The Spider-Man 4 Reports are finally starting to make sense! How do YOU think they will be pieced together? TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Spider-Man Rumors Finally Make Sense 0:43 The Rumored Ending of Doomsday 1:18 Doom's Plan 2:03 Tobey and Andrew Are Back 3:56 Reading the Cosmic Circus Report 5:47 Things Are Changing Behind the Scenes 6:39 Sony Wants a Nostalgic Team Up 7:55 How Knull Fits In 10:33 How Mephisto and Ghost Rider Fit In 13:50 Doom's Lieutenants 15:00 Have an Awesome and a Nerdy Day
Josh, buddy... none of Deadpool and Wolverine took place in 616, except for the Happy interview. The entire film is in the Void and Deadpool goes back to his original universe he saved at the end
@@DrZionY THANK YOU. What are these RUclipsrs talking about? The writer and director of Loki said 3 years ago there are multiple trees and sometimes the branches of the trees create branches to the other trees . The Fox universe is whole other tree that’s just effed up from all the timeline shenanigans that occurred in that universe . The only other times Deadpool left the Fox tree was when he met Henry Cavil Wolverine and the small Wolverine as they are vastly different interpretations of the character and he used the Temp pad to do that. Everything else takes place in the void or the Fox tree.
@@DrZionY it’s like these guys don’t listen to the dialogue or really pay attention. They just skim through it and pick out things to make videos about .
We are the dunces. We keep coming back for rumor on rumor from “very credible sources”, with no real payoff. Right or wrong, they just keep coming with no real editorials or track record keeping. Blaming myself
Remember when Mobius told Loki that he was the agent who couldn't kill the 8-year old kid near the Black Sea, and within minutes all of these variants of the kid were destroying the entire Universe? Dr Doom is from a small country by the Black Sea called Latveria. Also, Kang sadly teases Loki about his desire to create a kind of Multiversal Super Avengers who will fight for him in the upcoming Multiversal War, which from Kang's perspective already happened yet Loki can't break free from the loop "I know Champ". Now, let's go to the comics, where Reed Richards from Earth 6160 is Dr. Doom. AND HE IS THE MAKER, who manipulates Richards, Doom, Tony Stark and Kang, who is said to be the predecessor of all of these, meaning Mr. Fantastic, Doom, Iron Man and even the Maker are all variants of Kang, who is a variant of them. It's complicated stuff! In Ultimate Invasion we see Richards recruit Howard Stark to help build the Immortus Engine, the device that will ensure his eternal rule over their dimension. But The Maker is opposed by two key figures. Which is weird because The Maker is basically Reed Richards who is Doom, yet The Maker keeps Richards as a hostage forever, so Mr Fantastic can't take over the entire Universe. Howard Stark and Reed Richards were trying to stop the Multiversal War with the creation of the Immortus Engine, but The Maker got ahold of it and pulled a Kang - taking over the Multiversal reality himself. I will say no more, but this is in the comics: Doom, Richards, Stark, Kang, Maker ... they are all related to each other in bizarre ways, and they are all trying to take over the Universe to save it from the other variants of themselves. And most of these characters have a kind of Congress comprised of their own variants where they meet with and help each other. I'm 1000% certain that this is the story line that Marvel has been bringing along.
Yeah. Honestly the one MCU Film I'm excited for is Thunderbolts just for the fact that nobody's talking about it. Nobody's throwing around these crazy leaks or rumors left right and center. I'm excited to go have a good time with that team and be surprised with what goes down.
youtube deleted my comment about how the Marvel multi-universe works and i dont feel like typing it again. Basically there is a Fox tree, A Sony tree, The MCU aka the 616 tree, The 838 etc . its bigger than just branches of one tree. its an infinite amount of trees (multiverses) and an infinite amount of branches(timelines) . Only America Chavez can cross trees without risking incursions. Simple
No my dude, the yggdrasil from the end of loki season 2 is the whole marvel films/cartoons/ media multiverse, the multiverse from the comics is the one that is different and that could be wrong because earth 1999999 which is the official comics designation for the mcu has appeared in the comics too
@ is that so? Explain your theory or tell me where you got that info from because everything I’ve seen says there are multiple trees. The damn creators said it themselves 3 years ago. The writers and director of Loki season 1 said it . Mike Waldren who is sheparding the whole saga said it 3 years ago. HWR showed us in season 1. Kang showed us in Qunatumania. Smh
“Time fights back,” that’s what Stark told Steve when he figured out time travel in Endgame. They never said where he went. I’m shocked no one caught that.
I've wondered that as well. The only explanation is Tony tested his invention first to come to that conclusion. After all, it fits into his psyche. Remember in the first Iron Man, he decided to fly instead of walk?
That and the fact that he figured out time travel so fast and abruptly. Never sat well with me. I know it was because endgame was jam packed and they needed to move the plot along but I feel it could be retconned into something else. Maybe some larger forces played a hand in him figuring it out. Similar to how he who remains gave a young victor timely the tva book for him to begin his time travel journey in Loki s2
I’m just curious now, because it’s teetering between being wide scale vs grounded. Unless this movie is 4 hours long or super super packed I don’t see how all this works together. Tom also cares so much about this being perfect unless he’s not fully on board will make the lead up interesting
honestly the more of these updates and rumors i hear, the less hyped i get for this movie. it sounds like it just becoming an over stuffed, bloated mess, with no continuity. i was so happy a couple weeks ago when i thght sony was gonna let marvel handle the movies. now their wanting to jam knull in there too. he was an afterthought! god i hate sony executives.
When Immortus said "they're beginning to touch the multiverse". He meant everything in general. Sony is doing the multiverse as well, but Marvel wants full control. So what do they do? They let the biggest trickster take full control of the multiverse. The trickster being Kevin Fiegi. This means the character who broke reality is Spiderman, that's when He Who Remains heard the thunder. ALL of Spiderman's villains were in the scene. But what if, there is an alternate reality where Dr. Doom and his buddies are some kinda sinister six or dark avengers?
they must’ve exiled DOOM and wiped all memories of DOOM from all timelines. Every newer Spidey movie is a link to DOOM and they'll combine universes using green magick(time/earth). The frozen villains from FFH is still a huge clue for me
I just saw an article about Keanu Reaves playing Ghost Rider which after playing John Wick or the deadliest assassin on Earth would be an amazing and obvious choice!
What if RDJ Doom actually Creates 1 singular Universe, with multiple if not numerous, Planet Earths, for whatever particular reason would make Storyline sense... Tying together some of the leaks at the same time
ultimately I think some of these ideas work better than others but the movie is sounding really confusing at this point. I like a lot of your ideas and I would be down to see Mephisto in this movie if it was done right. RDJ as Doom is still a hard sell for me and It's really hard to get behind that. However One thing about this premise that would be great is if it could be more like old school Spider-man & Doom in the early comics that would be awesome. Anyways I appreciate your passion for your ideas and your attempts to make sense of all this. Thank you for doing what you do. This is still a good overview of potential ideas for the film even if I don't agree with all your points.
Seriously though... Knull dictates a multi presentation Movies Set. Power, Threat Semantics plus Storyline. So that just cannot be approached or applied incorrectly. Would break that whole Aspect Focus
Knull would be a horrible mistake. I don’t trust Feige but he definitely won’t let a Sony underwhelming villain we have seen only for 3 seconds be the antagonist of the next Spider-Man film.
Out of all the 60+ years of stories in all the Spider-Man series, the hated ONE MORE DAY story is going to be the basis for a multimillion dollar motion picture? Nope. No way are they doing that.
Im telling you Dr Doom is setting up a "Sinister Six" type of team with Dr Doom, Ultron, Thanos, Scarlett Witch, Knull, and 1 more character of course idk but it seems that way since all the rumors and also Dr Doom is the Thanos to Ironman, and the Ironman is Tom's Spider-Man because apparently Tom H is the "new face" of the MCU
Totally Makes sense. Sacha Baron Cohen was Cast as Mephisto waaaaaaay back when ironheart was under production. I guarantee hes in spiderman 4 and Ghost rider is going to help Spiderman get to meet him. But i definitely dont think Mephisto is main villain, i tend to think Mephisto is just going to continue to warn Spiderman that hes making deals/sacrifices that he can not walk back
never understood why everyone is so happy about leaks... its not cool imagine if the varder was his father was leaked back then.... could be a magical movie if we didnt know
Knull will look like a terrifying boss, things will look bad. Suddenly op Doom will show up and obliterate Knull in epic fashion taking his position as the big bad.
This like my dream journal as a kid. LOL they were like crazy movie plot lines. In the dream there was a movie poster of spider- man, but with 3 of them. Glass broke and revealed Peter’s face but no one knew him; except the devil. The night sky lost the light and crude oil poured out like thick blood from the movie poster. There was a full moon and something crush on it and; such would happen on St. Peter’s feast day. Odysseus. Homer’s odyssey. Would make spider man to tired to work; as no one; who works is allowed to sit on a chair. Strange dream. Just like these rumours.
If they would just let the @denofnerds write,produce,and pick the actors I would have faith it would be a block buster because your comic book knowledge and imagination are top tier.
Maybe a reverse one more day plot. That would be awesome Peter trying to reconcile his relationships and it's more likely Mephisto did it just to watch the chaos in ruining Peter's life.
all of these ideas and so many characters involved sounds like it would take way too long to make happen right, so I think I'll be dead by the time this releases. They're insane if they think they can make this work efficiently before we're all dust
Could they maybe have Spider-Man instead also meet Ben affleck’s daredevil to familiarise him with an ally for when the universe is reset and Peter finds out who daredevil is, and goes to look for him to recruit his help as Fisk becomes a bigger threat post secret wars. You then get the Sony and Fox characters converge in secret wars. Then we need deadpool and Spider-Man as seperate film with the other 2 Spider-Men, and jackman and Tobey and other characters and this is where multiverse films stay. To revisit legacy characters or other one-off stories/trilogies But ofc deadpool himself could now live within the mcu as it would be reset likely with his friends existing (including x-23)
It would be great if they reveal Dr. Strange in Spiderman NWH was Actually Mephisto and the concept of wanting warping reality is morally corrupt and in asking a wizard to do so he was unwittingly making a deal with the demon as the request and warping reality in general is blasphemous.
I would love to see mofisto. But I heard long time ago we won’t have mofisto because china wont show a movie with the devil in it.. I’m probably wrong… Keanu as blaze or mofisto. I’ll watch
for something of a paralell re knull working for doom: in the current lore of Marvel Rivals, doom is kinda manipulating knull to infect bast and other wakandan gods for some purpose, maybe mcu doom will be pulling the strings on knull towards some larger goal 🤔
wait for the multiverse burnout. they should not use tobey and andrew again. they shouldnt even make another spider-man movie. i think it ended pretty well. they should just save everything for secret wars and secret wars can be like 3 part movie.
If Doom consolidates the Multiverse into one world, that makes Knulls job a lot easier because technically all symbiotes and their hosts across the Multiverse now exist in a single timeline - but he would still need to come to the location of the aforementioned codex created or existing in Venom. 3.
All of this sounds like a overt convoluted mess! RDJ is a great actor, but isn’t the right fit for Doom. Think about it. They cast him as a guy that never takes his helmet/face plate off. Doom never shows his face yet they cast a guy that always wants to show his face. To me Marvel hasn’t made money since Deadpool Wolverine and all these are just desperation to get people in the movie theater. I think myself and many others are not as invested with Marvel anymore because the stories have been so terrible.
No okay look, the only thing you said right is that people are falling out… because you guys aren’t paying attention. Then will criticize marvel for doing shit they should be doing lol the multiverse and time travel IS convoluted comics are convoluted it’s in its DNA. Stories like this are literally adapted from the comics and are just like the comics. Pick up a comic, watch a RUclips video about Johnathan Hickmans Secret Wars comic, then come back and tell us how u feel.
I would rather have MJ be a Firestar variant and introduce Iceman to the MCU. They can fight Swarm who was a fellow student and totally scrap the Knull storyline.
This sounds like such a mess and I'm concerned how Marvel is going to pull this off with more of Sony's rushed out of touch decisions. Sony should just leave the movie decisions to Marvel and count the money they make off it. You'd think a studio like Sony would realize they can make so much more if they just shut up and let Marvel do the heavy lifting for them. I want this to be good but I am unsure if adding Knull & Mephisto would help the larger Doctor Doom Avengers story. It seems a little too much for a No way Home follow up. Idk, there's a lot going against this movie it seems with it being after Doomsday. I've had enough of Sony's BS
None of this is true, my friend. Sony really needs to give up the Spider-Man rights completely, because Marvel Studios and Marvel Cinematic Universe are there, and we don’t need Sony anymore. Sony needs to cancel its non-MCU Marvel stuff, too. It’s for its own good. Good thing that I heard rumors where Disney , Apple, or Amazon is planning to buy Sony Pictures to make it let go of the Spider-Man rights completely. It’s quite possible because it is said that whatever company buys SP will cause the SM rights to go back to Marvel Studios completely. I pray that this is true for the MCU’s and Spider-Man’s sakes.🙏 It’s all over the Internet. We can’t just stand here and do nothing. We have to help Disney and MS, as we must do petitions. They are much better than Sony. Seriously. #HelpMarvelStudiosgettheSpiderManrightsbackcompletely Spider-Man 4 should be delayed because of this.
I think it would be cool if knull came for TOBYS peter parker because the symbiote bonds with him again.... ANDREW AND TOM (SPIDERMEN) ALSO BOND WITH VENOM SYMBIOTE throughout the movie TO run from KNULL........ I think MEPHISTO SENDS THE GHOSTRIDER TO KILL KNULL SO MEPHISTO CAN RULE OVER ALL OF THE DARKNESS..... KNULL KILLS NICHOLAS CAGE GHOSTRIDER.............. MEPHISTO NEEDS A NEW RIDER...... HE CHOOSES KEANU REEVES...... THIS GHOST RIDER TEAMED WITH MEPHISTO AND THE SPIDERMEN FIGHT KNULL AND THEY ALMOST BEAT HIM..... RDJ IS REVEALED AS REBUM ALAH AND IS THE ONE COMMANDING KNULL TO DESTROY THE SPIDER VERSES............ WHICH DOOM SAYS...... I'LL DO IT MYSELF....JUST LIKE THANOS.................
This multiverse shit has to end. Let the past characters be gone and focus on the central characters. I don’t need 12 different Spider-Man’s, 2 ghost riders, 17 Reed Richard’s. Just stick to the new guys and make something good enough to where we don’t need to think about the past
Anyone who says this is not a marvel comics fan. Anyone who says this doesn’t get what the fuck they are even trying to criticize. My guy THIS IS COMIC BOOKS the multiverse isn’t just a made up concept to sell movies. These movies are ADAPTATIONS OF BOOKS. In those books the multiverse has been a thing since the beginning and ESPECIALLY with this movie they are making called “Secret Wars” which is a storyline ABOUT the multiverse. We’re in the multiverse saga. You complaining about them doing what they should be doing is only making shit worse
@josephmelloni3826 they don't know comics bro. Those hero team ups are everything 😆 besides, almost everybody live in New York. They're bound to bump into each other
Why do you keep rehashing the same info in twenty different videos? We get it. You don't have to keep going over & over the same thing. (Oh, that's how you make $!) Please! Wait until there is substantial new information & then bring out a new video about this topic, instead of boring us too tears
Why do you keep clicking on videos of you don’t want to watch the videos? And if you know that’s how he makes money then let him do it so he can make money. You’re dumb a$$ doesn’t have to click on the video .
The Spider-Man 4 Reports are finally starting to make sense! How do YOU think they will be pieced together?
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 Spider-Man Rumors Finally Make Sense
0:43 The Rumored Ending of Doomsday
1:18 Doom's Plan
2:03 Tobey and Andrew Are Back
3:56 Reading the Cosmic Circus Report
5:47 Things Are Changing Behind the Scenes
6:39 Sony Wants a Nostalgic Team Up
7:55 How Knull Fits In
10:33 How Mephisto and Ghost Rider Fit In
13:50 Doom's Lieutenants
15:00 Have an Awesome and a Nerdy Day
Josh, buddy... none of Deadpool and Wolverine took place in 616, except for the Happy interview. The entire film is in the Void and Deadpool goes back to his original universe he saved at the end
@@DrZionY THANK YOU. What are these RUclipsrs talking about? The writer and director of Loki said 3 years ago there are multiple trees and sometimes the branches of the trees create branches to the other trees . The Fox universe is whole other tree that’s just effed up from all the timeline shenanigans that occurred in that universe . The only other times Deadpool left the Fox tree was when he met Henry Cavil Wolverine and the small Wolverine as they are vastly different interpretations of the character and he used the Temp pad to do that. Everything else takes place in the void or the Fox tree.
@@DrZionY it’s like these guys don’t listen to the dialogue or really pay attention. They just skim through it and pick out things to make videos about .
That's a non sequitur
Did he think it happened on 616 lol wat the
We are the dunces. We keep coming back for rumor on rumor from “very credible sources”, with no real payoff. Right or wrong, they just keep coming with no real editorials or track record keeping. Blaming myself
Remember when Mobius told Loki that he was the agent who couldn't kill the 8-year old kid near the Black Sea, and within minutes all of these variants of the kid were destroying the entire Universe? Dr Doom is from a small country by the Black Sea called Latveria. Also, Kang sadly teases Loki about his desire to create a kind of Multiversal Super Avengers who will fight for him in the upcoming Multiversal War, which from Kang's perspective already happened yet Loki can't break free from the loop "I know Champ".
Now, let's go to the comics, where Reed Richards from Earth 6160 is Dr. Doom. AND HE IS THE MAKER, who manipulates Richards, Doom, Tony Stark and Kang, who is said to be the predecessor of all of these, meaning Mr. Fantastic, Doom, Iron Man and even the Maker are all variants of Kang, who is a variant of them. It's complicated stuff! In Ultimate Invasion we see Richards recruit Howard Stark to help build the Immortus Engine, the device that will ensure his eternal rule over their dimension. But The Maker is opposed by two key figures. Which is weird because The Maker is basically Reed Richards who is Doom, yet The Maker keeps Richards as a hostage forever, so Mr Fantastic can't take over the entire Universe.
Howard Stark and Reed Richards were trying to stop the Multiversal War with the creation of the Immortus Engine, but The Maker got ahold of it and pulled a Kang - taking over the Multiversal reality himself. I will say no more, but this is in the comics: Doom, Richards, Stark, Kang, Maker ... they are all related to each other in bizarre ways, and they are all trying to take over the Universe to save it from the other variants of themselves. And most of these characters have a kind of Congress comprised of their own variants where they meet with and help each other.
I'm 1000% certain that this is the story line that Marvel has been bringing along.
Back in the day you went to see the movie to see what was about. Nowadays there's no excitement for movies because of all the leaks
100%. Leaker culture really hurt movies
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Yeah. Honestly the one MCU Film I'm excited for is Thunderbolts just for the fact that nobody's talking about it. Nobody's throwing around these crazy leaks or rumors left right and center. I'm excited to go have a good time with that team and be surprised with what goes down.
youtube deleted my comment about how the Marvel multi-universe works and i dont feel like typing it again. Basically there is a Fox tree, A Sony tree, The MCU aka the 616 tree, The 838 etc . its bigger than just branches of one tree. its an infinite amount of trees (multiverses) and an infinite amount of branches(timelines) . Only America Chavez can cross trees without risking incursions. Simple
No my dude, the yggdrasil from the end of loki season 2 is the whole marvel films/cartoons/ media multiverse, the multiverse from the comics is the one that is different and that could be wrong because earth 1999999 which is the official comics designation for the mcu has appeared in the comics too
@ is that so? Explain your theory or tell me where you got that info from because everything I’ve seen says there are multiple trees. The damn creators said it themselves 3 years ago. The writers and director of Loki season 1 said it . Mike Waldren who is sheparding the whole saga said it 3 years ago. HWR showed us in season 1. Kang showed us in Qunatumania. Smh
@ if there is one tree .. explain the stacked universes shown in Loki season 1 finale or the stacked rings Kang showed Janet in Quantumania .
@ if there is one tree explain why we haven’t seen anything but 616 characters in Loki and What If .
You should go watch Mike Waldren and or Kate Herron interview about Loki from years ago because NO.
“Time fights back,” that’s what Stark told Steve when he figured out time travel in Endgame. They never said where he went. I’m shocked no one caught that.
“You mess with time, it tends to mess back.” Been keying on that line for a while. It’s a way of leaving an open string for them to pull later on.
What do you mean where he went. Cap and stark were together the whole heist
I've wondered that as well. The only explanation is Tony tested his invention first to come to that conclusion. After all, it fits into his psyche. Remember in the first Iron Man, he decided to fly instead of walk?
That and the fact that he figured out time travel so fast and abruptly. Never sat well with me. I know it was because endgame was jam packed and they needed to move the plot along but I feel it could be retconned into something else. Maybe some larger forces played a hand in him figuring it out. Similar to how he who remains gave a young victor timely the tva book for him to begin his time travel journey in Loki s2
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I’m just curious now, because it’s teetering between being wide scale vs grounded. Unless this movie is 4 hours long or super super packed I don’t see how all this works together. Tom also cares so much about this being perfect unless he’s not fully on board will make the lead up interesting
I can’t wait to see more of Gambit/Channing Tatum as much as possible!
2:33 Garfield's MCU Spiderman had 13 minutes 24 seconds of screen time, and Maguire's MCU Spiderman had 11 minutes 58 seconds of screen time
I would love to see Keanu Reeves as Ghost Rider!
I’m sick of this shit!
😂😂
This is UNDOUBTEDLY a Sony issue - not a Marvel issue IMO. They've fumbled every. single. Spiderman adjacent film with the exception of Miles Morales
I don't blame you. Feces carries all kinds of crap.
This sounds like trash.
If you are sick of it, stop watching. It's that simple.
honestly the more of these updates and rumors i hear, the less hyped i get for this movie. it sounds like it just becoming an over stuffed, bloated mess, with no continuity. i was so happy a couple weeks ago when i thght sony was gonna let marvel handle the movies. now their wanting to jam knull in there too. he was an afterthought! god i hate sony executives.
If you are getting agitated stay away from the updates and leaks
At least the other 2 Spiderman will remember Hollands character, since the memory of Peter was only erased from his own universe!
Dude this sounds so freaking cool!
No it doesn't
@@rzn2258yes it does
Keanu Reeves should play the Beyonder
Good Fuckn grief🤦🏽♂️. I can’t wait for the reboot so we can move on from all this SLOPPY SHIT
When Immortus said "they're beginning to touch the multiverse". He meant everything in general. Sony is doing the multiverse as well, but Marvel wants full control. So what do they do? They let the biggest trickster take full control of the multiverse. The trickster being Kevin Fiegi. This means the character who broke reality is Spiderman, that's when He Who Remains heard the thunder. ALL of Spiderman's villains were in the scene. But what if, there is an alternate reality where Dr. Doom and his buddies are some kinda sinister six or dark avengers?
Great theory. Imo, Kang heard the Thunder when Wanda became the SW 😉
But hey, I could be wrong 🤷♂️
they must’ve exiled DOOM and wiped all memories of DOOM from all timelines.
Every newer Spidey movie is a link to DOOM and they'll combine universes using green magick(time/earth). The frozen villains from FFH is still a huge clue for me
hope it will be one of the best if not the best Spiderman film we have had
I can only dream about seeing Nicholas cage as ghost rider......the cinema would go crazy
I just saw an article about Keanu Reaves playing Ghost Rider which after playing John Wick or the deadliest assassin on Earth would be an amazing and obvious choice!
For 4 movies!
What if RDJ Doom actually Creates 1 singular Universe, with multiple if not numerous, Planet Earths, for whatever particular reason would make Storyline sense... Tying together some of the leaks at the same time
ultimately I think some of these ideas work better than others but the movie is sounding really confusing at this point. I like a lot of your ideas and I would be down to see Mephisto in this movie if it was done right. RDJ as Doom is still a hard sell for me and It's really hard to get behind that. However One thing about this premise that would be great is if it could be more like old school Spider-man & Doom in the early comics that would be awesome. Anyways I appreciate your passion for your ideas and your attempts to make sense of all this. Thank you for doing what you do. This is still a good overview of potential ideas for the film even if I don't agree with all your points.
How do these rumors come out when the script isn’t finished? I can throw shit at the wall to see if it sticks too!!!!
My vote:
Avengers: Doomsday
Protagonist: V.V.Doom
Antagonist: Knull
I'm starting to feel like everyones cool image concepts of RDJ Dr. Doom is going to make the actual reveal underwhelming.
Seriously though... Knull dictates a multi presentation Movies Set. Power, Threat Semantics plus Storyline. So that just cannot be approached or applied incorrectly. Would break that whole Aspect Focus
Im surprised you havent covered Nerdrotic's Spider man 4 leak
Peter will get the black suit symbiote in Secret Wars. Guaranteed
Knull would be a horrible mistake. I don’t trust Feige but he definitely won’t let a Sony underwhelming villain we have seen only for 3 seconds be the antagonist of the next Spider-Man film.
How many movies will Doctor Doom be the main Villain?!? Fantastic Four, Doomsday, Secret Wars, Spider-Man 4?!?
Doom church is diabolical, yo😅❤
Out of all the 60+ years of stories in all the Spider-Man series, the hated ONE MORE DAY story is going to be the basis for a multimillion dollar motion picture?
Nope. No way are they doing that.
Maybe they can use it to fix Topher Grace Venom
Im telling you Dr Doom is setting up a "Sinister Six" type of team with Dr Doom, Ultron, Thanos, Scarlett Witch, Knull, and 1 more character of course idk but it seems that way since all the rumors and also Dr Doom is the Thanos to Ironman, and the Ironman is Tom's Spider-Man because apparently Tom H is the "new face" of the MCU
Totally Makes sense. Sacha Baron Cohen was Cast as Mephisto waaaaaaay back when ironheart was under production. I guarantee hes in spiderman 4 and Ghost rider is going to help Spiderman get to meet him. But i definitely dont think Mephisto is main villain, i tend to think Mephisto is just going to continue to warn Spiderman that hes making deals/sacrifices that he can not walk back
Ain't no way Mephisto is on Peter's a$$ even in MCU 😭😭😭. Kinda hope he will make the Strange spell completely unbreakable ngl
Nicholas Cage Ghost Rider better return in Doomsday & Secret War's.
No
Member when Scarlet Witch was going to fight Jean Grey in Deadpool 3? Feels like Marvel is putting out fake info again, which I'm on board with.
never understood why everyone is so happy about leaks... its not cool imagine if the varder was his father was leaked back then.... could be a magical movie if we didnt know
Sony gift wrapped Knull for the MCU to use in Venom 3. The control room scene was too similar to Paradox and his control room in DP&WV
Knull will look like a terrifying boss, things will look bad. Suddenly op Doom will show up and obliterate Knull in epic fashion taking his position as the big bad.
This like my dream journal as a kid. LOL they were like crazy movie plot lines. In the dream there was a movie poster of spider- man, but with 3 of them. Glass broke and revealed Peter’s face but no one knew him; except the devil. The night sky lost the light and crude oil poured out like thick blood from the movie poster. There was a full moon and something crush on it and; such would happen on St. Peter’s feast day. Odysseus. Homer’s odyssey. Would make spider man to tired to work; as no one; who works is allowed to sit on a chair. Strange dream. Just like these rumours.
I just want Tom to be the only superhero with no help. Tom is my favorite Spider-Man and I’m tired of them having someone save and/or help him.
What are you on about? Sony always owned the full film rights to Ghost Rider, never Fox! (until Marvel regained it after Sony’s Spirit of Vengeance)
Dr. Doom is gunna get the win. It will end with what seems like a stand still moment and nobody dies.
If they would just let the @denofnerds write,produce,and pick the actors I would have faith it would be a block buster because your comic book knowledge and imagination are top tier.
Ghost rider has to go right this time 🔥
Maybe a reverse one more day plot. That would be awesome Peter trying to reconcile his relationships and it's more likely Mephisto did it just to watch the chaos in ruining Peter's life.
Toby had 30 minutes of screen time,so did Andrew Garfield
I'm calling it now:"Tom Holland's real life brother will be the new Spiderman "!
I think they are going to repurpose part of the Kang script
all of these ideas and so many characters involved sounds like it would take way too long to make happen right, so I think I'll be dead by the time this releases. They're insane if they think they can make this work efficiently before we're all dust
Could they maybe have Spider-Man instead also meet Ben affleck’s daredevil to familiarise him with an ally for when the universe is reset and Peter finds out who daredevil is, and goes to look for him to recruit his help as Fisk becomes a bigger threat post secret wars.
You then get the Sony and Fox characters converge in secret wars.
Then we need deadpool and Spider-Man as seperate film with the other 2 Spider-Men, and jackman and Tobey and other characters and this is where multiverse films stay. To revisit legacy characters or other one-off stories/trilogies
But ofc deadpool himself could now live within the mcu as it would be reset likely with his friends existing (including x-23)
Make Keanu as Danny Ketch, Cage can still be Johnny. Boom! Problem solved.
It would be great if they reveal Dr. Strange in Spiderman NWH was Actually Mephisto and the concept of wanting warping reality is morally corrupt and in asking a wizard to do so he was unwittingly making a deal with the demon as the request and warping reality in general is blasphemous.
I would love to see mofisto. But I heard long time ago we won’t have mofisto because china wont show a movie with the devil in it.. I’m probably wrong… Keanu as blaze or mofisto. I’ll watch
Marvel should just follow the new Ultimate Universe after Secret Wars.
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Its like Josh almost gets it but not quite . The Sony characters exist on the Sony tree seen in Across the Spider Verse .
for something of a paralell re knull working for doom: in the current lore of Marvel Rivals, doom is kinda manipulating knull to infect bast and other wakandan gods for some purpose, maybe mcu doom will be pulling the strings on knull towards some larger goal 🤔
wait for the multiverse burnout. they should not use tobey and andrew again. they shouldnt even make another spider-man movie. i think it ended pretty well.
they should just save everything for secret wars and secret wars can be like 3 part movie.
Peters 1-2-3 back on the attack
Oh snapple
If Doom consolidates the Multiverse into one world, that makes Knulls job a lot easier because technically all symbiotes and their hosts across the Multiverse now exist in a single timeline - but he would still need to come to the location of the aforementioned codex created or existing in Venom. 3.
All of this sounds like a overt convoluted mess! RDJ is a great actor, but isn’t the right fit for Doom. Think about it. They cast him as a guy that never takes his helmet/face plate off. Doom never shows his face yet they cast a guy that always wants to show his face. To me Marvel hasn’t made money since Deadpool Wolverine and all these are just desperation to get people in the movie theater. I think myself and many others are not as invested with Marvel anymore because the stories have been so terrible.
You say that and you’ll be in the theaters on day1 if hype train does its job.
Let Marvel cook..
Of course Marvel hasn't made money since Deadpool and Wolverine. That was the last movie they released.
No okay look, the only thing you said right is that people are falling out… because you guys aren’t paying attention. Then will criticize marvel for doing shit they should be doing lol the multiverse and time travel IS convoluted comics are convoluted it’s in its DNA. Stories like this are literally adapted from the comics and are just like the comics. Pick up a comic, watch a RUclips video about Johnathan Hickmans Secret Wars comic, then come back and tell us how u feel.
Luckily gunns dcu is looking very promising
It sounds like self hyping over specularion to me.
I would rather have MJ be a Firestar variant and introduce Iceman to the MCU. They can fight Swarm who was a fellow student and totally scrap the Knull storyline.
Robert Pattinson should be cast as Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider for Earth-616
It’s not going to top the last Spiderman movie..Please no Nick Cage! I’m curious, are you gonna keep putting out rumors til 2027? 🤣
Marvel is confusing everything with all this multi-verse crap! I wish they would just stop.
Cool
This sounds like such a mess and I'm concerned how Marvel is going to pull this off with more of Sony's rushed out of touch decisions. Sony should just leave the movie decisions to Marvel and count the money they make off it. You'd think a studio like Sony would realize they can make so much more if they just shut up and let Marvel do the heavy lifting for them. I want this to be good but I am unsure if adding Knull & Mephisto would help the larger Doctor Doom Avengers story. It seems a little too much for a No way Home follow up. Idk, there's a lot going against this movie it seems with it being after Doomsday. I've had enough of Sony's BS
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None of this is true, my friend. Sony really needs to give up the Spider-Man rights completely, because Marvel Studios and Marvel Cinematic Universe are there, and we don’t need Sony anymore. Sony needs to cancel its non-MCU Marvel stuff, too. It’s for its own good. Good thing that I heard rumors where Disney , Apple, or Amazon is planning to buy Sony Pictures to make it let go of the Spider-Man rights completely. It’s quite possible because it is said that whatever company buys SP will cause the SM rights to go back to Marvel Studios completely. I pray that this is true for the MCU’s and Spider-Man’s sakes.🙏 It’s all over the Internet. We can’t just stand here and do nothing. We have to help Disney and MS, as we must do petitions. They are much better than Sony. Seriously. #HelpMarvelStudiosgettheSpiderManrightsbackcompletely Spider-Man 4 should be delayed because of this.
This > street level. Go watch the Raimi movies if you want street level
i'm a 53 year old marvel fan.
PLEASE stop saying "new universe."
you're killin' me with bad flashbacks.
Denny Nerdmas, Josh! N4L
I think it would be cool if knull came for TOBYS peter parker because the symbiote bonds with him again....
ANDREW AND TOM (SPIDERMEN) ALSO BOND WITH VENOM SYMBIOTE throughout the movie TO run from KNULL........
I think MEPHISTO SENDS THE GHOSTRIDER TO KILL KNULL SO MEPHISTO CAN RULE OVER ALL OF THE DARKNESS..... KNULL KILLS NICHOLAS CAGE GHOSTRIDER..............
MEPHISTO NEEDS A NEW RIDER...... HE CHOOSES KEANU REEVES...... THIS GHOST RIDER TEAMED WITH MEPHISTO AND THE SPIDERMEN FIGHT KNULL
AND THEY ALMOST BEAT HIM..... RDJ IS REVEALED AS REBUM ALAH AND IS THE ONE COMMANDING KNULL TO DESTROY THE SPIDER VERSES............
WHICH DOOM SAYS...... I'LL DO IT MYSELF....JUST LIKE THANOS.................
Sony needs to relinquish control of Spider-Man and its properties. They have done an abysmal job w/out the help of Marvel. Period
Are they just getting on the Sony hypetrain and saying we are going to get fed good stuff and then poof or is this shit real?
This multiverse shit has to end. Let the past characters be gone and focus on the central characters. I don’t need 12 different Spider-Man’s, 2 ghost riders, 17 Reed Richard’s. Just stick to the new guys and make something good enough to where we don’t need to think about the past
Anyone who says this is not a marvel comics fan. Anyone who says this doesn’t get what the fuck they are even trying to criticize. My guy THIS IS COMIC BOOKS the multiverse isn’t just a made up concept to sell movies. These movies are ADAPTATIONS OF BOOKS. In those books the multiverse has been a thing since the beginning and ESPECIALLY with this movie they are making called “Secret Wars” which is a storyline ABOUT the multiverse. We’re in the multiverse saga. You complaining about them doing what they should be doing is only making shit worse
brand new spider woman in the mcu in 2025 today now yes yes yes yes yes yes yes 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
So it's just crisis on infinite earths got it
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This all sounds bad bro 😂
Seeing Nicholas Cage as Ghost Rider again would be fun. Let’s not discount the Ghost Rider from Agents of Shield though!
I like Ghost Rider from Agents of Shield.
No
No, please. Nicholas Cage need to sit his old ahh down
@@ogloc8405 it’s not really his age that bothers me as much as his look. He never had the right look to play Ghost Rider..
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im extremely happy to hear kingpin isnt gunna be in spiderman 4... cuz i fuckin hate that character. hes so incredibly boring.
Let's go
This is the worst idea ever.... 😂 I'm out on all of this. Save us Obi Wan, your our only hope!
This is fire wym
Just another MCU fatalist.. they love to come on here and shit on anything and everything marvel
@josephmelloni3826 they don't know comics bro. Those hero team ups are everything 😆 besides, almost everybody live in New York. They're bound to bump into each other
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So basically Spider-Man 4 is gonna be the worst Spider-Man movie ever
Have a feeling they’re gonna mess up most of these movies..
Why do you guys assume Marvel is going to do a repeat in this new saga? so lazy
Bro, listen to yourself 😑
This sounds shyte why cant we just get a black suit spiderman story against the sinister six via kingpin
Sounds messy
I truly despise this news as I am sick of the MCU Spider-Man and its mess. Plus the inclusion of Mephisto in these films is making it worse.
Why do you keep rehashing the same info in twenty different videos? We get it. You don't have to keep going over & over the same thing. (Oh, that's how you make $!) Please! Wait until there is substantial new information & then bring out a new video about this topic, instead of boring us too tears
Why do you keep clicking on videos of you don’t want to watch the videos? And if you know that’s how he makes money then let him do it so he can make money. You’re dumb a$$ doesn’t have to click on the video .