Fritz and Franz Slider Jig
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- This video shows the use and construction of a Fritz and Franz jig for the slider. This enables you to safely cut small work pieces on the sliding table saw. Plans are available in the issue titled Holzidee 13 at:
www.festool.de...
The text of the article is in German but even if you do not understand that language, the plans are very easy to follow.
Steve, left you a comment on one of your other videos, but wanted to come back and comment on this one because it drove me to build one of these and I use it all the time. Thanks for this! Best, Mike
Hi Mike. Yes, the F&F is the most used jig in my shop and I had no idea how useful this would be when it was built. I am planning on doing an upgrade to this but am still waiting on some parts to be delivered. Steve
just purchased my first slider "small one' and just found your site, so awesome, thank you for sharing...
Hi Darryl. Congratulations on the new slider - enjoy. Steve
@@extremewoodworker Thanks Steve, a small second-hand "cheapish one" but in good condition, hobby stuff only "mostly" spent 3 days trueing it up and next learn to get the best from it,. Spent many years on cabinet saws, this will be a good learning curve... you have great videos.. keeep well.
Nice saw! I have a MiniMax Euro slider, and made an F&F jig some months ago. Sits on my saw all the time.
Hi Steve,
Many thanks for your video on the Fritz & Franz jig. It’s given me a lot more confidence with my slider, which on my felder bf6 compact is only 1m long but it’s opened up its versatility loads, without the need to repeatedly set up the crosscut fence ! So pleased with it I’m gonna make the Ruwi version for cutting angles. Thanks again !
Alex
Excellent F&F jig. Also, excellent video with nice, clear audio.
Holy cow! This is a *high end* machine park.
Love the jig, I'll be making one of those! :-) Thank you for the video and links...
Thanks, this jig is the most used and useful jig I have ever made. Enjoy. Steve
Love that slider saw you have.
+Steve Lyde Thanks - I am kind of partial to it as well. This is the best woodworking machinery purchase I have made and at the time, this was the entry level Martin saw.
Anybody know a site to buy Fritz and Franz jigs? I've been meaning to make them for a long time, just haven't gotten to it, wouldn't mind just purchasing if reasonable...
David Bedrosian sells the Fritz and Franz jig. Search for Bedrosian Woodworks. He doesn't have a website but he is on Instagram. Steve
Hi Steve I am unable to download plans for this jig fromFestool. Can you please provide me another link source etc.
Try doing a search for the term: "holzidee nr. 13" This will get to the full issue and the jig build starts on page 48.
What type of sliding tablesaw do you use?
It is a Martin T60 Classic (2007 model).
Hey there. As you say, it's difficult to achieve a square cut on the third cut with your small piece of stock. It strikes me that the back end of the F&F jig could be wider, such that it would cross to the other side of the blade. The blade would cut into it, but would never need to cut all the way through, because once the blade entered the jig, it would have cut through the whole of the workpiece.
The point, of course, is that if the back part of the jig (Franz?) extended to the right hand side of the blade, the workpiece could be supported all the way along its length.
I've seen other videos of the F&F jig, but haven't ever seen one designed as I've suggested. That makes me think there's a problem with my suggestion, but I can't see what it might be. Any thoughts?
Hi Paul. I think your suggestion has merit if you need to have support such as needed for making finger joints.
Cool I'm subscribe to your channel and I was researching this jig this week end!
Did you had the Martin saw for a long time, what is the model?
+Bid Budy I have had the Martin for going on 9 years. It is a model T60 Classic.
+ExtremeWoodworker Nice! It looks to be a home shop, do you have 3 phase power?
You should do a shop tour I really like your shop and tools!
It would also be nice to have a review for your Felder RL165 dust collector. Last question is why do you have two jointer/planer (Felder-Thecnomax)
Thanks!
+Bid Budy I have a digital phase converter for 3 phase power that can often be heard in the background as a hissing type noise. I tend to shy away from shop tours but it has been requested a number of times. Some day I may relent but that isn't likely anytime soon. Honestly, parts of my shop are an embarrassing disaster area which I am sure most of have.
I'll consider a review of the Felder RL160 but it would be a short review. What I like best is how clean the air is compared to my previous chip collector and cyclone. I think the reason for this is that the dirty side is all under negative pressure so there is little chance for leakage of dust out of the system. What I like least is the noise level and I do have the sound reducer.
The reason for two J/P is that I had a friend that passed a number of years ago and he had asked me to sell his equipment so his wife wouldn't have to deal with it. I had three potential buyers for the AD741 and all of them started making unreasonable demands for what was a fair price on the machine. I got tired of dealing with them and since my friends' widow was ready for all the machinery to go, I purchased it with the thought of deciding which one I would eventually sell. That was over 6 years ago and I still can't decide which one to sell so one gets use as a jointer and the other a planer.
+ExtremeWoodworker Thanks for the good info! I own a small cabinet shop in Ottawa and I just pick up a new jointer planer from Felder with the Silent cutter head last week, the reduce noise is awesome. You must find that the Martin take a lot of space in your shop especially if its a 10'? I have the Felder K700S with the 9'6'' slider and I'm presently trying to reorganize the space, but you basically need 20' just for the saw.Thanks Al
+Bid Budy Awesome! IMO, the Felder X-Roll is second to none. I checked with Felder about upgrading my AD741 to the Silent Head but it is not feasible due to the design changes they have done on the machine. My Martin has the 11' table and the total stroke requires about 25 feet as the table will clear the scoring blade completely.
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Where did you purchase the t-track you used for the jig ?
Hi David. For this jig, the t-track was purchased from Hartville Tool. I recently upgraded to a new jig and used 8020 extrusions. Steve
@@extremewoodworker can you elaborate on the 8020 - specifically what you used for the stop block in an 8020 track? appreciate it.
@@mwwdz The stop block for this version was shop made from Baltic Birch ply. The updated version used 80/20 extrusions and the stop blocks were purchased from WoodHaven.
I see that you have the Shop Fox moulder, I've been looking at buying a moulder for the past couple of weeks and can't decide between Shop Fox, Williams & Hussey or Woodmaster. Can you give me some feed back.
Thank you in advance!
Hi Bid Budy, I looked closely at the Shop Fox and W&H molders at the IWF years ago. I really wanted the W&H proven design and built in the US but it was nearly 3 times the price. I was willing to spend more for the W&H but not 3X more. Both machines had virtually identical features. I spoke with several cabinet shop owners at the show that had both makes and the Shop Fox was recommended more than the W&H. Most of them had several machines setup for different operations. I opted for the ShopFox based on those recommendations and have no regrets. It is a really nice machine for the money. I didn't consider the Woodmaster as it was very similar to a Foley/Belsaw I had years earlier and sold.
I did have a hidden shipping damage issue which Shop Fox took care of promptly. IMO, the weak point of the ShopFox is the motor attachment hinge which is stitch welded to the sheet metal cabinet. This was completely torn away when I opened the base to remove the shipping bracket. The fit and finish (including bolt holes that actually line up) of the machine was superior totally unlike my previous experiences with Grizzly and US made Delta machinery. I have used the molder to make crown molding for a house remodel and it has paid for itself in that effort alone. I ran 12' boards and experienced about 3" of snipe on each end. My only regret is purchasing the elliptical jig which has been hanging on the wall for almost 8 years unused.
Hope this helps, Steve
+ExtremeWoodworker Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately I can't read all your comment because I guess RUclips only allow certain amount of characters. What din't you like about your Belsaw? Do you do lots of molding and do you do it in one pass? You should post a video about it if you can.
Thanks
Bid Budy Where did the reply stop as I can see the entire text written. I could repost what you can't see. The Belsaw had a single profile knife with 2 counterbalances for the other knife slots and swapping wasn't the fastest thing to do. I don't do lots of face molding and use the shaper a lot more. Using the molder is done all in a single pass. I will put this on the video wish list.
+ExtremeWoodworker That is strange now I can read the full comment! I've seen in your other video that you have a awesome shaper but would you do some 4 1/2 crown on it? Do you have lots of sanding to do on your mounding when they come out of your moulder?
Thanks Al
Al, My shaper has an under the nut spindle capacity just under 4" so it will not accept a cutter head that large. Sanding molding off the Shopfox is about the same as coming out of the planer but the profile makes it harder. I use the Festool LS130 linear sander to sand the ogee portion and a dowel wit 3M Stick it paper for the cove.
Steve
That link is in German. 🥴