This watch is my favorite in my small collection. It is beautiful without being showy and pretentious. I miss the date function, but having it (and the cyclops) would ruin the symmetry and perfect look of the dial. And the pushers on the side, surrounding the crown, look so cool to me. I’m seriously considering selling every other watch I own because I only want to wear this particular watch, and that includes in both casual and dressy attire.
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How many other watches do you have? I'm curious because, as a former Sub owner, I know a lot of Sub, GMT, or Daytona owners are happy with just 1 do it all watch, that was certainly me.
rnunez70681 I have a GMT, a Sub, and a YM 40. Of these the YM 40 is my favorite. It has a very similar case to the Daytona and also a date function, so it’s good at work. The GMT and Sub are quite bulky, and that can be a little annoying.
@@scottrodgers9073 Yes, that's why I sold my Sub. I wasn't enjoying wearing it. A little down the road I'm going to look for either a 40mm Explorer II, or a Daytona. I can't make up my mind. I like both. I think they are both very wearable
rnunez70681 the Daytona is so comfortable, you hardly notice it. And yet when you look at it, you just can’t believe you have something that special. It’s spectacular and as close to perfect as a watch can be.
I own this one, the white dial, and the yellow gold emerald green dial. This one is rich and regal, the white dial is crisp and pops, and the YG green dial is out of this world. Love them all.
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damachine3 I was offered a Blaken Daytona recently. It was nice but side by side I think the steel factory Daytona is much more attractive. Also the price was out of this world.
No, it has never been, which leads me to believe that one day it'll be more collectible probably. On ebay the black face starts around 19k now. The white face around 22k, both pre-owned. I'm saving for one, hoping that in a few more years they'll be around 16k. And I have a hard time picking between the black or white
@@MonicaHolly143 Their retail is around 14k. How many years you will have to wait depends on how good of a customer for Rolex you are. If you have a relationship with a Rolex AD and you have gotten pieces from them then you will probably wait less than 1 year. If you don't have a relationship with an AD I doubt they will even take your name for a waiting list. I know guys that had to buy from the grey market because that was the only way.
Hi Tim! Amazing video as always! As an expert yourself and having seen this model and the white dial variant up close, which would be your preference and why? Which is more eye-catching/attractive? Thanks.
Do you like the Rolex Daytona? The earlier versions with the steel bezel annoyed me with their propensity to show scratches but they've really come into their own since going ceramic.
@Tim, 1 question my good Sir. I love the Daytona and I'm saving for one, but I hate 2 tone bracelets (I hate the polished center links). Do you know if the Sub, or Explorer II bracelet can be used on the Daytona case? Thank you.
have had my two GMTs bracelets brushed. If a Rolex jeweler will not do it, there are plenty of watch restoration businesses that will. Try those used by grey dealers who use them to restore used watches and then call them mint. I also use a fibreglass brush to satinise the tops of the winder guards.
Is not better Mate. Zenith is a great brand, and El Primero a great movement. And if you are happy with your watch, then great, look and say no further. But many of us aspire to the Daytona because of the design and the history. And I hate the fact that they cost a lot more than msrp to get one (if you can't get put on a waiting list like me). But that's the only way to get one unfortunately. My dream car is the 911 (which I can't afford), my favorite car is the Mustang GT, which I will be able to afford and is a great car, but it's not the 911. I will still buy the GT because I really like it and I won't feel like I'm settling by buying it. If I do get a Zenith El Primero (which I don't like, but I can afford right now) instead of a Daytona (that I'm saving for but it'll take a few years) then I would feel like I'm settling.
I’ve owned them all from Rolex Daytona’s, Submariners, Panerai, Omega, Cartier. The Zenith looks better and works better. Bang for buck, unbeatable. Having said that, we are all different I suppose. Having owned various Rolex watches, I find them a little dull.
@@robertdeieso I seriously considered an El Primero a few years back, but the 42mm case and thickness turned me off, so I pulled the trigger on another Sub, which I recently sold because I finally realized I just did not enjoy wearing it. Having said that, I am now considering the Hand Wound El Primero black dial Chronograph from the 90s. 38mm, black dial, large arabic numbers, manual wound, it just ticks a lot of boxes for me.
The Zenith is a wonderful watch ... but the Daytona is the most sought after watch of the last 35 years. Only, as of late, has one watch become more sought after - the Nautilus 5711 with blue dial. But over time, no watch has ever been so revered by the watch world (and general public). I hate to say it, but 99% of the population has never even heard of Zenith. There is a reason why the Daytona is THE LEGEND.
Hey guys, did I mess up? My AD asked me if I wanted white dial or black and I picked the black lol. I just love black dial but white is more hype. Wear what you like right? In one year I have been able to get a DateJust a Sprite and in a week a Black Daytona, am I doing good? What should I go for next? Not tryna flex just asking guys. Thanks for any advice and take care.
They dropped in price around March/April because of the pandemic. People were selling off their luxury items and they were priced to sell. I bought a mint white dial 116500LN from WatchBox with box and papers with 2 yrs left on the factory warranty for $22,000. They’ve already come back up to basically where they were before ($24k-$26k and above for watches with stickers still on). The black dials sell for $2k less on average than the white dial.
Anyone having the same issue as me. The black ceramic bezel is always catching moister or oil or I do not know what it is. but close up my black dial always feel like it's got a white color coat on top. Its like I always have hand lotion on my ceramic bezel.
There will always be some sort of waiting list for a stainless steel Daytona. I doubt we will ever see these pieces just sitting in show cases at ADs. I was able to purchase a 2015 116520 model from my AD at the end of 2015. Even then before all this craze, I had to sit on a list for a about a month! I didn’t know at the time that there was such a thing as “waiting” for a watch that I was willing to spend money on! Normally, I’d be trying to get some kind of discount! The world may go back to a more “obtainable, normalized” way of doing business with these hard to get pieces, but not by much. There are still a lot of people in the world that can come up with $13,500 U.S. (there about) dollars to get one of these from an AD. Easier to obtain one? Perhaps. Readily available at most ADs? Not a chance. Rolex can, and will regulate the tap to control its prestige. They answer to nobody but themselves.
I'm saving for one too, but since I didn't qualify to be put on a wait list because I'm not a "customer" I'll have to spend after market price. I have seen the black dial go down from around 22k a few months ago to 19k in ebay right now, I'm sure in a couple more years it'll be closer to 16k. Still above msrp, but better than having to buy 2 other rolexes to be put on a list.
@@rayleeaustralia The waiting list on the PP is a relatively new affair. I remember than only a few years ago one could get an aquanut on ebay for less than 15k. I actually seriously considered saving for one for a time. One could also get a Nautilus on ebay for less than 20k. The waiting list on the Daytona has been going on for decades. One has always been able to buy kne right away, but it's going to cost a lot more than MSRP. In some sense, Rolex is responsible for the increased demand of the PP steel models. Even AP has seen an increase on demand on the RO due to this. But Rolex and PP are not stupid and they will continue to control supply of the steel models, I understand the philosophy behind PP doing this, since Terry Stern himself has admitted he reigns in production on steel. But for Rolex, I see this as a betrayal of it's roots, since most of the sales were from "tool" watches in the past, but now they would rather be seen as a "luxury" brand (which is not) and would rather push gold and 2 tone models and limit steel. But most of the gold and 2 tone models are, cough cough, ugly. But I do have to admit that the day date is a classic.
Wouldn't pay double the list price out of principle! Don't care how scarce they are! Flippers and dealers like your company are ruining the market for the person who want's one! supply and demand get it but...
Wrong. Blame Rolex on the production numbers which is extremely smart. I got on a list at my AD right away and got a black dial at retail in 6 months. Try harder.
Great review but much prefer the white dial!! Full disclosure I have the white dial and love the elegance of the case and watch as compared the my modern Subs!!
A question my good Sir, do you know if the Daytona case can accommodate the Sub bracelet? I'm saving for a Daytona right now but I don't like the 2 tone bracelet (polished links are not my thing).
rnunez70681 I’ve never actually tried it but it certainly looks like it should and you get the added benefit of the glide lock which is much better. Myself I love the shiny bits lol
Rather have a Speedmaster. More heritage and never relied on Zenith to produce its Daytona movements unlike Rolex. AND none of this ridiculous deliberate restriction in supply to bump up prices.
@@tyngshen28 Until 1968. Not until the year 2000. And certainly people weren't being fleeced by the brand saying: "you need to be a good customer of the Rolex dealer, or you have to buy at least 2 gold Rolex variants, before you qualify for a more sought after (i.e. artificially suppressed distribution) model"
Frankly I do not understand the hysteria around this watch, I think the Daytona is grossly over-rated as a watch and the grey market pricing is obscene! There are far, far better watches out there for less money, why do people leap so enthusiastically onto a band wagon rather than show some individuality? I could get a solid rose gold Girard Perregaux chronograph for half the money this costs and it’s in a different league of finishing and useable complications.... pfft...
This watch is my favorite in my small collection. It is beautiful without being showy and pretentious. I miss the date function, but having it (and the cyclops) would ruin the symmetry and perfect look of the dial. And the pushers on the side, surrounding the crown, look so cool to me. I’m seriously considering selling every other watch I own because I only want to wear this particular watch, and that includes in both casual and dressy attire.
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How many other watches do you have? I'm curious because, as a former Sub owner, I know a lot of Sub, GMT, or Daytona owners are happy with just 1 do it all watch, that was certainly me.
rnunez70681 I have a GMT, a Sub, and a YM 40. Of these the YM 40 is my favorite. It has a very similar case to the Daytona and also a date function, so it’s good at work. The GMT and Sub are quite bulky, and that can be a little annoying.
@@scottrodgers9073 Yes, that's why I sold my Sub. I wasn't enjoying wearing it. A little down the road I'm going to look for either a 40mm Explorer II, or a Daytona. I can't make up my mind. I like both. I think they are both very wearable
rnunez70681 the Daytona is so comfortable, you hardly notice it. And yet when you look at it, you just can’t believe you have something that special. It’s spectacular and as close to perfect as a watch can be.
When I order a watch, I just watch Toms videos watches over and over until it arrives.
It’s Tim.
The black is so much more masculine than the white. The white kinda looks like a woman’s watch to me.
Or gay guy
I can see your point . Black for me
Black is best, owned both and just couldn’t hang with the Panda 🐼
The E-Z Link Extension allows the adjustment in increments of roughly 1/2 a link (not 1 full link as mentioned here).
That extension link comes in Handy. Also that Ceramic Bezel pops like crazy if you keep it Clean!
The nicest Daytona ever made. 🙂
Happy Easter to all @ WatchBox..stay safe..be blessed
I own this one, the white dial, and the yellow gold emerald green dial. This one is rich and regal, the white dial is crisp and pops, and the YG green dial is out of this world. Love them all.
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damachine3 I was offered a Blaken Daytona recently. It was nice but side by side I think the steel factory Daytona is much more attractive. Also the price was out of this world.
Is the black face more desired than the white now?
No, it has never been, which leads me to believe that one day it'll be more collectible probably. On ebay the black face starts around 19k now. The white face around 22k, both pre-owned. I'm saving for one, hoping that in a few more years they'll be around 16k. And I have a hard time picking between the black or white
@@rnunez70681
What is the retail and how many years of waiting ??
@@MonicaHolly143 Their retail is around 14k. How many years you will have to wait depends on how good of a customer for Rolex you are. If you have a relationship with a Rolex AD and you have gotten pieces from them then you will probably wait less than 1 year. If you don't have a relationship with an AD I doubt they will even take your name for a waiting list. I know guys that had to buy from the grey market because that was the only way.
@@rnunez70681 There is no waiting list. If you aren't a preferred client, you will never get the call.
The date?
Tim why haven't you don the 126500s
Isn’t it 38mm?
Hi Tim! Amazing video as always! As an expert yourself and having seen this model and the white dial variant up close, which would be your preference and why? Which is more eye-catching/attractive? Thanks.
He said in the video he likes the black
He said in the video he likes the black
You are the Patrick Bateman of watchmen.
Do you like the Rolex Daytona? The earlier versions with the steel bezel annoyed me with their propensity to show scratches but they've really come into their own since going ceramic.
@Tim, 1 question my good Sir. I love the Daytona and I'm saving for one, but I hate 2 tone bracelets (I hate the polished center links). Do you know if the Sub, or Explorer II bracelet can be used on the Daytona case? Thank you.
I always get my polished links satinised.
@@michaelturner7949 Does that give you the brushed look similar to the side links?
have had my two GMTs bracelets brushed. If a Rolex jeweler will not do it, there are plenty of watch restoration businesses that will. Try those used by grey dealers who use them to restore used watches and then call them mint. I also use a fibreglass brush to satinise the tops of the winder guards.
You can get the Daytona with a rubber strap (oyster). Looks especially good with the silver face and black bezel
Just bought a Zenith Chronomaster El Primero which runs at 36000 beats per hour and gains 1 second per week! Tell me how the Rolex is better please.
Is not better Mate. Zenith is a great brand, and El Primero a great movement. And if you are happy with your watch, then great, look and say no further. But many of us aspire to the Daytona because of the design and the history. And I hate the fact that they cost a lot more than msrp to get one (if you can't get put on a waiting list like me). But that's the only way to get one unfortunately. My dream car is the 911 (which I can't afford), my favorite car is the Mustang GT, which I will be able to afford and is a great car, but it's not the 911. I will still buy the GT because I really like it and I won't feel like I'm settling by buying it. If I do get a Zenith El Primero (which I don't like, but I can afford right now) instead of a Daytona (that I'm saving for but it'll take a few years) then I would feel like I'm settling.
I’ve owned them all from Rolex Daytona’s, Submariners, Panerai, Omega, Cartier. The Zenith looks better and works better. Bang for buck, unbeatable. Having said that, we are all different I suppose. Having owned various Rolex watches, I find them a little dull.
@@robertdeieso I seriously considered an El Primero a few years back, but the 42mm case and thickness turned me off, so I pulled the trigger on another Sub, which I recently sold because I finally realized I just did not enjoy wearing it. Having said that, I am now considering the Hand Wound El Primero black dial Chronograph from the 90s. 38mm, black dial, large arabic numbers, manual wound, it just ticks a lot of boxes for me.
Zenith El Primero looks good but that big and bulky case is a huge turn off.
The Zenith is a wonderful watch ... but the Daytona is the most sought after watch of the last 35 years. Only, as of late, has one watch become more sought after - the Nautilus 5711 with blue dial. But over time, no watch has ever been so revered by the watch world (and general public). I hate to say it, but 99% of the population has never even heard of Zenith. There is a reason why the Daytona is THE LEGEND.
Hey guys, did I mess up? My AD asked me if I wanted white dial or black and I picked the black lol. I just love black dial but white is more hype. Wear what you like right? In one year I have been able to get a DateJust a Sprite and in a week a Black Daytona, am I doing good? What should I go for next? Not tryna flex just asking guys. Thanks for any advice and take care.
Everyone says have a good relationship with your AD and I think thats what I have done. At the end of the day, they are human just like us.
Hey Tim! Great review as always. You mentioned that you prefer the black dial Daytona over the white. May I know why?
Because he’s a man’s man. Real mean don’t wear white dial watches.
Seeing these for under $19k for the first time in a while.
Where at ? And how much did they usually go for ?
lol where?
Perché in inglese? Parlate in italiano
They dropped in price around March/April because of the pandemic. People were selling off their luxury items and they were priced to sell. I bought a mint white dial 116500LN from WatchBox with box and papers with 2 yrs left on the factory warranty for $22,000. They’ve already come back up to basically where they were before ($24k-$26k and above for watches with stickers still on). The black dials sell for $2k less on average than the white dial.
Michael Fleming you said $19,000 lol.
Anyone having the same issue as me. The black ceramic bezel is always catching moister or oil or I do not know what it is. but close up my black dial always feel like it's got a white color coat on top. Its like I always have hand lotion on my ceramic bezel.
sorry not its not 40mm
This is on my list, whenever's available without waiting list. I can wait! And if never happens so be it.
There will always be some sort of waiting list for a stainless steel Daytona. I doubt we will ever see these pieces just sitting in show cases at ADs. I was able to purchase a 2015 116520 model from my AD at the end of 2015. Even then before all this craze, I had to sit on a list for a about a month! I didn’t know at the time that there was such a thing as “waiting” for a watch that I was willing to spend money on! Normally, I’d be trying to get some kind of discount!
The world may go back to a more “obtainable, normalized” way of doing business with these hard to get pieces, but not by much. There are still a lot of people in the world that can come up with $13,500 U.S. (there about) dollars to get one of these from an AD. Easier to obtain one? Perhaps. Readily available at most ADs? Not a chance. Rolex can, and will regulate the tap to control its prestige. They answer to nobody but themselves.
I'm saving for one too, but since I didn't qualify to be put on a wait list because I'm not a "customer" I'll have to spend after market price. I have seen the black dial go down from around 22k a few months ago to 19k in ebay right now, I'm sure in a couple more years it'll be closer to 16k. Still above msrp, but better than having to buy 2 other rolexes to be put on a list.
Interestingly no one ever seems to complain about the waiting list of a steel PP😅
@@rayleeaustralia The waiting list on the PP is a relatively new affair. I remember than only a few years ago one could get an aquanut on ebay for less than 15k. I actually seriously considered saving for one for a time. One could also get a Nautilus on ebay for less than 20k. The waiting list on the Daytona has been going on for decades. One has always been able to buy kne right away, but it's going to cost a lot more than MSRP. In some sense, Rolex is responsible for the increased demand of the PP steel models. Even AP has seen an increase on demand on the RO due to this. But Rolex and PP are not stupid and they will continue to control supply of the steel models, I understand the philosophy behind PP doing this, since Terry Stern himself has admitted he reigns in production on steel. But for Rolex, I see this as a betrayal of it's roots, since most of the sales were from "tool" watches in the past, but now they would rather be seen as a "luxury" brand (which is not) and would rather push gold and 2 tone models and limit steel. But most of the gold and 2 tone models are, cough cough, ugly. But I do have to admit that the day date is a classic.
rnunez70681 I’m on the list, told less than 5 years I have left to wait now
the bezel hanging over the case is terrible, glad they fixed it on the new 2023 model
Se c'è l' ho. Lo vendo subito per un Omega Moonwatch calibro 321
Это что за часы, Зенит или амега, сколько стоит оптом сто штук если возьму?
why is it nicknamed “GODZILLA” ?
Wouldn't pay double the list price out of principle! Don't care how scarce they are! Flippers and dealers like your company are ruining the market for the person who want's one! supply and demand get it but...
David Plon they’re scalpers, just like at concerts. That’s the way the world works. btw I don’t really like it either, but what ya gonna do?
amen
Wrong. Blame Rolex on the production numbers which is extremely smart. I got on a list at my AD right away and got a black dial at retail in 6 months. Try harder.
You pay the price because that's what the going rate is. You pay a premium for diamonds but if you could go to Africa and buy them from the supplier??
My ultimate dream
King of watches
How match boss
Dude slow the down
Great review but much prefer the white dial!! Full disclosure I have the white dial and love the elegance of the case and watch as compared the my modern Subs!!
A question my good Sir, do you know if the Daytona case can accommodate the Sub bracelet? I'm saving for a Daytona right now but I don't like the 2 tone bracelet (polished links are not my thing).
rnunez70681 I’ve never actually tried it but it certainly looks like it should and you get the added benefit of the glide lock which is much better. Myself I love the shiny bits lol
@@andrewgiblin3468 Interesting. I know the lug spacing is the same but the case designs of both are different, that's why I wonder.
Tim bored and sprinting here.
Someone fucked up the screws badly, damn
Rather have a Speedmaster. More heritage and never relied on Zenith to produce its Daytona movements unlike Rolex. AND none of this ridiculous deliberate restriction in supply to bump up prices.
speedmaster relied on lemania though.....
@@tyngshen28 Until 1968. Not until the year 2000. And certainly people weren't being fleeced by the brand saying: "you need to be a good customer of the Rolex dealer, or you have to buy at least 2 gold Rolex variants, before you qualify for a more sought after (i.e. artificially suppressed distribution) model"
But it's not a Rolex though!
Special snowflake
The steel bezel much more classy, the ceramic feels a bit tag heuer
Couldn’t disagree more.
Tag heuer usually uses a steel or gold bezel mate
Frankly I do not understand the hysteria around this watch, I think the Daytona is grossly over-rated as a watch and the grey market pricing is obscene! There are far, far better watches out there for less money, why do people leap so enthusiastically onto a band wagon rather than show some individuality? I could get a solid rose gold Girard Perregaux chronograph for half the money this costs and it’s in a different league of finishing and useable complications.... pfft...
Then do it. People buy luxury goods to show off. You can't show off a GP because frankly no one cares about GP at this point in time.
Rolex Daytona with no date is worth for nothing.
Apart from someone who doesn't give a fuck what the date of the month it is!
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Too Small
Uboats or Kennth Cole watches are probably more your speed. They should go well with your Vans and skinny jeans.
@@986C lmao
Rolex, common, generic luxury. One of many, too many.