No, it doesn't. It's lazy and would seriously piss a LOT of fans off. We haven't seen him back on the big screen, let alone use his new powers, and you're just going to...immediately transfer those powers to someone else? It would be a waste and a slap in the face. But the Russos hate Loki so I wouldn't put it past them to just copy/paste IW.
Loki claimed finally what he’s dreamt of his whole life. There is no more character for us to explore other than what this new found position means, which will be showcased in doomsday before he gets killed. Remember, secret wars can only happen if Doom kills and takes the powers of omnipotent characters, to then create battle world with universe creating powers. Loki is one of those beings now in the mcu. In terms of story telling, this always happens. When a character’s story is fulfilled, they usually die or retire.
@@baker47100 Problem is, none of his development has been explored yet, and the development he had happened off screen (relegated to D+). It would be a jarring waste for the gen audiences to bring him back and immediately kill him again. Hell, he never even got to interact with other MCU characters or use his new powers before being confined to a tree. It's like they don't know how to handle a post-redemption Loki, other than to kill/sideline him. There was really no reason he needed to be a damn tree at the end. At least the leak is probably BS, but Marvel's track record with fumbling character arcs at the last minute by skipping the payoff is pretty established at this point.
I've heard so many "leaks" of the original Kang plan and now this Doom plan leaks. Honestly i think if done right, it will blow infinity war and end game out of the water.
@@ChannelZeroXbecuase if infinity war and endgame were big, and secret wars is directed by the same people, Russo brothers, then what’s not to say they can’t direct movies doomsday and secret wars as good if not better than infinity war and endgame
Doom absorbs Loki power... I really don't want too either... But no worries Slive shall have the final blow.. Lol Would be interesting tho lol ... Slive getting to kill OP villians like Kang or maybe DOOM.
I hope they don't get rid of Loki! He's so much better than Thor right now. I hope we get a recast T'challa as Aldi's Hogde! One of the X-Men... STORM 👑🌹❗
The only non believable thing is Loki dying. They aren’t going to kill him twice like that. Grant you I think doom will end up on that thrown, but not with Loki Dying. I think he will just defeat him.
The Russos don't like the character; they gloated about killing him and then spent the last few years bitching about his show. Don't put it past them. This is exactly why Loki fans didn't want them involved.
Yeah everyone seems to argue for loki not dying just get defeated and hurt but not killed he needs to be apart of the huge team scene they show this time and of course the characters can actually die because they will be back as their variants in battleworld
@@Chief-E Endgame. I couldn't wait for every MARVEL movie leading up to it. After Endgame, I did enjoy Guardians 3 and Dr Strange 2, but I hated Eternals and Black Panther 2 and Thor 3. I didn't even watch the other films.
Yeah build the character up to have him killed off again, By another main villain. I don't understand that. Unless they used Loki to get rid of Kang? I dunno man.. I'll stick to buying the comics. Anybody have any good recommendations?
@ then he shouldnt use click bait titles that imply its fact. And regardless, its obviously completely false and conjecture. 🤷♀️🤦🏼♀️ So take that with a grain of stfu
Your montage guy is always on point, love you guys’ stuff. Cool leak, yes fairly generic, but a nice review of common plot directions. Good one to bring up!
Doom doesn't want Chavez because she's an anchor being...she can hop the multiverse and there's only one of her...and she's currently living on 616...pay attention.
I’m all for new storylines that tie up ribbons and and phases so I really just hope that bringing back our DJ to play the part of doom pans out and plays out very well.
Absolutely excited to see future Marvel content but stressed out to have missed Xmen97 finale however relieved to have been able to catch Deadpool & Wolverine.
I am having trouble buying into anchor beings 🤷♂️ How did each universe exist before they were born? Or, is the whole point of each universe the arrival and eventual death of one being? It's just alot. I mean, eventually everyone dies.
yeah, like please explain the mechanism by which the perpetuation of an entire universe is contingent upon one person (who in most universes is probably on Earth). it reeks of sloppy, lazy writing
I think it's very important that any of the upcoming movies don't seem to be like anything after End Game IMO. Everything before end game is what attracted people and everything after is what chased them away.
I just want fans to get a false hope with a returning Thanos seemingly here to help The Young Avengers in AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY but to have Dr. Doom then in Secret Wars rip Thanos's bones clean outta his body like it was nothing.
Only thing they forgot is the Spiderman storyline between him and Doom and how Spiderman is the anchor being for the 616 and how Doom makes a deal with Spiderman
I would rather Loki not die again so I'm gonna call bs. Ripped off his throne and sent back to Earth or something...ok. Save him to sit back atop his throne after Doom is handled... Yes. If marvel kills Loki again I'm going to lose it. Lol
Anchor being is a nice concept. It's like the movies takes place in a different universe and the anchor being is the main character that makes that universe important. It makes it easier for writers to make their own story and not worry about loose ends.
Remember in endgame Tony’s dad told him how far along his mother was during her pregnancy, watch Tony’s look of confusion. The dates didn’t add up. Tony’s mom had a miscarriage. And I believe he was adopted from Sokovia, might be why he was so distraught when they destroyed it in Age of Ultron. Also in Endgame when Tony discovered how to time travel he told Steve’ “Time fights back.” They never revealed where he went. They left that out and left it open for interpretation. In Moon Knight where he got his jaw broken, you see a castle in the background, which I believe is Doomsdadt. In the comics Doom was always a step ahead. That’s why the Russo’s said he’s Victor Von Doom and Downey said,”same mask different task. I think he planned everything and He’s been there from the beginning.
I'm not sure I fully understand you're point so correct me if I'm wrong, but are you suggesting that in Endgame, Tony went back in time to save his mother's baby and thus created an alternate timeline where he was never adopted and therefore became Doctor Doom? But if he was confused by the dates not adding up in Endgame during their time heist then how would he know before the time heist to go back in time to save his mother's baby or would he have already known about the miscarriage prior to the events of Endgame? And also, would that mean that by the events of Moon Knight, Doctor Doom had already crossed universes/timelines to conquer Latveria/Sokovia of 616?
Can’t wait for this film. I’m not really listening to any “plot leaks” until I actually sit down and the watch the movie. Too many leaks from people who just want attention.
Marvel should had just stick with Kang, they could have just recast and continue his story, would have been a good story line then after Kang they could have done a Dr Doom storyline
@@ilovezoom37191 bad antman movie is not a fumble. Loki season 2 still had enough interest to continue kang’s story and weave the stories together, including Deadpool 3 with the void
@@elroyhoyabembe4828 still didn’t get enough people to care again and yes that bad Antman film did ruin him how’s he supposed to be an Avengers level threat when ants can put up a fight with him
🤨 not sure but can’t wait to see how these storylines play out…Dr. Strange, Dr. Doom, Blade, X-Men, Hulk, Ross’ Red Hulk, The changes in The Avengers roster 🤔
The only thing id put any weight into is the end of Loki and Doom taking his place. Dr Strange/America Chavez as central figures as well. This also sets up Thor to be spun off and come back as Rune King Thor..IT HAPPENING!!!!
Only thing I want to see happen at the end of Doomsday is for Doom to be revealed to have Tony's face, causes Spiderman to let his guard down and gets stabbed by Doom Spiderman: "Tony?" DR.DOOM STABS PETER A FATAL BLOW Dr. Doom: "°There is no Tony, only...DOOM" SPIDERMAN DIES POST CREDIT SCENE: SYMBIOTE FORMS TO PETER SAVING HIS LIFE. Spiderman 4 is a new reality in New York with him having the symbiote. Battle world is simply the Earth divided into different timelines/universes. Peter's story happens in New York but it's not the same as it was in the MCU prior , but it's close.
Plot Leak starts at 2:06
thanks cause I hate sitting thur that intro
hero
Let’s be real, does it even start?
Yeah there's no plot leaks man this is just one guy's opinion on what he thinks might happen in a movie
Love you ❤
killing loki after all the time marvel has invested in him with the loki show doesn't make sense.
No, it doesn't. It's lazy and would seriously piss a LOT of fans off. We haven't seen him back on the big screen, let alone use his new powers, and you're just going to...immediately transfer those powers to someone else? It would be a waste and a slap in the face. But the Russos hate Loki so I wouldn't put it past them to just copy/paste IW.
Loki claimed finally what he’s dreamt of his whole life. There is no more character for us to explore other than what this new found position means, which will be showcased in doomsday before he gets killed. Remember, secret wars can only happen if Doom kills and takes the powers of omnipotent characters, to then create battle world with universe creating powers. Loki is one of those beings now in the mcu. In terms of story telling, this always happens. When a character’s story is fulfilled, they usually die or retire.
Makes perfect sense, it's literally the most logical way for Doom to takeover the multiverse...
@@baker47100 Problem is, none of his development has been explored yet, and the development he had happened off screen (relegated to D+). It would be a jarring waste for the gen audiences to bring him back and immediately kill him again. Hell, he never even got to interact with other MCU characters or use his new powers before being confined to a tree. It's like they don't know how to handle a post-redemption Loki, other than to kill/sideline him. There was really no reason he needed to be a damn tree at the end.
At least the leak is probably BS, but Marvel's track record with fumbling character arcs at the last minute by skipping the payoff is pretty established at this point.
Really bro? He literally died in every movie anyways 😂
I've heard so many "leaks" of the original Kang plan and now this Doom plan leaks. Honestly i think if done right, it will blow infinity war and end game out of the water.
Why?
@@ChannelZeroXbecuase if infinity war and endgame were big, and secret wars is directed by the same people, Russo brothers, then what’s not to say they can’t direct movies doomsday and secret wars as good if not better than infinity war and endgame
@UperSuperHer02007 It will be awesome if they do turn out even better, I was just wondering why you thought they'd be likely to be.
There will never be anything that tops Infinity war/ Endgame.
Sure...a full leak for a film still in active development... 🙄 Come on, people, let's be logical for a second.
There's no way they will kill Loki... He's the god of stories now... He's holding together the multiverse... No way!
If Loki’s dying again… We know why Thor was crying in Deadpool. Foreshadow he’s gonna watch him die once more by Doom :)
we might find out why was thor crying!
@@nitrozconceptsthe biggest question in all of Marvel
i’m taking this with a grain of salt because it not confirmed, but it makes sense that loki will die… but i don’t want him to
Doom absorbs Loki power...
I really don't want too either... But no worries Slive shall have the final blow.. Lol Would be interesting tho lol ... Slive getting to kill OP villians like Kang or maybe DOOM.
@@josuefbonilla1197the kang dynasty had a similar plot point but also he died in infinity war be kind of weird to kill him again
@@josuefbonilla1197 Problem is, people want to see Loki, not Sylvie without Loki.
I hope they don't get rid of Loki! He's so much better than Thor right now. I hope we get a recast T'challa as Aldi's Hogde! One of the X-Men... STORM 👑🌹❗
NO! Don't kill Loki! Not without giving us main timeline one back!
At least let God Loki "inhabit" and revive OG Loki, probably floating in space. They have got to know killing him again would cause riots 🙄
It is the main timeline Loki!!!
@@quicksilver212god Loki in the Loki series is the OG Loki!!!
Well good thing is this guy is talking out of his ass and has no idea the details of a movie that hasn't even been made yet
@@efficientlunacy1748 He's not the dead one, no.
The only non believable thing is Loki dying. They aren’t going to kill him twice like that. Grant you I think doom will end up on that thrown, but not with Loki Dying. I think he will just defeat him.
The Russos don't like the character; they gloated about killing him and then spent the last few years bitching about his show. Don't put it past them. This is exactly why Loki fans didn't want them involved.
Deadpool and wolverine was good
Yeah everyone seems to argue for loki not dying just get defeated and hurt but not killed he needs to be apart of the huge team scene they show this time and of course the characters can actually die because they will be back as their variants in battleworld
The one thing that seems very unlikely would be Loki's death, given all the depth they've given him with his show
I swear if they kill off Loki I'm breaking my theatre seat loll
That would be a childish stupid thing to do
I'd love to be excited for a MARVEL movie again. It feel like forever.
What was the last Marvel project you were excited about?
@@Chief-E Endgame. I couldn't wait for every MARVEL movie leading up to it. After Endgame, I did enjoy Guardians 3 and Dr Strange 2, but I hated Eternals and Black Panther 2 and Thor 3. I didn't even watch the other films.
@@msteele0Shang chi is great you should def watch it
Oh, can't wait to see if this is right! I need to finish Loki S2
😵you haven’t finished season two yet! You gotta, the end is amazingly good. One of the best MCU projects ever!
Thank you Michael! ALL FIRES 🔥!!! And merry Christmas 🎄!!!
If any of that it's true, the Avengers Dooms Day is gonna be tough. I know they gonna have that movie laid out. Cant wait either way.Lets Go💯💯💯✌🏾
This movie is a terrible idea. Marvel will lose more fans than they already have many iron Man the new doom.
Loki can't catch a break 😂
Sick of everyone killing loki all the time!!!!😠
He made his choice...
Poor Loki, always getting killed! I suspect he will see it coming.
They kill Loki, I walk out of the theater. We’ve already seen that death…several times. Loki STAYS.
Yeah build the character up to have him killed off again, By another main villain. I don't understand that. Unless they used Loki to get rid of Kang? I dunno man.. I'll stick to buying the comics. Anybody have any good recommendations?
@Disc_golfing_baker superman beyond 3d is a great read not marvel tho lol
The plot has not leaked. Stop it. Just stop. They havent even written it yet.. ffs
He literally said take it with a grain of salt….
Thank you!
@@martinrodriguez4150 He perpetuates lies.
@ then he shouldnt use click bait titles that imply its fact. And regardless, its obviously completely false and conjecture. 🤷♀️🤦🏼♀️
So take that with a grain of stfu
It's literally being written right now. Bits can be leaked and stories can be changed.
Strange can go for me, but Loki is a main character
Thanks for the great work
Im really excited for this movie! I think the Dr. Doom path is way better than Kang was ever going to be.
Your montage guy is always on point, love you guys’ stuff. Cool leak, yes fairly generic, but a nice review of common plot directions.
Good one to bring up!
I hope they don’t screw Loki over
i feel like if they kill loki off in doomsday it would be kind of a waste.
Alright can we stop killing Loki tho holy 😭
Not true. America Chavez is not part of Earth 616 so she isn’t the anchor being . Strange can’t die cause they confirmed Doctor Strange 3
Doom doesn't want Chavez because she's an anchor being...she can hop the multiverse and there's only one of her...and she's currently living on 616...pay attention.
god of wark Kratos vs spider man in the mcu in 2025 today now yes yes yes yes 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
I’m all for new storylines that tie up ribbons and and phases so I really just hope that bringing back our DJ to play the part of doom pans out and plays out very well.
I agree that Loki might die being that he’s “destined to lose” but don’t want him to, don’t hate this plot leak generally though
Absolutely excited to see future Marvel content but stressed out to have missed Xmen97 finale however relieved to have been able to catch Deadpool & Wolverine.
I am having trouble buying into anchor beings 🤷♂️ How did each universe exist before they were born? Or, is the whole point of each universe the arrival and eventual death of one being? It's just alot. I mean, eventually everyone dies.
yeah, like please explain the mechanism by which the perpetuation of an entire universe is contingent upon one person (who in most universes is probably on Earth). it reeks of sloppy, lazy writing
I always look forward to seeing if there's anything about these leaks that actually end up being accurate in the actual movie.
How are you going to be able to kill the guy who can literally stop time with his finger?
If they kill Loki I'll be totally through with Marvel. They finally have him as a hero. Thats BS.
Love your work man, keep it up! And thank you for everything always, Everything Always!
loki dies again? naw fk that
Frfr like they making him like Fish Mooney off Gotham.
Thanks for the update
Loki using his new powers trying to stop Doom makes sense and shows Loki's power. Having Doom still beat Loki shows how powerful he is.
Good video. Thanks.
Awesome video
Would be sad to see both Loki and strange die
Avengers Doomsday finna be 🔥
I think it's very important that any of the upcoming movies don't seem to be like anything after End Game IMO. Everything before end game is what attracted people and everything after is what chased them away.
All sounds very reasonable. Crank it up for the next phase!
Hope the part about killing Loki is false if any of this is true.
If they kill off Loki, how are he and Thor supposed to reunite?
In Valhalla, duh
I don't believe this is real, and I hope marvel reunite loki and thor at least before they kill loki 😅
I enjoy these thought experiments. All the possibilities are great to talk about
Please don't stop... bringing back Loki
I just want fans to get a false hope with a returning Thanos seemingly here to help The Young Avengers in AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY but to have Dr. Doom then in Secret Wars rip Thanos's bones clean outta his body like it was nothing.
I can't wait
Excited for the marvel hype!
Sounds good I don’t know if I wanna watch Loki die again 😂
Yo Michael, keep up the good work. We'll see what happens.
I wonder how far they could implement America Chaves into the what if series episode
Love the video
wow, I'm never this early. great content as always
I swear if Loki actually dies I’m going to be pissed
Super expectations for Doomsday. This will be excellent. Even more excited for Secret Wars soon too
Love your content
I think this is awesome and I can't wait 👍🎉🎈
I don’t see them killing off Loki.
Interesting, I find it very broad/generalized and having good points but I’ll be curious to see how they actually put this film together
will be interesting to see how much turns out to be right
I can't wait for Doomsday and Secret Wars
Only thing they forgot is the Spiderman storyline between him and Doom and how Spiderman is the anchor being for the 616 and how Doom makes a deal with Spiderman
I would rather Loki not die again so I'm gonna call bs. Ripped off his throne and sent back to Earth or something...ok. Save him to sit back atop his throne after Doom is handled... Yes. If marvel kills Loki again I'm going to lose it. Lol
Anchor being is a nice concept. It's like the movies takes place in a different universe and the anchor being is the main character that makes that universe important. It makes it easier for writers to make their own story and not worry about loose ends.
I’ve been rocking with Everything Always for about 4 years and this in my opinion is the best source for Marvel News.
Thanks!!
Interesting indeed, I wonder how close to the original comic plot it'll end up becoming. Keen to see how this develops!
Interesting plot, I wonder how it may change by the time it gets to theaters.
Remember in endgame Tony’s dad told him how far along his mother was during her pregnancy, watch Tony’s look of confusion. The dates didn’t add up. Tony’s mom had a miscarriage. And I believe he was adopted from Sokovia, might be why he was so distraught when they destroyed it in Age of Ultron. Also in Endgame when Tony discovered how to time travel he told Steve’ “Time fights back.” They never revealed where he went. They left that out and left it open for interpretation. In Moon Knight where he got his jaw broken, you see a castle in the background, which I believe is Doomsdadt. In the comics Doom was always a step ahead. That’s why the Russo’s said he’s Victor Von Doom and Downey said,”same mask different task. I think he planned everything and He’s been there from the beginning.
I'm not sure I fully understand you're point so correct me if I'm wrong, but are you suggesting that in Endgame, Tony went back in time to save his mother's baby and thus created an alternate timeline where he was never adopted and therefore became Doctor Doom? But if he was confused by the dates not adding up in Endgame during their time heist then how would he know before the time heist to go back in time to save his mother's baby or would he have already known about the miscarriage prior to the events of Endgame? And also, would that mean that by the events of Moon Knight, Doctor Doom had already crossed universes/timelines to conquer Latveria/Sokovia of 616?
Damn could be , maybe just a variant , in his world Tony's parents pass sooner, and he is adopted by the Von Dooms
@ a variant is a cop out.
@DeSheaShavers What the MCU has been showing us for years
Love your breakdowns
I agree as fan I can easily come up with a similar theory
This is the most credible leak I've seen. Makes so much sense.
Very excited to see how the Doom story unfolds.
I think you're on point by essentially saying - Probable? Yes. Believable? Maybe, probably not.
Do you think Doctor Doom will appear in the future of the MCU but not RDJ an actual Doom in the 616 universe
I'm not ready to lose Tom Hiddleston in the MCU.. But I understand how Doom killing Loki can tie everything together 😢
STANE: Killing Loki really tied the room together man!😹
I'd enjoy this described plot as an MCU movie... Though I agree that one could have assumed most of it from the films that have previously been made.
Killing Loki....AGAIN? haha
Yea it makes sense and I’m sure it’s going to be very similar to this
I'm calling it. Beast, Wolverine and Quicksilver.
Good stuff Michael
Can’t wait for this film. I’m not really listening to any “plot leaks” until I actually sit down and the watch the movie. Too many leaks from people who just want attention.
Some very interesting points in this but think it's a push to think this is a full leak when it's not fully written yet
Marvel should had just stick with Kang, they could have just recast and continue his story, would have been a good story line then after Kang they could have done a Dr Doom storyline
🤦♂️ still complaining about that even tho they had already fumbled him
☝️facts!
@@ilovezoom37191 bad antman movie is not a fumble. Loki season 2 still had enough interest to continue kang’s story and weave the stories together, including Deadpool 3 with the void
No one cares about Kang tho.
@@elroyhoyabembe4828 still didn’t get enough people to care again and yes that bad Antman film did ruin him how’s he supposed to be an Avengers level threat when ants can put up a fight with him
Sounds dull compared to the Kang Dynasty script leak we had the other day which seemed very real
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That's BS...I haven't heard a Kang "plot leak" that didn't sound lame and boring.
I do love hearing a great plot theory and thinking that.l be hard to beat as a story😊
🤨 not sure but can’t wait to see how these storylines play out…Dr. Strange, Dr. Doom, Blade, X-Men, Hulk, Ross’ Red Hulk, The changes in The Avengers roster 🤔
brand new god of war Kratos in the mcu in 2025 today now yes yes yes 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
I'll just take this with a grain of salt, but if true, we know Marvel is going to switch things around.
The only thing id put any weight into is the end of Loki and Doom taking his place. Dr Strange/America Chavez as central figures as well. This also sets up Thor to be spun off and come back as Rune King Thor..IT HAPPENING!!!!
Only thing I want to see happen at the end of Doomsday is for Doom to be revealed to have Tony's face, causes Spiderman to let his guard down and gets stabbed by Doom
Spiderman: "Tony?"
DR.DOOM STABS PETER A FATAL BLOW
Dr. Doom: "°There is no Tony, only...DOOM"
SPIDERMAN DIES
POST CREDIT SCENE: SYMBIOTE FORMS TO PETER SAVING HIS LIFE.
Spiderman 4 is a new reality in New York with him having the symbiote. Battle world is simply the Earth divided into different timelines/universes.
Peter's story happens in New York but it's not the same as it was in the MCU prior , but it's close.