We're just as shocked by the winner of this U-Drags race as you are. What other ICE vs. EV races would you like us to do next? Let us know in the comments below!
How about a really weird one G80 EV vs G80 ice. Or something similar to that where the main difference is just the power train. Edit - to clarify I meant the Genesis cars. Maserati would also work here.
Test the Highland Model 3 Performance against any M car but you can’t use Track Mode with the Model 3. Use Insane Mode and heat the battery and then it will win.
@@LearningFast the point of a U-drag isn't for it to be one sided, that's no fun. It's supposed to be close. Also, they can only run cars that they can get a hold of and Tesla famously doesn't lend models out to testing for anyone who might say something negative. So unless they buy one, Teslas won't be joining. So on the plus side you should see a cybertruck on the strip, once it stops breaking long enough to get a clean run. Which I actually expect to be pretty decent. If the brakes last long enough to get a reading. In fact, I feel like being wrong, I'll call it now. Based on what I know about the cybertruck, I'm guessing it will do the acceleration just fine. However I am not expecting good things in the braking zone or in the corners. It's top speed of a little over 100 mph will also hurt it severely on the final stretch. So I'm guessing it will be a couple seconds behind the KIA EV6 GT. Which I believe will put it near the R1T on the leaderboard. So that might be a race. Thirdly, you don't get to set the conditions for races. Edmunds does that.
@@roguedogx I will gladly lend them my Model 3 Performance for the test. It runs upper 10s in the 1/4 mile with a depleted and cold battery. It will do just fine as long as they don’t artificially cripple it by putting it in Track Mode.
They are dong a hit job on BMW... If they drove the xDrive M4 the way that it should be driven, it would get an 11.0 second quarter mile and almost match the M8 which would put it in the top 5 fastest cars. They are hamstringing the M4 to give other cars that support them a better look.
@@jr1885 Will not be another M5 CS according to BMW for now, need to figure out how to make the batteries lighter ... they need to just take Rimac's design and the model 3 performance is very light for an EV.
Tires make a HUGE difference in performance. Pilot Sport 4S tires are much better for speed than what was installed on the i5. In my i4 M50, there's a very noticeable difference in performance between the stock Pilot Sport 4 tires that came with the car and the Pilot Sport 4S tires that I replaced them with.
For everyone complaining about the non x-drive M4 the answer is obvious. They wanted to make this a more fair race. The x-drive M4 would’ve murked that tank. I mean look at the results here lol. The M4 x-drive would probably beat the new M5 as well. 🤷🏾♂️
@@davothegreat9990 races like these are there to compare how fast the newer model is compared to the old. Some viewers that are interested in purchasing one of these cars would want to know how fast the new 5 series is to a full M car.
As an owner of the i5M60 and previous owner of an M5 Comp and the older M3 I was very pleasantly surprised just how well the big, heavy i5 took the corner, it was on par with the considerably lighter M4 Comp. Considering one is a full fat M car and the other an M-Lite EV it was much closer than I expected. Had the used the RWD M4 the i5M60 would have won it by a mile.
Performance aside, there was a time when I absolutely hated the buck-tooth front end of the M4 and M3. now that I've seen the i5, I'd take an M4 in a heartbeat. The new BMW EV lineup is hideous.
@@justinbecker4772 Its an M car.. offcourse its more expensive! The I5 is just a feminine wannabe M! An electric car can never ever be a M car or an enthusiast car for that matter! A car without an engine is like a eunuch. Its been neutered..
How are people saying they are pushing for an agenda on both sides?!? Some say why not X drive M, some say why the price discrepancy. Guys chill they are just running cars they have and think are interesting.
Almost forgot to guess before the race started. While i think the i60 will have the M4 off thr jump, i think that's were its advantage will end. Thr M4s better tires and brakes will give it the advantage at thd turn around, and the return trip will see the i60 peg.
It's pretty ridiculous you gotta push the break, turn 7 knobs, press 4 buttons, do a retina scan, rub your belly, and pat you head just to get it in certain modes
I wonder how the i5 would do on identical tires to the M4? The i5 looked hella-sloppy in the corners. Also, I love that the $60k Ioniq 5N smokes both of these "as tested" $100K+ cars.
Well duh. The 5 series isn't meant to be fast but it is. It's more of a luxury sedan daily driver. The m4 is the rwd version and not the far faster xdrive. To put it into perspective they got 0-60 in 3.8 sec for the rwd and the XDrive does it in 2.8 sec and a 11.0 quarter mile @125mph.. comments like these just show lack of car knowledge. AWD vs RWD in a straight line is a massive advantage to any car.
It don’t count until Alex Drives. You could look at it two ways. You get to see a everyday driver in the car and how it would perform and a good driver. On the other hand that always leaves one car handicapped. Where should I send my resume’?
The i5 M60 is obviously a full sized (and heavy) performance/luxury sedan. And I am glad that you didn't run either of these cars against a performance crossover or SUV, even if racing a Hyundai Ioniq 5N would have been a closer race. I would like to see this M4 raced against the new Tesla Model 3 Performance, even though it is priced against the much quicker and faster Model S Plaid.
This m4 ? Why would u want to see a RWD m4 vs an AWD EV and not the far faster Xdrive m4. If u wanna see what would happen watch hagerty latest vid and check the leaderbaords. The m4 comp xdrive is above the model 3 performance with a time of 11.0 @125mph.. and that's not even on a drag strip or the new LCI with more HP.
If you want subscriptions, do better with available and comparable options. Missed opportunity. Side note, good lawd, that i5 is ugly. It actually hurts to look at. And that is a serious statement when sitting next to the angry beaver.
Unfortunately Edmunds has chosen to NOT race the Model S Plaid. But you are right in saying that the Plaid has amazing acceleration at higher speeds, being the same or quicker than the top Ferraris and Lamborghinis above 100MPH.
See taycan turbo gt .. porsche obliterated the plaid. (Pascal bernatchez turbo gt) non weisach pack running a 9.15 quarter mile. With weisach pack 8.9...
BMW do not want the EVs to have more power than their M variants make the I5 M60 kinda low value especially you when you upgrade to m60 because you want more power. We all know that EV horsepower is a lot easier to achieve and You could get a Model S Plaid or a Lucid Air Touring with less money but more Horsepower😂
Despite not being very quick, the i5 M60 also will make all your passengers vomit for the first couple months until you master how to feather the throttle. There's absolutely zero smoothing calibration
So... Wait a minute mate. So, the electric mammoth is slower in a straight line (which should be the other way around), and it does gain in the corner???? HOW????? Huge tire difference????
The 5N certainly is a better car, but that BMW leases better than the 5N. Hyundai is massively underperforming right now in sales on the 5N due to this. Hopefully they come to their senses as a lot of EV buyers tend to lease.
So the 5N is only 2 sec faster and the 5 series is far more luxurious and comfortable to drive with better tech .. thats a compliment to bmw. I don't think u understand what a 5 series is meant to be.
@@Outcastiid i don't understand why people are leasing an EV in the first place. You buy an EV to try and save money on gas and maintenance cost. If they limit your mileage in a lease, it's just not worth the extra money you are paying for the EV. Ev's are for people that drive min 20-25k miles a year. I almost got the new ioniq 6 limited but the high price just didn't justify the deal. And I'm driving 25k a year.
@avis1978 No, I do, because I currently have two and am looking into getting a 5N. Leasing is also very popular due to the cheaper cost due to not having to directly take the hit on predicted residuals and not worrying about repairs out-of-warranty. There are other very, VERY quick EVs such as the Model S Plaid and Lucid Air GT that lease about the same as the 5N. It's an amazing vehicle, but the cost to lease isn't worth it currently.
@@G82Watts Two seconds on this test is a MASSIVE difference. Also, better tech? I'll take quality over quantity, personally. The BMW just isn't fully there to proudly wear the M60 badge. The i4 M50 is a far better package than the i5 M60.
Semms weird how on the beginning stretch they were neck and neck and then on the second stretch where the M60 was clearly winning the M4 shot back like a bat out of hell. It's almost as if he let off the gas to not ruin the flagship M perception of the public? Hmm....
hey are dong a hit job on BMW... If they drove the xDrive M4 the way that it should be driven, it would get an 11.0 second quarter mile and almost match the M8 which would put it in the top 5 fastest cars. They are hamstringing the M4 to give other cars that support them a better look.
Enought is enought.. i can't understand how a hi torque RWD ice car could launch pretty much as fast as an AWD EV which even got more power and more torque. This was worst fake race i ever seen and if with that ultra-short-arms 4feet/40kg director-jonathan driver some people would see big advantage for m4 in first race.. for second is no explanation at all!
Everyone having a winge about Edmunds not using an xDrive car needs to realize that it simply might not have been available for loan from BMW. Yes, it would have been faster, but it still won. Relax.
Please, please, please try the new Tesla Model 3 Performance against any stock M car you want. Just don’t test the Model 3 in Track Mode and it will hold its own. If you heat the battery it will beat any of the stock M cars.
@@LearningFast ur desperation to validate ur poor mans bmw M3 is commendable. Well act like people daily driving run to a pre heating station every 5 min. 😂 u told a guy on ur channel that u had to run ur car within 7 min after preheating it to get a better time. That's not real world. The model 3 would get obliterated on the round about and lose in the top end. I pray they do that race. M4 comp xdrive vs model 3 fish.
Can't believe they chanced the iconic M3 into a 4 door and the 4 door into the M3. Not the best marketing. M3 was 2 doors and the M4 was 4 door. Not smart on whomever made this decision. 😁
Not worth it for speeds that no one sees on public roads. Porsche did it to make launches consistent which is why it shifts so soon, but 99% of driving will never see a return for the cost and complexity. These EVs do 0 to 60 in under 3.5 seconds easily. ICE cars need launch control to match them.
Sometimes i think BMW are doing a huge favour on purpose for cars industry when they made the New 5 Series/ M5 and so, i think they are sacrificing their own car just to save the other cars and brands, like hey look the M5 and 5 Series are not selling and no body like them like they used to be, it failed !!
Just a Small Comment… when You use in race Alfa🍀 put in Manual… not leave in automatic… those people🤦♂️. Will be bit better for Alfa for sure.. making batter the stop before the corner and moving aut. In race auto gear doesn’t work well and this is correct as to Be in Manual usign the beautiful Metal Paddles and not the plastic paddles of the Cadillac
A few pointless notes: -they should have used the xDrive M4 but I don’t blame Edmunds. They can only access the cars in BMW’s review fleet, that’s on BMW for not making the AWD car available. -I am still shocked at how ugly modern BMWs are. I don’t care about the cope from auto journalists (“IT GROWS ON YOU!!!!”), the front of the G80/G82 M cars is totally unacceptable. The i5 I looks terrible. BMW should fire their design chief and beg Albert Biermann to unretire and come back. -just as shocking as the appalling exteriors is how much modern BMWs weigh. The entire performance car world (particularly in the EU) laughed in 2008 at the GT-R’s kerb weight but now every European car is at or over 2 tonnes. I get that batteries weigh a lot but it is completely unacceptable that the G90 M5 weighs more than a F-150.
We're just as shocked by the winner of this U-Drags race as you are. What other ICE vs. EV races would you like us to do next? Let us know in the comments below!
How about a really weird one G80 EV vs G80 ice. Or something similar to that where the main difference is just the power train.
Edit - to clarify I meant the Genesis cars. Maserati would also work here.
Test the Highland Model 3 Performance against any M car but you can’t use Track Mode with the Model 3. Use Insane Mode and heat the battery and then it will win.
@@LearningFast the point of a U-drag isn't for it to be one sided, that's no fun. It's supposed to be close.
Also, they can only run cars that they can get a hold of and Tesla famously doesn't lend models out to testing for anyone who might say something negative. So unless they buy one, Teslas won't be joining.
So on the plus side you should see a cybertruck on the strip, once it stops breaking long enough to get a clean run. Which I actually expect to be pretty decent. If the brakes last long enough to get a reading.
In fact, I feel like being wrong, I'll call it now. Based on what I know about the cybertruck, I'm guessing it will do the acceleration just fine. However I am not expecting good things in the braking zone or in the corners. It's top speed of a little over 100 mph will also hurt it severely on the final stretch.
So I'm guessing it will be a couple seconds behind the KIA EV6 GT. Which I believe will put it near the R1T on the leaderboard. So that might be a race.
Thirdly, you don't get to set the conditions for races. Edmunds does that.
@@roguedogx I will gladly lend them my Model 3 Performance for the test. It runs upper 10s in the 1/4 mile with a depleted and cold battery. It will do just fine as long as they don’t artificially cripple it by putting it in Track Mode.
@@edmundscars I was surprised how it hooked on ps4 tires I used to ran them on a less hp car but I was spinning
Why do u guys insist on using rwd m4s vs AWD EVs and not the farrrr faster XDrive version?
@@G82Watts well if they race it against EVs, the ICE car cant be too fast for obvious reasons. So they choose the slower version.
@@senadhasanbasic260 yea many people think they've been paid to push EVs.
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They are dong a hit job on BMW... If they drove the xDrive M4 the way that it should be driven, it would get an 11.0 second quarter mile and almost match the M8 which would put it in the top 5 fastest cars. They are hamstringing the M4 to give other cars that support them a better look.
Yeah its actually annoying at this point that they aren't using an XDrive for any these
impressive how the RWD M4 beats the AWD electric car even at launching
disappointing launch from the i5 but yeah that RWD launches fantastically
The U-DRAG that I cannot wait to see is 2025 M5 vs 2022 M5CS!!
That is gonna be a *massacre* 😂
Nah they'd never do that. Their races have to be rwd cars vs AWD. 😂😂 to let the EVs have a chance.
@@DavidGarcia29497yeah until the next gen M5CS comes out…
@@jr1885 Will not be another M5 CS according to BMW for now, need to figure out how to make the batteries lighter ... they need to just take Rimac's design and the model 3 performance is very light for an EV.
@@PEACEOUTXX1 both cars have 4wd and yes they do rwd vs awd
Very Impressive for a 5200 plus pound car against the legendary M4 S58
Tires make a HUGE difference in performance. Pilot Sport 4S tires are much better for speed than what was installed on the i5. In my i4 M50, there's a very noticeable difference in performance between the stock Pilot Sport 4 tires that came with the car and the Pilot Sport 4S tires that I replaced them with.
For everyone complaining about the non x-drive M4 the answer is obvious. They wanted to make this a more fair race. The x-drive M4 would’ve murked that tank. I mean look at the results here lol. The M4 x-drive would probably beat the new M5 as well. 🤷🏾♂️
Xdrive is best. If it's unfair, then don't race them.
M8 would gap the m4
@@davothegreat9990 races like these are there to compare how fast the newer model is compared to the old. Some viewers that are interested in purchasing one of these cars would want to know how fast the new 5 series is to a full M car.
@@BoxingWave unlikely. There both completely different cars for different markets.
It's not would. It flat can destroy that whale of a car
That's why I don't care for EVs. They just don't have the top end of ICE.
As an owner of the i5M60 and previous owner of an M5 Comp and the older M3 I was very pleasantly surprised just how well the big, heavy i5 took the corner, it was on par with the considerably lighter M4 Comp. Considering one is a full fat M car and the other an M-Lite EV it was much closer than I expected. Had the used the RWD M4 the i5M60 would have won it by a mile.
Actually impressed by both of these. I5 did well for what it is.
2:59 what happened there with the sudden M60 deceleration?
it looks staged. just compare i5 m60 60-130 time and m4s as well, you will know that they made it up.
poor editing
Just aero and EV power, EVs tend to lose power at the top end
@@kcw9313 Yeah, probably happened when braking but the video shows it during the acceleration section.
I was looking for this comment, I noticed that as well 🤔
Why are you still using pre-2025 M4? New cars have been in the US since 4/2024.
Better question is why do they insist of using a rwd m4 and not the XDrive vs other AWD cars.
@@G82Watts quite obvious.. they are racing EVs, thats why.
Because they dont want EVs to get destroyed.
The G80/82 platform is the best in the game right now.
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@@justincounts5747 Enlighten us
@@justincounts5747 Enlighten us
@@justincounts5747 🤓☝️
Porsche is better and c8 corvette.
The M4 Competition is a weapon!
Is anybody else seeing the 540 stopping all of a sudden during the runs. The first run it slowed drastically twice
Performance aside, there was a time when I absolutely hated the buck-tooth front end of the M4 and M3. now that I've seen the i5, I'd take an M4 in a heartbeat. The new BMW EV lineup is hideous.
WHY are you using the RWD version? WTH
Because the RWD version is already 15k more expensive than the i5. Believe it or not, people shop on price point.
@@justinbecker4772 Its an M car.. offcourse its more expensive! The I5 is just a feminine wannabe M! An electric car can never ever be a M car or an enthusiast car for that matter! A car without an engine is like a eunuch. Its been neutered..
@@Aizman87 okay, now say that all again without a bunch of pervy sex analogies.
@justinbecker4772 if unfair, don't race them. Otherwise boring
@@justinbecker4772 pervy sex analogies? 🤣🤣🤣 What u gonna tell me next? That there is more than 2 genders? 😂😂
How are people saying they are pushing for an agenda on both sides?!? Some say why not X drive M, some say why the price discrepancy. Guys chill they are just running cars they have and think are interesting.
New vs previous gen M5 please!
Model S Plaid vs Lucid Air Sapphire…PLEASE
Why didn’t you use the boost paddle on m60?
Wow the M4 is impressive!
Should’ve used the xdrive
Lol both the Ioniq 5 N and ev6 Gt would destroy this 5 series. What a joke
My dude are you dense the 5 series is a big luxury saloon the ionic 5 is a small hatch 😂
12 seconds in and i can tell you rwd isnt fair grab an effing xdrive.
The G8X class of M Cars are straight up Demigods.
Now do both without launch control like from a stoplight
How do they know when to start braking? I'm guessing many attempts before filming?
That i5 can pretty much beat a trackhawk or tie it . Thats crazy 🔥 & i love that color on the M4 😍
Twilight Purple ??
@@howardwong8562 i think
Almost forgot to guess before the race started. While i think the i60 will have the M4 off thr jump, i think that's were its advantage will end. Thr M4s better tires and brakes will give it the advantage at thd turn around, and the return trip will see the i60 peg.
Love the shorter format. Gg
Love this episode. I own i5 m60 u didn’t hit boost man🤦🏻♂️
Use xdrive m4, if unfair race another car.
Good race boys...
It's pretty ridiculous you gotta push the break, turn 7 knobs, press 4 buttons, do a retina scan, rub your belly, and pat you head just to get it in certain modes
Super surprised at how fast the m4 was in a straight line.
I wonder how the i5 would do on identical tires to the M4? The i5 looked hella-sloppy in the corners. Also, I love that the $60k Ioniq 5N smokes both of these "as tested" $100K+ cars.
Well duh. The 5 series isn't meant to be fast but it is. It's more of a luxury sedan daily driver. The m4 is the rwd version and not the far faster xdrive. To put it into perspective they got 0-60 in 3.8 sec for the rwd and the XDrive does it in 2.8 sec and a 11.0 quarter mile @125mph.. comments like these just show lack of car knowledge. AWD vs RWD in a straight line is a massive advantage to any car.
@@ragweedmakesmesneeze the G82 Xdrive was faster than the Ioniq 5N btw. All about traction
And that’s stock. Just downpipe and e85 tune and the m4 makes over 640whp and wtq. Good luck trying to catch that with boring ev hyundai
@@MikeyG003yet a custom tune is always over 700 wheel on e50
@@Bimmer_Billlast I saw was 640 on dyno with e30, but that was a while ago. Guess they make more now lol or is that with PI?
It don’t count until Alex Drives. You could look at it two ways. You get to see a everyday driver in the car and how it would perform and a good driver. On the other hand that always leaves one car handicapped. Where should I send my resume’?
That M4c picks up like the wind 😅
I own a Mercedes GLS AMG and i can confidently say, nobody does performance like BMW!! My goodness!! 💪💪💪👍👍
Congratulations to Alistair. This is the first race I can remember Alistair actually out-driving his opponent.
I almost didn't watch because I'm so sick of seeing eAnything stomping snot bubbles out of our favorite ICE vehicles. Glad I watched. Suck it EV.
The i5 M60 is obviously a full sized (and heavy) performance/luxury sedan. And I am glad that you didn't run either of these cars against a performance crossover or SUV, even if racing a Hyundai Ioniq 5N would have been a closer race. I would like to see this M4 raced against the new Tesla Model 3 Performance, even though it is priced against the much quicker and faster Model S Plaid.
This m4 ? Why would u want to see a RWD m4 vs an AWD EV and not the far faster Xdrive m4. If u wanna see what would happen watch hagerty latest vid and check the leaderbaords. The m4 comp xdrive is above the model 3 performance with a time of 11.0 @125mph.. and that's not even on a drag strip or the new LCI with more HP.
@@PEACEOUTXX1 yeah the G80 on Hagerty smoked the US Model 3 P badly.
If you want subscriptions, do better with available and comparable options. Missed opportunity. Side note, good lawd, that i5 is ugly. It actually hurts to look at. And that is a serious statement when sitting next to the angry beaver.
Use XDrive m4 please i guess if u can ever find one to test.
EVs no top end? See: Plaid
Model s/x plaid, Lucid air sapphire, Taycan turbo GT, Lotus evija, rimac nevera all said: Hold my beer motherfuckers
Unfortunately Edmunds has chosen to NOT race the Model S Plaid. But you are right in saying that the Plaid has amazing acceleration at higher speeds, being the same or quicker than the top Ferraris and Lamborghinis above 100MPH.
@@kcw9313 lol yeah finally a 1000whp EV has some top end 😂
@@senadhasanbasic260ioniq N5 has great top end too, and it’s cheap.
So does the new Tesla Model 3.
See taycan turbo gt .. porsche obliterated the plaid. (Pascal bernatchez turbo gt) non weisach pack running a 9.15 quarter mile. With weisach pack 8.9...
BMW do not want the EVs to have more power than their M variants make the I5 M60 kinda low value especially you when you upgrade to m60 because you want more power. We all know that EV horsepower is a lot easier to achieve and You could get a Model S Plaid or a Lucid Air Touring with less money but more Horsepower😂
You forgot to press the boost pedal on m60 btw
Man that I5 was all over the place under braking😮
Despite not being very quick, the i5 M60 also will make all your passengers vomit for the first couple months until you master how to feather the throttle. There's absolutely zero smoothing calibration
Only problem is appears on byd seal in traffic transit.
what in the world are these seating positions??
So... Wait a minute mate. So, the electric mammoth is slower in a straight line (which should be the other way around), and it does gain in the corner???? HOW????? Huge tire difference????
Called shitty drivers...the one guy even admits he messed up.
So the ioniq 5N cost $35k less than the M60, and it's 2 sec faster. That's just show you how ahead is the hyundai group in EV compare to BMW 🤭🤭🤭.
The 5N certainly is a better car, but that BMW leases better than the 5N. Hyundai is massively underperforming right now in sales on the 5N due to this. Hopefully they come to their senses as a lot of EV buyers tend to lease.
So the 5N is only 2 sec faster and the 5 series is far more luxurious and comfortable to drive with better tech .. thats a compliment to bmw. I don't think u understand what a 5 series is meant to be.
@@Outcastiid i don't understand why people are leasing an EV in the first place. You buy an EV to try and save money on gas and maintenance cost. If they limit your mileage in a lease, it's just not worth the extra money you are paying for the EV. Ev's are for people that drive min 20-25k miles a year. I almost got the new ioniq 6 limited but the high price just didn't justify the deal. And I'm driving 25k a year.
@avis1978 No, I do, because I currently have two and am looking into getting a 5N. Leasing is also very popular due to the cheaper cost due to not having to directly take the hit on predicted residuals and not worrying about repairs out-of-warranty. There are other very, VERY quick EVs such as the Model S Plaid and Lucid Air GT that lease about the same as the 5N. It's an amazing vehicle, but the cost to lease isn't worth it currently.
@@G82Watts Two seconds on this test is a MASSIVE difference. Also, better tech? I'll take quality over quantity, personally. The BMW just isn't fully there to proudly wear the M60 badge. The i4 M50 is a far better package than the i5 M60.
The 2000 pound heavier EV catches the M4 and passes it in the turn but loses on the straightaway…how does that work?
M4 all day for my garage ❤❤
Semms weird how on the beginning stretch they were neck and neck and then on the second stretch where the M60 was clearly winning the M4 shot back like a bat out of hell. It's almost as if he let off the gas to not ruin the flagship M perception of the public? Hmm....
The fastest BMW i5 here should have just raced the slowest Lucid Air lolol that would have been an actual race
no top end?
More like, not having a gearbox
Yall should get an M5Cs
Where are the M60s exhausts?
hey are dong a hit job on BMW... If they drove the xDrive M4 the way that it should be driven, it would get an 11.0 second quarter mile and almost match the M8 which would put it in the top 5 fastest cars. They are hamstringing the M4 to give other cars that support them a better look.
Enought is enought.. i can't understand how a hi torque RWD ice car could launch pretty much as fast as an AWD EV which even got more power and more torque.
This was worst fake race i ever seen and if with that ultra-short-arms 4feet/40kg director-jonathan driver some people would see big advantage for m4 in first race.. for second is no explanation at all!
I heard bmw got new m performer designers and the old designer will go to the electric line
I5m60 needs the plaid powertrain. 😊
Is it in the contract to have at least one bmw in the episode?
They're the benchmark these days.
B58/S58 are the way forward
BMW quoted very high or max Horsepower numbers for the M60. Its nowhere near the level of speed for EV with identical HP numbers.
Less HP and RWD compare to something that has more HP and it's AWD... I mean guys come on there is an AWD M4 too!
Base Tesla Model S is quicker than both of these cars. I’d love to see the non-Plaid comparison in a U-Drags.
Still just a Tesla though.
The new 5 series looks SO bad..like a Hyundai
Everyone having a winge about Edmunds not using an xDrive car needs to realize that it simply might not have been available for loan from BMW. Yes, it would have been faster, but it still won. Relax.
BMW M ice management won’t allow the EV gang get the upper hand. For now.
PLease for love of all that is good and sane, stop testing E cars! Boring!!
Boys it's called 'M lite'
Lightness > Power.
Need new Tesla model 3 performance compare
Please, please, please try the new Tesla Model 3 Performance against any stock M car you want. Just don’t test the Model 3 in Track Mode and it will hold its own. If you heat the battery it will beat any of the stock M cars.
@@LearningFast ur desperation to validate ur poor mans bmw M3 is commendable. Well act like people daily driving run to a pre heating station every 5 min. 😂 u told a guy on ur channel that u had to run ur car within 7 min after preheating it to get a better time. That's not real world. The model 3 would get obliterated on the round about and lose in the top end. I pray they do that race. M4 comp xdrive vs model 3 fish.
@@G82Watts post some videos of your BMW doing anything. You talk a lot and never back it up, buttercup.
Can't believe they chanced the iconic M3 into a 4 door and the 4 door into the M3. Not the best marketing. M3 was 2 doors and the M4 was 4 door. Not smart on whomever made this decision. 😁
Maybe the new i4 M50 will do better?
Two speed gearbox solve this problem of top end speed in EV easily
Not worth it for speeds that no one sees on public roads. Porsche did it to make launches consistent which is why it shifts so soon, but 99% of driving will never see a return for the cost and complexity. These EVs do 0 to 60 in under 3.5 seconds easily. ICE cars need launch control to match them.
This is more of a competition to see which of the two is uglier.
came here to post this lol. my god these cars are absolutely atrocious.
Still way better looking than ugly ass new C&E class and boring looking A4/A6 lmao
Luckily the head of design just got the boot at BMW.
Spoke my mind!
@@bondedstars the M4 looks weird, but the M3 G80 is great.
Sometimes i think BMW are doing a huge favour on purpose for cars industry when they made the New 5 Series/ M5 and so, i think they are sacrificing their own car just to save the other cars and brands, like hey look the M5 and 5 Series are not selling and no body like them like they used to be, it failed !!
Just a Small Comment… when You use in race Alfa🍀 put in Manual… not leave in automatic… those people🤦♂️. Will be bit better for Alfa for sure.. making batter the stop before the corner and moving aut. In race auto gear doesn’t work well and this is correct as to Be in Manual usign the beautiful Metal Paddles and not the plastic paddles of the Cadillac
Saw this was a RWD m4 against an xdrive EV and didn’t bother watching
Drivers who don't have access to everything on the i5😂😂😂😂
2 very different driver skills
"battle of batteries vs gas" and *TYRES*, clearly
The i5 is over 2.3 tonnes, even the M3 „Competition“ is 1.8 tonnes.
BMW has lost it.
AWD is an unfair advantage!
2 nice but unreliable bmw’s , maybe one day performance oriented BMW’s will last 100k miles without multiple issues and ALOT of depreciation 😅
Maybe get a M4 Xdrive…. RWD M4 is so base
503HP? Sure 🤔
Seriously get an x-drive for the love of God.
What an ICE, who needs stupid boost?
I5 is a dog. Let's see the new M3P against the M4 Comp
Propaganda
So True, it's Rubbish 😂.. Thanks for saying that
Put a Tesla model s plaid up against something.
A few pointless notes:
-they should have used the xDrive M4 but I don’t blame Edmunds. They can only access the cars in BMW’s review fleet, that’s on BMW for not making the AWD car available.
-I am still shocked at how ugly modern BMWs are. I don’t care about the cope from auto journalists (“IT GROWS ON YOU!!!!”), the front of the G80/G82 M cars is totally unacceptable. The i5 I looks terrible. BMW should fire their design chief and beg Albert Biermann to unretire and come back.
-just as shocking as the appalling exteriors is how much modern BMWs weigh. The entire performance car world (particularly in the EU) laughed in 2008 at the GT-R’s kerb weight but now every European car is at or over 2 tonnes. I get that batteries weigh a lot but it is completely unacceptable that the G90 M5 weighs more than a F-150.
Why is he always making all those goofy ass squeals?