Reacting To YOUR Awful Redstone Hot Takes
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2023
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It's time to bring in @Purplers and @Sloimay again to react to some redstone things in Minecraft and rip off @CorridorCrew. This time we looked at how wrong you guys are about redstone, piston doors, farms, youtube, and everything in between. @MrCube6 will be in the next redstoners react I swear...
thank you @sammyuri for your clickbaity redstone build :)
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I had some CRAZY responses in this video! Man I was spitting fire bro ngl
you inspire me cube. Your dialect in this video was so inspirational
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@@sethsmith2608 Really the essence of participation right there, 💯
Ngl i didn’t notice you were an armor stand until halfway through the video
@@sabapm6812 I didn't notice it until my third time watching the video 💀
What I love about redstone is how out of left field the big builds are. If you find someone who has never heard of Minecraft, plop them in a world for a bit, and then ask them what the extreme players do, most people could probably predict grand architecture, speed runs, pvp, and challenges. But they most likely won’t guess “you can use those things that open doors and push blocks to make a computer that plays another video game”.
I have a hard time taking Purplers seriously with his spyglass shoved in his skull above his nose
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I would say the only blocks that aren't redstone components are blocks that literally function as every other solid block in the game, like deepslate or stone. Even grass blocks can be redstone components. You can use it with a sheep and observer to make a random pulse generator.
This is basically "every unique block is redstone". And you are kinda right.
I do think it is necessary that those blocks can interact with other blocks. If grass blocks didn't cause block/state updates, it wouldn't be redstone.
grass can also be used as a timer or a light level detector
But considering moss and now skulk, there are broad categories for interactions even for solid blocks.
Considering observers should be able to detect when silverfish enter stone blocks (due to the block ID physically changing), even stone style blocks could be considered to have some unique properties for random detection, though I can't say I know what that would be useful for aside from maybe turning a stronghold silverfish spawner into an XP farm that can store silverfish for later so they don't affect the mob cap, but it wouldn't really be all that worth it I don't think.
If everything is redstone, nothing is redstone. You don't have a random pulse. You have a random block update and that's detected by a redstone component.
Cube is the hero of the video. His character arc was truly inspiring
what?? cube wasn't in the video??
@@oTimex that's... the point. His armor stand was there so it's a joke
@@oTimex r/woooosh
I define redstone components as those that can directly interact with redstone, something that can only interact with redstone via comparator is not a redstone component, but is a redstone adjacent component.
So it can't be JUST input
I think very similar.
Direct: interacts with dust
Indirect: interacts with any direct component
Block: solid blocks that do nothing special
@@ImpossibleEvan I don't understand, if it is what I think, redstone block is a direct component by ky definition.
@@ImpossibleEvan or output
some components can also output signals based on states of non-redstone-things, but that does make these components components, and not the non-redstone things which their signal depends on (like pressure plates, buttons, comparators, the rails which output redstone when a minecart is on them, observers or a trapped chest.
@@genio2509 but than pigs are indirect redstone components because they activate pressure plates
arrows are indirect redstone components because they activate buttons
players are indirect redstone components because they can open trapped chests
never thought one of my builds would end up in a crafty video lol.
I also really like you guy's answer on the differences between java and bedrock's redstone mechanics. Its not that one is bad, its just that people are not used to it.
that door was fire
Also, bedrock redstone is just bad
can it be good when there are sometimes no rules how exactly it behavea
It is bad tho. You dont want randomness when using redstone. Thats like doing math where 2+2 = 4 but sometimes 2+2 = 5.
I play on Bedrock edition most of the time, but the redstone is actually random and broken on this version. Despite me being a Bedrock player, I believe that Java redstone is better.
When debating "what is a redstone component?" some extra clause clearly has to be written for the comparator, as it can, in a way, turn non-redstone blocks into redstone components. it is the bridge between the mundane and the technical. obviously the comparator itself is included, but the comparator should not be used within the justification of any other block/item being a redstone component.
I'd argue that that also holds for the observer, since you could otherwise argue that if using it, blocks such as sugar cane and grass were redstone components.
I think a definition of redstone component would be: An object that either DIRECTLY powers redstone (i.e. no comparators) OR has different function when powered/unpowered, OR an object that has a specific one-time behavior when powered, OR an object that has specific interactions with a redstone component, i.e. slime and minecarts
edit: added more clauses
TNT is redstone
@@siriusb2045 YES
dripleaf is redstone
Hoppers don't have a function when powered, except having a weird hitbox.
My definition would be:
Blocks that output redstone, or blocks that change their state when powered by redstone, including indirect (rails).
Edit: I forgot about slime blocks, which are redstone.
I disagree with this definition, heavily. As long as it has a unique and measurable interaction with other components, it is Redstone. Almost every block is Redstone.
We don't build doors for practicality, we build them for fun
0:40 Piston doors do have practical function, you can lock it and on top of it, cover where the key lever or button goes in a way that makes it seamless and hidden.
An iron door is pretty noticable regardless where you place it.
Even in single player it has a use. If you for example need a door taller than 3 blocks, which isnt just cosmetic considering all the big mobs.
So if you dont want to have to open loads of different gates or have a door mixed of doors and trapdoors, or be forced to destroy parts of the wall around it to move mobs through, then a piston door is practical.
damm that ending with the "at the speed of light" by dimrain was just the best thing ever
at the speed of light jumpscare
every gd player:
While defining redstone components they kinda messed up because they overlooked the importance of read operations (eg comparator using data from chest).
they directly adressed that actually at 2:20 - they pose it's a property of the comparator, not the storage device. I agree with this as a similar relationship exists between mobs and pressure plates - I wouldn't say a chicken is a redstone component, but a pressure plate can give redstone signal based on their positions. A drawing isn't an electrical component just because you can take a digital photo of it, and in the same way a chest isn't a redstone component just because you can measure it with a comparator.
the entire gd community at the end of the video :
*A T T H E S P E E D O F L I G H T*
I just think of redstone components as 3 categories.
Direct redstone component: directly interacts with redstone dust, piston, sticky piston, repeater, comparator, observer, dust, rails (except normal ones), torch, redstone block, note block, jukebox, hopper, dispenser, dropper, target, lamp, door/trapdoor/gate, trapped chest, hook, lever, plate, button, TNT, TNT minecart, hopper minecart, all 4 command block types, both skulk sensors, chisseled bookshelf, lectern and day light sensor. (Even if some are utter trash)
Indirect redstone component: have a propiety that makes them useful even though totally unrelated to redstone by itself. Walls, scaffolding, leaves, containers, sticky blocks, (normal) minecart, glazed terracotta, transparent blocks, slabs, stairs, etc.
Solid blocks: just solid blocks that don't interact with redstone in any way. Stone, bricks, wood, etc.
10:31 If people didn't start making computers out of light bulbs. (yes before transistors, people used vacuum tubes which are just modified light bulbs)
Exactly, it's like... why NOT strive to innovate, or optimise? Do things HAVE to be functionally practical in order for us to consider building them? It's exactly these sorts of people that push into the unknown that are responsible for all the amazing technology we take for granted today.
If humanity throughout history had always been like "im only doing something if I can see an immediate use for it" we would still be wandering around with wooden clubs, bonking animals on the head to take back to our fire pits for dinner.
"we would've been stuck with lightbulbs for 200 years". everyone still using lightbulbs since they were invented
Bro Bloodbath outro music, my fellow GD players know what’s up
I love geometry dash
1:30 Iron, yes, wood, no.
1:38 Trapped ones are.
1:41 No, they predate redstone and their main purpose is not redstone related
2:04 What makes something a redstone component should more do with their main purpose, jukeboxes were meant for music discs, redstone comparability was an afterthought, just like normal chests, furnaces and other inventory having tiles that aren't trapped chests and hoppers...
It's about intention of design, not how it works.
8:31 when building traps you want the redstone go be hidden.
uh well acthally, by that definiton of a redstone component, levers would only be as much of a redstone component as chests because the definition of powering something is just changing state and updating redstone next to it so that the redstone realizes it should be on 🤓
8:14 compacting redstone also increases the speed of the build as well 🥺🥺
I would define a redstone component as a block/item thats purpose is to interact with redstone, so containers arn't redstone because they're purpose is to contain items, but something like a trapped chest would be considered one because it admits a redstone signal when opened.
I still like java redstone
You gotta upload the full debates now, you can't just leave us hanging.
If containers are a redstone thing then everything is, just use an observer
I think the "redstone component" debate was just trying to say that more complicated builds use things that aren't meant for redstone. It's just force of habit that the components they are referring to aren't redstone components because it is rarely used in redstone. Common habit to see redstone dust and repeaters but less common to see barrels and leaves in redstone, they are still redstone components but just not their main purpose and not what they are known for.
10:14 Oh, so you think silicon exists in earth for the use of computers?
what is the world/server u show with all the doors?
A thing I came to realize a few years ago is that redstone is in the second layer of interactibiliy with the game. You can build structures as big as the world but they can’t do anything more. That’s layer 1. You can use redstone to actively do stuff and change the game. That’s layer 2. Then you have command blocks which can do more than anything. They can do stuff nothing else can and create marvels beyond even redstone, although they are only creative mode. That’s their 3. Then I guess mods or recoding the game would be tier 4.
I was not expecting "Still Alive (Radio Mix Clean)"
You can make an intercontinental tnt canon in survival with Redstone. It’s way better than command blocks.
lum3nd0 makes doors with the perfect balance of size, speed, and animation
tell me I'm wrong
i think a block is a redstone componenet if their main function is to be used with redstone or if it can like only work with the help of a redstone compoenet(dispensers and droppers). so like a normal wooden door's function is to open and close, so even though it does become powered by redstone to open and close it, that is not apart of its main function. but an iron door's main function is to open and close only with redstone, so the main function requires redstone, meaning it is a redstone componenet. containers like barrels or chests are not redstone components because their main function is just to store items. a trapped chest is meant to store items and send redstone outputs, meaning it directly made for the use of redstone. so i am gonna make a list of all the redstone components:
redstone dust, repeater, comparator, redstone block, redstone torch, sculk sensor, calibrated sculk sensor, iron door, iron trapdoor, piston, sticky piston, hopper, powered rail, activation rail, all types of button, lever, all pressure plates, redstone lamp, observer, daylight sensor, dispenser, dropper, tripwire hook, and i think that is it. i cant think of anything else at this moment.
Pls do more of these it is amazing
...I was surprised to hear At the Speed of Light at the end of this video.
1:34, If storage items are not part of Redstone, how does storage tech, like item filters, fit in? One cannot automatically sort items without Allays.
1:45, What about the Trapped chest?
2:51, While understandably not easy for those who are new to it, the programming part is not at all required and there's no risk of electrical shocks from experimenting in-game.
3:34, It depends on its use. I'd agree with Purplers on going with a flat wall over a long hallway, though each player has their preference on which to go with.
4:31, Beyond planning or testing for a server, I personally don't understand why one would build a secret base when there isn't a reason to hide it.
6:17, Bedrock Redstone could have just been Java Redstone from the beginning, and there would be no hassle of trying to find a design that works in that specific version.
8:13, Compacting Redstone is the natural progression of improving the designs that can and should be done and is no different than physical electronics getting smaller over time.
8:50, Until transistors, the reason we had vacuum tubes is because of light bulbs. Its "bugs" were made into a feature and are what ultimately made computers, as we know them today, possible.
10:05, Redstone has its quirks, as does real life. If those real life quirks were removed because they didn't make sense at the time they were found, we may not have the internet to discuss this topic on today.
The ending "at the speed of light" was fire🔥🔥
3:17 that would just be a comedy Chanel
Frost walker is a good redstone niche honestly. It's like a secret key is the boots your wearing. It's proximity detection but only detecting certain things, in this case a player with frost walker.
Any suggestions to get started on redstone? Should I just hop onto a creative world and toy with the mechanisms for fun? Cause redstone looks fun and fasinating I just am not sure we’re to begin
I'd say find a project you'd like to do, it can start small like "a 7 segment display" and then try to make it by yourself or search up tutorials online and try to understand what they're doing or their explanations. Also try to understand the concepts underlying each creation, rather than just remembering how the redstone is layed out, it's what I see a lot of beginners do which is bad imo. Learning the concepts will make you able to recreate it with redstone (using possibly different components too or different layouts!) whereas just learning the redstone layout is not knowledge you can apply anywhere else.
It's like saying "thank you!". The underlying concept is to show appreciation, which from there you can derive what you should say in certain situations, and even come up with original ways of saying thanks. But just learning the phrase "Thank you" won't get you anywhere really, if you don't understand the concept. Hope this wasn't a weird explanation lol
Anyhow what I used to do when I started out, was trying to make a redstone circuit by myself that I saw someone else do before. I didn't spoil myself how they did it, I just know they actually were able to, which is a good motivator to make sure what you're trying to do is possible!
With time though you'll learn about what is and what is not possible, so coming up with new original machines is less scary. (Because making an original machine without knowing if it's possible to do is pretty daunting imo.)
Hope this was helpful!
@@Sloimay definatly helpfull I’m gonna copy this to my notes to look at later thanks
First you should understand how all the different components work then use them to make something you think will be cool. If you need help I'm sure there will be tutorials on RUclips for it
@@10carries thx I know somewhat how some of them work but not every little detail ofc like know repeaters can affect the “tick speed?” Or something in relation aswell as extending redstone . I remember being able to build redstone doors usualy the just those 2 by 2 ones but I haven’t dabbled in it ina while
@@limpfall13 ok I can try to explain it to you but I'm not the most qualified for this. You know how when you right click (on Java or use button on bedrock) a repeater the stick thing on it moves. This affects the tick delay. A tick is just a unit of time for Minecraft and 20 ticks equals a second. Almost everything that you do in Minecraft has to happen on a tick like placing blocks. Lag can slow down how many ticks happen in a second on servers causing block breaking delay and things. You can right click a repeater up to 3 times and if you do it a fourth time it will reset it to the default starting value. It starts with a delay of 1 tick and each time you right click it it adds 1 tick delay up to 4 ticks. Redstone power sources like redstone blocks or torches can power redstone dust but only for a few (I think 15 or 12) blocks. If you place a repeater then it will allow power to run through redstone again but only for the same distance as the block or torch. When it gets powered through it's front it will power dust at its back after a delay of however many ticks you set it to. The dust at its back gets the same amount of power as the dust next to a redstone block or torch would get allowing you the make the redstone line longer. This is the best I can explain but if you are still confused you might have to watch a tutorial on yt.
i think that the banana man is the most best redstone thing because you need a redstone pickaxe to mine it
1 point id say they missed is that the point of redstone is to automate things in your mc world.
I personally define a Redstone component as being any block/item that includes some form of Redstone in its recipe. Or something that has a unique interaction with the previously described component.
8:32 I wonder who that fella in the chat could be, looks like a fun guy 🤔
i would consider everything that either does something when it gets powered by redstone, or that outputs a redstonesignal under some condition.
so comparators and trapped chests count, containers besides trapped chests don't. hoppers count because they can be locked, otherwise they wouldn't, and rails don't count while every special type of rail does.
Rails in a junction can change shape when powered by redstone, so (at least under that circumstance) they should also count.
@@SamJNE122 true, i forgot that.
9:31 that's pretty much how the majority of technical mods are
but don't forget that pistons were taken from an old mod
5:26 was when i realized the left most guy is actually an armorstand
i think redstone components are ones that are in the redstone tab and have obvious redstone uses (like pistons, dust, or lecterns but not doors, signs or scaffolding)
This is the way I would define a redstone component.
If any of the following is true:
1) Can power other redstone components (excluding comparator and observer).
2) Can be powered by redstone to perform an action or change in some way.
3) Can directly interact with other redstone components to change their function.
Then it is a redstone component.
This excludes most containers, because they don't interact with redstone power, and they don't directly interact with other components. It also excludes chiseled bookshelves.
However, these rules include jukeboxes and lecterns, since they can redirect redstone dust. It also includes blocks of amethyst because it directly interacts with sculk sensors.
Slime and honey blocks are a bit ambiguous with this definition, but I'd say it's fair to call them redstone components since they directly interact with how pistons and sticky pistons work.
However I still believe containers and other blocks that are directly useful together with comparators or observers deserve a spot in the redstone tab, despite not being redstone components. Just like how in real life we use things that don't interact with electricity in all kinds of devices, most namely plastic. But plastic is definitely not an electronic.
And here I was thinking I knew everything about redstone
PurpleDragonnuke said chests, furnaces and other containers are not redstone components because they do not make a redstone signal by themselves so that means that pistons and sticky pistons are not redstone components?
i love the blast processing bwomp
I have the most basic idea of a redstone component. Everything that is in the redstone creative menu is a redstone component and everything that's not there isn't
I had to laugh out loud when I heard the take about command blocks being better than redstone.
Definition of component: part or element of a larger whole, Therefore I can conclude that anything that helps with red stone functions is a red stone component. Anything that triggers or can be triggered is a red stone trigger or receiver
I like this definition as long as we treat it as contextual. If we don't, an issue arises where literally everything is a redstone component. A stone brick block is a redstone component because it can transmit power. It also can have dust placed on top. As a stone brick can serve an important role as a solid block in a redstone contraption, it could therefore be considered a component.
Are slimeblocks, honeyblocks, glazed terricotta, and obsidian redstone components? They do have unique interactons with pistons.
the old tutorial base at 4:35 caught me super off gaurd
Bruh just look at the Minecraft default inventory's catalog, and everything in redstone catalog is a redstone things
White wool?
I remember very old videos of a certain pi314 who was having fun doing 8 bit adders with other game mechanics than redstone (with water, mob AI...).
for me, we have to make a difference between a "mechanism" and "redstone". components not composed with redstone like chests, buttons or slime block are not redstone components, but mechanical components, that can be used with redstone. redstone is also part of mechanical components.
but I understand the confusion and it is pretty much adopted by everyone that mechanisms are called "redstone" things
I guess a redstone component is any item that can send a redstone signal when an event happens or recieve a redstone signal and make an event happen.
Comparaters send a restone signal based on a container.
Repeaters send a restone signal after a delay.
Pistons and Sticky Pistons extend if they recieve a redstone signal.
Jukeboxes will send a redstone signal if they have a disk.
A Hopper will stop transfering items if it recieves a redstone signal.
A Chest must have a comparater next to it in order to interact with redstone, therefore not a component.
a redstone component is everything that's in the redstone tab
A Redstone component is an item, that gives you head deck :)
I'm a disaster at Redstone, despite knowing a lot about Redstone. To this day I've yet to figure out how to actually make a double piston extender, despite knowing how to make a honey block missile that splits into 3 parts upon impact with something.
5:39 Hot take:
They didn't talk about my hot take because they know I am right. They would have been better of studying engineering.
I heard the portal radio music in the video. idk why but in my opinion its really good music.
I would say anything that counts as a redstone block is on the redstone tab of the creative inventory
Observers and Skulk Sensors are blocks that can enable any other block (and some entities) to have some form of integration in a Redstone Circuit. Target Blocks are an interesting case, since they are directly responsible for some builds to even work or reduce size of a build. I am looking forward to see redstoners using the new Copper Bulb in builds!!!!
In Minecraft, a "Redstone Component" refers to any block, item, or entity that interacts with redstone. Redstone components are designed to transmit and manipulate redstone signals.
Dumb Example:
Prior to the 1.16 version of Minecraft, there was no block with the ability to be pushed by a piston while also having a high explosion resistance against TNT. However, with the introduction of Netherite and ancient debris in the Nether update, players gained access to a block that fulfilled both criteria. Or we got the target block which makes near Redstone attach to it.
The beauty of redstone in Minecraft lies in the fact that almost every block can be utilized in some way to interact with redstone. Each block may have unique properties, behaviors, or interactions with redstone signals making it a potential component in the construction of intricate redstone contraptions.
I think every item can be used as a "Redstone Component"
+ For example: Logic gates are easier on redstone, than command blocks and redstone works with command blocks (they could be used together).
My favorite thing is the TNT tree trap from the Minecraft combat handbook.
oooh a new episode of my favorite completely original series just dropped, and they consider furnaces redstone components
As a comment from another video said “Java red stone says 1 + 1 = 3, bedrock red stone says 1 + 1 = 2, and sometimes 1 and sometimes 5
From experimenting, bedrock does have some weird location and direction favouring however most of it is hidden under the randomness. I found this by doing something that should be random on bedrock 100s of times and it actually favours a specific direction.
i would say that redstone things/blocks would be blocks that are designed with redstone in mind, for example repeaters, droppers, observers and pistons. blocks that arent designed with redstone in mind would be stuff like glass, furnaces, jukeboxes.
Redstone component: a block or entity that powers redstone or reacts to redstone power (though, reacting to redstone doesn’t count if it’s because the redstone just causes a block update, such as making water flow)
Light can be part of electric circuit if there is a sensor for it (some relays rely on it thou).
I will say, anything that will not receive redstone power to do some function and will not give redstone power as an output if no other component required is not a redstone component.
I mean, the magnetic polar itself in the HDD is not a part of electronics but the circuit in the HDD make it works as storage, as the same as any container in Minecraft.
i'd say theres a difference of redstone components and redstone blocks. slime is a redstone block. it has properties that happen to synergise well with pistons, but does not directly interact with redstone signals. a jukebox is a redstone component as of 1.20. it now directly interacts with the redstone by providing a pulse. a grass block would be a redstone block, because you can hook up and observer, and it has niche uses like sheep farms, dirt to grass factories (never made one but ive imagined it), and whatever other things. but it in no way directly interacts with redstone
To me a redstone component is any component able to create redstone strength without receiving help from other redstone components or receive redstone strength and do something with it
bro why did at the speed of light start playing at the end wtf???? my gd ass self almost died, i thought i was hallucinating💀💀💀
10:20 the coincidence of the song and what they are talking about is actually crazy LOL
i'd define a redstone component as a block or item that can directly influence the state of or be influenced by redstone dust, therefore, containers are not redstone components, but can be used due to the fact that they can influence other objects that can directly influence the state of redstone dust.
That new bookshelf block is a Redstone component
A redstone component is a component than mainly serves as an input (Something that activates when a certain event happens), a form of wiring (a thing that can connect the input and output) or a output (does a cetant action when the input is activated)
mrcube is my favorite member of the redstone corridor crew
A redstone thing is a thing found in the redstone category
10:12 Saim could be said about copper. Not Minecraft copper, IRL copper and zinc, some kind of acid or lightning.
The material wasn't designed to power lightbulbs, next thing you know humans made a thing called Minecraft and added a similar element in the game known as redstone, and now it's slowly being taken this far inside Minecraft.
REDSTONE components are the things in the redstone tab
Solid takes, fellas. Not sure if it was the philosophical nature of the discussion, or the fact that it was about redstone but I found that to be a very interesting video. 😁
9:24 since when did people make Minecraft OCs
4:09 If it's in a mountainside, large wall, if it's underground but somewhat near the surface, long corridor.
4:56 another situational door take, if it's an emergency bunker, dead. wrong. If it's a vualt, heck yeah, you gotta flex your wealth somehow!
Hot take: Redstone vehicles are easier to build in Bedrock Edition and have vastly superior features. Movable Storage, better weapons, and no BS quasi-connectivity. Mumbo can kiss my cobblestone. While his inventions were building cute little lava bridges, mine were building entire cities.
Bedrock functionality is how things were meant to be but Java is how timings are supposed to be
Heres the thing, if u were to only play bedrock the redstone is fine but if u search a redtone tutorial its almost all the time java, and java players are used to living with what they have and cry about it
Anything that you use in a redstone build that if taken out of the build would stop the build from working is a redstone component
"Maybe the real Redstone is the Friends we made along the way"
Actually, not compacting redstone could be good for decorational redstone. If it's not just a mess you can expose it.
10:00 blocks are being used in ways they aren’t meant to be used. It probably wasn’t intended for people to build giant gradients
Definition of redstone: Anything in the java redstone tab
A redstone component should have an input and an output, and it also depends on the use case.
A chest is not a redstone component. If it is read by a comparator, it is an input, but not a component. If its contents are controlled by hoppers and droppers, it an output, but still not a component. However, if its contents is read and changed by the same system, then it is a component.
Walls, leaves and bubble columns are not components on their own, but if a piston changes their properties and an observer detects that, then they are components.
Rails are components if they are used to transmit signals, but not if they are transporting villagers
A hopper can have an item input and item output, but if it isn't controlled or monitored by redstone, it isn't a *redstone* component
A piston in a monostable circuit is a component, but a piston in a door is not