A Quick Word About Stwawbwewymilk
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- I'm disgusted.
Bro I tried my best to talk about this without losing my friend but being entirely censored. This was difficult.
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"this artist is stwabewwymiwk. now for your sake and my own, this is the only time i will say it like that." i felt that
The name hurts my eyes
Starlight_Feather I’m not defending, but calling anyone a “freak” in GENERAL doesn’t sit right with me..
EEEEEAAUUUUUUGGHHHHHHH
Starlight_Feather, Im going to start counting how many times I’ve seen you starting now.
No u. I wasnt talking about her.
sorry if this out of the context, but her village in ACNH is cute.
RIGHT?
Hell yeah
The cutest part is shadow saying nice c***
Yes
I have no idea how to make that
as a psychology student, trauma art is NOT that. And 9/10 it’s only shared between yourself, your therapist, or VERY close friends
I agree with this
as a psychology student, trauma can lead to the development of paraphilias= the healthy venting of that paraphilia in a fictional space=yes, that can count as trauma art.
@Jasper 😈 it's obviously not trauma art if you're sharing it for the world to see
@@jasper1361 your sick in the head and should be kicked out of the school
@@fudgysundaee Huh? Why? What's trauma art by definition then?
Like, I guess it depends on the person, right?
It's called trauma art, because it causes trauma to anyone seeing it.
PLEASEE 😭✋
Lmaoo 💀
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yes 😌👀
hAAA
AHAHHHAHAHAHAHAA-
shit i have trauma of my art
Why does nobody ever mention that typically art therapy is done in a safe space and not shared with other people?
EXACTLY. LOUDER FOR PEOPLE IN THE BACK.
And not sold... Like she sells...
@@phia3892 what the fuck
Let alone be profited off
EXACTLY what i was talking about in my response just now!!! i forgot the term for it because i just woke up and i'm groggy.
wait? its all fetish art?
Strawberrymilk: always has been.
LMFAO 💀
Strawberrymink: wait it’s not ok to draw minors in lewd positions?
Literally everyone: never has been
*Stwawbewymilk
@@MineCraft-tf1im you cannot pay me enough to spell it like that
Kenji You are right.
Please spell it properly? I said please so you can’t deny.
As a trans guy, people using gender identity as an excuse to get away with shit that even a cis person couldn't get away with, makes my blood fucking boil.
I normally try to avoid foul language in the RUclips comments section, but just-- just no. Not this time.
I am a trans guy as well; I agree with you 100% and completely
Im trans too and I agree with you, its fucking horrible.
I am under the transgender umbrella and these were my exact thoughts when I heard this, its disgusting (by the way, trans squad in replies :o)
im a transboy and i agree with you completely
i'm also a trans guy, and i too DISPSISE it when ppl use gender identity to get away with shit.
Update: Get your champagne, because they got terminated!
Wait really? When?
wait WHAT 🤔
fellow dr pfp
WHERE’S THE CONFETTI AND DRINKS WE GOTTA CELEBRATE THIS!
THROW THE CONFETTI!!
something about the name "stwawbwewymilk" makes me instantly distrust her ngl
Yup shes trying to make her self look childish. Also, Parappa pfp!
i agree kakyoin
It’s always the ones trying to be too cute it feels like.
Same here Kakyoin
yo cool profile picture
Completely agree. It disgusts me that people are now letting it slide because Aggy calls it trauma art. I think it's possible that it could have been fetish art all along, but once she started getting backlash from onlookers, she claimed it was trauma art.
I remember seeing Creepshow’s video on her a while back.
@@Cheetahgirl_Studios Which was heavily criticized already.
Deina Jud
Legally it was discussed, because she called the art “child p*rn”. And showing it is a form of distribution. That’s illegal.
She also disregarded *ALL* Trauma art as bad and terrible when she doesn’t understand what it can do.
@@user-ky3pw1we4d I think she made a follow up talking about the faults of that video
@@user-ky3pw1we4d I personally think Creepshowart's bad execution of the situation is what made a lot of people siding with Swawbewwy and letting it slide.
to preface: i am bisexual. i am in the lgbt community.
i feel a lot of people whiteknight the lgbt community. yes, a lot of us are sweet and nice and amazing but just because someone is a part of the community does not make them immediately good. i’ve met fellow gay people who fetishize lesbians, and some who are homophobic, transphobic (it confuses me too)- and just because stwawbwewymiwk is trans doesn’t mean that she’s a good person.
my ex is trans and gay and he was a bad person… soooouuuuu
A homophobic LGBT person? How does that work? They self hate like Uncle Ruckus?
@@doagii2649 Silence, invalid
@@goose7618 i didn’t mean it in a transphobic way, i’m also a trans guy…
god gave the wrong person a cute unique art style
*sighs* yes...yes theyve had
almost every. damn. time.
Whenever a person has a cute or cool artstyle and the person turns out to be problematic, people just steal the artstyle. It is how it is I guess.
@@Starriexxxas sad as this is, it’s true. :(
Tbh I might just steal it (not the inappropriate art bc ew) in spite of her.
As a trans person, it disgusts me that people think that's an excuse to let this be ok
as a csa survivor, who the fuck are you to tell other survivors how to cope or fetishize their traumas???
Yenrisan They didn’t?
@@faeriegloss665 they did by judging strawberrymilk as being disgusting for using their vent art as a coping mechanism and writing it off as "an excuse".
Yenrisan i know this is a month old, i’m just trying to clear up some misunderstandings. Op was pointing out the fact that their actions were being excused because they’re trans, nowhere in their sentence did they state that it was the vent art that was disgusting, it was the fact that they were trans and immediately everyone turns a blind eye.
wait im sorry when did trans people come up???? like are you just saying a popular opinion but know youre not going to get enough likes, so you have to write your gender?
Miss Zizi: *Makes new sprites*
Everybody: It’s simping time bois
WIMPING
is also probably Rule 34 time
I simp
yeah
I’ll do it, just this once
Sexuality, gender, trauma etc should not change how you see someone
With SM's logic people can also openly post r*pe art, racist art, sexist art and so on "bceause it's therapy art". Therapy art does not need to be posted, they simply just want a way to feel justified about something wrong
People already post all three. Especially the first one. Artistic freedom is beautiful.
@@hecutsdown91 not when they’re selling it and posting it so children can see…
Though some ppl post other therapy art to help other people realize they aren't alone too, most don't share it tho.
@@YourFavesXOXO wait so you’re implying that someone can make therapy art for other people even though they’re not feeling what they’re posing on that art?
This woman is the reason i cant look at accual strawberry milk the same way anymore
I think I now prefer banana milk
Choccy milk
Banana milk 4life.
banana smoothies hit different tho ngl
Me, lactose intolerant so my bad
Drawing kids like that is definitely not ok, idk how people can say it is lol
Their only excuse when it comes to being legal is that it's fake and a drawing so it's ok since its not real. But this doesn't make it ok, it just excuses it as legal
Because it's not real and causes no demonstrable harm. If your only argument against something is that "it's noy okay" or "it's disgusting", you dont have an argument in thr first place. Art is art, it can't hurt you.
@@tigerfestivals5137 I'm guessing you believe age is just a number too huh?
@@tigerfestivals5137
It may not cause any harm by itself, but it's still representative of things that may end up causing harm. Just because somebody is enjoying stuff like this doesn't mean they'll do it to actual children, but it doesn't mean they won't either
@@gatst7680 most people that make this art do not like irl children/underage people at all. Over 90% of the people I've seen use it to cope from damages caused by csem. This artist I believe outright said they want wants children to veiw their content ( to "help cope with csem") which is what I am not okay with, as soon as an artist tries grooming children I will 100% call them out. Their art isn't illegal but what they are using it for is.
crossdressing isn't wrong to do unless it is sexuallizing a child.
theres timws where her art is definitely trauma art, but then theres times where its definitely fetish art and its so jarring. because you go from raw emotion and the inner child of someone screaming to judt... porn. and i hate it bc aggie genuinely has good art when it comes to the ACTUAL trauma art. i remember she made one drawing for puppymilk that had her MC with a giant hole in his torso while a character was talking abt sex iirc, and with that it was obviously trauma art because it can definitely feel like that.
just sad and sick, tbhm
The new sprites are so cute ZiZi !!!!!
That's her officer, that's the simp
Steve Pensando YOU’LL NEVER CATCH ME ALIVE !!!!!!
Hands up or we will shoot!
Tbh they are
Agreed
I completely agree that Aggy’s art is more of fetish art than “trauma art”. But please understand that trauma art is still *valid* and *important* .I do it myself to break my memory barrier and heal myself from the wound of the trauma I suffered. Aggy’s art is bad, trauma art isn’t.
Facts, I draw so much vent art and it's really helpful
Totally agree! I think what struck me most and made me feel icky about her “trauma art” was that she was selling it. And I mean- to an extent I think this could be okay with some trauma, for example art that was made from negative feelings like depression. But the problem is her art is literally of children, it’s essentially porn whether it was made from trauma or not. I have an eating disorder, I make cope art, a lot of time this art depicts very skinny or even skeleton looking girls. I would never sell this art though because I wouldn’t want it to become fetishized or normal in someone else’s hands. I feel that people don’t understand the impact that art has, just because it’s fictional doesn’t mean it can’t affect the real world and I don’t think people take responsibility for that a lot of the time.
Caily
I personally don’t ever show my trauma art. That is, unless, my therapist asks me to do so. My art is tied to a video game character I love dearly that suffered a similar abuse, that why I have a connection. I drew some fucked up shit, but I acknowledge what happened to me was bad, and DON’T show it. This is YOUR art, you don’t have to share it. I do agree, in some instances trauma art is sellable, like anxiety and depression. I find it so icky that she’s selling her trauma away, that’s basically blocking it out.
She never said it wasn’t valid 😀
Pie Panda i know lol. Im just saying it for people who still didn’t get the idea.
I have lost my hunger for strawberry milk (the food, not the person.) after watching this video.
Same :(
Exactly.
Consume the person.
i heard "golden shower" and cried
@@Mr.Ashpit piss
Vent art shouldn't be an excuse for what this person is doing, their art is still normalizing something that SHOULD NOT ever be considered as normal, and it's potentially hurting people too
On a lighter note; the new sprites have an E-girl feel
Vent art reminds me of why I left the scp community. Too much of that shit seemed like fetishes or their own fantasies.
@@maximumforce8275
*cough cough* MAL.0
@@drifterduckygaming4646 686
@@maximumforce8275 It was scp 1471's fault, isn't it?
@@hekaterinedragon8776 no it was the pregnant little girl one.
trauma art isn’t supposed to be... public... i’m almost certain that whatever “therapy” they’re doing to cope, their therapist wouldn’t recommend posting the art online.
It's *DEFINITELY* not trauma art. I'm ok with her art existing, I'd just at least like her to label it as what it is: *fetish art.*
And selling it
It should never be made public if it’s flat out nasty shit. Ever
I mean, there are platforms made just to share vents and vent art, but I don't think any trauma survivor would feel comfortable putting art that graphic or sexual out in public
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7:15 what happened to the villager's eyes. They were black eyes... now they're red eyes.
Bro got possessed for a moment 💀💀
That's how just Dotty's eyes are
My step mom is an art therapist, and I feel the same as you on this, knowing a lot about it.
(Please be sure to read the full thing. I have realized someone may mistake I am defending aggy, which is absolutely something I would never do.)
Hello. I am a child sexual abuse survivor among many other things, and I too use trauma art to cope. While it is not encouraged to share trauma art out in the open surrounding that category, it is just as safe and healthy as any other trauma art. Yes, it indeed will often depict taboo and gruesome situations. Yes, it indeed will often depict disgusting and awful things.
Trauma art is obviously not for everyone, but for many it does work. In terms of sharing said trauma art, while one can, it is discouraged to advertise it so out in the open. Especially regarding the current subject we are discussing. Hell, many that make trauma art don't want to share their trauma art so publicly because of how personal it is in the first place.
While looking at aggys art, I have noticed a distinct fetishization and sexualization that differs from what trauma art usually displays. For me personally, when I create trauma art relating to being a survivor, it has a surreal, abstract, disgusting and distressing tone to it. Hell, sometimes, it might even have a hint of sexuality in it, but it's always shown in a distressed and slimy manner. It is never shown in a positive light.
This is just how It is personally for me. Trauma art varies from person to person. However, for me, I just find aggys art to be more of fetish art than it to be an artistic depiction of trauma.
It is very much possible to be her mind coping by fetishizing these situations, but I feel that just crosses the realm of healthy coping to unhealthy coping.
(EDIT: I just want to make it clear that I am not trying to defend aggy. My intention is quite the opposite. I am wanting to speak on the subject as someone with experience who has done art therapy, which trauma art fits under, to help my therapist and I understand how I feel while relieving stress. What I am saying is that what aggy is creating feels much more distinct from trauma art, and calling it trauma art actually harms the legitimacy of actual trauma art in the process. That is not even mentioning that sharing trauma art so out in the open as she does is very discouraged. Many are uncomfortable with doing so in the first place, them being very personal. It is very much possible her mind is clinging to these fetishizations to cope, but that crosses into the realm of unhealthy coping and should not be encouraged.)
I agree 👍
Perfect description, thank you
You summed up my thoughts on the topic well, I actually got into an arguement about it on twitter and it was really hard for me to put my feelings into words
thank you for sharing your experience with the topic, you're very brave!
I hope your doing well and good cause I've been through that and it was confusing for me to understand anyone I come across.
Honestly. This "artist" already confirmed on twitter that what they're drawing is porn. Just looking at their twitter for more than 2 seconds will prove that this is their fetish, but once called out on it, they will say "omg you can't call trans ppl pedophiles, they CAN NOT BE pedophiles"??! Like?
Lemon Wedge yeah for real, as if being LGBTQ somwhow gives you absolute immunity.. and what's even worse is that so many people defend and support this person (on twitter or elsewhere) and it's just terrible.
survivors are allowed to fetishize their trauma
Yenrisan That's extremely unhealthy and definitely not the point of trauma art. But also, even if you were to fetishize it, okay that's one thing. But distributing and making MONEY from it, publishing child porn online for everyone to see and to actually have the audacity to justify all of it just bc you're trans, that's definitely harmful and absolutely NOT the point of art therapy
@ʚ daintyelf ɞ im pretty sure thats a joke abt how antis see women who have flat chests in fiction and reality as ppl who cater to criminals thus making their existence illegal.
No no. Anyone can be one.
lol even if its "trauma" theres no excuse to draw CP
I know all that stuff happened, but....
YOUR ISLAND IS SO GOOD-
While aging a character up is a good idea, it's also kind of weird territory. A lot of people just don't put in the effort, simply slapping the child characters head on an adult body. It's creepy to me. If you're going to age up a character, actually put forth the effort of making them look older!
why? its just a drawing lmao
@@chaotic_despot and your feelings are valid. But so are mine.
@@societyslostone i wasnt saying "why do you find it creepy" i was saying "why should ppl put in that effort bcs you say so"? its just a drawing. youre making a demand, not expressing an opinion.
@@chaotic_despot I never meant to sound demanding, in fact people are more than welcome to straight up ignore me. I just wanted to share my thoughts. I'll just shut up now. Hope you have a good day/night.
Edit: just woke up and had to fix the phrasing.
@@societyslostone ignore them, they support cp apparently :////
I'm a CSA survivor and I draw, but I would never draw my abuse, especially in a fetishy/romanticised way. I know everybody is different, but I can't imagine how she could draw like that.
nice pfp
Me too (also a CSA survivor). Imho drawing it in a fetishy way is alright as long as it’s shown that it’s in a negative context, or that the focus is shown to be uncomfortable. When I was gr00med, I often felt fetishised by the abuser and yet I just played along with it to make him happy, if that makes sense
@@aimalisapro123 I know what SA means but what does CSA mean?
@@mexicancandytastegood2716 It means exactly what you know it means, but with Child in front. I won’t say the actual meaning as it makes me uncomfortable, but it’s Child. S.A basically.
@@lucky__here ohh sorry that happened to you
5:15 well that went from 0-100 real fkn quick
Gosh even the name, “puppy milk” disgusts me, and irritates me. I lost appetite by hearing that name. Out of everything else in the whole world, they cant think of anything else, aside from milk, milking, and getting milked.
I've actually heard of this artist before. she went by a different name before that one though. I don't remember it and she claimed that she was a child in that one but I was told by a friend who stays in the loop with those things the artist came out as stating she's an adult but she prefers to think of herself as a child because it makes her feel better about what happened to her. Which honestly, as someone with PTSD and Depression I can kinda get that but I don't think that they should because of fact that I do work with children that have mental disorders and it just seems disrespectful for someone to claim they feel safe as being a child than an adult when there are people out there that will age up physically, but never mentally. It just... That feels icky to me.
Now my PTSD is related to my childhood abuse (Mental, physical and sexual) and I do find that as normalizing the whole child sexual abuse in eyes of the public which honestly, no that shouldn't be normalized. That is something that if a child said that "So and so did this" then adults should jump on the case at that moment and get the sexual offender arrested but with people normalizing the art they are also in a way normalizing the act too. I know this from experience (jumping back to my work)
I have seen someone who I can't say much about the situation besides they were raped a lot and they were a child. When it was brought up to adults the phrase I heard and made me PHYSICALLY SICK was "What can we do about it?" Like honestly, who in their right mind is okay with that? When I argue they tell me that most of the children get that stuff from the internet from watching or reading stuff that they thought was about their favorite cartoon character but it is like Rule whatever number it is. (I totally forgot, yikes) And so they claim that happened to them because it happened to their favorite character that is close to their age. Or they WANT it to happen to them because it happened to one of the characters they looked up to. So, yes this is a problem. It is a MAJOR problem. It is also very heartbreaking and sad too.
Children should be allowed to be children but in the world, they are growing up in it is normalizing things that shouldn't be normal. This shouldn't be a common topic of everyday life but it is.
personally, I’m not somebody who participates in age regression, but it is often done as a nonsexual coping mechanism (like, for people who feel like they were never able to have a childhood, and want to experience a childhood later in life). I don’t exactly fully get it, but I suppose it’s similar to how I use comfortcore and sometimes just really want to be taken care of, and I’m not somebody who judges people on how they cope. of course, the second that age regression is used to be predatory, it is no longer a harmless coping mechanism and should be called out. even if that person has trauma, abuse and predatory behavior is still harmful.
oh, and I don’t actually know this person or how they actually feel, but kinks can often form from trauma and mental illness. it’s a way of turning your pain into pleasure and taking away it’s power over you. if somebody talks down to themself, they may enjoy being degraded, if they feel trapped, they might enjoy being tied up. some folks even turned the pain of labor into something pleasurable (not something I know much about, so look it up if you want more accurate information). for more extreme trauma-borne kinks, it can feel like a way of taking back control. rape kinks, when performed in a consensual and safe way (or through art and writing), can help people who have gone through that, because now they have control over a situation that they previously had no control over, they know that they can stop if they want to.
but, like I said before, these kinks must be practiced safely and consensually, if people are being hurt, all that reasoning goes out the window, it is no longer harmless.
I don’t really know what the point of all this stuff was, but I hope this information helped someone
@@justanotheranimationchanne5725 I don't mind that kind of thing. I have weird kinks too. But telling people it is okay for you to draw that kind of things because you dont know better cause of your age when not the case and also you obviously know better.
I have talked to my lover and we agreed when we have children (adopted or our own) we arent allowing them online until they are old enough to understand there is messed up people in the world and that not to take what happens online in sense of coming across porn like that as "Oh I like that character and they are doing it so it is okay for me to do it too" or whatever else. I want them to know that isn't safe or healthy for their age until they are older. Which a lot of people arent prepair for that outcome.
Also telling others you are a lot younger and stuff just make things bad in long run if one of the others you talk to is really that young or close to that age
Kids should be off the internet, thats it really
@@asealdenmogd4232 that is impossible to do. My 8 year old niece is home schooled and most of her peojects she has to do internet research. Her 5 year old brother has an internet learning program he uses when he isn't studying with their grandmother or I. Both of them have accidentally went to other sites or found something that they didn't understand (but us adults did) and we had to fix the issue.
With COVID more kids are being home schooled and that means more are online. Those internet filters work but not fully. In school 11 year old me knew how to get around them, granted all I did was go to quizilla to read stories later ffn. Though that isn't the point. Most places expect people to have internet at home so that the kids can do online research or do their work online. It has been like this since early 2000s and as years went on it got more a must than anything else in school systems. It is now a normal and must so you cant keep the kids offline
@@asealdenmogd4232 That's unavoidable. Children will use the internet if they want to (when they're mature enough of course.) But there's nothing you can do.
Stwawbwewwy honestly scares me. It's scary, how she is able to draw things that are 100% CP and yet somehow is able to defend it as "trauma art".
There are actual art youtubers who are DEFENDING her because of it. Like "Omg she needs to draw that to get over her abuse".
This is so so scary to me, because what she is doing IS WRONG!
I was heavily abused as a child too. I am an artist now. Guess what I don't draw?
Yep! CP!
Being abused is not an excuse to draw porn with minors in them. Plain and simple.
It isn't cp, that's why nobody is really doing anything about it. Cp is very much illegal if it's a real child. Like if the child was/is alive today. You can't get in trouble for drawing FICTIONAL characters in that way, they have no feelings or emotions. They aren't real.
@@pikapika3198 well the thing is, that there are laws about it being CP, even if it's drawn, if the character is clearily identifiable as a child. I think it's called the protect act or something (not sure though, since I am not a law professional) but essentially it means, that drawn CP is still CP.
I think with her it's mostly hard to do something about it, since she draws all her characters in this cutesy style, that makes it hard to see, wether she is drawing kids or "cute" adults.
Caspariana oh man the law is going to have a field day when it finds out lolicon exists and has been perfectly legal since ever.
Pika Pika just because they “can’t feel” doesn’t make the people who jerk off to them not pedophiles, because they’re kids.
@@sakuraogami6885 But they aren't jerking off to REAL KIDS. They are fake, they don't even look like real people. Just like you wouldn't say this person is into fucking animals just because he draws furries porn.
off-topic but I remember seeing you in the splatoon plaza a couple times, just thought it was cool seeing you there 👉👈
As a trans/transmasculine person myself, I can definitely say that being trans does not excuse problematic actions, and that calling a trans person out for problematic actions is not transphobic or bigoted in any way. This 'Strawberrymilk' person is disgusting.
Transmasculine? Does that mean you scrawny or muscular?
Wait if vent art expresses how you feel....
Then drawing sexualized minors....
Um
FBI OPEN UP-
HM.
HMMM
HMMMMMMMMM
*E L E C T R I C C HA I R*
my guess is she hasn't fully processed her trauma. a lot of trauma survivors (including myself until recently) end up just romanticizing/fetishizing their trauma as a way of "reclaiming their sexuality" or feeling like they're "in control" (if u know nicole dollanganger, her music does a similar thing) when in actuality, it feeds into damaging their self worth and, given stwawbeweymilk's large audience, it can put a lot of bad ideas into the minds of others. i don't blame her, since i know that that's a pretty common thing with sexual abuse victims--they genuinely do feel like they're empowering themselves and sometimes, it actually does benefit their recovery--but i do think it's kinda wack that she's monetizing it all.
Also why the fuck is she sharing this?
@@wannabehistorian371 Sharing and having people agree with you is kind of something that gives you a feeling of push that you're doing something right. Validation.
>Kinda wack that she's monetizing it all
Hey, I know this sounds stupidly insensitive, but if people are going to pay money for art I would have made anyway, I'd probably monetize it as well. But then again that's probably just me (and Aggy, if it's actually trauma art, which I doubt)
Portgas D Ann Except maybe look for it in an IRL support group? Not the judging eyes of the internet?
pls share your psychology degree bcs you seem to rly be acting like you know a lot abt ppl you dont even fucking know.
Strawberry: Age is just a number
Me: *Jail is just a place*
And a flamethrower is just a pyro’s revolver
Her artwork would be illegal where I live in the UK. CP is illegal, even if animated. We had a bloke get done for it and he had gross stuff involving the Simpson Kids and juvenile animé characters.
6:29 EXACTLY! Hello fellow CSA survivor, hope you're doing swell cos I sure ain't and I hope you are are safe and happy. I think vent art, fine, completely fine, until your vent art starts putting children (fake or not) in sexually explicit, fetishising and damaging positions. I'm ok with people drawing that shit privately but it's when it's public? Nah. It hurts CSA survivors as much as it helps them.
But was it tagged or not?
Deina Jud I think it’s just straight up on her page
I know it wasn’t tagged last time I looked at her account
She even had a pictures from the comic pinned, untagged
@@nialicious2 Then that's bad. People who don't tag triggering shit should be called out. Not for drawing and sharing them with proper warnings though.
please dont speak for all csa survivors k thnx ❤
@@chaotic_despot It wasn't my intention to. What I mean is, as a CSA survivor you should try to be considerate towards other CSA survivors by at least tagging this shit, which she doesn't always do. Plus, if your vent art is so explicit, and features children, it should be common sense not to post it on public sites let alone monetise it. *Most* CSA survivors find this shit triggering, so we should all be considerate to each other.
Another reason why this (the art) is problematic is because she makes MONEY off of it. I get it, have done and have seen trauma art but it gets to a WHOLE new level when it’s *public, *explicit, and *profitable. Last i remember, she holds commissions AND sells her explicit art. SELLS THEM. Fiction still affects reality and while it’s true trauma survivors could be buying her work, but it scares me to think about the P/d/s and other creepy people buying her comics and art for inappropriate reasons.
People are ignoring this. Her selling it does not put her in a good light. Too many red flags are being ignored because people want to baby this person or they dont want to call it what it is. A victim can become a abuser unfortunately.
I may not be a survivor of CSA, but I am a child.
Please don’t sexualize me. I beg of you, *please.*
Same
If you're that young get off the internet kid. Or at best, have your parents supervise you. This isn't a safe place.
Hello, trans person here. THAT DOESN'T EXCUSE ANYTHING! (Thanks Miss Zizi for making a video on this btw!)
Although Loli is not the same level as CP, it’s still gross as to why a person would find a character with child-like appearance to be sexy.
Also, I appreciate how you talk about this calmly and not letting your emotion taking over.
So anybody who's attracted to asians are gross?
@@MasakanSolaris No? That's a race not an age range? Lolis are made to either be or look like prepubescent girls.
@@MasakanSolaris lol no you pleb. A loli is literally a person who looks like a child. Lolis don't have to be asian anyways.
Real kids look shit most of the time. Can confirm am kid
man can we just stop calling little girls lolis like a basement-dwelling hentai-obsessed neckbeard? if i see one more person posting an anime screencap of a child with a caption like "look at the loli!!! :33" im blowing my brains out
And the amount of people on her twitter supporting her is enough to make me lose hope in humanity
Literally
And the amount of “people” in this comment section defending it because ‘muh coping mechanism’
I dont understand why is cross dressing is mentioned next to the disgusting fetsihes. Kids can cross dress and its not inherently sexual
only if the person intends it to be.
like its so strange tbh, whats a man wearing a skirt or a woman wearing a suit gonna do to you???
it’s not even cross dressing cause the main character is clearly shown to be a transgender girl
On the topic of aging up characters, I find it slightly weird still. By drawing them in a sexual fashion you at least had some sort of attraction to them as a minor to motivate you to draw them. I think it’s a lot less worse though if the characters are older (like older teens who can pass as young adults) but when they do it to literal children I get the ick. For ex. Miles Morales and Wendy from gravity falls VS. The rug rats babies… In my opinion, the latter is so much more disturbing.
Edit: And just to clarify I’m a minor and I’m not defending Pedos or MAPS those people genuinely suck.
ARE WE GONNA IGNORE WHEN JACQUES SAID “DAD LEFT ME” YEAH I SAW THAT
we all got our kinks but this ain't it chief
Yeah this shit is gross
I love your pfp
Who's we 🤨
My kink is television corners on my neck 😍😍 /j sorry about making a joke on this topic tho-
@@obeselasagnacat porn addicts, and pedophiles
its ok to draw nsfw art BUT once you add children thats when you cross the line and them saying its "trauma" art is not an excuse and being trans isn't ether
As someone that was s*xually abused as a child, i would never do that kind of disgusting stuff. If i wanted to vent about what i lived, i would censor scenes that should be censored (and that she apparently doesn't do).
For me, this really isn't a way at all to vent about anything. You don't have to show every single disgusting thing to make people understand. And sharing the scenes could traumatise children for example.
Anyways, this is absolutely disgusting and shouldn't be labeled as "trauma art".
do u want a cookie
@@MhandleM I feel like you’re trying to to pick a fight with people who don’t see your way.
@@MhandleM No need, but thank you i guess for asking :]
@@mysryuza I'm not sure about that, but thanks for feeling concerned :]
Freedom of expression is not the same as freedom from consequences or criticism... if that makes sense.
fax
What consequences?
@@tigerfestivals5137 People thinking your a creep and or a bad person.
@@tigerfestivals5137 Good point actually, like what consequences would a SFW artist get? I'm guessing the consequences come with the personality/actions of the artist rather than the art
She was getting harrassed, and almost doxxed, which I don't think is legal :/ and many many people where spreading misinformation about her. She may be stupid as fuck(in some regard) but that doesn't mean she deserves more trauma to add to her existing one because some people didn't like her art and felt the need to harrass her.
Vent art is valid. You have every right to draw your trauma, etc. There's nothing wrong with THAT. What IS wrong is putting it on a public platform to be consumed either willingly or unwillingly. You can't control what happened to you in the past and you can't really be shamed for doing what you need to do to cope IN PRIVATE or between you and your therapist. It's when you thrust that shit onto other people and fling it into public spaces where it can HARM OTHERS does it become an issue. TL;DR: So the "my trauma art tho" excuse doesn't fly sorry strwabuddy
That why there is a warning.
exactly, even looking at my old trauma art triggered me a little, and I'm pretty stable atm. I can't imagine what would happen if people who get triggered by that kind of stuff saw it.
If they want to post it it's fine though explicitly tagging it should do the trick. I think that’s fair at least.
Also, the internet isn't even a safe place to begin with, especially for those who are mentally ill.
Not to mention she's literally profiting off of her "trauma art" :|
Its one thing if she was doing this in private with a therapist but putting it up for the whole world to see is iffy, and making money off of it makes it SO much worse
9:14
I was caught so off guard when you said splatoon manga
I have like-
so many questions-
I love coroika so much-
Fun fact: Aggy once unironically said MAP rights, fucking ew
I think the difference between strawberry's art and actual trauma art, even in depicting the same themes, is that hers is too aesthetically pleasing and "clean," if that makes sense. It lacks the intensity of someone going through a traumatic moment, like being messy or distressing to look at. Hers is very deliberate and includes anime blushes.
I think tramua art can be anything tbh but it gets fucked when you're genuinely selling it especially if it involves minors smashing ect
hey lol i'm someone who does try to make my trauma art pleasing to the eyes. u know why? it calms me down n allows me to concentrate all my negative emotions into smth 'pretty'
so while what aggy is doing is VERY wrong, ur claim is incorrect bcuz there is a lot of trauma/vent art that looks pleasing to the eyes
The thing about drawing trauma art is that… you really don’t have to post it. Why put out content that allows creeps to groom kids and hurt them in the same way you were hurt? Not posting vent art is still therapeutic and doesn’t perpetuate the cycle. Just my thoughts but… calling it a coping mechanism doenst excuse the content
No, bcs this can sometimes enforce feelings that our trauma art is something that is repulsive and needs to be hidden which can be harmful to victims.
plus, youre not responsible for creeps using your content to groom kids. thats like saying candy stores are responsible for kids getting kidnapped for "free candy". please be careful with your wording bcs it almost sounds like youre making an excuse for the pedophile in a "well if this art didnt exist then little timmy wouldnt have gotten groomed"
Yenrisan if your trauma art involves kids doing sexual things then it IS repulsive and needs to be hidden??? What’s not clicking 😐
@Navinci art isnt reality. art therapy is supported by therapists. if i can draw violent imagery like jason vorhees killing teens then i dont rly see why sexual art is any different. wouldnt both be seen as depictions of "child abuse". i used to be naive like you until i spoke to my therapist and they helped me realize that the desire to creat trauma art that fetishizes my trauma is natural bcs creating art like that is a way survivors can recreate our trauma and feel empowered by the power we wield to write the stories within our boundaries and comfortability.
Yenrisan I’m sure that if you told your therapist that your trauma Art/coping mechanisms involved imagery of children being sexual or sexually abused then they’d disagree. Being vague about it or not showing your therapist what is really going on isn’t healthy and you’d learn quickly that this content isn’t healthy to consume. Drawing gore or murder content is different, as the purpose of that imagery is to shock or disgust, but cp is used to excite sexually. It’s not the same. And if kids being abused is within your comfort zone, maybe you should talk to your therapist a bit more
@@SimpleChaos i second that
I don't understand how she can get away with drawing LITERAL CHILD PORN and labeling it "vent or trauma art"
And it’s crazy that people just forget that the law (at least in the USA) says that drawn CP is STILL CP. If it is specifically drawn in a way that is meant to arouse (Like StwawbwewyMilk’s art) it is a form of CP. But something artistic like the paintings of Cherubs and such (which are not meant to arouse) does not count as CP. Literally Fetish CP art IS STILL CP.
TLDR; Law says drawn CP is still CP
3:29 I don't think incest is something "average to draw" XD
Tell that to the devs making The Coffin of Andy and Leyley lol
@@TylerFNF Oh I forgot about them lol
@@marithecookie6791 XD
Aaaand THIS is why I avoid Twitter! The good doesn’t outweigh the bad, hell the good couldn’t outweigh a FEATHER.
I’m a strong believer in artist freedom and being able to create anything you want, but that comes with criticism too. If someone wants to draw minors in sexually explicit ways, they deserve every heap of flack they get.
If you think people deserve death threats over art then fuck you.
This is the best take so far, imo.
@@Phos67 They weren't talking about death threats?? I think they're saying that if you draw fetish or sexually explicit art of children, you should expect to get criticized for it. Not harassed, not doxxed; criticized.
And I'm sorry, but Aggy isn't exactly the kindest person ever. Of course she's gonna get called out for it.
@@dixienormus769 Nope. They said you deserve every ounce of flack you get for it. That didn't sound like it exluded the death threats.
@@Phos67 it doesn't sound like it includes death threats either, but I understand where you're coming from. Unfortunately you cannot prove that OP condones harassment/death threats being sent towards the creator unless they themselves specify, but it's generally considered that the artist should expect to receive backlash for the content they post, excluding harassment.
4:37 WAIT HOL UP ARE WE JUST GONNA IGNORE THE FACT THAT SHE HAS MORE THAN 1M BELLS-
I got 2m come at me bro
@@UmbrellaCorporationFiredMe ok 🔫🔫
@@UmbrellaCorporationFiredMe I didn’t now there were Bill Gates in animal crossing share your secrets lol
@@veryweirdbunny8303 I robbed my mom’s bells 💀
im a csa survivor and i draw vent art abt it but i never post that stuff bc i dont think it should be shown around and bc someone could see it as something its not
"Do not diddle kids, its no good diddling kids" - Frank Reynolds
Iconic
No little kids, gotta be big!
Taller than my daughter, older than my wife!
Something like that..
"Gotta be big, not a little kid, older than my wife, older than my daughter." - Frank Reynolds
I agree that this art is 100% not okay, it's sickening to look at and if it is trauma art like SM claims, why post it online? Or at least have some sort of warning. This kind of art could be triggering for other child SA survivors. Trauma art to this extreme should be shown to your therapist, not to thousands of weirdos online that fetishize this crap.
Don’t assume that all CSA survivors will be triggered by this type of art, please, and thank you.
@@mac-n-cheese158 It didn't seem like they did, given that they said "other survivors" and not "every other survivor."
I can get how the sentence could be misinterpreted though.
@@mac-n-cheese158 I didn't say 'all' now, did I? I was speaking specifically about the SA survivors that could be triggered by this, not every single survivor individually. Please don't disregard the SA survivors that could be offended by this.
please dont speak for csa survivors like myself k thnx bye
Yenrisan did you even the replies above you? Tf
I'm sorry call me homophobic or transphobic idc but your gender or sexuality does not give you the right to sexualize minors or do what others aren't allowed to do.
that doesn’t make you homophobic or transphobic at all…I totally agree.
@Oranges because some ppl are just dumb or sensitive like that trust me when I say ppl have called me rude things over common sense
Nah as a member of the lgbtq that doesn’t make you a homophobe/transphobe at all. It makes you correct. Regardless of gender or sexuality *YOU CANNOT DRAW CP*
@@UmbrellaCorporationFiredMe fr ppl be like '" its okay if the kid youre drawing isnt real" like im sorry what?
Thats not homophobic or transphobic at all, and you're totally right.
4:23 did you know that the consumption of it is also illegal?
I’m someone who uses age regression as a coping mechanism for stuff that happened In the past, I don’t like when people think I’m talking about it as a kinky thing, cause for me it’s not a kink, its a coping mechanism...I hope someone understands what I’m talking about ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
Stay safe and have a wonderful day/night
Same, I sometimes use it as a coping mechanism for whenever I go to sleep or something.
Infantilism and agere are two different things.
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as a sex abuse survivor who uses my art to vent about it, her art is fetish art. i cant see it any other way its just that disgusting
3:26 some of those things still wouldn’t be ok even if they weren’t children.
Especially when its a real person
trauma art is also not posted on the internet. I know some people romanticize their own abuse because their mind wants to twist up that memory to make it seem less horrible, and that is like the only reason I can think of where drawing shit like that is ok, but its not something you should post on the internet, even if it is real legitimate therapy art
Another CSA survivor here, I can kind of understand if these are in fact vents and trauma art but why would anyone post that kind of thing publicly if you know it could trigger someone else.
People can draw what ever they want but there is always a line that under no sercomstants should be crost. Also I love your new sprite.
Then they arent allowed to draw whatever they want, only what you think is acceptable
+Mallic Or maybe just don’t draw kids in sexually explicit ways, that doesn’t seem very hard to me
Although it’s unpopular to say it, I believe artistic freedom should consider the option of drawing anything no matter the morale. One should be able to draw murder, gore or rape. Art doesn’t have to be morally right, why do people feel like it has to?
+Cinnamon You should be allowed to draw anything you want, but I also think that if you draw taboo things like pedophilia and rape, you should understand that you will probably also receive criticism and backlash.
Rape just isnt right. we can draw what we want but drawing kids like? It's even worse!
I love how literally not even 2 seconds in
She says "Yeah Yeah, you both can simp for this new look later"
this is my first video i watched and I’m in love with everything!!time to binge watch this whole channel 🥲
Do you think, God stays in heaven because he’s afraid of what he created?
Nah he already knew Satan won
@@shipperina2213 JSJFWJJDAJQU NO
Video is done. *TIME TO SIMP.*
Simp for who?
@@ruthsevere8128 new sprites :)
@@_godsayshi what new sprites
@@ruthsevere8128 0:01
I hate that her art style is so nice. I can’t believe I just admitted that. But still. I hate her kind of art, but her art style itself is pretty visually pleasing. I’m having an emotional struggle here.
Their name is “stwawbwewymilk” wow how cwingey
*Theiw
Not to mention that stwawbewwymilk is a manchild
i knwow wight
I agwee with u
0:38 your animal crossing gameplay hurts me
Shut up toasty
It's hard to get the shovel in the right spot
Pog
Lol
Man, 2020 was wild
I personally dont find much wrong with lolicon/shotacon (im into lolicon personally, no shame)
The problem is when you try to disguise it as trauma or vent art, because that can imply that you're trying to hide something, which is concerning (and also gives bad rep to trauma and vent art)
BONUS:
I also agree that some people can get a bit heated when defending lolicon/shotacon.
I personally dont mind if people find us weird, i understand, and im open to discussing this with someone (as long as there's no toxicity, we're adults here). But deep down, many of us are just tired of being called pedos or disgusting for topics like this.
Still, im not excusing them, and i admit we still need to grow up as a community if we want our opinion to be heard.
I also liked how you deliver your points, the animal crossing gameplay, and your oc looks really cute.
Overall: amazing vid
@@Jynxxx5someone draws a child character getting fucked and says it’s trauma art even if they don’t have trauma relating to that in some way
If you know that your art comes from a place that is... traumatic, and that shows things that are very taboo and uncomfortable to talk about, would the correct place to share that art be a very public platform... and not with like... a therapist, people you trust, people you consider family that are helping you through these things?
Especially when your art features um..that...and youre bringing it on a platform notorious for having a p*** problem like twitter. I mean i understand you dont control who your audience is but still...
You actually make a great point.
@@somerandomcommenteryoufoun7485 what do you mean by a corn (with a P if you catch my drift) problem?
This statement kind of confuses me and I would like it if you elaborate on what you mean.
@@drifterduckygaming4646 m*nor attracted people
some random commenter you found yeah, like if you know that’s something that could happen you shouldn’t do it
I feel like milk is using "trauma art" as an excuse for it being gross. While trauma art is a real exercise but the way they do it doesn't seem like it aside from maybe some of puppymilk which I haven't actually read.
just say you dont support the ways survivors cope bcs it doesnt suite your sensitive tastes lmao
@@chaotic_despot I don't even have sensitive tastes its just they draw cp and the wrong kind of people indulge in it. They say its trauma art but actual pedos on twitter don't see that and just see a kid fucking a plushie and jack off to it. And it seems like they find some weird pleasure out of it. You can't say them saying people only hate them cause their trans isn't a lil sketch. Sounds a lil like Jessica yaniv if you remember them using trangenderism as an excuse for being a pedophile and all around trash person.
@@chaotic_despot the harm is impressionable people may see the fiction and think "sounds reasonable" and go on to think its OK. Like the girls who tried to kill their friend for slenderman, or a more harmless version: kids who tried jumping off tall objects with an umbrella to imitate fortnite. And its not just kids who can get the idea its OK. Ever heard of loli content? You know the fan base who indulges in it? Grown ass adult men who think its ok.
And while yes sfw spaces aren't free of creeps nsfw spaces are more likely to attract them. Seriously do you know what its like to own an nsfw account? People think just because you draw or post nsfw its OK to harass and message you weird shit. If that vocal minority is as large and prevelant to where its a common issue just imagine the silent majority in the shadows getting the idea its OK to look at child porn cause "its not hurting anyone".
People need to stop saying "oh well its a drawing so its not real" when people will use fiction as surrogates for their own thoughts and emotions. You ever hate a character? Love a character? Got sad when a character died? Its like that but they get sexual pleasure from an underage or visually immature character that their brain interprets as a person to an extent. So what happens if the brain sees real children like that as well? Fiction is not completely separate from reality. Farfetched and seemingly unrelated subjects could be linked to the real world just in a different context.
@@LamisonJamison bruh, i aint fuckin reading all that.
do not make excuses for abusers by saying "oh well if this content didnt exist then ppl wouldnt have done bad things" its not fortnite's fault that kids are stupid and jump off things bcs their parents dont pay attention.
and the girls who stabbed that little girl were fully responsible for what they did.
you trying to assign blame to the fiction bcs ppl might be "enabled" by it is the same as boomers who think video games are to blame for school shootings.
stop making excuses for pedophiles and abusers. they are fully to blame for their actions, not the fiction they consume that is created for an audience who know not to endorse such acts in real life.
@@chaotic_despot "I ain't fucking reading all that" the wtf do you want me to do? If you refuse to listen then this argument is pointless and you're unwilling to learn. Fuck off
Map will never be apart of the lgbtq community
As someone who is also a victim of THAT type of abuse, I say she is disgusting. That is so wrong. You are 10000009% valid.
I had no idea who this person was until this video, so I did the absolute stupidest thing I could do and looked her up.
And oh my god it's even worse than I thought. I need brain bleach...
Soooo I'll take that as a warning and not look her up
@@maximumforce8275 I would guess don't look it up if you don't know what 177013 is, not gatekeeping or anythi- no wait I am but at least it's to prevent a shortage on brain bleach.
We've already had a national shortage on toilet paper, we don't need another economic decline.
@@drifterduckygaming4646 what is it, now I'm curious
@@drifterduckygaming4646 oh the metamorphosis? Sorry I'm not familiar with those website numbers. Dont go on it.
@@maximumforce8275 metamorphosis is pretty tame imo. I was expecting "mai chan's daily life" levels of fucked up when i read it but it was kinda meh. Great art tho.
i brought this up to the artist and her cronies attacked me.
her cronies have silenced multiple of other creators for expressing their opinions. it's gross
Something i find ironic about this video is that the first two shows that come to mind when i think about child n*dity in media is big mouth and south park, two shows which you have done speedpaints for. god the irony is insane
I don't like Big Mouth
@@MissZiZibut south park?
@@niconicot1ne Not defending stwawbwewymilk (or trying to start a fight) but doesnt SP also cover a lot of darker topics involving child characters? Like I think Cartman just casually mentions being a victim of SA for laughs, or children doing sexual things to one another and its meant to be funny
@@shipper-of-heart8898 yea exactly
As a minor im disgusted by how people my age get s3xu4l1z3d in so many ways because other people are satisfied by that.There is a difference between vent art and just s3xu4l1z1ng
Yo it's alright dawg, you ain't alone, I'm a minor too, and I agree with you completely
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Miss zizi makes me depressed in a good way
As a CSA and abuse survivor I’ve never felt the need to draw vent art to cope, I do art to help me escape bad mindsets and to cope, drawing stuff that reminds me of those negative feelings or events that happened just push me in the opposite direction. However, I support those who decide to, because, idk it’s not my art therefore it’s not my choice what someone else draws? But with that in mind I feel like if you post vent/trauma art online you should at the least add trigger warnings or tags or some kind of filter so that if it’s something that bothers others they can avoid it, I think it’s obvious that if it’s something that bothers you to the point of venting you should kind of expect it might be triggering to others and that’s kind of something you should avoid.
Why Trauma Art is often more colorful, from the perspective of a person who's therapist told her to do it 'cuz it might help (it did, btw):
It's easier to express what happened through more abstract concepts sometimes. Concepts like color association. Red isn't always the right color for the situation. Sometimes blue or even green fit better depending on what it is you're trying to portray. One of the pieces I did for these sessions was entirely unlike my normal style, consisting only of blobs of differing colors, because the emotional impact of the thing I was trying to portray was too great for defined lines and shapes to express.
me: *remembers my old used to be ~Strawberrys_milk~
Me: *cries*
3:16 wait a damn minute... drawing incest and molestation is okay if it’s with adults???..?.??
Laspada art community on crack wtf
My feelings exactly
8 mean it is better with adults but it is still not okay
*yes*