PLEASE get fully into the VW 2.0 CR TDI! I want BANKS' correctly designed an tested parts and the ability to change my tune on the fly. To Gale and your amazing team, as a mechanical engineer, y'all are doing EVERYTHING correct! I got goosebumps when PT 8 showed the heat exchanger efficiency and effectiveness as nobody understands how to rate things which were set up by Kays and London years ago! I'm bringing a similar applet to where I work if all goes as planned.
I hate to say it but we go for noise and excitement. The bro dozer is a little on the quiet side. Your engine is much more responsive than what is currently being employed in the bro dozer. Which is absolutely necessary. This has been by far the best engine series on RUclips. Your thorough notes are amazing!!! I don't ever want this to end............It will but it's been an amazing series.
Poor Aaron, kidnapped from Hawaii while on vacation and thrown into the Evil Dyno Cell of Doom!!!!!!! I don't think Dwayne Johnson could escape this one.
My smile as a dyno tech throttle man... 100% above back seat during homecoming as a sophmore!!! Didnt come off my face till summer break but still rather be throttle man at Banks! 😁💪😎
If that’s lying Gale, hell I’ll live the rest of my life as a lie then 😆 I appreciate your way of looking at something and identifying what it actually does, then improving it! Proven improvements and confidence with what you develop. At the risk of sounding cheesy, you are a hero to me. Keep having fun and being awesome sir!!
That throttle response is pretty darn good. This thing is badass. If this thing makes substantially larger amount of power over the post-stall RPM range, then it might be able to run a numerically lower gear ratio, which would achieve the same overall result, but there would be more pinion teeth engaged for longer geartrain life.
Woot woot finally a reason to be happy about the temp being-10F my factory air to air intercooler is adding power like crazy! Probably up from 137 to 153 Diesel ponies. The perfect thing for icy snowy roads...? lol 😆 well when the misses isn’t with anyway.
another interesting and informative video. I'd like to see how a camshaft revision and some head porting would affect the whole package. You'd no doubt see a reduction in manifold air density but an increase in mass flow as you un-cork the restriction in getting air into each cylinder? Keep up the good work Jordan
Gale said in an earlier video that the heads have been ported, the exhaust valves have been bumped to 33mm, and they have a custom cam ground by Comp. A stock Dmax wouldn't get to 5000 rpm like this one does.
I think the power with the intercooled supercharger is about where it needs to be. Looking at the video showing IDash data from the Monster Mutt, it looked like power was peaking in the 600 HP range while the driver was on and off the throttle setting up for jumps. The only time the truck needed more than that was while doing donuts, where it was pulling about 1150 HP @ 6300 rpm for maybe 10 seconds. That is where the Dmax will need the turbos. But I bet Mr. Banks has already figured this all out long ago. I assume that the air-water intercoolers will be supported by a large tank of ice water in the truck to provide cooling for a 5-minute freestyle session?
Mr. Banks you are truly a very experienced man when it comes to engines and performance motor sports and it is a pleasure to hear you explain stuff. I was with the offshore engine building community in South Florida in the late 80's and early 90's with Cigarette Racing team. I see all of your excitement about Diesel engines and I scratch my head. The engine on the stand sits about 5 feet high and I am afraid to ask what the cost of that engine is with just the supercharger on it. You are so excited about 600 horse power, what did that power cost ? I would love to see you work on a junkyard Honda motor ! There are kids making 600 horsepower with stock bottom ends and turbos. Built Honda motors easily make over a 1000 horsepower ! I guess I am asking what the cost difference is between the 2. I have personally seen an engine builder put $6000 into a Honda motor and make over a 1000 peak horses but tuned it to 750 wheel horsepower... reliably !!! I don't think that engine on your dyne is $6000! This is me being curious that is all ...
Not just that, but wait until he changes the CP3's !!!! Which I believe are stock. I have no idea what the new fuel pump readings OB but it's going to be fun. Who knows we might even get a grin out of Aaron 😂
"Aaron has the same expression?" He's great. The absolute best entertainment on you tube if you like geek stuff. Which I do, and Woody Harrison could take lessons from Aaron on subtle. What a great team!!
Have ya ever thought about something to put at the entrance of the IC to further distribute air in the IC? like measuring the temp on the IC at various places while engine is operating to see if the heat is spread evenly. what im getting at is most air will flow through the center if it had/ has its choice, so try to find away to divert airflow to the fringes without further reducing airflow for a more efficient IC.
Gale, could you talk a little bit in your next video about RPM in diesel engines? Why is it that they are RPM constrained? Is it the fuel's combustion speed? Can air density be used to raise combustion speed and thus rpm? I wanna see a 7k rpm big cube diesel! Also, if you're going to idle it at 1500, you gotta cam it so it chops!
Another lesson in boosting a diesel engine. gale banks teaches us what he has learned and is learning about making power from GM diesel engines. He is giving us data to back up his findings. I wonder if he thought of trying to make an exhaust driven Whipple supercharger? We made some changes from last time--- his dyno operator changed his shirt and actually smiles.
Finally, he talks(Aaron)...cant wait to see how Gale comes up with the number and calculation on the superturbocompound boost figures, its always been a bit of a mystery to me
What if the turbos bypassed the supercharger and the charge air from the supercharger and turbos met inside intercooler? Just thinking that the throttle response of the whipple wouldnt be affected by turbo lag that way.
When a diesel engine is making more than 600HP on just a belt driven supercharger...and has throttle response that makes my buddy's 1993 Acura Integra's high compression B18A1 with VTEC head, 70mm throttle body, tuned and a light weight flywheel blush...that is EPIC!!!
You know you're on a mission when your dyno guy says he chickened out on a run haha. @Banks Power : At what point do you think the fuel burn rate will become a problem in this engine RPM wise? That is to say the time it takes the mixture to burn. I absolutely love your videos. They are fascinating. I hope to visit your facilities some day!
@@cencoast_7.340 lol true. I just wonder. Conventional wisdom says it's 6000-6500 rpm for most engines. At least that's what i've heard. I've just never been brave enough to try or seen anyone else try.
Caption says 666 horses. I’m pretty sure a blown alcohol 540 BBC does double that, at least. Depending on the build. Not sure what Gale is smoking. But either way, that diesel is moving!!
You mentioned that you think you're pushing the fuel pumps beyond their limits, surely that needs addressing before you can add more air without it throwing bits at the walls?
What about the air filter inside the dyno cell just above the exhaust system are you doing this to test the worst case scénario and then in the monster truck install inlet air outside the engine compartment ?
It certainly is impressive from the intake side, but it looks like you're still leaving some meat on the bone when it comes to the exhaust side - be interesting to see what a set of optimised (or near) exhausts would do to help that big dog breath! The other thing is, what about head work to aid the flow of the gasses through the engine - air pump, remember?
Just pressure sensors and temp sensors. They are pretty common in cars that run a boost system. He's mostly mentioning airmouse cos those sensors are not that common and he sells one of course.
Have you ever tried or testetd pre-inlet intercooler (right after airfilter before inlet of turbo/SC)? Could it do a diffenrece for Intake manifold density in warm conditions or high altitude fx?
Pause the video at 16:10 and study the numbers. Go back and listen to Gale's explanation of the numbers until you have absorbed it all. Then you will understand the bedrock basics of engine performance.
do it. They are the most reliable diesel motors on the road. (you will need a few goodies above 30lbs of boost) My dads 7.3 has 350k on it running around 30lbs and it runs perfect.(all stock)
When do we see the twin turbos on, this is now a cliff hanger> Am I right in thinking this supercharger is too small, runs out before engine runs out of revs ?
You'll see the turbos in the next episode or the following. You are correct. The supercharger is not capable of delivering the necessary boost, so that's why the turbos are necessary.
TheCumminsturbo2 he’s already said superchargers aren’t ideal, and a centrifugal super charger is a turbo, with none of the benefits. Turbos take almost no horsepower to operate from the crank shaft. Superchargers rob horsepower. The Whipple eats over 100hp just to turn itself because it’s crank driven. A turbo will make the same horsepower with less “boost”, because it’s not stealing hp.
Narwhals fight terrorism. I love that Gale doesn't have a filter. Based AF.
Mr Banks, what a man! He's 77 and still in the dyno cell building ground breaking desil engines.
Gale Banks is a national treasure!
*Holy shit the dyno operator finally smiled @**1:15**........ almost fell outta my damn chair*
Good reefer there these days....
5000 RPM
It's so refreshing watching a knowledgeable dyno operator...Gale really knows how to get the most out of his equipment.
Even with a Hawaiian shirt Aaron has the same expression. At least I know what his vacation face looks like 😂
The look on his face when Gale says 5000rpm! 1:12
@@WRC989 but boss we can't do it !
WHAT THE.....r u saying!!!! Give me what I want #&$@!!
Lol yeah his face ACTUALLY changed 😂
Probably when 2000 hp is hit.......Gale will get high etc etc etc.
Aaron: same expression as always..
666 Hp. It's a devil machine
First time ive seen the bald head guy smile when you said 5000 rpm
I'd like to know the water temp in and out of intercooler. Impressive numbers.
Dyno-Guy Aaron: "I'll just let my shirt do the talking."
😆
The smile when Gale says they are taking it to 5000 😂😂😂
Banks: you wanna see what happens.
Everybody watching: fastens seat belt and puts on goggles.......... yes, yes we do.
Narwhals lolololol. Omg I'm dying.
And I'm sitting in my office chair... 😂
🤣🤣🤣
I’m 850 miles away so when the Rods starts flying out of the Block, They won’t land near.
Show us what happens, please. I want to see rods fly out of the block next. 😎😎 Remember your safety glasses when you do that.
PLEASE get fully into the VW 2.0 CR TDI! I want BANKS' correctly designed an tested parts and the ability to change my tune on the fly.
To Gale and your amazing team, as a mechanical engineer, y'all are doing EVERYTHING correct!
I got goosebumps when PT 8 showed the heat exchanger efficiency and effectiveness as nobody understands how to rate things which were set up by Kays and London years ago!
I'm bringing a similar applet to where I work if all goes as planned.
We appreciate the support, but for now we are focused mainly on truck (gas/diesel) applications.
Gale Banks is here to remind us that science is a good thing. Thanks Gale.
The long pause at the end where he has to hold those poses crack me up.
I know. It's the perfect boomer ending.
I hate to say it but we go for noise and excitement. The bro dozer is a little on the quiet side. Your engine is much more responsive than what is currently being employed in the bro dozer. Which is absolutely necessary. This has been by far the best engine series on RUclips. Your thorough notes are amazing!!! I don't ever want this to end............It will but it's been an amazing series.
Poor Aaron, kidnapped from Hawaii while on vacation and thrown into the Evil Dyno Cell of Doom!!!!!!!
I don't think Dwayne Johnson could escape this one.
You guys should do a colab with Engine Masters! Would love to see mr banks work with David Freiburger and Steve Dulcich
That's a cool idea. Maybe.
My smile as a dyno tech throttle man... 100% above back seat during homecoming as a sophmore!!! Didnt come off my face till summer break but still rather be throttle man at Banks! 😁💪😎
"We're going to run 5,000 rpm."
Aaron grins
You mean everyone grinned?
I know I did.
If that’s lying Gale, hell I’ll live the rest of my life as a lie then 😆 I appreciate your way of looking at something and identifying what it actually does, then improving it! Proven improvements and confidence with what you develop. At the risk of sounding cheesy, you are a hero to me. Keep having fun and being awesome sir!!
This is awesime! Mr. Gale Banks as student! This is AMAZING!
That throttle response is pretty darn good. This thing is badass. If this thing makes substantially larger amount of power over the post-stall RPM range, then it might be able to run a numerically lower gear ratio, which would achieve the same overall result, but there would be more pinion teeth engaged for longer geartrain life.
Woot woot finally a reason to be happy about the temp being-10F my factory air to air intercooler is adding power like crazy! Probably up from 137 to 153 Diesel ponies. The perfect thing for icy snowy roads...? lol 😆 well when the misses isn’t with anyway.
I'm glad you found that little RUclips video. It helped me laugh all through growing up
Dyno operator has the bomb job. Blow up engines in a Hawaiian shirt!
Aaron talks!!!! And he smiles!!! I love it!!
I knew his Marauder looked familiar. I see it in Glendora by the In-N-Out and Home Depot, all the time.
21:33 twin turbo intercooled into a 5L blower intercooled into a 427 diesel.
holy moly gale really pushing the bounds for mo powa babeh
😄 Someone been watching @donutmedia
another interesting and informative video.
I'd like to see how a camshaft revision and some head porting would affect the whole package. You'd no doubt see a reduction in manifold air density but an increase in mass flow as you un-cork the restriction in getting air into each cylinder?
Keep up the good work
Jordan
Wouldn't the manifold air density stay roughly the same and instead the manifold absolute pressure would drop?
Gale said in an earlier video that the heads have been ported, the exhaust valves have been bumped to 33mm, and they have a custom cam ground by Comp. A stock Dmax wouldn't get to 5000 rpm like this one does.
@ 13:27 "Let's Bang this Turkey" Gale Banks December 2019 ..... Dr. Banks Letting Loose..!!!
as someone named Varg, i appreciate the 666HP!
Lets find out
The amount of knowledge on this channel! Love it
Every good cartoon about superhero has its own mad scientist.
Mr Banks its a protoplast for all of them.
I think the power with the intercooled supercharger is about where it needs to be. Looking at the video showing IDash data from the Monster Mutt, it looked like power was peaking in the 600 HP range while the driver was on and off the throttle setting up for jumps. The only time the truck needed more than that was while doing donuts, where it was pulling about 1150 HP @ 6300 rpm for maybe 10 seconds. That is where the Dmax will need the turbos. But I bet Mr. Banks has already figured this all out long ago. I assume that the air-water intercoolers will be supported by a large tank of ice water in the truck to provide cooling for a 5-minute freestyle session?
Mr. Banks you are truly a very experienced man when it comes to engines and performance motor sports and it is a pleasure to hear you explain stuff.
I was with the offshore engine building community in South Florida in the late 80's and early 90's with Cigarette Racing team. I see all of your excitement about Diesel engines and I scratch my head. The engine on the stand sits about 5 feet high and I am afraid to ask what the cost of that engine is with just the supercharger on it. You are so excited about 600 horse power, what did that power cost ?
I would love to see you work on a junkyard Honda motor ! There are kids making 600 horsepower
with stock bottom ends and turbos. Built Honda motors easily make over a 1000 horsepower !
I guess I am asking what the cost difference is between the 2.
I have personally seen an engine builder put $6000 into a Honda motor and make over a 1000 peak horses but tuned it to 750 wheel horsepower... reliably !!! I don't think that engine on your dyne is $6000!
This is me being curious that is all ...
omg no way! that narwhal song is from weebl and bob! I'm a huge fan of their animation and songs, you should check them out!
666, so duramax is the devils engine? I believe it, just did a head gasket on my lb7.
It's 6.6 Duramax. V8. Eight Cylinders. Where u get the third 6?
@@Jessie-dy5pkI think I saw 666hp somewhere in the post. I'll rewatch it later & take more notice
Always love these vids Gale Banks is the man! I want to see that super charger forcefed by 2 turbos!!!
4 people didn’t like the Hawaii shirt.
Can’t wait to see what those turbo’s will do.
Not just that, but wait until he changes the CP3's !!!! Which I believe are stock.
I have no idea what the new fuel pump readings OB but it's going to be fun. Who knows we might even get a grin out of Aaron 😂
"Aaron has the same expression?" He's great. The absolute best entertainment on you tube if you like geek stuff. Which I do, and Woody Harrison could take lessons from Aaron on subtle. What a great team!!
We are blessed to have your knowledge.
Thank you
I see mr banks has a sense of humour lol listen to the man put it to the floor hang on great video
Interesting data from the I dash, i limited only by the fuel intering the engine. Nice video Mr. Banks....
I could listen to this guy talk all day lol. So interesting.
Have ya ever thought about something to put at the entrance of the IC to further distribute air in the IC? like measuring the temp on the IC at various places while engine is operating to see if the heat is spread evenly. what im getting at is most air will flow through the center if it had/ has its choice, so try to find away to divert airflow to the fringes without further reducing airflow for a more efficient IC.
Gale, could you talk a little bit in your next video about RPM in diesel engines? Why is it that they are RPM constrained? Is it the fuel's combustion speed? Can air density be used to raise combustion speed and thus rpm? I wanna see a 7k rpm big cube diesel! Also, if you're going to idle it at 1500, you gotta cam it so it chops!
Aaron and Gale are perfectly matched.
Another lesson in boosting a diesel engine. gale banks teaches us what
he has learned and is learning about making power from GM diesel
engines. He is giving us data to back up his findings. I wonder if he
thought of trying to make an exhaust driven Whipple supercharger? We made some changes from last time--- his dyno operator changed his shirt and actually smiles.
Finally, he talks(Aaron)...cant wait to see how Gale comes up with the number and calculation on the superturbocompound boost figures, its always been a bit of a mystery to me
What if the turbos bypassed the supercharger and the charge air from the supercharger and turbos met inside intercooler? Just thinking that the throttle response of the whipple wouldnt be affected by turbo lag that way.
When a diesel engine is making more than 600HP on just a belt driven supercharger...and has throttle response that makes my buddy's 1993 Acura Integra's high compression B18A1 with VTEC head, 70mm throttle body, tuned and a light weight flywheel blush...that is EPIC!!!
11:14- "just push it as far as it will go" haha freaking epic.
Was it just me or did the gas engine they are trying to replace seem to rev twice as quick when it was being run in the truck?
@sijonda probably, lower rotating mass and lower bore/stroke ratio.
They aren't done
Excellent series of videos. Keep them coming.
That thing is unholy with just the super, like imagine that in your tow rig
666 horsepower, that thing is a beast!
The M.A.D. scientist strikes again. Loving this series.
This video series makes me wonder if this was shot like a year ago and this is the diesel bros monster truck engine.
It is
Ive been wondering that as well, or maybe this is some updated version they are working on? Didnt think their build had the whipple
You know you're on a mission when your dyno guy says he chickened out on a run haha.
@Banks Power : At what point do you think the fuel burn rate will become a problem in this engine RPM wise? That is to say the time it takes the mixture to burn.
I absolutely love your videos. They are fascinating. I hope to visit your facilities some day!
About the time the crank is flying through the air...that's when
@@cencoast_7.340 lol true. I just wonder. Conventional wisdom says it's 6000-6500 rpm for most engines. At least that's what i've heard. I've just never been brave enough to try or seen anyone else try.
Wow that thing was revving I was just waiting for a piston to com out and say hello lol 👌👌👍👍
Not on mr banks' watch
I sure wish I had that supercharger on my lml. Great video as always!
The dyno operator might still look bored but at least he has a Hawaiian shirt 🤷♂️
Intercool dual sequential variable geometry turbos. That's four turbos, by the way!
Dump the blower. Unless you want to build a two stroke.
Viking Child I don’t think you get what he’s trying to do hear. 60 years of boost experience probably knows best.
He's gonna add the turbos onto the already supercharged engine. (And add more fueling...)
5000 rpm. *aaron smiles*
Yeah, saw that! :-)
Can't wait to see this sucker with the turbos added!!!
To quote Jeremy Clarkson, "exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster."
@@bankspower Hahaha! EXCELLENT quote!! :)
If Dennis Anderson is your client, 666hp is a great number! When you finish this contract will you be building anymore "NASCAR" trucks or drag cars?
Caption says 666 horses. I’m pretty sure a blown alcohol 540 BBC does double that, at least. Depending on the build. Not sure what Gale is smoking. But either way, that diesel is moving!!
Great video! Love the data
You mentioned that you think you're pushing the fuel pumps beyond their limits, surely that needs addressing before you can add more air without it throwing bits at the walls?
What about the air filter inside the dyno cell just above the exhaust system are you doing this to test the worst case scénario and then in the monster truck install inlet air outside the engine compartment ?
Some pressure drop across the intercooler is due to temperature drop and associated volume reduction.
Can you do any of this with a Ford 6.7? With the exhaust in the valley, you have nowhere to put a blower.
What would happen if you had Gale Banks and Christian Von Koenigsegg in the same room together
Right? How cool would that podcast be?
Aaron's Hawaiian shirt ROCKS!
That's standard issue for Aaron. We'll pass it along. Thanks.
Let's start a GoFundMe to make sure Gale lives forever!!! Too many people have just discovered him!!!!
It certainly is impressive from the intake side, but it looks like you're still leaving some meat on the bone when it comes to the exhaust side - be interesting to see what a set of optimised (or near) exhausts would do to help that big dog breath!
The other thing is, what about head work to aid the flow of the gasses through the engine - air pump, remember?
It sounds pretty violent at 5500 RPM
These videos amaze me.
We have more videos and content dropping over the next few months that will continue to amaze you.
Banks Power you guys are doing my dream job, thanks for the videos!
The master jackassery continues with a vengeance! Great stuff Gale! keep it up!!!
If Mr Banks asks you to rev it and give it the beans, you rev it and give it the whole can
13:45 i get the feeling the dyno operator was uncomfortable with gale's demands.
Filming on casual Friday I see.
So to get the information you have you mentioned the air mouse but never told us what other sensors we need to get that data.
Just pressure sensors and temp sensors. They are pretty common in cars that run a boost system. He's mostly mentioning airmouse cos those sensors are not that common and he sells one of course.
Have you ever tried or testetd pre-inlet intercooler (right after airfilter before inlet of turbo/SC)? Could it do a diffenrece for Intake manifold density in warm conditions or high altitude fx?
I love this!
Dino guy smiles a big toothy grin when banks says 5000 rpm :)
That's Aaron for you.
I just love this r&d, and no bullshit the numbers are everything. Just a question. Is that running std factory cylinder heads??
Paul Salvestrin I would doubt it considering it’s a 7ltr not the standard 6.6
That engine is stock
No, they are Wagler heads off the road racing truck
Pause the video at 16:10 and study the numbers. Go back and listen to Gale's explanation of the numbers until you have absorbed it all. Then you will understand the bedrock basics of engine performance.
So Gale banks finally made "the beast" of an engine 😂
Well, not yet. He's working on it though. That engine is mainly stock. No aftermarket parts in it. YET. I think.🤔
Actually he has beastly power, for sure.
People may say 600 something isn’t much but that engine can probably do that alllllll day and not blow up or break down
Sounds like a cabin ropeway on emergency power at 2500 :D
Love it? more Banks 💪🏻💪🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
🗽 🦅 💪🏻
I want to have the same build but with a 7.3L as the powerplant just to see
do it. They are the most reliable diesel motors on the road. (you will need a few goodies above 30lbs of boost)
My dads 7.3 has 350k on it running around 30lbs and it runs perfect.(all stock)
Man I can't wait to see the numbers with the turbos on it!!!!!
When do we see the twin turbos on, this is now a cliff hanger>
Am I right in thinking this supercharger is too small, runs out before engine runs out of revs ?
You'll see the turbos in the next episode or the following. You are correct. The supercharger is not capable of delivering the necessary boost, so that's why the turbos are necessary.
Why only 700lb feet of torque? Shouldn't a diesel produce closer to 2000 at that hp?
My humble opinion: Mass Flow is the game.
14:35, story time; let's all sit around the fire with Papa Banks.
Don't forget the smores.....
What do you think about running 2 big gear driven prochargers off the front cover one for each bank
TheCumminsturbo2 he’s already said superchargers aren’t ideal, and a centrifugal super charger is a turbo, with none of the benefits. Turbos take almost no horsepower to operate from the crank shaft. Superchargers rob horsepower. The Whipple eats over 100hp just to turn itself because it’s crank driven. A turbo will make the same horsepower with less “boost”, because it’s not stealing hp.
Is there anyway that's gonna fit under the hood?
Gale what about nitrous oxide as a intercooler ?