumbnail to drive clicks, because anyone who watches these videos will subscribe
yeh fair, not great at photoshop tbh
Great work and quality!
This is really well done! Thanks
They were elite and who knows who good they could’ve been….
Fantastic video mate I learnt a lot
I could watch hours of this: well done!
Great perspective
I love that most of the clips you used to show how good the Eagles were during this era showed had them behind on the scoreboard
At the time west coast nickname was the come back kings, so it does make sense oddly enough.
@@leaderofnoone9087 Exactly. They did their best work under immense pressure.
They did there best work after their half time pick me up 🤣
@@frozen4blade313 You'd know all about it huh. Also, it's 'their'. Year 3 spelling mate. You can do it. 😆
@@jellyroll76 ahhhh did I hurt some feelings son.... And please correct my spelling when it is actually correct.
"Their" belonging to or associated with the people or things previously mentioned or easily identified.
So glad you could point that out to me. Due to my incorrect spelling my statement in now null and void. Honestly I don't know how I can continue to walk tall or even face my family now. Please tell me the ways of fluent English spelling in RUclips comment sections oh master of english.
Doesn't change the fact anything that team did should be removed from history as it is tainted by the fact they were on meth.
ASADA were there this year at 2022 GF taking urine tests of players after the game. Results from similar tests after the 2006 GF would have been interesting.
Good stuff. Thanks for making this.
The sniff, sniff/ snort, snort premiers
That was a brilliant presentation of the highest quality. What's it doing on youtube? Fox Footy or Channel 7 should be running with this content. Well done and subbed..
Great Work mate, really well done
its so sad about how drugs can really demolish a group of people. Its sad
Please set up a Patreon so we can fund you to make more AFL content. Love your work
Welcome back mate.
How needs 60 Minutes....Amazing stuff Jagger
Insane analysis 🔥🔥🔥
Great video man. I'm wondering if you'd ever consider making a video on the Tasmania Jackjumpers fairytale debut NBL season. Similar to the video about the Spurs 2014 championship.
Ripper video bro, nice work! Isn't that Brent Staker rather than Tyson Stenglein at 5:52?
Love your videos can you please do a hawks video of any kind
Great stuff king, keep it up!
That team had 3 premierships in them for sure.
I could actually watch afl docs like this all day, they should do all or nothing docs on afl teams so we can follow them for a season like soccer and NFL
Can you do a Geelong 2022 premiership video? Thanks
Essington thought it was a good idea to hire Worsfold. I guess they thought he wouldn't have a culture shock.
The west coke eagles, we’re all fkn high
Goated bro king of AFL content
Still find it absolutely unfair that 34 of the Essendon players faced suspension for 12 months for no fault of their own, but these West Coast players were protected in the name of winning. I still to this day can't believe it, one group were unknowingly given banned substances and the others were doing it as a hobby.
Perfect as always mate
That was Brent Staker mate not Tyson Stenglein..great video tho mate..peace💪
A video idea would be to have a look at Collingwood from 2002 and just how good Nathan Buckley was.
To win the norm in a losing GF. Would be awesome for you to cover.
As a West Coast fan, really well put together and I agree